Re: CS>understanding making cs

[Dan Nave]

Usually, it is recommended to use hydrogen peroxide to clean electrodes and
container.  Use white paper towel or napkin if you need to, and rinse out
once or twice with distilled water.

You can test for colloidal silver by adding a small amount of salt to
colloidal silver in a small glass (shot glass or liqueur glass).  With
indirect light behind the glass, you should be able to see a blue haze
forming in the glass indicating silver chloride.  The bluish color is
proportional to the strength of the original colloidal silver.

Dan

On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 3:33 PM,  wrote:

>   Hi, group,
>
>I brought silver bullet from Utopia Silver along with TDS meter.  At the
> beginning making it, the water was light yellow and few ashes particles
> gathering around electrode.  Many sequencce of making CW, I found there were
> lots mass of ashes some sinking to the botton of the container.  So I
> cleaned the electrode and glass container with alcohol. To my surprise,  CW
> was clear no more yellow color and also no more particles around electrode.
> It happened at the time my son got serious eye infection that he had eye
> pain, watering, burry vision that he could not drive.  I put CS drops many
> times in one day but did not help the infection and had to go next day to
> ER for antibiotic drops to clear it up.  My TDS meter is broken.  I have no
> way to test the water.  What did I do wrong?  I did use store brought water,
> which I tested before was 0.02.  I am thinking to buy  better meter.  What's
> your suggetion?   Helen
>
>

RE: CS>understanding making cs

[Neville Munn]

Hi there Helen,
 
I never wash my production/storage vessels out, with anything, I just wipe them 
out with a paper towel when they're empty.  I remove electrodes from the water 
at regular timed intervals to clean them {paper towel again} and swap polarity 
over.  I never get anything like you speak of occurring.
 
Clear and/or yellow will always be in debate but as far as I'm concerned as 
long as that solution is absolutely transparent in appearance with no 
cloudiness, and gravity doesn't pull anything out of solution, it's perfectly 
fine and bio-available, be it clear or yellow.
 
I suggest you don't spend too much on a meter cos in my experience there's not 
enough difference between any of them to warrant too much expense.  I use three 
meters {Com 100, Hanna TDS1 and Com TDS-3}.  Meters are not the best for 
assessing much, but at least they give me a reference shutoff point for all my 
batches.  A meter and a laser tells me pretty much all I need to know as a home 
producer.  Of course none of the above is useful if making this stuff for 
resale, for that you certainly wouldn't consider using these piddly meters for 
testing purposes, a laboratory analysis would be required.
 

P.S.  If you produce any of larger volume than 500ml you'd be well advised to 
incorporate some form of stirring method as well.

 

P.P.S.  As for that infection you spoke of, in some circumstances I believe a 
stabilised solution is less effective than a solution produced and 
consumed/used IMMEDIATELY, or definitely before days end {ensuring maximum 
ionic silver content as opposed to a more stablized solution which contains a 
higher particulate silver content}.


N.







Date: Sat, 29 May 2010 13:33:40 -0700
From: dingyun...@att.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>understanding making cs








Hi, group,
 
   I brought silver bullet from Utopia Silver along with TDS meter.  At the 
beginning making it, the water was light yellow and few ashes particles 
gathering around electrode.  Many sequencce of making CW, I found there were 
lots mass of ashes some sinking to the botton of the container.  So I cleaned 
the electrode and glass container with alcohol. To my surprise,  CW  was clear 
no more yellow color and also no more particles around electrode.  It happened 
at the time my son got serious eye infection that he had eye pain, watering, 
burry vision that he could not drive.  I put CS drops many times in one day but 
did not help the infection and had to go next day to ER for antibiotic drops to 
clear it up.  My TDS meter is broken.  I have no way to test the water.  What 
did I do wrong?  I did use store brought water, which I tested before was 0.02. 
 I am thinking to buy  better meter.  What's your suggetion?   Helen
 

  
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Re: CS>Electrolyte ratios and amounts

[Norton, Steve]

Garrick,
I mostly use silver citrate and I am satisfied with it. But I do not very much 
very often nowadays. 
- Steve N



From: Garrick  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com  
Sent: Sat May 29 12:14:56 2010
Subject: Re: CS>Electrolyte ratios and amounts 


I got my tripotassium citrate on eBay. I have bought citric acid from The 
Chemistry Store and www.herbalcom.com  . Herbalcom 
is $3.25/lb with shipping in US included. Dolomite powder I get at a health 
food store. It is not expensive.

Have you settled on a mineral mix to take with colloidal silver to get it past 
the stomach intact? Will you be testing it?

garrick





On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Norton, Steve  wrote:


I got my tripotassium citrate on eBay. I have bought citric acid from 
The Chemistry Store and www.herbalcom.com. Herbalcom is $3.25/lb with shipping 
in US included. Dolomite powder I get at a health food store. It is not 
expensive.

 - Steve N

- Original Message -
From: Dan Nave 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Fri May 28 22:32:34 2010
Subject: Re: CS>Electrolyte ratios and amounts

Can you recommend an inexpensive source for the tripotassium citrate,
dolomite, and citric acid?

Thanks,

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CS>understanding making cs

[dingyung49]

Hi, group,
 
   I brought silver bullet from Utopia Silver along with TDS meter.  At the 
beginning making it, the water was light yellow and few ashes particles 
gathering around electrode.  Many sequencce of making CW, I found there were 
lots mass of ashes some sinking to the botton of the container.  So I cleaned 
the electrode and glass container with alcohol. To my surprise,  CW  was clear 
no more yellow color and also no more particles around electrode.  It happened 
at the time my son got serious eye infection that he had eye pain, watering, 
burry vision that he could not drive.  I put CS drops many times in one day but 
did not help the infection and had to go next day to ER for antibiotic drops to 
clear it up.  My TDS meter is broken.  I have no way to test the water.  What 
did I do wrong?  I did use store brought water, which I tested before 
was 0.02.  I am thinking to buy  better meter.  What's your suggetion?   Helen
 

Re: CS>Distilled water question

[Norton, Steve]

Welcome to the silver list. The post you responded to is a colloidal silver 
(CS) issue. A TDS meter helps estimate the purity of water used in making CS or 
the strength of a CS solution in parts per million (ppm). 
The silver list is dedicated to CS but other health related subjects are 
allowed when silver related posts are slow. Sometimes we get too carried away 
on a non CS subject and it is requested to move to the off topic list. If you 
have a CS question please step in and ask it anytime. 
IMO there seems to be a broad overlap of CS use and an understanding of 
treating many ailments. In some ailments CS helps where you would not expect it 
to or it needs to be used as part of a larger protocol. 
This is just my opinion but it appears to me that many have explored CS as a 
last resort after conventional medicine and other alternative medicines have 
failed to help them. That is why I came to it. Because of their efforts prior 
to using CS there are many on the silver list with knowledge and interest in 
health issues beyond CS. While not all subjects will interest you I hope you 
will find silver list membership interesting and beneficial. 

- Steve N



From: Lee Dorosz  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com  
Sent: Sat May 29 08:22:53 2010
Subject: Re: CS>Distilled water question 


Help!!!  I'm getting all these emails from something that begins with CS, and I 
haven't a clue what it is.  They are all about health in some fashion.  Can you 
tel me what kind of list I have become a part of?  Thank you.  Lee


On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Deborah Gerard  wrote:


I made a batch lastnight and it turned out slightly cloudy.  That never 
happened before so I tested the distilled water with a TDS and it came up 4.  
Could the water be bad?
Thanks in advance,
Debbie

Re: CS>Electrolyte ratios and amounts

[Garrick]

I got my tripotassium citrate on eBay. I have bought citric acid from The
Chemistry Store and www.herbalcom.com. Herbalcom is $3.25/lb with shipping
in US included. Dolomite powder I get at a health food store. It is not
expensive.

Have you settled on a mineral mix to take with colloidal silver to get it
past the stomach intact? Will you be testing it?

garrick




On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Norton, Steve wrote:

>  I got my tripotassium citrate on eBay. I have bought citric acid from The
> Chemistry Store and www.herbalcom.com. Herbalcom is $3.25/lb with shipping
> in US included. Dolomite powder I get at a health food store. It is not
> expensive.
>
>  - Steve N
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Dan Nave 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
> Sent: Fri May 28 22:32:34 2010
> Subject: Re: CS>Electrolyte ratios and amounts
>
> Can you recommend an inexpensive source for the tripotassium citrate,
> dolomite, and citric acid?
>
> Thanks,
>
>

Re: CS>Electrolyte ratios and amounts

[Garrick]

Interesting about seaweed. I get wild kelp and cook it, simmer it. Add a
little ginger juice at the end. Then eat it with a bit of raw onion. Maybe
that "hots" it up a bit to be more digestible. Plus traditionally the
Japanese would consume seaweeds as part of a soup. The soup leaches the
seaweed minerals into the broth making it more digestible as do the other
soup ingredients

Try seaweed cooked with nettles. Extremely nutrient dense

garrick





On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 7:29 PM, needling around wrote:

> Hi,
> In general seaweed is thermodynamically very 'cold' and therefore hard to
> digest.  One way to obtain the minerals is to make a seaweed 'soup' by
> letting it simmer in a kettle of water for awhile and the straining and
> pouring the 'soup' into a hot bath.  Sit in the bath for at least 1/2 hour.
> It works very well.  If you cannot do the body bath you can do a foot bath
> but do it more often.
>
> Don't throw out the seaweed it can be reboiled a couple of times.  You can
> even blend it after the second boil and then strain it.
> PT
>
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Dan Nave" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 10:54 AM
> Subject: Re: CS>Electrolyte ratios and amounts
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>Electrolyte ratios and amounts

[Norton, Steve]

I got my tripotassium citrate on eBay. I have bought citric acid from The 
Chemistry Store and www.herbalcom.com. Herbalcom is $3.25/lb with shipping in 
US included. Dolomite powder I get at a health food store. It is not expensive. 
 - Steve N

- Original Message -
From: Dan Nave 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Fri May 28 22:32:34 2010
Subject: Re: CS>Electrolyte ratios and amounts

Can you recommend an inexpensive source for the tripotassium citrate,
dolomite, and citric acid?

Thanks,

Dan

On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Norton, Steve  wrote:
> I recommended extra citric acid to try and help the dolomite convert to
> magnesium and calcium citrates because of their high bioavailability. I have
> a preference for the citrate versions.
>  - Steve N
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Dan Nave 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
> Sent: Fri May 28 13:22:56 2010
> Subject: Re: CS>Electrolyte ratios and amounts
>
> Would it be better to take these minerals in the dolomite form as
> citrate, or in the chloride form as in magnesium chloride etc?
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Norton, Steve 
> wrote:
>>
>> To get the potassium, calcium, magnesium, manganese and citric acid you
>> only need to blend tripotassium citrate (aka potassium citrate),
>> dolomite and citric acid. All readily available and inexpensive. To get
>> the amounts below of each, you would need roughly:
>>
>> 300mg tripotassium citrate
>> 200 mg of dolomite
>> As a SWAG, 100mg of citric acid
>>
>>  - Steve N
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Tad Winiecki [mailto:winie...@pacifier.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 12:00 AM
>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> Subject: Re: CS>Electrolyte ratios and amounts
>>
>> Garrick wrote:
>>> Why not mix the proper minerals and skip the sugars and fructose.
>>> Those minerals are the electrolytes that help colloidal silver go
>>> through the stomach intact. The fructose is not a factor. Gatorade has
>>
>>> fructose because the athlete also wants some carbohydrate replacement
>>> to revive. Not that I like fructose but this is the reasoning
>>>
>>> IOW make a Gatorade equivalent but omit all sugars.
>>>
>>> garrick
>>>
>>>
>> Alacer makes a product called ElectroMix.  It comes in individual
>> packages that mix with a liter of water.   No sugars. Ingredients in one
>>
>> serving, 4 per pkg.-
>> Potassium 100 mg
>> Calcium 25 mg
>> Magnesium 30 mg
>> Manganese 0.5 mg
>> Chromium 5 mcg
>> Stevia 2.5 mg
>> citric acid, malic acid, tapioca maltodextrin, natural flavor
>>
>> I used it for mineral replacement when using a sauna.  My DH used to use
>>
>> a product called Gookinaid (Hydralyte) which had glucose in it but I
>> like ElectroMix better.
>>
>> Nancy
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: CS>Silver Nanoparticles in pillow (Australia)

[Norton, Steve]

I believe Renee mentioned the pump-n-seal system:
http://www.pump-n-seal.com/

There are some diy alternatives as well:

http://www.judyofthewoods.net/pump.html

http://www.instructables.com/id/The-Alvin-Vacuum-Sealer/

- Steve N




From: mborg...@att.net  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com  
Sent: Sat May 29 09:19:41 2010
Subject: Re: CS>Silver Nanoparticles in pillow (Australia) 



Rowena,
Last week  you or someone mentioned how to preserve juices using a pump.
Thanks
Mary



From: Rowena 
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Sent: Thu, May 27, 2010 10:21:02 PM
Subject: CS>Silver Nanoparticles in pillow (Australia)

http://www.catchoftheday.com.au/smallfish_info.php?products_id=5338
With advanced technology like Cool Core ventilated memory foam which eliminates 
over-heating typically associated with other memory foam pillows, and Silver 
Guard protection; nano-silver particles that are naturally anti-mite, 
anti-mould, and anti-microbial, you can sleep sound.

Anyone ever looked into this or had such a pillow?
I kind of wonder about the memory foam.  Maybe that's where the silver is.  

R

Re: CS>Silver Nanoparticles in pillow (Australia)

[mborgert]

Rowena,
Last week  you or someone mentioned how to preserve juices using a pump.
Thanks
Mary



From: Rowena 
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com" 
Sent: Thu, May 27, 2010 10:21:02 PM
Subject: CS>Silver Nanoparticles in pillow (Australia)

http://www.catchoftheday.com.au/smallfish_info.php?products_id=5338
With advanced technology like Cool Core ventilated memory foam which eliminates 
over-heating typically associated with other memory foam pillows, and Silver 
Guard protection; nano-silver particles that are naturally anti-mite, 
anti-mould, and anti-microbial, you can sleep sound.

Anyone ever looked into this or had such a pillow?
I kind of wonder about the memory foam.  Maybe that's where the silver is.  

R

Re: CS>Distilled water question

[MaryAnn Helland]

CS is Colloidal Silver.  You have joined an internet chat group that discusses 
the use of CS for various health issues.  In order to receive these messages, 
you have to have intentionally joined the list.  Or someone in your household 
did.
Mary Ann





From: Lee Dorosz 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, May 29, 2010 8:22:53 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Distilled water question

Help!!!  I'm getting all these emails from something that begins with CS, and I 
haven't a clue what it is.  They are all about health in some fashion.  Can you 
tel me what kind of list I have become a part of?  Thank you.  Lee


On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Deborah Gerard  wrote:

I made a batch lastnight and it turned out slightly cloudy.  That never 
happened before so I tested the distilled water with a TDS and it came up 4.  
Could the water be bad?
>Thanks in advance,
>Debbie
>

Re: CS>Distilled water question

[Lee Dorosz]

Help!!!  I'm getting all these emails from something that begins with CS,
and I haven't a clue what it is.  They are all about health in some
fashion.  Can you tel me what kind of list I have become a part of?  Thank
you.  Lee

On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Deborah Gerard wrote:

> I made a batch lastnight and it turned out slightly cloudy.  That never
> happened before so I tested the distilled water with a TDS and it came up
> 4.  Could the water be bad?
> Thanks in advance,
> Debbie
>
>

CS>Distilled water question

[Deborah Gerard]

I made a batch lastnight and it turned out slightly cloudy.  That never 
happened before so I tested the distilled water with a TDS and it came up 4.  
Could the water be bad?
Thanks in advance,
Debbie