Re: CSRaw Honey???? have a heart!
Yes, I love Tropical Traditions and their items and the lipbalms are on Sale until Sunday, 10 for ten dollars as well as their raw honey and raw organic flax seeds. Best membership I ever bought in any company. I also have their Chi machine and it keeps me going after I ride all day because of my job. Bonnie from New Hampshire - Original Message - From: Pat To: silver list Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 11:51 PM Subject: Re: CSRaw Honey have a heart! I'll have to try their products. So far by far the best lip balm sticks I've found are made by Tropical Tradtions...citrus or the plain which has a sort of honey flavor. I tried Burt's Bees and absolutely hate it because of the flavor. Pat (www.honeygardens.com). To these people, making raw honey and honey related products is not just a business, it is a way of life.They have worked tirelessly to apply organic methods to bee keeping, and the results are the best tasting raw honey we have ever tasted, and a number of wonderful honey related products. Look around their website, it is full of great honey information. Their products are sold in many organic food stores so you may have encountered them. If not, you can order them from the website. We highly recommend the propolis salve and spray. The salve makes the best lip balm ever, and the spray can be used for many purposes, including antiseptic. We also use all the other products, including the actual raw honey. If you order honey, I advise not ordering anything less than a five pound jar. The honey seems to get harder when it crystallizes in the smaller jars and is just not as wonderful as it is in the five pounder or the larger sizes. -- Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.
Re: CSKnot
I must be tired. I meant to write from a few hundred THOUSAND cycles . . . The company has been through three models by now. As I wrote some time back, they seem intent on staying in business and making continuous upgrades, a practice known in Japan as kaizen. It's the mark of leading companies . . . On Friday, May 25, 2007, at 08:55 Asia/Tokyo, Jonathan B. Britten wrote: R.e. magnetic pulsers: SOTA instruments has greatly upgraded their unit's capacitor, from a few hundred cycles to over 30 million. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSConcentration?....ppm?
At 0 deg C or 32 Deg F water isn't water any more. Ode At 12:52 PM 5/24/2007 -0500, you wrote: Which is colder, -40 degrees C, or -40 degrees F? Water is a special case. Dan -Original Message- From: CWFugitt [mailto:c_wa...@earthlink.net] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 12:34 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSConcentration?ppm? Evening Marshall, At 10:07 AM 5/24/2007, you wrote: It is numerically correct. Actually it is mg/kg, but since a kilogram of water is a liter, then the equation holds. Thanks for explaining all this. Of course you can for water. The DEFINITION of a liter is 1000 grams of water. Thus from the definition there are 1,000,000 micrograms in a liter. So, ... a Liter is a unit of weight? I thought it was a unit of volume? Both I guess. That is correct, ppm for something is weight/weight, IE for water it is1 mg/kg of water which equals 1 mg/liter of water. Ok maybe I should accept this. I am used to working with weights that have a specific value, always, every day. I suppose this water standard means relatively pure water. Low, very low, EC. I think some water, especially the mineral water in TX, CA, and Nevada would mess up the weight of one liter by some small percent. It is for the English system. But in the metric system when dealing with water, volume and weight are interchangeable at STP provided you know the equalities. I understand that water should have a standard. I don't have any of the mineral water to weigh. Oh well... I hope to explain a few things that may be of value to the ones that don't normally work with small units in my next message. As always, . correct me when I am wrong. Thanks again, Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/817 - Release Date: 5/24/2007 4:01 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/817 - Release Date: 5/24/2007 4:01 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/817 - Release Date: 5/24/2007 4:01 PM
Re: Re: CSRaw Honey???? have a heart!
2000 years From: Kirsteen Wright kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com Date: 2007/05/24 Thu PM 03:58:12 EST To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRaw Honey have a heart! How long will honey keep for? Kirsteen Chaos, confusion, disorder - my work here is done TJ Conservative Libertarian American!! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSUnits and Unit Conversion
Many units exist, some of which most of us have never used or heard about. Some are historical and go back hundreds of years, maybe thousands of years. I found this file 15 or more years ago. I have added a few things and formatted it in blocks, and alphabetical order. If you have only a slight interest in Units, I urge you to add this file to your collection. If you have no interest in units, you still need to scan it to see these units. ( A bit of History at your fingertips ) http://www.fugitt.com/files/convert.txt While this is not a scientific file, most of the units are correct. And most are converted to units you will recognize in the second columns. Minor errors exist, but I did not make them. As I scanned the list this AM, I noticed the dimensions of the ACRE are wrong, as are 100% of the definitions when referencing a square acre. I think there are close to 500 units in the file. It is ASCII TXT. After I put it on the website, my browser loaded it in word pad. It looks much better in a Plain Jane ASCII editor like Qedit with yellow text on black background. Make it any color you like but try not to make it proportional spacing as that will misalign the columns You could read it into a database or spreadsheet, then format it nicely if desired. Tell me you knew all those units and I will buy your lunch. Wayne A classical file of Units and Units Conversion http://www.fugitt.com/files/convert.txt === -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSFw: Byron Richards To Be on Jonathan Emord's Radio Show Saturday 2 PM Pacific Time re Dire Need to Amend S.1082/HR1561
- Original Message - From: IAHF.COM To: p...@zoomnet.net Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 3:21 PM Subject: Byron Richards To Be on Jonathan Emord's Radio Show Saturday 2 PM Pacific Time re Dire Need to Amend S.1082/HR1561 Attorney Jonathan Emord.John Hammell With Byron Richards DC Book Expo IAHF List: Please leave a note to yourself to go to http://www.talkstarradio.com/hosts/emordpage.htm on Saturday at 2 PM Pacific time to tune in Attorney Jonathan Emord's radio show. His guest will be Byron Richards, Certified Clinical Nutritionist, author of Fight For Your Health- Exposing FDA's Betrayal of America and a regular columnist on News With Views on Health Freedom issues. If you haven't already read Richard's alerts about S.1082/HR 1561- see his most recent one here: http://www.newswithviews.com/Richards/byron31.htm Emord has done more to defend your access to dietary supplements than any attorney in the world and you can trust him when he tells you we MUST amend S.1082/HR 1561 or health freedom will be totally destroyed. You can see transcripts of his legal victories over the FDA on his website at http://www.emord.com They'll be discussing The FDA Prescription Drug User Fee Act of 2007 (S.1082/HR 1561) with specific emphasis on how this must pass legislation WILL TORPEDO DSHEA (Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act), unless we can get an AMENDMENT into it to specifically protect dietary supplements. NSF ONCE AGAIN ATTEMPTING TO HIJACK HEALTH FREEDOM MOVEMENT WITH DISINFO RE CAM GUIDANCE DOC With the so called Natural Solutions Foundation once again attempting to DISTRACT the grass roots by misdirecting people to write to the unelected bureaucrats at FDA about the CAM Guidance Document, its VERY IMPORTANT that all of you actively REACH OUT to more people to urge them to tune in this all important radio show so that they can truly UNDERSTAND whats going on, and what to do about it!! Especially urge health food stores to tune in, and to play it loud enough for customers in their stores to hear the broadcast! See specific instructions below on what to do, and get them into every health food store in your area! NSF is a controlled opposition group operating inside the health freedom movement. IAHF and Allied groups won't give them the time of day because they're actively misleading the public by misdirecting people into dead ends. Once again: we have ZERO LEVERAGE over the unelected bureaucrats at the FDA. You can send them comments til you're blue in the face and they'll just IGNORE them all, but FDA cannot make law, only Congress can! People who waste their time sending comments to FDA about the CAM Guidance Document are playing right into FDA's hands, because when they do that and FAIL to put ALL their energy into DEFENDING DSHEA by working to get an amendment into S.1082/HR 1561 to specifically protect dietary supplements, they create the situation where FDA can attack us the way they say they WANT TO in the CAM Guidance Document. Hopefully this painfully obvious truth will sink into enough people's brains that more of you can help IAHF and Allied Groups to COUNTER NSF's Disinformation Campaign which is intended to DESTROY health freedom. Never forward an enemies campaign. If you know anyone who is receiving NSF's so called alerts, do us a favor and urge that person to unsubscribe and to stop forwarding garbage which undermines our movement. So the FDA has extended their Comments Period on CAM Guidance Document? My response: So WHAT??? Its IRRELEVANT! THE REAL ISSUE IS TO DEFEND DSHEA BY GETTING AN AMENDMENT INTO S.1082/HR 1561 Keep in mind here that this bill MUST PASS congress before August recess or else the Prescription Drug User Fee Act will expire and they're not going to let that happen, so we MUST get our amendment in, and as the summer wears on, it gets HARDER and HARDER to rally the grass roots! Thats why NSF's so called alert is so reprehensible, and all of us must work together to overcome their efforts to destroy health freedom. WHAT YOU MUST DO: 1. Read this alert http://www.newswithviews.com/Richards/byron31.htm 2. At the end of it you'll find this form letter, please send it in to your Senators and Congressman: (hypertext links shown below don't work, go to the News With Views article to read them) Changes in Proposed Bills Proposed amendment to S 1082 and HR 1561: The bills are hereby amended to prohibit the Foundation or Institute from evaluating the health benefit or efficacy of foods, dietary ingredients, and dietary supplements and to limit review of foods, dietary ingredients and dietary supplements to a determination of whether they are safe. In assessing whether dietary ingredients and dietary supplements are safe, the Foundation or Institute shall not compare product risks with health benefits or efficacy. Instead, the Foundation or Institute shall determine whether the product presents a significant risk of illness or injury under conditions of use
CSRe: Raw Honey???? have a heart!
Just thirty minutes south of us on route 7 in the little town of Ferrisburg, Vt, is a relatively unknown treasure known as the Honey Gardens (www.honeygardens.com). To these people, making raw honey and honey related products is not just a business, it is a way of life.They have worked tirelessly to apply organic methods to bee keeping, and the results are the best tasting raw honey we have ever tasted, and a number of wonderful honey related products. Look around their website, it is full of great honey information. Very cool! Thanks for the link... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Catfish Fins, How Bad can they be ?
Hi Wayne - Is he taking mega doses of vitC - like 10K 3X/day until he gets the runs, then back off a bit. It is much better to take less, more often... Say 1-2 Grams every hour, all day long... but obviously, this isn't nearly as convenient or easy. Taking larger amounts won't hurt anything, but according to some, a lot of it will be wasted (ie, just because you don't experience the runs doesn't mean your body is absorbing/utilizing all of it)... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: Raw Honey???? have a heart!
Seeing only this title gave me a chill: Raw Honey??? No such thing as Raw Honey exists. Sure it does - just like raw milk vs. non-raw. Most processors heat their honey to 140+ degrees. This honey is not raw. Honey that is *not* heated beyond normal temperature ranges for the area in which it is produced *is* *raw*. Honey is Honey, Only true in the very limited, strict sense that honey that is cut with water/corn syrup is not truly 'honey' anymore. But this is very misleading, when the average person believes that 'Sue-Bee' honey they buy at Publix is 'honey'. and it is to be used straight from the bee, Yes, this is the desired form to use - but most honey sold today does not fit into this category. When we extracted honey from our bees (we used to have some 4 to 6 beehives, each good for some 40.000 of our little friends in prosperous times of rain and flowers) we would not even allow a drop of water to mix with our product -the honey-; in that case the broth would be considered of unworthey quality, which it is. Then you are to be commended... but your comments above ignore the reality that is the world today... So let us not talk of p u r e honey or r a w honey, it sounds a bit ignorant. Actually, your comments are what sound ignorant (no offense - I agree in a purely philosophical sense with everything you have said). processed honey does not have the right to be called honey anymore. Again, while technically true, this statement ignores reality. Charles -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSConcentration?....ppm?
A liter is one cubic decimeter of anything. One cubic decimeter of water is equal to one deciliter of water, and contains 1000 ml of water. One mililiter of DISTILLED water weights one milligram. A liter is a unit of volume. Carlos From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSConcentration?ppm? Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 06:53:40 -0400 At 0 deg C or 32 Deg F water isn't water any more. Ode At 12:52 PM 5/24/2007 -0500, you wrote: Which is colder, -40 degrees C, or -40 degrees F? Water is a special case. Dan -Original Message- From: CWFugitt [mailto:c_wa...@earthlink.net] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 12:34 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSConcentration?ppm? Evening Marshall, At 10:07 AM 5/24/2007, you wrote: It is numerically correct. Actually it is mg/kg, but since a kilogram of water is a liter, then the equation holds. Thanks for explaining all this. Of course you can for water. The DEFINITION of a liter is 1000 grams of water. Thus from the definition there are 1,000,000 micrograms in a liter. So, ... a Liter is a unit of weight? I thought it was a unit of volume? Both I guess. That is correct, ppm for something is weight/weight, IE for water it is1 mg/kg of water which equals 1 mg/liter of water. Ok maybe I should accept this. I am used to working with weights that have a specific value, always, every day. I suppose this water standard means relatively pure water. Low, very low, EC. I think some water, especially the mineral water in TX, CA, and Nevada would mess up the weight of one liter by some small percent. It is for the English system. But in the metric system when dealing with water, volume and weight are interchangeable at STP provided you know the equalities. I understand that water should have a standard. I don't have any of the mineral water to weigh. Oh well... I hope to explain a few things that may be of value to the ones that don't normally work with small units in my next message. As always, . correct me when I am wrong. Thanks again, Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/817 - Release Date: 5/24/2007 4:01 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/817 - Release Date: 5/24/2007 4:01 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/817 - Release Date: 5/24/2007 4:01 PM _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: CSConcentration?....ppm?
On Fri, 25 May 2007 08:39:27 -0400, Carlos Pérez wrote in bay13-f1191052f9eddc2d486656788...@phx.gbl: A liter is one cubic decimeter of anything. One cubic decimeter of water is equal to one deciliter of water, and contains 1000 ml of water. One mililiter of DISTILLED water weights one milligram. A liter is a unit of volume. Slight correction: One cubic decimeter of water is equal to one liter of water. One deciliter would be 1/10 of a liter or 100 ml. Heidrun Beer Workgroup for Fundamental Spiritual Research and Mental Training http://www.sgmt.at -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSdistilled water (UNCLASSIFIED)
Any sheet of plastic works and the water evaporates with sun powerdoesn't boil, doesn't need to. In fact, boiling the water in a regular distiller is a good way to foul the condenser. Ode At 10:59 PM 5/24/2007 +0200, you wrote: Medwith, Robert wrote on 5/24/2007, 5:35 PM: [snipped] Easiest Solar unit is a plastic sheet over a hole in the ground, with a rock to hold down center. A glass or jar under plastic sheet in center. That's interesting, Bob. For the plastic sheet, do you mean something similar to the thickness of a tarp? How long does it usually take for the water to boil? Thanks. Jodi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/817 - Release Date: 5/24/2007 4:01 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/817 - Release Date: 5/24/2007 4:01 PM
Re: CSConcentration?....ppm?
Absolutely right! Thanks for the correction. Carlos From: Heidrun Beer hb...@sgmt.at Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSConcentration?ppm? Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 14:46:37 +0200 On Fri, 25 May 2007 08:39:27 -0400, Carlos Pérez wrote in bay13-f1191052f9eddc2d486656788...@phx.gbl: A liter is one cubic decimeter of anything. One cubic decimeter of water is equal to one deciliter of water, and contains 1000 ml of water. One mililiter of DISTILLED water weights one milligram. A liter is a unit of volume. Slight correction: One cubic decimeter of water is equal to one liter of water. One deciliter would be 1/10 of a liter or 100 ml. Heidrun Beer Workgroup for Fundamental Spiritual Research and Mental Training http://www.sgmt.at -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
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RE: CSUnits and Unit Conversion
Greetings Wayne, acre = (210 ft x 210 ft) does not appear to be correct. (210 x 210 = 44100) The rest appear to be correct if: 1 chain = 66 feet. 1 acre = 10 sq chains 1 acre = 660 x 66 = 43560 sq ft Dan -Original Message- From: CWFugitt [mailto:c_wa...@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 6:13 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSUnits and Unit Conversion Many units exist, some of which most of us have never used or heard about. Some are historical and go back hundreds of years, maybe thousands of years. I found this file 15 or more years ago. I have added a few things and formatted it in blocks, and alphabetical order. If you have only a slight interest in Units, I urge you to add this file to your collection. If you have no interest in units, you still need to scan it to see these units. ( A bit of History at your fingertips ) http://www.fugitt.com/files/convert.txt While this is not a scientific file, most of the units are correct. And most are converted to units you will recognize in the second columns. Minor errors exist, but I did not make them. As I scanned the list this AM, I noticed the dimensions of the ACRE are wrong, as are 100% of the definitions when referencing a square acre. I think there are close to 500 units in the file. It is ASCII TXT. After I put it on the website, my browser loaded it in word pad. It looks much better in a Plain Jane ASCII editor like Qedit with yellow text on black background. Make it any color you like but try not to make it proportional spacing as that will misalign the columns You could read it into a database or spreadsheet, then format it nicely if desired. Tell me you knew all those units and I will buy your lunch. Wayne A classical file of Units and Units Conversion http://www.fugitt.com/files/convert.txt === -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSConcentration?....ppm?
## That might be 3.8 grams of silver retained over any given period of time in an average body weight. Normal people eliminate silver at around 98% in 48 hours, so, figure how long one would have to drink as much water that doesn't kill them in order to retain that much silver at a given PPM. If the system ISN'T normal, the critical PPM and time span would be much lower [depending on how not normal ], but probably still not possible at 20 PPM and under without getting really really really old. ..and by then, who cares what color you are? A 300 year old blue person? No big deal, Mr Krishna...just keep on dancing with Shiva, he don't care what color you are. [Krishna is often depicted in art works as being blue skinned. I don't know why.] Ode At 07:46 PM 5/24/2007 -0500, you wrote: Thanks for the input. So is the following summary accurate? For Pure water (DH2O)1ml (cc) of DH20 = 1g of mass ppm = parts per million usually stated as unit mass/unit mass Since pure water is 1g:1ml we can state CS/EIS as a concentration of mass/unit volume For 10 ppm CS/EIS 1ml DH2O has 1 ug of Silver in it or 10mg silver per liter. For 20 ppm CS/EIS 1ml DH2O has 2 ug of Silver in it or 20mg silver per liter. There are 1000ug in a mg and 1000mg in a gram Therefore, if it estimated that it would take 3800mg of silver/day to cause argyria you would have to drink: 380,000 ml or 12,667 ounces or 99 gallons of 10ppm CS/EIS to risk it. OR 190,000 ml or 6,334 ounces or 49.5 gallons of 20ppm CS/EIS to risk it. On 5/23/07, Silver Smith mailto:cag@gmail.comcag@gmail.com wrote: I was reading some info on Argyria and came across the following statement, The amount of silver required to develop Argyria is estimated to be 3.8 grams per day I have two questions about that statement. 1. If you are drinking a 10ppm concentration of CS/EIS, how many ounces or milliliters (ml) of the 10ppm CS/EIS would you have to drink to reach the 3.8 grams for a day. 2. How many days would you need to drink it to get it (argyria)? I need a bit of help fully understanding what we mean in terms of concentration when we use ppm as the unit of concentration. I understand that ppm = parts per million. I assume that would be parts of silver per some unit of volume (water)? In the clinical lab we measure concentration of analytes in the blood in mg/dl or ug/dl..etc. So would ppm be microgram (ug-1millionth of a gram) per some volume of water? What would the volume of water be? Thanks, SS No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/817 - Release Date: 5/24/2007 4:01 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/817 - Release Date: 5/24/2007 4:01 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSConcentration?....ppm?
Many units in the English system have practical (useful) units, that are mostly divisible by two. Important when you don't have a calculator. Dan -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 2:48 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSConcentration?ppm? Dan Nave wrote: Which is colder, -40 degrees C, or -40 degrees F? They are equal, that is the crossover temperature of the two scales. Now, which is heavier, an ounce of feathers or an ounce of gold. How about a pound of feathers and a pound of gold. No wonder I like the metric system better. Marshall Water is a special case. Dan -Original Message- From: CWFugitt [mailto:c_wa...@earthlink.net] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 12:34 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSConcentration?ppm? Evening Marshall, At 10:07 AM 5/24/2007, you wrote: It is numerically correct. Actually it is mg/kg, but since a kilogram of water is a liter, then the equation holds. Thanks for explaining all this. Of course you can for water. The DEFINITION of a liter is 1000 grams of water. Thus from the definition there are 1,000,000 micrograms in a liter. So, ... a Liter is a unit of weight? I thought it was a unit of volume? Both I guess. That is correct, ppm for something is weight/weight, IE for water it is1 mg/kg of water which equals 1 mg/liter of water. Ok maybe I should accept this. I am used to working with weights that have a specific value, always, every day. I suppose this water standard means relatively pure water. Low, very low, EC. I think some water, especially the mineral water in TX, CA, and Nevada would mess up the weight of one liter by some small percent. It is for the English system. But in the metric system when dealing with water, volume and weight are interchangeable at STP provided you know the equalities. I understand that water should have a standard. I don't have any of the mineral water to weigh. Oh well... I hope to explain a few things that may be of value to the ones that don't normally work with small units in my next message. As always, . correct me when I am wrong. Thanks again, Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSFw: Byron Richards To Be on Jonathan Emord's Radio Show Saturday 2 PM Pacific Time re Dire Need to Amend S.1082/HR1561
Wouldn't this amendment also prevent anyone from looking into things like GM foods too? The problem with things like this is there is a 6 page rant but very little in the way of sober information and analysis about the facts of the regulations and their possible effects. Dan -Original Message- From: Paula Perry [mailto:p...@zoomnet.net] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 6:20 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSFw: Byron Richards To Be on Jonathan Emord's Radio Show Saturday 2 PM Pacific Time re Dire Need to Amend S.1082/HR1561 - Original Message - From: IAHF.COM To: p...@zoomnet.net Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 3:21 PM Subject: Byron Richards To Be on Jonathan Emord's Radio Show Saturday 2 PM Pacific Time re Dire Need to Amend S.1082/HR1561 Attorney Jonathan Emord.John Hammell With Byron Richards DC Book Expo IAHF List: Please leave a note to yourself to go to http://www.talkstarradio.com/hosts/emordpage.htm on Saturday at 2 PM Pacific time to tune in Attorney Jonathan Emord's radio show. His guest will be Byron Richards, Certified Clinical Nutritionist, author of Fight For Your Health- Exposing FDA's Betrayal of America and a regular columnist on News With Views on Health Freedom issues. If you haven't already read Richard's alerts about S.1082/HR 1561- see his most recent one here: http://www.newswithviews.com/Richards/byron31.htm Emord has done more to defend your access to dietary supplements than any attorney in the world and you can trust him when he tells you we MUST amend S.1082/HR 1561 or health freedom will be totally destroyed. You can see transcripts of his legal victories over the FDA on his website at http://www.emord.com They'll be discussing The FDA Prescription Drug User Fee Act of 2007 (S.1082/HR 1561) with specific emphasis on how this must pass legislation WILL TORPEDO DSHEA (Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act), unless we can get an AMENDMENT into it to specifically protect dietary supplements. NSF ONCE AGAIN ATTEMPTING TO HIJACK HEALTH FREEDOM MOVEMENT WITH DISINFO RE CAM GUIDANCE DOC With the so called Natural Solutions Foundation once again attempting to DISTRACT the grass roots by misdirecting people to write to the unelected bureaucrats at FDA about the CAM Guidance Document, its VERY IMPORTANT that all of you actively REACH OUT to more people to urge them to tune in this all important radio show so that they can truly UNDERSTAND whats going on, and what to do about it!! Especially urge health food stores to tune in, and to play it loud enough for customers in their stores to hear the broadcast! See specific instructions below on what to do, and get them into every health food store in your area! NSF is a controlled opposition group operating inside the health freedom movement. IAHF and Allied groups won't give them the time of day because they're actively misleading the public by misdirecting people into dead ends. Once again: we have ZERO LEVERAGE over the unelected bureaucrats at the FDA. You can send them comments til you're blue in the face and they'll just IGNORE them all, but FDA cannot make law, only Congress can! People who waste their time sending comments to FDA about the CAM Guidance Document are playing right into FDA's hands, because when they do that and FAIL to put ALL their energy into DEFENDING DSHEA by working to get an amendment into S.1082/HR 1561 to specifically protect dietary supplements, they create the situation where FDA can attack us the way they say they WANT TO in the CAM Guidance Document. Hopefully this painfully obvious truth will sink into enough people's brains that more of you can help IAHF and Allied Groups to COUNTER NSF's Disinformation Campaign which is intended to DESTROY health freedom. Never forward an enemies campaign. If you know anyone who is receiving NSF's so called alerts, do us a favor and urge that person to unsubscribe and to stop forwarding garbage which undermines our movement. So the FDA has extended their Comments Period on CAM Guidance Document? My response: So WHAT??? Its IRRELEVANT! THE REAL ISSUE IS TO DEFEND DSHEA BY GETTING AN AMENDMENT INTO S.1082/HR 1561 Keep in mind here that this bill MUST PASS congress before August recess or else the Prescription Drug User Fee Act will expire and they're not going to let that happen, so we MUST get our amendment in, and as the summer wears on, it gets HARDER and HARDER to rally the grass roots! Thats why NSF's so called alert is so reprehensible, and all of us must work together to overcome their efforts to destroy health freedom. WHAT YOU MUST DO: 1. Read this alert http://www.newswithviews.com/Richards/byron31.htm 2. At the end of it you'll find this form letter, please send it in to your Senators and Congressman: (hypertext links shown below don't work, go to the News With Views article to read them) Changes in Proposed Bills Proposed amendment to S 1082 and HR 1561: The bills are hereby amended to prohibit the Foundation or Institute
CSnebulizing with CS
Some of you may have seen this before, but as I was researching nebulizing with CS I thought you would ifnd it interesting Wendy canada http://testimonials.silvermedicine.org/content/lung-infection-oxygen-neb ulizer.html snip from this websiteNote: This testimonial is reported by the trustee of the silvermedicine.org website. This experiment was conducted lawfully by a co-researcher conducting personal scientific research. The information provided below documents a test experiment that requires a good deal of knowledge, experience, and quick access to qualified medical personnel. Lung Infection: No Immune System Response From: Jason R. Eaton Date: 02/01/01 Contact: Email Greetings! Monday morning, I had a shocking thing happen. While sitting in the middle of an algebra lecture ( yes, at 30 years old I'm actually back in school ) I experienced a severe pain behind my lower ribcage. For the next several hours the pain increased, and as the pain increased, my capacity for breathing diminished. In the middle of my database class later that evening, I had to get up and leave. I could not actually make it out to the parked car walking ( where my partner was waiting, I had phoned her ). I crawled the rest of the way to the car. My partner began to insist that she take me to the hospital ( after all we've been through, you'd think... ). I literally could not breath. Between half breaths I told her that it seemed my lower lobes were filling up with either fluid or mucus, and that if I was admitted to the hospital, they would most likely insert chest tubes and quite possibly put me on a vent. I told her not only would I be at increased risk for everything else in that hospital, but that the treatment would cause at least three further problems to deal with. I told her absolutely not. I told her dying this way wasn't the worst way to go. Upon arriving home, I discovered to my shock that I was not running a temperature. THAT scared me. However, I was recovering from my initial subconscious reaction of fear, and began to design my own treatment protocol. I ingested six ounces of colloidal silver. However, I was not near confident that this would be effective, due to the fact that I believe the CS must be able to reach the site of the infection. I ingested two home-made herbal blends with zero effect. I ingested 1000 mg of vitamin C and began taking doses of zinc. My breathing capacity was at a level I'd never experienced before. My lung span was reduced by more than 3/4. I had no coughing reaction whatsoever, no reduction in appetite and no temperature. My oxygen bottle, which I use for my CS nebulizer, was empty. I waited until Tuesday afternoon whereby I gathered enough strength to drive to the local welding supply store. Through fear, I almost started clay pack treatments, but I'd been looking forward to trying out the nebulizer on an actual illness. Lifting the empty oxygen bottle was like trying to lift about 50 pounds. I had to stop several times to catch my breath in and out of the shop. If I stayed perfectly still for long enough, I could catch my breath and feel relatively good. Any movement weakened my body incredibly. I could speak maybe one sentance at a time before having to stop and just breath. Walking and talking was out of the question. Tuesday night, I used the nebulizer for the first time, and incorrectly ( I figured this out the next day ). It is quite different using this nebulizer on healthy lungs compared to hurting lungs. Nothing I had done even touched my condition. My temperature remained normal. At this point, I was convinced that I had either a very severe case of bronchitis or bronchial pnemonia. I know QUITE a few tricks on triggering the body into action, including herbal baths, steam baths, ect. Nothing was making any difference to my core condition. Wednesday early afternoon, I figured out that I must get the atomized particles to the lung tissues that were in trouble. This, I assure you, was quite painful. I used the nebulizer, breath after breath, for about three minutes. The effect was almost instantaneous and very dramatic. At the time, I wasn't quite what you'd call coherent so my sense of time might have been a bit off. At any rate, within moments, the mucus in my lungs began to break up. I won't describe the coughing fits that followed. They lasted for about eight minutes ( a guess ). When I was done, I was left shaking, drenched with sweat, purple faced, and burning up. I didn't have the strength to do another treatment that night. The following morning ( was that this morning? wow ), upon waking up ( a very slow process in my current condition ) I repeated the treatment. This time, I nebulized for about three minutes. About six minutes later, I began once again with the collodial silver induced coughing, although this time, it was not severe. I have regained my lung capacity and about half of my strength. I've continued the treatment all today,
Re: CSRaw Honey???? have a heart!
Jonathan B. Britten wrote: In Japan, as I write, there's a big scandal about honey, both domestic and imported. Some mfgrs. have been adding sweeteners to their pure honey had at last were found out.Lots of pure honey on sale at half price in the groceries these days! I am not sure how the scam was exposed. Turns out that telling if sugar has been added to honey is pretty simple. Sugar molecules have handedness, and will rotate light by a certain amount right or left depending on the sugar and the handedness of the molecule. If I remember right the handedness of pure honey is one direction, unless made from sucrose, in which it is then the other direction. So a simple test with polarized light can determine if it has been adulterated this way, and if so, how much. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSdistilled water (UNCLASSIFIED)
I was thinking about getting a water distiller, so wondering if you are saying this is not a good thing?? I have to get some kind of a water filter, as our water is contaminated. I am buying now. Thanks, Leslie - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 8:22 AM Subject: RE: CSdistilled water (UNCLASSIFIED) Any sheet of plastic works and the water evaporates with sun powerdoesn't boil, doesn't need to. In fact, boiling the water in a regular distiller is a good way to foul the condenser. Ode At 10:59 PM 5/24/2007 +0200, you wrote: Medwith, Robert wrote on 5/24/2007, 5:35 PM: [snipped] Easiest Solar unit is a plastic sheet over a hole in the ground, with a rock to hold down center. A glass or jar under plastic sheet in center. That's interesting, Bob. For the plastic sheet, do you mean something similar to the thickness of a tarp? How long does it usually take for the water to boil? Thanks. Jodi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/817 - Release Date: 5/24/2007 4:01 PM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.8.0/817 - Release Date: 5/24/2007 4:01 PM
Re: CSKrishna
On May 25, 2007, at 9:05 AM, Ode Coyote wrote: ..and by then, who cares what color you are? A 300 year old blue person? No big deal, Mr Krishna...just keep on dancing with Shiva, he don't care what color you are. [Krishna is often depicted in art works as being blue skinned. I don't know why.] Ode Well, I think according to the tradition, there were many colors of people created, and blue was one. Not shades of brown, mind you, but think rainbow colors, maybe pastel versions. From Wikipedia: The Brahma Samhita describes Krishna's complexion as being tinged with the hue of blue clouds,[2] and he is often depicted in paintings with blue or dark-blue skin. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS1 ppm, How big it is ( or How big is it )
Most people that have never worked with small quantities have never seen 1 ppm of anything. They can only guess at the actual quantity that 1 ppm represents. With some materials, you will never see 1 ppm or even 5 or 10. Others you can see, vividly. That is what I want to show you, how to make 1 ppm, or maybe 3, and actually see it. This has little to do with the units discussion or with CS, but it will show you how small 1 ppm or 3 ppm actually is. Recap of units and the ratio of mg to grains 1 pound = 453.5924 grams = 453 592.37 milligrams 1 pound = 7 000 grains 1 grain = 64.7989 mg ( usually considered and used as 65 ) The grain is the unit we will be using. or rather the .1 grain .1 grain = 6.4708 mg ( usually used as 6.5 mg per .1 grain ) Typically, half this amount, 1/2 of .1 grain = .05 grain ( is the smallest resolution the eye can manage ) .05 grain is equal to 3.25 mg or 3.25 ppm weight. This is only true when using the one liter standard. 1 ppm of a 500 gallon tank is different, as are other volumes and weights. The lead mass can only be compared to the 1 ppm in the one liter volume. Easy Experiment Use a small piece of paper. Approx 1.5 inches by 2.0 inches With a good grain scale, this can be weighed. It could be also be weighed with a mg scale but few have those other than labs. Now. Write you name on the paper using a common lead pencil. A # 2 wooden pencil would be best. Point should be medium sharp, not dull or not really sharp as just out of a good quality pencil sharpener. Of course you can use a mechanical pencil with small lead or a carpenter pencil, but the value of the weight will be different. You can now weigh the amount of lead that is required to write your name. If it is a double or triple name, you might have 1 ppm of lead ( or equivalent weight ) in one part of your name. In 3 names, maybe 3 to 4 ppm of weight. If you have a long complex name, the total lead may be as high as 4 or 5 mg. Again, the lead hardness and width can effect this. This is about as close as you can get to see 1 ppm, 3 ppm or maybe 5 ppm. After doing it a few times, you would become more skilled at weighing your name. Good balance or beam scales can do this. A digital grain or mg scale should do even better, but only if it is good quality and high dollar. The cheap ones are worthless for this and most other tasks that require small measurements under 20 to 50 mg. I have done this a number of times over the years. The result can be relatively consistent. Eliminate any air movement, fans, air conditioners, ect. They can move and disturb the beam dampening. For comparison, the grain is about 65 times larger than the mg. You might have fun weighing fleas, ticks, house flies, and chiggers. If you find out how many ppm they are, please tell me. Wayne
Re: CSSore throat
This is good news Ruth, and you're very welcome. Regards Dee ---Original Message--- From: ruth strackbein Date: 25/05/2007 01:13:08 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSore throat Dee and Sol, Have been to see the surgeon today. He thinks we need to investigate further about other things that may be playing into this situation before opting for surgery. See message to Kirsten. Thanks for your concern and input. ruth From Ruth Strackbein
CSRe: CS/OT list - 25 May
Hi There to all - you may be interested in reading this article - http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9588_22-6186193.html?tag=nl.e540 Sandee Peace is easy ... it is a Mindset -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRaw Honey???? have a heart!
I read this morning that labs here use something called thin layer spectroscopy to look for the large molecules characteristic of added sugars.Article said 90% of honey sold in Japan comes from China, at wholesale about ¥500 (say, five US dollars) per kilogram. Break-even in stores is ¥800 per kilogram, so the profits are pretty small. About 20 of the stuff analyzed turns out to have been adulterated. On Saturday, May 26, 2007, at 00:11 Asia/Tokyo, Marshall Dudley wrote: Jonathan B. Britten wrote: In Japan, as I write, there's a big scandal about honey, both domestic and imported. Some mfgrs. have been adding sweeteners to their pure honey had at last were found out.Lots of pure honey on sale at half price in the groceries these days! I am not sure how the scam was exposed. Turns out that telling if sugar has been added to honey is pretty simple. Sugar molecules have handedness, and will rotate light by a certain amount right or left depending on the sugar and the handedness of the molecule. If I remember right the handedness of pure honey is one direction, unless made from sucrose, in which it is then the other direction. So a simple test with polarized light can determine if it has been adulterated this way, and if so, how much. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
