Re: CSEIS Immune system booster?
My doctor didn't say this to me, although I realize that this is not the sort of thing all doctors would be au fait on. She just said it was this mystery nerve pain aka fibromyalgia. It used to be known as fibrositis but now is known blanketly as fibromyalgia. My first doctor, however, *did* say it was shingles, (herpes) but I didn't believe him as I had no lesions. My friends doctor told her the same, although he threw in a bit of 'wear and tear' as the cause also, although it came suddenly, and went just as suddenly! The wear and tear must have worn off I concluded - LOL! Dee ---Original Message--- From: Kirsteen Wright Date: 24/02/2008 21:54:49 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSEIS Immune system booster? On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 8:56 PM, Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: Well, as I understand it, they call 'mystery nerve pain' fibromyalgia for want of a better word. In other words, no-one is really sure what causes it Yes there are a lot of theories but no definitive research but a diagnosis of fibromayalgia requires that at least a majority of the fibro points are extremely tender when pressed. There are 2 at the base of the skull,2 at the front of the neck, 2 on top of the shoulders sort of half way out, 2 on the shoulder blades at the front, 2 at the back either side of the spine, 2 at the elbows on the top of te arm, 2 inside the knees, 2 sort of at the top of the gluteus maximus and 2 nearer the outside of the hips. You really need a reliable chart to identify them. Many unidentified pains are referred to as myalgia but true fibromyalgia always involves these points. Kirsteen
Re: CSsymptoms to kirstee,
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 4:50 AM, zeb caffe jamaki...@yahoo.com wrote: was there anything that you can think of that caused an onset of your symptoms like a flue bug, getting bitten by anything, an accident(car) etc? I personally suspect that it may have been caused by exposure to an insecticide spray. July 2006 I was fit, healthy, working 12 hour shifts, excercising, decorating, moving house, extremely active. I had, over a couple of weeks, more that normal exposure to a spray containing pyriproxyfen and permethrin. I developed headaches, aches and pains, and became tired very quickly. I didn't connect it at the time but put it down to overwork, moving anf humphing furniture around. August I went on holiday, witin the UK, and that's when I realised it was more than that. Normally I'm extremely active on holiday spending days walking round exploring etc. This time, by the time we got there I was exhausted and the slightest effort left me weak. It was so frustrating. I came home, struggled back to work, determined not to give in to it. However, one day I made it into work, sat down, was the only member of staff in the building (I worked in a residential unit for the homeless) and when the phone rang, I literally couldn't get out of the chair to answer it. When other staff arrived, I had to be helped into a taxi and helped home. And it's been mostly downhill ever since. At the beginning, since I was a Silva Method graduate I was determined I could cure it with that. I also scoured the internet, joined loads of health groups and tried just about every supplement going as there's always someone swearing that x, y or z is what you need to cure it. Some have proved of limited help. D-ribose helps a little and melatonin definitely helps sleep. Nothing else proved to have any effect and I soon realised that, no longer working but being on incapacity benefit, I could spend my monthly income 10 times over on supplements alone. I found the constant disappointment of things not helping also hard to take and that constantly focussing on my illness was taking over my sanity as well as my life. Nowadays I'm much choosier, if someone recommends something, I want to know why, what research has been done, exactly how many people it's helped etc. and then if it sounds interesting I'll discuss it with the one M.E. group I've remained in and then decide whether to try it or not. Of course I've been accused of not wanting to get well by people with no actual knowledge of M.E. but who are convinced their supplement is the new wonder cure-all. On a day to day basis I try not to get frustrated with my limitations but to focus on what I can do. Most of the groups I'm in have to do with art as it's such a positive force and I truly believe I'm lucky in that I've avoided the depression many M.E. sufferers develop. I put this down to the meditation and positive thinking. Despite what I've written above, I am always open to new ideas and suggestions as long as people realise that I'll evaluate them but won't and can't necesarily try them all. I'm also eternally grateful for CS as, although it doesn't help te M.E., since I started it I've avoided all antibiotics completely. Kirsteen
Re: CSvarious conditions off topic
Sorry I don't subscribe to off topic ... just a quick comment. About the time of Egar Cacey there was also another man called Mr. H. What Mr H would do is place his hands on people and would bring about a cure. According to the book I read it indicate he was mending their electrical field. Which goes along with your comment. Not sure if anyone knows about this man or also read the book. I still have the book just need to locate it. connie _ Click for free info on earning your associates degrees. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2111/fc/Ioyw6iieX0oU3Zh56ADgkDfL0ZpOoDGwIyvbQC0CSxJmuNIr0dQNY8/
Re: CSvarious conditions off topic
Check out Dr Richard Bartlett's Matrix Energetics! Pretty amazing stuff and he actually spends all his time teaching others to do what he has learned to do. Lin - Original Message - From: craehow...@juno.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 4:55 AM Subject: Re: CSvarious conditions off topic Sorry I don't subscribe to off topic ... just a quick comment. About the time of Egar Cacey there was also another man called Mr. H. What Mr H would do is place his hands on people and would bring about a cure. According to the book I read it indicate he was mending their electrical field. Which goes along with your comment. Not sure if anyone knows about this man or also read the book. I still have the book just need to locate it. connie _ Click for free info on earning your associates degrees.
Re: CSsymptoms to kirstee,
Kirsteen, Have you been tested for Lyme Disease? Do you know about it? Maybe worthwhile to just take a peek at all the Lyme Disease symptoms. Most everyone of us have Fibromyalgia. Rare that someone doesn't. Many were mis-diagnosed with Fibro, MS, ALS, Arthritis. CFS, and the list goes on. Sasha ---Original Message--- From: Kirsteen Wright I personally suspect that it may have been caused by exposure to an insecticide spray. July 2006 I was fit, healthy, working 12 hour shifts, excercising, decorating, moving house, extremely active. I had, over a couple of weeks, more that normal exposure to a spray containing pyriproxyfen and permethrin. I developed headaches, aches and pains, and became tired very quickly. ve been accused of not wanting to get well by people with no actual knowledge of M.E. but who are convinced their supplement is the new wonder cure-all. Kirsteen -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEIS Immune system booster?
Ian Davies wrote: I have heard and read on many occasions that EIS boosts the immune system, as I found out last weekend, that is not desireable for some people. We had a visitor staying the weekend who suffers from Reumatoid Arthritis, I suggested that EIS might help for avoiding things like colds and flu. The term boost which I used in my description of EIS put her off immediately, you don't want to give strength to something that is attacking you. I would think that EIS does NOT boost the immune system, it simply deals with infections etc which the immune system would have to deal with if EIS was not used. Please correct me if I wrong!!! It does not boost the immune system. It boosts immunity. That is, it has no direct effect on the body's immune system, but rather kills pathogens directly, helping relieve the immune system. I prefer to say it relieves the immune system than boosts it. If she is having her immune system attacking her joints, then that is easy to stop. A round of CMO should stop that pretty quickly. But CMO without killing the pathogens that get the body started attacking itself will be of limited effectiveness. She need to follow the protocol of: 1. kill the pathogens. IE EIS 2. Take CMO to reset the immune system 3. Take supplements to rebuild the joints. The argument may sound like picking too much at details or use of vocabulary but as I found out the word boost is not always desireable and I would like to think that what EIS does is to give you a secondary immune system and not boost the one we have which ultimately is the only cure for many ailments like the common cold. The boost that EIS gives to the immune system would be to reduce the workload but not to affect it directly. Yes, exactly. Marshall I would appreciate any comments and or clarification. Thank you Ian in Spain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEIS Immune system booster?
faith gagne wrote: I think Boost is the totally appropriate word for something that provides support and assistance in protecting the body. I do not think that your own immune system would attack you unless you had AIDS or something. Your friend is splitting hairs.Faith G. There are many diseases caused by one's own immune system attacking your own tissues. Arthritis and lupus are just two of them. I am not aware of any evidence that AIDS is an autoimmune disease at all. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_autoimmune_diseases for a list of about 50 of them. Marshall - Original Message - *From:* Ian Davies mailto:blackyme...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Saturday, February 23, 2008 7:50 AM *Subject:* CSEIS Immune system booster? I have heard and read on many occasions that EIS boosts the immune system, as I found out last weekend, that is not desireable for some people. We had a visitor staying the weekend who suffers from Reumatoid Arthritis, I suggested that EIS might help for avoiding things like colds and flu. The term boost which I used in my description of EIS put her off immediately, you don't want to give strength to something that is attacking you. I would think that EIS does NOT boost the immune system, it simply deals with infections etc which the immune system would have to deal with if EIS was not used. Please correct me if I wrong!!! The argument may sound like picking too much at details or use of vocabulary but as I found out the word boost is not always desireable and I would like to think that what EIS does is to give you a secondary immune system and not boost the one we have which ultimately is the only cure for many ailments like the common cold. The boost that EIS gives to the immune system would be to reduce the workload but not to affect it directly. I would appreciate any comments and or clarification. Thank you Ian in Spain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPackaging and selling EIS
Deborah Gerard wrote: My mom has been selling some EIS that I have been making at work. I am thinking about going to the farmers market this spring and trying to sell it there. Any words of advice or suggestions on packaging, labeling etc.? thanks in advance debbie Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51734/*http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Packaging requires that you put the nutrition facts on the label, and make no medical claims. Also you must list the contents, and net weight. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEIS Immune system booster?
My husband has a cousin, who took over her 100 yr old home after her mom died. They stripped it outside and inside. I went there at Christmas time, immediately I could smell mold. She was so taken aback and said there is no mold here only in the basement!!! What, i said, she said that the water is running in the basement on the floors and we haven't fixed it yet. I told her that the mold can crawl up the 100 yr old wood quickly as well as the cement, she dismissed this. She is very sick, the docs do not know what is wrong with her as she has gone to many, they are going to send her to the University for they think they may have to do a liver transplant. My call on this, i researched when she started to get sick it was when she started to remodel the home, they did not start from the foundation up but rather the middle and up. I believe the home is toxic and do not know if they actually corrected the problem or if the mold got a toe hold. They built a garage near the home without a curtain drain so now The home is still in the stud stage, i guess, she has lost 30 lbs in 2 weeks, 50 lbs since Jan 1st, and is not eating much but on a tremendous amt of antibiotics, which as you know, is made from yeast. I have tried to tell her but... she will not listen. I am at a loss. Everybody PooPoos this idea of mold. mary -- Original message from Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com: -- The katrina victims have a different problem than just formaldehyde. Dr Shoemaker went down there to help with the inevitable mold problem that was sure to erupt after the flooding, and he found many many people suffering from mold toxin related illness, before the trailers even got there. I am sure that many of them are unaware of the mold connection. There is a reliable, safe, simple vision test that will tell if a person has a biotoxin problem. Dr Shoemaker has it on his website, and has to have a nominal charge to cover his webcosts. It is only 15.00. On Feb 24, 2008, at 12:10 PM, Dan Nave wrote: Are you sure it is not from the effects formaldehyde poisoning, similar to that experienced by the Katrina victims in their new FEMA trailers? Dan You wrote: had just moved into a beautiful new flat Kirsteen Wright wrote: On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 4:03 PM, Scott wrote: Hi, Kirsteen. My name is Scott and I have been diagnosed with a myalgic condition that none of my doctors can figure out. This condition M.E. sounds a lot like what I have -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSPackaging and selling EIS
jlgregel wrote: Hi all...I've been curious about sellling some of the EIS I make. I purchased the big 5 gallon SilverGen to make EIS for a cat shelter I'm involved with. We are non-profit...and barely scrape by finanacially , like most shelters. If I could sell a bit of EIS, that would help offset the cost of the generator and buying all this distilled water. Any ideas of what a fair price would be to sell EIS by gallons or quarts? I'm in the Pacific Northwest (Washington State). Thanks much, Lin When I was selling it, I got $35 a gallon, and $15.95 a quart for it. Marshall - Original Message - *From:* Deborah Gerard mailto:devorah...@yahoo.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Saturday, February 23, 2008 6:44 AM *Subject:* Re: CSPackaging and selling EIS I know nothing about this at all...I know at the market people make all kinds of homemade stuff and there is no way for anykind of checking on them...BUT I want to do it the legal and right way people sell it on the internet too and I am wondering about those laws...thanks Faith hope you are having a great weekenddebbie */faith gagne jitte...@gis.net/* wrote: Does your local government require some sort of license for you to do that? Would the government, for example, allow you to make and sell your own aspirin? Just wondering. Faith G. - Original Message - *From:* Deborah Gerard mailto:devorah...@yahoo.com *To:* cs mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Saturday, February 23, 2008 9:24 AM *Subject:* CSPackaging and selling EIS My mom has been selling some EIS that I have been making at work. I am thinking about going to the farmers market this spring and trying to sell it there. Any words of advice or suggestions on packaging, labeling etc.? thanks in advance debbie Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51734/*http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51734/*http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSvarious conditions off topic
I use the Molecular Enhancer by Dan Dial. It truly is amazing mary -- Original message from Shirley Reed pj20fl...@gmail.com: -- In the Desideratum, John Wesley tells of a man deaf for 32 years being cured in one treatment (pg. 48). On pg. 63, a stroke victim is quickly cured of all symptoms, paralysis included. On pg 47, two cases of TB are cured very quickly. So I am wondering what electricity can do for this and that ailment. Other cases of deafness cures, eye healing , etc. are proffered. If anyone can 'decipher' the instrumentation used, please inform me. This should go to the OT list post haste. The claims of such cures rival and sometimes best, the range of conditions helped immensely by zappers, Beck blood purifiers, magnetic pulsers, battery/wire devices, etc. If anyone can find the other books/brochures mentioned by Wesley in the preface, I will appreciate the info. Such wonderful claims are, imho, worth further investigation and trial. See you on the OT list. pj
CSHave symptoms, need possible causes and solutions!
Hey, Group! I was woken up this morning aspirating on my own saliva. I grabbed a kleenex next to the bed and spit out this nasty, bile tasting stuff that was a blackish-brown color. This is about the third time this has happened in the past 3 years and I feel like I just fought a huge battle in the Octagon - cage fighting for those that don't know. My muscles ache, my bones feel brittle and I am very cold even though it is over 80 degrees in my home. I have a condition called Barrett's Esophagus and take Prilosec to help reduce the acid reflux that comes with the results of having a Hiatal Hernia that protrudes thru my diaphragm. The labs I have had over the past 5 years have shown slightly low white blood counts with everything else within normal ranges. I don't want to go back to my doctor as he just writes it off as all part of my GERD and writes me another acid-reducing Rx. I've been making and taking CS for the past two years and haven't had even a cold. Anyhow, what could this be and what, if anything at all, do you folks suggest I do? Scotty (Beam me up, Captain!) - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
CSImmune system booster? Or Autoimmune Disease
Morning Marshall, At 09:42 AM 2/25/2008, you wrote: See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_autoimmune_diseases for a list of about 50 of them. I looked at this link. It all sounds Mainstream to me. Even the first line, The causes of autoimmune diseases are still obscure tells us they are guessing and running around in circles. Many great doctors and scientists state, No Autoimmune disease exists. It certainly is a mainstream term and used instead of saying, We don't know and we don't have a clue. At best, it is a classification of a group of unknown diseases, causes, cures, and often even the symptoms. Further, I would put it ( Auto immune ) in the class with Federal Reserve and Fairness Doctrine Two words, two lies. Not to mention the committee that sits around thinking up names for disease. They worked long and hard to arrive at Fibromyalgia. I am surprised they do not have a name for people that write health messages, and quote from mainstream articles and lies, and then proclaim we are believers in Alternative methods. The fact is, most alternative ideas are so inflated with mainstream information, mainstream treatments, mainstream definitions, mainstream lies, and mainstream thinking, and mainstream studies ... they are all worthless. People believe all the junk and cannot tell the News, from the Truth, or from the Lies. And that was the plan, just like all politics that are taking place today. It has been planned 100 or more years. We are the victims, and some of us do not even know it. Wayne = faith gagne wrote: I think Boost is the totally appropriate word for something that provides support and assistance in protecting the body. I do not think that your own immune system would attack you unless you had AIDS or something. Your friend is splitting hairs.Faith G. There are many diseases caused by one's own immune system attacking your own tissues. Arthritis and lupus are just two of them. I am not aware of any evidence that AIDS is an autoimmune disease at all. Marshall - Original Message - *From:* Ian Davies mailto:blackyme...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Saturday, February 23, 2008 7:50 AM *Subject:* CSEIS Immune system booster? I have heard and read on many occasions that EIS boosts the immune system, as I found out last weekend, that is not desireable for some people. We had a visitor staying the weekend who suffers from Reumatoid Arthritis, I suggested that EIS might help for avoiding things like colds and flu. The term boost which I used in my description of EIS put her off immediately, you don't want to give strength to something that is attacking you. I would think that EIS does NOT boost the immune system, it simply deals with infections etc which the immune system would have to deal with if EIS was not used. Please correct me if I wrong!!! The argument may sound like picking too much at details or use of vocabulary but as I found out the word boost is not always desireable and I would like to think that what EIS does is to give you a secondary immune system and not boost the one we have which ultimately is the only cure for many ailments like the common cold. The boost that EIS gives to the immune system would be to reduce the workload but not to affect it directly. I would appreciate any comments and or clarification. Thank you Ian in Spain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsymptoms to kirstee,
Be aware that the lyme disease test is worthless. It will give false negatives a majority of the time. Marshall S-Max wrote: Kirsteen, Have you been tested for Lyme Disease? Do you know about it? Maybe worthwhile to just take a peek at all the Lyme Disease symptoms. Most everyone of us have Fibromyalgia. Rare that someone doesn't. Many were mis-diagnosed with Fibro, MS, ALS, Arthritis. CFS, and the list goes on. Sasha ---Original Message--- From: Kirsteen Wright I personally suspect that it may have been caused by exposure to an insecticide spray. July 2006 I was fit, healthy, working 12 hour shifts, excercising, decorating, moving house, extremely active. I had, over a couple of weeks, more that normal exposure to a spray containing pyriproxyfen and permethrin. I developed headaches, aches and pains, and became tired very quickly. ve been accused of not wanting to get well by people with no actual knowledge of M.E. but who are convinced their supplement is the new wonder cure-all. Kirsteen -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHave symptoms, need possible causes and solutions!
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 09:20:31 -0800 (PST), Scott wrote in 541927.50234...@web80002.mail.sp1.yahoo.com: Hey, Group! I was woken up this morning aspirating on my own saliva. I grabbed a kleenex next to the bed and spit out this nasty, bile tasting stuff that was a blackish-brown color. This is about the third time this has happened in the past 3 years and I feel like I just fought a huge battle in the Octagon - cage fighting for those that don't know. My muscles ache, my bones feel brittle and I am very cold even though it is over 80 degrees in my home. I have a condition called Barrett's Esophagus and take Prilosec to help reduce the acid reflux that comes with the results of having a Hiatal Hernia that protrudes thru my diaphragm. The labs I have had over the past 5 years have shown slightly low white blood counts with everything else within normal ranges. I don't want to go back to my doctor as he just writes it off as all part of my GERD and writes me another acid-reducing Rx. I've been making and taking CS for the past two years and haven't had even a cold. Anyhow, what could this be and what, if anything at all, do you folks suggest I do? Scotty (Beam me up, Captain!) Isn't there an operation that completely cures that problem? Heidrun Beer Workgroup for Fundamental Spiritual Research and Mental Training http://www.sgmt.at http://www.RecastReality.org -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEIS Immune system booster?
Okay, AIDS is an acquired immune deficiency caused by the virus HIV. Faith G. - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 10:42 AM Subject: Re: CSEIS Immune system booster? faith gagne wrote: I think Boost is the totally appropriate word for something that provides support and assistance in protecting the body. I do not think that your own immune system would attack you unless you had AIDS or something. Your friend is splitting hairs.Faith G. There are many diseases caused by one's own immune system attacking your own tissues. Arthritis and lupus are just two of them. I am not aware of any evidence that AIDS is an autoimmune disease at all. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_autoimmune_diseases for a list of about 50 of them. Marshall - Original Message - *From:* Ian Davies mailto:blackyme...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Saturday, February 23, 2008 7:50 AM *Subject:* CSEIS Immune system booster? I have heard and read on many occasions that EIS boosts the immune system, as I found out last weekend, that is not desireable for some people. We had a visitor staying the weekend who suffers from Reumatoid Arthritis, I suggested that EIS might help for avoiding things like colds and flu. The term boost which I used in my description of EIS put her off immediately, you don't want to give strength to something that is attacking you. I would think that EIS does NOT boost the immune system, it simply deals with infections etc which the immune system would have to deal with if EIS was not used. Please correct me if I wrong!!! The argument may sound like picking too much at details or use of vocabulary but as I found out the word boost is not always desireable and I would like to think that what EIS does is to give you a secondary immune system and not boost the one we have which ultimately is the only cure for many ailments like the common cold. The boost that EIS gives to the immune system would be to reduce the workload but not to affect it directly. I would appreciate any comments and or clarification. Thank you Ian in Spain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHave symptoms, need possible causes and solutions!
Scott, You might want to look-up the side effects for all medication you are on including the Prilosec. You need to correct the condition that is causing the acid reflux instead. It could be caused by too little acid. If you are cold all the time you might have low Thyroid. It sounds like you need a new doctor that uses holistic medicine. Brittle bones,-you need supplements! Paula - Original Message - From: Scott To: Silver List Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 12:20 PM Subject: CSHave symptoms, need possible causes and solutions! Hey, Group! I was woken up this morning aspirating on my own saliva. I grabbed a kleenex next to the bed and spit out this nasty, bile tasting stuff that was a blackish-brown color. This is about the third time this has happened in the past 3 years and I feel like I just fought a huge battle in the Octagon - cage fighting for those that don't know. My muscles ache, my bones feel brittle and I am very cold even though it is over 80 degrees in my home. I have a condition called Barrett's Esophagus and take Prilosec to help reduce the acid reflux that comes with the results of having a Hiatal Hernia that protrudes thru my diaphragm. The labs I have had over the past 5 years have shown slightly low white blood counts with everything else within normal ranges. I don't want to go back to my doctor as he just writes it off as all part of my GERD and writes me another acid-reducing Rx. I've been making and taking CS for the past two years and haven't had even a cold. Anyhow, what could this be and what, if anything at all, do you folks suggest I do? Scotty (Beam me up, Captain!) -- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
Re: CSvarious conditions off topic
What does a Molecular Enhancer do for you? Thanks Paula - Original Message - From: mborg...@att.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 11:58 AM Subject: Re: CSvarious conditions off topic I use the Molecular Enhancer by Dan Dial. It truly is amazing mary -- Original message from Shirley Reed pj20fl...@gmail.com: -- In the Desideratum, John Wesley tells of a man deaf for 32 years being cured in one treatment (pg. 48). On pg. 63, a stroke victim is quickly cured of all symptoms, paralysis included. On pg 47, two cases of TB are cured very quickly. So I am wondering what electricity can do for this and that ailment. Other cases of deafness cures, eye healing , etc. are proffered. If anyone can 'decipher' the instrumentation used, please inform me. This should go to the OT list post haste. The claims of such cures rival and sometimes best, the range of conditions helped immensely by zappers, Beck blood purifiers, magnetic pulsers, battery/wire devices, etc. If anyone can find the other books/brochures mentioned by Wesley in the preface, I will appreciat! e the i nfo. Such wonderful claims are, imho, worth further investigation and trial. See you on the OT list. pj
CSreceding gums
Thanks everyone for writing. I will work with some of the things mentioned. I have been brushing with baking soda and sea salt and then rinsing with deluted hydrogen peroxide. Once in a while I put some oregano oil on it. This keeps any infection away. It is only the one tooth that has the problem. It is not loose or bleeding or infected but I have to be very careful. It has been receded for years (at least 12). Just now it is worse because it has progressed over the years. I guess I would like it to grow back! I will try the oil pulling and using the CS more. Might try adding the DSMO if I can get past the fear factor. I also will order some of the MMS. Paula
CSEIS Immune system booster?
Thank you Marshall. It does not boost the immune system, it boosts immunity. Perfect. What would the suggested protocol be for the administration of the EIS? Ian in Spain Ian Davies wrote: I have heard and read on many occasions that EIS boosts the immune system, as I found out last weekend, that is not desireable for some people. We had a visitor staying the weekend who suffers from Reumatoid Arthritis, I suggested that EIS might help for avoiding things like colds and flu. The term boost which I used in my description of EIS put her off immediately, you don't want to give strength to something that is attacking you. I would think that EIS does NOT boost the immune system, it simply deals with infections etc which the immune system would have to deal with if EIS was not used. Please correct me if I wrong!!! It does not boost the immune system. It boosts immunity. That is, it has no direct effect on the body's immune system, but rather kills pathogens directly, helping relieve the immune system. I prefer to say it relieves the immune system than boosts it. If she is having her immune system attacking her joints, then that is easy to stop. A round of CMO should stop that pretty quickly. But CMO without killing the pathogens that get the body started attacking itself will be of limited effectiveness. She need to follow the protocol of: 1. kill the pathogens. IE EIS 2. Take CMO to reset the immune system 3. Take supplements to rebuild the joints. The argument may sound like picking too much at details or use of vocabulary but as I found out the word boost is not always desireable and I would like to think that what EIS does is to give you a secondary immune system and not boost the one we have which ultimately is the only cure for many ailments like the common cold. The boost that EIS gives to the immune system would be to reduce the workload but not to affect it directly. Yes, exactly. Marshall I would appreciate any comments and or clarification. Thank you Ian in Spain
Re: CSreceding gums
Have you had cleaning done ? I just returned from 1 hr. in the chair and that was for just one side. Go back for side 2 next week. Plaque buildup will cause loose teeth. Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsymptoms to kirstee,
mine was called a false positive On Feb 25, 2008, at 11:58 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote: Be aware that the lyme disease test is worthless. It will give false negatives a majority of the time. Marshall S-Max wrote: Kirsteen, Have you been tested for Lyme Disease? Do you know about it? Maybe worthwhile to just take a peek at all the Lyme Disease symptoms. Most -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSreceding gums
Paula, I wouldn't put the DSMO in your mouth. Try the MMS and let us know how it goes. Jess -Original Message- From: Paula Perry [mailto:p...@zoomnet.net] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 2:29 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSreceding gums Thanks everyone for writing. I will work with some of the things mentioned. I have been brushing with baking soda and sea salt and then rinsing with deluted hydrogen peroxide. Once in a while I put some oregano oil on it. This keeps any infection away. It is only the one tooth that has the problem. It is not loose or bleeding or infected but I have to be very careful. It has been receded for years (at least 12). Just now it is worse because it has progressed over the years. I guess I would like it to grow back! I will try the oil pulling and using the CS more. Might try adding the DSMO if I can get past the fear factor. I also will order some of the MMS. Paula
Re: CSreceding gums
I am going to try the MMS. I need to find out where to order it? Paula - Original Message - From: jessie70 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 2:57 PM Subject: RE: CSreceding gums Paula, I wouldn't put the DSMO in your mouth. Try the MMS and let us know how it goes. Jess -Original Message- From: Paula Perry [mailto:p...@zoomnet.net] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 2:29 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSreceding gums Thanks everyone for writing. I will work with some of the things mentioned. I have been brushing with baking soda and sea salt and then rinsing with deluted hydrogen peroxide. Once in a while I put some oregano oil on it. This keeps any infection away. It is only the one tooth that has the problem. It is not loose or bleeding or infected but I have to be very careful. It has been receded for years (at least 12). Just now it is worse because it has progressed over the years. I guess I would like it to grow back! I will try the oil pulling and using the CS more. Might try adding the DSMO if I can get past the fear factor. I also will order some of the MMS. Paula
Re: CSreceding gums
Smitty, Try the peroxide rinsing. It gets rid of the plaque. Just take hydrogen peroxide and mix one third to two thirds water. Swish around and spit out. Then you want to go around the tooth with a dental stick. It will prevent you from having those horrible cleanings. I did have mine cleaned last week but it only took 10 minutes for the whole mouth. Paula - Original Message - From: Smitty papad...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 2:51 PM Subject: Re: CSreceding gums Have you had cleaning done ? I just returned from 1 hr. in the chair and that was for just one side. Go back for side 2 next week. Plaque buildup will cause loose teeth. Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSsymptoms to kirstee,
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:16 PM, S-Max s...@emotap.com wrote: Kirsteen, Have you been tested for Lyme Disease? Do you know about it? Maybe worthwhile to just take a peek at all the Lyme Disease symptoms. Most everyone of us have Fibromyalgia. Rare that someone doesn't. Many were mis-diagnosed with Fibro, MS, ALS, Arthritis. CFS, and the list goes on. Sasha No I haven't been tested for it. I'm in the UK so I can't decide what tests I'll have, only my GP. In saying that he's been very good. We did discuss Lyme disease and I read a lot about it but didn't really feel my symptoms fit it. Kirsteen
Re: CSvarious conditions off topic
Gives me huge amts of energy. gets rid of wrinkles, cellulite. I had receding gums from an accident, the machine has stopped it from receding any further. I had a friend who has edema and within 1 hr it was gone from both legs we were both shocked. It does much much more but you know we are not allowed to say. I am 65, Clean houses for 10 clients most 3000 sq ft. homes so I need the energy, I do not do it for the money but rather as a need to regain my abilities and learn how to organize again. I was involved in a accident where I could not walk,talk,read,write, watch tv or listen to the radio,due to a severe brain injury, I litterly ended up in my closet until a neur doc found me and lifted me from hell. they told me I must take drugs, I would not, they told me I would never recover,I did. They wanted to put me into a mental institution, I said no. I now have most of everything back with the help of magnesium oil and this machine. Thanks for your interest Mary -- Original message from Paula Perry p...@zoomnet.net: -- What does a Molecular Enhancer do for you? Thanks Paula - Original Message - From: mborg...@att.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 11:58 AM Subject: Re: CSvarious conditions off topic I use the Molecular Enhancer by Dan Dial. It truly is amazing mary -- Original message from Shirley Reed pj20fl...@gmail.com: -- In the Desideratum, John Wesley tells of a man deaf for 32 years being cured in one treatment (pg. 48). On pg. 63, a stroke victim is quickly cured of all symptoms, paralysis included. On pg 47, two cases of TB are cured very quickly. So I am wondering what electricity can do for this and that ailment. Other cases of deafness cures, eye healing , etc. are proffered. If anyone can 'decipher' the instrumentation used, please inform me. This should go to the OT list post haste. The claims of such cures rival and sometimes best, the range of conditions helped immensely by zappers, Beck blood purifiers, magnetic pulsers, battery/wire devices, etc. If anyone can find the other books/brochures mentioned by Wesley in the preface, I will appreciat! e the i nfo. Such wonderful claims are, imho, worth further investigation and trial. See you on the OT list. pj
Re: CSPackaging and selling EIS
We went by the local health food store today and my husband checked out cs/eis that they were selling and said they had a tag of $50 on a bottle of 8oz. I don't know what ppm's it was. Dianne - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudleymailto:mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 11:35 AM Subject: Re: CSPackaging and selling EIS jlgregel wrote: Hi all...I've been curious about sellling some of the EIS I make. I purchased the big 5 gallon SilverGen to make EIS for a cat shelter I'm involved with. We are non-profit...and barely scrape by finanacially , like most shelters. If I could sell a bit of EIS, that would help offset the cost of the generator and buying all this distilled water. Any ideas of what a fair price would be to sell EIS by gallons or quarts? I'm in the Pacific Northwest (Washington State). Thanks much, Lin When I was selling it, I got $35 a gallon, and $15.95 a quart for it. Marshall - Original Message - *From:* Deborah Gerard mailto:devorah...@yahoo.commailto:devorah...@yahoo.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Saturday, February 23, 2008 6:44 AM *Subject:* Re: CSPackaging and selling EIS I know nothing about this at all...I know at the market people make all kinds of homemade stuff and there is no way for anykind of checking on them...BUT I want to do it the legal and right way people sell it on the internet too and I am wondering about those laws...thanks Faith hope you are having a great weekenddebbie */faith gagne jitte...@gis.net/mailto:jitte...@gis.net%3e/* wrote: Does your local government require some sort of license for you to do that? Would the government, for example, allow you to make and sell your own aspirin? Just wondering. Faith G. - Original Message - *From:* Deborah Gerard mailto:devorah...@yahoo.commailto:devorah...@yahoo.com *To:* cs mailto:silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Saturday, February 23, 2008 9:24 AM *Subject:* CSPackaging and selling EIS My mom has been selling some EIS that I have been making at work. I am thinking about going to the farmers market this spring and trying to sell it there. Any words of advice or suggestions on packaging, labeling etc.? thanks in advance debbie Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51734/*http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shoppinghttp://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51734/*http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51734/*http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shoppinghttp://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51734/*http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.orghttp://silverlist.org/ To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.commailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.commailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRe: 100 yr plan
And that was the plan, just like all politics that are taking place today. It has been planned 100 or more years. We are the victims, and some of us do not even know it. Wayne = My husband told me there was a book he read once by the Jn Brk society that describes much of what is happening. I told him I would like to read it but he said I would be put on a list if I ordered it if I could get it. That sounded ominous to me so that is one of the reasons I didn't spell it out. If someone tracks names or titles I didn't want to be put on a list. Dianne faith gagne wrote: I think Boost is the totally appropriate word for something that provides support and assistance in protecting the body. I do not think that your own immune system would attack you unless you had AIDS or something. Your friend is splitting hairs.Faith G. There are many diseases caused by one's own immune system attacking your own tissues. Arthritis and lupus are just two of them. I am not aware of any evidence that AIDS is an autoimmune disease at all. Marshall - Original Message - *From:* Ian Davies mailto:blackyme...@gmail.commailto:blackyme...@gmail.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Saturday, February 23, 2008 7:50 AM *Subject:* CSEIS Immune system booster? I have heard and read on many occasions that EIS boosts the immune system, as I found out last weekend, that is not desireable for some people. We had a visitor staying the weekend who suffers from Reumatoid Arthritis, I suggested that EIS might help for avoiding things like colds and flu. The term boost which I used in my description of EIS put her off immediately, you don't want to give strength to something that is attacking you. I would think that EIS does NOT boost the immune system, it simply deals with infections etc which the immune system would have to deal with if EIS was not used. Please correct me if I wrong!!! The argument may sound like picking too much at details or use of vocabulary but as I found out the word boost is not always desireable and I would like to think that what EIS does is to give you a secondary immune system and not boost the one we have which ultimately is the only cure for many ailments like the common cold. The boost that EIS gives to the immune system would be to reduce the workload but not to affect it directly. I would appreciate any comments and or clarification. Thank you Ian in Spain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.orghttp://silverlist.org/ To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.commailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.commailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.commailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSreceding gums
I'm more afraid of an infected tooth and gum than I am of DMSO, for sure... Plus, it is not nearly as nasty as hydrogen peroxide, that is, if you have any taste buds. Dan From: Paula Perry [mailto:p...@zoomnet.net] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 1:29 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSreceding gums Thanks everyone for writing. I will work with some of the things mentioned. I have been brushing with baking soda and sea salt and then rinsing with deluted hydrogen peroxide. Once in a while I put some oregano oil on it. This keeps any infection away. It is only the one tooth that has the problem. It is not loose or bleeding or infected but I have to be very careful. It has been receded for years (at least 12). Just now it is worse because it has progressed over the years. I guess I would like it to grow back! I will try the oil pulling and using the CS more. Might try adding the DSMO if I can get past the fear factor. I also will order some of the MMS. Paula
CS100 yr plan, Visit from the nice and polite FEDS
Evening Dianne, At 03:41 PM 2/25/2008, you wrote: I told him I would like to read it but he said I would be put on a list if I ordered it if I could get it. I ordered a publication, about 1970, and in less than a week, the FEDS were knocking on my door. They did come to the office, well dressed, well mannered, nice and polite. I answered all their questions and they were happy. Darn ! That sounded ominous to me so that is one of the reasons I didn't spell it out. If someone tracks names or titles I didn't want to be put on a list. You may not have read about the world list that is in different colors. Some guys that work on the computers found their name on the list, ... with the BAD COLOR. Likely we are on many lists already. Will one more matter ? Wayne === -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSreceding gums
Paula, make sure your getting enough Vitamin C!! Monday, February 25, 2008 Get Enough Vitamin C Signs that you may be deficient (HealthDay News) - Vitamin C is an antioxidant that's found primarily in citrus fruits, leafy green vegetables, broccoli, potatoes and other fruits and veggies. Significant enough vitamin C deficiency can lead to a condition called scurvy. Here are warning signs that you're not getting enough vitamin C, courtesy of the U.S. National Library of Medicine: a.. Excessively dry hair with ends that split easily. b.. Scaly, rough, dry skin. c.. Bleeding or inflamed gums. d.. Wounds that heal slowly, frequent infections, and bruising easily. e.. Frequent nosebleeds. f.. Pain and swelling in the joints. g.. Anemia. h.. Weakened tooth enamel. - Original Message - From: Dan Nave To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 4:01 PM Subject: RE: CSreceding gums I'm more afraid of an infected tooth and gum than I am of DMSO, for sure... Plus, it is not nearly as nasty as hydrogen peroxide, that is, if you have any taste buds. Dan From: Paula Perry [mailto:p...@zoomnet.net] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 1:29 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSreceding gums Thanks everyone for writing. I will work with some of the things mentioned. I have been brushing with baking soda and sea salt and then rinsing with deluted hydrogen peroxide. Once in a while I put some oregano oil on it. This keeps any infection away. It is only the one tooth that has the problem. It is not loose or bleeding or infected but I have to be very careful. It has been receded for years (at least 12). Just now it is worse because it has progressed over the years. I guess I would like it to grow back! I will try the oil pulling and using the CS more. Might try adding the DSMO if I can get past the fear factor. I also will order some of the MMS. Paula -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1297 - Release Date: 2/25/2008 9:22 AM eclear.gif
Re: CSreceding gums
Quite some years ago, I read quite a few articles on the connection between gluten intolerance and receding gums. When having receding gums, it's apparently an indication of gluten tolerance , often overlooked if other symptoms of this intolerance are not apparent. Do a google search.. Hanneke -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEIS Immune system booster?
I would take orally, one or more oucnes at a time, depending on severity. I would also add about 1/2 teaspoon of H2O2 per gallon of EIS to enhance its effectiveness. Marshall Ian Davies wrote: Thank you Marshall. It does not boost the immune system, it boosts immunity. Perfect. What would the suggested protocol be for the administration of the EIS? Ian in Spain Ian Davies wrote: I have heard and read on many occasions that EIS boosts the immune system, as I found out last weekend, that is not desireable for some people. We had a visitor staying the weekend who suffers from Reumatoid Arthritis, I suggested that EIS might help for avoiding things like colds and flu. The term boost which I used in my description of EIS put her off immediately, you don't want to give strength to something that is attacking you. I would think that EIS does NOT boost the immune system, it simply deals with infections etc which the immune system would have to deal with if EIS was not used. Please correct me if I wrong!!! It does not boost the immune system. It boosts immunity. That is, it has no direct effect on the body's immune system, but rather kills pathogens directly, helping relieve the immune system. I prefer to say it relieves the immune system than boosts it. If she is having her immune system attacking her joints, then that is easy to stop. A round of CMO should stop that pretty quickly. But CMO without killing the pathogens that get the body started attacking itself will be of limited effectiveness. She need to follow the protocol of: 1. kill the pathogens. IE EIS 2. Take CMO to reset the immune system 3. Take supplements to rebuild the joints. The argument may sound like picking too much at details or use of vocabulary but as I found out the word boost is not always desireable and I would like to think that what EIS does is to give you a secondary immune system and not boost the one we have which ultimately is the only cure for many ailments like the common cold. The boost that EIS gives to the immune system would be to reduce the workload but not to affect it directly. Yes, exactly. Marshall I would appreciate any comments and or clarification. Thank you Ian in Spain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSreceding gums
That should have read: an indication of gluten INtolerance. Hanneke When having receding gums, it's apparently an indication of gluten tolerance -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSreceding gums
I think untreated diabetes is also a cause of gum recession. - Original Message - From: Hanneke bloss...@aapt.net.au To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 4:25 PM Subject: Re: CSreceding gums Quite some years ago, I read quite a few articles on the connection between gluten intolerance and receding gums. When having receding gums, it's apparently an indication of gluten tolerance , often overlooked if other symptoms of this intolerance are not apparent. Do a google search.. Hanneke -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1297 - Release Date: 2/25/2008 9:22 AM
Re: CS100 yr plan, Visit from the nice and polite FEDS
Evening Wayne, So, what was the book, you can use asterisks or other letters to break up the words... Something on x-pulocives? Dan Wayne Fugitt wrote: Evening Dianne, At 03:41 PM 2/25/2008, you wrote: I told him I would like to read it but he said I would be put on a list if I ordered it if I could get it. I ordered a publication, about 1970, and in less than a week, the FEDS were knocking on my door. They did come to the office, well dressed, well mannered, nice and polite. I answered all their questions and they were happy. Darn ! That sounded ominous to me so that is one of the reasons I didn't spell it out. If someone tracks names or titles I didn't want to be put on a list. You may not have read about the world list that is in different colors. Some guys that work on the computers found their name on the list, ... with the BAD COLOR. Likely we are on many lists already. Will one more matter ? Wayne === -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSreceding gums
Paula, are you using food grade hydrogen peroxide or the regular stuff? Jess -Original Message- From: Paula Perry [mailto:p...@zoomnet.net] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 3:29 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSreceding gums Smitty, Try the peroxide rinsing. It gets rid of the plaque. Just take hydrogen peroxide and mix one third to two thirds water. Swish around and spit out. Then you want to go around the tooth with a dental stick. It will prevent you from having those horrible cleanings. I did have mine cleaned last week but it only took 10 minutes for the whole mouth. Paula - Original Message - From: Smitty papad...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 2:51 PM Subject: Re: CSreceding gums Have you had cleaning done ? I just returned from 1 hr. in the chair and that was for just one side. Go back for side 2 next week. Plaque buildup will cause loose teeth. Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS100 yr plan, Visit from the nice and polite FEDS
Evening Dan, At 05:40 PM 2/25/2008, you wrote: So, what was the book, you can use asterisks or other letters to break up the words... Something on x-pulocives? I am already on the list, and likely many more. I said a document, maybe I should have said a publication. All it was .. was a patent copy. Public information. Anyone can get one, no problem. Even if you are an inventor, and do patent searches regularly, there are some things they feel we should not know about. Even if we are working on an invention just for the benefit of the government, they may not consider this of value and a right to information. I still hesitate to say what this device was / is and its intended use. Yet today it is legal in some states. No matter to some powers and departments. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSvarious conditions off topic
Dan Dial created this Tesla type device a good number of years ago. Expensive but effective, as I've followed it thru the years. http://www.dansenhancerpages.com/ $2500 machine. It CAN be homemade, but you're dealing with 10,000 volts or better. Chuck I find it hard to sit still in one spot, and impossible to sit still in two spots On 2/25/2008 4:21:23 PM, mborg...@att.net wrote: Gives me huge amts of energy. gets rid of wrinkles, cellulite. I had receding gums from an accident, the machine has stopped it from receding any further. I had a friend who has edema and within 1 hr it was gone from both legs we were both shocked. It does much much more but you know we are not allowed to say. I am 65, Clean houses for 10 clients most 3000 sq ft. homes so I need the energy, I do not do it for the money but rather as a need to regain my abilities and learn how to organize again. I was involved in a accident -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSvarious conditions off topic
Chuck, have you ever tried one or do you know anyone who has? Jess -Original Message- From: cking...@nycap.rr.com [mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 7:19 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSvarious conditions off topic Dan Dial created this Tesla type device a good number of years ago. Expensive but effective, as I've followed it thru the years. http://www.dansenhancerpages.com/ $2500 machine. It CAN be homemade, but you're dealing with 10,000 volts or better. Chuck I find it hard to sit still in one spot, and impossible to sit still in two spots On 2/25/2008 4:21:23 PM, mborg...@att.net wrote: Gives me huge amts of energy. gets rid of wrinkles, cellulite. I had receding gums from an accident, the machine has stopped it from receding any further. I had a friend who has edema and within 1 hr it was gone from both legs we were both shocked. It does much much more but you know we are not allowed to say. I am 65, Clean houses for 10 clients most 3000 sq ft. homes so I need the energy, I do not do it for the money but rather as a need to regain my abilities and learn how to organize again. I was involved in a accident -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPackaging and selling EIS
I sell mine for $50 gallon and $8 for 8 0z. boston round plastic bottle. All political parties die at last of swallowing their own lies-- John Arbuthnot - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 11:35 AM Subject: Re: CSPackaging and selling EIS jlgregel wrote: Hi all...I've been curious about sellling some of the EIS I make. I purchased the big 5 gallon SilverGen to make EIS for a cat shelter I'm involved with. We are non-profit...and barely scrape by finanacially , like most shelters. If I could sell a bit of EIS, that would help offset the cost of the generator and buying all this distilled water. Any ideas of what a fair price would be to sell EIS by gallons or quarts? I'm in the Pacific Northwest (Washington State). Thanks much, Lin When I was selling it, I got $35 a gallon, and $15.95 a quart for it. Marshall - Original Message - *From:* Deborah Gerard mailto:devorah...@yahoo.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Saturday, February 23, 2008 6:44 AM *Subject:* Re: CSPackaging and selling EIS I know nothing about this at all...I know at the market people make all kinds of homemade stuff and there is no way for anykind of checking on them...BUT I want to do it the legal and right way people sell it on the internet too and I am wondering about those laws...thanks Faith hope you are having a great weekenddebbie */faith gagne jitte...@gis.net/* wrote: Does your local government require some sort of license for you to do that? Would the government, for example, allow you to make and sell your own aspirin? Just wondering. Faith G. - Original Message - *From:* Deborah Gerard mailto:devorah...@yahoo.com *To:* cs mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Saturday, February 23, 2008 9:24 AM *Subject:* CSPackaging and selling EIS My mom has been selling some EIS that I have been making at work. I am thinking about going to the farmers market this spring and trying to sell it there. Any words of advice or suggestions on packaging, labeling etc.? thanks in advance debbie Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51734/*http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51734/*http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPackaging and selling EIS
Health food stores are dumbasses. They price it so high that no one will buy enough. I make them sell mine for less than $15 for 8 oz. or find another supplier or bottle their own. All political parties die at last of swallowing their own lies-- John Arbuthnot - Original Message - From: Dianne France To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 4:26 PM Subject: Re: CSPackaging and selling EIS We went by the local health food store today and my husband checked out cs/eis that they were selling and said they had a tag of $50 on a bottle of 8oz. I don't know what ppm's it was. Dianne - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 11:35 AM Subject: Re: CSPackaging and selling EIS jlgregel wrote: Hi all...I've been curious about sellling some of the EIS I make. I purchased the big 5 gallon SilverGen to make EIS for a cat shelter I'm involved with. We are non-profit...and barely scrape by finanacially , like most shelters. If I could sell a bit of EIS, that would help offset the cost of the generator and buying all this distilled water. Any ideas of what a fair price would be to sell EIS by gallons or quarts? I'm in the Pacific Northwest (Washington State). Thanks much, Lin When I was selling it, I got $35 a gallon, and $15.95 a quart for it. Marshall - Original Message - *From:* Deborah Gerard mailto:devorah...@yahoo.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Saturday, February 23, 2008 6:44 AM *Subject:* Re: CSPackaging and selling EIS I know nothing about this at all...I know at the market people make all kinds of homemade stuff and there is no way for anykind of checking on them...BUT I want to do it the legal and right way people sell it on the internet too and I am wondering about those laws...thanks Faith hope you are having a great weekenddebbie */faith gagne jitte...@gis.net/* wrote: Does your local government require some sort of license for you to do that? Would the government, for example, allow you to make and sell your own aspirin? Just wondering. Faith G. - Original Message - *From:* Deborah Gerard mailto:devorah...@yahoo.com *To:* cs mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Saturday, February 23, 2008 9:24 AM *Subject:* CSPackaging and selling EIS My mom has been selling some EIS that I have been making at work. I am thinking about going to the farmers market this spring and trying to sell it there. Any words of advice or suggestions on packaging, labeling etc.? thanks in advance debbie Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51734/*http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=51734/*http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSvarious conditions off topic
You are right it is hard to sit still in one spot for too long while on the machine for the energy generated is so effective, it last all day or until 5pm. I usually can only sit still for 1/2 an hr. But it has helped many. mary -- Original message from cking...@nycap.rr.com: -- Dan Dial created this Tesla type device a good number of years ago. Expensive but effective, as I've followed it thru the years. http://www.dansenhancerpages.com/ $2500 machine. It CAN be homemade, but you're dealing with 10,000 volts or better. Chuck I find it hard to sit still in one spot, and impossible to sit still in two spots On 2/25/2008 4:21:23 PM, mborg...@att.net wrote: Gives me huge amts of energy. gets rid of wrinkles, cellulite. I had receding gums from an accident, the machine has stopped it from receding any further. I had a friend who has edema and within 1 hr it was gone from both legs we were both shocked. It does much much more but you know we are not allowed to say. I am 65, Clean houses for 10 clients most 3000 sq ft. homes so I need the energy, I do not do it for the money but rather as a need to regain my abilities and learn how to organize again. I was involved in a accident -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSHave symptoms, need possible causes and solutions!
No. I know someone who believed that, had the surgery, and it had no effect. On Feb 25, 2008, at 12:00 PM, Heidrun Beer wrote: On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 09:20:31 -0800 (PST), Scott wrote in 541927.50234...@web80002.mail.sp1.yahoo.com: Hey, Group! I was woken up this morning aspirating on my own saliva. I grabbed a kleenex next to the bed and spit out this nasty, bile tasting stuff that was a blackish-brown color. This is about the third time this has happened in the past 3 years and I feel like I just fought a huge battle in the Octagon - cage fighting for those that don't know. My muscles ache, my bones feel brittle and I am very cold even though it is over 80 degrees in my home. I have a condition called Barrett's Esophagus and take Prilosec to help reduce the acid reflux that comes with the results of having a Hiatal Hernia that protrudes thru my diaphragm. The labs I have had over the past 5 years have shown slightly low white blood counts with everything else within normal ranges. I don't want to go back to my doctor as he just writes it off as all part of my GERD and writes me another acid-reducing Rx. I've been making and taking CS for the past two years and haven't had even a cold. Anyhow, what could this be and what, if anything at all, do you folks suggest I do? Scotty (Beam me up, Captain!) Isn't there an operation that completely cures that problem? Heidrun Beer Workgroup for Fundamental Spiritual Research and Mental Training http://www.sgmt.at http://www.RecastReality.org -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSvarious conditions off topic
Tracy of the now defunct mr tracys corner list used one regularly as he helped volunteers that would stay with him for a month at a time. It was among about twenty modalities that he used and advocated. He's kinda a healing missionary. Quite a personality. The enhancer was common knowledge and used among members of various tesla and rife lists. all posted experiences were good. I have no personal experience, but was always tempted. I'm sure google will come up with a lot. Bruce Stenulson is another who has a site dealing with similar devices http://www.stenulson.net/ Be prepared for an unusual education. Chuck I have a mind like a steel trap; whatever goes in gets crushed and mangled! On 2/25/2008 7:31:25 PM, jessie70 (jessi...@optonline.net) wrote: Chuck, have you ever tried one or do you know anyone who has? Jess -Original Message- From: cking...@nycap.rr.com [mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com] Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 7:19 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSvarious conditions off topic Dan Dial created this Tesla type device a good number of years ago. Expensive but effective, as I've followed it thru the years. http://www.dansenhancerpages.com/ $2500 machine. It CAN be homemade, but you're dealing with 10,000 volts or -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CS[Fwd: Subscribe]
Original Message Subject:Subscribe Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 11:21:33 -0500 From: Bruce Anderson bande65...@btes.tv To: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com, silver-list@eskimo.com, Bruce Anderson bande65...@btes.tv -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSteeth to paula and a question for the group
Paula, I have been using something called allimed for a chronic infection that I acquired in my jawbone due to infected dental implants that had to be removed. I heard about it from a lyme doctor who said that they had some success with it with lyme patients. You have to order it and it is expensive but I think it is a very good antimicrobial and anti fungal. I just recently started using it and it seems to work well for my jaw. I have a feeling that this infection in my jaw is going to be long term for me and I need something I can tolerate. I know of a lyme patient that said it has cured her thrush .she was using nystatin rinse that was doing nothing for her. I tried oregano and it didnt do much for me with the jaw infection but burn like anything. I have read good results from others about oregano however. Have you tried the carvacol oregano? A question for anyone in the group. I use alternatives with my dog for most things. I have found herbals effective for ear infections and I also give my dog high quality food. I took her to the vet today and I was told that heart worm is becoming a big problem and can carry risks to humans now. I keep my dog flea free by using a flea comb and vacuuming the carpet daily. Because she is a small dog and rarely goes outside and we have no cats, fleas have never been a problem so I dont use advantage because the dog sleeps in my bed and I know that this advantage stuff can get in your enviroment. I am however worried about heart worm and some other parasites that seem to be emerging with pets. does anyone have any suggestions for heartworm or should I just bite the bullet and give her the pill? Also any natural suggestions for fleas would be helpful as my vet doesnt think I am doing my dog justice by refusing advantage. I hate giving my dog a pill that is an internal insecticide. Thanks to everyone who has answered my questions in the past. - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
Re: CSsymptoms to kirsteen
From: Kirsteen Wright I personally suspect that it may have been caused by exposure to an insecticide spray. July 2006 I was fit, healthy, working 12 hour shifts, excercising, decorating, moving house, extremely active. I had, over a couple of weeks, more that normal exposure to a spray containing pyriproxyfen and permethrin. I developed headaches, aches and pains, and became tired very quickly. Kirsteen- Stress can cause a lot of health problems, in addition to the pesticide exposure. Some types of chemical exposures can only be removed by saunas/ heat and sweating. http://lifestylelaboratory.com/articles/rogers-saunas-vs-toxins-pt1.html Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHave symptoms, need possible causes and solutions!
Me too. I tried DR Mercolas treatment about six months ago. Heart burn was tough for the first two months even taking tagmet every day. I found that I had to avoid or limit certain foods that cause heart burn, all the good pies. Now I can try some pie for lunch and live with a slight heart burn, if it gets too bad I use Pepcid Complete. I got rid of my extra pillows and raised bed, not needed anymore. I still drink water or tea/coffee with lemon juice and ACVinegar. I had to have my esophagus expanded three times because food would not go through. I am 76 years old. Try DR Mercolas heartburn/GERDS treatment. It helped me. Brickey In a message dated 2/25/2008 10:34:07 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, p...@zoomnet.net writes: I have a condition called Barrett's Esophagus and take Prilosec to help reduce the acid reflux that comes with the results of having a Hiatal Hernia that protrudes thru my diaphragm. The labs I have had over the past 5 years have shown slightly low white blood counts with everything else within normal ranges. I don't want to go back to my doctor as he just writes it off as all part of my GERD and writes me another **Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598)
Re: CSvarious conditions off topic
I have Googled the Molecular Enhancer. It looks interesting. Where did you get yours? Gayla Roberts Always Enough Ranch Acampo, California http://bouncinghoofs.com/alwaysenough.html aera...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: mborg...@att.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 1:21 PM Subject: Re: CSvarious conditions off topic Gives me huge amts of energy. gets rid of wrinkles, cellulite.