CS>Re: CS protocols for congestive heart failure (CHF) AND idiopathic interstitial lung disease (IILD)
In re-reading my post after a few hours sleep, I realize I forgot to include the fact that in addition to both Dad and Guy suffering from CHF, they both have leaky heart valvesnot sure if this makes any difference but it's a bit of info that should have been included originally. Guy's IILD does NOT come from exposure to asbestos or coal dust...hence the 'idiopathic' tag to the diagnosis. Denise - Original Message ----- From: Denise Rollheiser To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 11:29 PM Subject: CS protocols for congestive heart failure (CHF) AND idiopathic interstitial lung disease (IILD) My father and my partner both suffer from CHF (Dad was diagnosed 2 weeks ago, Guy a number of years ago). Guy also suffers from IILD. If anyone can provide protocol(s) for using CS to assist with either of these diseases or at least connect me with lists that can provide some guidance, I would be forever grateful. While my Dad will celebrate his 90 b'day in Jan 08, his quality of life has deteriorated majorly since his Dx; Guy will be 60 in Nov 07 and I would like to have more time with him than less (his lung specialist has said that in the patients he has seen/sees with IILD - from diagnosis to lung failure is between 4-5 years...Guy was Dx'd about 18 months ago.) Thanks. Denise neec...@sasktel.net
CS>CS protocols for congestive heart failure (CHF) AND idiopathic interstitial lung disease (IILD)
My father and my partner both suffer from CHF (Dad was diagnosed 2 weeks ago, Guy a number of years ago). Guy also suffers from IILD. If anyone can provide protocol(s) for using CS to assist with either of these diseases or at least connect me with lists that can provide some guidance, I would be forever grateful. While my Dad will celebrate his 90 b'day in Jan 08, his quality of life has deteriorated majorly since his Dx; Guy will be 60 in Nov 07 and I would like to have more time with him than less (his lung specialist has said that in the patients he has seen/sees with IILD - from diagnosis to lung failure is between 4-5 years...Guy was Dx'd about 18 months ago.) Thanks. Denise neec...@sasktel.net
Re: CS>meningitis
I hear ya, Ruth. And I know that while I have learned to listen to my body more over the years, I too, sometimes jump to conclusions if I'm not feeling up to par for a day or two. Usually, I'll give it a couple more days and then, if I'm still not feeling better, will make an appt to see my primary care physician. I don't take CS internally on a regular basis but do use it on my 'outsides' (scrapes, cuts, etc.) I used to put a couple of drops in my milk to keep it fresher longer. I use CS on my dogs as well...they always seem to come in from a field romp with scrapes and cuts...CS has helped each and every time. Denise - Original Message - From: "ruth strackbein" To: Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 7:43 AM Subject: Re: CS>meningitis Hi, Denise,I ,too, experience strange feelings in my mouthand throat after drinking CS. I experience enough aches and pains in my nearly 79 year old body that it would be hard to determine what is causing them besides aging. I, too, would caution you not to put the problems you report down to something as drastic as meningitis. I tend to think like that sometimes, too. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: Denise Rollheiser Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>meningitis Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 07:29:15 -0600 so then, from what I've read, you can probably expect to feel 'sick' due to your body detoxing as a result of the more-consistent intake of CS... Could your "... drinking ... its not like it usually is..." be a result of something off-gasing from your new radiator...? Again, just because something is 'off' doesn't automatically mean that there is something wrong...does it? Denise - Original Message - From: "ccdirectt" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:49 PM Subject: Re: CS>meningitis I don't take CS on a regular basis.Nothing physically challenging.Never get colds in the summer or anything else like that.My throat really doesn't hurt.Just when i drink something its not like it usually is.Ate breakfast this morning.Haven't eaten anything else all day.Been to buisy installing a new radiator in my cherokee.Meningitis sounds like some wicked stuff if you get it! --- Denise Rollheiser wrote: I know this is probably sounding very grumpy/cranky/etc. but why would you automatically presume meningitis...? What about having 'slept awkwardly'; did you do something other than usual yesterday (ie. yardwork where you haven't done yardwork in a while...). Have you considered maybe the onset of a cold or just a sore throat...? Why is it that at the first sign of something 'off', people automatically presume the worse...? Have you been regularly taking CS...because it has been my understanding, that if you start taking a larger amount of CS where you hadn't been before, that you can suffer a rebound detox...and think that you are getting sick... Denise - Original Message - From: "ccdirectt" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 8:53 PM Subject: CS>meningitis >I woke up with a stiff neck this morning.Thats the > only symptom i have.When i swallow water its a little > different.None of the other > symptoms//headaches,fever,muscle aches,weakness,etc. > I've been sipping on CS all day. !!! > > > > > Luggage? GPS? Comic books? > Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search > http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/834 - Release Date: 05/06/2007 > 2:38 PM > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Fr
Re: CS>meningitis
so then, from what I've read, you can probably expect to feel 'sick' due to your body detoxing as a result of the more-consistent intake of CS... Could your "... drinking ... its not like it usually is..." be a result of something off-gasing from your new radiator...? Again, just because something is 'off' doesn't automatically mean that there is something wrong...does it? Denise - Original Message - From: "ccdirectt" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:49 PM Subject: Re: CS>meningitis I don't take CS on a regular basis.Nothing physically challenging.Never get colds in the summer or anything else like that.My throat really doesn't hurt.Just when i drink something its not like it usually is.Ate breakfast this morning.Haven't eaten anything else all day.Been to buisy installing a new radiator in my cherokee.Meningitis sounds like some wicked stuff if you get it! --- Denise Rollheiser wrote: I know this is probably sounding very grumpy/cranky/etc. but why would you automatically presume meningitis...? What about having 'slept awkwardly'; did you do something other than usual yesterday (ie. yardwork where you haven't done yardwork in a while...). Have you considered maybe the onset of a cold or just a sore throat...? Why is it that at the first sign of something 'off', people automatically presume the worse...? Have you been regularly taking CS...because it has been my understanding, that if you start taking a larger amount of CS where you hadn't been before, that you can suffer a rebound detox...and think that you are getting sick... Denise - Original Message - From: "ccdirectt" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 8:53 PM Subject: CS>meningitis >I woke up with a stiff neck this morning.Thats the > only symptom i have.When i swallow water its a little > different.None of the other > symptoms//headaches,fever,muscle aches,weakness,etc. > I've been sipping on CS all day. !!! > > > > > Luggage? GPS? Comic books? > Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search > http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/834 - Release Date: 05/06/2007 > 2:38 PM > > Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.11/837 - Release Date: 06/06/2007 2:03 PM
Re: CS>meningitis
I know this is probably sounding very grumpy/cranky/etc. but why would you automatically presume meningitis...? What about having 'slept awkwardly'; did you do something other than usual yesterday (ie. yardwork where you haven't done yardwork in a while...). Have you considered maybe the onset of a cold or just a sore throat...? Why is it that at the first sign of something 'off', people automatically presume the worse...? Have you been regularly taking CS...because it has been my understanding, that if you start taking a larger amount of CS where you hadn't been before, that you can suffer a rebound detox...and think that you are getting sick... Denise - Original Message - From: "ccdirectt" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 8:53 PM Subject: CS>meningitis I woke up with a stiff neck this morning.Thats the only symptom i have.When i swallow water its a little different.None of the other symptoms//headaches,fever,muscle aches,weakness,etc. I've been sipping on CS all day. !!! Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.9/834 - Release Date: 05/06/2007 2:38 PM
Re: CS>Dog with Mastisits
Sorry - meant to ask - are all nipples involved...? 'cause it's been my experience with whelping a variety of breeds that only one or two nipples develop mastitis due to puppies NOT nursing. Covering the involved nipples with hot compresses and massaging them will encourage the inflammation to pass. I don't see why you couldn't add some CS to the hot compress as well. Denise - Original Message - From: Bonnie To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 2:20 PM Subject: CS>Dog with Mastisits My niece's dog had puppies on Wednesday (10), Now she has come down with a good case of Mastitis and doesn't want to fed the pups. Would CS/DSMO work for her on the swollen areas and not hurt the puppies. We are going to supplement them and hope that ones the pains goes down she will let them nurse again. She is on antibiotics and then a pin reliever from the vet. Thanks Bonnie -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.6/828 - Release Date: 01/06/2007 11:22 AM
Re: CS>Dog with Mastisits
Bonnie - please ensure that the dog continues to nurse - even just a little bit - no matter how painful it might be as if she does not nurse, her milk will dry up and then you will have to supplement 24/7 the puppies. I've heard of people administering CS via eye-dropper to pups to boost their immune systemsnot sure the dosage but even a drop or two every couple of hours shouldn't hurt. Also - I would think applying CS to the umbilical site would also work at preventing any infection at that particular location. HTH Denise - Original Message - From: Bonnie To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 2:20 PM Subject: CS>Dog with Mastisits My niece's dog had puppies on Wednesday (10), Now she has come down with a good case of Mastitis and doesn't want to fed the pups. Would CS/DSMO work for her on the swollen areas and not hurt the puppies. We are going to supplement them and hope that ones the pains goes down she will let them nurse again. She is on antibiotics and then a pin reliever from the vet. Thanks Bonnie -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.6/828 - Release Date: 01/06/2007 11:22 AM
Re: CS>Animals, Children, and Logic
Please check out Sue Ailsby's site (www.dragonflyllama.com). Click on the 'Mind to Mind' logo (dog/human) on the left side (under Sue's picture) and read about how you CAN train your dog with NO negative reinforcement whatsoever! ! ! I have taken a variety of seminars from Sue and always learn something new from her methods. To watch her work with her service dogs (Scuba and Stitch) and to also know that these dogs are trained in obedience, conformation, agility, service dog work, drafting, etc, etc, etc. is always a joy to watch. She has some specific things to say about Cesar Millan but I will not get into that hereit's enough that we are heading way off topic again... Denise - Original Message - From: Day Sutton To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 2:31 PM Subject: Re: CS>Animals, Children, and Logic Dogs can be corrected without being hit. I refer you to: "Cesar's Way" by Cesar Millan, If you truly want to train a dog the right way, this is REQUIRED reading...you don't have to yell at them either... On 5/31/07, CWFugitt wrote: Evening Jodi, >>At 02:12 PM 5/31/2007, you wrote: >Reading those words made me feel nauseous. I can only hope and >pray, that no dog or animal of any kind, has the misfortune of coming to >you for help or a home. You are dead wrong my friend. Most are well treated, loved, and treated kindly. Every dog that I correct in this fashion, I am saving his life. There are service dogs, police dogs, war dogs, and working dogs. For many of these animals, one bad habit makes them worthless. Just like people. I work with "REAL DOGS", none of those worthless critters that sit in your lap and the owner is a servant to the dogs. I will write a full report of "Real Dogs" and make a web page, then post the link. If you can't stand to punish and correct, you should neither own a dog or have a child.Enough Said ! How many lives would be saved by applying my ideas and philosophy to the children of today? Look at the kids that shoot others? They should have been treated the way I treat a dog that has become worthless due to ONE BAD habit. One good baseball bat on the head is often enough to get the job done. Example. One dog had a bad habit. I corrected him once. In his whole life, 10 years plus, he never did it again. I made that dog valuable, very valuable, with one correction at the right place and the right time. I am sorry, but Logic is on MY SIDE ! Some people are too soft hearted to do any serious training of anything. I have a grand daughter that way. He is going to a horse college now. She owns a beautiful and intelligent dog. She may become a horse trainer. I tell her, she has to learn when to correct and discipline. She does love her dog. She cannot scold or correct him. A terrible situation. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- Day Sutton day.sut...@gmail.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.4/825 - Release Date: 30/05/2007 3:03 PM
Re: CS>help with puppies and parasite
AND given that there has been such an assault on their systems (deworming, whatever for coccidia and changes in their diet ) I'd say - STOP ALL excess stuff and put them on a simple raw diet - something more than chicken necks because that is wy too much bone-to-meat ratio (they need something more solid to firm up their stool)... You don't say where you are located, but there are a lot of excellent suppliers of raw foodjust ensure that you get something that has bone included (ie. chicken WITH ground bone, or beef with bone ground in, etc.) and give that to them morning and night. Denise (and the Zoo-Crew - raw-fed keeshond/golden retrievers AND cats...) neec...@sasktel.net - Original Message - From: Barbara To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 2:44 PM Subject: Re: CS>help with puppies and parasite I would put them on 100% raw diet if they were mine. They may not do good on kibble. EVO is very high in fat which may also affect their stools. Barbara I have an issue here with 2 puppies that cannot give me a good poop.. its always soft.. once and a while I have drops of blood in the end of the poop.. I have had them on DE for a week.. and also some CS in there water, and give them probiotics every morning.. they get some Innova Evo in the morning and chicken necks at night/... I did deworm them with Safeguard since I had a puppy that left here and had Giardia when he got to his new parents home.. so now I've given them SAfeguard which I HATE.. and given them something for Coccidia also.. S-125 also that I hate giving them.. but seems like nothing is working on them.. they are still having mushy stools ..ok so today I take in a stool sample and my vet calls me back telling me that she sees something .. an egg of something but doesn't know what it is again both puppies are almost 12 weeks old.. and are still on Safeguard one more time since Sunday.. NOW WHAT CAN I DO I need help here... I don't know what to do with them anymore... they are also eating fine.. if someone can give me pointers .. help or something... I would certainly appreciate this... Nathalie www.mystykalsky.com www.elitehavanese.com www.freewebs.com/mystykalsky/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.3/824 - Release Date: 29/05/2007 1:01 PM
Re: CS>Catfish Fins, How Bad can they be ?
The honey I purchased was NOT heated as I know the apiary that it came from. But thank you for clarifying the 'raw but not RAW' honey, Charles...not a lot of people would know that. Denise - Original Message - From: "Charles Marcus" To: Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 6:44 AM Subject: Re: CS>Catfish Fins, How Bad can they be ? I healed a 15 cm diameter MRSA+ leg ulcer (dx was necrobiosis lipoidica diabeticorum) within 6 weeks using raw honey compresses. Truly raw honey is one of natures miracles... Purchase raw/unpasturized honey from a health food store, Honey can legally be heated to 160 degrees and still called/labeled 'raw'. There are only two commercially available brands (that I know of) that are guaranteed to be not heated at all... Really Raw and YS Organics These are the only two commercially available that you should buy. Locally produced is always best, as long as you know for a fact (and can confirm for yourself) that it is not heated. Heating destroys the enzymes, and it is the enzymes that provide the magic. Honey is Mother Nature's natural antibiotic. It is much more than that, but yes, it has powerful anti-biotic properties. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.7/816 - Release Date: 23/05/2007 3:59 PM
Re: CS>Catfish Fins, How Bad can they be ?
not sure, Dee - I know I DID use a variety of CS combinations prior to my leg becoming MRSA+ with NO results (I tried these combinations over about a 2 month period...) The only thing that worked was the raw honey compresses... Denise - Original Message - From: Dee To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 5:23 AM Subject: Re: CS>Catfish Fins, How Bad can they be ? Would this not work with a CS/DMSO/aloe gel as well? Dee ---Original Message--- From: Denise Rollheiser Date: 24/05/2007 05:48:59 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Catfish Fins, How Bad can they be ? I healed a 15 cm diameter MRSA+ leg ulcer (dx was necrobiosis lipoidica diabeticorum) within 6 weeks using raw honey compresses. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.7/816 - Release Date: 23/05/2007 3:59 PM
Re: CS>Catfish Fins, How Bad can they be ?
I healed a 15 cm diameter MRSA+ leg ulcer (dx was necrobiosis lipoidica diabeticorum) within 6 weeks using raw honey compresses. Purchase raw/unpasturized honey from a health food store, apply liberally to spot, cover with a layer of gauze and then a waterproof dressing of some sort (even a chunk of plastic wrap would work). The waterproof layer is to prevent sticky honey from getting all over your clothes. I would leave the honey compress on for 24 hours and then remove by showering and reapply. Within 6 weeks, the ulcer was healed closed. Honey is Mother Nature's natural antibiotic. For those who are diabetic, applying the honey compress does NOT affect your blood sugars. HTH Denise - Original Message - From: "CWFugitt" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 9:08 PM Subject: CS>Catfish Fins, How Bad can they be ? One of my relatives has been finned by catfish. This has been associated with "Flesh Eating Syndrome" and one friend of mine died within 24 hours after being finned. Anyway you cut it, this is bad news. He was finned on both his hard and leg. The hand has healed somewhat but the leg has a large black spot and he has had surgery already.The infection is very deep and is draining a lot. Any ideas or suggestions at all highly appreciated. He is using CS but I doubt if it is enough. Fortunately, he is in his early 40's, very strong, and reasonably healthy, a weight lifter and a runner. I only learned tonight about the catfish fins. Wayne = -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.7.6/815 - Release Date: 22/05/2007 3:49 PM
Re: CS>Pet Food
the 'trick' here is the word RAWcooked/boiled bones splinter and cause problems; raw, for the most part, causes no problems. I've been feeding raw for 6 years now and would never ever go back to feeding commercially prepared dog food...especially given the number of dog food recalls that have been happening over the last little while. And yes, bones can cause problems, but when I weigh the potential problems feeding raw VS the problems feeding commercially prepared dog food - I'll choose the raw every time...! Even my cats are raw fed Denise Saskatoon, SK Canada neec...@sasktel.net - Original Message - From: "Jodi W Menard" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 8:57 AM Subject: Re: CS>Pet Food Uh oh. I was told raw bones were good. Can one of the experts here on raw feeding tell me for sure if they are okay or not? I've been giving my dog raw chicken legs along with some Pedigree canned and it seems he's been doing fine on them, but.? Jodi Garnet wrote on 5/9/2007, 9:24 AM: > Bones can cause problems for dogs. Even the raw feeding lists will tell > you this. If you have a dog that bolts its food be very careful about > introducing bones. They can kill. > > Janet > > Pat wrote: > > Oh, I agree that organic meat surely would be the best diet for a > dog. It's just that my dog was so messed up when I was feeding > itmaybe she didn't chew the bones enough. Then a vet tech told me > that where she worked, they'd done several surgeries to remove bone > which was causing a blockage. She won't feed bones of any kind to her > dogs. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.6/795 - Release Date: 09/05/2007 3:07 PM
Re: CS>Lupus
I offer blessings for her and her family then, that whatever time she has will be cherished truly madly deeply. D - Original Message - From: "Dave" To: Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 9:50 PM Subject: Re: CS>Lupus She has ( I think)four other related illnesses and her husband says she is winding down rapidly. Dave Denise Rollheiser wrote: Interesting about how long people with lupus have to live. and yes, there are various types of lupus, some more virulent than others...BUT my Mom was diagnosed with lupus about 50 years agoshe's still going strong. I have a girlfriend who was diagnosed, in her early 20s...she has been married for at least 10 years now, had two children and is going strong. So while it can be terminal - it isn't always. I would love to hear testimonies on how CS has treated lupusmy Mom's lupus presents in the form of lumps throughout various areas of her body...she has had the lumps removed from - her upper arm, her thigh, cheek, and lower lip. Janice's lupus manifests itself internally but from last I heard, she tires easily - but then - who wouldn't be running after two kids under 6 ...! Denise - Original Message - From: "Dave" To: Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 8:14 PM Subject: CS>Lupus BrooksMarshalTerry, or anyone else with some input. I have a good friend who's wife has lupus and was diagnosed six years ago and told she had probably eight years to live. There are a number of autoimmune diseases that have presented and I was wondering since it's autoimmune if CMO might have the correct effect as it had on my RA. Or if anyone has another modality to explore. Dave -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/780 - Release Date: 29/04/2007 6:30 AM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/782 - Release Date: 01/05/2007 2:10 AM
Re: CS>Lupus
Interesting about how long people with lupus have to live. and yes, there are various types of lupus, some more virulent than others...BUT my Mom was diagnosed with lupus about 50 years agoshe's still going strong. I have a girlfriend who was diagnosed, in her early 20s...she has been married for at least 10 years now, had two children and is going strong. So while it can be terminal - it isn't always. I would love to hear testimonies on how CS has treated lupusmy Mom's lupus presents in the form of lumps throughout various areas of her body...she has had the lumps removed from - her upper arm, her thigh, cheek, and lower lip. Janice's lupus manifests itself internally but from last I heard, she tires easily - but then - who wouldn't be running after two kids under 6 ...! Denise - Original Message - From: "Dave" To: Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 8:14 PM Subject: CS>Lupus BrooksMarshalTerry, or anyone else with some input. I have a good friend who's wife has lupus and was diagnosed six years ago and told she had probably eight years to live. There are a number of autoimmune diseases that have presented and I was wondering since it's autoimmune if CMO might have the correct effect as it had on my RA. Or if anyone has another modality to explore. Dave -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.2/780 - Release Date: 29/04/2007 6:30 AM
Re: CS>Diatomaceous Earth
have you tried any health food stores Rogerthat's where I found mine here in Canada. Good luck. Denise - Original Message - From: "Roger Barker" To: Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 5:33 PM Subject: CS>Diatomaceous Earth Hi all, I'm trying to source some food grade diatomaceous earth down here in New Zealand and keep coming up with the pool filter heat treated variety. Can anyone tell me if there is a visible difference between the food grade and the heat treated variety as I'm sure there must be some of the right kind available around here somewhere? Cheers, Roger B -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.467 / Virus Database: 269.6.1/777 - Release Date: 26/04/2007 3:23 PM
Re: CS>Moving Lymph Naturally
I got my copy on the day I requested it Pataltho I did follow Sasha's request and sent my request to her, privatelythat might have made the difference. Denise - Original Message - From: Pat Lawrie To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 9:05 PM Subject: Re: CS>Moving Lymph Naturally Has anyone received their copy? I never got anything, tho I have asked. I had a biopsy done of lymph nodes in armpit which had swollen. It came back as a chronic infection, tho I am never sick. Pat Roger Barker wrote: I'd love a copy please Sasha. Cheers, Roger On 24 Apr, 2007, at 5:05 AM, s...@emotap.com wrote: > Hope this isn't too late. The other day, the list had a few posts > related > to moving lymph. I have a 2-page document that details a simple > protocol > that explains how to do self-lymph massage. You can do it in a few > minutes, > and it doesn't cost a thing. I have done it many times with excellent > results. Thought I would pass it along. > > So let me know if you would like a copy of it. E-mail me > privately. No > charge of course. Okay? > Sasha -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- Ahhh...imagining that irresistible "new car" smell? Check out new cars at Yahoo! Autos. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.463 / Virus Database: 269.5.10/774 - Release Date: 23/04/2007 5:26 PM
Re: CS>re: Snoring/Obstructive Sleep Apnea
I thought the same thing, solhow in the world am I supposed to SLEEP given that I'm attached a myriad of ways to lines, with electrodes taped to my head (in various spots), my upper lip, my chin, my eyes, a band around my chest, etc etc. It took me 2 hours to fall asleep and at that, my sleep was very broken. BUT it did give the techs a chance to record what happened to me during what little sleep I did have. THEN, to add insult to injury ! they woke me and put on a CPAP machine and told me to go back to sleep. The only saving grace, for me, was that I had been using a CPAP machine for about 6 months prior to my sleep study (I had been dx'd with chronic obstructive sleep apnea by a neurologist and had to wait to get in for the sleep study, but was lucky enough to get a CPAP machine at diagnosis)... When I put the CPAP on, I fell asleep within MINUTES and slept a solid 4 hours. The end result was that I stopped breathing somewhere between 30 and 40 times an hour for up to 15 seconds at a time!!! No wonder (before using the CPAP machine) I was tired in the mornings! My snoring also kept my household (including animals) awake at night. I no longer suffer from sleep apneafor me, the 'cure' was having weight loss surgery in April 2004. I had to use the CPAP machine until about August 2004 and then found that it was more of a hinderance than a benefit and haven't used it sinceI had dropped about 40#s when I stopped using the CPAP machine. HTH Denise Saskatoon, SK Canada neec...@sasktel.net - Original Message - From: "sol" To: Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 4:33 PM Subject: Re: CS>re: Snoring/Obstructive Sleep Apnea > What I don't understand about a sleep study is how anyone goes to sleep > under those conditions. It has been suggested to me to have the sleep > study done. But I have such trouble getting to sleep in my own > comfortable bed, in my own home, not connected up to electrodes, that it > is impossible to believe in ever falling asleep in the study conditions. > I'd imagine if they give a patient a strong sleeping pill, that would > interfere with results, right? When I do fall asleep at home, I can't > stay asleep either. And as my statement implies, I sometimes do not > sleep at all. > > It would be best for me to contact someone where they actually do sleep > studies, and ask my questions there, but it seems so impossible that it > could get any results from me, that even that much seems like an awful > waste of time. > sol > > Heather King (LCA) wrote: > >> The only way to tell if you have >>this is to get a sleep study done. They put electrodes in various >>places, measuring how many wake-ups you have during the night and how >>much oxygen you are getting into your bloodstream. It is actually >>considered a life-threatening condition and can result in heart failure, >>not to mention the myriad possibilities for vehicular and on-the-job >>accidents resulting from lack of restful sleep. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>bird bath and cs
I have a very close friend who suffers from some major problems...cancer (she had a bi-lateral mastectomy in Oct 04), fibromyalgia and MS. How to I broach the subject with her that I think (hell I KNOW!) that CS would be of benefit to her...? She lives a fair distance from me (I am in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan and she lives in Abbotsford, British Columbia) so I am unable to provide any physical support to her. She is going through another rough time at present...bloodwork shows elevated creatinine and BUN levels and the fear is that it is either kidney failure or leukemia due to radiation (for the cancer). I have been struggling with how to present CS as a 'course of treatment'...after all, we all know that it won't hurt her and maybe, just maybe will be of help. But, like I said - how do I go about introducing her to CS...? Thanks. Denise, Saskatoon neec...@sasktel.net - Original Message - From: "Ode Coyote" > A friends cat, diagnosed with Feline Leukemia and given the death > sentence has been drinking CS straight up... for about 8 years now. > If she doesn't get it for a few weeks, she has relapses, [last I heard a > few years ago] so maybe not a cure, but well controlled. > Happy active kittie...prefers CS over plain water. > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>[List Owner] I'm BAAACK!
From those of us who have yet to finish HP6 - THANKS! (even tho I had kinda sorta figured the losses out) Welcome Back, Mike. Beautiful pic and Happy Anniversary! Denise, Saskatoon - Original Message - From: "Marshalee" > Glad you had a good time, Mike! > How didya like the Pern books and HP6? > I`m a big fan of Annie Mac, too, especially since she was nice enough to > reply to an > email I sent her, a few years ago. That was cool. > Then, I was sad to see Hogwarts and Harry lose Dumbledore. sob... > I get so engrossed in the Harry Potter books, they seem so real! > I reread all the first five books, before number 6 came out, did it in a > week. HP6 only took me 2 days, now I hafta wait 2 more years for HP7 to > come out!! Tain`t fair! :o) > Marshalee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Testimonial
I had an infected ulcer on my leg (MRSA positive, on course of Cipro antibiotics AND steroid creme). Had tried CS with NO SUCCESS. Used raw unpasteurized honey as a daily compress - within 6 weeks ulcer COMPLETELY healed. SO - not to say that the CS did not/willnot work for me in other instances, but in this case - HONEY - Mother Nature's own antibiotic (so to speak) was what worked. There are all sorts of sides to be listened to and especially if someone has no access to CS/a generator... Denise, Saskatoon neec...@sasktel.net - Original Message - From: "elle roberts" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:10 PM Subject: CS>Testimonial > Two weeks ago an old friend came to visit. > He is a blacksmith. > He told me how he had been kicked in the shin by a horse almost 3 years ago. > The wound would not heal and turned into an ulcer. > All this time the doctors have been treating it without any sign of it > clearing up. > In one more month he was to go and have plastic surgery on his shin as a > last resort. > > He has also tried other herbal remedies and such but it would not heal. > > I gave him a large bottle of colloidal silver and some silver gel. > > He visited us this week to bring us a gift. > > He was on his way home from a doctor's visit, the doctor is in awe ... the > ulcer is > getting smaller and smaller and healing up. > > Isn't it wonderful? > > > elle. > > _ > Find the coolest online games @ http://xtramsn.co.nz/gaming > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS>granddaughters behaviour ...
Also - preservatives in processed foods such as salami, sandwich meats, etc., might be a cause of her behavior. I know a family with a child who is autistic, have had wonderful success in 'reversing' (can't think of the appropriate word right now) his autism symptomology just by NOT feeding foods with preservatives (and sugar) in them. Even to the point where they DO NOT use leftovers due to mold growth... Stuart still has some problems; BUT they are significantly better than when he was eating all that crap-laden food. HTH Denise Saskatoon, SK Canada neec...@sasktel.net - Original Message - From: "Faith Saint Francis" >I have been following this thread without getting involved. > Yet .. have you considered that the girl might be sensitive to sugars? > We have had such a case many years ago. > After we found out, and cut down on sugars, a drastic change was the result, > he is a fine young man now. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Oh my feet
Have you had your thyroid checked? I had severe eczema on my hands and my heels were dry and cracked terribly. Had my thyroid "fixed" (as in had the radio-active isotope drink to kill my thyroidthis was before I knew anything about vaccine-related issues and homeopathy) and the eczema and dry/cracking heels went away. Denise Saskatoon, SK Canada neec...@sasktel.net - Original Message - From: "lkfields" >I have tried castor oil, I have tried emu oil, I have tried olive oil. > Honestly, and I am not trying to sound contrarybut honestly, I don't > think this is externally related. I have tried vaseline, I have tried > mineral oil The best thing I tried was Mary Kay's Extra Emollient Night > Cream. It got rid of it as long as I used it. > > I want to get rid of the problem and not treat the symptom. I don't want to > wear a pair of oily socks to bed each night. My husband is a Chiropractor > and we live a very healthy natural life. We eat good wholesome foods, I > make our bread from freshly ground wheat, I cook from scratch. I make our > own soap and we use products that don't contain harmful chemicals. I am as > healthy as a horse except for these blasted feet. > > Sigh. I am going to try the Vitamin A, then the electrode therapy and the > spray that was recommended. I really want it GONE. > > It really is extreme. My grandmother had it and my father has it too. I > had a set of sheets that went only one direction on the bed due to the > pattern. A hole was worn through the bottom sheet where I lay in the bed. > I was stunned. > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>EFT is amazing.....
Thank you for this information, Steve. I have just started therapy for some issues that I need to deal with and my therapist uses EFT. I have found it to be a wonderful godsend for me. After my initial session, I was so much more relaxed and at ease with life that - well - it was amazing. It is amazing (and somewhat surprising to a newbie) how much of life's troubles could be so easily dealt with by things such as CS and EFT. For me, not only do I use CS personally but I also treat dog injuries with it. My golden retriever lad (20 m/o male) got into a scrap yesterday afternoon with a playmate of his (a 2 y/o male american staffordshire terrier). It was 'boy horny-mones' that caused the scrap. Deaego (my golden) ended up with a puncture wound on his nosebled like crazy but after a dose of arnica for him, a dose of rescue remedy to calm MY nerves, and some liberal application of CS a couple of times last night and again this morning...I am happy to report that there is a tiny scab at the puncture site, his nose is cool and moist and he shows no ill-effects of his 'adventure' of yesterday. We are just starting dog show circuits for this yearI am putting a bottle of CS in my tack box to take with me... Denise neec...@sasktel.net - Original Message - From: > As an avid CS user and group member for the past few years I stumbled onto EFT after having a severe panic attack ( caused by the loss of my second job) which was so bad I wound up in the hospital thinking I was having a heart attack. Thank God my heart is fine after all the tests. The panic/anxiety attack was so bad I wanted to die. After I got home from the hospital I stumbled onto EFT while surfing through the curezone.com forums and downloaded the free EFT manual from the Emofree.com site. I read through the manual and within a couple of hours was using the meridian tapping method for panic/anxiety. I felt a great deal of relief and the attacks subsided and I'm sleeping better too. > I have since through EFT, helped several friends reduce pain and suffering from carpal tunnel, fibromyalgia, arthritis, sinus congestion, dizziness, asthma, neck and shoulder pain, liver/gallbladder pain, chest pain, performance anxiety, depression, and headaches. > I am simply overwhelmed at the number of ailments both physical and mental that respond to this simple therapy that is both free and painless. I strongly recommend that all list members download this manual from emofree.com and try using the technique for whatever you are suffering from. I don't quite understand how it works but I know that it WORKS! It will one of the best investments of an hour or two of your time you will ever make. > > Health Blessings > Steve Levine > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS>Help for Wilma?
Can't help with the other stuff but weight loss surgery AND diarrhea I do have experience with First off - for the diarrhea - I use a slurry of slippery elm powdermixing about a tsp of s.e. with a little bit of water, juice or in some yogurt and take that, repeating every 4 hours as neededI 'cured' a raging case of 'shotgun poops' in myself within 12 hours. I too had weight loss surgery (bioliopancreatic diversion with duodenal switch) in April 2004 and have found that the s.e. works on the diarrhea as well as something called BROMELAIN...the pineapple enzyme. Works as an anti-inflammatory AND an anti-diarrheal (and for me to a degree - the 'smell')... Personally - I would avoid all soy products or as much as possible. While I do use protein powders occasionally (and a protein bar for those mornings that I am running late), I do not make it a habit of consuming them. I would also suggest that she get in contact with her weight loss surgeonshe might very well have sprung a leak or an abscess and that definately needs to be checked into. Hope this helps. Denise Saskatoon, SK Canada neec...@sasktel.net - Original Message - From: "M. G. Devour" > Hi folks, > > Wilma sent this to me with a subscription management request, but asked > that I forward the following to the list for your input. Let's see what > advice we can come up with for her, please? > > Be well, > > Mike D. > > --- Forwarded message follows --- > From: "Ms. Wilma L. Amos" > To: "M. G. Devour" > Subject:digest > Date sent: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 04:44:47 -0500 > > hi mike, > > ...i've been in bed for over a month with fibromyalgia, chronic > fatigue and epstein barr...could you please send this in as a post? > > can anyone tell me what to do > about 'epstein barr', i know it goes hand in hand with chronic fatigue > and fybromyalgia...or is there any cure? natural healing that would > help i've also had diahreah for 3 weeks...i've tripled up on my CS > and CG, am taking olive leaf, malic acid and shark cartilage...also > coral calcium and acidophilus with pectin...i use acidophilus milk and > soy milk/soy chips and powdered protein...the dr. hasn't found a cure > for the latter, just a prescription of lomotil, and one for memory, > concentration, the name of it is 'zyprexa' which hasn't helped but it's > only been in my system for 3 days...i tried the 'BRAT' diet, but it > hasn't helped eitherall i drink is 'high protein' boost, and burnt > toast (either 7 grain or 12 grain bread, for the fiber) hot and cold > tea > all day... i had a gastric by-pass dec. 29, 2003...i know about the > 'dumping syndrome' but this has been ridiculous! i'm weak, listless, > losing more weight than i should, but can't keep anything in me...ended > up having to wear depends because i don't know when a bm is > coming...and > i'm only 50... my ANA showed my Sed rate was 40 with normals being > 0-20...and positive for epstein barr. they took a stool sample culture > to rule out cmv on friday...i'm awaiting a call for the culture to rule > out cmv...any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! thanks, mswla -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Off Topic List...
Thanks, Mike. I was having the same 'problem'I wanted to subscribe to the OT list not just read the archives. I followed your instructions and hopefully, within the next day or two (depending on the cyber-gawds), I should start receiving the OT emails. Denise Saskatoon, SK Canada neec...@sasktel.net - Original Message - From: "M. G. Devour" To: Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 6:11 AM Subject: Re: CS>Off Topic List... >> ... The web address you're trying to visit >> is this one, correct? ... >> >>http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > >> Hi Mike. No, I didn't use that address. I used this address: >> silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >> >> The reason that I didn't use the one that you noted is because it >> clearly says *OT Archive* before that address. And I didn't want >> archives, I wanted the active list. > > Very good, ma'am! I'm glad we straightened that out. I hope your > uncertainty will help others figure out how it works. > > silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com is the OT list posting address. You > send an e-mail there and it goes out to all the subscribers to the OT > list, plus to the OT archives at e-scribe. > > http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html is the web > address of the archives. If you don't get the OT list as e-mail, > they're the only way to see what's being posted. > > If you want to get the OT list as e-mail, then go to > http://www.silverlist.org and click on the Off Topic List link. Follow > the instructions there to sign up. > > Anybody's who's a member of the main list can post to the OT list > without subscribing or doing anything special. > > The OT list is provided as a place to discuss all the interesting stuff > we tend to get into that really would be too off-charter or too > detailed for the main list. > > Thanks for persisting, Marmar. As always, folks, I'm here if you have > any questions. My address is in the footer at the bottom of every > message. > > Be well, > > Mike Devour > silver-list owner > > [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] > [mdev...@eskimo.com] > [Speaking only for myself... ] > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS>
Thanks, Kent. I've decided NOT to start the gabapentinmy neurologist could not guarantee that it would help and, well, I've been living with the 'cold at the core feet' for 8 months now - I'm gonna continue trying to deal with it by 'mind over matter'! The sensations in my feet are primarily that of ICE COLDso cold in fact, that at times it feels that if I bump them, they will shatter - much like the Robert Patrick character in Terminator 2 when he gets covered in nitrogen gas! I've been working sooo long to get off of all prescribed medications (other than the supplements I now have to take as a result of my weight loss surgery) AND combined with the fact that I am not amuzed with the side effects that I read (about the gabapentin)I guess I've decided to take charge of my own medical treatment! That and I am in the process of finding a classic-trained homeopathic practitioner Heck, with CS, the support of everyone here and some 'tweaking' that I'll do on my own - to paraphrase a movie (who's title I forget)"Doctors! I don need no stinkin' doctors!" Temps have been totally strange latelylast Monday it was -30C and 24 hours later (Tues morning) it was -2C and freezing rain. This morning it is -6C with a forecast high of +2 and more freezing rain slated for this week! Mother Earth definately has her undies in a knot! Denise - Original Message - From: kent Hi Denise, I have been on gabapentin, since I suffered a spinal cord injury six years ago. If your feet feel like they are "burning" similar to the body warming up from frostbite, then the gabapentin may help. It is primarily used for neuropathic pain. I know for myself CS has no effect on my particular "neuropathic" situation. I'm not sure how bad (liver and kidney) gabapentin is, perhaps Dr. Kenney or Mr. Harris can be of some assistance here. On a different note, Good luck with the cold weather I called my sister in Regina and she said it was -25 (I'm originally from there). Kent
Re: CS> Diabetes, neuropathy, thyroid problems, etc.
WOW! First off - I guess I should apologize for not putting O/T in the subject linebut I can't figure out why the subject line that I had typed in my original post did not show up!The wonders of cyber-space! Secondly - and more importantly - WOW! WOW! WOW! I am totally grateful and appreciative of the responses I have gotten so far. I knew that I would not have to resort to 'drastic measures' (ie. removing body parts) but - what an education I am receiving. I am printing off the posts as I see them and will peruse them at great lengthalready I have realize that "I am just an egg" and there is sooo much more to learn. (Well - I already knew that - I just didn't know what words to put into questions to be put on the road of knowledge!) Again, thank you soo much for sharing a most important thing ... the GIFT OF YOU! Blessed Be. Denise Saskatoon, SK Canada neec...@sasktel.net - Original Message - From: "Nenah Sylver" > > People who are used to being patients in the allopathic medical model are > understandably nervous about switching to holistically trained professionals. > They have been taught to view allopathic medicine as the only correct medicine, > the only right view. Western trained doctors can be great for emergencies and > for surgery, but these services constitute only a small portion of what healing > is all about. I encourage you to see other professionals and learn what your > options can be. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>
Not sure if I've ever introduced myselfI'm Denise, from Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada and I have been lurking for some months here, trying to learn all I can about CS - and WOW! I have learned lots! I'm needing to pick your collective brains, please..I apologize for this being a tad lengthy but I am hoping that someone might possibly be able to provide a light at the end of the tunnel for me! A bit of 'background' infoI have a number of auto-immune disorders - type II diabetes (since resolved following biliopancreatic diversion/duodenal switch in April 04), chronic obstructive sleep apnea (resolved as a result of BPD/DS surgery and a subsequent loss of 65#s to date), Graves Disease (dx Jan 1998) and I have been on eltroxin since Aug 1998. I suffered from cold feet (internal core cold NOT cold to touch) in 1998 after the radioactive isotope drink to deal with my overactive thyroid; this symptom went away when my thyroid counts were better under control. I have again been living with 'core cold feet' since my BPD/DS surgery...I have seen a surgeon (my primary caregiver wanted to rule out circulatory problems), I have seen an endocrinologist who advises me that he refuses to adjust my thyroid medication until I have lost all the weight that I can post-surgery. I have seen a hypnotist in an attempt to learn how to control my internal body thermometer myselfI refuse to return to this psychiatrist/hypnotist as he was most insistent that I attend 'group therapy sessions' (3 days/week for 2 hours each time - which would actually be 3 hours each time when you factor in travel time to and from work). Okay - enough 'background'... I saw my neurologist today (21 Jan 05) about the 'cold feet' that I have been experiencing since April 04. After a thorough neurological exam (?), Dr. V gave me a diagnosis of diabetic neuropathy.! Duh - I was a diabetic for 10 years, the last 4 quite severe so this was not a surprise diagnosis to me! He dictated his report while I was sitting in the exam room and I am going to be contacting my family physician next week to get a copy of this report as there were some 'interesting' words that I heard him use I asked him if this 'neuropathy' that I had is also known as 'peripheral' neuropathyDr. V said that it was a form of peripheral neuropathyagain - not a surprise to me. There are a couple of drugs that we discussed as maybe being of assistanceTopomax (topamax) and Gabapentin...I have a prescription for gabapentin... I came home and did a google search for gabapentin and topomaxand I'm not sure I'm willing to start taking either drug. Not sure what to do/which direction to go from hereI have kinda hit the end of the road as far as looking for answersI always figured that the neurologist would be sort of the last step in this journey and well - now that I am here - I'm not sure I like it! I have read with great interest about CS working on a myriad of medical problems...I am wondering if it (CS) might be able to help me deal with the problems I am experiencing I apologize again for the length of my 'story' - but I am almost ready to have my feet amputated to get rid of the 'cold'and I know that something as drastic as amputation wouldn't be the answer either'cause then there'd be the'phantom pain!' to deal with. Thank you. Denise Saskatoon, Sk Canada neec...@sasktel.net
Re: CS>What's in a name?
And at a local hospital when I worked there, (sounds like one of those urban legend type scenarios, but I kid you not)we had a physician - with the last name of "Nurse". His wife was an R.N. (I'll leave you the joy of putting the words all together...). Denise Saskatoon, SK Canada neec...@sasktel.net (- Original Message - From: Lea Ann > This is really funny! > > I will be having an operation performed by "Dr. Zipper" (no kidding!) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> left eyelid occasionally flutters
I find that happens to me if I get extremely overtired - and not just from missing a couple of hours of sleepusually happens when I've been "burning the candle at both ends"! But I'm not sure if it is isolated to one eyelid or the other. HTH Denise Saskatoon, SK Canada neec...@sasktel.net - Original Message - From: Adie > Sorry if this is off topic, but does anyone know what is the cause > of one eyelid occasionally fluttering? The other one never > flutters. Can CS help that? > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Ear Accupressure Points
Is there a specific accupressure book that you might recommend? Thanks. Denise Saskatoon, SK Canada neec...@sasktel.net - Original Message - From: Adrienne Elliott > it's for inner emotional balance. It would be the frontmost corner of > the triangle. And the lower parts of the head flap (next to where > Elvis had his sideburns) are good for appetite control and it is > called > tranquility point and INCREASES THE ENDORPHINS in the brain. This is > all true. Find those points. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Canididate for the people
Is there not a list where you guys can specifically 'mark your own territory' or 'have a pissing party amongst yourselves' to discuss any and all political antics? I am Canadian and have my own views on politics both here in Canada and the USA BUT this is a discussion list for Colloidal Silver, is it not? Could we not keep it at that? Denise Saskatoon, SK Canada neec...@sasktel.net - Original Message - From: Garnet Date: Monday, November 1, 2004 9:27 am Subject: Re: CS>Canididate for the people > This guy will never get enough vote and doing this will only > dilute the > vote. Vote for Kerry and defeat Bush, sure he's a Boner, but he's our > best bet to get out from under the Bush Regime. > > Garnet > > On Mon, 2004-11-01 at 09:23, Marshall Dudley wrote: > > There is only one candidate on the ballet who is not in the arms > of the > > industrial military drug complex, and is for our health > freedoms, unlike > > the Skull and Crossbones nominees. Be sure to vote for him. > > > > Michael Badnarik the liberaterian candidate. > > > > http://www.lp.org/ > > > > for more information. > > > > Marshall > > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Is it really this quiet? GARNET
Could the subject of this thread be possible CHANGED!?!? I am attempting to learn about CS and find it very VERY disheartening when subject lines can not be changed to reflect the actual subject of a post! Denise Saskatoon, SK Canada neec...@sasktel.net - Original Message - From: "Garnet" To: "Silver List" Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 10:14 AM Subject: Re: CS>Is it really this quiet? GARNET > The recommend oral dose is 4cc per day of 99% - although people have > consumed much higher amounts, this is what Dr Jacob recommends probably > because it is well below what would even cause most people the transient > side effects like headache and slight queasy stomach. The toxic dose is > 44,000 times the therapeutic dose in animals tested so no worries on any > toxicity. > > While I have consumed more concentrated mixtures Dr Jacob recommends > diluting DMSO to 4% or 10% for oral consumption. I was consuming 20% or > 30% DMSO with CS, concentrated but this meant I did not have to drink as > much. It did give me a slight queasy feeling in my stomach (due to it > not being empty perhaps) and a mild very short lived headache likely due > to the vasodilation effect DMSO has. > > I make 10 ppm CS but you can use what ever concentration CS you have on > hand. It would make it more effective presumable to use a higher > concentration CS but I get floaters when I go higher. I have not tried > running the CS twice to see if I can get it higher because 10 ppm seems > to be effective. > > == > > For measuring: > > 15 cc = 1 Tablespoon > 5 cc = 1 Teaspoon > > 1 cc = 1 ml > > 1 oz = 30 ml = 30 cc > > Or use a syringe to measure exact cc's. Using a teaspoon or tablespoon > will get you in the range you want to be in. It does not have to exact. > > == > > To make one days worth of 10% DMSO CS: > Using 4 cc per day of DMSO -- mix that 4 cc of 99% DMSO with 36 cc of CS > to make 10% DMSO CS. This will yeild 40cc that can be consumed over the > next 24 hours. That's not quite three tablespoons total. > > To make one days worth of 4% DMSO CS: > Again using the 4 cc per day of DMSO -- mix 4 cc of DMSO with 96 cc of > CS. This will yeild 100 cc of mixture to be consumed over the next 24 > hours. That's a little more than 6 Tablespoons total to get the 4cc of > DMSO daily. > > If you want to mix up more than one day's dose at a time, simple > multiply both quantities. > > So to mix up say ten daily doses just multiply all the quantities times > 10. For the 10% that would be 40cc of 99% DMSO and 360 cc of CS. This is > ten days. > > I hope I did not confuse things by figuring in the daily recommended > amounts. > > > > > Garnet > > > On Fri, 2004-10-15 at 21:51, Bruce Anderson wrote: > > Garnet, > > Could you please give the DMSO, CS ratio? I think I'd like to add that > > mixture to the war chest. > > Many thanks, > > Bruce > > > > Garnet wrote: > > > > >Combining oral CS and oral DMSO may make the difference here. DMSO will > > >penetrate and carry CS to tissues that it might not normally penetrate > > >unless very high doses are used. DMSO increases the efficacy without > > >increasing dose. At least this is my experience using CS alone and then > > >with DMSO to over come a bad case of the Fujian Flu last fall. I would > > >not hesitate to use this combination orally any time I had doubts or > > >thought I was dealing with a particulary virulent organism. > > > > > >Garnet > > > > > > > > >-- > > >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > > > > >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > > > > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > >Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > > > >Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > >OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > > > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: CS>Cs dangers/naked mice
cuold you be thinking of the Chinese Crested Dog? Denise Saskatoon, SK Canada neec...@sasktel.net - Original Message - From: Nenah Sylver > > As I recall, there is actually a breed of hairless mice. > > There is one breed of hairless dog that I have seen. It's kind of > funny-looking; > I don't remember what it's called. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
