Re: CSBB Posts from Rowena - Osteo and Rheum Arthritis

[Rowena]

After all, I forgot to put the last offering in plain text.  Will fix this 
one right now.
This is just an interim treat for listers; I think the best way to preserve 
and use Brooks' posts is via a document, which hopefully Wayne and whoever 
else would like to do so, with Brooks' kind consent if that is forthcoming, 
would put on an accessible website for interested parties to download.   I 
don't propose posting the whole lot, but I suppose that would be possible. 
It is just a pity to turn it all from email back to word and then back to 
email - or is it?
R.

 Dear Eleanor,
Just a comment or two for now, as I have to leave shortly.   We have 
conducted many evaluations of both Osteo and Rheumatoid arthritis as it 
affects articulating joints.  Of all protocols evaluated, the most effective 
approach involved a combination of an elevated level of Gluscosamine, an 
Aloe Vera extract fraction (taken internally), plus a course of Cetyl 
Myristoleate (CMO) for a minimum of 10 days.  Additionally, very positive 
ancillary improvement in pain management  was achieved through the copious 
use of DMSO, applied topically (50% strength).  The pivotal element 
demonstrated to be the CMO as it effectively turned off the T-4 cells which 
were attacking the living tissue beds within the joint capsule areas. one 
genuine advantage from our research was the discovery that in about 85% of 
the challenged volunteers never had to repeat the  10 day CMO protocol as 
the normal physiological systems were able to restore the vitality of the 
joints  - once the insulting condition had been halted.  Hyaluronic acid was 
a very pronounced aid among a majority of the slow and non-responding 
volunteer enrollees when used as a supporting adjunct.
 A majority of the older list members are quite aware of our research 
results in this area.  We conducted a majority of our evaluations between 
1998 and 2002.  I have not outlined all of the components used  (especially 
the supplements and electro-medical devices involved), but the CMO proved to 
be the linch-pin in our successes.
 I apologize for not having more time at present, in which to elaborate more 
fully on the more definitive aspects of our research.   I wish you well in 
your efforts to gain a satisfactory outcome for your very challenging 
condition.  Take heart, it is a treatable condition (at least we have found 
it to be so), and one that, many times, has a major basis in  low 
nutritional density diets, missing vitamin, amino acid and mineral 
supplementation requrements.
 Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.

: CSrheumatoid arthritis
 Date : Tue, 16 Jan 2007 03:55:44 -0500

 Hello,
i was on this list a few years ago for a short while but i'm back because I 
need help in dealing with rheumatoid arthritis.  i started to suspect that I 
was prone to RA a few of years ago when i first started to notice a bit of 
swelling in my joints, but it always seemed to subside after a short period 
of time.  right now, however, i'm in the middle of a flare-up which is much 
worse than anything i have ever experienced before - a LOT of inflammation 
and joint discomfort, and a few joints in my fingers look to be in the early 
stages of getting deformed.  it's striking me mostly in both hands and 
knees.

 i'm 54 and kind of freaking out about this because i know how crippling and 
deforming this disease can become.  i'm taking a lot of  MSM powder which 
seems to help a bit with the discomfort but it lasts for only a short while, 
and the same with external applications of 50% dmso.  also taking 
glucosamine/chondroitin/msm tabs.  nothing much helps for very long.
   i've read in a couple of places that RA has responded to antibiotic 
treatment, which is why i'm back on this list... does anyone know what kind 
of protocol i should try?  i have a CS maker which i've just dusted off.
  thank you for any help.
  Eleanor


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From: chaha
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Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 11:38 AM
Subject: CSBB Posts from Rowena


Is anyone else finding the Brooks Bradley posts from Rowena scrambled 
looking?  Has anyone fixed any where they can resend?

Thanks in advance,

Cindy 


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Fw: CSBB Posts from Rowena Random selection Teeth and LED

[Rowena]

I am resending this; it is the one I forgot to put in plain text, and as it 
has not come through on the list I am resending it after putting into plain 
text.
As I say, these posts are just by way of treats and rewards, are pretty much 
as the document is at the moment, far from perfect.
I note the document is now down to 220 pages, but there are still many email 
artefacts to remove.
Rowena

Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: CSBB Posts from Rowena Random selection Teeth and LED


Again a few more posts taken from somewhere near the end of the document.
Still needs vast amounts of editing.
But your enquiry has lifted me from the lethargy of overwhelm and despair to 
get little bits done at a time.  You would not believe the difference made 
in the past hour.
Rowena



Dear Carlos,
We have researched the effects of EIS colloidal Silver upon both gold 
and amalgam fillings, for a number of years.  Depending upon the chemistry 
existing in the mouth fluidsat the time of introducing CS, some 
electrolytic reactions can occur.  They are, almost always, minor in 
naturethe result of short-duration, micro-currents affecting the nervous 
system.  We have never experienced a case where a high-intensity, long-term 
presentation manifested.  This does not mean that it could not occurjust 
that we did not experience it in any of our research evaluations.  One note: 
Particulate silver (within your parent solution) will, in many cases, plate 
out on your other metal-covered tooth surfaces.  Most especially gold 
surfaces;  but also mercury X silver amalgams.  In most casesespecially 
on gold-covered teeth experiencing a recent (thin covering) surface 
agglomeration, just using a soft cloth saturated with 3.5% H2O2 and rubbing 
the surfaces vigorously, will remove the bronze-colored surface 
contamination quite readily.  In some cases (longer standing ones) it proved 
necessary to use a 6% solution of H2O2,
 with which to achieve acceptable results.
   Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.  Harborne Research Foundation.
 p.s.  You might find it of interest to know that our evaluations of 
silver-mercury amalgams {removed as a matter of dental hygiene prescription, 
for causes non-related to our research) which had been subject to long-term 
exposure to CSproved remarkably resistant to chemical insultduring 
our in vitro experiments.  This is especially noteworthy in regard to the 
effective  plating which tended to cover the entire exposed surfaces of the 
silver/mercury fillings.  Additionally, we found evidence of micro-filling 
with metallic silver, of tiny cracks which had propagated over the years in 
some of the extracted teeth.
Subject : CSTeeth repairs affected by EIS?
 Date : Tue, 07 Nov 2006 11:02:47 -0400
Hello, friends,
Trying to help control my chronic Ehrlichiosis, for the last 6 weeks I have 
been consuming around 10-12 tablespoonfulls of good quality EIS of around 
14 ppm strength every day, distributed in 10-12 doses from around 6 am to 
around 10 pm, and I keep it in my mouth, swishing it around, for 2-3 
minutes   as I very gradually swallow it. I started using silver around 
three months  ago but in more moderate amounts.
 
 In the last week and a half I have had some unconfortable sensations in 
the repairs I have in my molars, which are mostly gold fillings, but there 
are  some mercury amalgams. These repairs are mostly 50 or more years old, 
and  for the last decades I have never had any new problem, except a piece 
of old  synthetic porcelain broken and repaired two years ago in one of my 
next to  incisives teeth.
These sensations, in the first couple of days, were almost slightly painful, 
and switched places, and affected indistinctly gold and amalgam molar 
repairs, one or two at the time, on both sides, but mostly on the right, and 
 almost always only on the lower molars, hardly ever on the upper ones.
I thought silver was damaging these old repairs and I was planning to go see 
a dentist, but due to the fact that that this was intermitent and switched 
places, I decided to wait. This unconfort has been decreasing, and the 
sensations have become less strong and more spaced.
If any of you has had any equivalent experience, please let me know.
Thank you.
Carlos



Hello Marshall,
  The amounts of Magnesium involved in this protocol are many times lower 
than required
 to create consequential upsets within the physiology  of any but the MOST 
SYSTEMICALLY CHALLENGED INDIVIDUALS..  Much disruptive and inaccurate 
information relating to the Calcium/Magnesium relationship has been bandied 
about by many persons who do not have correct information .and even less 
research in the matter.  For example, with some notable exceptions, most of 
the general population ingests an EXCESS of calcium ..much of it from 
un-noticed sources in the general food supply.  Magnesium is, in most cases, 
in short supply for insuring good health in the average adult.  We do 

CSFile methods and names.

[Wayne Fugitt]

At 01:00 AM 6/21/2008, you wrote:

It is just a pity to turn it all from email back to word and then back to
email - or is it?


 Who would do that and why ?

 I will put then in the same location as the others.

 If someone else wants to put them in a special place, they can do that 
easily.


I wish you could leave the date on the messages, and group them by year, or 
maybe two years.  ect.


The files should be 50 to 100 K, not 250 K or one meg.

But that is not etched in stone.

I am sure you have worked out you technique and method.
We would all do it a bit different.

I would export before editing, and certainly not paste, due to speed.

You can highlight a number of messages, and export them in one 
process.  Very Fast.  Not sure how many, but maybe several.


If I had the time and energy, I would write a program to do the whole 
smear, ( or most of it ) automatically.


I have done such things in the past.

Anyway you want to do it is OK with me.

Consider making several files.  It would help people to make reference,  by 
saying that is covered in 2005 or 2006.


Wayne

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Re: CSBB Posts emx fired ceramic products - piezo-electric ceramics

[Rowena]

From: BROOKS BRADLEY  Dear Jonathan,
  The family of piezo-electric ceramics have, for many years, been used both 
as physical disturbance-to -electrical energy output  and/or electrical 
input-to-physical-output devices.  The two most common groups center around 
barium titanate  and lead zirconate titanate containing compounds.  The 
old-fashioned crystal-type phonograph pick-up elements were of the barium 
titanate type.  Early sonar receiving transducers were also.  Many types of 
army ordinance especially bombs and artillery shells have employed such 
transducers to generate high voltages (at impact) to detonate the 
explosives.  A small piezo-electric disc the size of a quarter will yield 
instanteous voltages on the order of 3000 volts (when impacting around 1000 
g's ).
 By merely squeezing  a small 1 piezo-electric ceramic, a sizeable output 
will occur.  Electro-acoustic energies applied to a  piezo-electric ceramic 
will result in a faithful physical  reproduction of the applied 
requency  - -up to quite high values.  Additionally, even very small, 
repetitive, voltage pulses, when applied serially---while maintaining the 
same polarity orientation---can charge a lead zirconate cylinder of  6 
length X 4 dia. to near-lethal levels.  Also, once charged, the capacitive 
effect remains over prolonged periods of time  - unless the inside and 
outside (plated with silver) surfaces of the cylinder are shorted.
 Such behavior suggests that both physical and electro-stimulation of 
susceptible ceramic materials could, indeed, result in some of the 
physiological conditions you relate.
 Sincerely,
 Brooks Bradley
Jonathan B. Britten wrote:
 Dr. Teruo Higa of Okinawa makes and sells some very powerful fired  ceramic 
products called EMX.   There are available online from EMTrading.com.I 
dabble with these but frankly  do not understand the  energies coming from 
these ceramics.   VERY  powerful.
I use a necklace made of these occasionally,  and it seems to produce a 
herx. reaction initially, usually within a few hours after I put it on; 
sometimes I have to take the darned thing off,  but overall feel better 
when wearing it,  exp. when using a computer.   It seems to balance the  
energy fields from electronic products,  and this is one advertised 
purpose.

 The field from EMX ceramic is very strong.   I think it is partly  
 magnetic;  two on top of my cathode ray monitor cause the entire box to  
 vibrate and rattle when I turn it on.   I think the field somehow pulls 
 or pushes on the scanning gun as it starts up.   Very weird effect.
 When we first put a ceramic on our electric hot water pot -- a product 
 widely used in Japan -- it was destroyed in a few days.   Turns out the 
 ceramics quickly break down corrosion and clog up the pumps in such 
 things;  you are supposed to use ceramics only in new products.   Higa's 
 team destroyed a car engine in the early days using ceramics in the gas 
 tank.   I put these in the gas thank of my new van,  and the boost in 
 power was amazing,  though the improved mileage I wanted did not occur.
 Higa's stuff is well worth the time to check out.   I have no affiliation 
 BTW . . .
 JBB 


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Re: CSBB Posts SEA WATER KELP EFT SINUS

[Rowena]

 Dear Bernadette,  I am dismayed to hear you required surgery for the sinus 
condition.  EIS has demonstrated to be of excellent value among all our 
volunteers who encountered post-surgical conditions, such as you report. The 
most effective protocol turned out to be one involving the use of 10 ppm CS 
(95% by volume) and DMSO (5% by volume) administered (warmed to body 
temperature) every 3 to 4 hours...during the daylight hours. Care had to be 
taken in those cases exhibiting extra-sensitive epithelial tissue linings. 
In those cases every other administration substituted a weak saline solution 
in place of the CS X DMSO protocol which favorably resolved a majority of 
these  more challenging presentations. In some few cases the 
pain-sensitivity threshold was so quickly encountered and persisted to such 
a degree, that 1% (by volume) of 2% Lidocaine was included in the spray 
mix - which yielded favorable  results in all of those experimental cases 
due to the anaesthetic effect of the Lidocaine.  Your case presents an 
especially interesting one, to me, as I have enjoyed similar sinus 
challenges resulting from a continual sinus drainage, throughout a majority 
of my adult life. Quite serendipitously, I allowd one of our younger staff 
members to goad me into addressing this problem through an unusual (for 
me) type of address. To wit, a very simple system originally designed to 
treat chronic, non-responding, psychiatric presentations. The system is one 
well-known to list members as Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT). The system 
I used was the one designed by Gary Craig not the more elaborate procedure 
designed by Dr. Callahan. Within 6 days of beginning the very simple regimen 
I achieved results one can only describe as spectacular. My sinuses are 
dry---day and night---for the first time in 50 years! Since I am not a 
believer in NO-CAUSE spontaneous remission I am left with no alternative 
but the beneficial effects of the EFT protocol. Additionally, being a 
chronic sufferer of insomina I tried it on that also with equally satisfying 
results. The demonstrated effectiveness of such a seemingly scientifically 
junvenile procedure has left me rather stupified - but convinced enough 
that we are now inaugurating a formal evaluation of the system. I am not 
prescribing, or announcing that such a procedure will favorably resolve the 
root-cause of your current disorder but relating a personal experience. 
By-the-way, personal experience is the ONLY thing for which I allow 
dogmatism by another. My apologies for the accompanying diatribe but I offer 
it only as enforcement to my comments.Be well, my best personal regards, 
Brooks.   --- 
 Dear Shirley,
  I will try, briefly, to give a quick summary of the protocol I used.  I 
employed the general suggestions given in Gary Craig's EFT Manual.  I used 
direct statements which included the brief identity of the affected 
part/condition.  I used the unmodified basic protocol  (all of it)  two or 
three times daily but being sure to have one of them the last thing before 
going to sleep at night.  I repeated the tapping procedure (together with 
the mantra) three times for each location  (using a minimum of seven tapes 
for each location---each time the procedure was employed.  I was shocked 
at the degree of relief...and the speed of the occurrence of the 
improvement - of my insomnia (three days for SIGNIFICANT improvement).  This 
condition had been manifest for the immediately past 10 years and NOTHING 
attempted yielded any measurable real correction, prior to applying this 
extraordinarily simplistic protocol.  I was even more impressed by the 
improvement  in my chronic sinus drainage - as no drug-based therapy had 
ever successfully addressed that issue.  I am not recommending EFT as a 
treatment for anything  - just relating my personal experience.  If it was a 
PLACEBO EFFECT, it was the most powerful of which I have ever heard.  Do 
understand, a majority of our staff are DEEPLY involved in the more 
CONVENTIONAL aspects of the mainstream scientific/medical paradigm than am 
I - consequently, a significant number consider spontaneous correction a 
more tenable explanation than assigning any credible effect to the EFT 
protocols.   Their intellectual predications are of no real moment to me 
however.  Personal experience displays the highest flag at least to me.  [ 
As a matter of record, few of them enjoy more extensive 
academic/professional qualifications than do I.]
 I hope these comments are of some value to you.  I must go now.
 My Best Regards and Good Wishes to You,  Brooks Bradley.

   This post addresses the recent inquiry relating to home-type   water 
filtering system. My comments are addressed to drinking-water quantities 
0NLY. We have, several times in past years, evaluated multiple units 
provided by OEMs.  A majority of all yielded acceptable results especially 
as regards solids and larger-particle (15 micron +) 

Re: CSFile methods and names. BB posts

[Rowena]

I think I would let someone else sort the dates.  I have kept them where 
they have not disappeared in some firestorm.  I have put them into one Word 
document for my own convenience in editing; in due time I would likely put 
titles in capitals above the posts, and then possibly group them, but that 
is far away.  I like the dates kept in, and the sender where possible, but 
without the email address.

The single document is more convenient for me for editing.  They are just as 
I downloaded from your site, then the HTML shrapnel pulled out as best I 
can.  Then masses of spaces, or pointy signs etc pulled out.

It will be up to the reader to sort out what goes where, I think; it is too 
much of a responsibility for me to decide; also where there is a repetition 
of a whole post I have sometimes left it in in case there is something I 
miss, other times where I am fairly certain I am not destroying anything 
new.

When the whole document is done, I will divide it up into X no of pages, 
probably, trying to keep topics together, and send to you for the site in my 
own space-saving, paper-saving format. Scrooge format.

But if I should send it to you in some HTML type format, let me know.

If anyone is disappointed I will give them their money back.

I had better leave it for now, as I have become a bit obsessive and as soon 
as I have cleaned one post, I look at the one below and can't leave it 
alone.

Must go to the shops to get some unlabelled sprayed and fertilised and 
antibioticised food for the weekend.  DH has come in from the garden to 
clean up to take me down there, so I don't think I will be sending any 
titbits for a few hours, but boy there is some interesting stuff to post.

You had better all send me nice little notes offlist to keep me going!

Aching and sore but just a little bit triumphant
Rowena
In Winter Australia

- Original Message - 
From: Wayne Fugitt
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 3:22 PM
Subject: CSFile methods and names.


At 01:00 AM 6/21/2008, you wrote:

It is just a pity to turn it all from email back to word and then back to
email - or is it?

 Who would do that and why ?

 I will put then in the same location as the others.

 If someone else wants to put them in a special place, they can do that 
easily.

I wish you could leave the date on the messages, and group them by year, or 
maybe two years.  ect.

The files should be 50 to 100 K, not 250 K or one meg.

But that is not etched in stone.

I am sure you have worked out you technique and method.
We would all do it a bit different.

I would export before editing, and certainly not paste, due to speed.

You can highlight a number of messages, and export them in one process. 
Very Fast.  Not sure how many, but maybe several.

If I had the time and energy, I would write a program to do the whole smear, 
( or most of it ) automatically.

I have done such things in the past.

Anyway you want to do it is OK with me.

Consider making several files.  It would help people to make reference,  by 
saying that is covered in 2005 or 2006.

Wayne

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Re: CSBB Posts Ear Infections

[Rowena]

Just a reminder that these posts are just an interim treat not the final 
product.  Rwoena or whoevere I am by now.

This post is not to discuss the possible origins of ear infections, but 
rather to comment on our experimental research which addressed alleviating 
them.
  We conducted rather extensive experimental evaluations of both chronic and 
acute ear insults of both bacterial and viral origin.  After establishing 
the advantages of CS both in speed and efficacy over antibiotics and other 
conventional alleopathic medicines/drugs---we set about establishing a 
reliable protocol for address.
  I now submit a shortened version of our findings without comment on our 
learning-curve.   Our final protocol involved the utilization of 3.5% H202 
( 5 to 6 drops) placed into the afflicted ear (with the head tilted at 
near-90 degrees for proper retention) and allowed to remain unmolested until 
the fizzing sensation ceased.  Next, the head was tilted sufficiently (45 
to 90 degrees) in the opposite direction of the retention posture  - and 
allowed to drain completely (usually less than one minute). Next, 
approximately 5 to 6 drops of 5 to 10 ppm electrically-generated colloical 
silver solution was introduced via eye-dropper, into the previously treated 
ear ..with the head position...once again maintained in a relative geometry 
assuring proper retention of the solution.  This position was maintained for 
a minimum of 15 minutes ( many times...especially with the more elderly 
volunteers---they just laid down on their side,  resting their head on a 
pillow;  and went to sleep).  No blockages were evidenced or detected from 
this procedure.  Except in rare cases where the canal system emptying into 
the throat was completely blocked  ...the CS solution began, immediately, to 
drain into the throat.   In those few cases where blockage did exist, the 
simple reversal of head position facilitated complete drainage of the CS - 
at the desire/convenience of the volunteer.
  The utilization of this protocol (used once daily) resulted in an 80% 
complete resolution of all bacteria/virus based insults ..within 14 days. 
The success rate rose to 99% within 7 days, whenever the protocol frequency 
was increased to twice daily.
 Interestingly, this was the ONLY protocol found to be completely successful 
for chronic/recurring ear infections occurring in the ears of persons 
wearing in-the-ear hearing aids.  We determined (to our satisfaction) that 
maintaining acceptable inner ear hygiene, required (at least) a once-daily 
execution of this protocol.  Among older volunteers (60+ years) total 
success - over time---required a twice daily performance.
This simple protocol resulted in an astonishing reduction of colds, flu, 
pneumonia-like insults, sore-throats [especially staph-type insults, 
normally resulting in severe challenges], and upper respiratory 
complications.  Additionally, persons in whom post-nasal drip was 
uncorrectable .experienced splendid and continual relief  - especially those 
persons who made a practice of spraying the throat with CS solution  ach 
morning .  Morning spraying, alone, while quite beneficial, was not 
sufficient to gain total resolution for post-nasal drip suffering 
volunteers.
 I cannot recommend strongly enough that list members utilizing in-the-ear 
hearing aids consider evaluating this protocol in their experimental 
researches.
Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.
  Friday, November 16, 2001 1:43 PM
Subject: CSChronic ear infections for Judy from New York
] Hey, Judy and welcome.  The list begins by being confusing, but it will 
shake out! We're in the process of putting together some useful information 
for everyone (if we can agree, that is.) In the meantime, I remember chronic 
ear infections often being a sign of milk allergy.
 Judy Down Maine (grandma that is)
 I am new to this list and VERY new to using CS. CS has been recommended 
 many
 times on a dog list I belong to, so I thought I would give it a try and 
 join  this list to learn more. Sad to say, I am very confused and have no 
 idea what anyone is talking about, I feel like I need a degree in 
 Chemistry.
 Anyway, thanks to Larry for his input on the Ole Bob, I am going to jump 
right in and buy a generator. After paying $40 for 8 ounces of CS, I decided 
if I am going to continue this, I need to make my own. I have a dog with 
chronic skin conditions and a child with chronic ear infections, so I am 
hoping I have found a solution in using CS. I am an RN and the idea of using 
alternative medicine rather than conventional treatments is a real change 
for me, so if I do start asking stupid


 Dear Duncan,
I believe the url you are looking for is
www.angelfire.com/egel/acidwate.html
  Sincerely,
  Brooks Bradley.

  CSrequest for alkalizer plans
  Did anyone save the alkaline water maker plans?  The site that had the 
plans seems to be down...  Duncan Crow 


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Re: CSBB Posts from Rowena - BHP post

[Wayne Fugitt]

Morning Rowen,



If Wayne is willing, I could send him the document as it is, which would at
least be cleaner than the original emails.


  I am very good and very fast at formatting. grin



  I have got the original all
in one document (Brook Bradley Posts) down to 3.97 MB, and down to 238
pages.


 You need to break this up and make 3 or 4 files.  Some people still use a 
dial up

slow connection.

Many think because they have a fast connection, everyone does.



 The original document had vast number of spaces because of the
original email formatting; there are still a lot, but it is more readable.

  HTML and DOC are both bloated files.



legible.  Another thing I am trying to do as etiquette is remove the email
addresses of the posters; there are a lot in there and I think it would be
better to take them out.

   A good idea.



I hope I have not selected too large a portion to get through the
constraints of the website.  I am also trying to remember to switch from
HTML to plain text, as Mike requests.


  Not sure what you mean by that.  I do not think you should post this to 
the list.


 Certainly not the huge file.  A small HTML file is one thing, A huge one 
is another.





 I had it set always to plain, then
for some reason switched to HTML, and was never able to get it back to
default plain text, so have to try to remember each time I post.


 Do you mean your messages ?


 Doesn't
always happen, sorry, Mike.  But I have taken note and am trying to do it
plain text (in case you haven't noticed, this is what Mike requests on the
website - the HTML format takes up too much valuable room).


  Are you referring to a list as a website ?

  Or... you are trying to confuse me.  grin  That is not easy.

Wayne

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Re: CSBB Posts Ear Infections

[Dee]

This is really helpful Rowena.  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Rowena
Date: 21/06/2008 08:48:55
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSBB Posts Ear Infections
 
Just a reminder that these posts are just an interim treat not the final
product.  Rwoena or whoevere I am by now.
 
This post is not to discuss the possible origins of ear infections, but
rather to comment on our experimental research which addressed alleviating
them.
  We conducted rather extensive experimental evaluations of both chronic and
acute ear insults of both bacterial and viral origin.  After establishing
the advantages of CS both in speed and efficacy over antibiotics and other
conventional alleopathic medicines/drugs---we set about establishing a
reliable protocol for address.
  

Re: CSBB Posts SEA WATER KELP EFT SINUS - spirulina?

[Dee]

I'm very interested in the kelp thing.  Does anyone know if spirulina is as
good?  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Rowena
Date: 21/06/2008 08:33:04
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSBB Posts SEA WATER KELP EFT SINUS
 
   
  We have, over the immediately past 14 years, conducted over 15 separate
experimental investigations/trials involving effects of the mineral spectrum
upon domestic large-animals and human beings.  I have made summary comments
relating to our results multiple times, on this list.  Since our archives
are at present, unavailable, I will restate our general findings (repeated
multiple times earlier).  NOTHING we evaluated equalled in degree or speed
the effectiveness of granulated sea kelp.  There were measurable differences
in degree but ALL were effective in the general sense.  I remind our
members---yet again---that after the serum fraction and partial red-cell
removal from human blood the remainder constituent is ESSENTIALLY
  SEA WATER. Kelp sequesters the entire mineral spectrum of the ocean and
dutifully reflects it within the internal plant structure.  

Re: CSFile methods and names. BB posts

[Clayton Family]

Hi Wayne and Rowena,

This is a wonderful service to all of us, thank you. Rowena, I would 
like to help. No guarantees and no hurries, but there it is. I do have 
some time available.


kathryn


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Re: CSBB Posts from Rowena - Osteo and Rheum Arthritis

[tom chick]

Rowena, Thanks so much for these BB posts. I had lost many that I thought I had 
saved. Please keep them coming. Tom



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Re: CSBB Posts SEA WATER KELP EFT SINUS - spirulina?

[bbanever]

Rowena,

I know that kelp and other seaweeds are healthful and chock full of trace 
minerals, but I worry about heavy metals and other chemical poisons in the 
oceans which also get absorbed by the plant.  I've been taking prehistoric 
plant based mineral supplements because of my fear of mercury in the kelp.

   Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dee 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 5:32 AM
  Subject: Re: CSBB Posts SEA WATER KELP EFT SINUS - spirulina?


I'm very interested in the kelp thing.  Does anyone know if spirulina 
is as good?  Dee 

---Original Message---

From: Rowena
Date: 21/06/2008 08:33:04
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSBB Posts SEA WATER KELP EFT SINUS

   
  We have, over the immediately past 14 years, conducted over 15 
separate
experimental investigations/trials involving effects of the mineral 
spectrum
upon domestic large-animals and human beings.  I have made summary 
comments
relating to our results multiple times, on this list.  Since our 
archives
are at present, unavailable, I will restate our general findings 
(repeated
multiple times earlier).  NOTHING we evaluated equalled in degree or 
speed
the effectiveness of granulated sea kelp.  There were measurable 
differences
in degree but ALL were effective in the general sense.  I remind our
members---yet again---that after the serum fraction and partial red-cell
removal from human blood the remainder constituent is ESSENTIALLY
  SEA WATER. Kelp sequesters the entire mineral spectrum of the ocean 
and
dutifully reflects it within the internal plant structure.   
  
   

Re: CSBB Posts from Rowena - BHP post

[chaha]

Hi, Rowena,

I will help by doing one per day.  Email me privately.

Cindy

Re: CSBB Posts EMPHYSEMA; DR RATH,

[Rowena]

Dear List members,
I have a comment, regarding emphysema, I believe will be of some interest to 
some.  However, in addition, I feel compelled to revisit another of my 
subliminal compulsions regarding the current state-of-the-health of the 
world an affliction I seem unable to overcome.
Back in January, 2003, one of our staffhappened across a posting made by Dr. 
Walt Stoll, on his website. It appeared innocuous on the surface of things, 
but our staffer decided to follow-up on the prospects himself.  His 
immediate, excellent responses emanating from a single test case prompted 
great excitement on his behalf.  I will not consume additional of your time 
and attention to elaborate further, than to say the positive results 
achieved with a 72 year old female (long-term smoker) were little short of 
astounding. For those interested in a possible aid for late-stage emphysema
investigate for yourself.  The url is
Http://askwaltstollmd.com/body_rebounding.html

Now comes my spleen venting.
The recent appeal, by a list member, for informational assistance on 
pancreatic cancer was the straw that broke the camel's back---for me--and 
caused my pent-up emotions regarding the predatory influence of the 
international patented-drug Cartel (and fellow travelers) to erupt.
When reflecting upon the wide-spread availability and ease of acquiring, so 
many effective, alternative, protocols for---otherwise---life-threatening 
insults, one is drawn toward into an almost morbid fascination with the 
drama created by the success of this allopathic-based medical 
dictatorshiip. I have no intention of analyzing the metamorphosis of this 
circumstance, but do offer the following as a reminder that THERE ARE OTHER 
WAYS open to sufferers from many of the life-threatening conditions - than 
the Dead End protocols presntly employed to ensnare a fearful and unknowing 
public.
A majority of presently available, unbiased research, confirms that cancer 
(all forms) spreads  through a similar mechanism, the use of 
collagen-digesting enzymes (collagenases and metalloprotenases).  The 
therapeutic use of the natural amino acid lysine--especially together with 
other non-patentable micronutirients---can block these enzymes and thereby 
inhibit the spread of cancer cells.  Repeatable research demonstrates this 
protocol effects against all types of cancer - including breast cancer, 
prostate cancer, lung cancer, skin cancer, fibroblastoma, synovial 
cancer---and all other forms against which this therapeutic approach has 
been applied.
I will not comment further upon the obvious reasons this information is, 
currently, unavailable to the general public.  However,
I will state what I would include in my protocol addresses, if I had  ANY 
form of cancer presenting.  The regimen would include, as a minimum, 2000 mg 
of Lysine, 5000 mg of vitamin C, 40 grams of high-quality kelp and 400 mg 
alpha lipoic acid Daily.  There are other, supportive constituents I would 
incorporate (including carnitine, beta glucan, etc.) - but the 
above-mentioned would be the foundation of my personal approach.
I agree with Dr. Mathias Rath, in his conclusions that Vitamin C, utilized 
in even moderate dosages, (5 to 10 grams daily) has demonstated to control 
HIV-Virus replication by 99% +.  Data/experiments dating over 10 years past 
substantiate this position.
Additionally, we have been unable to find a SINGLE volunteer expressing high 
blood pressure, who was not successful n normalizing their numbers...through 
utilizing a group of common, non-patentable, micronutrients.  Principal 
among these were magnesium and arginine.  The beneficial effects were both 
rapid and dramatic.
I am nearing the end of this, particular, diatribe;  but will offer one more 
comment relating to heart failure presentations.  I summarize:
The impaired pumping of the heart and increasing accumulation of water in 
the body has been, unequivocally, determined to be a deficiency of cellular 
biocatalysts principal among which are Co-enzyme Q-10, carnitine, the 
entire mineral spectrum, vitamins (especially B-12) and  several other 
biological energy transporters.
These comments are not designed to impress others with my erudition or 
knowledge - the bulk of such information being common to most of you;  but 
as a reminder that alternatives DO EXIST, and hopelessness does not have to 
carry the day.
Sincerely, Brooks Bradley
p.s.  A final comment:  We have failed to identify, during the past 10 
years, ANY substance superior to commonly available granulated kelp in 
addressing the entire mineral spectrum needs of the human (or any other 
mammal's) body.


 While this is a rather lengthy article, it contains much 
worthwhile information, including excellent summary of the history of the 
Drug Cartel and its influence in world affairs over the past 100 years.  Dr. 
Rath is not some mouth foaming lunatic shouting attack-slogans from a 
roof-top.  His educational and 

Fw: CSBB Posts DMSO, MALARIA AND SLEEPING SICKNESS, CMO, BLEEDING, INSOMNIA, PARVOVIRUS

[Rowena]

Reposted in plain text in case previous (inadvertent) HTML format didn't get 
through.
R.

- Original Message - 
From: Rowena
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 1:50 AM
Subject: Re: CSBB Posts DMSO, MALARIA AND SLEEPING SICKNESS, CMO, BLEEDING, 
INSOMNIA, PARVOVIRUS


DMSO
Dear Dim,
 The man (Dr. Stanley Jacob, M.D.)who performed the real seminal work on 
DMSO for possible health/medical benefits;  has ingested, daily, one or two 
teaspoons of DMSO as a personal protocol.  I believe he did this, 
originally, to demonstrate the absence of toxicity of the substance in front 
of a number of his colleagues.  We have found DMSO to be UNUSUALLY BENIGN as 
a solitary substance.  The principal caution being that because of its 
highly pronounced ability to sequester/entrain and transport other 
substances,  caution should be exercised as this characteristic GREATLY 
multiplies  the level-of-influence of any entrained element/compound.  As 
few persons ingest DMSO orally, this caution is, primarily, an address for 
topical applications. Do remember, topically applied DMSO is only slightly 
less rapid in distribution throughout the cardio-vascular system, than if it 
was implemented IV being detectable on ones breath in a matter of seconds, 
not minutes.
  All commercially available DMSO produced  within the U.S. is of similar 
purity  99+%.  Reagent grade, available only for special research and 
medical experimentation purposes is not (to our knowledge) available in the 
conventional commerce stream  - nor would it appear, to be necessary.
  If you have a deeper interest in the history and use of the substance, I 
recommend you just make a Browser search on Dr. Stanley Jacob and follow the 
information stream.
   Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley  Harborne Research Foundation.
 p.s.  If you are considering ingesting undiluted DMSO orally, I would 
remind you that it is UNUSUALLY bitter even to the point of interfering with 
the gag-reflex if attempted without dilution.  Additionally,it is HIGHLY 
hygroscopic and this characteristic causes such rapid scavenging of moisture 
from the epithelial tissues of the mouth and upper throat as to leave one 
with the impression the area is being blistered and that is not far from the 
truth.

Purity of DMSO
Thu, 01 Mar 2007
 From : Alternative D.
 Hello listers,
  I have a simple question to make concerning purity of DMSO. I have ordered 
1  liter of DMSO 99,5% pure, is it ok for internal use with cs or should it 
be  of higher purity?
  Dim

MALARIA, SLEEPING SICKNESS
  It should be noted that T. Cruzi is a kineplastid (free-living flagellated 
protozoa) kin of the African Trypanosome of Sleeping Sickness ill-fame. 
These are MULTICELLED  organisms, thus pose a serious challenge to the 
effects of Colloidal Silver.  Some researchers have reported success in 
using Colloidal Silver as a controlling protocol for Plasmodium of Malaria. 
We have enjoyed No SUCH SUCCESS only the enzymatic-based protocol designed 
around Trypsin, chymotripsin, has demonstrated, Conclusively, to inervate 
the plasmodium especially in those cases of relapse.  At least that has been 
our experience, in our experimental researches.
 Persons interested in familiarizing themselves with the Enzyme protocol 
(developed about 85 years ago by a British Army doctor), try 
Http://Users.navi.net/~rsc/lamballa.htm
 Although not tested, we suspect that the same protocol could work on T. 
Cruzi and the piroplasma of tick fever.
   Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.

FLOODING AND BLOOD
   Dear List Member,
 About fifteen years ago, my wife was suffering, continually from excessive 
menstrual flooding.  Sometimes so bad emergency hospitalization was required 
and blood transfusions administered.  This circumstance prompted our group 
to conduct an investigation into possible alternative protocols to address 
this condition.  We were quite unsuccessful until, quite serendipitously we 
were recommended to use wild amaranth seed, in the form of a simple tea.  We 
were both delighted---and shocked - to discover the very powerful, and rapid 
results.  The first time we used it on my wife,  positive flow control 
evinced within 4 hours of the initiation of the  protocol.  She utilized 
this protocol, most successfully, for all the remaining years through 
menopause.
  I posted the results of these experimental investigations, to this list, 
about four or five years ago.  Unfortunately, our archives have been  lost 
as a result of damage to the server the Silver-List was  using and those 
posts are not presently available.  However, I can state, with confidence, 
we were successful in every case from among over 12 consecutive cases  - in 
stopping this type of excessive blood loss without the use of ANY attendant 
protocol adjuncts.  Our results were, to us, near miraculous in nature. 
Essentially, the basic protocol consisted of placing two teaspoons of mature 
wild amaranthus seeds into one cup of boiling 

Re: CSBB Posts - Humming for Sinusitis

[Rowena]

6 AUG 2003  HUMMING FOR SINUSITIS

Intrigued by the research of some Swedish researchers, we instituted a limited 
evaluation of the effects of humming on persons suffering from  chronic 
sinusitis.  Somewhat to our surprise, a quite measurable  improvement effected 
among a majority of the participating volunteers.

Several different modes were applied all with beneficial effect. 

  Just simple humming of a favorite tune for 5 or so minutes twice a day, 
proved beneficial.  However, the most benefit came among those who utilized a 
conventional deep breathing technique;  one including an in-breath 
accompanied by diaphragm/stomach expansion followed immediately by the humming 
generation.  Depending upon ones lung capacity, the hum will last about  5 to 
10 seconds as the spent air is exhausted to completion of the exhalation.  Best 
results were obtained through insuring that the tongue does not rest against 
the teeth...or the mouth sides/roof during exhalation.  Equally effective 
results came for persons breathing in via mouth, nose, or combination 
(especially useful for persons with nose passage stoppages).  However, somewhat 
better effects emanated from keeping the mouth completely closed during the 
induced-humming period while just allowing the natural exhausting to occur via 
the nasal ducts.  One advantage of this method over just simple melodic humming 
lay in the ability to greatly increase the strength (volume) of the humming.  
The increased power of this method becomes self-evident to the practitioner 
through the increased vibration component felt in the nasal bone structure.

We found that just 10 deep breathing cycles, executed twice daily proved quite 
beneficial for a variety of moderate sinus afflictions and most especially for 
long-term, chronic, sufferers of stuffy nose type presentations.

I was so impressed that I tried it myself, and found it to be an excellent 
protocol for relieving my own, long-standing, sinus challenge. 

  It has proven to be most especially useful just before going off to sleep and 
just before arising from bed in the morning.  One, additional, unexpected 
benefit proved to be the almost universal loosening of phlegm blockages 
occurring immediately after or sometimes during, the protocol.

In any event, it is a harmless personal support endeavor which costs nothing 
and offers the promise of additional relief from a rather uncomfortable 
condition.

Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.

p.s.  Additionally, this procedure proved quite effective in relieving some 
conditions of pressure accomodation imbalances of the ear.

CSBB Archives: Food poisoning, botulinum, CS spectacular

[Rowena]

Brooks,

Thanks for your post and underlying experiments, however I remain confused 
about the roles of: first,  botulinum the active bacterium itself, second, 
the debris from dead bacterial residue and thus the notorious Herx effect, 
and third the toxin excreted by the live bacterium under a 'favorable' i.e. 
anaerobic non-acidic environment - for instance most conspicuously home 
canning.

I had accepted the third scenario that only the toxin was a threat, and this 
opinion was bolstered by the idea that stomach acid would summarily destroy 
any live botulinae, but that the toxin, if already present in the food, 
would survive the torments of cooking or canning.  Apparently my beliefs, 
fostered by the dept of agriculture pamphlets on home food preservation, are 
overly simplistic.

Can CS, either particulate or ionic, deactivate the toxin itself?  Or is the 
toxin relatively short lived?  Or does CS block its normal pathways, or does 
Gatorade facilitate them? Does the opportunity afforded the bacteria to 
'bloom' account in part or in whole for variations in response to CS 
therapy?  If so, how does it bloom in the presence of stomach acid?  Or does 
it instead hold out until it enters the gut?  Pleomorphism, spore
forms??

Confusion!!

Take care, Malcolm

At 08:36 PM 6/7/06 -0600, you wrote:

I agree with Marshall's general proposition.  About nine years ago we 
conducted rather detailed evaluations of the effects of EIS type colloidal 
silver, as an address against bacterial/Viral alimentary presentations.  We 
chose Botulinum as the primary; subject for our principal investigations 
(botulinum is the most dangerous among all of the types we investigated). 
Active research revealed that concentrations of CS as low as 3 ppm were 
effective, but rather large volumes were required for rapid-onset positive 
results (about 10 ounces initial dosage, followed by another 10 ounces in 
approximately 20 minutes).  Favorable response WAS NOT a direct effect of 
linear increase of PPM strength;  e.g.  10 ppm CS yielded favorable results 
4X as rapidly, as did 2 ppm concentrations ..for equivalent volumetric 
measure.  We did not encounter a single case of Jarisch-Herxheimer's 
reaction from the 60 cases involved among our volunteer, experimental, 
population.  I notice various speculations, from among the immediate 
previous postings, which speculate on the potential dangers of Herx 
reactions from possible toxic components among the bacterial debris residue.

While such does appear a possibility, actual practice did not produce such 
an occurrence .in our evaluations.  Our staff postulated a number of 
speculations for the actual circumstance! We experienced ..the most 
acceptable being that the debris was, actually, less toxic to the victim's 
alimentary system - than one might initially presume.  Additionally, it is 
speculation, only, as to the magnitude of possible toxic debris moving 
through the epithelial tissue into the circulation system - where serious 
consequences could occur.  Botulism appears to be a very opportunistic 
reproducer and time is crucial for it effecting an explosive bloom capable 
of a terminal insult.  Our research tends to add credibility to this 
assumption, as any CS-based measures instigated, halted continued 
reproduction in brief time windows (usually in SPECTACULAR FASHION). 
Sometimes effecting total cramping relief within eight to ten minutes. 
Interestingly, in those cases where CS was combined with Gatorade, the 
favorable response was measurably reduced - indicating a consequential 
degree of chloride combination with some of the ionic component  - possibly. 
In any case, the solutions containing the higher content of particulate 
silver were measurably superior in achieving favorable results.  EIS colloid 
has demonstrated to be without EQUAL AS AN EXPERIMENTAL PROTOCOL in 
addressing all forms of food-related bacterial or viral poisons presenting 
ANYWHERE in the alimentary tract ..at least in our experimental researches. 
Others way have encountered different results.  My family members never go 
out to eat ANYWHERE without carrying a small bottle of 20 ppm Colloidal 
Silver such has saved many of us much misery and eliminated the prospects of 
serious consequences - over the immediately-past eight or nine years.  My 
apologies for such a lengthy post but I hope this information will be 
favorably considered by interested members in their personal experimental 
researches.

Sincerely,  Brooks Bradley.
Eric Harborne Research Foundation.

p.s.  In the one circumstance where we were able to include a control 
component (multiple numbers of people presenting simultaneously), among the 
7 cases admitted to the emergency room of the local hospital, all but one 
required hospitalization.  Four required retention for more than 5 days. 
All required multiple balanced fluid electrolyte IVs.  One required many 
IVs and 11 days hospital confinement.  The 5 cases involving the 

CSEMPHYSEMA; The Lungs

[Wayne Fugitt]

 Many babies are born that never breath ONE breath.

 There is NO Lecithin in the lung tissue.

 Likewise, one common thing about emphysema,

 There is NO Lecithin in the lung tissue.

 And I know, ... you know all about lecithin.

 Wayne

That information is many years old.  New things may have disproven it, but 
I have not read of them.

=


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CSColloidal Silver and H202

[Peter Converse]

Hi all, 

I posted a few questions on message # 362 on the 19th and had hoped to get some 
feedback. Thanks, Dee for your response. If anyone else could help me out here 
I would greatly appreciate it!


Thanks,

Peter

Re: CSColloidal Silver and H202

[Dee]

You're welcome Peter; sorry I couldn't be of more help.  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Peter Converse
Date: 06/21/08 20:07:24
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSColloidal Silver and H202
 
Hi all, 
 
I posted a few questions on message # 362 on the 19th and had hoped to get
some feedback. Thanks, Dee for your response. If anyone else could help me
out here I would greatly appreciate it!
 
 
Thanks,
 
Peter
 

CSsilver puppy

[Mary Ellen Murphy]

How do I can I e-mail the guy that sells the silver puppy.  There is not
e-mail address on his site.   

Thanks
Mary Ellen

-Original Message-
From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 9:32 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSColloidal vs Ionic

Mary Ellen Murphy wrote:

 Here is some research I have done on this topic.  Any comments would 
 be helpful

 http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html

  

 Thanks

 Mary Ellen

The page does a pretty good job of describing the differences between 
ionic, colloidal and MSP silver.  It also indicated that most colloidal 
silver is around 80 to 90% (actually he just says 90%) ionic, and his is 
10 to 50% ionic.  He calls one ionic and one colloidal, but fact is they 
are both a mixture of ionic and colloidal, ours is just MORE ionic and 
his is MORE colloidal.  They are both mixtures of ionic and colloidal.  
There is no real argument there as far as composition goes, but the big 
question is which is more effective.  The ionic portion causes the 
reversion to stem cells, very very helpful for healing injuries, and 
preventing scarring.. It is also an effective germicide. The colloidal 
portion is also an effective germicide, possibly the effectiveness of 
each is better or worse depending on the type of germ.  The colloidal 
portion is necessary to prevent argyria.  So which is better. Not sure 
one is better than the other across the board.  Ours is likely better 
for burns, which respond to silver ions best, and to prevent scarring. 
His might be best against some pathogens, but don't know which ones if 
it is.

Marshall

  

 

 *From:* Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org]
 *Sent:* Thursday, June 19, 2008 12:19 PM
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* RE: CSGlandular fever

  

 Thanks Dan.  Dee

  

 /---Original Message---/

  

 */From:/* Dan Nave mailto:dan.n...@nilfisk-advance.com

 */Date:/* 06/19/08 14:30:05

 */To:/* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com

 */Subject:/* RE: CSGlandular fever

  

 I would take 1 to 2 teaspoons every half hour, or 1 Tablespoon (1/2 
 ounce) every hour, at least for the first day or two.  Then taper 
 off.   If doing the smaller amount, do it at the more frequent rate.

  

  

  

   

  

  




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Re: CSsilver puppy

[Craig Chamberlin]

Hi Mary Ellen,

It is hidden in plain sight:)

odecoyo...@alltel.net





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Re: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial

[Carol Ann]

By comparison of the cost of the two units-

The new Micro-Particle Colloidal Silver Generator is regularly priced at only 
$339.95, but if you act within the next 15 days you pay only $239.95 -- a 
whopping $100 savings! Or, purchase two of these amazing new units and get each 
one for only $219.95 per unit

You're kidding, right?

Faith Gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote: The SilverEdge does a great job as 
well.  No  one is agonizing.  Faith G.
  
  
- Original Message - 
   From:CarolAnn 
   To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
   Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 9:50PM
   Subject: Re: CSInfo about the bestgeneratrorfor collodial
   

For crying out loud. Go with Ode's - if you want a simplemachine that does 
the job. Stop agonizing. 

Faith Gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote:   Or check out this 
selection of  generators:  http://www.thesilveredge.com/gen.shtml
  
 Faith G.
  
  
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   From:CarolAnn 
   To:silver-list@eskimo.com 
   Sent:Sunday, June 15, 2008 9:17 PM
   Subject:RE: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial
   

http://www.silverpuppy.com/

MaryEllen Murphy maryelle...@bellsouth.netwrote:What  
are some other generators that are Ionic silver

-Original  Message-
From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com]  
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 5:08 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:  Re: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial

I beg to  differ, at least in principle. An ion is smaller than a 
stable  
particle of any element. Don't confuse the poor girl. I respect  Frank 
Key's work, but this is getting to a nitpicking point that she  may be 
too sick to understand.

Ionically isolated silver is  going to be the most reasonable solution. 
I am not arguing with your  statement about the small size being more 
effective, but it is moot  to argue about nanometers when one is 
talking 
about ions. My  generator certainly produces ions, which are the 
smallest pieces of  silver that can exist.

kathryn

On Jun 15, 2008, at 4:31  PM, Jim Meissner yahoo wrote:

 Dear Mary  Ellen:

 Click on the link

  http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator

  No, not all generators are alike.
 There are no generators that  will produce a particle the size of an 
 atom.

  Frank Key, has developed a method that produces the smallest 
  particle
 possible and that is a group of atoms about .75  nanometers in size. 
 He has
 done some research that says  that the smaller particle means more 
 surface
 area and  best effects.

 Mesosilver page:  http://www.purestcolloids.com/mesosilver.htm

 Jim  Meissner www.MeissnerResearch.com

 -Original  Message-
 From: Mary Ellen Murphy  [mailto:maryelle...@bellsouth.net] 


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Regards,Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you
think..
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html



Regards, Carol Ann ~ The onlything that is different is how youthink..
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html   



Regards, Carol Ann ~ The only thing that is different is how you think..
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html
   

Re: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial

[Faith Gagne]

If you have what you want you should be fine with it.  Faith G.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Carol Ann 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 3:57 PM
  Subject: Re: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial


  By comparison of the cost of the two units-

  The new Micro-Particle Colloidal Silver Generator is regularly priced at only 
$339.95, but if you act within the next 15 days you pay only $239.95 -- a 
whopping $100 savings! Or, purchase two of these amazing new units and get each 
one for only $219.95 per unit

  You're kidding, right?

  Faith Gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote:
The SilverEdge does a great job as well.  No one is agonizing.  Faith G.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Carol Ann 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 9:50 PM
  Subject: Re: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial


  For crying out loud. Go with Ode's - if you want a simple machine that 
does the job. Stop agonizing. 

  Faith Gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote: 
Or check out this selection of generators:  
http://www.thesilveredge.com/gen.shtml

Faith G.


  - Original Message - 
  From: Carol Ann 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 9:17 PM
  Subject: RE: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial


  http://www.silverpuppy.com/

  Mary Ellen Murphy maryelle...@bellsouth.net wrote: 
What are some other generators that are Ionic silver

-Original Message-
From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com] 
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 5:08 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSInfo about the best generatrorfor collodial

I beg to differ, at least in principle. An ion is smaller than a 
stable 
particle of any element. Don't confuse the poor girl. I respect 
Frank 
Key's work, but this is getting to a nitpicking point that she may 
be 
too sick to understand.

Ionically isolated silver is going to be the most reasonable 
solution. 
I am not arguing with your statement about the small size being 
more 
effective, but it is moot to argue about nanometers when one is 
talking 
about ions. My generator certainly produces ions, which are the 
smallest pieces of silver that can exist.

kathryn

On Jun 15, 2008, at 4:31 PM, Jim Meissner yahoo wrote:

 Dear Mary Ellen:

 Click on the link

 http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator

 No, not all generators are alike.
 There are no generators that will produce a particle the size of 
an 
 atom.

 Frank Key, has developed a method that produces the smallest 
particle
 possible and that is a group of atoms about .75 nanometers in 
size. 
 He has
 done some research that says that the smaller particle means more 
 surface
 area and best effects.

 Mesosilver page: http://www.purestcolloids.com/mesosilver.htm

 Jim Meissner www.MeissnerResearch.com

 -Original Message-
 From: Mary Ellen Murphy [mailto:maryelle...@bellsouth.net] 


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RE: CSCMO, FYI

[Mary Ellen Murphy]

So CMO will not help if it is not the joints and it is more from
inflammation. 
How long does it start to work

Mary Ellen

-Original Message-
From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 4:58 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCMO, FYI

Mary Ellen Murphy wrote:

 Does the CMO help with any kind of pain..pain from lyme etc


CMO is not an analgesic. It resets the immune system so it no longer 
attacks the joints. The pain goes away upon healing of the joints.

Marshall

 Mary Ellen

 

 *From:* Marshalee Hallett [mailto:utahpug...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Thursday, June 19, 2008 10:35 AM
 *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* Re: CSCMO, FYI

 Hi Folks,

 I noticed a conversation on the List about CMO and had to toss in my 
 newest 2 cents worth. Not only has CMO completely stopped my arthritis 
 and made the bone spurs go away, now thanks to it my aging Pug dog is 
 RUNNING!! She is nearly 8 years old, and had started limping and 
 gimping around. So I bought some Cetyl-M brand CMO for dogs. She loves 
 them, they are meat flavored, and after taking only 3 of them I 
 noticed a difference in her. Now, 2 months later, she is playing with 
 the other dogs and even looks better overall. CMO, IMHO, is amazing 
 stuff, right up there with CS!! (grin...)

 Also in the news, my elderly elder sister has moved nearby. She is 66, 
 and has MS, diabetes, COPD and is recovering from shingles. I have her 
 on my homemade CS right now, as well as calcium/magnesium orotate, and 
 will get her on CMO soon. (She has put her 2 Pomeranian dogs on CS as 
 well.) She seems to be feeling somewhat better already; it has only 
 been 3 weeks. I`ll keep you posted!

 Love,

 Marshalee




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[RE]CSBB Archives: Food poisoning, botulinum, CS spectacular

[Brooks Bradley]

   Dear Malcolm, 
   The actual damage inflicted by botulinum is from the nerve toxins released as a result of the metabolism of the pathogen itselfnot from some active component designed to enervate a target victim. These toxins do not give evidence of being a life form.  Colloidal Silver has demonstrated (at least in our tests) no
observable control over the toxin proper.only upon the presenting bacterial colony. 
This being the case, it is reasonable to assume that "late-stage" cases would be, immediately, life-threatening and as such would demand antitoxin---among other modalities, in order to control/prevent pulmonary paralysisand death.  Because of the very painful presentations in the earlier stages the victim is unlikely to accept delays in attention. Fortunately,  several options are, usually, open for successful treatment.
Unless one ingests a rather large quantity of toxin-laden foodstuff, the immediate 
control of the reproductive capacity of the pathogen should be quite adequate for a favorable resolution.  Stopping the bacterial reproduction, stops the increase in the damaging nerve toxin.  While the Herxheimer's Reaction may be very uncomfortable/painful, it would be very unlikely to present life-threatening conditions.  The cardinal consideration for Botulism is 
to STOP the pathogen from reproducing and expanding volumetrically..AS RAPIDLY AS YOU CAN.  
 In answer to you query relating to pleomorphismwe have never encountered evidence 
for mutationseither way (virus to bacteria or bacteria to virus) among any of the pathogens presenting in the alimentary tract of humans.   
 Neither have we detected pathogenic, companion spore forms in botulinum insults (this does not mean they could not be present just that we have not detected them).
However, if pathogenic spore forms were acceptable companions to a majority of botulinum presentations, it is reasonable to assume they would be self-evident to some of the researchers-during the immediately past decades. 
 My apologies for being unable to furnish you a more detailed reply, but I must go now.
 Sincerely,  Brooks.



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 Subject : CSBB Archives: Food poisoning, botulinum, CS spectacular
 Date : Sun, 22 Jun 2008 02:24:34 +0800
 From : Rowena new...@aapt.net.au
 To : silver-list@eskimo.com


Brooks,

Thanks for your post and underlying experiments, however I remain confused 
about the roles of: first,  botulinum the active bacterium itself, second, 
the debris from dead bacterial residue and thus the notorious "Herx" effect, 
and third the toxin excreted by the live bacterium under a 'favorable' i.e. 
anaerobic non-acidic environment - for instance most conspicuously home 
canning.

I had accepted the third scenario that only the toxin was a threat, and this 
opinion was bolstered by the idea that stomach acid would summarily destroy 
any live botulinae, but that the toxin, if already present in the food, 
would survive the torments of cooking or canning.  Apparently my beliefs, 
fostered by the dept of agriculture pamphlets on home food preservation, are 
overly simplistic.

Can CS, either particulate or ionic, deactivate the toxin itself?  Or is the 
toxin relatively short lived?  Or does CS block its normal pathways, or does 
Gatorade facilitate them? Does the opportunity afforded the bacteria to 
'bloom' account in part or in whole for variations in response to CS 
therapy?  If so, how does it bloom in the presence of stomach acid?  Or does 
it instead hold out until it enters the gut?  Pleomorphism, spore
forms??

Confusion!!

Take care, Malcolm

At 08:36 PM 6/7/06 -0600, you wrote:

I agree with Marshall's general proposition.  About nine years ago we 
conducted rather detailed evaluations of the effects of EIS type colloidal 
silver, as an address against bacterial/Viral alimentary presentations.  We 
chose Botulinum as the primary; subject for our principal investigations 
(botulinum is the most dangerous among all of the types we investigated). 
Active research revealed that concentrations of CS as low as 3 ppm were 
effective, but rather large volumes were required for rapid-onset positive 
results (about 10 ounces initial dosage, followed by another 10 ounces in 
approximately 20 minutes).  Favorable response WAS NOT a direct effect of 
linear increase of PPM strength;  e.g.  10 ppm CS yielded favorable results 
4X as rapidly, as did 2 ppm concentrations ..for equivalent volumetric 
measure.  We did not encounter a single case of Jarisch-Herxheimer's 
reaction from the 60 cases involved among our volunteer, experimental, 
population.  I notice various speculations, from among the immediate 
previous postings, which speculate on the potential dangers of Herx 
reactions from possible toxic components among the bacterial debris residue.

While such does appear a possibility, actual practice did not produce 

CSRecent Posted Reply on Botulinum

[Brooks Bradley]

 Please accept my apologies, as I answered Malcolm's questions, instead of Rowena's.
I will attempt to rectify tomorrow.  I must go now.
 Sincerely,  Brooks Brfadley.


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CSParkinson's

[Day Sutton]

I have a friend diagnosed with pre-parkinsons, and another with the full
blown thing.  Massave shakes and all..
I haven't been paying attention to posts about this problem because I didn't
know anyone with it.  Now I seem to remember someone posting that drinking a
gallon of 5 to 10 ppm EIS daily would cure MS.  Is this the same root
cause???  Has anyone actually tried a gallon of CS daily?

-- 
Day Sutton
day.sut...@gmail.com

Re: CSColloidal Silver and H202

[Clayton Family]

sorry, I don't see it. What are your questions? Could you repost?

kathryn

On Jun 21, 2008, at 2:06 PM, Peter Converse wrote:


Hi all,
 
I posted a few questions on message # 362 on the 19th and had hoped to 
get some feedback. Thanks, Dee for your response. If anyone else could 
help me out here I would greatly appreciate it!

 
 
Thanks,
 
Peter


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CSMaking CS/Parkinson

[Mary Ellen Murphy]

I have been making CS all day and don't have  gallon yet.  Do all generators
take 2 hours to make 2 cups of silver.  This is not as easy as is sounds.
Mary Ellen

 

  _  

From: Day Sutton [mailto:day.sut...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 7:33 PM
To: Silver Post
Subject: CSParkinson's

 

I have a friend diagnosed with pre-parkinsons, and another with the full
blown thing.  Massave shakes and all..

I haven't been paying attention to posts about this problem because I didn't
know anyone with it.  Now I seem to remember someone posting that drinking a
gallon of 5 to 10 ppm EIS daily would cure MS.  Is this the same root
cause???  Has anyone actually tried a gallon of CS daily?

-- 
Day Sutton
day.sut...@gmail.com 

Re: CSMaking CS/Parkinson

[Clayton Family]

yes, it does take quite awhile.  Which generator do you have?


On Jun 21, 2008, at 9:00 PM, Mary Ellen Murphy wrote:

I have been making CS all day and don’t have  gallon yet.  Do all 
generators take 2 hours to make 2 cups of silver.  This is not as easy 
as is sounds.  Mary Ellen

 

From: Day Sutton [mailto:day.sut...@gmail.com]



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RE: CSMaking CS/Parkinson

[Mary Ellen Murphy]

I am borrowing one from a friend called the silver pulsar.  I was also
wondering how much to take to start.  I am trying to figure out what I need
to get with the silver puppy.  I understand that you need some kind of
stirrer with it.  I don't know whether to get the #1 kit or #2.

Thanks 
Mary Ellen

-Original Message-
From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com] 
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 9:30 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMaking CS/Parkinson

yes, it does take quite awhile.  Which generator do you have?


On Jun 21, 2008, at 9:00 PM, Mary Ellen Murphy wrote:

 I have been making CS all day and don’t have  gallon yet.  Do all 
 generators take 2 hours to make 2 cups of silver.  This is not as easy 
 as is sounds.  Mary Ellen
  

 From: Day Sutton [mailto:day.sut...@gmail.com]


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Re: CSMaking CS/

[seth sato]

Has anyone ever used this C maker
http://health2us.com/colloidal_silver/colloid.htm?  I have been on this
group for some time now and I have never seen one person talk about this
unit.  I have found it to be one of the best on the market and have used
it for at least 6 years.  It makes a gallon or 5 gallons depending on
which unit you choose and  it works great.  I have no affiliation nor
do I benefit from anyone buying this unit, my purpose in this is to find out if
anyone has tried this C maker.

I see people recommending what I think are inferior units compared to this one
and I wish to make sure everyone knows this option exist.  I look forward
to any feedback anyone has to offer.

Thanks

Seth


  

CSMaking CS/ Another Automatic Unit

[Wayne Fugitt]

Morning Seth,

At 12:07 AM 6/22/2008, you wrote:
I see people recommending what I think are inferior units compared to this 
one and I wish to make sure everyone knows this option exist.  I look 
forward to any feedback anyone has to offer.


  Not sure my ideas are feedback.  Maybe so.

  Nice web page, no beat around the bush.

  The circuit board looks good.

  Was glad to see the ppm listed, no exaggeration there.

  I tried to look at everything with a fair and open mind.

  There could be times that one gallon of CS would be worth the total price.

   Of course your statements, coming from a long term user count a lot.

   And the people need all the choices to make their decision.

   The only little statement, I have a problem with is the reference to a 
ppm Meter.


   No ppm meter exists in the world today.  Even the industry admits this, 
if you read all about meters and how they describe them.


   I do not favor the automatic generators for my use.  I use a two bit 
generator and do not care about the ppm.  My CS has proven itself many 
times over to me and many others.


  I would guess my CS is about 5, to 8 ppm.

  And I have to agree, many need an automatic unit.  It is easier and they 
do not have to work, think, or sweat to make a batch of CS.  Some want the 
easy way out.


 I consider your post important, and if I was considering an automatic 
unit, that one would be in the running.


  Wayne





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Re: CSMaking CS/

[Craig Chamberlin]

Hello Seth,

I believe the reason that no one else uses this device is for the
following reasons (granted I only spent about five minutes checking,
I'll leave the in depth dissection to others):

1) They have only had this web site for less than 1 year.
2) The claims made on the home page are outrageous.
3) And I don't recall ever seeing your name before.
4) You are wrong when you speak about others recommending inferior
units, if all you have ever used is this thing.

I think it is possible/very likely that you are a shill...just my
opinion.

Regards,

Craig





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CSTumor necrosis factor ( Why so Silent )

[Wayne Fugitt]

This is an important function, and has many effects within the body.
It is directly related to Flesh Eating Syndrome and can kill a person in 
short order.
24 hours or less.   ( no flesh eating bacteria exists, it never did, 
another lie )


You don't hear much about it.  I often wonder why ?

Could be the page was torn from your doctors medical book. ( Like many others )

Or it could be,  The AMA told them to keep their MOUTH SHUT !

Could be they skipped class on that day.

Nevertheless, it is the key to many ailments, disease, and many problems 
within the body.



===  Tumor necrosis factor


Tumor necrosis factor (TNF, cachexin or cachectin and formally known as 
tumor necrosis factor-alpha) is a 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cytokinecytokine 
involved in systemic 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflammationinflammation 
and is a member of a group of cytokines that all stimulate the 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acute_phase_reactionacute 
phase reaction.


TNF causes 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apoptosisapoptotic 
cell death, cellular proliferation, differentiation, 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflammationinflammation, 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tumorigenesistumorigenesis, 
and 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viral_replicationviral 
replication.


TNF's primary role is in the regulation of 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immune_cellsimmune 
cells.


Dysregulation and, in particular, overproduction of TNF have been 
implicated in a variety of human 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diseasediseases, 
as well as 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancercancer.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TNF-%CE%B1#cite_note-pmid11239407-0[1]


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