Re: CSA health question
I've been dealing with this one for awhile. I'd say from my own experience to not wear jewlery on the hands for starters. But the following stones smooth heart beat remarkably, especially the obsideon (not snowflake.) Periodite works really well though the lime green color is a little garish. There are a couple more. But several years ago I had a bout with tackicardia and layed an obsidean stone on my chest and within seconds it evened out. Both periodite and obsidean of course come from volcanic eruptions... =z= The novelist, journalist and psychologist Michael Zangari http://zangarijournalism.com - Original Message From: marmar...@bellsouth.net marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 2:00:27 AM Subject: CSA health question Hi Gang. My cousin emailed me tonight, and told me that she recently had an episode of arrythmia and rapid heartbeat -- for the better part of an entire day. She's been to a cardiologist before for this problem, and apparently isn't getting any help. Seems to me that there's a *natural* solution for this, but darned if I can remember. Any ideas? MA Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
Re: CSA health question
MA, You might want to check on magnesium. I have read about it's use in relation to what you describe. Paula - Original Message - From: marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 2:00 AM Subject: CSA health question Hi Gang. My cousin emailed me tonight, and told me that she recently had an episode of arrythmia and rapid heartbeat -- for the better part of an entire day. She's been to a cardiologist before for this problem, and apparently isn't getting any help. Seems to me that there's a *natural* solution for this, but darned if I can remember. Any ideas? MA
Re: CSA health question
On Jan 27, 2008, at 11:00 PM, marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: Hi Gang. My cousin emailed me tonight, and told me that she recently had an episode of arrythmia and rapid heartbeat -- for the better part of an entire day. She's been to a cardiologist before for this problem, and apparently isn't getting any help. Seems to me that there's a *natural* solution for this, but darned if I can remember. Any ideas? MA Here are some former posts with some suggestions- My mum has a leaky heart valve and irregular heart beat. And, just a few weeks ago, I was resigning myself to losing her. A wonderful sage/lurker (meant in a nice way) in this group told me about hawthornberry syrup. She has been taking it religiously since, within a couple of weeks she felt nearly as good as new. She also told me about polished rice bran. Michele == From: ransley rans...@atmc.net Date: February 8, 2007 7:00:20 AM PST To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSMSM heart About 5 years ago I had a problem with my heart skipping beats occasionally. .. A friend got me some MSM ... One dose and the next day and after that the heartbeat was normal.I continued on it for about a year and stopped taking it. ... Recently the skipping returned and I started on the MSM and two days later the heartbeat is back to normal. I hope this information might be helpful to someone. As a veteran taker of MSM, and as someone who has had heart palpitations, and now as a taker of fairly large doses of cayenne, I find this very interesting and can believe it. Cayenne almost totally cured my heart palpitation problem, and what little it didn't was finished by watching my potassium intake and occasionally taking potassium orotate. Cayenne is supposed to be full of sulfur compounds. I never made the connection until now. MSM would certainly be easier on the palate, but my experience says that Cayenne will do much more. Daddybob From: Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com Date: February 8, 2007 12:16:19 PM PST To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMSM I have no idea why it works, but if I take Oscillococcinum (avail in US at most drug stores) I will return to NSR (Normal Sinus Rithym) in a few min to a few hours. I got the info from the AFIB report.It is a flu remedy (still no clue) == Yes, cayenne does contain potassium, but every once in a while I can tell I need just a little bit more potassium than I'm getting from the cayenne. And I must admit, taking cayenne can be a chore. Usually the only sign I get that I need a little more potassium will be at night when I lay down. I don't take cayenne late because it is quite a stimulant. Someone may want to mention magnesium and the heart, but magnesium never phased my palpitations. Magnesium will instantly relieve me of any tightness of chest stress feelings, but I don't have those at all since I started on cayenne. I still take my magnesium though. I am presently up to a heaping half teaspoon of cayenne at least once daily and I try to do 2-3 times daily. DB -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRe
Well I am not an athlete by any means, but am a 64 year old who has always enjoyed good health. I had a bad bout (2 years) of sciatica but managed to get rid of it using CS and l-lysine, also BlockBuster All Clear. Now I am fine, but I had a period of very low energy, plus anxiety which I put down to stress. The only health problem I have faced has been constipation, which has been mostly cured with magnesium, this may have contributed to the low energy I don't know. I have been taking the whey for about three months now and have found my energy levels have improved such a lot that I didn't realize that I *had* low energy until now! I also got through without catching 'flu while all around me succumbed, and I do know it is supposed to boost immune function. All I can say is, it has worked for me. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Ernie Patai Date: 28/01/2008 01:00:48 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSRe Well I suppose if you are coming from a very bad place anything which is Better will aid in recovery. I'm a very healthy person blessed with great Genetics. So this is coming from someone who is athletic. I need the edge When it comes to performance. I have a bag of whey and I plan to experiment More because I don't want to throw it. People have to be careful what Products they buy because there are lots of fillers in them and often not Mentioned. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS maker models for home use (UNCLASSIFIED)
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE I have had 2 of the CS generators listed below, had them for years. Only difference is I use Canadian Maple Leaf coins for silver. I now hang the coins with pure silver wire, but in beginning I just did not put coins in water all the way (I still had a hole in coin to hang on jar) I make the CS by the gallon Bob _ From: marmar...@bellsouth.net [mailto:marmar...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 1:52 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCS maker models for home use -- Original message from Silvia Messmer sdmess...@cox.net: -- I'm new here and trying to learn. There are so many models of CS makers for home use. My question is this; if you didn't have a CS maker yet what would be the model you would get? I've seen directions on how to make my own but I'm so not a geek so that is not an option. Hi Silvia. I've been real happy with my Colloid Master from Synergenesis (www.wishgranted.com). MA Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE
CS(UNCLASSIFIED)
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE Subject: CSBrewing CS To all (especially new members) You can make a Controlled Current Generator with and Wall DC power supply using a Current Regulating Central Diode they come in various currents 610-1N5297 from Mouser Electronics is for 1 Mill amp You put this in line with power supply with a volt meter you can measure voltage (higher as Silver is further apart and lower as you move silver closer together). It adjust voltage to matain mill amp rating. You can use almost any DC power supply from 2 volts up to limit on the Diode. Bob Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE
Re: CSRe
Dee What strengths did you take of the supplements for sciatica? I am fighting that hard right now and it is winning. Turning over in bed at night sometimes is terribly painful from the sciatica. The shooting pains are hard to deal with. I take CS and l-lysine but don't know BlockBuster. Gentle horseback riding seems to help but figure it stretches something I can't otherwise stretch. I was trying the protocol of Brooks for arthritis someone shared but can't take MSM due to sulphur reaction. The CMO has helped wonderfully but I don't know if I have taken enough CS daily to kill the pathogens. Everything suggested so far has helped and I'm hoping maybe you have a key for the sciatica. I am regaining my mobility. Dianne - Original Message - From: Dee mailto:d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 6:45 AM Subject: RE: CSRe Well I am not an athlete by any means, but am a 64 year old who has always enjoyed good health. I had a bad bout (2 years) of sciatica but managed to get rid of it using CS and l-lysine, also BlockBuster All Clear. Now I am fine, but I had a period of very low energy, plus anxiety which I put down to stress. The only health problem I have faced has been constipation, which has been mostly cured with magnesium, this may have contributed to the low energy I don't know. I have been taking the whey for about three months now and have found my energy levels have improved such a lot that I didn't realize that I *had* low energy until now! I also got through without catching 'flu while all around me succumbed, and I do know it is supposed to boost immune function. All I can say is, it has worked for me. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Ernie Patai Date: 28/01/2008 01:00:48 To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSRe Well I suppose if you are coming from a very bad place anything which is Better will aid in recovery. I'm a very healthy person blessed with great Genetics. So this is coming from someone who is athletic. I need the edge When it comes to performance. I have a bag of whey and I plan to experiment More because I don't want to throw it. People have to be careful what Products they buy because there are lots of fillers in them and often not Mentioned. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.orghttp://silverlist.org/ To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.commailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.commailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS(UNCLASSIFIED)
Hi Bob, The current Diode solved 95% of my problems. Anyone using a DC power supply should have one. Problems as they arise now are usually a result of water, etc. Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil wrote: (UNCLASSIFIED) Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE Subject: CSBrewing CS a Current Regulating Central Diode they come in various currents 610-1N5297 from Mouser Electronics is for 1 Mill amp You put this in line with power supply with a volt meter you can measure voltage (higher as Silver is further apart and lower as you move silver closer together). It adjust voltage to matain mill amp rating. You can use almost any DC power supply from 2 volts up to limit on the Diode. Bob Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think.. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
Re: CSRe Sciatica
Hi Diane.. I suffered for years with that problem... The things that have worked for me are: TENS Unit sometimes I would wear it 24 hour at high settings DECOMPRESSION THERAPY - Last year I went through around 24 session at my chroprators office. It's a table that they strap you on to and it exerts so many pounds of pressure while pulling the disc apart... After around 10 treatment I noticed while doing my walking that I was not compensating on my right leg; and I almost felt that I could run. After finishing treatment I began seeing a physical therapist that doing yogi stretches. He also did decompression therapy using a mobile unit. I ended up purchasing my own unit. Also I had found relief with DMSO. connie _ Get a life insurance quote online. Click to compare rates and save. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2111/fc/Ioyw6iig79vrCIZYFvmj7WtZ0Mg0YbWPfeJHXdrW02gdscWGJeTqGM/
RE: [!! SPAM] Re: CSRe
Well I was absolutely crippled with it Dianne, for two years. I went to a physiotherapist but it didn't work at all, plus I had some kind of ultra sound on my back all to no avail. I seemed to find the cure when I had a bout of shingles because I was taking loads of CS for this and someone (Sol I think) suggested l-lysine. This I was taking at about 2000mgs a day plus the Blockbuster All Clear and miraculously, it went. I also found that if I overdid things and started to get pain, if I leant against a door post and bent my back inwards, this helped enormously, or, laying face down on the floor and pushing myself up until my back arched inwards. This relieved any temporary strain I had placed on my back. Hope this helps. Dee PS I also was taking B supplements and food state vit C. ---Original Message--- From: Ernie Patai Date: 28/01/2008 13:40:40 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [!! SPAM] Re: CSRe Try exercise it works wonders!!! E From: Dianne France [mailto:dianne_fra...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 5:01 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: [!! SPAM] Re: CSRe Dee What strengths did you take of the supplements for sciatica? I am fighting that hard right now and it is winning. Turning over in bed at night sometimes is terribly painful from the sciatica The shooting pains are hard to deal with. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSA health question
Sounds like she is getting worse, which is possible. She should see the cardiologist again. Or see a different cardiologist. That is nothing to fool around with. Faith G. - Original Message - From: marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 2:00 AM Subject: CSA health question Hi Gang. My cousin emailed me tonight, and told me that she recently had an episode of arrythmia and rapid heartbeat -- for the better part of an entire day. She's been to a cardiologist before for this problem, and apparently isn't getting any help. Seems to me that there's a *natural* solution for this, but darned if I can remember. Any ideas? MA
Re: CSA health question
To bring this back to list. I've learned a little jewlery making. I wire wrap stones with silver wire. Any thoughts out there on wearing silver (not stearling) jewlery?) =z= The novelist, journalist and psychologist Michael Zangari http://zangarijournalism.com - Original Message From: Michael Zangari truez2...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 3:34:18 AM Subject: Re: CSA health question I've been dealing with this one for awhile. I'd say from my own experience to not wear jewlery on the hands for starters. But the following stones smooth heart beat remarkably, especially the obsideon (not snowflake.) Periodite works really well though the lime green color is a little garish. There are a couple more. But several years ago I had a bout with tackicardia and layed an obsidean stone on my chest and within seconds it evened out. Both periodite and obsidean of course come from volcanic eruptions... =z= The novelist, journalist and psychologist Michael Zangari http://zangarijournalism.com - Original Message From: marmar...@bellsouth.net marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 2:00:27 AM Subject: CSA health question Hi Gang. My cousin emailed me tonight, and told me that she recently had an episode of arrythmia and rapid heartbeat -- for the better part of an entire day. She's been to a cardiologist before for this problem, and apparently isn't getting any help. Seems to me that there's a *natural* solution for this, but darned if I can remember. Any ideas? MA Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: CSRe
About Sciatica http://www.spineuniverse.com/displayarticle.php/sciatica-291.html - Original Message - From: Dianne France To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 8:00 AM Subject: Re: CSRe Dee What strengths did you take of the supplements for sciatica? I am fighting that hard right now and it is winning. Turning over in bed at night sometimes is terribly painful from the sciatica. The shooting pains are hard to deal with. I take CS and l-lysine but don't know BlockBuster. Gentle horseback riding seems to help but figure it stretches something I can't otherwise stretch. I was trying the protocol of Brooks for arthritis someone shared but can't take MSM due to sulphur reaction. The CMO has helped wonderfully but I don't know if I have taken enough CS daily to kill the pathogens. Everything suggested so far has helped and I'm hoping maybe you have a key for the sciatica. I am regaining my mobility. Dianne
Re: CS Cold and hard
That statement makes no sense to me. Drugs are synthetic man made chemicals that always carry some level of toxicity that is not found in natural products and supplements. Risk factors are thousands fold on the side of drugs, including those sold over the counter. Saying you want MORE regulation, government restrictions, and control of health options and products. Unbelievable! ## Untrue. Most of the Pharmaceuticals are identical to the active ingredients in natural herbs, some not and more and more are being custom designed to do a specific job as the art of bio-chemistry develops. Many many of them were first derivatives and purified essences and many still are. There are entire farm industries that supply feed stock, vats and vats of fungi and algae. The issue is just not black and white as natural substances quite often have really nasty toxins along with the beneficial substances and part of THAT healing art is about processing the herbs to limit them. I don't think most people see Pharm and the FDA as evil. I think they mindlessly worship at their alter. They don't seek out alternatives because they have been taught that they really don't work by the massive marketing and propaganda networks. Blind trust, unexamined. ## Exactly, Believers Dut there's babies in the other bath water too. The rant is about anti-believers which are believers as well, but even less discriminating and even more prone to absorbing propaganda as fact. OK, go right ahead and finance the Devil in hopes you won't meet God. Nope. Don't do legal drugs, illegal drugs, or over the counter drugs. I do use Armour (natural) only because most of my thyroid was removed years ago. That was before I knew about natural medicine. I don't think either one of them cares about smoke and noise. The only thing that counts for anything at all, is what you DO. The whole point of these rantings is to point out that Blame doesn't control anything, but it does hold you helpless to take action. Blame is nothing less than *power of*, given away. Power is only given away when you allow yourself to be silenced by fear. ## Blowing hate smoke is an anti-silence that does the same thing, but gives one the impression that work is being done. It doesn't rely on any real information, just knee jerks and even worse propaganda that reasonable people try to ignore and eventually rally up the police as it heads for mindless riots. Constructive criticism is necessary to any democracy. When we are silenced by fear and fear tactics and propaganda we are no longer a democracy and we no longer can claim any liberty. ## I haven't seen anyone silenced... discounted, yes...because they have no foundation...no better idea that will hold water...only BAD bucket / shoot holes in it. Propaganda doesn't silence anyone, it distracts them. When both sides are having propaganda wars, the real problem falls out of sight. If no one can find the problem, there cannot be a solution. Nor, are we perhaps due any. Helplessness is actually inaction based on fear. Expressing power is actually speaking your own truth and valuing your own ideas, while working toward the general good with integrity.. ## There ya go, Integrity is the key. Where is it? It isn't in the street in the pockets of crowds yelling Kill the Devil Real knowledge is studious quiet hard work and that's what it takes to make any real changes. Studious hard work is what is being fought with mindless chaos that has little BUT propaganda behind itlike fighting fear with an even greater fear...fighting a perceived ignorance with an ever greater ignorance. It's easy to kick somebody over, but then what? You just get a new somebody to kick over that can't stand up as well. Alt med has it's scientists hard at work, but the rioters just serve to DISCOUNT their work giving an excuse to ignore the whole thing as poppycock of the ignorant masses It is , in fact, gaining ground in SPITE of the self defeating behaviors, but would do so faster if it were quieter so as not to give the opposition all that warning and ammunition to use as anti propaganda propaganda. All they have to do is point to a mob and ask...So, who is crazy? ...and all the meat boils right off the bones. We have proven ourselves right, beats You are just wrong but we have no clue about what right is...every time. Right now there is an Organic Revolution taking place. Sellers sell you anything you will buy, that's what sellers do and they don't care what it is. So now, as Organics are becoming a viable science that can compete in the market place, they are in fact soaking up market share and more and more hard working people are jumping on the bandwagon. The buyers dollar voted that one in just because the perception is that of a better idea with some meat on its bones..not just smoke and noise about GM foods. [some of which may well BE better, but we don't know
CSRe
The reason commercial milk products give kids (and some adults) respiratory and other allergic problems is because they contain the remains of all the dead bacterial killed by pasteurization and homogenization. The body responds to these remains as invaders and this causes allergic reactions. This does not happen with raw milk, which is a living food with all the beneficial bacteria and enzymes present that enable the body to assimilate and utilize the contents of the milk. My wife, who has been lactose intolerant all her life, is now happily drinking raw milk and other raw milk products with no adverse reaction. For all the lowdown on raw vs. pasteurized milk, see the video The Whole Truth About Milk. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHcyAH0rOPE Del - Original Message - From: Geoecom geoe...@ipa.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 6:13 PM Subject: RE: CSRe One thought as I have been following this is that for me I could not use whey as it is a milk product and milk products are the no. 1 allergy producing agent . I have been off milk products for over 10 years and our doctors during the 60's 70's suggested taking babys AND tottlers off milk products when they had upper respatory problems, like sinus, and the like..We use to give our kids soybean milk, and back then it tasted and smelled bad. Today it is a great product to consider. George -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CShome-made xolloidial silver
The average 12 volt solar panel puts out 18 volts at generator type loads. That's a plenty and works fine. Now, paint a black stripe on the jar or a black spot on the bottom and let the sun induce thermal convection stirring. That scenario: Plug n' Play Next: Solar water distiller made from old soda bottles or a sheet of plastic and a pebble. Got sun, got water, got CS. Ode At 10:49 AM 1/27/2008 -0500, you wrote: looks like a bad scene to me. lots of money for not much. and the saline starter solution is the same as the old pinch of salt no no no no. this site has absolutely nothing going for it over the silverpuppy. i do like the idea of a little solar panel to power a CS generator times can get hard with no power or gas, and look like they just might. silverpuppy and colloidmaster come in versions that run from 12v battery, so a car dashboard lighter socket could be used. i'll bet there's solar panels putting out 12v that will power them on ebay pretty cheap ... i just looked, there's plenty, and they'll also power/charge laptops, cellphones, ipods, etc... -Original Message- From: faith gagne [mailto:jitte...@gis.net] Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 8:24 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CShome-made xolloidial silver There is one here you could look at: http://www.thesilveredge.com/http://www.thesilveredge.com/ Faith G. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.12/1245 - Release Date: 1/26/2008 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.12/1245 - Release Date: 1/26/2008 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe Sciatica
Connie Thank you. Will ask our Chiropractor about decompression. That may be the problem from the injury I had. I have a tens unit but wouldn't know exactly where to place it. My right side is the one that is the worst. The hot tub helped but it is temporarily out of commission. Thanks again, Dianne - Original Message - From: craehow...@juno.commailto:craehow...@juno.com To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 8:32 AM Subject: Re: CSRe Sciatica Hi Diane.. I suffered for years with that problem... The things that have worked for me are: TENS Unit sometimes I would wear it 24 hour at high settings DECOMPRESSION THERAPY - Last year I went through around 24 session at mychroprators office. It's a table that they strap you on to and it exerts so many pounds of pressure while pulling the disc apart... After around 10 treatment I noticed while doing my walking that I was not compensating on my right leg; and I almost felt that I could run. After finishing treatment I began seeing a physical therapist that doing yogi stretches. He also did decompression therapy using a mobile unit. I ended up purchasing my own unit. Also I had found relief with DMSO. connie _ Get a life insurance quote online. Click to compare rates and save.http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2112/fc/Ioyw6iig79vrCIZYFvmj7WtZ0Mg0YbWPfeJHXdrW02gdscWGJeTqGM/
Re: CSRe
Dianne, May I suggest you find a good acupuncturist. It is by far the most effective therapy for sciatica, and is often curative. Bob - Original Message - From: faith gagne To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 6:21 AM Subject: Re: CSRe About Sciatica http://www.spineuniverse.com/displayarticle.php/sciatica-291.html - Original Message - From: Dianne France To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 8:00 AM Subject: Re: CSRe Dee What strengths did you take of the supplements for sciatica? I am fighting that hard right now and it is winning. Turning over in bed at night sometimes is terribly painful from the sciatica. The shooting pains are hard to deal with. I take CS and l-lysine but don't know BlockBuster. Gentle horseback riding seems to help but figure it stretches something I can't otherwise stretch. I was trying the protocol of Brooks for arthritis someone shared but can't take MSM due to sulphur reaction. The CMO has helped wonderfully but I don't know if I have taken enough CS daily to kill the pathogens. Everything suggested so far has helped and I'm hoping maybe you have a key for the sciatica. I am regaining my mobility. Dianne
Re: [!! SPAM] Re: CSRe
thanks Dee, will try all. Dianne - Original Message - From: Dee mailto:d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 8:58 AM Subject: RE: [!! SPAM] Re: CSRe Well I was absolutely crippled with it Dianne, for two years. I went to a physiotherapist but it didn't work at all, plus I had some kind of ultra sound on my back all to no avail. I seemed to find the cure when I had a bout of shingles because I was taking loads of CS for this and someone (Sol I think) suggested l-lysine. This I was taking at about 2000mgs a day plus the Blockbuster All Clear and miraculously, it went. I also found that if I overdid things and started to get pain, if I leant against a door post and bent my back inwards, this helped enormously, or, laying face down on the floor and pushing myself up until my back arched inwards. This relieved any temporary strain I had placed on my back. Hope this helps. Dee PS I also was taking B supplements and food state vit C. ---Original Message--- From: Ernie Patai Date: 28/01/2008 13:40:40 To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [!! SPAM] Re: CSRe Try exercise.it works wonders!!! E From: Dianne France [mailto:dianne_fra...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 5:01 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: [!! SPAM] Re: CSRe Dee What strengths did you take of the supplements for sciatica? I am fighting that hard right now and it is winning. Turning over in bed at night sometimes is terribly painful from the sciatica The shooting pains are hard to deal with. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.orghttp://silverlist.org/ To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.commailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.commailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSA health question
Marmar, Make sure you are getting enough calcium, magnesium, and potassium in your diet along with a small amount of sea salt. Your problem might also be from stress. Certainly see a cardiologist, but I would also recommend acupuncture for this as it is effective in regulating the heart function as well as relaxing the nervous system in general. A good treatment will leave you feeling very relaxed and balanced, and that will include the function of your heart. Bob - Original Message - From: faith gagne To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 5:59 AM Subject: Re: CSA health question Sounds like she is getting worse, which is possible. She should see the cardiologist again. Or see a different cardiologist. That is nothing to fool around with. Faith G. - Original Message - From: marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 2:00 AM Subject: CSA health question Hi Gang. My cousin emailed me tonight, and told me that she recently had an episode of arrythmia and rapid heartbeat -- for the better part of an entire day. She's been to a cardiologist before for this problem, and apparently isn't getting any help. Seems to me that there's a *natural* solution for this, but darned if I can remember. Any ideas? MA
Re: CSre
faith gagne wrote: Has anyone ever developed a rash from using CS? Thanks. Faith G. There have been reports of a rash occurring as part of a herx with CS. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: [!! SPAM] Re: CSRe
Try exercise.it works wonders!!! E _ From: Dianne France [mailto:dianne_fra...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 5:01 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: [!! SPAM] Re: CSRe Dee What strengths did you take of the supplements for sciatica? I am fighting that hard right now and it is winning. Turning over in bed at night sometimes is terribly painful from the sciatica. The shooting pains are hard to deal with. I take CS and l-lysine but don't know BlockBuster. Gentle horseback riding seems to help but figure it stretches something I can't otherwise stretch. I was trying the protocol of Brooks for arthritis someone shared but can't take MSM due to sulphur reaction. The CMO has helped wonderfully but I don't know if I have taken enough CS daily to kill the pathogens. Everything suggested so far has helped and I'm hoping maybe you have a key for the sciatica. I am regaining my mobility. Dianne - Original Message - From: Dee mailto:d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 6:45 AM Subject: RE: CSRe Well I am not an athlete by any means, but am a 64 year old who has always enjoyed good health. I had a bad bout (2 years) of sciatica but managed to get rid of it using CS and l-lysine, also BlockBuster All Clear. Now I am fine, but I had a period of very low energy, plus anxiety which I put down to stress. The only health problem I have faced has been constipation, which has been mostly cured with magnesium, this may have contributed to the low energy I don't know. I have been taking the whey for about three months now and have found my energy levels have improved such a lot that I didn't realize that I *had* low energy until now! I also got through without catching 'flu while all around me succumbed, and I do know it is supposed to boost immune function. All I can say is, it has worked for me. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Ernie Patai Date: 28/01/2008 01:00:48 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSRe Well I suppose if you are coming from a very bad place anything which is Better will aid in recovery. I'm a very healthy person blessed with great Genetics. So this is coming from someone who is athletic. I need the edge When it comes to performance. I have a bag of whey and I plan to experiment More because I don't want to throw it. People have to be careful what Products they buy because there are lots of fillers in them and often not Mentioned. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS maker models for home use (UNCLASSIFIED)
http://silverpuppy.com/ a great generator with stirring and constant current, free shipping In the USA, the mag unit #2 is really nice. Also some say the http://www.silvergen.com/ is also a good unit, never have owned one though. Sam L. On Jan 28, 2008 8:48 AM, Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil wrote: Classification: * UNCLASSIFIED*** Caveats: NONE I have had 2 of the CS generators listed below, had them for years. Only difference is I use Canadian Maple Leaf coins for silver. I now hang the coins with pure silver wire, but in beginning I just did not put coins in water all the way (I still had a hole in coin to hang on jar) I make the CS by the gallon Bob -- *From:* marmar...@bellsouth.net [mailto:marmar...@bellsouth.net] *Sent:* Monday, January 28, 2008 1:52 AM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* CSCS maker models for home use -- A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have. Google Ron Paul
Re: CShome-made xolloidial silver
Ionic and particulate both kill pathogens. Ionic promotes healing and prevents scar tissue by allowing injured cells to revert to stem cells. Colloidal helps prevent argyria by providing seeds for the silver compounds that are eventually made in the body from ionic, something to plate out on. Best is a combination of them both, with about 10 to 20% being colloidal. Marshall Gene Wolfe wrote: Can someone tell me if there are advantages in ionic silver over particle silver. I have read that particle is better. I have also read that particle is much harder to make than ionic. Thaks, Gene At 10:15 AM 1/26/2008, you wrote: Jessie, The SOTA machine, like most other home machines, makes about 80% ionic and 20% particulate silver. Of course that assumes you use nothing else but distilled water and .999 (or better) fine silver wire. Having a stirrer makes the solution even better with a higher ionic content. The chances of getting argyria from this solution are about nil you'd have to drink gallons daily for many months for that to occur. Never add salt or anything else to the solution when you make it as you don't want silver chloride or any other silver salt to form. Argyria is usually caused by impurities in the silver making compounds that are toxic to the body or whose molecules are too large to be discharged and lodge in the skin as a result. Bob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAlternative Health News Articles Ron Paul Speaks Out Against Dangerous Vaccines
Dee wrote: I wish we had a Ron Paul in the UK! Dee I wish we had him on the CS list! Marshall ---Original Message--- From: Paula Perry Date: 26/01/2008 12:30:35 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSAlternative Health News Articles Ron Paul Speaks Out Against Dangerous Vaccines Ron Paul on the issues of health freedom, forced vaccinations, and the FDA. (Take note Ode) Paula http://www.healthtruthrevealed.com/full-page.php?id=1544502201page=article -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAlternative Health News Articles Ron Paul Speaks Out Against Dangerous Vaccines
In a message dated 1/28/08 12:07:38 PM, mdud...@king-cart.com writes: http://www.healthtruthrevealed.com/full-page.php?id=1544502201; page=article unable to retrieve this article ** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: CSPPM question
I don't know about that, but I do know that I made and used about 5 PPM for the first year or so that I used cs, and it worked great. I believe it is not the actual ppm, but the amount of silver total- so if it is 5ppm, you just use more of it, more often. Perhaps the product is different? kathryn On Jan 28, 2008, at 1:21 AM, Sharlene Miyamura wrote: Would the level of ppm have any bearing on it's effectivenss on whether it is a virus or bacteria? I've heard another forum that the higher the ppm is, the less effective it is on a virus but more effective on bacteria. Is there any truth to this? So some are preferring to go with the 10-14 ppm rather than the 18 ppm. Thank you for any information you can provide. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver peroxide
Sam L. wrote: Interesting article on Silver peroxide. Just make sure you add Hydrogen peroxide to he CS after it 2-3 days old http://www.silverperoxide.com/Introduction%20to%20Huwa-San.pdf Sam.L -- A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have. Google Ron Paul Unfortunately they do not tell us what they are calling silver peroxide. My handbook of chemistry shows silver peroxide to be Ag2O2 ( or AgO ) instead of the normal Ag2O of silver oxide. It indicates that silver peroxide is totally insoluble! So how are they able to get 36,000 ppm solution of this insoluble material? Makes no sense. If indeed they are producing a silver compound which is dissolved in the water, it is NOT silver peroxide. We make silver peroxide all the time. It is the black insoluble stuff that accumulates on one of the electrodes. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver peroxide
Dan Nave wrote: Interesting. Has anyone used colloidal silver to dilute the 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide to 3% or 3.5% for use like over-the-counter H2O2? Sounds like the CS should also stabilize the H2O2 but it's not clear how much you would have to use. If full strength CS is used it should be an awesome disinfectant, as long as it remains stable (for external use since there would be too much H2O2 for internal use). Dan Many of use add hydrogen peroxide to CS, and find it's effectiveness to be greatly increased. But the amounts are very low, like a half teaspoon of hydrogen peroxide per gallon of CS. Marshall Sam L. wrote: Interesting article on Silver peroxide. Just make sure you add Hydrogen peroxide to he CS after it 2-3 days old http://www.silverperoxide.com/Introduction%20to%20Huwa-San.pdf Sam.L -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Cold and hard
Ode, I don't agree that drugs and herbs are identical in active ingredients. Don't they take one or two ingredients from a herb and reproduce it chemically? So it's not the same as a whole herb. Herbs can work in ways synergistically. They may carry some protective elements as well. The body may not use them exactly the same way. Man made drugs always carry toxicity. Herbs do not. Yes, there are poisonous herbs, but I am not referring to them. And there may be some that have some type of toxin as an ingredient. In general the risks are vastly increased on the side of chemically produced synthetic drugs. As far as alternative people being less discriminating. When you blindly follow a treatment that you know is not working, then you do not have the light bulb switched on. You are not doing any thinking. You are relying on someone else to make the medical decisions for you. I have never seen a well person taking shopping bags full of drugs. I do see a lot of healthy and recovering people using supplements. Compare deaths and injury by pharma and supplements. In the case of supplements, no one is complaining except the drug companies. One of the things that I have found with alternative health is that it is a vastly more open system. It is much easier to find answers with an open mind than a closed one. I don't think alternative folks are rioting. Paula - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@alltel.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 9:28 AM Subject: Re: CS Cold and hard That statement makes no sense to me. Drugs are synthetic man made chemicals that always carry some level of toxicity that is not found in natural products and supplements. Risk factors are thousands fold on the side of drugs, including those sold over the counter. Saying you want MORE regulation, government restrictions, and control of health options and products. Unbelievable! ## Untrue. Most of the Pharmaceuticals are identical to the active ingredients in natural herbs, some not and more and more are being custom designed to do a specific job as the art of bio-chemistry develops. Many many of them were first derivatives and purified essences and many still are. There are entire farm industries that supply feed stock, vats and vats of fungi and algae. The issue is just not black and white as natural substances quite often have really nasty toxins along with the beneficial substances and part of THAT healing art is about processing the herbs to limit them. I don't think most people see Pharm and the FDA as evil. I think they mindlessly worship at their alter. They don't seek out alternatives because they have been taught that they really don't work by the massive marketing and propaganda networks. Blind trust, unexamined. ## Exactly, Believers Dut there's babies in the other bath water too. The rant is about anti-believers which are believers as well, but even less discriminating and even more prone to absorbing propaganda as fact. OK, go right ahead and finance the Devil in hopes you won't meet God. Nope. Don't do legal drugs, illegal drugs, or over the counter drugs. I do use Armour (natural) only because most of my thyroid was removed years ago. That was before I knew about natural medicine. I don't think either one of them cares about smoke and noise. The only thing that counts for anything at all, is what you DO. The whole point of these rantings is to point out that Blame doesn't control anything, but it does hold you helpless to take action. Blame is nothing less than *power of*, given away. Power is only given away when you allow yourself to be silenced by fear. ## Blowing hate smoke is an anti-silence that does the same thing, but gives one the impression that work is being done. It doesn't rely on any real information, just knee jerks and even worse propaganda that reasonable people try to ignore and eventually rally up the police as it heads for mindless riots. Constructive criticism is necessary to any democracy. When we are silenced by fear and fear tactics and propaganda we are no longer a democracy and we no longer can claim any liberty. ## I haven't seen anyone silenced... discounted, yes...because they have no foundation...no better idea that will hold water...only BAD bucket / shoot holes in it. Propaganda doesn't silence anyone, it distracts them. When both sides are having propaganda wars, the real problem falls out of sight. If no one can find the problem, there cannot be a solution. Nor, are we perhaps due any. Helplessness is actually inaction based on fear. Expressing power is actually speaking your own truth and valuing your own ideas, while working toward the general good with integrity.. ## There ya go, Integrity is the key. Where is it? It isn't in the street in the pockets of crowds yelling Kill the Devil Real knowledge is studious quiet hard
Re: CSAlternative Health News Articles Ron Paul Speaks Out Against Dangerous Vaccines
just go to healthtruthrevealed.com and scroll down. - Original Message - From: gmetrop...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 12:17 PM Subject: Re: CSAlternative Health News Articles Ron Paul Speaks Out Against Dangerous Vaccines In a message dated 1/28/08 12:07:38 PM, mdud...@king-cart.com writes: http://www.healthtruthrevealed.com/full-page.php?id=1544502201page=article unable to retrieve this article ** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489
Re: CS Cold and hard
Synthetics are NOT NOT NOT identical to natural herbs. As one example of this, just listen to the tv ads that warn of all the horrible side effects of these drugs. Or look up the side effects of these drugs and compare them with the side effects (if there are any) of natural herbs. I don't know where Ode gets his ideas. Recently Ode talked about ceo's, and he asked whether you (the consumer, I suppose) could do a ceo's job. But whether or not one could do a ceo's job is the totally wrong question. The question is: If you had an employee who was screwing up by the numbers and you fired him, would you supply him with a mega-million retirement package as a reward for his mis-deeds or insufficiency? Most of the people I know see Pharma and the FDA as power and money-grubbing gluttons who have their own interests at heart, not the well-being of the people. Hate-smoke propaganda is an attitude that lives between Ode's ears. Faith G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShome-made colloidal silver
Boiling the water removes absorbed carbon dioxide. Carbon dioxide makes silver carbonate, but not much unless heavily carbonated. Marshall bbanever wrote: Yvonne, Why are you boiling the water before use? I believe a stirrer might do the same thing if you're looking for Brownian movement. - Original Message - From: Yvonne Prete yvonnepr...@comcast.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 7:14 AM Subject: CShome-made colloidal silver Thanks to everyone who offered me answers to my questions. I'll discuss the ionic vs small particle question with SOTA and let you know what they say. For several months I tested my home-made solution with an expensive and tedious meter using n expensive solution. As long as I used distilled water, heated it to boiling. and left the silver wires in for twenty minutes, I got 5 ppm of whatever I was making. Yvonne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSre
I don't think herx is an issue there. Thanks. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 11:15 AM Subject: Re: CSre faith gagne wrote: Has anyone ever developed a rash from using CS? Thanks. Faith G. There have been reports of a rash occurring as part of a herx with CS. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShome-made xolloidial silver
Where does one get particulate silver? Thanks. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 12:05 PM Subject: Re: CShome-made xolloidial silver Ionic and particulate both kill pathogens. Ionic promotes healing and prevents scar tissue by allowing injured cells to revert to stem cells. Colloidal helps prevent argyria by providing seeds for the silver compounds that are eventually made in the body from ionic, something to plate out on. Best is a combination of them both, with about 10 to 20% being colloidal. Marshall Gene Wolfe wrote: Can someone tell me if there are advantages in ionic silver over particle silver. I have read that particle is better. I have also read that particle is much harder to make than ionic. Thaks, Gene -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSQuestions about CS mA and use of H2O2
Wow, I like that! Very good demonstration of the ability of H2O2 to reduce particle size, and increase their number. I am adding that link to my paragraph about it at http://silver-lightning.com/theory.html#HP Marshall Ode Coyote wrote: http://silverpuppy.com/csh2o2.html What H2O2 does to stabilized CS. [before and after micrographs, thanks to Nancy Delise ] Ode At 11:00 PM 1/26/2008 -0600, you wrote: George, 1.) I can't remember the exact amount, but I believe I have used up to 15 or 20 drops (sometimes more) of 3% H2O2 for about 20 ounces of CS, depending on the strength of the CS. Wait a few days after making the CS before adding H2O2. Also, if you cap the bottle the reaction continues longer if you are trying to get it to clear. I think I have heard one teaspoon per gallon... One quarter teaspoon is about 20 drops, one teaspoon is about 80 drops, but drops vary in size so this is only approximate. If you are using 35% food grade H2O2, that would only be a few drops (divide by 10 approximately). 2.) Generally, people are recommending a maximum of 1 to 1.5 mA per square inch of wetted anode. I think you could go higher, depending on how good your stirring is. The thinking is that lower currents give you smaller particles, and higher currents cause agglomeration of silver into larger particles. Using H2O2 after making as described above should break up these larger particles. You should use the Faraday Equations spread sheet to determine how much silver you are releasing into the water. The Equations will give you the *maximum* amount of silver released, but you will loose some as buildup on your electrodes unless you use polarity switching. Dan George Knoll wrote: I have some questions.. as I want the most effective CS I can make and the best quality.. No. 1.. When one adds H2O2 how much per quart... then I assume you would multiply the by 4 for a gal. No.2 I have 4 sq in of Silver bar in a qt jar and start my current at 4 mA on my power supply.. As the process continues over time the density of silver builds up in the water and the mA will increase to over 15 mA. My question is would it not be better to lower the mA back to 8 or less to have a better product? Lowering the mA wil prolong the process. taking longer but my goal is quality. Does it make a difference My voltage starting out is 30 volts. On my present setup to bring the mA down requires less volts. I have order a 40 mA dc light bulb and that will help Let me know your thoughts.l I hope this also helps some new be CS makers George Knoll geoe...@ipa.net EarthLink Revolves Around You. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1234 - Release Date: 1/20/2008 2:15 PM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.11/1244 - Release Date: 1/25/2008 7:44 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.11/1244 - Release Date: 1/25/2008
Re: CSRe
No doubt a lot of people do have sciatica for the reasons in the article, but I have a theory, and the fact that mine disappeared is a testament to that theory i.e. That some forms of sciatica are caused by the herpes virus, when the immune system is under stress. I also read somewhere that someone else thinks that this could be the case. Can't remember where I read it though, as I looked up so many articles when I had it. Anyway, I went on that premise and the crippling pain I suffered went away. I had all the stabbing' pains in my skin all over too and was in quite a bad way with it, although I never gave in to it. Dee ---Original Message--- From: faith gagne Date: 28/01/2008 14:21:30 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe About Sciatica http://www.spineuniverse.com/displayarticle php/sciatica-291.html -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShome-made xolloidial silver
Dan Nave wrote: If colloidal silver turns into silver chloride in the stomach it should be easy to show that ingesting a comparable quantity of silver chloride as colloidal silver has the same effect. Colloidal silver is unaffected by the stomach acid. Ionic silver turns into silver chloride. Marshall Dan Ode Coyote wrote: If the Ion gains an anion OH[-] it becomes a suspended Silver Hydroxide particle once the waters saturation point for AgOh is exceeded. If it gains an Oxygen atom, it becomes Silver Oxide. That happens within the diffusion layer for the most part and as long as that layer isn't overloaded, it will stay there and stick to the electrode. If the Ion gains an electron, it becomes a metallic silver particle. The structure of particles can be quite variable including nucleated lattices of similar particles growing around a dis-similar particle. Glass with metallic alloys [as glass is] could act as a oor solar cell and capacitor to donate electrons to ions that contact the glass. A Harvard study found that glass surfaces act as nucleation sites in Ionic Silver. All three can be and are produced along with hydrated silver ions being protected by the water against the OH anions and the ratios can be tweeked. What happens to AgOH with stomach acid, I don't know. Metallic silver can be coaxed into ionizing... H2O2 is a catalyst and there may be many battery effect situations in the body where there is iron, silver and salt, for instance. H2O2 will destroy certain Silver Oxides instantly... I've heard there is some of that produced by the cells? Much is not known, but the stuff works anyhow. If it's all in there, it doesn't really matter what did what and what didn't. It's likely that they all work on and with each other. The bodies chemical soup provides myriads of opportunities for anything to happen...and..it's intelligent. If Silver Chloride is made in the stomach, it deprives another of hundreds of other reactions of something which just may enhance the delivery of silver ions. No one knows. Many simplistic theories that can't possibly tell the whole story abound. Arguments about which one is the right one get stuck in This OR that and don't go into This AND that, plus the other. .which is just too plain complicated to even argue about and not get LOST. LOL Sometimes we aren't quite as intelligent as our bodies are. The body works, doesn't matter why or how...till it doesn't. Then we feed it silver to help it sort itself out again, right? In the light of the silvery moon. could be it just drops its drawers and moons germs to death and the rest is about fashion and belt buckles vs elastic bands, pants down or dresses up. Well, even if the crowd is wearing different clothing, a moon is still a moon. Ode At 03:36 PM 1/26/2008 -0500, you wrote: Oded has stated a number of times that every colloid begins life as an ion, so why are we comparing differences when there may not be any?What is particle silver? Thanks. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Dee d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 2:11 PM Subject: Re: CShome-made xolloidial silver The consensus seems to be that ionic is just as good as colloidal; some think better, but this is arguable. Mostly, people think that mostly ionic with about 10% seems to be the best mix. Dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.11/1244 - Release Date: 1/25/2008 7:44 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.11/1244 - Release Date: 1/25/2008
Re: CSA health question
Michael Zangari wrote: To bring this back to list. I've learned a little jewlery making. I wire wrap stones with silver wire. Any thoughts out there on wearing silver (not stearling) jewlery?) Pure silver (unlike sterling) should be hypoallergenic. There are some people who seem to exude a sulfur compound which tarnishes the silver though. Id don't think one absorbs much silver through jewelry, if an at all. Marshall =z= The novelist, journalist and psychologist Michael Zangari _http://zangarijournalism.com http://zangarijournalism.com/_ - Original Message From: Michael Zangari truez2...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 3:34:18 AM Subject: Re: CSA health question I've been dealing with this one for awhile. I'd say from my own experience to not wear jewlery on the hands for starters. But the following stones smooth heart beat remarkably, especially the obsideon (not snowflake.) Periodite works really well though the lime green color is a little garish. There are a couple more. But several years ago I had a bout with tackicardia and layed an obsidean stone on my chest and within seconds it evened out. Both periodite and obsidean of course come from volcanic eruptions... =z= The novelist, journalist and psychologist Michael Zangari _http://zangarijournalism.com http://zangarijournalism.com/_ - Original Message From: marmar...@bellsouth.net marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 2:00:27 AM Subject: CSA health question Hi Gang. My cousin emailed me tonight, and told me that she recently had an episode of arrythmia and rapid heartbeat -- for the better part of an entire day. She's been to a cardiologist before for this problem, and apparently isn't getting any help. Seems to me that there's a *natural* solution for this, but darned if I can remember. Any ideas? MA Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51438/*http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51734/*http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSWater Distiller
Do many people distill their own water? If so, can anyone recommend a water distiller? Thanks very much. Faith G./\
Re: CSWater Distiller
Faith, this is the cheapest I have found: www.waterdistiller.com They have one about $20 more that takes less time which to me would be worth it. Leslie --- faith gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote: Do many people distill their own water? If so, can anyone recommend a water distiller? Thanks very much. Faith G./\ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CS Cold and hard
...compare them with the side effects (if there are any) of natural herbs. If there are any??? You must be kidding. -Original Message- From: faith gagne [mailto:jitte...@gis.net] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 11:38 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS Cold and hard Synthetics are NOT NOT NOT identical to natural herbs. As one example of this, just listen to the tv ads that warn of all the horrible side effects of these drugs. Or look up the side effects of these drugs and compare them with the side effects (if there are any) of natural herbs. I don't know where Ode gets his ideas. Recently Ode talked about ceo's, and he asked whether you (the consumer, I suppose) could do a ceo's job. But whether or not one could do a ceo's job is the totally wrong question. The question is: If you had an employee who was screwing up by the numbers and you fired him, would you supply him with a mega-million retirement package as a reward for his mis-deeds or insufficiency? Most of the people I know see Pharma and the FDA as power and money-grubbing gluttons who have their own interests at heart, not the well-being of the people. Hate-smoke propaganda is an attitude that lives between Ode's ears. Faith G. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.14/1247 - Release Date: 1/28/2008 10:59 AM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWater Distiller
Sears has one. - Original Message - From: faith gagne To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 12:04 PM Subject: CSWater Distiller Do many people distill their own water? If so, can anyone recommend a water distiller? Thanks very much. Faith G./\
Re: CS Cold and hard
Oh sure. - Original Message - From: Terry slickpic...@cox.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 3:25 PM Subject: RE: CS Cold and hard ...compare them with the side effects (if there are any) of natural herbs. If there are any??? You must be kidding. -Original Message- From: faith gagne [mailto:jitte...@gis.net] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 11:38 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS Cold and hard Synthetics are NOT NOT NOT identical to natural herbs. As one example of this, just listen to the tv ads that warn of all the horrible side effects of these drugs. Or look up the side effects of these drugs and compare them with the side effects (if there are any) of natural herbs. I don't know where Ode gets his ideas. Recently Ode talked about ceo's, and he asked whether you (the consumer, I suppose) could do a ceo's job. But whether or not one could do a ceo's job is the totally wrong question. The question is: If you had an employee who was screwing up by the numbers and you fired him, would you supply him with a mega-million retirement package as a reward for his mis-deeds or insufficiency? Most of the people I know see Pharma and the FDA as power and money-grubbing gluttons who have their own interests at heart, not the well-being of the people. Hate-smoke propaganda is an attitude that lives between Ode's ears. Faith G. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.14/1247 - Release Date: 1/28/2008 10:59 AM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe:CS maker models for home use
Everyone, thanks so much for your input. I'll be looking up these models and deciding which to get. Silvia www.imageevent.com/redskyahts
RE: CShome-made xolloidial silver
Marshall, could you please point me to a source for your statement that Ionic promotes healing and prevents scar tissue by allowing injured cells to revert to stem cells. I would like to read more about this. Silvia www.imageevent.com/redskyahts - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com Ionic and particulate both kill pathogens. Ionic promotes healing and prevents scar tissue by allowing injured cells to revert to stem cells. Colloidal helps prevent argyria by providing seeds for the silver compounds that are eventually made in the body from ionic, something to plate out on. Best is a combination of them both, with about 10 to 20% being colloidal. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShome-made xolloidial silver
The typical setup most the members of this list use, produces about 10 to 20% particulate or colloidal, and 80 to 90% ionic silver. Marshall faith gagne wrote: Where does one get particulate silver? Thanks. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 12:05 PM Subject: Re: CShome-made xolloidial silver Ionic and particulate both kill pathogens. Ionic promotes healing and prevents scar tissue by allowing injured cells to revert to stem cells. Colloidal helps prevent argyria by providing seeds for the silver compounds that are eventually made in the body from ionic, something to plate out on. Best is a combination of them both, with about 10 to 20% being colloidal. Marshall Gene Wolfe wrote: Can someone tell me if there are advantages in ionic silver over particle silver. I have read that particle is better. I have also read that particle is much harder to make than ionic. Thaks, Gene -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe
I went to the site Faith sent and have saved everything that everyone has sent and plan to incorporate every bit that I can do to get rid of this. It's one of the worst pains I've ever had. To cough or sneeze brings tears to my eyes. Fortunately it isn't every day but sometimes can last for days. I'm increasing my cs and going to talk to the chiropractor about decompression. If he doesn't have this available then I'll arrange to see the acupuncturist. I've used her before but for a different problem. I haven't had a virus that I know. I've stayed fairly healthy since learning about cs and using it. Thank everyone for their help. Dianne - Original Message - From: Dee mailto:d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 2:20 PM Subject: Re: CSRe No doubt a lot of people do have sciatica for the reasons in the article, but I have a theory, and the fact that mine disappeared is a testament to that theory i.e. That some forms of sciatica are caused by the herpes virus, when the immune system is under stress. I also read somewhere that someone else thinks that this could be the case. Can't remember where I read it though, as I looked up so many articles when I had it. Anyway, I went on that premise and the crippling pain I suffered went away. I had all the stabbing' pains in my skin all over too and was in quite a bad way with it, although I never gave in to it. Dee ---Original Message--- From: faith gagne Date: 28/01/2008 14:21:30 To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe About Sciatica http://www.spineuniverse.com/displayarticlehttp://www.spineuniverse.com/displayarticle php/sciatica-291.html -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.orghttp://silverlist.org/ To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.commailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.commailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Cold and hard
Ode; you have been a respected member of this list for many years. Care to tell us how many? On Jan 28, 2008 3:25 PM, Terry slickpic...@cox.net wrote: ...compare them with the side effects (if there are any) of natural herbs. If there are any??? You must be kidding. -Original Message- From: faith gagne [mailto:jitte...@gis.net] Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 11:38 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS Cold and hard Synthetics are NOT NOT NOT identical to natural herbs. As one example of this, just listen to the tv ads that warn of all the horrible side effects of these drugs. Or look up the side effects of these drugs and compare them with the side effects (if there are any) of natural herbs. I don't know where Ode gets his ideas. Recently Ode talked about ceo's, and he asked whether you (the consumer, I suppose) could do a ceo's job. But whether or not one could do a ceo's job is the totally wrong question. The question is: If you had an employee who was screwing up by the numbers and you fired him, would you supply him with a mega-million retirement package as a reward for his mis-deeds or insufficiency? Most of the people I know see Pharma and the FDA as power and money-grubbing gluttons who have their own interests at heart, not the well-being of the people. Hate-smoke propaganda is an attitude that lives between Ode's ears. Faith G. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.14/1247 - Release Date: 1/28/2008 10:59 AM -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com
Re: CSWater Distiller
Thanks Leslie. I will definitely check it out. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Leslie leslie3...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 3:07 PM Subject: Re: CSWater Distiller Faith, this is the cheapest I have found: www.waterdistiller.com They have one about $20 more that takes less time which to me would be worth it. Leslie --- faith gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWater Distiller
Thank you. Faith G. - Original Message - From: James McCourt, Ph.D. To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 3:47 PM Subject: Re: CSWater Distiller Sears has one. - Original Message - From: faith gagne To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 12:04 PM Subject: CSWater Distiller Do many people distill their own water? If so, can anyone recommend a water distiller? Thanks very much. Faith G./\
CSCS:re Sciatica /infection?could be!
This is from The New York Times by John O'Neil.Approx. ten years or so ago. The following info is from that article I saved when trying to get my Drs. interested in this protocol;to no avail. Quote: Researchers at the Royal Orthopedic Hospital in Birmingham,England,have found that many patients with sciatica-pain extending from their back and into their legs- had infectious microorganisms in the area of the sciatic nerve.In one group,43 of 140 people had the bacteria,among 36 patients with severe sciatica,19 carried the bug. the researchers theorize that some cases of lower back pain are actually chronic low-grade infections,and these occur when microscopic tears in spinal disks allow the organisms entry.Next up: The doctors will test a larger group of sciatica patients and try anti-biotic treatments. End of quote. Since then I had info. that a few practitioners in the US were using H2O2 injections in treating for infectious organisms in sciatica cases, with excellent results. Sorry; I don't have this info at hand now as I lost it when my last comp. died. Harold . -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPPM question
This is the product's patent. http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1Sect2=HITOFFd=PALLp=1u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htmr=1f=Gl=50s1=7,135,195.PN.OS=PN/7,135,195RS=PN/7,135,195 I hope someone can scan it and tell me if it is different from EIS. On Jan 28, 2008 7:26 AM, Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: I don't know about that, but I do know that I made and used about 5 PPM for the first year or so that I used cs, and it worked great. I believe it is not the actual ppm, but the amount of silver total- so if it is 5ppm, you just use more of it, more often. Perhaps the product is different? kathryn On Jan 28, 2008, at 1:21 AM, Sharlene Miyamura wrote: Would the level of ppm have any bearing on it's effectivenss on whether it is a virus or bacteria? I've heard another forum that the higher the ppm is, the less effective it is on a virus but more effective on bacteria. Is there any truth to this? So some are preferring to go with the 10-14 ppm rather than the 18 ppm. Thank you for any information you can provide. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CShome-made xolloidial silver
Okay. I get it now. Thanks. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 4:28 PM Subject: Re: CShome-made xolloidial silver The typical setup most the members of this list use, produces about 10 to 20% particulate or colloidal, and 80 to 90% ionic silver. Marshall faith gagne wrote: Where does one get particulate silver? Thanks. Faith G. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRe
I hope you find relief Dianne. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Dianne France To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 5:25 PM Subject: Re: CSRe I went to the site Faith sent and have saved everything that everyone has sent and plan to incorporate every bit that I can do to get rid of this. It's one of the worst pains I've ever had. To cough or sneeze brings tears to my eyes. Fortunately it isn't every day but sometimes can last for days. I'm increasing my cs and going to talk to the chiropractor about decompression. If he doesn't have this available then I'll arrange to see the acupuncturist. I've used her before but for a different problem. I haven't had a virus that I know. I've stayed fairly healthy since learning about cs and using it. Thank everyone for their help. Dianne
Re: CSPPM question
I'm not an expert on this sort of thing, but I can see it is a high voltage electrolysis machine with stirring. It claims to make a mostly colloidal suspension, with little ions. I am not familiar with high voltage machines. But EIS = electrically isolated silver (but it really refers to the 80 % ions and 20% particles) and this is made using electricity, but is claimed to be mostly colloid. Do you have one of these units, and is this what you are taking? Or is this a hypothethical discussion? Kathryn On Jan 28, 2008, at 5:52 PM, Sharlene Miyamura wrote: This is the product's patent. http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser? Sect1=PTO1Sect2=HITOFFd=PALLp=1u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htmr= 1f=Gl=50s1=7,135,195.PN.OS=PN/7,135,195RS=PN/7,135,195 I hope someone can scan it and tell me if it is different from EIS. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPPM question
This is the ready-made CS that I buy through a mlm company with the exclusive rights to the 14 ppm, 18 ppm and silver gel through this company that owns the patent. The patent holders also sell the 10 ppm on the general market but I was told that the 10 ppm would be better for viruses and not to mention much cheaper. By the way, I own a Sota generator and just getting started making my own EIS but always wondered what the difference was between the two silver solutions. And yes, I've been taking this ready-made CS for many years and only found out about making it myself through this forum. On Jan 28, 2008 3:48 PM, Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: I'm not an expert on this sort of thing, but I can see it is a high voltage electrolysis machine with stirring. It claims to make a mostly colloidal suspension, with little ions. I am not familiar with high voltage machines. But EIS = electrically isolated silver (but it really refers to the 80 % ions and 20% particles) and this is made using electricity, but is claimed to be mostly colloid. Do you have one of these units, and is this what you are taking? Or is this a hypothethical discussion? Kathryn On Jan 28, 2008, at 5:52 PM, Sharlene Miyamura wrote: This is the product's patent. http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser? Sect1=PTO1Sect2=HITOFFd=PALLp=1u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htmr= 1f=Gl=50s1=7,135,195.PN.OS=PN/7,135,195RS=PN/7,135,195 I hope someone can scan it and tell me if it is different from EIS. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSSciatica
Hi, Dianne, For Sciatica relief, I'll second the suggestion of taking L-Lysine! Worked for me. I'd suggest also adding Vitamin E to help combat internal scarring. You can google stretching exercises, the one that worked the best for me was stand with hands on hips and knees slightly bent, arch back slowly and slightly. Let us know when you start feeling better! Take care, Cindy L-lysine is an essential amino acid for humans and therefore must be supplied in the diet. For years, lysine has been considered in the treatment of herpes and cold sores, and more recently, has been attracting attention as a possible addition to the fast-growing list of muscle-building nutrients. L-lysine helps to build muscle protein, it is good for those recovering from surgery and sports injuries. http://www.herbs-wholesale.com/article/l-lysine.asp Vitamin E belongs to a family of fat-soluble compounds. It is available in different forms, the most common and potent being alpha tocopherol. Its main function is as an antioxidant. It Beneficial Effectss destruction of fats and vitamin A in the body by oxygen fragments. The vitamin also Enhances in the production of hormone-like substances that regulate blood pressure, reproduction, and muscle contraction. http://www.herbs-wholesale.com/Vitamin-E-512_info.htm
CSPPM question ( Worthless Patent )
18 ppm and silver gel through this company that owns the patent. The patent holders also sell the 10 ppm on the general market but I was told that the 10 ppm would be better for viruses and not to mention much cheaper. The patent is a fraud, worthless, and more. For one simple reason, it cannot be enforced. The patents I have seen, state very clearly, this patent forbids all other some making, selling, or using. Not tell me how many times per day that patent is violated. It is almost like a patent on distilled water when everyone in the world knows how to make it and half the people do. Wayne === -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSciatica
I've had a few bouts with sciatica, enough to know I don't want to experience another one. The first one I ever had was long before there was an internet to get so much wonderful info from. Hitting my reference books at the time, I learned that it was probably from an overly acidic condition that was irritating the sciatic nerve (I now know that I have degenerated disks that made the area susceptible to this acidity.) I had been experimenting with heavy doses of ascorbic acid, so this made sense. I used small amounts of bicarb, 1/4 tsp here and there and found it very helpful. Some more research uncovered the role of thiamin/B-1 in alleviating anything to do with both an acid condition as well as anything to do with nerves. In the past 2 yrs I've kept Benfotiamine in the house and any time the sciatic nerve acts up, it's the first thing I reach for. It's a form of B-1 used by diabetics for thier diabetic neuropathy, and it's fat soluble. Works wonders for sciatica! Of course, till the flare up dies down, I also use a heating pad, Advil, sometimes 1/2 valium while waiting for the Benfo and bicarb to do their wonders. Starshar Hi, Dianne, For Sciatica relief, I'll second the suggestion of taking L-Lysine! Worked for me. I'd suggest also adding Vitamin E to help combat internal scarring. You can google stretching exercises, the one that worked the best for me was stand with hands on hips and knees slightly bent, arch back slowly and slightly. Let us know when you start feeling better! Take care, Cindy L-lysine is an essential amino acid for humans and therefore must be supplied in the diet. For years, lysine has been considered in the treatment of herpes and cold sores, and more recently, has been attracting attention as a possible addition to the fast-growing list of muscle-building nutrients. L-lysine helps to build muscle protein, it is good for those recovering from surgery and sports injuries. http://www.herbs-wholesale.com/article/l-lysine.asp Vitamin E belongs to a family of fat-soluble compounds. It is available in different forms, the most common and potent being alpha tocopherol. Its main function is as an antioxidant. It Beneficial Effectss destruction of fats and vitamin A in the body by oxygen fragments. The vitamin also Enhances in the production of hormone-like substances that regulate blood pressure, reproduction, and muscle contraction. http://www.herbs-wholesale.com/Vitamin-E-512_info.htm
Re: CSPPM question ( Worthless Patent )
Wayne: I agree totally with what you're saying, I don't give a hoot about the patent anyway. My main reason for writing was if anyone had heard about the low level of ppm affecting the virus more effectively than the bacteria, but I guess not. I thought by sending the patent someone could look at their process and see if it differs from what you all are doing. Kathryn answered that saying it is high voltage electrolysis. Thanks Kathryn. On Jan 28, 2008 6:55 PM, Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com wrote: 18 ppm and silver gel through this company that owns the patent. The patent holders also sell the 10 ppm on the general market but I was told that the 10 ppm would be better for viruses and not to mention much cheaper. The patent is a fraud, worthless, and more. For one simple reason, it cannot be enforced. The patents I have seen, state very clearly, this patent forbids all other some making, selling, or using. Not tell me how many times per day that patent is violated. It is almost like a patent on distilled water when everyone in the world knows how to make it and half the people do. Wayne === -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
