RE: CSthe wog ?
Hi Tony, Well that depends on who considers it politically incorrect I suppose, I'm not into political correctness, never have been, that's a modern day invention thought up by those who have little concept of more important and pressing issues of the day to which they should be channelling their energies and scholastic abilities. Your quote: I think that if I used that in that context now I would be in jail pdq. And that's an example of how academia is changing cultures and who we are as a people in general. Google...'wog for flu' and you'll get definitions, Wiki has it listed, but be quick for tomorrow things may have changed overnight BG. In the context the word is used here it has absolutely zero to do with an individuals nationality, it's just a slang word used in reference to the common old cold or flu. If I were to call an immigrant that, then that's a different story of course, then it becomes personal. Old habits die hard mate, and I'll only change when decomposition starts to set in g. N. From: a...@new.co.za To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 07:46:46 +0200 Subject: CSthe wog ? Hi Neville, Could you please define 'the wog' I've just done a search for wog and can't find anything that fits your discussion. It was used around here, ( but is now very politically incorrect,) to mean worthy oriental gentleman, and was applied to anyone with a darker skin. I think that if I used that in that context now I would be in jail pdq. OK, Tony
Re: CSOil of Oregano and colds
Oil of Oregano and coldsI take 22 capules of garlic power, plus an ultimate cayenne, from Swanson(100,000 HU) 3-4 times a day, tapering down as the days go by. I don't know how its going to work in the big picture, I take it in capsule, but you can do the tea if you can stand it. If the cayenne burns your stomach, a piece of bread will help. - Original Message - From: Bob Banever To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 10:13 PM Subject: RE: CSOil of Oregano and colds Kathy, Please let us know how the pepper and garlic powder work out. I'm battling a lung infection right now. How much of each do you take? In capsules, tea, etc? Thanks. Bob -- From: Kathy Tankersley [mailto:babychicks...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 3:56 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOil of Oregano and colds I'm expermenting with cayenne pepper and garlic poweder for the first time, I found that I have to take it like you would an anti-botic, 4-5 times a day for the first day and can cut down slowly I am on my third day, it got rid of most of the lung infection (the green). I'm going to stay on it for another couple days to be sure. I really want to get off anti-botics Kathy - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 3:21 PM Subject: CSOil of Oregano and colds Just to say that I was told that oil of oregano would 'stop a cold in its tracks' but this is not true. I have just started a cold and used this almost immediately and the cold is getting steadily worse. I am also using CS with DMSO but still have the cold. Just a snippet to say that natural remedies are not always successful either. Dee
Re: CSNeed help
The internal description in the Medisana box says the output is a nebulizer. [no mention of that on the outside] You can put your mouth right on it or inhale near it or form a flexible hose to attach to it. They make for an inexpensive very good high volume unit. Ode At 09:10 AM 12/26/2012 -0800, you wrote: Thank you, Renee. A couple more questions. Do you use a Hanna Tester to determine your ppm level? Also -- we have a Medisana personal humidifier (brand-new in the box, never used). It does not have a hose-type attachment for inhaling -- is there any reason why a person can't just place their mouth against the output port and inhale from there? Or is it not necessary to physically place the mouth on it -- but place mouth/nose near the output port and inhale? MA From: Renee gaiac...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, December 26, 2012 9:33:04 AM Subject: RE: CSNeed help My brother and husband just nebulized pure 15-20ppm CS, 3 to 5 times a day, for a couple days and their chest infection (and sinus as they breathed in through their noses) went away totally. They felt fine after the first day, but did it the second day to make sure it was all gone. Of course, they started immediately as soon as they started feeling bad. it may take longer if your husband has waited longer. Samala, Renee So -- we're going to try nebulizing EIS. Having never done this before, I need to know -- do we use EIS full-strength? Also -- how much, how often, etc. -- general guidelines. TIA. MA
RE: CSOT - zapper burns
Not odd, dry towels are less conductive than wet ones...he's made himself a resistor to drop the voltage and current available...but might not be getting anything if the towel is completly dry good insulator Ode At 02:14 PM 12/26/2012 -0600, you wrote: Actually, Bob (from another list) said he was told about wetting the towels and then letting them dry, then using them. he tried it and said it works a lot better (hes sensitive so he can tell) than using wet towels. Odd, huh? Samala, Renee Although I wrapped the copper handholds in a layer of wet paper towel I ended up with a burn on the side on which I felt the estim most.
Re: CSOT - zapper burns
The problem is that the electrochemicals being produced build up in the skin because the skin doesn't have much blood flow rate to dilute them as fast as they are being made. Those are chemical burns. 5 ways to prevent..can all be used at once or any in part. Reduce voltage [potentiometer] Reduce electrolyte conductivity..ie dilute it with more water [does the same thing as the pot, but in a different spot] Increase electrode pad area to spread concentration of electro chemicals over a larger volume of blood flow. Use zapper for a few minutes and take a few off. Switch polarity to neutralize that particular electro-chemical with it's opposite. Ode If one applies a DC current to a bucket of salt water, it will split into Hypochlorous Acid and Sodium Hydroxide.[ an alkaline base...aka LYE ] That substance was being promoted as a super duper house hold cleaner...with a very short shelf life. The Hypochlorous Acid is a grand disinfectant. The Sodium Hydroxide, a great de-greaser [like Formula 409 ] Then, there is MMS [ Miracle Mineral Supplement...which looks like everything BUT that, having nothing to to with supplementing minerals ] made from Sodium Chlorite being used to get rid of parasites and germs in the blood stream..easy enough to over dose on and make you feel really ill. [Careful there] THEN..there is the Godzilla Zapper, a very simple and cheap device that can be made using junk around the house...used for blood electrification. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/ BUT Electricity doesn't flow through a conductive liquid like it would a metal wire, it transports electrons via chemical reactions .Electro-chemistry SO The Zapper cannot be working by the method claimed...but there is much that indicates that it does work. How could that be?!!! OK So what is the human body but a bag of salt water ? [rather than a bucket of salt water] If one electrode is Alkalizing and the other is Acidifying and you get salt when the two chemicals meet up and recombine, what could that potential be used for? 1] You have a MMS analog with it's own antidote being produced in vivo using a simple Zapper. [ A couple of AA batteries, some wire and a couple of sponges soaked with salt water] too much? [burning and itching??] Turn it down or shut it off. [let the build up dissipate] 2] You have an Alkaline situation at the OTHER electrode being made in vivo with ITs antidote lurking just around the bend.. Both made from existing salt, going back to salt. That's chemo therapy with immediate dosage control and location control as well...and no toxins left over after recombination. At 11:58 AM 12/26/2012 -0800, you wrote: Hi, Although I wrapped the copper handholds in a layer of wet paper towel I ended up with a burn on the side on which I felt the estim most. I'm used to working with units that have an amplitude adjustment and this zapper does not. I was running 15 Hz. Would someone tell me what I can do to avoid this happening again. It happened once before so I know from experience that they take awhile to heal. Thanks. PT
RE: CSOil of Oregano and colds
Thanks Kathy. That's a lot of garlic! _ From: Kathy Tankersley [mailto:babychicks...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 3:10 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOil of Oregano and colds I take 22 capules of garlic power, plus an ultimate cayenne, from Swanson(100,000 HU) 3-4 times a day, tapering down as the days go by. I don't know how its going to work in the big picture, I take it in capsule, but you can do the tea if you can stand it. If the cayenne burns your stomach, a piece of bread will help. - Original Message - From: Bob Banever mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 10:13 PM Subject: RE: CSOil of Oregano and colds Kathy, Please let us know how the pepper and garlic powder work out. I'm battling a lung infection right now. How much of each do you take? In capsules, tea, etc? Thanks. Bob _ From: Kathy Tankersley [mailto:babychicks...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 3:56 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOil of Oregano and colds I'm expermenting with cayenne pepper and garlic poweder for the first time, I found that I have to take it like you would an anti-botic, 4-5 times a day for the first day and can cut down slowly I am on my third day, it got rid of most of the lung infection (the green). I'm going to stay on it for another couple days to be sure. I really want to get off anti-botics Kathy - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick mailto:d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 3:21 PM Subject: CSOil of Oregano and colds Just to say that I was told that oil of oregano would 'stop a cold in its tracks' but this is not true. I have just started a cold and used this almost immediately and the cold is getting steadily worse. I am also using CS with DMSO but still have the cold. Just a snippet to say that natural remedies are not always successful either. Dee
Re: CSOT - zapper burns
Thanks Ode. Since it was a handheld and a potentiometer is not an option I'm trying to think of ways to increase the pad area. I will also move them around and swap the cords. They are only on for 7 minutes and I add water each time I go into the 7 minute part of the cycle. PT From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, December 27, 2012 8:54:23 AM Subject: Re: CSOT - zapper burns The problem is that the electrochemicals being produced build up in the skin because the skin doesn't have much blood flow rate to dilute them as fast as they are being made. Those are chemical burns. 5 ways to prevent..can all be used at once or any in part. Reduce voltage [potentiometer] Reduce electrolyte conductivity..ie dilute it with more water [does the same thing as the pot, but in a different spot] Increase electrode pad area to spread concentration of electro chemicals over a larger volume of blood flow. Use zapper for a few minutes and take a few off. Switch polarity to neutralize that particular electro-chemical with it's opposite. Ode If one applies a DC current to a bucket of salt water, it will split into Hypochlorous Acid and Sodium Hydroxide.[ an alkaline base...aka LYE ] That substance was being promoted as a super duper house hold cleaner...with a very short shelf life. The Hypochlorous Acid is a grand disinfectant. The Sodium Hydroxide, a great de-greaser [like Formula 409 ] Then, there is MMS [ Miracle Mineral Supplement...which looks like everything BUT that, having nothing to to with supplementing minerals ] made from Sodium Chlorite being used to get rid of parasites and germs in the blood stream..easy enough to over dose on and make you feel really ill. [Careful there] THEN..there is the Godzilla Zapper, a very simple and cheap device that can be made using junk around the house...used for blood electrification. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/ BUT Electricity doesn't flow through a conductive liquid like it would a metal wire, it transports electrons via chemical reactions .Electro-chemistry SO The Zapper cannot be working by the method claimed...but there is much that indicates that it does work. How could that be?!!! OK So what is the human body but a bag of salt water ? [rather than a bucket of salt water] If one electrode is Alkalizing and the other is Acidifying and you get salt when the two chemicals meet up and recombine, what could that potential be used for? 1] You have a MMS analog with it's own antidote being produced in vivo using a simple Zapper. [ A couple of AA batteries, some wire and a couple of sponges soaked with salt water] too much? [burning and itching??] Turn it down or shut it off. [let the build up dissipate] 2] You have an Alkaline situation at the OTHER electrode being made in vivo with ITs antidote lurking just around the bend.. Both made from existing salt, going back to salt. That's chemo therapy with immediate dosage control and location control as well...and no toxins left over after recombination. At 11:58 AM 12/26/2012 -0800, you wrote: Hi, Although I wrapped the copper handholds in a layer of wet paper towel I ended up with a burn on the side on which I felt the estim most. I'm used to working with units that have an amplitude adjustment and this zapper does not. I was running 15 Hz. Would someone tell me what I can do to avoid this happening again. It happened once before so I know from experience that they take awhile to heal. Thanks. PT
Re: CSthe wog ?
Its obviously just an expression that Neville uses to describe some horrible malady. I don't think anyone should start getting offended. I call such things the dreaded lurgy or some such. Horses for courses. dee From: Tony Moody a...@new.co.za Organization: home and pvt Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 07:46:46 +0200 To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSthe wog ? Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 21:46:58 -0800 Hi Neville, Could you please define 'the wog' I've just done a search for wog and can't find anything that fits your discussion. It was used around here, ( but is now very politically incorrect,) to mean worthy oriental gentleman, and was applied to anyone with a darker skin. I think that if I used that in that context now I would be in jail pdq. OK, Tony On 27 Dec 2012 at 13:57, Neville Munn wrote about : Subject : RE: CSOil of Oregano and colds @ Dee, as I believe you, and most others on here I guess already know, I take a small quantity of EIS every morning and when I feel the wog coming on I up that dose to 250 odd ml for a couple of days, symptoms of impending wog is gone within 24-48 hours, has never failed me. I have only had symptoms of impending wog twice in around 8 years now and have knocked it on the head both times within that time frame, and as I have written here before, I purposely expose myself to anyone and everyone who is loaded with the wog in an attempt to prove to myself that what I'm doing actually works, seemingly it does as I'm no super or extraordinary healthy individual. Just as a personal observationThere are times when I get the sneezes for no apparent reason, this I am beginning to suspect is a wog of some sort which maybe has tried to 'invade?' my person and hence has been dealt with by my regular daily intake. I can't prove that of course, but then nobody can disprove that suspicion either so I'm running with it g. By the same token some could say it's hay fever or asthma or some pollutant in the atmosphere or whatever else which may promote those sneezing episodes but I'm running with a wog trying to take hold and the EIS has dealt with it. As I just said though, I can't prove that is the case, but nobody else can prove it's NOT the case either. N. From: babychicks...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOil of Oregano and colds Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 17:55:51 -0600 Oil of Oregano and colds I'm expermenting with cayenne pepper and garlic poweder for the first time, I found that I have to take it like you would an anti-botic, 4-5 times a day for the first day and can cut down slowly I am on my third day, it got rid of most of the lung infection (the green). I'm going to stay on it for another couple days to be sure. I really want to get off anti-botics Kathy - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 3:21 PM Subject: CSOil of Oregano and colds Just to say that I was told that oil of oregano would stop a cold in its tracks¹ but this is not true. I have just started a cold and used this almost immediately and the cold is getting steadily worse. I am also using CS with DMSO but still have the cold. Just a snippet to say that natural remedies are not always successful either. Dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNeed help
Thanks Ode. We found an inhaler around her from former usage -- and it had a removable plasic mouthpiece that fit perfectly over the output port on the Medisana. Worked great, and problem solved. And you were right in recommending that unit -- I'm glad I took your advice. MA From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, December 27, 2012 7:54:16 AM Subject: Re: CSNeed help The internal description in the Medisana box says the output is a nebulizer. [no mention of that on the outside] You can put your mouth right on it or inhale near it or form a flexible hose to attach to it. They make for an inexpensive very good high volume unit. Ode At 09:10 AM 12/26/2012 -0800, you wrote: Thank you, Renee. A couple more questions. Do you use a Hanna Tester to determine your ppm level? Also -- we have a Medisana personal humidifier (brand-new in the box, never used). It does not have a hose-type attachment for inhaling -- is there any reason why a person can't just place their mouth against the output port and inhale from there? Or is it not necessary to physically place the mouth on it -- but place mouth/nose near the output port and inhale? MA From: Renee gaiac...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, December 26, 2012 9:33:04 AM Subject: RE: CSNeed help My brother and husband just nebulized pure 15-20ppm CS, 3 to 5 times a day, for a couple days and their chest infection (and sinus as they breathed in through their noses) went away totally. They felt fine after the first day, but did it the second day to make sure it was all gone. Of course, they started immediately as soon as they started feeling bad. it may take longer if your husband has waited longer. Samala, Renee So -- we're going to try nebulizing EIS. Having never done this before, I need to know -- do we use EIS full-strength? Also -- how much, how often, etc. -- general guidelines. TIA. MA
RE: CSCure for cancer and hiv by using Vaccine
My beloved dog Max, a bichon frise, got AIHA (hemolytic anemia) right after a rabies vaccine. Although he lived for many years after that, I had to spend over 12 thousand dollars on vet bills for transfusions and medical care to keep him alive over the years. He died at 16 years of age from congestive heart failure but the point being vaccines are DEADLY for any living thing. Bob _ From: Patricia Cloonan [mailto:pacloo...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2012 8:45 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCure for cancer and hiv by using Vaccine EXACTLY Vicki...I couldn't agree more...vaccines are NEVER the answer. Patty On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 5:46 PM, vicki hood mutt...@isp.com wrote: Considering my stepgrandson died a few days after a vaccine(3 monthsof age) and I have MS immediately after a vaccine, my dear friend gets lupus a few days after a vacine, several friends get leukemia immedistely after a vaccine, my girlfriends daughter gets juvenile arthritus right after vaccine, my dogs get parvo from the parvo vaccine, numerous people get fever and epilesy right after a vaccine, people get the flu from the flu vaccine, gardisil causes untold death and sickness, babies are required to have some 67 vaccines before school, mercury ruins the brain as does formaldehyde, aluminum, msg, cross species pus and other disgusting ingredients in vaccines, i would be very careful about this recommendation. You could be sending untold damage and death by a false claim. The pharma industry thrives on illness NOT on wellness. I cannot recieve a 2 hour advertisement for sickness and death as my computer service does not have that kind of capability. I do hope others respond. My studies span years and years because of the study of damage from vaccines. I would suggest a site written by lots of doctors who have health as an interest and have delved into the vaccine question. try checking the ingredients in vaccines by --vaclib.org---there are even forms to opt out of school vaccines. Our constitution does not allow a foreign substance pumped into our bodies as schools and others would have us believe. Forced vaccines on the agenda? I will do whatever it takes for protection against this sellout by our own governent. They can take that hypo and put it where the sun don't shine. Sincerely, Vicki Hood - Original Message - From: james mailto:james7...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 11:29 PM Subject: CSCure for cancer and hiv by using Vaccine Hi everybody, I would like everybody to know about this research doctor who invented a vaccine(s) that can cure diseases like HIV, cancer and others. His name is SAM Chachoua One of the youtube video is here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNoT8lb3aIs (2hours) He really explains the cause of cancer. james
RE: CSAmerican Biotech Labs review (ASAP 10 Silver Solution)
I have used American Biotech Labs Ag404 and it always has a bitter taste to it. Not offensively bitter but it is always there. Seemed to work well for me. Cured me of a good poisoning in a few hours. Good luck. _ From: Simonsen, John [mailto:john.simon...@oregonstate.edu] Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 9:41 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSAmerican Biotech Labs review (ASAP 10 Silver Solution) TDS only measures ionic silver. The ASAP product is mostly metallic silver in colloidal form. So very low conductivity. You would need a different (and more expensive) analytical method to determine the total Ag in the ASAP. John _ From: Scotty [scottie592...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 7:46 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSAmerican Biotech Labs review (ASAP 10 Silver Solution) It was probably 10ppm coming out of the brewing process and after stabilization settled in at the common 3ppm. Still works at 3ppm! Seems kind of like deceptive labeling though, eh? Scotty Have a great day! --- On Sun, 12/23/12, Alex Flex aflex...@gmail.com wrote: From: Alex Flex aflex...@gmail.com Subject: CSAmerican Biotech Labs review (ASAP 10 Silver Solution) To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, December 23, 2012, 9:37 AM Hello List, I recently bought two bottles of Ag4O4 colloidal silver from American Biotech Labs review (ASAP 10PPM Silver Solution) and I wanted to share my experience and get an opinion. I noticed that there was no taste of this, it was like tasting regular water... SO i went and took my TDS meter and it measured 3ppm only!! Could anybody tell me if this is some kind of mistake... ? Or has anybody before seen such measure? Alex -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org http://www.silverlist.org/ Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com http://us.mc1847.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-list-requ...@eskimo.co m ?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com http://us.mc1847.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-off-topic-list@eskimo. com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com http://us.mc1847.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT - zapper burns
I believe this is a correct analysis. It might be worth while figuring out something that can be added to the water that will increase conductivity and not produce such corrosive chemicals. Any salt, acid or alkaline will work. I was thinking of either vinegar (acetic acid) or citric acid. I believe that hydrogen will be released at one electrode and CO2 at the other. The CO2 is probably not a problem, it will make carbonic acid, but the hydrogen will quickly react with most metals making a metal hydride. So the choice of electrode material will be important. I am looking at the pads on a TENS unit. They appear to have a carbon conductive layer, and you use some type of gel with it. Carbon would be a good choice if made like they are in the TENS unit. Marshall On 12/27/2012 8:37 AM, Ode Coyote wrote: The problem is that the electrochemicals being produced build up in the skin because the skin doesn't have much blood flow rate to dilute them as fast as they are being made. Those are chemical burns. 5 ways to prevent..can all be used at once or any in part. Reduce voltage [potentiometer] Reduce electrolyte conductivity..ie dilute it with more water [does the same thing as the pot, but in a different spot] Increase electrode pad area to spread concentration of electro chemicals over a larger volume of blood flow. Use zapper for a few minutes and take a few off. Switch polarity to neutralize that particular electro-chemical with it's opposite. Ode If one applies a DC current to a bucket of salt water, it will split into Hypochlorous Acid and Sodium Hydroxide.[ an alkaline base...aka LYE ] That substance was being promoted as a super duper house hold cleaner...with a very short shelf life. The Hypochlorous Acid is a grand disinfectant. The Sodium Hydroxide, a great de-greaser [like Formula 409 ] Then, there is MMS [ Miracle Mineral Supplement...which looks like everything BUT that, having nothing to to with supplementing minerals ] made from Sodium Chlorite being used to get rid of parasites and germs in the blood stream..easy enough to over dose on and make you feel really ill. [Careful there] THEN..there is the Godzilla Zapper, a very simple and cheap device that can be made using junk around the house...used for blood electrification. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/ BUT Electricity doesn't flow through a conductive liquid like it would a metal wire, it transports electrons via chemical reactions .Electro-chemistry SO The Zapper cannot be working by the method claimed...but there is much that indicates that it does work. How could that be?!!! OK So what is the human body but a bag of salt water ? [rather than a bucket of salt water] If one electrode is Alkalizing and the other is Acidifying and you get salt when the two chemicals meet up and recombine, what could that potential be used for? 1] You have a MMS analog with it's own antidote being produced in vivo using a simple Zapper. [ A couple of AA batteries, some wire and a couple of sponges soaked with salt water] too much? [burning and itching??] Turn it down or shut it off. [let the build up dissipate] 2] You have an Alkaline situation at the OTHER electrode being made in vivo with ITs antidote lurking just around the bend.. Both made from existing salt, going back to salt. That's chemo therapy with immediate dosage control and location control as well...and no toxins left over after recombination. At 11:58 AM 12/26/2012 -0800, you wrote: Hi, Although I wrapped the copper handholds in a layer of wet paper towel I ended up with a burn on the side on which I felt the estim most. I'm used to working with units that have an amplitude adjustment and this zapper does not. I was running 15 Hz. Would someone tell me what I can do to avoid this happening again. It happened once before so I know from experience that they take awhile to heal. Thanks. PT No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1430 / Virus Database: 2637/5490 - Release Date: 12/27/12
Re: CSOT - zapper burns
Hi Ode and Marshall, The medics use a conductive electrode gel with silver/silverchloride . This is used for longterm connection called resting electrodes. I used them a lot for the Bob Beck type units because they helped to prevent the skin burning which I thought due to a better skin connection. The burns always seemed to be at point contacts. Grist ? Tony On 27 Dec 2012 at 11:40, Marshall wrote about : Subject : Re: CSOT - zapper burns I believe this is a correct analysis. It might be worth while figuring out something that can be added to the water that will increase conductivity and not produce such corrosive chemicals. Any salt, acid or alkaline will work. I was thinking of either vinegar (acetic acid) or citric acid. I believe that hydrogen will be released at one electrode and CO2 at the other. The CO2 is probably not a problem, it will make carbonic acid, but the hydrogen will quickly react with most metals making a metal hydride. So the choice of electrode material will be important. I am looking at the pads on a TENS unit. They appear to have a carbon conductive layer, and you use some type of gel with it. Carbon would be a good choice if made like they are in the TENS unit. Marshall On 12/27/2012 8:37 AM, Ode Coyote wrote: The problem is that the electrochemicals being produced build up in the skin because the skin doesn't have much blood flow rate to dilute them as fast as they are being made. Those are chemical burns. 5 ways to prevent..can all be used at once or any in part. Reduce voltage [potentiometer] Reduce electrolyte conductivity..ie dilute it with more water [does the same thing as the pot, but in a different spot] Increase electrode pad area to spread concentration of electro chemicals over a larger volume of blood flow. Use zapper for a few minutes and take a few off. Switch polarity to neutralize that particular electro-chemical with it's opposite. Ode If one applies a DC current to a bucket of salt water, it will split into Hypochlorous Acid and Sodium Hydroxide.[ an alkaline base...aka LYE ] That substance was being promoted as a super duper house hold cleaner...with a very short shelf life. The Hypochlorous Acid is a grand disinfectant. The Sodium Hydroxide, a great de-greaser [like Formula 409 ] Then, there is MMS [ Miracle Mineral Supplement...which looks like everything BUT that, having nothing to to with supplementing minerals ] made from Sodium Chlorite being used to get rid of parasites and germs in the blood stream..easy enough to over dose on and make you feel really ill. [Careful there] THEN..there is the Godzilla Zapper, a very simple and cheap device that can be made using junk around the house...used for blood electrification. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/ BUT Electricity doesn't flow through a conductive liquid like it would a metal wire, it transports electrons via chemical reactions .Electro-chemistry SO The Zapper cannot be working by the method claimed...but there is much that indicates that it does work. How could that be?!!! OK So what is the human body but a bag of salt water ? [rather than a bucket of salt water] If one electrode is Alkalizing and the other is Acidifying and you get salt when the two chemicals meet up and recombine, what could that potential be used for? 1] You have a MMS analog with it's own antidote being produced in vivo using a simple Zapper. [ A couple of AA batteries, some wire and a couple of sponges soaked with salt water] too much? [burning and itching??] Turn it down or shut it off. [let the build up dissipate] 2] You have an Alkaline situation at the OTHER electrode being made in vivo with ITs antidote lurking just around the bend.. Both made from existing salt, going back to salt. That's chemo therapy with immediate dosage control and location control as well...and no toxins left over after recombination. At 11:58 AM 12/26/2012 -0800, you wrote: Hi, Although I wrapped the copper handholds in a layer of wet paper towel I ended up with a burn on the side on which I felt the estim most. I'm used to working with units that have an amplitude adjustment and this zapper does not. I was running 15 Hz. Would someone tell me what I can do to avoid this happening again. It happened once before so I know from experience that they take awhile to heal. Thanks. PT No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1430 / Virus Database: 2637/5490 - Release Date: 12/27/12 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe:
Re: CSOT - zapper burns
It looks like KY Jelly might make a good electrode gel. See http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC490140/pdf/brheartj00336-0111.pdf Resistance measurements compared to commercial electrode gels show it to be acceptable for electrocardiograms. KY - 2150 ohms Lubafax - 9750 ohms Cambridge - 1550 ohms Cambridge contains salt, which forms chlorine and lye when used with a zapper. KY and Lubafax don't. Now low resistivity is more important with a zapper than for use with an EKG or EEG, since they have high megohm input impedances, but a zapper has a low out impedance. Marshall On 12/27/2012 11:40 AM, Marshall wrote: I believe this is a correct analysis. It might be worth while figuring out something that can be added to the water that will increase conductivity and not produce such corrosive chemicals. Any salt, acid or alkaline will work. I was thinking of either vinegar (acetic acid) or citric acid. I believe that hydrogen will be released at one electrode and CO2 at the other. The CO2 is probably not a problem, it will make carbonic acid, but the hydrogen will quickly react with most metals making a metal hydride. So the choice of electrode material will be important. I am looking at the pads on a TENS unit. They appear to have a carbon conductive layer, and you use some type of gel with it. Carbon would be a good choice if made like they are in the TENS unit. Marshall On 12/27/2012 8:37 AM, Ode Coyote wrote: The problem is that the electrochemicals being produced build up in the skin because the skin doesn't have much blood flow rate to dilute them as fast as they are being made. Those are chemical burns. 5 ways to prevent..can all be used at once or any in part. Reduce voltage [potentiometer] Reduce electrolyte conductivity..ie dilute it with more water [does the same thing as the pot, but in a different spot] Increase electrode pad area to spread concentration of electro chemicals over a larger volume of blood flow. Use zapper for a few minutes and take a few off. Switch polarity to neutralize that particular electro-chemical with it's opposite. Ode If one applies a DC current to a bucket of salt water, it will split into Hypochlorous Acid and Sodium Hydroxide.[ an alkaline base...aka LYE ] That substance was being promoted as a super duper house hold cleaner...with a very short shelf life. The Hypochlorous Acid is a grand disinfectant. The Sodium Hydroxide, a great de-greaser [like Formula 409 ] Then, there is MMS [ Miracle Mineral Supplement...which looks like everything BUT that, having nothing to to with supplementing minerals ] made from Sodium Chlorite being used to get rid of parasites and germs in the blood stream..easy enough to over dose on and make you feel really ill. [Careful there] THEN..there is the Godzilla Zapper, a very simple and cheap device that can be made using junk around the house...used for blood electrification. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/microelectricitygermkiller/ BUT Electricity doesn't flow through a conductive liquid like it would a metal wire, it transports electrons via chemical reactions .Electro-chemistry SO The Zapper cannot be working by the method claimed...but there is much that indicates that it does work. How could that be?!!! OK So what is the human body but a bag of salt water ? [rather than a bucket of salt water] If one electrode is Alkalizing and the other is Acidifying and you get salt when the two chemicals meet up and recombine, what could that potential be used for? 1] You have a MMS analog with it's own antidote being produced in vivo using a simple Zapper. [ A couple of AA batteries, some wire and a couple of sponges soaked with salt water] too much? [burning and itching??] Turn it down or shut it off. [let the build up dissipate] 2] You have an Alkaline situation at the OTHER electrode being made in vivo with ITs antidote lurking just around the bend.. Both made from existing salt, going back to salt. That's chemo therapy with immediate dosage control and location control as well...and no toxins left over after recombination. At 11:58 AM 12/26/2012 -0800, you wrote: Hi, Although I wrapped the copper handholds in a layer of wet paper towel I ended up with a burn on the side on which I felt the estim most. I'm used to working with units that have an amplitude adjustment and this zapper does not. I was running 15 Hz. Would someone tell me what I can do to avoid this happening again. It happened once before so I know from experience that they take awhile to heal. Thanks. PT No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1430 / Virus Database: 2637/5490 - Release Date: 12/27/12 No virus found in this message. Checked
CS How To Use Kerosene and Turpentine
In a message dated 12/26/2012 6:59:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, bobli...@att.net writes: Three rounds of lufenuron and a tablespoon of kerosene daily cleared up my entire health. Now a days no more sinus, bronchial, or respiratory problems atall. I remember as a kid my Grandmother told Mom Each of us kids should have a tsp. of Kerosene every Spring. I didn't know what for but we got it with some honey water.. Lois _http://www.health-science-spirit.com/kero.htmKerosene and Turpentine_ (http://www.health-science-spirit.com/kero.htm)
Re: CSthe wog ? I think I know
In a message dated 12/27/2012 9:33:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, d...@deetroy.org writes: Its obviously just an expression that Neville uses to describe some horrible malady. I don't think anyone should start getting offended. I call such things the dreaded lurgy or some such. Horses for courses. dee Hang on --- I think it may be when Neville has reached his boiling point--- chuckle, grin :-) I luv Neville- WOGWater-Oil-Gas (valves, pressure) WOG is a do-not-exceed pressure, Lois
RE: CSthe wog ? I think I know
From: zzekel...@aol.com Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 16:17:37 -0500 Subject: Re: CSthe wog ? I think I know To: silver-list@eskimo.com In a message dated 12/27/2012 9:33:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, d...@deetroy.org writes: Its obviously just an expression that Neville uses to describe some horrible malady. I don't think anyone should start getting offended. I call such things the dreaded lurgy or some such. Horses for courses. dee Hang on --- I think it may be when Neville has reached his boiling point--- chuckle, grin :-) I luv Neville- WOGWater-Oil-Gas (valves, pressure) WOG is a do-not-exceed pressure, Lois ## Water/Oil and Gas pressure - LOL - Very good Lois, I like that BG. Of course there is no offence meant, it's just an old word, besides, I hate to see any old mannerisms unique to a people or culture slowly disappear just because some idiot came up with the idea of this 'political correctness' rubbish, that causes more trouble than it's worth by putting a wedge between people. Good grief, Santa can't even say HO HO HO anymore, what *IS* this world coming to? People can call me white trash, hunky or honky or however it's pronounced, or dumb Aussie any time they want, I've been called much worse than that g, my life will still go on. Dreaded lurgy is a new one on me though, never heard of that one, see, learning all the time, isn't multiculturalism wonderful g. N.
Re: CSNeed help
My ultrasonic nebulizer plugs in also, if you look at the transformer mine says 12VDC so you could plug it into a cig lighter in a car! or have a 12VDC battery pack. From: Renee gaiac...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 12:44 PM Subject: RE: CSNeed help That’s where I got mine. Do get an ultrasonic nebulizer though—it makes a super fine mist. I got the portable, which is small, hand-held. It still needs to be plugged into an electric outlet. One day I want to get one that runs on batteries so that it is TRULY portable, but they are much more expensive than the electric ones. So for right now, my electric one is fine. Samala, Renee EBay Where could one purchase a nebulizer? A
Re: CSNeed help
My wife does the 5ml of 20ppm CS to start with then goes up to the 10ml 20ppm in the meds cup of the nebulizer. She has not had an upper resp infection in over two years since doing this!! From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 10:21 AM Subject: CSNeed help My husband's lung infection is back. He's been doctoring for this for a month and a half, has gone through two rounds of antibiotics. This morning it's back, all the doctor's offices are closed because of a snow storm, a phone request for a prescription was denied without his being seen by the doctor. He's miserable -- coughing, can't breathe, etc. So -- we're going to try nebulizing EIS. Having never done this before, I need to know -- do we use EIS full-strength? Also -- how much, how often, etc. -- general guidelines. TIA. MA
