Re: CS>Tick Bite

[Ode Coyote]

Within 24 hours on the outside...48 would be pushing it but still better 
than 3 days

..the sooner the better , of course.

Ran across an interesting factoid...they actually "glue" themselves in, 
like superglue.


Ode


At 08:17 AM 7/5/2010 -0400, you wrote:

Ode:

What would you consider "pretty quickly".
We figure she found it between 24 and 48 hrs after being bitten on the 
inner thigh (looks like they always go for the tender spots)..


Del
- Original Message - From: "Ode Coyote" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 5:43 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Tick Bite





 If you get the tick off pretty quick, there is little chance of any 
problems.
I get tick bit about every 2 weeks and find one looking for a spot every 
few days.

Do the tick search daily if not twice a day.

I'd never be OFF ABX if I assumed the worst every time.

Ode


At 11:29 PM 7/4/2010 -0400, you wrote:
Does she have a bulls-eye?  I know this is an alternative list but in 
this case I would consider a dose of the appropriate antibiotics if it were me.

PT


- Original Message - From: "Del" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 10:31 PM
Subject: CS>Tick Bite



Hi:

My wife, Jane, was bitten by a tick while visiting her mother on 
Shelter Island, one of the Lyme capitals of the world.
Anybody out there with knowledge of what should be done immediately to 
deal with the possibility (probability?) of infection with Lyme?
My understanding is that if you catch it early, it is easier to 
eliminate, but doctors here in Vermont don't know much about dealing with Lyme.
There is actually too much information on the web, if you can believe 
that, she wants an answer fast and my head is spinning with the many 
Lyme articles I have already read, none of which were targeted at what 
to do right away if bitten.


We were told here that you have to wait four weeks to test to see if 
you have been exposed to Borrelia burgdorferi (Lyme spirochete), and 
then the test (not sure what test they are talking about) costs $200, 
is NOT covered by Medicare or our health insurance, and may or may not 
be reliable. Anybody know about that?


Thanks,
Del



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Re: CS>silver rods

[Ode Coyote]

  Roughness on a clean silver colored surface will appear whitish as will 
fine silver colored dust...has to do with many angles of light reflections.


Ode


At 01:17 PM 7/5/2010 +0100, you wrote:
I've just cleaned my silver rods in my ultra-sonic cleaner.  The thing is, 
they seemed to have turned white in places.  The question is: will this be 
a problem and what can have caused it?  Bits are still silver and I 
watched the black stuff come off in little clouds.  I hope I haven't 
ruined them as this is my last pair!  dee


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Re: CS>Tick Bite

[Ode Coyote]

microelectricitygermkil...@yahoogroups.com
To: microelectricitygermkil...@yahoogroups.com

I discovered the other day that some bugs had been feasting on my neck in 
the back just into the hairline. I had a large, sore, itchy bump.


I took a 9-volt battery and placed it with the electrodes on either side of 
the bump. First I wet the area with saliva and held the battery so that it 
just touched (too painful if too much contact). After 10 minutes, I had to 
go do something, but 20 minutes later, when I checked the bump, it was 
almost gone! The itching had stopped, with almost no soreness.


I can see the value of the 15K resistor (no stinging, right?). I just 
received a package of 200 of them, so I think I will start building them 
for my friends.


Terry Chamberlin

..From what I gather...
A "Godzilla" is but a 6 volt battery, [or any battery, really] some wire 
and a couple of salty wet sponges.
The current delivered depends on how well the electrolyte conducts over 
what area of skin its applied to.
Higher currents over smaller areas tend to cause electro-chemicals to build 
up in the skin faster than blood flow can wash them awaythe 
result...itchy red rashinessIOW "chemical burns" [not serious unless 
you're an idiot and don't stop with the discomfort ]
IMO  it's the acid or basic quality of those chemicals that provide the 
disruptive actions on venoms, parasites and bacterium..even cancer 
cells..and when the two products of electrically splitting salt apart 
re-combine, they become salt again.  That's acid on one pole [Hypochloris 
Acid] and basic [Sodium Hydroxide] on the other, switch polarity to 
neutralize the former chemical and end further burning.


 A self neutralizing, targeted, chemotherapy treatment.

 A current controlled CS generator can be used and not deliver more than 
its set current...

Or ANY DC power source and some common sense.

If you use silver electrodes and CS as the electrolyte, you induce silver 
iontophorosis...the direct injection of silver ions though the skin.


Ode


At 06:22 AM 7/5/2010 -0700, you wrote:

Is the godzilla a type of zapper?

is the a website?

Thanks


Paul Steel

h 508.520.6905

c 508.922.0519

The harder you work the luckier you get!





From: MaryAnn Helland 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, July 5, 2010 9:02:06 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Tick Bite

Del -- it's not true that your Godzilla is only useful if used right 
away.  Some years back I got into a nest of ticks while on a trip to 
Virginia.  I found around 20 ticks and bites on me, four of them with Lyme 
rashes.  By the time I realized what I was dealing with, I had two days of 
traveling to get home.  The bites with rashes were packed with 
colloidal-silver soaked bandages, covered with saran wrap and taped in 
place, and left there for the trip home.  I also drank CS all the way 
back.  When I got home, I contacted a homeopathic doctor and my 
chiropractor.  The chiropractor treated the bites with his electro-stim 
machine -- the same one that is used for muscle treatments, etc.  The 
homeopathic doctor told me to continue with CS but to add Goldenseal 
capsules (three a day if I remember correctly) and Echinacea tea.


So -- except for Colloidal Silver, treatment was started effectively one 
week after the bites -- and I've never suffered any signs or effects of 
Lyme.  The point of the story is that electricity wasn't applied until a 
week later -- and that's what effectively dealt with the large, swollen, 
itchy sites of the bulls-eye tick bites.  Since then, I use my Godzilla on 
every tick bite -- never waiting to see if a bulls-eye develops.  If 
you're two days out from the bite, and she's on antibiotics, you can still 
use the Godzilla to destroy the enzymes in the skin surrounding the bite.

HTH.
MA


From: Del 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, July 5, 2010 7:31:55 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Tick Bite

Rowena:

Thanks for all your information.  I have forwarded it to Jane.  It will 
take a while to absorb.

Thanks to all others who have responded.
She was back home within 48 hrs of being bitten, and the doc here 
immediately put her on Doxycycline, 100 mg twice a day for 3 days.

According to some postings, that should be continued for more days.
She is also using some colloidal silver, which she does not like to use 
because it previously turned her cuticles silvery gray.
I am trying to persuade her to use my olive leaf, oregano oil combination 
(which I take twice a day) - she is a bit fearful of that because I had 
such strong detox symptoms when I first started using it.
The Salt/C protocol may be too strong for her.  She is very sensitive to 
all meds and supplements.  However, she has not reacted to the Doxy yet.
I have a Godzilla zapper from V.  We also have the therapik, but my 
understanding is, it is only useful if you get the bite right away.
She has already tried the Bentonite clay (with apple cider vinegar I 

Re: CS>2 items

[Ode Coyote]

Trichonosis is caused by a multi celled parasite.
 CS will make the parasite more healthy.

 A Zapper or MMS [very much the same thing only more dangerous ] should 
kill off the little worms.


http://www.medicinenet.com/trichinosis/article.htm

Ode

At 10:40 AM 7/5/2010 -0700, you wrote:

Hi There;
  New to the site, but have a 'burning' question.  Any information on CS 
for trichonosis?Seems I have it in my eyes.  Which of course means it is 
in the central nervous system.  I have realized something was wrong for a 
long time, but  have been occupies with health issues on Hubby, and of 
course, "The cobblers children have no shoes".  Same old story, right?  I 
am going to inject some CS full strength IV, but have other alternatives 
which I use too.  Such as essential oils and some other things.  Just 
wondered if anybody else had had the problem.  Mine seems to have been 
the reason for some central nervous tremors, mimicking Parkinsons 
disease, and other subtle effects.

   Many Thanks Jmmie

From: sol 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, July 4, 2010 8:26:32 PM
Subject: Re: CS>2 items

Shirley Reed wrote:.

>  Now regarding the use of lavender for burns -- is it used full 
strength or diluted??  If diluted, what dilution is recommended??  Is it 
put directly on the burned area?tia  pj

>
I use it full strength for burns...it stopped the pain from splashed 
boiling grease nearly instantaneously. I applied it a couple more times 
and the next day had not even any red marks. (no CS used on this one).


I also applied it to a burn on my thumb where I tried to pick up the lid 
of a roaster fresh from a 400 degree oven. Took about 45 min to get rid of 
that pain, and I did have a deep "brand" that was tender for a couple 
days, but it healed quickly, though the burned skin sloughed off. Don't 
remember using any CS on this burn.


Also applied it when a pet bit through a thumbnail and into the nail bed. 
It also quickly stopped that pain. Used  CS after the pain stopped.


Because of the speed of pain relief and healing lavender essential oil is 
always what I reach for FIRST.

sol



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Re: CS>Tick Bite

[Ode Coyote]

It's the electro-chemicals produced BY the DC current  that transmits the 
DC current that kills the microbes.


Electrical current doesn't travel in a liquid like it does in a wire, it 
creates ion exchange chemicals from blood and electrolyte salt to transport 
electrons around.



One [Hypochlorus Acid ] is very similar to MMS.  only a LOT safer as you 
can control concentrations and locations in real time with the twist of a 
potentiometer knob or Off switch, while, with MMS...you are stuck with 
assimilating whatever dose you took and too high a dose can be quite 
dangerously toxic.


ode

Del,

   Get yourself a baby Godzilla device and use it on the bite pronto.  It 
will kill any parassite or microbe that may have been implanted.  Go to 
microelectricitygermkiller group on Yahoo.  They have pictures on how to 
make your own from batteries, wire, and sponges.  You can buy a good on 
from "V" at lig...@theledman.net  Good luck.The direct DC current at 
around 6 volts is what kills the microbes.


Bob 



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Re: CS>2 items ( skin problems--Thanks to Brooks Bradley & Mike

[Ode Coyote]

  I don't see that glycerin is an active ingredient, but serves as a 
moisturizer, so, any water soluble moisturizer should do the same 
thingperhaps Aloe?


Ode

At 04:46 PM 7/5/2010 -0400, you wrote:

Thanks Lois,
Unfortunately I am sensitive to glycerin.  Any thoughts?
I will check for Brooks skin recipe!
PT

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From: zzekel...@aol.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: CS>2 items ( skin problems--Thanks to Brooks Bradley & Mike

In a message dated 7/5/2010 11:31:38 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
ptf2...@bellsouth.net writes:

Hi,
Would the NuStock also be good for humans with skin problems?  Is itching a
requirement?
Thanks.
PT
Hi PT, as for skin problems---I'm not sure how long ago it was but I read 
a post by Brooks Bradley . He gave a recipe for skin problems. Since 
then--I have helped 7 people stop skin problem.. Mostly psoriasis.. 2 
others were going crazy with shingles & said they "would try anything !!! 
" The ones with psoriasis are not having any more problems & the 2 with 
shingles have not had a reoccurrence  of their problems... The 2 with 
shingles also take a tsp. of EIS orally. { not the mix } I'm not sure if 
it is every day or not... I've even had them say I should bottle it & 
sell it... I just mix it up & give it to them..The mix is---75 % EIS---10 
% DMSO---15 % glycerine.   A Great Big Thanks to Brooks Bradley for this 
from the folks here he has helped...& to Mike for having this site !!!  Lois



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Re: CS>2 items ( what to use in place of glycerin in brooks mix ??

[M. G. Devour]

PT wrote:
> Unfortunately I am sensitive to glycerin.   Any thoughts?
> I will check for Brooks skin  recipe!

Lois replied:
> I'm not sure what you can use in place of the  glycerine. Someone on
> this site may know. If not maybe they know a way to e-mail  Brooks..

Aloe springs to mind? In part, I'm sure the glycerine is just to keep 
the CS/DMSO mixture from evaporating or running off. Whether it has 
beneficial effects in itself I do not know.

Be well,

Mike D.

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Re: CS>Burns

[MaryAnn Helland]

Ode sells a kit for making silver gel from your own EIS.  It's reasonably 
priced.
MA





From: Jane MacRoss 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, July 5, 2010 10:54:04 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Burns


I'm not sure of the spelling - but it is wonderful for burns was used in 
hospitals - not sure if it is used any more tho: Silver Sulfadiazine I think - 
no I haven't made cream with CS - a gel might be better - we use guar gum for 
thickening patient's food - I wonder if that would work - then it wouldn't 
dilute the liquid?
 
 http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=&q=ssd+cream+for+burns&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B3GGGL_en___AU344&ie=UTF-8&aq=1&oq=SSD+cream
 
Jane 

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>From: Lisa 
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
>Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 9:55 AM
>Subject: RE: CS>Burns
>
>
>What’s SSD? And do you have a recipe for silver cream? I have yet to be able 
>to make it successfully (without having to buy a whole bunch of new stuff).
> 
>Lisa
> 

Re: CS>2 items ( skin problems--Thanks to Brooks Bradley & Mike

[ZZekelink]

In a message dated 7/5/2010 8:00:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
aera...@gmail.com writes:

And how much of the mix do they take?
TIA!!
Gayla

Hi Gayla, The mix is to be used topically-- Because  DMSO is a carrier used 
to carry the CS, (EIS)  to the problem I remind  those that I give "the 
Mix" to that they should be sure their skin is clean  before they put it 
on..(the DMSO will carry what ever is on the skin along with  the CS. )  I also 
suggest that they put it on a very small area first to  make sure there is not 
a reaction to "the Mix", It may smart a bit when it first  goes on but that 
seems to go away fast... ( the glycerin is to keep the skin  from drying..)
The CS (EIS) is what they take by  mouth... The 2 people with shingles 
took 1 tsp CS at a time.  after awhile  they didn't really measure...Just 
took a swig 1 or 2 times a day. After awhile  they didn't even need it every 
day..   
I know you can take DMSO orally  with CS but I doubt the glycerin is a 
good idea to take by mouth... Maybe  someone on the list can answer that ??? 
 Lois

Re: CS>2 items ( skin problems--Thanks to Brooks Bradley & Mike

[needling around]

Sensitive to aloe also.  It has been difficult since so many products carry 
these two ingredients being that they are natural.

PT

- Original Message - 
From: "Ode Coyote" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 6:14 AM
Subject: Re: CS>2 items ( skin problems--Thanks to Brooks Bradley & Mike


  I don't see that glycerin is an active ingredient, but serves as a 
moisturizer, so, any water soluble moisturizer should do the same 
thingperhaps Aloe?


Ode

At 04:46 PM 7/5/2010 -0400, you wrote:

Thanks Lois,
Unfortunately I am sensitive to glycerin.  Any thoughts?
I will check for Brooks skin recipe!
PT

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From: zzekel...@aol.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: CS>2 items ( skin problems--Thanks to Brooks Bradley & Mike

In a message dated 7/5/2010 11:31:38 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
ptf2...@bellsouth.net writes:

Hi,
Would the NuStock also be good for humans with skin problems?  Is 
itching a

requirement?
Thanks.
PT
Hi PT, as for skin problems---I'm not sure how long ago it was but I read 
a post by Brooks Bradley . He gave a recipe for skin problems. Since 
then--I have helped 7 people stop skin problem.. Mostly psoriasis.. 2 
others were going crazy with shingles & said they "would try anything !!! 
" The ones with psoriasis are not having any more problems & the 2 with 
shingles have not had a reoccurrence  of their problems... The 2 with 
shingles also take a tsp. of EIS orally. { not the mix } I'm not sure if 
it is every day or not... I've even had them say I should bottle it & 
sell it... I just mix it up & give it to them..The mix is---75 % EIS---10 
% DMSO---15 % glycerine.   A Great Big Thanks to Brooks Bradley for this 
from the folks here he has helped...& to Mike for having this site !!! 
Lois



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Re: CS>2 items ( skin problems--Thanks to Brooks Bradley & Mike

[needling around]

Glycerin is an ingredient in many products for internal consumption but there 
may be a 'grade' issue.

I'm not sure that I would use the polymer that Ode has on his site without 
checking it out since the mix has DMSO in it.  I would think the DMSO would 
also carry the polymer into the body and I don't know what that would do.

I would imagine that a little gelatin or agar could also be used as a thickener 
but it would also have shelf life issues, perhaps???  Anyone have any ideas 
about this.  Also, what about either of those two being carried into the body?  
Or perhaps coconut oil could be utilized somehow to keep the skin moisturized???
PT
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  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 9:32 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>2 items ( skin problems--Thanks to Brooks Bradley & Mike


  In a message dated 7/5/2010 8:00:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
aera...@gmail.com writes:
And how much of the mix do they take?
TIA!!
Gayla
  Hi Gayla, The mix is to be used topically-- Because DMSO is a carrier used to 
carry the CS, (EIS)  to the problem I remind those that I give "the Mix" to 
that they should be sure their skin is clean before they put it on..(the DMSO 
will carry what ever is on the skin along with the CS. )  I also suggest that 
they put it on a very small area first to make sure there is not a reaction to 
"the Mix", It may smart a bit when it first goes on but that seems to go away 
fast... ( the glycerin is to keep the skin from drying..)
  The CS (EIS) is what they take by mouth... The 2 people with shingles 
took 1 tsp CS at a time.  after awhile they didn't really measure...Just took a 
swig 1 or 2 times a day. After awhile they didn't even need it every day..   
  I know you can take DMSO orally with CS but I doubt the glycerin is a 
good idea to take by mouth... Maybe someone on the list can answer that ??? Lois

Re: CS>CS - Chiggers -local antihistamine - ant bites etc

[ZZekelink]

 
In a message dated 7/5/2010 10:42:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
sunwatercl...@yahoo.com writes:

I was told that Vicks vapor rub or any similar would reduce those nasty  
red ant bites within a day.   I think it's something to do with the  
eucalyptus, menthol.. that's in those things.


I spray CS plus oregano oil on all my bites.. it's semi relieving.. but  
not perfect..




In a discussion about menthol on the list I learned  about " White Monkey 
Holding Peach "-- ( I know -- crazy name ) but is has  more menthol in it 
than is allowed in the U.S,  When a bugger bites me-- I  put a small amount on 
the bite & problem is gone... I did a search & put  in the name..Ordered 
from a company in Thiland... I luv the stuff...  Lois

Re: CS>2 items ( skin problems--Thanks to Brooks Bradley & Mike

[Gayla Roberts]

Thanks. I will keep this in my files.
Gayla
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  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 6:32 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>2 items ( skin problems--Thanks to Brooks Bradley & Mike


  In a message dated 7/5/2010 8:00:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
aera...@gmail.com writes:
And how much of the mix do they take?
TIA!!
Gayla
  Hi Gayla, The mix is to be used topically-- Because DMSO is a carrier used to 
carry the CS, (EIS)  to the problem I remind those that I give "the Mix" to 
that they should be sure their skin is clean before they put it on..(the DMSO 
will carry what ever is on the skin along with the CS. )  I also suggest that 
they put it on a very small area first to make sure there is not a reaction to 
"the Mix", It may smart a bit when it first goes on but that seems to go away 
fast... ( the glycerin is to keep the skin from drying..)
  The CS (EIS) is what they take by mouth... The 2 people with shingles 
took 1 tsp CS at a time.  after awhile they didn't really measure...Just took a 
swig 1 or 2 times a day. After awhile they didn't even need it every day..   
  I know you can take DMSO orally with CS but I doubt the glycerin is a 
good idea to take by mouth... Maybe someone on the list can answer that ??? Lois

Re: CS>2 items ( skin problems--Thanks to Brooks Bradley & Mike

[ZZekelink]

 
In a message dated 7/6/2010 9:39:25 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
ptf2...@bellsouth.net writes:

Sensitive to aloe also.  It has been difficult since so many  products 
carry 
these two ingredients being that they are  natural.
PT



Hi PT, The glycerin is just to keep the skin from  drying out. You could 
just mix the CS  maybe 90%  &  DMSO  10%   put that on your skin & after an 
hour or so put on a lotion  that you can use to keep your skin from drying , 
You could even use virgin olive  oil .( I don't know about using it in "the 
Mix" but should be fine  after a waiting period to put on your skin. ) .Lois 

Re: CS>CS - Chiggers -local antihistamine - ant bites etc

[needling around]

The thing is that all one needs to do for anything that is red and itchy (not 
poisonous) is put some blue light on it and the itch will be gone.  In some 
cases another dose of blue light might be required but that should do it.
PT
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  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 9:59 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>CS - Chiggers -local antihistamine - ant bites etc


  In a message dated 7/5/2010 10:42:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
sunwatercl...@yahoo.com writes:
I was told that Vicks vapor rub or any similar would reduce those nasty red 
ant bites within a day.   I think it's something to do with the eucalyptus, 
menthol.. that's in those things.


I spray CS plus oregano oil on all my bites.. it's semi relieving.. but not 
perfect..
 
  In a discussion about menthol on the list I learned about " White Monkey 
Holding Peach "-- ( I know -- crazy name ) but is has more menthol in it than 
is allowed in the U.S,  When a bugger bites me-- I put a small amount on the 
bite & problem is gone... I did a search & put in the name..Ordered from a 
company in Thiland... I luv the stuff... Lois

Re: CS>2 items ( skin problems--Thanks to Brooks Bradley & Mike

[needling around]

Thanks, Lois.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: zzekel...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 10:20 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>2 items ( skin problems--Thanks to Brooks Bradley & Mike


  In a message dated 7/6/2010 9:39:25 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
ptf2...@bellsouth.net writes:
Sensitive to aloe also.  It has been difficult since so many products carry 
these two ingredients being that they are natural.
PT

  Hi PT, The glycerin is just to keep the skin from drying out. You could just 
mix the CS  maybe 90%  &  DMSO 10%   put that on your skin & after an hour or 
so put on a lotion that you can use to keep your skin from drying , You could 
even use virgin olive oil .( I don't know about using it in "the Mix" but 
should be fine after a waiting period to put on your skin. ) .Lois 

Re: CS>silver rods

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Thanks Ode.  dee

On 6 Jul 2010, at 10:12, Ode Coyote wrote:

> 
> 
>  Roughness on a clean silver colored surface will appear whitish as will fine 
> silver colored dust...has to do with many angles of light reflections.
> 
> Ode
> 
> 


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RE: CS>Tick Bite

[sms]

Ode,
Your statement below is generally not true.  Even if one gets the tick off
quickly, as you suggest, the contents of the tick's stomach may have been
regurgitated into the bite and the blood and lymph will carry it to all
parts of the body, quickly, and then start reproducing or hiding until it is
safe to start reproducing.  This includes the brain and is known as
neurolyme.  We have to remember that the general population, unlike you, do
not have CS running through their body, nor do most even know what CS is. 

The reason I say your statement is generally not true is that, many people
do not know how to correctly remove a tick without squeezing it.  And if the
tick should happen to be infected, then no matter how quickly you got the
tick off of the body, the contents of the tick's stomach will have been
regurgitated into the bite. Some people are very, very lucky and have immune
systems that are strong and healthy, but read below, and you will see that
not even that is a guarantee that a future attack from that specific bite
will not ever surface.

What will matter and make all the difference to a life is the means by which
one eliminates or kills off the spirochetes and co-infections delivered into
the system through the bite.  One may have an excellent immune system which
will help eliminate it or not.  But why take the chance.  This is a life
threatening disease which can lay dormant in the body for years for when the
immune system is not up to par.  These spirochetes are extremely intelligent
and know when to begin their attack.  They are pleomorphic organisms and
also some have been designed by humans for biowarfare.  The immune system
cannot recognize those designed for biowarfare and so doesn't know that it
has been attacked and do not rev up to fight what they don't recognize.

ABX is indicated for any tick bite, starting with Doxycycline, at around 400
to 600mg/day, until the person knows for absolute certain that they have not
been infected or for taking for a minimum of 4-6 weeks, period.  End of
story.  A bulleseye rash is only one indication.  You don't necessarily have
to have a bullseye rash to be infected.  Many Lyme victims have never had a
bullseye rash and they have Lyme Disease.
sash  

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CS>Gallstones

[sms]

Peter,
A few things come to mind.  
One thing is Apple Cider Vinegar a wondrous natural remedy for
disintegrating kidney and gall stones naturally.  But be sure that you get
the vinegar with mother (Bragg's brand).  Google (or other) ACV and
gallstones.

Second thing is to visit Dr. Sandra Cabot's Website at the link below.
Search Gall Bladder.  She is renowned for her natural remedies, for
prevention and healing, and she has several books you can see at Amazon or
on her website.
   
http://www.liverdoctor.com/index.php?page=liver-problems&subpage=gall-bladde
r

Third, I have saved quite a few remedies over the years that describe what
to do about gallstones to avoid surgery.  I can forward those to you if you
like.  Maybe something in them will be of help.  Let me know, okay.

Sash

From: Peter Shaw [mailto:hea...@sitacs.com] 
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 10:21 PM
To: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com
Subject: SO>Gallstones

Hi Just had a check up and they found 3 small gallstones.
The largest being about 3mm.
Immediately they want to do surgery to remove my gallbladder.
Anybody tried any natural solutions to flush them out?
Thanks

Peter


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[Marshall Dudley]

I don't think CS will help trichonosis.  But it is my understanding that 
MMS will take them out in a matter of hours.  You might want to go easy, 
or  you might get a deadly herx.


Marshall

Jimmie Cairn wrote:

Hi There;
  New to the site, but have a 'burning' question.  Any information on 
CS for trichonosis?Seems I have it in my eyes.  Which of course means 
it is in the central nervous system.  I have realized something was 
wrong for a long time, but  have been occupies with health issues on 
Hubby, and of course, "The cobblers children have no shoes".  Same old 
story, right?  I am going to inject some CS full strength IV, but have 
other alternatives which I use too.  Such as essential oils and some 
other things.  Just wondered if anybody else had had the problem.  
Mine seems to have been the reason for some central nervous tremors, 
mimicking Parkinsons disease, and other subtle effects.

   Many Thanks Jmmie

*From:* sol 
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Sun, July 4, 2010 8:26:32 PM
*Subject:* Re: CS>2 items

Shirley Reed wrote:.
 
>  Now regarding the use of lavender for burns -- is it used full 
strength or diluted??  If diluted, what dilution is recommended??  Is 
it put directly on the burned area?tia  pj
> 
I use it full strength for burns...it stopped the pain from 
splashed boiling grease nearly instantaneously. I applied it a couple 
more times and the next day had not even any red marks. (no CS used on 
this one).


I also applied it to a burn on my thumb where I tried to pick up the 
lid of a roaster fresh from a 400 degree oven. Took about 45 min to 
get rid of that pain, and I did have a deep "brand" that was tender 
for a couple days, but it healed quickly, though the burned skin 
sloughed off. Don't remember using any CS on this burn.


Also applied it when a pet bit through a thumbnail and into the nail 
bed. It also quickly stopped that pain. Used  CS after the pain stopped.


Because of the speed of pain relief and healing lavender essential oil 
is always what I reach for FIRST.

sol



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[Jane MacRoss]

There is also something called "Stonebreaker Tea" which a company sent me as 
a freebie - might be worth checking out.


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Re: CS>CS - Chiggers -local antihistamine - ant bites etc

[MaryAnn Helland]

Will you elaborate on *blue light* please?  Thanks.
MA





From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net



The thing is that all one needs to do for anything that is red and itchy (not 
poisonous) is put some blue light on it and the itch will be gone.  In some 
cases another dose of blue light might be required but that should do it.
PT

RE: EXTERNAL:Re: CS>2 items ( skin problems--Thanks to Brooks Bradley & Mike

[Norton, Steve]

Glycerin and other humectants have been shown to act as transdermal penetration 
enhancers. Some possible alternates for glycerin are glyceryl triacetate, 
sorbitol, polyethylene glycol, propylene glycol, polysaccharides (such as 
fructose, glucose, maltose, etc.), corn syrup, polyols, urea and derivatives 
and natural honey. 

See references below.

 - Steve N


http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~db=all~content=a11685
Moisturizing Lotions can Increase Transdermal Absorption of the Herbicide 
2,4-Dichlorophenoxacetic Acid Across Hairless Mouse Skin  

" Moisturizing lotions can be an effective treatment for occupationally induced 
dry skin. These compounds are designed to be hygroscopic and retain water to 
keep the stratum corneum hydrated, while at the same time enhancing the horny 
layer to prevent increases in transepidermal water loss (TEWL). Skin hydration 
levels, however, are known to influence barrier properties. The purpose of this 
work was to compare skin moisture levels induced by four commercially available 
moisturizing lotions with their capacity as transdermal penetration enhancers 
using the herbicide 2,4-dichlorophenoxyacetic acid (2,4-D) as a model chemical. 
Further, the effect of moisturizing the skin after washing with sodium lauryl 
sulfate (SLS) on transdermal absorption was determined. Skin moisture levels 
were also measured noninvasively and were correlated to penetration 
enhancement. Hairless mouse skin was pretreated with commercially available 
moisturizing lotions either with or without SLS washing and in vitro 
permeability studies were performed with the herbicide 2,4-D. The data 
demonstrate that pretreatment with three of the four lotions tested increased 
the transdermal absorption of 2,4-D as evidenced by cumulative penetration or 
faster lag times (p < 0.05). Skin moisture levels correlated with the 
penetration enhancement capabilities of the lotion. Washing the skin with 5% 
SDS increased the transdermal absorption of 2,4-D (p < 0.05) and application of 
moisturizing lotions increased the absorption further. In summary moisturizing 
lotions may influence transdermal penetration of the skin, with the more 
effective moisturizers having a greater effect on 2,4-D absorption."


http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/4950475/description.html
Novel film-forming gels with high concentrations of humectants and emollients

" Examples of humectants useful in this invention include glycerine, sorbitol, 
polyethylene glycol, propylene glycol, polysaccharides (such as fructose, 
glucose, maltose, etc.), corn syrup, polyols, urea and derivatives and natural 
honey. Preferred humectants are propylene glycol and glycerine."


http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20080286349
SYSTEMS, DEVICES, AND METHODS FOR PASSIVE TRANSDERMAL DELIVERY OF ACTIVE AGENTS 
TO A BIOLOGICAL INTERFACE

" The passive transdermal delivery device of claim 14 further comprising one or 
more humectants selected from urea, glycerine, propylene glycol, glyceryl 
triacetate, and polyols."


From: needling around [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 1:46 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL:Re: CS>2 items ( skin problems--Thanks to Brooks Bradley & 
Mike

Thanks Lois,
Unfortunately I am sensitive to glycerin.  Any thoughts?
I will check for Brooks skin recipe!
PT


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RE: CS>Tick Bite, sms, Ode

[Malcolm]

http://www.jstor.org/pss/3283916

Hi Sash;

You may find the above article interesting.  I am particularly
interested by the comment that Borellia Burgdorferi is transmitted from
infected ticks to humans within 8 to 12 hours; more in line with my
knowledge of local acquaintances' experiences when infected.

I'm uncertain as to whether the tick regurgitates when squeezed, whether
the spirochete resides in the saliva and/or anaesthetic the tick uses in
penetrating its host or merely in the tick's stomach, and subsequently
the anaesthetic the tick uses upon DEtaching from its host; a
little-examined yet apparent sequel to the "normal" feeding cycle that
seems to involve an antihistamine type (non)reaction quite different
from what you get when the tick was forcibly removed and/or often when
it vectored a disease.

There's lots yet to be learned, for sure! Have you read Lab 257 by
Christopher Carroll??

Take care,
Malcolm  


On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 09:07 -0700, s...@emotap.com wrote:
> Ode,
> Your statement below is generally not true.  Even if one gets the tick off
> quickly, as you suggest, the contents of the tick's stomach may have been
> regurgitated into the bite and the blood and lymph will carry it to all
> parts of the body, quickly, and then start reproducing or hiding until it is
> safe to start reproducing.  This includes the brain and is known as
> neurolyme.  We have to remember that the general population, unlike you, do
> not have CS running through their body, nor do most even know what CS is. 
> 
> The reason I say your statement is generally not true is that, many people
> do not know how to correctly remove a tick without squeezing it.  And if the
> tick should happen to be infected, then no matter how quickly you got the
> tick off of the body, the contents of the tick's stomach will have been
> regurgitated into the bite. Some people are very, very lucky and have immune
> systems that are strong and healthy, but read below, and you will see that
> not even that is a guarantee that a future attack from that specific bite
> will not ever surface.
> 
> What will matter and make all the difference to a life is the means by which
> one eliminates or kills off the spirochetes and co-infections delivered into
> the system through the bite.  One may have an excellent immune system which
> will help eliminate it or not.  But why take the chance.  This is a life
> threatening disease which can lay dormant in the body for years for when the
> immune system is not up to par.  These spirochetes are extremely intelligent
> and know when to begin their attack.  They are pleomorphic organisms and
> also some have been designed by humans for biowarfare.  The immune system
> cannot recognize those designed for biowarfare and so doesn't know that it
> has been attacked and do not rev up to fight what they don't recognize.
> 
> ABX is indicated for any tick bite, starting with Doxycycline, at around 400
> to 600mg/day, until the person knows for absolute certain that they have not
> been infected or for taking for a minimum of 4-6 weeks, period.  End of
> story.  A bulleseye rash is only one indication.  You don't necessarily have
> to have a bullseye rash to be infected.  Many Lyme victims have never had a
> bullseye rash and they have Lyme Disease.
> sash  
> 
> From: "Ode Coyote"  
> If you get the tick off pretty quick, there is little chance of any
> problems. I get tick bit about every 2 weeks and find one looking for a spot
> every few days. Do the tick search daily if not twice a day. 
> 
> I'd never be OFF ABX if I assumed the worst every time. 
> Ode
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RE: CS>Tick Bite

[Renee]

You know, I'm wondering about this--with oil pulling they say to do it for
20 minutes as this is how long it takes for the blood to circulate through
the body.  Since the mouth membranes absorb directly into the blood stream,
oil pulling this way does remarkable things for people.

So--couldn't you put some strong natural herbal anti-bacterial/viral/fungal
in some oil and swish that around for 20 minutes after finding a tick bite? 
Say, do this several times a day for the first couple days?  That would
by-pass the digestion and get the anti-everything into the same places the
virus would be delivered by the blood.  And perhaps the virus wouldn't have
enough time to get established before the herbs/MMS/whatever got to it and
killed it?

Just pondering.

Samala,
Renee

 
---Original Message---
 
Your statement below is generally not true.  Even if one gets the tick off
quickly, as you suggest, the contents of the tick's stomach may have been
regurgitated into the bite and the blood and lymph will carry it to all
parts of the body, quickly, and then start reproducing or hiding until it is
safe to start reproducing.  

RE: CS>Tick Bite, sms, Ode

[sms]

Thanks for the link Malcolm.  I'll definitely read it.  

Yes, the vectors are communicated through both saliva and stomach contents.
Whether through the anesthetic is very interesting and a new one on me.  It
sounds quite reasonable though.

The thing is that one cannot wait to take any effective remedial action due
to the varieties of co-infections which are often transmited some of which
include Erhlichia, Babesiosis, and Bartonella, and various mycoplasms.  That
can happen even without Borellia.

Yes, I read Lab 257 quite a few years back.  A true gut wrenching
eye-opener!!! Life was never quite the same as it helped eliminate the last
vestiges of denial I had wondering about.  The other one I read a couple
years back, was Poison Plum by Les Roberts; said to be fiction.  Not as
great or well known as Lab 257.
Sash  

-Original Message-
From: Malcolm [mailto:s...@asis.com] 
Subject: RE: CS>Tick Bite, sms, Ode
http://www.jstor.org/pss/3283916
Hi Sash;
You may find the above article interesting.  I am particularly
interested by the comment that Borellia Burgdorferi is transmitted from
infected ticks to humans within 8 to 12 hours; more in line with my
knowledge of local acquaintances' experiences when infected.
 


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RE: CS>Tick Bite

[EmoTap]

Taking everything into account, Renee, oil pulling is quite a common detox
method used by many in the Lyme community.  So they are familiar with the
method.  

But, I actually don’t know if anyone has used that and that alone, or with
added anti-bacterial/viral/fungals to avoid contracting Lyme from an initial
tick bite.  It certainly would be worth investigating and asking if anyone
has tried to do it that way.  Not a bad idea, actually.  I'd just be
concerned about the spirochetes hiding, encysting, or morphing into L-form
or other forms, etc.

I think, if it were me, I'd get on ABX as quickly as possible, since that is
the tried and true method, and then add in oil pulling per your suggestion.
It might also be worthwhile to ask Marc Fett over at Lymestrategies if he
knows anyone who has tried it.  Maybe Dr. Klinghardt, or any of the
alternative LLMD experimenters knowledgeable or willing to investigate the
idea.  

Who knows, you might be on to something great!
Sash


From: Renee [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 10:58 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Tick Bite

You know, I'm wondering about this--with oil pulling they say to do it for
20 minutes as this is how long it takes for the blood to circulate through
the body.  Since the mouth membranes absorb directly into the blood stream,
oil pulling this way does remarkable things for people.
 
So--couldn't you put some strong natural herbal anti-bacterial/viral/fungal
in some oil and swish that around for 20 minutes after finding a tick bite? 
Say, do this several times a day for the first couple days?  That would
by-pass the digestion and get the anti-everything into the same places the
virus would be delivered by the blood.  And perhaps the virus wouldn't have
enough time to get established before the herbs/MMS/whatever got to it and
killed it?
 
Just pondering.
 
Samala,
Renee
 
 
---Original Message---
 
Your statement below is generally not true.  Even if one gets the tick off
quickly, as you suggest, the contents of the tick's stomach may have been
regurgitated into the bite and the blood and lymph will carry it to all
parts of the body, quickly, and then start reproducing or hiding until it is
safe to start reproducing.  






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Re: CS>Tick Bite

[Marshall Dudley]

s...@emotap.com wrote:

ABX is indicated for any tick bite, starting with Doxycycline, at around 400
to 600mg/day, until the person knows for absolute certain that they have not
been infected or for taking for a minimum of 4-6 weeks, period.  End of
story. 


That is hardly the end of the story. Both my sister and I have had Lyme 
disease, and ABX were next to worthless, they would reduce the symptoms, 
but never would really kill everything off.  Only the use of CS with 
other protocols such as the pulsar and zapper and ozonated water proved 
completely effective.  I have been bitten since, gotten the bulls eye, 
but did not go to the doctor that time, instead simply drunk a couple of 
pints of CS every day for a few days and was fine.  When I went to the 
doctor for the first one all he would do it give me a test that is wrong 
over 50% of the time, and refuse to give you any antibiotics until you 
are on crutches, as I was after about a year.   The last person I would 
see if I though I might have Lyme is a doctor, thank you very much, I 
know much more than they do on how to treat it.  If you don't take your 
health into your own hands, and hand it over to a doctor you are asking 
for trouble and maybe a funeral.


Marshall


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Re: CS>Gallstones

[needling around]

Before the FDA became involved there used to be Chinese Patent Medicines 
that were excellent for dissolving gallstones.  You might want to do some 
research or see a herbalist practicing Traditional Chinese Medicine.

PT

PS:  since they are small you might also want to research a good LV/GB flush 
protocol.



- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 12:13 PM
Subject: CS>Gallstones



Peter,
A few things come to mind.
One thing is Apple Cider Vinegar a wondrous natural remedy for
disintegrating kidney and gall stones naturally.  But be sure that you get
the vinegar with mother (Bragg's brand).  Google (or other) ACV and
gallstones.

Second thing is to visit Dr. Sandra Cabot's Website at the link below.
Search Gall Bladder.  She is renowned for her natural remedies, for
prevention and healing, and she has several books you can see at Amazon or
on her website.

http://www.liverdoctor.com/index.php?page=liver-problems&subpage=gall-bladde
r

Third, I have saved quite a few remedies over the years that describe what
to do about gallstones to avoid surgery.  I can forward those to you if 
you

like.  Maybe something in them will be of help.  Let me know, okay.

Sash

From: Peter Shaw [mailto:hea...@sitacs.com]
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 10:21 PM
To: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com
Subject: SO>Gallstones

Hi Just had a check up and they found 3 small gallstones.
The largest being about 3mm.
Immediately they want to do surgery to remove my gallbladder.
Anybody tried any natural solutions to flush them out?
Thanks

Peter


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Re: CS>CS - Chiggers -local antihistamine - ant bites etc

[needling around]

It is nothing special.  You can buy one... people have told me they purchased 
them as keychain lights.  Or you can make one using a small flashlight with a 
piece of theatrical gel cut to fit the lens.  Put the lens on the skin and turn 
on the light for a minute or so and then check to see if you need a little more 
time.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: MaryAnn Helland 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 1:03 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>CS - Chiggers -local antihistamine - ant bites etc


  Will you elaborate on *blue light* please?  Thanks.
  MA




--
  From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net



  The thing is that all one needs to do for anything that is red and itchy (not 
poisonous) is put some blue light on it and the itch will be gone.  In some 
cases another dose of blue light might be required but that should do it.
  PT

RE: CS>Tick Bite

[Renee]

Well, then the best thing to do--if this would have any working ability
anyway--would be to switch the strong anti-virals every day.  Say, op 3
itmes a day with one super anti-viral, then op the next day with another. 
may be enough to keep the critters from morphing?

I have no idea since I don't have lyme and don't personally know anyone with
lyme.  It was just a thought that popped into my head.  I know people on
another list have been putting a few drops of anti-something, depending on
what they have at home, in the oil to help their gums.  So--if it's all
being absorbed anyway, especially into the blood stream, then I would THINK
op would be a good option.  I'm not saying the ONLY option, but just
something to add in.

And it might certainly not do a lot of good if lyme were already firmly
established.  But I was thinking along the lines of first defense, since
that's what we were talking about.

Samala,
Renee
 
 
---Original Message---
 
Taking everything into account, Renee, oil pulling is quite a common detox
method used by many in the Lyme community.  So they are familiar with the
method.
 

Re: CS>Tick Bite

[Bob Banever]

I totally agree!
- Original Message - 
From: "Marshall Dudley" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Tick Bite



s...@emotap.com wrote:
ABX is indicated for any tick bite, starting with Doxycycline, at around 
400
to 600mg/day, until the person knows for absolute certain that they have 
not

been infected or for taking for a minimum of 4-6 weeks, period.  End of
story.


That is hardly the end of the story. Both my sister and I have had Lyme 
disease, and ABX were next to worthless, they would reduce the symptoms, 
but never would really kill everything off.  Only the use of CS with other 
protocols such as the pulsar and zapper and ozonated water proved 
completely effective.  I have been bitten since, gotten the bulls eye, but 
did not go to the doctor that time, instead simply drunk a couple of pints 
of CS every day for a few days and was fine.  When I went to the doctor 
for the first one all he would do it give me a test that is wrong over 50% 
of the time, and refuse to give you any antibiotics until you are on 
crutches, as I was after about a year.   The last person I would see if I 
though I might have Lyme is a doctor, thank you very much, I know much 
more than they do on how to treat it.  If you don't take your health into 
your own hands, and hand it over to a doctor you are asking for trouble 
and maybe a funeral.


Marshall


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Re: CS>2 items

[Jimmie Cairn]

Hi There;
  Checked back with the practicioner who found the trichonosis, and that is for 
sure what we are dealing with.  No information on what the species is, just 
trichonosis.  Tried one IV CS, and scanned agsin this morning.  Still with  me. 
 Any other ideas?
  Practicioner suggested Jim Humbles MMS, but the stuff just makes me retch.  
Sigh... Just don'tr know where to turn. Will try another IV tonight.  May call 
the  Essential Oil  practicioner in the States.
 Jimmie






From: needling around 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, July 5, 2010 12:43:46 PM
Subject: Re: CS>2 items

 
Do you have trichonosis or trichomonis in your 
eyes?
PT
- Original Message - 
>From: Jimmie 
>  Cairn 
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
>Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 1:40 PM
>Subject: Re: CS>2 items
>
>
>Hi 
>  There;
>  New to the site, but have a 'burning' question.  Any 
>  information on CS for trichonosis?Seems I have it in my eyes.  Which of 
>  course means it is in the central nervous system.  I have realized 
>  something was wrong for a long time, but  have been occupies with health 
>  issues on Hubby, and of course, "The cobblers children have no shoes".  
>  Same old story, right?  I am going to inject some CS full strength IV, 
>  but have other alternatives which I use too.  Such as essential oils and 
>  some other things.  Just wondered if anybody else had had the 
>  problem.  Mine seems to have been the reason for some central nervous 
>  tremors, mimicking Parkinsons disease, and other subtle 
>  effects.
>   
>  Many Thanks Jmmie
>
>

 From: sol 
>  
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Sent: Sun, July 4, 2010 8:26:32 
>  PM
>Subject: Re: CS>2 
>  items
>
>Shirley Reed wrote:.
> 
>>  Now regarding 
>  the use of lavender for burns -- is it used full strength or diluted??  
>  If diluted, what dilution is recommended??  Is it put directly on the 
>  burned area?tia  pj
>>  
>I use it full 
>  strength for burns...it stopped the pain from splashed boiling grease 
>  nearly instantaneously. I applied it a couple more times and the next day 
> had 
>  not even any red marks. (no CS used on this one).
>
>I also applied it to 
>  a burn on my thumb where I tried to pick up the lid of a roaster fresh from 
> a 
>  400 degree oven. Took about 45 min to get rid of that pain, and I did have a 
>  deep "brand" that was tender for a couple days, but it healed quickly, 
> though 
>  the burned skin sloughed off. Don't remember using any CS on this 
>  burn.
>
>Also applied it when a pet bit through a thumbnail and into the 
>  nail bed. It also quickly stopped that pain. Used  CS after the pain 
>  stopped.
>
>Because of the speed of pain relief and healing lavender 
>  essential oil is always what I reach for 
>  FIRST.
>sol
>
>
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Re: CS>2 items ( skin problems--Thanks to Brooks Bradley & Mike

[Jimmie Cairn]

What is EIS?  
Jimmie





From: Gayla Roberts 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, July 5, 2010 7:01:03 PM
Subject: Re: CS>2 items ( skin problems--Thanks to Brooks Bradley & Mike

 
And how much of the mix do they take?
TIA!!
Gayla
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>From: zzekel...@aol.com 
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
>Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 1:24 PM
>Subject: Re: CS>2 items ( skin 
>  problems--Thanks to Brooks Bradley & Mike
>
>
>In a message dated 7/5/2010 11:31:38 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
>ptf2...@bellsouth.net writes:
>Hi,
>>Would the NuStock also be good for humans with skin 
>>problems?  Is itching a 
>> 
>>requirement?
>>Thanks.
>>PT
>>
>Hi PT, as for skin problems---I'm not sure how long 
>  ago it was but I read a post by Brooks Bradley . He gave a recipe for skin 
>  problems. Since then--I have helped 7 people stop skin problem.. Mostly 
>  psoriasis.. 2 others were going crazy with shingles & said they 
>  "would try anything !!! " The ones with psoriasis are not having any more 
>  problems & the 2 with shingles have not had a 
>  reoccurrence  of their problems... The 2 with shingles also take a 
>  tsp. of EIS orally. { not the mix } I'm not sure if it is every day or 
>  not... I've even had them say I should bottle it & sell it... I just mix 
>  it up & give it to them..The mix is---75 % EIS---10 % DMSO---15 % 
>  glycerine.   A Great Big Thanks to Brooks Bradley for this from the 
>  folks here he has helped...& to Mike for having this site !!! 
>   Lois


  

Re: CS>2 items ( skin problems--Thanks to Brooks Bradley & Mike

[needling around]

EIS is an alternate name for colloidal silver.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jimmie Cairn 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 8:23 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>2 items ( skin problems--Thanks to Brooks Bradley & Mike


  What is EIS?  
  Jimmie




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  From: Gayla Roberts 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Mon, July 5, 2010 7:01:03 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>2 items ( skin problems--Thanks to Brooks Bradley & Mike


  And how much of the mix do they take?
  TIA!!
  Gayla
- Original Message - 
From: zzekel...@aol.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: CS>2 items ( skin problems--Thanks to Brooks Bradley & Mike


In a message dated 7/5/2010 11:31:38 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
ptf2...@bellsouth.net writes:
  Hi,
  Would the NuStock also be good for humans with skin problems?  Is itching 
a 
  requirement?
  Thanks.
  PT

Hi PT, as for skin problems---I'm not sure how long ago it was but I read a 
post by Brooks Bradley . He gave a recipe for skin problems. Since then--I have 
helped 7 people stop skin problem.. Mostly psoriasis.. 2 others were going 
crazy with shingles & said they "would try anything !!! " The ones with 
psoriasis are not having any more problems & the 2 with shingles have not had a 
reoccurrence  of their problems... The 2 with shingles also take a tsp. of EIS 
orally. { not the mix } I'm not sure if it is every day or not... I've even had 
them say I should bottle it & sell it... I just mix it up & give it to 
them..The mix is---75 % EIS---10 % DMSO---15 % glycerine.   A Great Big Thanks 
to Brooks Bradley for this from the folks here he has helped...& to Mike for 
having this site !!!  Lois

Re: CS>2 items ( skin problems--Thanks to Brooks Bradley & Mike

[Hanneke]

EIS stands for electrically isolated silver.



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From: Jimmie Cairn


To:
silver-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 8:23 PM

Subject: Re: CS>2 items ( skin problems--Thanks to Brooks
Bradley & Mike

What is EIS?  


   
Jimmie


From: Gayla Roberts


To:
silver-list@eskimo.com

Sent: Mon, July 5, 2010 7:01:03 PM

Subject: Re: CS>2 items ( skin problems--Thanks to Brooks
Bradley & Mike


And how much of the mix do they take?

TIA!!

Gayla




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CS>Ringworm

[gotoholl]

 Have been doing animal rescue for many years and have great success with (off 
label use) Program.  Very safe and effective and inexpensive.  Mix the 
suspension into canned food and give as a meal.  Repeat in two weeks and again 
two weeks later.  Some rescues give oral anti-fungal capsules daily (hard on 
their livers and a pain to pill a cat, esp. every day).  IMO program is the 
best way to go.

Laura H.
  

 


 

 

CS>Humectants and Some of Their Uses

[Norton, Steve]

I hadn't planned on posting about humectants but since the subject has sort of 
come up I guess that I will mention a little that I've learned. I first looked 
into them when Brooks posted the CS/DMSO/glycerin recipe. And I find them quite 
interesting.

As mentioned below, glycerin can aid in transdermal penetration of other 
substances. So I wondered if in some applications if glycerin or other 
humectants can be used in place of DMSO since my wife objects to my body odor 
when I use DMSO (even in small amounts). While I do not believe that humectants 
can match DMSO it appears that they are useful in many cases. Of the humectants 
listed the previous post, three humectants in addition to glycerin appear to 
have very interesting properties. They are urea, propylene glycol and 
polyethylene glycol. All are safe for oral and topical use and all act as 
transdermal penetration enhancers. Propylene glycol even appears to be a better 
transdermal penetration enhancer than glycerin. Urea and propylene glycol are 
readily available and lower cost than glycerin. Urea can cost much less. Some 
comments on each of the three:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyethylene_glycol

** High-molecular-weight PEG, e.g., PEG 8000, has been shown to be a dietary 
preventive agent against colorectal cancer in animal models.[11] 
The Chemoprevention Database shows it is the most effective agent to suppress 
chemical carcinogenesis in rats. Cancer prevention in humans has not yet been 
tested in clinical trials.[12]

** The injection of PEG 2000 into the bloodstream of guinea pigs after spinal 
cord injury leads to rapid recovery through molecular repair of nerve 
membranes.[13] The effectiveness of this treatment to prevent paraplegia in 
humans after an accident is not known yet. 

** PEG is being used in the repair of motor neurons damaged in crush or 
laceration incidence in vivo and in vitro. When coupled with melatonin, 75% of 
damaged sciatic nerves were rendered viable.[14]

** PEG is also used in lubricant eye drops.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propylene_glycol

** As a solvent in many pharmaceuticals, including oral, injectable and topical 
formulations.

** As an emulsification agent in Angostura and orange bitters 

** As a moisturizer in medicines, cosmetics, food, toothpaste, mouth wash, hair 
care and tobacco products 

** As a carrier in fragrance oils 

** As an ingredient in massage oils 

** In hand sanitizers, antibacterial lotions, and saline solutions

** As the main ingredient in deodorant sticks.

** Studies conducted in 1942 by Dr. Oswald Hope Robertson of University of 
Chicago's Billings Hospital showed vaporized propylene glycol inhalation in 
laboratory mice may prevent pneumonia, influenza, and other respiratory 
diseases.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urea
 
** A component of animal feed, providing a relatively cheap source of nitrogen 
to promote growth.

** An ingredient in some skin cream[6], Moisturizer, hair conditioners, . 

** Certain types of instant cold packs (or ice packs) contain water and 
separated urea crystals. Rupturing the internal water bag starts an endothermic 
reaction and allows the pack to be used to reduce swelling. (Make your own 
ready-to-use cold compresses!!)

** An ingredient in many tooth whitening products. 

** An ingredient in dish soap. 

** Along with ammonium phosphate, as a yeast nutrient, for fermentation of 
sugars into ethanol.

** Urea in concentrations up to 10 M is a powerful protein denaturant as it 
disrupts the noncovalent bonds in the proteins. This property can be exploited 
to increase the solubility of some proteins. (Can this be used to denature whey 
protein??)

** Urea is used in topical dermatological products to promote rehydration of 
the skin.

** Urea is the main component of an alternative medicinal treatment referred to 
as urine therapy. 


Urea is perhaps my favorite of the three. It is very low cost (animal feed 
quality). Urea fertilizer can be used in a pinch. Urea is believed to be the 
primary active component in urine therapy. Many protocols used only urea and 
not urine.
http://cancerresourcecenter.com/articles/alt114.html
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ISW/is_268/ai_n15893086/

It is also combined with other substances for various uses.

Wound healing - http://www.ehow.com/about_5065905_papain-urea.html

Acne - http://www.drugs.com/mtm/zoderm.html
http://www.acne.org/zoderm-reviews/273/page1.html

Skin inflammation - http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/medicines/10432.html

It is also used in body washes and shampoos. In addition to moisturizing the 
skin, it removes chlorine from the hair and skin. - 
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4295985.html


And there are many more. It would be worth your time to do some googling on the 
various humectants.

Regards,
Steve N



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From: Norton, Steve 
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 10:22 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: EXTERNAL:Re: C

RE: CS>sinus infection/sinus washing

[Tom Poast]

Hello Sol,

If you have someone to help you, and can follow directions exactly, here is
a way to deal with your sinus issues.

Understand that these are powerful chemicals.  If you use them properly,
they work great, but don't try to abuse them.

You will need a humidifier and 5% sodium chlorite.

Mix up a bottle with 1 liter of water in it and add 5 ml (about 1 teaspoon)
of the 5% sodium chlorite to it.  Put this water into the humidifier and
point it away from you.  You don't want a direct blast, you just want to
have some of this floating in the air.

Next you will have to find a way to breathe through your nose.

Use the humidifier for 4 hours a day.

This is designed for a "normal sized" room.  This is where you will need a
helper.  Have your helper stand outside for 10 minutes and then walk into
the room while the humidifier is running.  There should be no detectable
odor.  If there is an odor detected, add more water to dilute the solution a
little.

This solution has 150 PPM available chlorine dioxide and virtually no free
chlorine dioxide.  As the vapors fill the room, you will  end up breathing
some of those vapors into your sinus area.  As the solution encounters
infection, trace amounts of chlorine dioxide will be released killing off
the infection.

This is not a "whizz bang" production, but is designed to knock the
infection down a little bit at a time.  After 3  - 4 days of this, you
should experience an improvement.

Now comes the hard part.  The sinus area is supposed to have a beneficial
flora in it.  Infections form when the flora gets wiped out or out of
balance.  Chlorine dioxide will probably wipe out the flora along with the
infection, so after a few days of using the humidifier, stop using it and
find a way to introduce some probiotics into your sinus area.
Unfortunately, the re-growth of flora in the sinus area is a slow process,
and hopefully you won't get re-infected while you are trying to grow the new
flora.  

This is a 3 - 4 day process.  Make sure the level in the room is below the
odor threshold, and be sure to add probiotics after the infection has been
knocked down.

This process (minus the addition of probiotics) has been used with chickens,
turkeys, and ducks, and has been very successful in dealing with respiratory
problems.  In those cases the "chicken coop" has a lot more ventilation, and
the concentration used was about 1000 PPM.  The time was reduced to a
fogging morning and night.  I have tried this inside a house and 1000 PPM is
way too high, 500 PPM is about the odor threshold, so 150 PPM should not
present a problem.  Having the humidifier run for 4 hours will make up for
the lower PPM concentration.

This is a technical procedure, so make sure you understand all of the
instructions.  I am not sure what probiotic will work best, but you should
be able to find on by doing some research.  People introduce the probiotic
by using a neti pot, but there are other ways to do this if you are unable
to use one.

Good luck and here's hoping you achieve better health.

Tom

-Original Message-
From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] 
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 12:22 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>sinus infection/sinus washing

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
> Hi sol, sorry to hear you are unwell.  Do you spray the CS up the nose?
Or have you thought of a Medisana (I can't remember if you have one)  Also,
what about CS and H202?  
Dee,
Well, err, it is embarrassinhg to admit I stopped misting with CS  the 
pain I was in was so all-consuming, it simply drove everything else out 
of mind. I simply forgot my misting. I am using CS/DMSO nose drops, for 
that purpose I prefer DMSO as an additicve to H202.  I do have a 
Medisana, that I ran at night with distilled water or CS (it mists 
rigfht over my face when I'm in my bed, but I haven't been able to lay 
down for 6 weeks, and can't find a plae to run it near the chair I spend 
my nights in. I also have a small hand held Omron nebulizer, with an 
extension tube, you made me remember it. I can get my husband to set it 
up for me and nebulize CS-MSM-DMSO a couple times a day.

I hurry to say that misting CS didn't stop protecting me fdrom sinus 
infections, etrc, I stopped mistring...this is the firest sinus 
infection I've had in 8 years or so, and it is not a cold, just tyhe sinus.

Pain meds and DMSO applicationhs help with the upper back pain from the 
discs, but do not help the tingling burning nerve pain in my 
hands..and I've done about all the tryping I can do 
today...so may have to postpone further replies to aother day, 
or keep them to one or two words, very hard for such a wordy person as 
myself.
sol





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RE: CS>Ringworm

[Tom Poast]

Hello Joy,

You can make a very effective spray against ringworm by placing 10 ml of 5%
sodium chlorite in a glass, adding 10 ml of 10% citric acid, swirl to mix
and let the activation continue for 10 minutes.  Put this in a spray bottle
and add enough water to make a total of 500 ml.

Spray it on and let it air dry.

Tom


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From: beitharmony [mailto:beitharm...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 5:25 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Ringworm

Hi,
My cat has ringworm, everything I've tried has not succeeded. Maybe my 
CS is not strong enough. Now she has 2 patches on her neck. I need a 
solution quick because she's going mad with the itching - as soon as it 
has only begun healing - she digs in again. An E collar won't help as 
she goes outside. Been there done that. Is there SUPER DUPER HEAVY DUTY 
CS for sale by anyone here that people can vouch for? Because you just 
might have a customer.

Joy


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Re: CS>Ringworm - Lugol's iodine

[Rowena]

Nobody seems to have mentioned iodine.
Many years ago DH and DS picked up ringworm after being at the swimming 
pool.

I treated them both with topical Lugol's solution of iodine.
It worked.
In my husband's case it worked too well, and lifted the skin, because I 
put a bandaid over the cotton wool I applied the iodine with and left it 
there on his ringworm.  So I would advise not doing that!  Just dab on.


Rowena

On 4/07/2010 8:24 PM, beitharmony wrote:

Hi,
My cat has ringworm, everything I've tried has not succeeded. Maybe my 
CS is not strong enough. Now she has 2 patches on her neck. I need a 
solution quick because she's going mad with the itching - as soon as 
it has only begun healing - she digs in again. An E collar won't help 
as she goes outside. Been there done that. Is there SUPER DUPER HEAVY 
DUTY CS for sale by anyone here that people can vouch for? Because you 
just might have a customer.


Joy







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