Re: CSWater and Salt Confusion

2008-05-09 Thread Dee
Your probably right Wayne.  I only drink a pint or so and seem to be ok on
that, but then, I don't do an awful lot of exercise either.  Again, horses
for courses.  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Wayne Fugitt
Date: 08/05/2008 20:21:11
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSWater and Salt Confusion
 
Evening Dee,

 At 10:10 AM 5/8/2008, you wrote:


Well, I read that over eight glasses is too much (I think) I seem to
remember this because this is the amount most seem to recommend.  Trouble is
 I read so many things, that unless I am looking into that particular thing
at the time, I just remember snippets.

Even if you remember all of it, confusion still exists.   Many reasons exist
for the confusion.

The mainstream, and these doctors say one thing and alternative people say
another.

Many different numbers exist for the MDR or RDA.  

Re: CSNebulizer comparison and recommendation.

2008-05-09 Thread Dee
Thanks very much for that information David.  You are probably right about
the expense; everything here in the UK is a rip off!  Thanks again, I will
look it up.  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: da...@alchemysa.com.au
Date: 09/05/2008 04:31:19
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSNebulizer comparison and recommendation.
 
Hello Dee
 
Mine came from the US. It came with a 120v to 13.5v/1000mA DC
adaptor.   That adaptor is no use here in Australia so I had to buy
my own 240v to 12v DC /1000mA adaptor. (About $20).  You will notice
that my output DC voltage is slightly different but it seems to have
worked fine for two years.
 
If you are in the UK note that there is a Medisana branch over there.
The prices are a lot more expensive than the US but I guess its got
the correct adaptor.
http://medisanauk.shoppinglinx.co.uk/
 
David
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Re: CSNebulizer comparison and recommendation.

2008-05-09 Thread Dee
I have found one on Amazon which is really reasonable so I think I will get
that.  Could you tell me how much CS you have to put in please?  Many thanks
  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
 
From: da...@alchemysa.com.au
Date: 09/05/2008 04:31:19
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSNebulizer comparison and recommendation.
 
Hello Dee
 
Mine came from the US. It came with a 120v to 13.5v/1000mA DC
adaptor.   That adaptor is no use here in Australia so I had to buy
my own 240v to 12v DC /1000mA adaptor. (About $20).  You will notice
that my output DC voltage is slightly different but it seems to have
worked fine for two years.
 
If you are in the UK note that there is a Medisana branch over there.
The prices are a lot more expensive than the US but I guess its got
the correct adaptor.
http://medisanauk.shoppinglinx.co.uk/
 
David
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Re: CSWater and Salt Confusion

2008-05-09 Thread Faith Gagne
Your body needs water for everything it does 24 hours a day.  Your body needs 
water to function at all.  Your body even needs water to breathe.  Try fogging 
up a mirror with no water in your system.  Faith G.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Dee 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 7:47 AM
  Subject: Re: CSWater and Salt Confusion


Your probably right Wayne.  I only drink a pint or so and seem to be ok 
on that, but then, I don't do an awful lot of exercise either.  Again, horses 
for courses.  Dee 

---Original Message---

From: Wayne Fugitt
Date: 08/05/2008 20:21:11
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSWater and Salt Confusion

Evening Dee,

 At 10:10 AM 5/8/2008, you wrote:


Well, I read that over eight glasses is too much (I think) I seem to 
remember this because this is the amount most seem to recommend.  Trouble is, I 
read so many things, that unless I am looking into that particular thing at the 
time, I just remember snippets.

Even if you remember all of it, confusion still exists.   Many reasons 
exist for the confusion.

The mainstream, and these doctors say one thing and alternative people 
say another.

Many different numbers exist for the MDR or RDA.  

   
  
   


Re: CSWater and Salt Confusion

2008-05-09 Thread Dee
I think this has to be obvious, but I also think that if more water is
needed this is the reason we feel thirsty.  If you don't feel thirsty then I
wouldn't have thought it would be necessary to drink; the same as if you are
not hungry, then you don't (or shouldn't), eat.  Isn't there something about
overloading kidneys if you drink too much?  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Faith Gagne
Date: 09/05/2008 13:39:45
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSWater and Salt Confusion
 
Your body needs water for everything it does 24 hours a day.  Your body
needs water to function at all.  Your body even needs water to breathe.  Try
fogging up a mirror with no water in your system.  Faith G.
 
 

RE: CSAmounts of water to drink + Salt Confusion

2008-05-09 Thread Judy K
What is enough water?
Recommendations are: 1/2 ounce per day of body weight in pounds.
If someone weighs 300 pounds, would you believe he could maintain
hydration as easily as someone weighing 100 pounds?
This is not rocket science, folks -- it's common sense! Forget 8
glasses.
Deal with the body volume!
Judy Down Maine


-Original Message-
From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org]
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 7:48 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSWater and Salt Confusion


  Your probably right Wayne.  I only drink a pint or so and
seem to be ok on that, but then, I don't do an awful lot of
exercise either.  Again, horses for courses.  Dee

  ---Original Message---

  From: Wayne Fugitt
  Date: 08/05/2008 20:21:11
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: CSWater and Salt Confusion

  Evening Dee,

   At 10:10 AM 5/8/2008, you wrote:


  Well, I read that over eight glasses is too much (I think) I
seem to remember this because this is the amount most seem to
recommend.  Trouble is, I read so many things, that unless I am
looking into that particular thing at the time, I just remember
snippets.

  Even if you remember all of it, confusion still exists.
Many reasons exist for the confusion.

  The mainstream, and these doctors say one thing and
alternative people say another.

  Many different numbers exist for the MDR or RDA.





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Re: CSWater and Salt Confusion

2008-05-09 Thread Faith Gagne
How does one overload the kidneys?  The kidney processes water and empties it 
out constantly.  Drink and pee.  People can go to the doctor feeling ill, 
tired, and just plain sick only to discover that they were dehydrated!  They 
were thirsty and didn't know it.  You don't have to feel parched to need water. 
 Drinking water helps tremendously to wash out those pesky flu bugs in your 
system when you get the flu, etc..  But hey, if you don't want to drink water 
then don't drink water.  The end..   Faith G.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dee 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 8:48 AM
  Subject: Re: CSWater and Salt Confusion


I think this has to be obvious, but I also think that if more water is 
needed this is the reason we feel thirsty.  If you don't feel thirsty then I 
wouldn't have thought it would be necessary to drink; the same as if you are 
not hungry, then you don't (or shouldn't), eat.  Isn't there something about 
overloading kidneys if you drink too much?  Dee 

---Original Message---

From: Faith Gagne
Date: 09/05/2008 13:39:45
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSWater and Salt Confusion

Your body needs water for everything it does 24 hours a day.  Your body 
needs water to function at all.  Your body even needs water to breathe.  Try 
fogging up a mirror with no water in your system.  Faith G.


   
  
   


Re: CSAmounts of water to drink + Salt Confusion

2008-05-09 Thread Faith Gagne
That is only one recommendation.  It is not difficult to maintain hydration no 
matter what one weighs.  Faith G.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Judy K 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:05 AM
  Subject: RE: CSAmounts of water to drink + Salt Confusion


  What is enough water?
  Recommendations are: 1/2 ounce per day of body weight in pounds.
  If someone weighs 300 pounds, would you believe he could maintain
  hydration as easily as someone weighing 100 pounds?
  This is not rocket science, folks -- it's common sense! Forget 8 glasses.
  Deal with the body volume!
  Judy Down Maine


  -Original Message-
  From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org]
  Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 7:48 AM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSWater and Salt Confusion


Your probably right Wayne.  I only drink a pint or so and seem to be ok 
on that, but then, I don't do an awful lot of exercise either.  Again, horses 
for courses.  Dee 

---Original Message---

From: Wayne Fugitt
Date: 08/05/2008 20:21:11
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSWater and Salt Confusion

Evening Dee,

 At 10:10 AM 5/8/2008, you wrote:


Well, I read that over eight glasses is too much (I think) I seem to 
remember this because this is the amount most seem to recommend.  Trouble is, I 
read so many things, that unless I am looking into that particular thing at the 
time, I just remember snippets.

Even if you remember all of it, confusion still exists.   Many reasons 
exist for the confusion.

The mainstream, and these doctors say one thing and alternative people 
say another.

Many different numbers exist for the MDR or RDA.  

   
  
   


RE: CSUrine color and Salt Confusion

2008-05-09 Thread Judy K
I am 72. I was dehydrated for years, without knowing it.  BP high,
urine color dark
When I began hydrating (1/2 my pound weight = ounces of water per
day)
my urine lightened, my BP normalized, I could read without glasses
(still do, except those damned phone books) My kidneys would
clench with minor pains. Dehydration can eventually destroy
them. Back then, I never felt thirsty. When dehydration becomes
chronic, that is often
the case. Please, stop talking opinions and start to read some
good information www.watercure.com and www.watercure2.com are good
places to start. As we get older, more and more people become
chronically dehydrated. But they don't feel thirsty.
Here are 13 symptoms:
http://www.care2.com/greenliving/13-symptoms-of-chronic-dehydratio
n.html
Judy Down Maine


-Original Message-
From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org]
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 8:48 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSWater and Salt Confusion


  I think this has to be obvious, but I also think that if
more water is needed this is the reason we feel thirsty.  If you
don't feel thirsty then I wouldn't have thought it would be
necessary to drink; the same as if you are not hungry, then you
don't (or shouldn't), eat.  Isn't there something about
overloading kidneys if you drink too much?  Dee

  ---Original Message---

  From: Faith Gagne
  Date: 09/05/2008 13:39:45
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSWater and Salt Confusion

  Your body needs water for everything it does 24 hours a day.
Your body needs water to function at all.  Your body even needs
water to breathe.  Try fogging up a mirror with no water in your
system.  Faith G.






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RE: CSElectrode Spacing (UNCLASSIFIED)

2008-05-09 Thread Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC
Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED 
Caveats: NONE

 Subject: CSBrewing CS

To all  (especially new members)
You can make a Controlled Current Generator with and Wall  DC power
supply using
a Current Regulating Central Diode they come in various currents
610-1N5297 from Mouser Electronics is for 1 Mill amp
You put this in line with power supply with a volt meter you can measure
voltage (higher as Silver is further apart and lower as you move silver
closer together). It adjust voltage to matain  mill amp rating.
With a cheap meter from Harbor Freight you can look at the voltage.
Power supplies vary I have a 12 volt DC power supply (500 mil amps) that
puts out close to 24 volts DC at 1 Milliamp.
You can connect up the probes from a multi meter and with a current
limiter you can change the spacing on 
Your Silver and watch the voltage change to matain the rating (such as
the 1 Mill Amp).
 
  Bob



-Original Message-
From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:cwa...@netdoor.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 1:27 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSElectrode Spacing

Evening Tony,

  At 11:58 PM 5/8/2008, you wrote:
I use a 9 volt battery connected to two fine silver rods 2.5mm diameter

by about 80 mm long.
Put the rods in 250 ml distilled water for about 1 hour and you will 
have something useful. the rods need to be close about 15mm apart but 
must not touch each other.
Swirl or stir with the
rods every 10 minutes or so.

   I make CS much the same way you do and do not disagree with anything
you said.

   I have only one question.

the  rods need to be close about 15mm apart but must not touch each 
other

How do you arrive at this distance?  Mine are further than that.
And maybe another one,  why a specific distance ?

Wayne
=





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CSNebulizer comparison and recommendation.

2008-05-09 Thread alchemysa
Fill it with CS. Or just put  in as much as you need. A little lasts a 
long time in a humidifyer or nebuliser. Use straight CS. Don't water it down


David



Subject:
Re: CSNebulizer comparison and recommendation.
From:
Dee  d...@deetroy.org
Date:
Fri, 9 May 2008 13:05:35 +0100 (GMT Standard Time)
To:
silver-list@eskimo.com

To:
silver-list@eskimo.com


I have found one on Amazon which is really reasonable so I think I 
will get that.  Could you tell me how much CS you have to put in 
please?  Many thanks.  Dee
 
---Original Message---
 
 
From: da...@alchemysa.com.au mailto:da...@alchemysa.com.au

Date: 09/05/2008 04:31:19
To: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSNebulizer comparison and recommendation.
 
Hello Dee
 
Mine came from the US. It came with a 120v to 13.5v/1000mA DC

adaptor.   That adaptor is no use here in Australia so I had to buy
my own 240v to 12v DC /1000mA adaptor. (About $20).  You will notice
that my output DC voltage is slightly different but it seems to have
worked fine for two years.
 
If you are in the UK note that there is a Medisana branch over there.

The prices are a lot more expensive than the US but I guess its got
the correct adaptor.
http://medisanauk.shoppinglinx.co.uk/
 
David
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 












CSAppeals Court Affirms Order Requiring Seasilver Defendants to Pay Almost $120 Million in Diet Supplement Case

2008-05-09 Thread Anomie
Maybe this has been posted already and I missed it, but the FDA  
doesnt like cure claims 


http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2008/04/seasilver.shtm

The decision, issued on April 10, 2008, affirmed a district court  
order requiring Jason and Bela Berkes, Seasilver, USA, Inc., and  
Americaloe, Inc., to pay almost $120 million under an agreement with  
the Federal Trade Commission. The March 2004 order barred them from  
making false or misleading claims and included a $120 million  
judgment that would be suspended if they paid $3 million within a  
specified time. The defendants did not meet the required payment  
terms, and in June 2006 a district court granted the Commission’s  
request to enforce the stipulated judgment. The defendants appealed  
the decision.

Re: CSNebulizer comparison and recommendation.

2008-05-09 Thread Dee
Thank you.  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: alchemysa
Date: 09/05/2008 14:23:33
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSNebulizer comparison and recommendation.
 
Fill it with CS. Or just put  in as much as you need. A little lasts a long
time in a humidifyer or nebuliser. Use straight CS. Don't water it down

David



Subject: Re: CSNebulizer comparison and recommendation.
From: Dee  d...@deetroy.org
Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 13:05:35 +0100 (GMT Standard Time)
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

I have found one on Amazon which is really reasonable so I think I will get
that.  Could you tell me how much CS you have to put in please?  Many thanks
  Dee 
 
---Original Message---
 
 
From: da...@alchemysa.com.au
Date: 09/05/2008 04:31:19
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSNebulizer comparison and recommendation.
 
Hello Dee
 
Mine came from the US. It came with a 120v to 13.5v/1000mA DC
adaptor.   That adaptor is no use here in Australia so I had to buy
my own 240v to 12v DC /1000mA adaptor. (About $20).  You will notice
that my output DC voltage is slightly different but it seems to have
worked fine for two years.
 
If you are in the UK note that there is a Medisana branch over there.
The prices are a lot more expensive than the US but I guess its got
the correct adaptor.
http://medisanauk.shoppinglinx.co.uk/
 
David
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 










 

RE: CSUrine color and Salt Confusion

2008-05-09 Thread Dee
I cannot seem to make these links work.  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Judy K
Date: 09/05/2008 14:19:02
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSUrine color and Salt Confusion
 
I am 72. I was dehydrated for years, without knowing it.  BP high, urine
color dark
When I began hydrating (1/2 my pound weight = ounces of water per day)
my urine lightened, my BP normalized, I could read without glasses (still do
 except those damned phone books) My kidneys would clench with minor pains
 Dehydration can eventually destroy them. Back then, I never felt thirsty.
When dehydration becomes chronic, that is often
the case. Please, stop talking opinions and start to read some good
information www.watercure.com and www.watercure2.com are good places to
start. As we get older, more and more people become chronically dehydrated.
But they don't feel thirsty. 
Here are 13 symptoms:
http://www.care2.com/greenliving/13-symptoms-of-chronic-dehydration.html
Judy Down Maine
 
 

RE: CSUrine color and Salt Confusion - links

2008-05-09 Thread Dee
Sorry, its my computer not connecting again!  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Judy K
Date: 09/05/2008 14:19:02
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSUrine color and Salt Confusion
 
I am 72. I was dehydrated for years, without knowing it.  BP high, urine
color dark
When I began hydrating (1/2 my pound weight = ounces of water per day)
my urine lightened, my BP normalized, I could read without glasses (still do
 except those damned phone books) My kidneys would clench with minor pains
 Dehydration can eventually destroy them. Back then, I never felt thirsty.
When dehydration becomes chronic, that is often
the case. Please, stop talking opinions and start to read some good
information www.watercure.com and www.watercure2.com are good places to
start. As we get older, more and more people become chronically dehydrated.
But they don't feel thirsty. 
Here are 13 symptoms:
http://www.care2.com/greenliving/13-symptoms-of-chronic-dehydration.html
Judy Down Maine
 
 

Re: CSWater and Salt Confusion

2008-05-09 Thread Gayla Roberts
I used to have a post on the need for water. Most of the afternoon fatigue 
people feel is mild dehydration. Many times you will mistake thirst for hunger. 
You want something - what is it You eat.
You are thirsty and you drink a soda. That dehydrates you even more. Or coffee 
- a huge dehydrator.
Off my soapbox.
Gayla Roberts
Always Enough Ranch
Acampo, California
aera...@gmail.com 



CSColorful Salty Urine Nebulizing Pacemakers, I'm confused

2008-05-09 Thread David Bearrow

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Dave 



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CSGot my silverpuppy CS generator today!!!

2008-05-09 Thread ~ Joanne ~
Hi there,

I am so excited I got my generator today and I am SO IMPRESSED with it!!! I had 
purchased one here locally and it was a cheap one for 150.00 The rods were 
thin, I could bend them like foil and you wouldn't believe how cheaply made it 
was. The fellow I bought it from took it back no problem, which was very nice 
of him and then I found the SilverPuppy!

It was shipped on April 30 and today is only the 9th!!! Terrific shipping time 
to Canada!!!

I just ordered the TDS COM100 conductivity/PPM meter ...wished I had seen it 
when I ordered the SilverPuppy and Laser.

Thank you so much Ken! I am making a batch as we speak!!!

Joanne in Canada



Re: CSColorful Salty Urine Nebulizing Pacemakers, I'm confused

2008-05-09 Thread Clayton Family

LOL


On May 9, 2008, at 10:34 AM, David Bearrow wrote:


Sorry, couldn't resist.

Dave




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RE: CSUrine color and Salt Confusion

2008-05-09 Thread Judy K
You can copy and paste -- they do work.
JDM

-Original Message-
From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org]
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 10:40 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSUrine color and Salt Confusion


  I cannot seem to make these links work.  Dee

  ---Original Message---

  From: Judy K
  Date: 09/05/2008 14:19:02
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: RE: CSUrine color and Salt Confusion

  I am 72. I was dehydrated for years, without knowing it.  BP
high, urine color dark
  When I began hydrating (1/2 my pound weight = ounces of
water per day)
  my urine lightened, my BP normalized, I could read without
glasses (still do, except those damned phone books) My kidneys
would clench with minor pains. Dehydration can eventually
destroy them. Back then, I never felt thirsty. When dehydration
becomes chronic, that is often
  the case. Please, stop talking opinions and start to read
some good information www.watercure.com and www.watercure2.com are
good places to start. As we get older, more and more people become
chronically dehydrated. But they don't feel thirsty.
  Here are 13 symptoms:

http://www.care2.com/greenliving/13-symptoms-of-chronic-dehydratio
n.html
  Judy Down Maine





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Re: CSPacemaker - Salts good and bad

2008-05-09 Thread sol

It is the sewage that bothers me the most, and they don't report that. LOL.
The oceans are sewers, I don't want to ingest evaporated sewage, along 
iwth the minerals.


 We all have to make our own decisions as to what we want to ingest, 
but though I have a great interest in salt, it is purely an intellectual 
excercise for me, since I cannot use any salt iwth any amunt of 
iodine/iodide in it. And  I must also avoid any nickel I possibly can. 
So no sea salt for me. Nor any iodized salt. Nor any products but one 
that contain sea salt or iodized salt. (I seem to be doing ok iwth a 
couple slices of the original recipe Ezekial bread per day--it lists sea 
salt in the ingredients but it can't have much as it tastes perfectly 
flat like salt free regular bread).
  The issue for me is exactly that so much of the stuff is found 
commonly in other foods. That means I ingest a certain unknown and 
varying amount of these minerals absolutely unavoidably. ANY extra can 
put me over the top into severe allergic reactions.Therefore I avoid 
what can be avoided and cross my fingers for the rest and keep a large 
stock of antihistamines on hand.

sol

Faith Gagne wrote:
I don't think the stuff in Celtic sea salt  is any big deal, 
especially where so much of the stuff is found commonly in other 
foods.  Faith G.






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Re: CSWater and Salt Confusion

2008-05-09 Thread sol

Faith Gagne wrote:
 People can go to the doctor feeling ill, tired, and just plain sick 
only to discover that they were dehydrated!  They were thirsty and 
didn't know it. 
My mother, when she got to where walking was a big effort, would not 
drink adequately because getting up and going to the bathroom was so 
difficult. Thus she was always dehydrated to some extent, and she 
actually ended up in the ER extremely ill.  Two of those times resulted 
in hospitilazations, one for 11 days.
While we don't want to drink so much water as to flush out all water 
soluble vitamins, dehydration can be very serious, particularly for 
anyone debilitated in other ways.

sol


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Re: CSAppeals Court Affirms Order Requiring Seasilver Defendants to Pay Almost $120 Million in Diet Supplement Case

2008-05-09 Thread sol
So long as they confine themselves to outright scam organisations and 
quacks like the seasilver people it doesn't bother me at all. That is 
the FDA doing their proper job for once. And we who want to preserve our 
access to legitimate and effective alternative products and 
practitioners ought to be glad to see the quacks shut down.


Part of the problem of how the FDA sees alternative health and 
alternative products is the penchant of the alternative community to 
rise up in vehement, vociferous defense of scammers and quacks. In the 
long run it does us all no good to knee-jerk defend the snake oil 
salesmen. It just makes everything alternative even more suspect to the 
PTB.


We need to be careful whom we support, so that when the FDA attacks the 
solid alternatives we have a credibility leg to stand on, as I don't 
have any confidence the FDA can tell a scam from a hole in the ground 
except by accident.

sol

Anomie wrote:
Maybe this has been posted already and I missed it, but the FDA doesnt 
like cure claims 


http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2008/04/seasilver.shtm

The decision, issued on April 10, 2008, affirmed a district court 
order requiring Jason and Bela Berkes, Seasilver, USA, Inc., and 
Americaloe, Inc., to pay almost $120 million under an agreement with 
the Federal Trade Commission. The March 2004 order barred them from 
making false or misleading claims and included a $120 million judgment 
that would be suspended if they paid $3 million within a specified 
time. The defendants did not meet the required payment terms, and in 
June 2006 a district court granted the Commission’s request to enforce 
the stipulated judgment. The defendants appealed the decision.



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Re: CSWater and Salt Confusion

2008-05-09 Thread sol
I honestly think the coffee, tea, soda dehydrating thing is a myth. I 
believe we retain a lot more of the water in those drinks than is peed 
out from the diuretic effects.
It would be an interesting experiment to drink an amount of one of 
those, and measure urine output for (?) some time afterwards. You'd have 
to know how long the diuretic effect lasts to make it an accurate 
experiment though.
But I honestly can't tell any significant difference in urinary urging 
or output whether I drink 16 oz water, 16 oz decaf, or 16 oz cola. With 
me it is liquid in, liquid out, no matter what the source of the liquid.
My personal experience may not be valid to a normal person though, 
because I am a salt waster, and cannot hold onto either water or salt.

sol

Gayla Roberts wrote:
/I used to have a post on the need for water. Most of the afternoon 
fatigue people feel is mild dehydration. Many times you will mistake 
thirst for hunger. You want something - what is it You eat./
/You are thirsty and you drink a soda. That dehydrates you even more. 
Or coffee - a huge dehydrator./

/Off my soapbox./



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CS[List Owner] Welcoming NEW PEOPLE...

2008-05-09 Thread M. G. Devour
Hi gang,

I've just sent Bob Larson a *VERY* sternly worded warning about how 
*NOT* to greet new people who come to the list looking for basic 
information.

The Silver List is FIRST AND FOREMOST for helping those people, no 
matter what level they are at in the beginning.

If that means we spoon feed them, then so be it!

In the starkness of this text-only medium, most attempts at humor, 
particularly sarcasm or irony, will instead come across as the worst 
sort of rudeness and arrogance. Until you *KNOW* somebody has the sort 
of temperament to understand the intent of your humor, stick with a 
direct, kindly, and gentle approach.

Now I'm going to send a quiet message to the lady to see if she 
actually saw any of your helpful messages before she unsubscribed. 
sigh

Mike Devour -- can you tell he's pissed?
silver-list owner

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Re: CSWater and Salt Confusion

2008-05-09 Thread M. G. Devour
When I had my dental revision done a couple of years back, I attended a 
week's worth of live and video presentations by Dr. Huggins and some of 
his staff.

One thing I remember him saying is that the level of mercury in 
seawater is going up gradually, year by year. If I recall right, the 
figure he quoted was 3% per year. IF 3% is correct, that works out to a 
50% increase in mercury over about a dozen years.

I've tried to Google some numbers for verification, but so far all I've 
got is reports of maybe about .3 ppm sometime in the 1970's or 80's and 
nothing recent...

What he cited as the cause of this is thousands of tons of mercury used 
as ballast in naval vessels which were sunk during the world wars. Even 
containers which were not damaged upon sinking are now slowly leaching 
their contents into the sea.

At least the ancient salt deposits that are the source of Real Salt or 
Himalayan, won't suffer that man-made contamination.

Be well,

Mike D.

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Re: CSWater and Salt Confusion

2008-05-09 Thread Gayla Roberts
It might have to do with the dehydration of the individual cells. I don't 
know. When I was drinking massive amounts of coffee on long work shifts my 
lips would get chapped from dehydration. That is the only time in my life I 
had chapped lips.

Gayla Roberts
Always Enough Ranch
Acampo, California
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I honestly think the coffee, tea, soda dehydrating thing is a myth. 



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Re: CSWater and Salt Confusion

2008-05-09 Thread sol
I see, I wasn't thinking of massive amounts of anything, just my own 
normal morning coffee, sometimes a couple glasses of iced tea (all 
decaf) and a rare glass of cola. I don't think NORMAL amounts are a 
problem, but is coffee was your major fluid intake, that could well be 
different.

sol

Gayla Roberts wrote:
It might have to do with the dehydration of the individual cells. I 
don't know. When I was drinking massive amounts of coffee on long work 
shifts my lips would get chapped from dehydration. That is the only 
time in my life I had chapped lips.



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