Re: CS>Re: woops!
On Sun, Sep 06, 2009 at 12:07:01AM -0400, Indi wrote: > On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 11:51:07PM -0400, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: > > I'll go one better... > > I'll FRAME it! > > > > Chuck > > Can vegetarians eat animal crackers? > > > > Once I bought some animal crackers, and on the box it said "Do not open if > seal is broken". So I opened it up and looked for the seal cracker, and sure > enough... > > Darn! "Do not EAT if seal is broken". I'm just no good at telling jokes... -- /\ /\ <\ />Indi ^ 'v-v' -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: woops!
On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 11:51:07PM -0400, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: > I'll go one better... > I'll FRAME it! > > Chuck > Can vegetarians eat animal crackers? > Once I bought some animal crackers, and on the box it said "Do not open if seal is broken". So I opened it up and looked for the seal cracker, and sure enough... -- /\ /\ <\ />Indi ^ 'v-v' -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: woops!
Sorry everyone, an email that was meant for the OT list slipped by me and got sent here. Please disregard it, and accept my apologies. -- /\ /\ <\ /> Indi ^ 'v-v' -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: SO>Re: name calling
What? Did you miss the part where she said HR3200 requires the government to have direct access to your bank account? How about the part where she talked about how it would limit your choices for buying private health care? There is no room for interpretation here. I'm sorry, but that's alled LYING, and people who do that are LIARS. Linda has wronged everyone on this list with her lies. That's not an interpretation, that's a fact. I don't have to be gracious to a proven liar, anymore than I have to be gracious to muggers, junkies, or murderers. ESPECIALLY when they are so completely sociopathic they don't even have the sense to apologise. That is all. -- /\ /\ <\ />Indi ^ 'v-v' On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 11:28:20PM -0400, Saralou wrote: >Indi, you neutralize any credibility I could have ascribed to your >arguments by resorting to name calling. Linda isn't a troll... >she's been posting to the Silver List for quite a while. My files only >go back 9 months but she's there, contributing health related info. >What you screamed was "lying", I saw as having a perspective different >from yours. You apparently trust the government to do something >correctly; Linda appears to trust the government to botch it >completely. >When someone who objects to the bill uses language that is not >identical to the bill there is an assumption by supporters that readers >can't possibly be able to interpret the bill language correctly. Much >less analyze projected outcomes--especially since both voices have >dramatically different projections for outcomes. >Indi appears to think there's "no plan to wipe out private health care" >and my guess is that Linda looked at the bill, saw the results of >"qualified" plans and the logical end of a single-payer (government) >plan and concluded the bill is hostile to making choices. Her >conclusion regarding the section that specifying that any changes in >current plans cause that plan member to be dumped into the allegedly >now defunct "government option" reflects an understanding that down the >road, no one will get to choose for themselves. That is IF, an employer >continues to offer health insurance at all. There's much incentive in >the bill as I last saw it for employers to pay the fine (tax) and let >the government do it. >Section 163 sets out goals for electronic health records. One of the >goals is to include features that "enable electronic funds transfers, >in order to allow automated reconciliation" between payment and >billing. As Indi said, this does NOT say that the Health Czar has >access to my bank account... but I find it a reasonable conclusion >given the slippery slope of allowing the IRS to determine what an >acceptable health care plan is. (the IRS has access to your bank >account.) Yep. We need to expand the IRS and make it more intrusive. > > Section 431(a) of the bill says that the IRS must divulge taxpayer > identity information, including the filing status, the modified > adjusted gross income, the number of dependents, and "other > information as is prescribed by" regulation. That information will > be provided to the new Health Choices Commissioner and state health > programs and used to determine who qualifies for "affordability > credits." > Section 245(b)(2)(A) says the IRS must divulge tax return details -- > there's no specified limit on what's available or unavailable -- to > the Health Choices Commissioner. The purpose, again, is to verify > "affordability credits." > Section 1801(a) says that the Social Security Administration can > obtain tax return data on anyone who may be eligible for a > "low-income prescription drug subsidy" but has not applied for it. > [1]http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/08/26/taking_liberties/entry526 > 8079.shtml > >What a shame you couldn't carry on a conversation with Linda instead of >screaming that she was "a LIAR and a TROLL" It's clear you disagree. >Why get ugly about it? >Saralou > > > Indi wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 08:45:10AM -0700, Linda Ellis wrote: > >That pretty much explains why this is so difficult. The Democrats are all >about moving toward single-payer, mandating "basic services," and having a >lot of control centralized at the Federal level. > > > That's a lie. People will be free to keep their current plan. >
Re: CS>dorothy
That's an interesting claim; if you would please post such questions to the OT list. And BTW if you do that be sure to have a citation for your claim, otherwise it's merely an unfounded assertion. Plenty of people believe everything they read, as long as it supports "their side". They often don't realize they're just repeating BS. -- /\ /\ <\ />Indi ^ 'v-v' On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 02:07:26PM -0700, nupa_n...@hotmail.com wrote: > how do explain the mortality rate of breast cancer in the UK compared > to the mortality rate here in the US? Also the mortality rate of Colin > cancer there in the UK compared to what we have here in the US? > --- On Sat, 9/5/09, Indi wrote: > > From: Indi > Subject: Re: CS>Life Enhancement:: The Truth about Healthcare Reform > ( OT) > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 4:00 PM > > Thanks for that, Dee. > BTW, at least one person here thinks all British people have bad teeth > due to the lack of dental care. At least that's what he said on the OT > list... > A lot of lies and dirty tricks going on in the US right now. > -- > /\ /\ ><\ />Indi > ^ > 'v-v' > On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 09:36:12PM +0100, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: > >Well I live in the UK and am damn glad we have health care here! > I > >don't care who gets treated on my money as long as I do. I know > that I > >or any member of my family can go to any doctor or hospital and be > >treated. I'm not bothered about ordinary day to day things but if > you > >have an accident like my son did, then you are treated straight > away. > >I also don't agree with people who run the system down as we have > >always had excellent treatment when needed. dee > > > >On 5 Sep 2009, at 21:17, Indi wrote: > > > >On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 03:07:34PM -0400, Ode Coyote wrote: > > > > If it's public, you pay for it.. used or not. > > > > Ode > > > > I'll run my own life, thank you very much, and I don't care > whether > > I live > > > > in a country with universal health or private, because I won't > use > > it. > > > > Period. > > > > Thora > > > >And if it's private you'll either pay for it or be tragically > sorry you > >didn't > >or couldn't if you have an accident that leaves you needing > medical > >attention. > >If only we could be sure of such things... But of course, we > can't. > >A Dirty Harry quote comes to mind: "you've got to ask yourself one > >question: > >Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?". ;) > >-- > >/\ /\ > > <\ />Indi > > ^ > > 'v-v' > >-- > >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal > Silver. > >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: > [1][1]http://silverlist.org > >To post, address your message to: [2][2]silver-l...@eskimo.com > >Address Off-Topic messages to: > [3][3]silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > >The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > >List maintainer: Mike Devour <[4][4]mdev...@eskimo.com> > > > > References > > > >1. [5]http://silverlist.org/ > >2. mailto:[6]silver-l...@eskimo.com > >3. mailto:[7]silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > >4. mailto:[8]mdev...@eskimo.com > > References > >1. http://silverlist.org/ >2. http://us.mc376.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-l...@eskimo.com >3. > http://us.mc376.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >4. http://us.mc376.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mdev...@eskimo.com >5. http://silverlist.org/ >6. http://us.mc376.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-l...@eskimo.com >7. > http://us.mc376.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >8. http://us.mc376.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS>Life Enhancement:: The Truth about Healthcare Reform ( OT)
Thanks for that, Dee. BTW, at least one person here thinks all British people have bad teeth due to the lack of dental care. At least that's what he said on the OT list... A lot of lies and dirty tricks going on in the US right now. -- /\ /\ <\ />Indi ^ 'v-v' On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 09:36:12PM +0100, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: >Well I live in the UK and am damn glad we have health care here! I >don't care who gets treated on my money as long as I do. I know that I >or any member of my family can go to any doctor or hospital and be >treated. I'm not bothered about ordinary day to day things but if you >have an accident like my son did, then you are treated straight away. >I also don't agree with people who run the system down as we have >always had excellent treatment when needed. dee > >On 5 Sep 2009, at 21:17, Indi wrote: > >On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 03:07:34PM -0400, Ode Coyote wrote: > > If it's public, you pay for it.. used or not. > > Ode > > I'll run my own life, thank you very much, and I don't care whether > I live > > in a country with universal health or private, because I won't use > it. > > Period. > > Thora > >And if it's private you'll either pay for it or be tragically sorry you >didn't >or couldn't if you have an accident that leaves you needing medical >attention. >If only we could be sure of such things... But of course, we can't. > A Dirty Harry quote comes to mind: "you've got to ask yourself one >question: >Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?". ;) >-- >/\ /\ > <\ />Indi > ^ > 'v-v' >-- >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: [1]http://silverlist.org >To post, address your message to: [2]silver-l...@eskimo.com >Address Off-Topic messages to: [3]silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... >List maintainer: Mike Devour <[4]mdev...@eskimo.com> > > References > >1. http://silverlist.org/ >2. mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com >3. mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >4. mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS>Life Enhancement:: The Truth about Healthcare Reform ( OT)
On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 03:07:34PM -0400, Ode Coyote wrote: > >> If it's public, you pay for it.. used or not. > > > Ode > >> I'll run my own life, thank you very much, and I don't care whether I live >> in a country with universal health or private, because I won't use it. >> Period. >> >> Thora > And if it's private you'll either pay for it or be tragically sorry you didn't or couldn't if you have an accident that leaves you needing medical attention. If only we could be sure of such things... But of course, we can't. A Dirty Harry quote comes to mind: "you've got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?". ;) -- /\ /\ <\ />Indi ^ 'v-v' -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Unidentified subject!
Some people fear argyria, which they believe can be averted by using selenium to help wth elimination of "excess silver" from the body. Not at all necessary if all you're using is EIS. There is no "potential harmful effect" of using EIS -- unless of course you're a single-celled organism... :) -- /\ /\ <\ />Indi ^ 'v-v' On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 08:00:46PM +0100, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: >Sorry I missed all this. What is the point of selenium with CS? CS is >to kill bacteria/viruses so why would we need to take selenium which is >a mineral/anti-oxidant? dee > >On 5 Sep 2009, at 08:06, Neville Munn wrote: > >I've been ingesting my own EIS every day for a number of years now and >I take *nothing* else, perhaps I could be reminded of why I may need to >take *anything* else? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Vit. D overdose
On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 08:21:20AM -0400, ejohns9...@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 9/4/2009 8:26:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, >bhangcha...@gmail.com writes: > > Chocolate is a dog poison... > Dan > >Also poison for pot belly pigs > > > >Edith > __ Yes, it's a poison to all pigs -- even boars. -- /\ /\ <\ />Indi ^ 'v-v' -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Life Enhancement:: The Truth about Healthcare Reform ( OT)
Well, it's good to have health care coverage in the event of catastrophic traumatic injury, that's the one area in which western allopathic medicine excels. But otherwise yes, I do agree. Prevention is the best medicine. Since I stopped seeing doctors and started using CS and other alternatives my health has steadily improved. -- /\ /\ <\ />Indi ^ 'v-v' On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 12:59:06PM -0700, Thora Rasmusen (Home) wrote: > I live in a country with universal health care, and it's just as corrupt as > the US. The problem with health care is not insurance or universal health > care, or anything like that. > > It's the fact that main stream medicine completely ignores the fact that > what we eat causes us to be sick. The promotion of junk food and garbage > food is beyond any movement to promote healthy food. The craziness in our > modern day system is all the insane things they do to our food, with > pesticides, herbicides, food additives, chemicals in the water. It is > everywhere, and so very few people have any knowledge of the damage these > things do. So very few people have any idea of what healthy food is. > Yesterday, I watched some one who had a blasting head ache all day sit down > and eat an apple turnover, made with premixed pastry, premixed apple > filling, premixed sugar topping, and a chocolate milk, and she truly thought > it would make her feel better. What passes for food is disgusting, and what > passes for restaurants is disgusting. I cringe every time I see the premade > restaurant food delivery truck pull up to a restaurant. No one has any idea > what whole food is, or what home made means. > > I'd love to see future food charts include a section called "non-food" to > include things like sugar, white flour, etc. so that people begin to > understand that there are things you should never eat. > > There are extremely few people out there sharing with us the damage that > this stuff does, and those who do are ridiculed beyond belief. There is too > much money to be made in processing food, and they have the knowledge to > hire marketers, add people and the like. There is no money to be made in > whole food, etc. > > Our society will need to make some sort of shift to get to the point where > it will promote something that will make a huge portion of society poorer > money wise so that all can be healthy. I have no idea what that shift will > be. But I sure do know that all those around me think I'm a fruit cake with > my eat natural attitude. Very few would tolerate that, and would just go > back to following the crowd, so as to not make waves. Our society does not > teach bucking the system at all. We're taught to follow, listen to the > "experts", and don't question. We are certainly not taught to question our > medical system, that's taboo. > > So, if you're interested in health, do not listen to any expert, do your own > research, and it will take a massive commitment of time. This knowledge > isn't going to be handed to you on a silver platter. Remember, no oen makes > a dime if you get well. No one. Only you are better off. No one is put in > a stronger position of control if you are well. No one. Only you are > stronger. No government agency or insurance company is better off if you > are well, the reason for their existence will disappear if you are well, > they will not be needed to take care of you, they will not be needed to run > your life if your are well. You can then run your own life. Remember, only > you benefit if you are well. > > I'll run my own life, thank you very much, and I don't care whether I live > in a country with universal health or private, because I won't use it. > Period. > > Thora > > -Original Message- > From: Clayton Family [mailto:clay...@skypoint.com] > Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 8:11 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>Life Enhancement:: The Truth about Healthcare Reform ( OT) > > If you think there is no rationing of health care right now, then you have > been blessed with good heath. Or maybe you can get along ok with what passes > for health care. But rationing does exist- through denial of care and > exclusions of preexisting conditions. HMO's are big business at it's worst- > making BILLIONS of dollars, even right now at the height of the recession. > they are raking it in; by denying care and denying payment to doctors. They > try to keep it all, as much as possible. > > The "Truth" that is represented here is a slanted view that is not based on > reality- it IS happening already. > > To have
Re: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2009 #494
Good Morning Dee and Peter, EIS is usually going to be a mix of particulate (colloidal) and ionic. There are people who believe colloidal is better, as well as those who claim ionic is better. Also I notice Peter said his silver levels were "300 times higher than they should be". The obvious question here is "Should be? According to whom?" In any event, Dee is correct that you should have been making your own (or at least done some real research rather than being bamboozled by Invive's marketing people). Invive's product is not representative of the products most of us are using; it is not pure Electrically Isolated Silver and is potentially dangerous. Therefore I'd just like to respectfully point out that as you actually haven't used CS, any BS isn't ours... HTH, -- /\ /\ <\ />Indi ^ 'v-v' On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 11:36:44AM +0100, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: >Maybe the products you tried were colloidal silver and not electrically >islolated silver? Ionic silver is supposed to be better (in a lot of >opinions) than colloidal. If you had made your own it would have been >a fraction of that cost though. Sorry it didn't work for you, but it >has worked on thousands of conditions (including Lyme I believe) so no >need to trash. dee > >On 3 Sep 2009, at 08:02, Peter wrote: > > > Dear silver-list > > Just to let you know, I have tried Colloidal Silver intensely to heal > me from Lyme. > I spend 7000 USD on products, especially a lot of product from INVIVE > company. > To no help what so ever. I did a metal test resantly and the silver > levels in my cells are 300 times higher than they should be. The Lyme > is as bad as it has ever been. > > I'm now on MMS, that helps much better then any CS > > Thanks so much for CS or is it BS? > > Best -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: No Side Effects?
Oh yes I don't doubt that Malcolm, just noting that that photo has obviously been altered. Possibly due to journalistic laziness, or maybe the desire to make it look more sensational than it looked in the original photo. -- /\ /\ <\ />Indi ^ 'v-v' On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 09:00:03PM -0700, Malcolm wrote: > Hey Indi; > > I read the article and followed up a little, and those people really are > blue, unto indigo at times! Who knows, maybe Bluebeard was a double > recessive!? > > On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 17:45 -0400, Indi wrote: > > The pic is pretty obviously photoshopped. > > Still, it's an interesting article. > > > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>Re: No Side Effects?
The pic is pretty obviously photoshopped. Still, it's an interesting article. -- /\ /\ <\ />Indi ^ 'v-v' On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 10:26:23AM -1000, Smitty wrote: > Blue people of Kentucky = > > http://tinyurl.com/97j5x8 > > Smitty > > > > > BUT, and this is a possibility, he could also have been from Kentucky, > > Lonesome > > Creek if I remember it. As a child during the depression my Grandma's > > childhood > > friend died and she hired a man with a car to take us from West Virginia to > > this > > way out place in Kentucky. The name of it I remember and also remember very > > well playing with kids with brown hair, black/red/blonde, with green > > eyes/brown/black/ > > hazel, but they all had blue skin of one shade to another. From palest blue > > up to a > > dark blue like a plum, they all had blue skin. I had some pictures of that > > time but at > > that time all we could afford was black and white, so they all looked like > > mixed races > > and the blue couldn't be seen. > > > > > > Granny Pat in CA > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>health care reform (OT)
Please kindly reserve your political propaganda for the appropriate venues. Thank you! On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 06:55:59AM -0400, Karen and Jerry Conrad wrote: >This is what Obama's Healthcare reform will do to the middle class of >which I am one. FORGET IT!!! I wont pay for YOU who DON'T have it, I >didn't have it till this past April, I have a son with Type I Diabetes and >Graves Disease, everything has been out of pocket and most still is cause >it is a preexisting condition. PUT YOUR BIG GIRL PANTIES ON AND DEAL WITH >IT! TOO BAD!!! I REFUSE TO PAY FOR YOU WHO DON'T HAVE IT! > > > >By the way... IT WAS TAKEN OFF THE VIDEO TAPES OF THE FLOOR OF OUR >NATIONAL LEGISLATURE > >GET THIS OUT TO EVERYONE!!! > > CLICK HERE >[1]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G44NCvNDLfc&feature=player_embedded > > > > > >Blessings, Karen Conrad >For God hath not given us the spirit of fear, but of power and of love and >of a sound mind. 2TI 1:7 >Folks, I read the last chapter, WE WIN! > > References > >Visible links >1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G44NCvNDLfc&feature=player_embedded > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G44NCvNDLfc&feature=player_embedded -- /\ /\ <\ /> ^ Indi 'v-v' -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Maybe CS and Vit D would be a whole lot safer forr Swine Flu FW: Ten Things You're Not Supposed to Know About the Swine Flu Vaccine
Flu vaccines in general are at best useless. >From all I've read I believe H1N1 itself will be less a problem than the "normal" yearly flu. All the brouhaha reminds me of the mid-80s, when there was a lot of panic about AIDS, and people were claiming that there would be "concentration camp" quarantine facilities. There was also a "swine flu" scare in 1976, nothing really came of that one either (other than the deaths caused by the vaccine). -- /\ /\ <\ />Indi ^ 'v-v' On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 01:24:21PM -0400, Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC wrote: > > > > TEN THINGS YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO KNOW ABOUT THE SWINE FLU VACCINE > > http://i471.photobucket.com/albums/rr74/JBriske/Work/shh.jpg > > > (atleast not by anyone in authority...) > > Written by: Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, NaturalNews Editor > > > > #1 - The vaccine production was "rushed" and the vaccine has never been > tested on humans. Do you like to play guinea pig for Big Pharma? If so, line > up for your swine flu vaccine this fall... > > #2 - Swine flu vaccines contain dangerous adjuvants that cause an > inflammatory response in the body. This is why they are suspected of causing > autism and other neurological disorders. > > #3 - The swine flu vaccine could actually increase your risk of death from > swine flu by altering (or suppressing) your immune system response. There is > zero evidence that even seasonal flu shots offer any meaningful protection > for people who take the jabs. Vaccines are the snake oil of modern medicine. > > #4 - Doctors still don't know why the 1976 swine flu vaccines paralyzed so > many people. And that means that they really have no clue whether the > upcoming vaccine might cause the same devastating side effects. (And they're > not testing it, either...) > > #5 - Even if the swine flu vaccine kills you, the drug companies aren't > responsible. The U.S. government has granted drug companies complete immunity > against vaccine product liability. Thanks to that blanket immunity, drug > companies have no incentive to make safe vaccines, because they only get paid > based on quantity, no safety (zero liability). > > #6 - No swine flu vaccine works as well as vitamin D to protect you from > influenza. That's an inconvenient scientific fact that the U.S. government, > the FDA and Big Pharma hope the people never realize. > > #7 - Even if the swine flu vaccine actually works, mathematically speaking if > everyone else around you gets the vaccine, you don't need one! (Because it > can't spread through the population you hang with.) So even if you believe in > the vaccine, all you need to do is encourage your friends to get vaccinated... > > #8 - Drug companies are making billions of dollars from the production of > swine flu vaccines. That money comes out of your pocket -- even if your don't > get the jab -- because it's all paid by the taxpayers. > > #9 - When people start dying in larger numbers from the swine flu, rest > assured that many of them will be the very people who got the swine flu > vaccine. Doctors will explain this away with their typical Big Pharma logic: > "The number saved is far greater than the number lost." Of course, the number > "saved" is entirely fictional... imaginary... and exists only in their own > warped heads. > > #10 - The swine flu vaccine centers that will crop up all the world in the > coming months aren't coompletely useless: They will provide an easy way to > identify large groups of really stupid people. (Too bad there isn't some sort > of blue dye that we could tag 'em with for furture reference...) > > The lottery, they say, is a tax on people who can't do math. Similarly, flu > vaccines are a tax on people who don't understand health. > > That's it in a nutshell. This vaccine is not only NOT necessary, it is also > dangerous. Instead of "We he People"...we will soon be known as "We the > Guinea Pigs"...Don't let that happen to you. > > See Drs. Ed and Sandie to learn what you can do above and beyond getting > adjusted to keep your immune system healthy this season. > > > > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>source for DMSO
My refrigerator is at 40 degrees F and when I tried to do this, there was no liquid left unfrozen to pour off. So I guess it's pretty good stuff then. :) I get it here: http://tinyurl.com/naembr -- /\ /\ <\ />Indi ^ 'v-v' On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 09:27:40AM -0400, Saralou wrote: >DMSO freezes at appx 65ºF. Refrigerators are generally kept at >40ºF.Logic says that the frozen stuff is DMSO and the not frozen >stuff is not DMSO. >The reason I believe that the process further "cleans" DMSO is because >the liquid has concentrated odor. The "treated" DMSO seems to have a >reduced odor...but that may just be wishful thinking on my part. >[1]http://fscimage.fishersci.com/msds/07770.htm >[2]http://www.sensorsone.co.uk/temperature-units-conversion.html >___ > >Scott Adams wrote: > > How do you know its more pure when you get done? If you are starting with > typical 99.7% pure DMSO where is the extra coming from that you are pouring > out? > > I am not saying you are wrong but I am trying to understand if this is > really effective and a good idea. > > > -Original Message- > From: Dan Nave [[3]mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 9:53 AM > To: [4]silver-l...@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>source for DMSO > > To further purify the DMSO, put it in you refrigerator until > most of it is frozen. Then pour out the liquid portion which > will have most of the (water soluble) smelly stuff in it. > What's left behind is very pure. > > You can pour the liquid portion into a clear plastic drinking > water bottle and re-freeze it and repeat the process. That > way you will waste less, although it may not end up auite as > smell free as the first batch. > > Dan > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Ken & Nancy > Bagwell[5] wrote: > > Thank you, Tel. I'll check my area to see if there are any tack > stores nearby. I know there is one in Clayton, CA nearby where I > live, but that is about a 40 minute drive through busy areas. > Otherwise, I guess I'll just order some online. > -Ken Bagwell > > From: Tel Tofflemire [6] > To: [7]silver-l...@eskimo.com > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:57:39 AM > Subject: Re: CS>source for DMSO > > Hey Ken & Nancy, > A tack store has this brand on hand for a couple bucks cheaper & no > shipping charge. > A tack store is a place that sells horse feed, saddles, > > grooming stuff,etc. > > But DMSO is all GOOD if made in the USA. > > Tel Tofflemire > Dewey, AZ. > > --- On Thu, 8/27/09, Ken & Nancy Bagwell > > [8] wrote: > > From: Ken & Nancy Bagwell [9] > Subject: CS>source for DMSO > To: [10]silver-l...@eskimo.com > Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 3:41 AM > > Hi all, > I'd like to try Brooks' method of combining DMSO and peroxide to > whiten teeth. However, I'm totally unfamiliar with DMSO. > Looking online, DMSO.com has 99% pure stuff for sale. Is there any > reason in the world I should not buy it from them? > -Ken Bagwell > > start: -00-00 end: -00-00 > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: [11]http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: [12]silver-l...@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: [13]silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour [14] > > References > >1. http://fscimage.fishersci.com/msds/07770.htm >2. http://www.sensorsone.co.uk/temperature-units-conversion.html >3. mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com >4. mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com >5. mailto:kenancy2...@yahoo.com >6. mailto:telt...@yahoo.com >7. mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com >8. mailto:kenancy2...@yahoo.com >9. mailto:kenancy2...@yahoo.com > 10. mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com > 11. http://silverlist.org/ > 12. mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com > 13. mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > 14. mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- /\ /\ <\ />Indi ^ 'v-v'
Re: CS>A Cold!!
Thinking that way used to appear to work for me too, but then I met MRSA. But for many years I said, "I refuse to be ill". Then one day that just didn't work anymore. -- /\ /\ <\ /> ^ Indi 'v-v' On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 08:41:12AM -0500, Renee wrote: >Well, the subconscious has a LOT to do with things. If you believe in the >"catching germ theory" (I don't) then your subconscious will say "oh, my >husband's got a cold and, well, he's my husband so naturally I'm going to >catch that cold too because we eat together, drink out of the same >glasses, sleep together. Yep, cold time". and so, there you are--you're >own personal validation of your beliefs. > >I never catch colds--haven't had one in over 15 years, no matter who I'm >around, even my husband, because I gave up my belief in that. It >certainly didn't happen over night, and it took my husband a few more >years than me--because he thought I was nuts but then when he saw that I >didn't catch any colds while he did, he finally gave up that belief too. >Now it's been about 8 years or so since he's had a cold. Or the flu (me >either) > >If we could give up all false beliefs so easily--wouldn't our world be >astounding!!! But truly--giving up your belief in colds and flu is >relatively simply compared to believing that you'll never get any >disease. Maybe not though--maybe it just takes more focus! should start working on that> > >As for positive reason for having a cold, if you have your cold simply >because you believe you "should"--then your positive outcome is being in >sympathy and support of your husband. > >But--isn't staying home nice too? Isn't just relaxing on the couch or >bed, eating ice cream and sleeping a lot (if you can) and not having to >deal with day-to-day problems (if you have someone you can pass them off >to because you're 'sick') nice? Those are positive reinforcements. > >It's like when a person gets the flu. The first person of the season >(many get it because of the belief they will because 'I work with them' or >'I was just with my best friend and now she's sick' syndrome) actually >HATES going to work, absolutely NEEDS a break from work and simply CANNOT >stay home and take that break. He/she has a family to feed, bills to pay. >But it's overwhelming and they really, REALLY need a break. > >So--the flu magically shows up! Now--the subconscious always, always, >moves towards pleasure and away from pain. It always wants to make you >happy. It has a job to do--balance your life between total joy and >reality. :-) > >It listens, judges and decides that 1) you must stay home 2) you shouldn't >stay home and 3) the must stay home is really much more important to you >AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME than the shouldn't stay home. So--because you are >not actually listening to your true feelings the unconscious (called the >Ku in Hawaiian, which is where I learned all this, from Huna) says "well, >since you won't take that break, I'll give you a legitimate reason to take >a break"--because to the Ku, your feeling physically miserable is MUCH >more preferable, and not at all seen as detrimental to your actually well >being, as feeling EMOTIONALLY and SPIRITUALLY miserable. > >The highest priority of the Ku is aligning your physical body and world >with your emotional and spiritual beliefs. That's the key--the big Secret >everyone talks about--behind everything we do. You have to be in >emotional alignment with your physical world. If you are filled with joy >all the time, your physical desires are always met (and unfortunately >being filled with despair or fear, your physical world reflects that, >too). It's what "the Secret" is all about. It's what has been taught >through the ages by all great spiritual teachers. Our Ku understands >this. When we 'get it' consciously--look out. That's what gives people >true power. > >So--back to your cold. Now it is up to you to decide--did I get this so I >can kick back on the sofa and relax for a couple days, even if I have my >box of Kleenex sitting next to me, or did I get it because I expected to >because my husband has it? Then you can decide if you wish to continue >either of those belief systems. > >Then, according to your beliefs, you c
Re: CS>Placebos are becoming more effective
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 01:34:22PM -0400, Marshall Dudley wrote: > This is cool, and I might add fully expected by those of us who realize > that the level of "light" is increasing rapidly to the earth in > preparation for 2012. This increase in "spiritual" light is manifesting > in many ways, including climate changes on every planet in our solar > system, increasing psychic abilities, and this is nothing more than an > extension of that, mind over body is increasing. So those that "think" > wellness are getting well, but the downside is of course those who think > "sick" are doing themselves in. Interestingly the pharms are clueless > as to what is causing this, and the realization that when it is > complete, no one will need pharms at all. At this time though most > people need the crutch of the "placebo" to elicit the healing because > their conscious mind simply cannot grasp they can heal themselves > without such a physical anchor. > > http://www.wired.com/medtech/drugs/magazine/17-09/ff_placebo_effect > > Marshall I too believe the level of light is increasing, but I think it's just what we call the greenhouse effect. :) Wired magazine is like the National Enquirer for semi-computer-literate people, so I wouldn't read too much into what they have to say, frankly. Anyone else remember their fear-mongering article on Y2K from the September 1998 issue? Classic yellow journalism... -- /\ /\ <\ /> ^ 'v-v'Indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Oxysilver
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 08:21:41AM -0700, Pat wrote: >My husband heard a radio program this a.m. about Oxysilver. >[1]http://www.oxysilver.com/company.asp Is there anything to their >claims? At $49.40 for eight ounces of 5 ppm, it must be some great >stuff! lol > I think what he heard may have been an infomercial. It looks like a multilevel marketing thing. -- /\ /\ <\ /> ^ 'v-v'Indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Grave's disease
I see you found an easy substitute for reason. Good luck with that... -- indi On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 05:52:25PM -0400, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: > AHA! The crux of the rant---anti-vegetarian... > > Case closed . > > Chuck > Never eat prunes when you're famished. > > On 8/21/2009 5:08:23 PM, Indi (indi.sha...@gmail.com) wrote: > > You should read the links I posted. > > And just so you know, "organic raw milk and grass fed beef" are still > > dairy > > and meat. The Price > > foundation's emphasis, clearly seen on their website, is > > anti-soy, anti-vegetarian, pro-dairy, pro-meat. Any other characterization > > of > > them is simply dishonest. And that is the the very last thing I'm > > going to > > say about it. Anyone who has any sense can see the truth easily enough. > > > > -- > > indi > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 04:23:58PM -0400, Del wrote: > > >The idea that the Weston Price foundation is > > "a shill for the dairy and > > >meat industries" is nonsense. > > > > > >The Price foundation only advocates organic raw milk and grass fed > > >beef, in addition to a diet rich in fruit and vegetables. > > > > > >This, of course, makes them the enemy of the commercial beef and > > milk > > >industries. > > > > > >The Price > > foundation's primary emphasis is on avoiding grains and sugar > > >and refined foods in general. > > > > > >Dr. Weston Price traveled the world to find the healthiest people, and > > >his findings indicated that those who followed a "traditional" diet > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.63/2317 - Release Date: 08/21/09 > 06:04:00 -- indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Grave's disease
You should read the links I posted. And just so you know, "organic raw milk and grass fed beef" are still dairy and meat. The Price foundation's emphasis, clearly seen on their website, is anti-soy, anti-vegetarian, pro-dairy, pro-meat. Any other characterization of them is simply dishonest. And that is the the very last thing I'm going to say about it. Anyone who has any sense can see the truth easily enough. -- indi On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 04:23:58PM -0400, Del wrote: >The idea that the Weston Price foundation is "a shill for the dairy and >meat industries" is nonsense. > >The Price foundation only advocates organic raw milk and grass fed >beef, in addition to a diet rich in fruit and vegetables. > >This, of course, makes them the enemy of the commercial beef and milk >industries. > >The Price foundation's primary emphasis is on avoiding grains and sugar >and refined foods in general. > >Dr. Weston Price traveled the world to find the healthiest people, and >his findings indicated that those who followed a "traditional" diet >were the healthiest. This mainly included people who subsisted on >locally raised meat, dairy, and vegetables. > >He also found that these same people, when exposed to a "modern" diet >of fast foods, processed foods, and grains, rapidly experienced many of >the same health problems as are rampant in our western society. > >Speaking of evangelists, the soy industry is guilty of extensive >misleading propaganda claiming that soy is a miracle health food. > >One of the big problems with soy is its high estrogen content, which is >very bad for growing children, both male and female. > >If you want to know what the Weston Price foundation thinks of soy, I >suggest you visit their site and read what they have to say. The >literature is extensive and most of it is backed by solid scientific >fact. I, for one, find it quite convincing. > > > >[1]http://www.westonaprice.org/ > > > >Del > > > > > >- Original Message - > >From: [2]Dorothy Fitzpatrick > >To: [3]silver-l...@eskimo.com > >Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 3:13 PM > >Subject: Re: CS>Grave's disease > > I was wondering *why* the Price foundation would want to spread > adverse propaganda about soy. I cannot see that it would benefit > them in any way because people who like meat etc., will never give > it up for soy anyway. It must cost a lot to gather and publish all > this information and unless there was a huge monetary gain (which I > can't see) it would make you wonder why they bothered. Dr Mercola > also says soy is not healthy in the unfermented or un-sprouted form, > and I can't see that he would have an axe to grind, because *he* > isn't involved in the meat industry. > On the other hand, I can see that they soy industry would be *very* > interested in discrediting something like the Price foundation or Me > rcola for that matter, as they would have a lot to lose wouldn't the > y? Anyway, as you say, it is good to have a look at all sides and > then make an informed choice, based on your own conclusions. dee > >On 21 Aug 2009, at 19:29, Indi wrote: > >That's true, and also correlation is not causation. >However, I believe my point (debunking the anti-soy propaganda of the >Price >foundation) was made, and that was my goal. I'm not out to evangelize, >more >like out to debunk evangelists. :) >-- >indi > > References > >1. http://www.westonaprice.org/ >2. mailto:d...@deetroy.org >3. mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com -- indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Grave's disease
I guess you haven't read the links I posted. The Price foundation is largely funded by dairy and meat farmers. Obvious what they would have to gain. :) Mercola I haven't looked into, but the idea that soy has to be fermented is simply in error. People are fallible, so I see nothing sinister in that. BTW probably three fourths of the nutrition advice I see is full of errors and misconceptions, but most of it isn't coming from any evil conspiracy (as far as I know, anyway). A united "soy industry" per se doesn't really exist, though Monsanto and other large corporations who peddle GMOs (including soy-based GMOs) do have quite a stake in seeing *their* soy products incorporated into as many foods as possible. But don't throw out the baby with the bath water. There are high-powered special interests on both sides of the issue, and they do not have *our* best interests in mind. However, I am not affiliated with nor do I endorse any of them. Hence, my previous advice "Beware of GMOs masquerading as health food", "don't use soy (or anything else) as your sole source of protein", etc. -- indi On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 08:13:43PM +0100, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: >I was wondering *why* the Price foundation would want to spread adverse >propaganda about soy. I cannot see that it would benefit them in any >way because people who like meat etc., will never give it up for soy >anyway. It must cost a lot to gather and publish all this information >and unless there was a huge monetary gain (which I can't see) it would >make you wonder why they bothered. Dr Mercola also says soy is not >healthy in the unfermented or un-sprouted form, and I can't see that he >would have an axe to grind, because *he* isn't involved in the meat >industry. >On the other hand, I can see that they soy industry would be *very* int >erested in discrediting something like the Price foundation or Mercola >for that matter, as they would have a lot to lose wouldn't they? Anyw >ay, as you say, it is good to have a look at all sides and then make an > informed choice, based on your own conclusions. dee > >On 21 Aug 2009, at 19:29, Indi wrote: > >That's true, and also correlation is not causation. >However, I believe my point (debunking the anti-soy propaganda of the >Price >foundation) was made, and that was my goal. I'm not out to evangelize, >more >like out to debunk evangelists. :) >-- >indi -- indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Grave's disease
That's true, and also correlation is not causation. However, I believe my point (debunking the anti-soy propaganda of the Price foundation) was made, and that was my goal. I'm not out to evangelize, more like out to debunk evangelists. :) -- indi On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 07:12:12PM +0100, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: >Mind you, there are a lot of things those people consume (or don't >consume) that we do; which can also contribute to this factor, not just >soy. dee > >On 21 Aug 2009, at 18:59, Indi wrote: > >BTW, raw soybeans (edamame) are a potent anti-carcinogen and in some >parts of the eastern hemisphere (which enjoy a much smaller incidence >of >cancer and cardiovascular disease than we have here) unfermented soy is >consumed in fairly large quantities. >HTH, >-- >indi -- indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Soy
No. But nearly everything you buy at your local supermarket is either GMO or was fed GMOs. And even if it's non-GMO odds are it was sprayed with poison. Support organic farmers if you really want to say "no thank you" to poisons and GMOs. -- indi On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 01:00:45PM -0500, Jean Baugh wrote: > Hi, > > Just a question here. Isn't all soy GM (genetically modified), now? > > If so, no thank you! > > Jean > > > > > >> The Weston A. Price foundation is basically a shill for the dairy > >> and meat > >> industries, and their scapegoating of soy pretty much amounts to a > >> disinformation > >> campaign. > > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > -- indi
Re: CS>Grave's disease
That's why I posted those links, because there is a lot of that kind of disinformation about soy being passed around. Of course there is also pro-soy disinformation, propagated by companies like Monsanto who deal in GMOs. One has to do a lot of reading to uncover the truth, which is (predictably) something in between the extremes. To capsulize: Soy is a healthful addition to a proper diet, one shouldn't make it one's sole source of protein, beware of GMOs masquerading as health food. BTW, raw soybeans (edamame) are a potent anti-carcinogen and in some parts of the eastern hemisphere (which enjoy a much smaller incidence of cancer and cardiovascular disease than we have here) unfermented soy is consumed in fairly large quantities. HTH, -- indi On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 06:31:43PM +0100, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: >I thought the body couldn't assimilate soy. Except for fermented or >sprouted that is. dee > > On 21 Aug 2009, at 16:13, Indi wrote: > >The Weston A. Price foundation is basically a shill for the dairy and >meat >industries, and their scapegoating of soy pretty much amounts to a >disinformation >campaign. Look more deeply into their propaganda and you'll see they >have little >regard for the truth. -- indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Grave's disease
Hi Dianne, Naming a thing what it is could be construed as "name calling", but IMO it's a good thing to do it. It isn't simply that I "choose not to agree" Dianne, it's that they do spread dangerous disinformation. I'm sorry if pointing that out upsets you, but facts are facts. However, I have no desire to debate this. I simply provided a few appropriate links in order to raise the awareness of those who might otherwise be fooled by the disinformation. Here's two more: http://ethicaleating.org.uk/2008/10/26/saturatedfatisgoodforyou/ http://www.aviva.ca/article.asp?articleid=14 I'm glad that you have made some progress in your recovery, but IMO you may be misattributing the cause of it. That does happen sometimes. -- indi On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 11:49:53AM -0400, Dianne France wrote: >Indi > >What works for one person doesn't necessarily work for another. I am a >WAP member >only because a friend recommended I try some of their practices when I >was totally >home bound and getting worse. I truly felt doctors were killing me and >they were. >Today I live a fairly normal life thanks to WAP. I don't take >everything they teach as >gospel but am a much healthier person and enjoy life thanks to them. > >If you choose not to agree is one thing but to call them a shill is >another. I believe >my returned health to be my truth. Proof is in the pudding thing:-) I >appreciate many of >your posts, name calling isn't one of them. > >Dianne > >> Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:13:44 -0400 >> From: indi.sha...@gmail.com >> To: silver-list@eskimo.com >> Subject: Re: CS>Grave's disease >> >> The Weston A. Price foundation is basically a shill for the dairy and >meat > __ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Grave's disease
The Weston A. Price foundation is basically a shill for the dairy and meat industries, and their scapegoating of soy pretty much amounts to a disinformation campaign. Look more deeply into their propaganda and you'll see they have little regard for the truth. http://www.radiantrecovery.com/soy4303html.htm http://unreasonable.org/node/1642 http://www.soytoy.com/soyvey.html The fact is there are positives and negatives to soy, just as with practically every other food on the planet. Don't base your diet on a single food (duh), and don't be fooled by the meat industry's disinformation campaigns! -- indi On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 05:53:19AM -0700, Thora Rasmusen (Home) wrote: > Stay away from soy. This is a big task, as it has about 40 different names. > > Here's a good place to start: > http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/index.html > > Thora > > -Original Message- > From: Jean Baugh [mailto:oldgl...@bigcountry.net] > Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 1:29 PM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: CS>Grave's disease > > Hi, > > A friend of mine told me they were diagnosed with Grave's disease and there > were two options; prescription drugs or removal of the thyroid gland. The > symptoms are awful, sounds like an auto immune attack. > > Does anyone have information on this disease that might be of help? > > Thank you, > > Jean > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.63/2316 - Release Date: 08/20/09 > 18:06:00 > -- indi
Re: CS>Invive
Yes, agreed about that Invive -- dangerous stuff. But you know, some people heal from the power of suggestion, aka "faith healing" or "the placebo effect". Hey, whatever works. -- indi Effectiveness is the measure of truth. On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 06:03:36AM -0400, Ode Coyote wrote: > > > Invive is Mild Silver Protein > MSP is said to be about 1/50 as effective as home made as most of the > silver is covered by protein and the particle sizes are pretty large. > You can Google "Chemical Supply" and buy MSP powder by the kilo for a > reasonable price...just mix with water. > There is now another product in the catalog called "nano-silver powder". > which is probably far superior. > > The Invive website only survives making ludicrous claims and dangerous > recommendations *** because it's based in Canadaand I don't think it > makes any Canadian sales. > "loophole" to avoid the FTC and FDA and whatever Canadian legalities as well > > *** To bring the level of silver "in the blood stream" up to a effective > 20 PPM, it takes. > > WHAT > > If I were you I'd stay away from that pack of dangerous crooks [Invive] > > Ode > > > > At 02:20 PM 8/19/2009 +0100, you wrote: >> I don't think anyone would recommend taking this ppm for any length of >> time. Much better (and cheaper!) to make your own and just as, if not >> more, effective. dee >> >> On 19 Aug 2009, at 01:10, >> <mailto:luv2h...@optonline.net>luv2h...@optonline.net wrote: >> >>> Marshallee... >>> >>> Thanks and glad to hear the CS helped with your Lyme. Mine is in the >>> late disseminated stage as well, had it since 1986 though it was only >>> diagnosed 3 years ago. Three years of antibiotics, both orally and >>> shots, haven't helped too much so I'm looking into other options. CS >>> appears to be a recommended option and I've just started using a >>> product called Invive 5000 ppm.however, at the recommended dosage >>> of 4 teaspoons per day it will become somewhat expensive at $100 per >>> 118 ml bottle. So I have some questions, if you don't mind. >>> > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Adjunctive Protocol for DMSO (TOPICAL) Applications
Thanks, Steve. It does sound interesting, hope you'll let us know if you come up with anything. -- indi On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 05:24:23PM -0500, Norton, Steve wrote: > > Indi, > > Actually, this is something I am just getting interested in so I really > don't have anything solid. I was trying to find a report that I remember > seeing last year (or 2 yrs ago?) that showed that taking low doses of > methlene blue was effective against cancer. I haven't yet found that > report but I did run across this report: > http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2007SPIE.6427E..11B. I find it interesting > but have not yet found a practical way of using it. One problem is that > it needs oxygen in the tissues to work. A hyperbaric chamber is > impractical for most of us. There are other options to look at such as > ozone, hydrogen peroxide, magnesium peroxide, chlorine dioxide, ... > > Also, if you search Earth Clinic, you find that MB may be effective for > Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, fungus, malaria, cyanide poisoning, extreme > weakness, loss of energy, chronic fatigue sysndrome and extreme mental > exhaustion. For those interested in swine flu the following is from the > Earth Clinic: > > > "07/22/2009: Ted (par...@yahoo.com) from Bangkok, Thailand writes: "... > I have encountered a person who was dying from swine flu, pretty much > the doctors have given up. Tamiflu simply didn't work both as prevention > and in advanced cases of the swine flu, or the 2009 Viruses. The only > thing that has helped this man in ICU was actually the hourly dose for > 24 hour of 1000 mg of lysine. For weeks he was on high fever, and the > only thing that can tame his fever was actually the lysine. When he did > get better and body temperature became normal, the lysine dose was > switched to 2000 mg every two hours, since every hour prevented him > having long sleep. Lysine was fed via tube. Ideally the lysine dose can > be spaced much further if there is no increase in any fever. Since this > man was a confirmed H1N1, where it took a week to found out he did have > H1N1, the swine flu ate away about half of his lungs, from excessive > mucus, and the man was not able to breathe on his own, and has to be on > an artificial respirator. As a result, the excessive mucus was > controlled with 4 tablets of chinese herbal supplements ganmaoling > tablets, taken every 4 hours so it may again disturb his sleep schedule. > Within the first hour, there were clear indications of reduced mucus, > and it was this that ate away his lungs. His inability to breathe was > placed on artificial respirator, as a result two more supplements needed > to restore his normal breathing using methylene blue 0.1% taken at 2 > drops one in the morning and two drops one in the evening. Since > methylene blue did restore or return his breathing and was taken off the > artificial respirator within the week, the methylene blue caused him to > sleep less as he now has more energy. Therefore the dose was reduced to > one drop in the morning and one drop at 12.00 p.m. Tamiflu was not > helpful both as prevention and when people did have it since some were > on tamiflu."" > > Also this report: > http://www.biomedexperts.com/Abstract.bme/14724055/Methylene_blue_improv > es_brain_oxidative_metabolism_and_memory_retention_in_rats > > "Together the findings suggest that low-dose MB enhances spatial memory > retention in normal rats by increasing brain cytochrome c oxidase > activity." > > And http://learnmem.cshlp.org/content/11/5/633.full: > Extinction Memory Improvement by the Metabolic Enhancer Methylene Blue > > And > http://pipeline.corante.com/archives/2008/07/31/rember_for_alzheimers_me > thylene_blues_comeback.php > Rember for Alzheimer's: Methylene Blue's Comeback > > And this forum > http://www.imminst.org/forum/index.php?s=947f9ef770bf8d58786849b97f52c75 > 1&showtopic=23947&pid=337485&st=100&#entry337485 > > > > So for right now I think it is worth further investigation. > > - Steve > > -Original Message- > From: Indi [mailto:indi.sha...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 1:01 PM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>Adjunctive Protocol for DMSO (TOPICAL) Applications > > Hey Steve, > > You roused my curiosity so I searched but didn't find much info on > methylene blue other than that it is used to treat aquariums. Can you > point me at some more info? > > Thanks, > -- > indi > > > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 02:26:40PM -0500, Norton, Steve wrote: > >What great timing! I have been considering a report that showed > that > >use of
Re: CS>Adjunctive Protocol for DMSO (TOPICAL) Applications
Hey Steve, You roused my curiosity so I searched but didn't find much info on methylene blue other than that it is used to treat aquariums. Can you point me at some more info? Thanks, -- indi On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 02:26:40PM -0500, Norton, Steve wrote: >What great timing! I have been considering a report that showed that >use of IR light with a low dose Methlene Blue is effective against a >number of organisms. I have been wondering if you can use a tanning bed >along with suntan lotion to filter out UV to treat a large area. >Would a tanning bed work with this as well? >- Steve N >___ > >From: Brooks Bradley >To: Silver-list@eskimo.com >Sent: Wed Aug 19 13:58:22 2009 >Subject: CS>Adjunctive Protocol for DMSO (TOPICAL) Applications > >Disclaimer: Please understand that ALL information posted by me...or >any staff memberis for RESEARCH PURPOSES ONLY and in NO WAY >constitutes medical advice or prescription. >Although this comment addresses, mostly, various posts relating to DMSO >uses during the immediate several days past, I believe this information >to be worthy of consideration. >Several years ago we discovered that the application of laser light, or >high-power LED lightfurnished an excellent "multiplying effect" for >topical applications of DMSO. The primary influence came from a simple, >but powerful, increase in local-area circulation. We were able to >decrease swelling presentations and attendant pain, >sometimes by 100%.via the simple expedient of furnishing exposure >of the afflicted area to this form of light. Even the cheapest Laser >pointer yielded measurable, rapid, response. >The most effective results came when the coherent light source was >concentrated directly >at the center of the pain field. While extended exposures (15 to 20 >minutes) did yield the greatest relief.even 5 minutes exposure >measurably accelerated the pain mitigation >generated. While this combination protocol has been, previously, >discussed on the listit has been some time and many newer members >may not be aware of the value---andsafety.of this simple >modifier. >Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. >p.s. One interesting finding, during our general investigations, was >that either low Level Laser or high-power (3500 mcd and up) LED >sources, when aimed directly on areas presenting infections presenting >in the upper throat (especially those fulminating and/or marked by >pustule presences).responded in a majority of cases, with RAPID, >sometimes SPECTACULAR IMPROVEMENT-without support from ANY OTHER >protocol. However, when used in conjunction with 20% DMSO (BY VOLUME) >AND 80% (BY VOLUME) 10 to 15 ppm Colloidal Silver, >we were able to negate the effects of VERY CHALLENGING MRSA >insults.in 90% of our test evaluations. >The DMSO x CS solution was applied via a simple spray bottle and >followed, immediately, with exposure to the concentrated light source. >Be advised: 20% solutions of DMSO sprayed on the epithelial tissues in >the upper throat may---in some cases---cause an involuntary gag-reflex >to manifest. While not dangerous, this condition is, sometimes, >upsetting to susceptible individuals. If the experimental subject >suffers from this hyper-sensitivity type gag-reflex.just lower the >DMSO component to 10%for an acceptable resolution. For applications >addressing EXTERNAL >areas of the body, light sensitivities do not, normally, present the >exposure-time >considerations.as do those involving the interior surfaces >(epithelial) of the body. >5 >CAUTION: Do note that extended exposure to non-filtered, high-energy >light in this part if the spectrum can result in discomforting form of >surface-tissue blistering. Therefore, exposure beyond 5 minutes at a >single session is not recommended for researchers. -- The Silver List >is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for >unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address >your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: >silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List >archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Adjunctive Protocol for DMSO (TOPICAL) Applications
Thank you Brooks. As always, a most informative post. -- indi On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 02:58:22PM -0400, Brooks Bradley wrote: >Disclaimer: Please understand that ALL information posted by me...or >any staff memberis for RESEARCH PURPOSES ONLY and in NO WAY >constitutes medical advice or prescription. >Although this comment addresses, mostly, various posts relating to DMSO >uses during the immediate several days past, I believe this information >to be worthy of consideration. >Several years ago we discovered that the application of laser light, or >high-power LED lightfurnished an excellent "multiplying effect" for >topical applications of DMSO. The primary influence came from a simple, >but powerful, increase in local-area circulation. We were able to >decrease swelling presentations and attendant pain, >sometimes by 100%.via the simple expedient of furnishing exposure >of the afflicted area to this form of light. Even the cheapest Laser >pointer yielded measurable, rapid, response. >The most effective results came when the coherent light source was >concentrated directly >at the center of the pain field. While extended exposures (15 to 20 >minutes) did yield the greatest relief.even 5 minutes exposure >measurably accelerated the pain mitigation >generated. While this combination protocol has been, previously, >discussed on the listit has been some time and many newer members >may not be aware of the value---andsafety.of this simple >modifier. >Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. >p.s. One interesting finding, during our general investigations, was >that either low Level Laser or high-power (3500 mcd and up) LED >sources, when aimed directly on areas presenting infections presenting >in the upper throat (especially those fulminating and/or marked by >pustule presences).responded in a majority of cases, with RAPID, >sometimes SPECTACULAR IMPROVEMENT-without support from ANY OTHER >protocol. However, when used in conjunction with 20% DMSO (BY VOLUME) >AND 80% (BY VOLUME) 10 to 15 ppm Colloidal Silver, >we were able to negate the effects of VERY CHALLENGING MRSA >insults.in 90% of our test evaluations. >The DMSO x CS solution was applied via a simple spray bottle and >followed, immediately, with exposure to the concentrated light source. >Be advised: 20% solutions of DMSO sprayed on the epithelial tissues in >the upper throat may---in some cases---cause an involuntary gag-reflex >to manifest. While not dangerous, this condition is, sometimes, >upsetting to susceptible individuals. If the experimental subject >suffers from this hyper-sensitivity type gag-reflex.just lower the >DMSO component to 10%for an acceptable resolution. For applications >addressing EXTERNAL >areas of the body, light sensitivities do not, normally, present the >exposure-time >considerations.as do those involving the interior surfaces >(epithelial) of the body. >5 >CAUTION: Do note that extended exposure to non-filtered, high-energy >light in this part if the spectrum can result in discomforting form of >surface-tissue blistering. Therefore, exposure beyond 5 minutes at a >single session is not recommended for researchers. -- The Silver List >is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for >unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address >your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: >silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List >archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>FW: YOUR HELP NEEDED TO DEFEAT DANGEROUS FOOD SAFETY LEGISLATION
items, >such as the inspection of imports or the regulation of the huge >industrial food processors, which would actually improve food safety. >> >> 3. While you're discussing the importance of local food systems, take >a moment to also discuss the National Animal Identification System and >the problems it poses. Encourage them to eliminate funding for the >program when the conference committee meets after the August recess. >> >> 4. Be prepared to educate him or her about the issues. Don't be >afraid to say "I don't know" and offer to follow up with more >information after the meeting. >> >> 5. Get the staffer's business card so that you can contact the person >again directly. >> >> After the meeting, write a thank you note. Email or fax is fine. And >then send us your impressions of the meeting so that we know where your >Senators stand and can follow-up as well. >> >> TALKING POINTS (note: these same problems are also found in HR 2749) >> >> - S.510 calls for federal regulation of how farmers grow and harvest >product. Farmers selling food directly to local markets are inherently >transparent and accountable to their customers, and there is no reason >to impose these regulations on them. Based on FDA's track record, it is >likely that such rules will also discriminate against diversified >sustainable farms that produce animals and crops in complementary >systems. >> >> - S.510 expands FDA's powers over food processors, regardless of >their size, scale, or distribution. FDA oversight of small, local food >processors is overreaching and unnecessary. Small processors selling >into local markets do not need federal oversight, unlike the large, >industrial, multi-sourced supply chains that are the cause of most >foodborne illnesses and food recalls. >> >> - S.510 applies a complex Hazard Analysis and Critical Control Point >(HACCP) system to even the smallest local processors, imposing onerous >paperwork and record-keeping on these small businesses. Applying a >HACCP system to local foods facilities processing for local markets, as >well as farmers making value-added products, could undermine and >extinguish these emerging small businesses attempting to bring healthy >local foods to American consumers. In fact, when HAACP was applied to >the meat packing industry, it was instrumental in reducing the number >of smaller regional and local meat packers, yet failed to increase the >number of independent, objective inspectors in giant meat slaughtering >and packing facilities. For comments on HAACP by a small cheesemaker, >see >http://hartkeisonline.com/2009/07/24/small-farmer-warns-hr2749-will-put >-me-out-of-business/. >> >> - Bottom line: One size does not fit all when considering food safety >bills! Local foods businesses are not the same as animal factories or >mega-farms that sell products into industrial scale national and >international markets, and should not be regulated the same way! >> >> >> Our postal address is >> PMB #106-380 >> 4200 Wisconsin Avenue, NW >> Washington, District of Columbia 20016 >> United States >> > __ > >Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. >[1]Find out more. > > References > >1. > http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_online:082009 -- indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: zeolite question please do you drink it?
Thanks for that, Steve. I think I'm going to try that as well. -- indi On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 11:53:07AM -0500, Norton, Steve wrote: >Debbie and Day. >I hope you don,t mind me answering both of your questions together. >My goal was to get rid of a gum infection and not the other items. I >got some calcium bentonite clay. It was a swelling version. Pure >calcium bentonite clay does not swell however sodium bentonite clay >swells about 9 times its dry volume. The clay I had swelled about 3 >times its dry volume. So my guess that it had some sodium bentonite in >it. I already had powdered zeolite but it is gritty when used alone and >so I blended it with the bentonite. >At first I hydraded the clay to a soft mud texture and mixed in some >zeolite. I didn't measure but it was mostly bentonite since the >bentonite was swollen with water. By dry volume they would been close >in volume I think. I would take enough of the mixture to hold in the >mouth covering the teeth and gums. My guess is that it was about 1 >level Tbsp. I would hold it in the mouth from 10 to 30 minutes and then >swallow. I would use it when I would't need to talk - on the bus >to/from work or while on the computer. >Eventially I realized that it wasn't necessary to be thick to work and >I diluted it more to be a liquid and carried it with me in a small >squirt bottle that I could simply shake and take a squirt of it. >- Steve N >___ > >From: Deborah Gerard >To: silver-list@eskimo.com >Sent: Sat Aug 15 10:30:50 2009 >Subject: Re: CS>Re: zeolite question please do you drink it? > >Steve were you using the zeolite/bentonite in water and drinking it? >thanks Debbie >--- On Sat, 8/15/09, Norton, Steve wrote: > > From: Norton, Steve > Subject: CS>Re: zeolite question please > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Date: Saturday, August 15, 2009, 9:22 AM > >I was experimenting on using the zeolite mixed with bentonite to clear >up a gum condition. Then I noticed the mixture was removing stain from >the teeth ad well. Then I noticed the weight loss. I continued using it >to determine if the weight loss was associated with the use of the >mixture and not just a weight fluctuation. >The weight loss was a real surprise. Especially since I was eating a >lot while using the zeolite/bentonite. I really don't know why it >happened but speculate that perhaps one reason the body creates fat is >to reduce toxins and heavy metals by storing it in the fat. The >zeolite/ bentonite, by removing toxins and heavy metals from the blood, >may have reduced the need for the fat storage and the body eliminated >it. >- Steve N -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>My first batch of Liposomal vit-C
Same here, I guess aol strikes out again! All I see is a thin horizontal line on those -- indi On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 04:36:13PM +0100, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: >I'm not getting any message with these emails? dee > >On 15 Aug 2009, at 13:10, [1]m1mar...@aol.com wrote: > > __ > > References > >1. mailto:m1mar...@aol.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>was H2O2 mixed in starter, now funny taste
Exactly, we only know how it tastes (or doesn't, as the case may be) to us. -- indi On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:57:11AM +0100, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: >it is also a fact that different things will taste different to >different people, so who knows how *anything* tastes for real? dee > >On 10 Aug 2009, at 01:37, Indi wrote: > >But it is the silver, at least for all intents and purposes. >Actually, there is always a chemical explanation for how a given taste >occurs. We percieve the output and say "tastes like ". >Will you say, when informed of the chemical reaction that causes the >characteristic flavor of vanilla, "it isn't the vanilla"? Well you >could, >but it's pretty much pointless... >In fact, if you want to be really pedantic there is no sensation > anywhere >but that which is manufactured in our brains. :) >-- >indi >On Sun, Aug 09, 2009 at 05:07:32AM -0400, Ode Coyote wrote: -- indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Recent benefits of colloidal silver
IMNSHO you probably need to RTFM: http://www.magicpub.com/netprimer/acronyms.html HTH, HAND :) -- indi "IDK, my BFF Jill?" On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 05:05:58AM -0400, Dianne France wrote: >sorry, what is IMHO? > __ > >From: one.red...@hotmail.com >To: silver-list@eskimo.com >Subject: RE: CS>Recent benefits of colloidal silver >Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:03:43 +1030 >Hi, > >Now I beg to differ. I don't know about where you are but where I am >people get stomack bugs at any time, and can also have a cold or flu at >the same time, this was well before this swine business ever became >popular. The quacks always put it down to the stock standard "It's >just a virus going around", in other words they haven't a clue, so why >would/should it be any different now? > >I'm no expert on human anatomy but how could bugs come up as EIS is >going down? If this were to be the case then it would pretty much >make EIS not worth two squirts of yabby water surely. > >I think people may sometimes 'hear too much' and rationalization then >tends to take a back seat. IMHO. A level head, logic and common sense >should be the order of the day. And if these people are now well, >what's the point of questioning? Job done, bugs gone, closed book. >Again, IMHO. > >N. > __ > >Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 03:33:36 -0400 >Subject: Re: CS>Recent benefits of colloidal silver >From: one...@gmail.com >To: silver-list@eskimo.com > >Hi Bob. > >I beg to differ. > >The swine flu likes the gut, intestines and lower respiratory systems. >Could be that this is the first signs of the swine. > >I keep track of these things. Two people had almost the same symptoms, >more questions should be asked. Did they eat the same meal,restaurant? >The normal flu usually doesn't affect the lower respiratory systems or >cause vomiting and diarrhea. The swine flu does from what I have >heard. Maybe drinking that much CS it entered the upper intestines? > >IMO > >Sam L. > >On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 1:16 AM, Bob Banever ><[1]bbane...@earthlink.net> wrote: > >keith, > > That's great news Keith but I doubt the condition was a swine >flu. It sounds like a bacterial infection of some sort... salmonella, >e coli etc. CS would certainly work against that quickly if enough was >consumed but it doesn't work so quickly with a flu. Usually takes 2 - >3 days to rid yourself of a flu with CS, even when taking alot of it. >Virus are more difficult to inactivate as they live inside of our >cells. > > Bob > >- Original Message - >From: [2]keith rice >To: [3]silver-l...@eskimo.com > >Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 8:08 AM >Subject: CS>Recent benefits of colloidal silver > >On Tuesday night i spent the whole night being sick and to tell the >truth is was flying out both ends. In the morning my gut was still >really painful and I took a quarter pint of colloidal silver. Literally >within 5 minutes my pain was gone and I felt better. Yesterday my niece >called my with exactly the same symptoms as I had but she had called a >doctor before me and he told her you have swine flu!!! This was an over >the phone diagnosis whch i found incredible. he told her to get a >family member to ome pick up a prescription which was for Tamiflou! >Needless to say i rushed up with a bottle of colloidal silver for my >niece and told her not to take Tamiflou. She had not eaten for 2 days >and was feeling sick and had really sore stomach pains. I gave her a >quarter pint of Colloidal silver and left her with her mother. They >called me back 30 minutes later she was feelling great and was hungry >and ate bacon and eggs as she had been starving. I called her again >this morning and she if feeling great. > >Colloidal silver is a true wonder. > >Keith > >-- >A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough >to take >everything you have. > __ > >Click Here [4]View photos of singles in your area > __ > >Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for >Hotmail�. [5]
Re: CS>was H2O2 mixed in starter, now funny taste
But it is the silver, at least for all intents and purposes. Actually, there is always a chemical explanation for how a given taste occurs. We percieve the output and say "tastes like ". Will you say, when informed of the chemical reaction that causes the characteristic flavor of vanilla, "it isn't the vanilla"? Well you could, but it's pretty much pointless... In fact, if you want to be really pedantic there is no sensation anywhere but that which is manufactured in our brains. :) -- indi On Sun, Aug 09, 2009 at 05:07:32AM -0400, Ode Coyote wrote: > I always thought that it was the silver too, so I was quite surprised to > discover this myself...by experimentation. > > If you make CS in two separate containers that keeps the ions and > anions separate, one will taste bitter, the other not. > The one that has the flavor does not react with H2O2, the other reacts > violently. > The Bell back pack rocket belt is powered that way...spraying 100% H2O2 > over a grid of silver wire to produce instant high pressure steam. > The description of "Alkaline water" includes "bitter flavor" > > > > Silver wire in the mouth is subject to ionization due to battery > effect...may still be tasting OH [-] anions made IN the mouth. > > Ode > > > > At 01:05 PM 8/8/2009 -0400, you wrote: >> On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 08:54:38AM -0400, Ode Coyote wrote: >> > >> > "Silver" has no flavor. >> > >> >> I believe what you mean to say is that you cannot taste silver. >> I certainly can. Take a piece of . silver wire and taste it. >> Maybe you can't, doesn't mean no-one can. >> >> > The metally [actually bitter] flavor comes from the OH [-] anion that's >> > produced in a 1 to 1 ratio with silver ions [aka "Alkaline or Ionized >> > water" ] >> > >> >> Actually, mine has the same taste as . silver wire. >> It isn't bitter (to me). >> >> -- >> indi >> >> >> -- >> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >> >> Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org >> >> To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >> >> Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >> >> The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... >> >> List maintainer: Mike Devour >> > -- indi
Re: CS>Steps to take to avoid forced nominalization
Yes! That book was a hugely entertaining read, especially for a science book. :) There is another version of that "turtles all the way down" story, involving (I think) an anthropologist living with some indigenous tribe somewhere. The tribal chief was alleged to have given that very answer to the anthropologist. I have no idea which version (if any) of the story is actually true... -- indi On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 10:51:49AM -0700, Malcolm wrote: > The Original people of the PNW call the world "Turtle Island" > Turtles are considered water tortoises and their front feet are more > flippery. Tortoises are considered land turtles and their front > flippers are more footy . Terrapins are merely a confusion factor. > > [from A Brief History Of Time] > > A well-known scientist (some say it was Bertrand Russell) once gave a > public lecture on astronomy. He described how the Earth orbits around > the sun and how the sun, in turn, orbits around the centre of a vast > collection of stars called our galaxy. > > At the end of the lecture, a little old lady at the back of the room got > up and said: "What you have told us is rubbish. The world is really a > flat plate supported on the back of a giant tortoise." > > The scientist gave a superior smile before replying, "What is the > tortoise standing on?" > > "You're very clever, young man, very clever," said the old lady. "But > it's turtles all the way down." > > and so it is . . . > > On Sat, 2009-08-08 at 13:00 -0400, Indi wrote: > > > > Depends whether you're talking about Pratchett's work or the original > > references from the Rig Veda (a scipture of ancient India). The Rig > > Veda says tortoise, Pratchett made it a turtle. > > > > -- > > indi > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 12:38:46PM +0100, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: > > >I thought that was a turtle. dee > > >On 7 Aug 2009, at 21:10, Indi wrote: > > > > > > Wow, really? > > > I once read that the earth rests on the back of a giant tortoise. > > > > > > -- > > > indi > > > > > > " > > > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > -- indi
Re: CS>Steps to take to avoid forced flu vaccination
Life is all about serious nonsense. :) -- indi On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 06:12:53PM +0100, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: >Ah, well I thought you were referring to Pratchett's one as I haven't read >about the other one. My interests only extending to entertaining nonsense >rather than serious nonsense. dee >On 8 Aug 2009, at 18:00, Indi wrote: > > Depends whether you're talking about Pratchett's work or the original > references from the Rig Veda (a scipture of ancient India). The Rig > Veda says tortoise, Pratchett made it a turtle. > > -- > indi -- indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>was H2O2 mixed in starter, now funny taste
On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 08:54:38AM -0400, Ode Coyote wrote: > > "Silver" has no flavor. > I believe what you mean to say is that you cannot taste silver. I certainly can. Take a piece of . silver wire and taste it. Maybe you can't, doesn't mean no-one can. > The metally [actually bitter] flavor comes from the OH [-] anion that's > produced in a 1 to 1 ratio with silver ions [aka "Alkaline or Ionized > water" ] > Actually, mine has the same taste as . silver wire. It isn't bitter (to me). -- indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Steps to take to avoid forced flu vaccination
Depends whether you're talking about Pratchett's work or the original references from the Rig Veda (a scipture of ancient India). The Rig Veda says tortoise, Pratchett made it a turtle. -- indi On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 12:38:46PM +0100, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: >I thought that was a turtle. dee >On 7 Aug 2009, at 21:10, Indi wrote: > > Wow, really? > I once read that the earth rests on the back of a giant tortoise. > > -- > indi > > " -- indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>FOE asking to ban CS products or regulate as drugs
Wow, that is unfortunate. They really don't know diddly about CS then, do they? Of course, "nano silver" in manufactured goods should be regulated, so we don't end up killing all the single cell organisms on the planet. But they're way off base about CS. Don't know if it will do any good, but I will write them about it. And thanks Hanneke, for posting a credible and informative link. -- indi On Sat, Aug 08, 2009 at 12:47:38PM +0930, Hanneke wrote: > This is one of the few articles related to the petition the FOE wants > people to sign to be presented to the EPA re the dangers of nano silver > to health and environment. > > http://www.foe.org/healthy-people/nanosilver > > I am sure those seriously interested would be able to find more related > information. > > At 01:29 AM 6/08/2009, you wrote: >> The problem there Indi, is that sometimes the official sites lie like a >> rug I haven't had the time to dig much myself... But when I do, >> I'll see if I can post some more moderate links to news about the >> subject... >> >> >> Annie > > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 090807-0, 07/08/2009 > Tested on: 8/08/2009 12:47:40 PM > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > -- indi
Re: CS> CS vs MRSA, H2O2 vs emphysema
Oh, I forgot to say that I have had my best success (especially topically) using a protocol developed by Brooks Bradley. It calls for 75% CS, 15% Glycerine, and 10% DMSO. This can also be used as a nasal spray, and has all but eliminated my symptoms of sinus allergy when used that way. For me 10% DMSO dehydrated my skin too much, so I went down to 5%. Also ISTR reading somewhere about H2O2 being used intravenously to treat emphysema with great success, sorry I don't remember where I read that but try googling it or maybe someone else on this list knows. -- indi On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 07:02:27PM -0400, Indi wrote: > > I have anecdotal evidence to share, having gone from being a very healthy, > active > person to pretty much an invalid due to MRSA infection. At the time I > discovered > CS the docs were talking about amputating my right leg due to associated > cellulitis and osteomyelitis. I haven't managed to eliminate the MRSA, but it > is mostly under control now since I began using CS. I drink it and at the > first sign of cellulitis I use it topically as well. Lately I have drunk as > much as a pint a day. And of course I still have both my legs. :) > > Best wishes for a speedy recovery for your friend, > -- > indi > > > On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 03:58:50PM -0600, Jim Holmes wrote: > >Hello all, > > > >1. Can anyone help with current information, either anecdotal or formal, > >regarding the current status of CS in the treatment of Methylicillin > >resistant Staph Aureus? I am interested in the "official": and > >"alternative" positions on the subject. > > > >Can anyone refer me to a protocol? > > > >2. Does anyone know how to search England, Scotland, Ireland, or Russia > >for hospitals that perform either Lung Volume Reduction Surgery, or > >placement of Endobronchial Valves for treatment of advanced Emphysema? > > The > > person for whom I am doing this search needs help soon. > > > >Any recommendations or tips will be greatly appreciated. > > > >Jim > > -- > indi -- indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>1. Current Info on CS vs MRSA 2. Where are Lung Volume Reduction Surgery and or Endobronchial Valve Placement procedures being performed?
I have anecdotal evidence to share, having gone from being a very healthy, active person to pretty much an invalid due to MRSA infection. At the time I discovered CS the docs were talking about amputating my right leg due to associated cellulitis and osteomyelitis. I haven't managed to eliminate the MRSA, but it is mostly under control now since I began using CS. I drink it and at the first sign of cellulitis I use it topically as well. Lately I have drunk as much as a pint a day. And of course I still have both my legs. :) Best wishes for a speedy recovery for your friend, -- indi On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 03:58:50PM -0600, Jim Holmes wrote: >Hello all, > >1. Can anyone help with current information, either anecdotal or formal, >regarding the current status of CS in the treatment of Methylicillin >resistant Staph Aureus? I am interested in the "official": and >"alternative" positions on the subject. > >Can anyone refer me to a protocol? > >2. Does anyone know how to search England, Scotland, Ireland, or Russia >for hospitals that perform either Lung Volume Reduction Surgery, or >placement of Endobronchial Valves for treatment of advanced Emphysema? The >person for whom I am doing this search needs help soon. > >Any recommendations or tips will be greatly appreciated. > >Jim -- indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Steps to take to avoid forced flu vaccination
http://zapatopi.net/afdb/ -- indi "The voices in my head don't bother me a bit; it's the voices in *your* head that really scare me." On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 06:34:16PM -0400, Kathy wrote: > > > > > From: W.G.E.N. > > Thanks to WGEN reader, Deborah, for the following: > > > Hi Jackie, > > Notice at the linked website there are words about obeying the > government. The informed U.S. citizens do not want to accept the > genocidal swine flu vaccinations. So many U.S. citizens are uninformed > that the swine flu vaccine has the live virus as well as deadly toxins > like squalene. Some may think that the swine flu vaccine is safe and thus > obey government orders to accept that vaccine. > > Some may think that any government order for forced vaccines is just > a test to see if the U.S. citizens are against government caused > genocide-mass murders. However, numerous countries government officials > have made orders for genocide-mass murders of their citizens using > various methods. > > Already there is genocide-mass murders going in the U.S. through > various methods. Even though, as you know, there are natural remedies for > cancer, the main stream medical system gives cancer patients chemo > therapy and radiation, which causes very many of the cancer patients to > die. Intentionally giving wrong medical treatments causing pateints to > die is genocide-mass murders. > > With their being about 23,000 acknowledged murders in the U.S. each > year, and the state and local elected officials never having become > serious to really tackle the acknowledged murders, that is genocide-mass > murders too. > > With their being from 2 to 4 million abortions (counting those > caused by the I.U.D.s and morning after pills) each year in the U.S. that > is genocide-mass murders too. The government officials have never become > serious about addressing the root causes of many abortions such as > preventing rapes and as to consensual relations between men and women in > which males desert the females due to the pregancy. The government > officials must have been afraid to offend the rapists and other unworthy > males. Some government officials are rapists too.Thus, many government > officials went along with the pol icy of massive abortions. > > I hope that the county sheriffs will be informed about the genocidal > effects of the swine flu vaccine and decide to be against those vaccines > for the public. I hope that the county sheriffs will protect the public > against all enemies whether foreign or domestic. > > Deborah > > From: National Steam Forum > Nomo Lyin > How They're Preparing For "Swine Flu" > Thu Aug 6, 2009 7:28pm > > Here's a brochure for a conference in DC later this month where they > will teach people how to deal with a "Swine Flu" pandemic - and what > scenarios they expect. Looks like they're planning to make a bundle from > conference fees while they're at it. Maybe some of us should attend? As > you can see in the right column, high casualties are anticipated. > > http://www.new-fields.com/ISFC/brochure.pdf > > - Original Message - From: > To: > Cc: "Indi" > Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 4:25 PM > Subject: Re: CS>Steps to take to avoid forced flu vaccination > > >> "Yes, though some states do try to push vax via public schools, there >> is usually an opt-out clause. And of course, there is no law that >> requires children to attend *public* schools. >> >> No, but their are plenty of restrictions put in place by the government >> (and supported by teacher's unions) that severely restrict other >> options. The voucher program for inner-city kids in DC? Worked great, >> killed by the current administration (temporarily extended after outcry >> by the parents of students currently in the program). The concept is >> targeted at every turn, with precisely the goal of eliminating that >> option for most and forcing "customers" into the public school system. >> Trust the government at your peril. >> >> Indi wrote: >> >> = >> >> Hi Kathryn, >> >> On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 10:31:48AM -0500, Clayton Family wrote: >>> >>> To opt out you just need to fill out a form that says you object to it, >>> and sign it in front of a notary, then turn it in. >>> >> >> Yes, though some states do try to push vax via public schools, there >> is usually an opt-
Re: CS>Steps to take to avoid forced flu vaccination
Much as I'd love to debate that with you, this really isn't the venue. Best Regards, -- indi Get your very own Kenyan birth certificate at http://kenyanbirthcertificategenerator.com/ On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 04:25:40PM -0400, slickpic...@cox.net wrote: > "Yes, though some states do try to push vax via public schools, there > is usually an opt-out clause. And of course, there is no law that > requires children to attend *public* schools. > > No, but their are plenty of restrictions put in place by the government (and > supported by teacher's unions) that severely restrict other options. The > voucher program for inner-city kids in DC? Worked great, killed by the > current administration (temporarily extended after outcry by the parents of > students currently in the program). The concept is targeted at every turn, > with precisely the goal of eliminating that option for most and forcing > "customers" into the public school system. Trust the government at your > peril. > > Indi wrote: > > = > > Hi Kathryn, > > On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 10:31:48AM -0500, Clayton Family wrote: > > > > To opt out you just need to fill out a form that says you object to it, > > and sign it in front of a notary, then turn it in. > > > > Yes, though some states do try to push vax via public schools, there > is usually an opt-out clause. And of course, there is no law that > requires children to attend *public* schools. > > > > > I also do not agree with the lines of thought expressed by the link- no > > one in their right mind would sign such a document no matter what their > > belief. The document is non sensical and illogical. > > > > I agree, it reads like a bad joke. > But a surprising number of people display little capacity for critical > thinking and are easily swayed by such paranoid talk. > > -- > indi > "Fear of govt regulation plays right into the hands of big corporate > interests -- and regulation is the only thing that keeps them from > owning us outright." > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > -- indi
Re: CS>Steps to take to avoid forced flu vaccination
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 09:38:46PM +0100, Kirsteen Wright wrote: >On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Indi <[1]indi.sha...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Wow, really? > I once read that the earth rests on the back of a giant tortoise. > >No, no, no, no, no, Indi - it rests on the back of 4 giant elephants >standing on the giant tortoise A'Tuan. :-) > >cheers >Kirsteen (the original Pratchett fan) > LOL that's right, thanks for the correction! -- indi "You can't fool me. It's turtles all the way down!" -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Steps to take to avoid forced flu vaccination
Wow, really? I once read that the earth rests on the back of a giant tortoise. -- indi "It's sentient beings versus the Lizard People." -- Bill Maher On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 12:05:47PM -0700, jr orrilia wrote: >From what I have read, if WHO decides for all countries that vaccinations >are mandatory, if you say no, you will have to take it at gunpoint or be >put in quarantine. > >-- > >From: Sam L. >To: silver-list@eskimo.com >Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 6:40:22 AM >Subject: Re: CS>Steps to take to avoid forced flu vaccination >And what bubble would that be ,yours. maybe your are not quite up to date. >It is a threat, wont need forced vac with all the sheep in >this world.I for one wont get fleced to bad. Have other plans. >Bah bah >On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Hanneke <[1]bloss...@internode.on.net> >wrote: > > Sorry to burst your bubble Indi .. it appears you are not quite up to > where things are leading in USA... > this is a world wide threat.. not the flu but the forced vaccination > part. > > At 01:41 PM 7/08/2009, you wrote: > >Here in the US we don't have forced flu vaccinations or martial law. >I didn't realize things were so out of control in Australia, or for >that matter that you live in Australia... > >-- >indi > >On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 01:22:13PM +0930, Hanneke wrote: >> [2]http://www.thecrowhouse.com/janeburg.html#Avoid >> >> This is NOT a fear mongering email. Just be realistic and learn >what to >> do to avoid the forced flu vaccination. >> >> We all know what to do when we get the flu and there are enough >> suggestions for anti virals available, here and on other lists. >> >> Dealing with martial law and forced vaccinations is a different >matter. >> >> >> > >-- >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: [3]http://silverlist.org > >To post, address your message to: [4]silver-l...@eskimo.com > >Address Off-Topic messages to: [5]silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > >The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > >List maintainer: Mike Devour <[6]mdev...@eskimo.com> > >--- >avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. >Virus Database (VPS): 090806-1, 06/08/2009 >Tested on: 7/08/2009 2:11:32 PM >avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. >[7]http://www.avast.com > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 090806-1, 06/08/2009 > Tested on: 7/08/2009 2:13:37 PM > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. > [8]http://www.avast.com > >-- >A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to >take >everything you have. > >-- > >The new Internet Explorer� 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! >[9]Get it Now for Free! > > References > >Visible links >1. mailto:bloss...@internode.on.net >2. http://www.thecrowhouse.com/janeburg.html#Avoid >3. http://silverlist.org/ >4. mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com >5. mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >6. mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com >7. http://www.avast.com/ >8. http://www.avast.com/ >9. http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ -- indi
Re: CS>was H2O2 mixed in starter, now funny taste
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 09:08:46AM -0700, Joseph Metz wrote: > > Changing the subject > Dee? Did you mention that your cs "tastes like silver" & thats a good > thing? My first few batches of home brew cs were tasteless, the more > cavalier & less diligent I became in making it, the more taste occurred. > Does everyones CS have "taste like silver?" Is that normal? Does that > indicate high pm? Or high particle size? Any opinions? > Mine tastes like silver. > > > Changing the subject > Q: What did the cannibals say when they were eating the comedian? > > A: Does this taste funny to you? > ROFL! -- indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Silver for cut finger?
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 10:40:49AM -0400, Marshall Dudley wrote: > Smitty wrote: >> >> Don't they use super glue in OR ? >> > > Yes, they do, but it is special, has a special label and cost 100 times > as much or so from what I have heard.. > I think liability insurance is probably the real reason behind that. If they didn't warn you not to use the OTC stuff for that, they wouldn't be able to sell it for $1.99. -- indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Steps to take to avoid forced flu vaccination
Hi Kathryn, On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 10:31:48AM -0500, Clayton Family wrote: > > To opt out you just need to fill out a form that says you object to it, > and sign it in front of a notary, then turn it in. > Yes, though some states do try to push vax via public schools, there is usually an opt-out clause. And of course, there is no law that requires children to attend *public* schools. > > I also do not agree with the lines of thought expressed by the link- no > one in their right mind would sign such a document no matter what their > belief. The document is non sensical and illogical. > I agree, it reads like a bad joke. But a surprising number of people display little capacity for critical thinking and are easily swayed by such paranoid talk. -- indi "Fear of govt regulation plays right into the hands of big corporate interests -- and regulation is the only thing that keeps them from owning us outright." -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Steps to take to avoid forced flu vaccination
Well, if "they" show up with restrants and hypodermic needles you can say "I told you so". But I wouldn't hold my breath. -- indi On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 02:57:24PM +0930, Hanneke wrote: > No Indi... that's the reasons attached to the first series of videos I > provided a while back... > people completely missed the point of the message in that video. > The flu is with us, everywhere, and we all know it is no worse than any > other year (if not milder).. > > The response was that we needed to look at what to do when we get the > flu. I think that's pretty much been addressed. What wasn't addressed > is the issue brought up in the videos" for all people , worldwide; to > stand up against this vaccination which by all accounts is useless to > fight the flu but dangerous enough to cause many more health problems. > > Your response is a typical Indi response, sorry to say, and by all > means, respond to this once again if you have trouble letting this go > without having the last word. > > For everyone else: forced flu vaccinations is a real plan. > > At 02:46 PM 7/08/2009, you wrote: > >> Oh sorry -- it's late, and I guess my eyes saw "Australia" rather than >> "Austria". Gonna have to stand by my POV though. And you know, the first >> thing you said was "This is NOT a fear-mongering email". Guess what? That's >> a classic giveaway. It means you know it *is* a fear-mongering email. >> Psych 101... >> >> -- >> indi >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 02:18:00PM +0930, Hanneke wrote: >> > btw... this lady Jane Burgermeister is from Austria, about 16000 miles >> > from Australia. >> > >> > At 02:13 PM 7/08/2009, you wrote: >> >> Sorry to burst your bubble Indi .. it appears you are not quite up to >> >> where things are leading in USA... >> >> this is a world wide threat.. not the flu but the forced vaccination part. >> >> >> >> At 01:41 PM 7/08/2009, you wrote: >> >>> Here in the US we don't have forced flu vaccinations or martial law. >> >>> I didn't realize things were so out of control in Australia, or for >> >>> that matter that you live in Australia... >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> indi >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 01:22:13PM +0930, Hanneke wrote: >> >>> > http://www.thecrowhouse.com/janeburg.html#Avoid >> >>> > >> >>> > This is NOT a fear mongering email. Just be realistic and learn >> what to >> >>> > do to avoid the forced flu vaccination. >> >>> > >> >>> > We all know what to do when we get the flu and there are enough >> >>> > suggestions for anti virals available, here and on other lists. >> >>> > >> >>> > Dealing with martial law and forced vaccinations is a different matter. >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >> >>> >> >>> Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org >> >>> >> >>> To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >> >>> >> >>> Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >> >>> >> >>> The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... >> >>> >> >>> List maintainer: Mike Devour >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> --- >> >>> avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. >> >>> Virus Database (VPS): 090806-1, 06/08/2009 >> >>> Tested on: 7/08/2009 2:11:32 PM >> >>> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. >> >>> http://www.avast.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> >> avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. >> >> Virus Database (VPS): 090806-1, 06/08/2009 >> >> Tested on: 7/08/2009 2:13:37 PM >> >> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. >> >> http://www.avast.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> >> avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. >> >> Virus Database (VPS): 090806-1, 06/08/2009 >> >> Tested on: 7/08/2009 2:16:33 PM >> >> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. >> >> http://www.avast.com >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > --- >> > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. >> > Virus Database (VPS): 090806-1, 06/08/2009 >> > Tested on: 7/08/2009 2:18:00 PM >> > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. >> > http://www.avast.com >> > >> > >> > >> >> -- >> indi >> >> >> >> --- >> avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. >> Virus Database (VPS): 090806-1, 06/08/2009 >> Tested on: 7/08/2009 2:51:10 PM >> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. >> http://www.avast.com > > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 090806-1, 06/08/2009 > Tested on: 7/08/2009 2:57:25 PM > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > -- indi
Re: CS>Steps to take to avoid forced flu vaccination
Oh sorry -- it's late, and I guess my eyes saw "Australia" rather than "Austria". Gonna have to stand by my POV though. And you know, the first thing you said was "This is NOT a fear-mongering email". Guess what? That's a classic giveaway. It means you know it *is* a fear-mongering email. Psych 101... -- indi On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 02:18:00PM +0930, Hanneke wrote: > btw... this lady Jane Burgermeister is from Austria, about 16000 miles > from Australia. > > At 02:13 PM 7/08/2009, you wrote: >> Sorry to burst your bubble Indi .. it appears you are not quite up to >> where things are leading in USA... >> this is a world wide threat.. not the flu but the forced vaccination part. >> >> At 01:41 PM 7/08/2009, you wrote: >>> Here in the US we don't have forced flu vaccinations or martial law. >>> I didn't realize things were so out of control in Australia, or for >>> that matter that you live in Australia... >>> >>> >>> -- >>> indi >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 01:22:13PM +0930, Hanneke wrote: >>> > http://www.thecrowhouse.com/janeburg.html#Avoid >>> > >>> > This is NOT a fear mongering email. Just be realistic and learn what to >>> > do to avoid the forced flu vaccination. >>> > >>> > We all know what to do when we get the flu and there are enough >>> > suggestions for anti virals available, here and on other lists. >>> > >>> > Dealing with martial law and forced vaccinations is a different matter. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >>> >>> Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org >>> >>> To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >>> >>> Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >>> >>> The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... >>> >>> List maintainer: Mike Devour >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --- >>> avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. >>> Virus Database (VPS): 090806-1, 06/08/2009 >>> Tested on: 7/08/2009 2:11:32 PM >>> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. >>> http://www.avast.com >> >> >> >> --- >> avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. >> Virus Database (VPS): 090806-1, 06/08/2009 >> Tested on: 7/08/2009 2:13:37 PM >> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. >> http://www.avast.com >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. >> Virus Database (VPS): 090806-1, 06/08/2009 >> Tested on: 7/08/2009 2:16:33 PM >> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. >> http://www.avast.com >> >> > > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 090806-1, 06/08/2009 > Tested on: 7/08/2009 2:18:00 PM > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > -- indi
Re: CS>Gingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery
I never thought of that Neville, but it's an interesting point. Maybe I will separate the use of those two by a couple of hours from now on, just to be safe. Thanks, -- indi On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 02:39:02PM +1030, Neville Munn wrote: >H, just as a point of interest, has anyone considered what may occur >if administering baking soda in the mouth if one is also ingesting EIS? > >Whilst not willing to engage in any debate on the subject, I believe it's >something which could require further investigation. > >I'm in no way referring to you here of course, just something that I >thought I would toss in among the group for those who may have the >desire to take it further if they wish, which is entirely up to them >obviously. > >Like you, I smoke and drink quantities of coffee (white) also, but decided >to stop doing the teeth thing with baking soda as quick as I started after >I gave it some thought, but then I also ingest a quantity of EIS on a >daily basis which probably helped in that decision. > >N. > > >-- > >From: mugg...@cyberlink.bc.ca >To: silver-list@eskimo.com >Subject: RE: CS>Gingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery >Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 18:33:05 -0700 > >I get stains on my teeth as I smoke and drink lots of black coffee, and a >couple things I do is brush with baking soda and H2O2 and I have way more >baking soda and just a little bit of H2O2. And as strange as it sounds, >another thing that works is a dry rough wash cloth. > >Thora > >-- > >From: muk...@mail.bg [mailto:muk...@mail.bg] >Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 10:07 AM >To: silver-list@eskimo.com >Subject: CS>Gingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery >I also stopped periodontal disease by swishing CS following washing my >mouth after meals. Only some grey covering appeared on my teeth and >dentures. How can I remove it myself ? > >Simeon > >- >Powered by [1]Mail.BG No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.45/2286 - Release Date: 08/06/09 >18:17:00 > >-- > >Sell your car fast. [2]Need a new model in your life? > > References > >Visible links >1. http://mail.bg/ >2. > http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F866383&_t=758314219&_r=carpoint_tagline&_m=EXT -- indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Steps to take to avoid forced flu vaccination
Well, I guess I just don't share your belief system. But that site you linked is an Aussie one. -- indi On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 02:13:36PM +0930, Hanneke wrote: > Sorry to burst your bubble Indi .. it appears you are not quite up to > where things are leading in USA... > this is a world wide threat.. not the flu but the forced vaccination part. > > At 01:41 PM 7/08/2009, you wrote: >> Here in the US we don't have forced flu vaccinations or martial law. >> I didn't realize things were so out of control in Australia, or for >> that matter that you live in Australia... >> >> >> -- >> indi >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 01:22:13PM +0930, Hanneke wrote: >> > http://www.thecrowhouse.com/janeburg.html#Avoid >> > >> > This is NOT a fear mongering email. Just be realistic and learn what to >> > do to avoid the forced flu vaccination. >> > >> > We all know what to do when we get the flu and there are enough >> > suggestions for anti virals available, here and on other lists. >> > >> > Dealing with martial law and forced vaccinations is a different matter. >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> -- >> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >> >> Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org >> >> To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >> >> Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >> >> The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... >> >> List maintainer: Mike Devour >> >> >> >> >> --- >> avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. >> Virus Database (VPS): 090806-1, 06/08/2009 >> Tested on: 7/08/2009 2:11:32 PM >> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. >> http://www.avast.com > > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 090806-1, 06/08/2009 > Tested on: 7/08/2009 2:13:37 PM > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > -- indi
Re: CS>Steps to take to avoid forced flu vaccination
Here in the US we don't have forced flu vaccinations or martial law. I didn't realize things were so out of control in Australia, or for that matter that you live in Australia... -- indi On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 01:22:13PM +0930, Hanneke wrote: > http://www.thecrowhouse.com/janeburg.html#Avoid > > This is NOT a fear mongering email. Just be realistic and learn what to > do to avoid the forced flu vaccination. > > We all know what to do when we get the flu and there are enough > suggestions for anti virals available, here and on other lists. > > Dealing with martial law and forced vaccinations is a different matter. > > > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Project [non-linear dynamics] again?
Thanks, Malcolm. Maybe we should start a club for the chronically misunderstood. I'm tempted to blame our school systems and the mass media -- but then I think that like water, people seek their own level. ;) -- indi On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 12:36:57PM -0700, Malcolm wrote: > Hi Indi, > > Nicely put! > Also; "Period three implies chaos" > Another one of those obscure references, huh? > > Whatever diverts, > Malcolm > > On Wed, 2009-08-05 at 14:13 -0400, Indi wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 05:57:13AM -0400, Ode Coyote wrote: > > > > > > Everyone has an opinion, don't they. > > > > > > You could be attack proof and never need defend yourself. > > > > > > > Or you could just stop trying to obfuscate the fact that you were > > playing list cop when you accused someone of playing list cop (Oh > > no, have I created a recursive loop?). > > No-one's attacking you, just pointing out the obvious. > > :) > > > > Take Care, > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > -- indi
Re: CS>Gingival Grafting and Periodontal Surgery
I'm sure she will not lose all her teeth, they tried the same dirty trick on me a few years ago. Tell her to eat lots of green, leafy veggies, use a waterpik (I hadn't even discovered CS yet and it did wonders for me), do *not* use alcohol-based mouthwashes or flouride toothpastes, and just be diligent about cleaning the teeth. A lot of the dental problems people have actually come from using flouride toothpaste and alcoholic mouthwashes. Tom's of Maine makes a witch hazel mouthwash which is really good stuff. Brushing with hydrogen peroxide and baking soda rather than a major brand toothpaste is also a good idea, and I'm sure that using CS also is a big help in dealing with the bacteria. Also, I found a non-flouride, remineralizing toothpaste called Oravive which seems to be very good stuff. They have it on Amazon. And alfalfa supplements are supposed to be quite good for helping the skeletal system to regenerate lost bone tissue. HTH, -- indi On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 10:53:55AM -0700, Sam L. wrote: >Hi Sol >Her dentist did some x-rays and stated she was losing bone under the gum >line or root line. She is really being pushed into this as if she doesnt >have this done she will lose all her teeth, fear tatic. >Sam L. >On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 9:23 AM, sol <[1]sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com> wrote: > > I seem to have missed the point of this surgery---what is the problem it > is being done to treat? > thanks, > sol > >On Aug 5, 2009, at 12:44 AM, Sam L. wrote: > > Does anyone know about this surgery or has had it done. > My sister is scheduled for this surgery and Im telling her that is > the last option. I think swissing CS and zapping would do more or at > least give it a chance, its a 4 hour surgery. > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: [2]http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: [3]silver-l...@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: [4]silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <[5]mdev...@eskimo.com> > > >-- >A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to >take >everything you have. > > References > >Visible links >1. mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com >2. http://silverlist.org/ >3. mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com >4. mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >5. mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- indi
Re: CS>Project [censored] again?
On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 05:57:13AM -0400, Ode Coyote wrote: > > Everyone has an opinion, don't they. > > You could be attack proof and never need defend yourself. > Or you could just stop trying to obfuscate the fact that you were playing list cop when you accused someone of playing list cop (Oh no, have I created a recursive loop?). No-one's attacking you, just pointing out the obvious. :) Take Care, -- indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>FOE asking to ban CS products or regulate as drugs
How can I believe anything I read on that site; they feature "real footage of starships", and claim to have the inside scoop on "the laws of creation and the laws of God"? This is just another attack on an environmentalist organization. If you actually want to know what FOE has to say, go to http://www.foe.org/ , not to some 3rd party nutjob extremist site. -- indi On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 11:29:09PM +0930, Hanneke wrote: >July 31, 2009 > >*Ban All Colloidal Silver Products, or Regulate Them as Drugs,* says >environmental group Friends of the Earth > >Promises made by Friends of the Earth (FOE) not to pursue a ban on >over-the-counter colloidal silver products turn out to be bald-faced lies; >newly issued FOE position paper reveals their true intentions to have >colloidal silver banned and regulated as a drug* > >*We believe that all over-the-counter colloidal silver > >products should be immediately withdrawn from the market and their sale >should be banned (unless approved as a drug by the appropriate regulatory >agency). > >-- Friends of the Earth (FOE), June 2009 report *Nano and Biocidal >Silver,* pg. 13 >For Full article > > > [1]http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/health/holistic_alternative_medicine/news.php?q=1249420035 > >-- > >[2]avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > >Virus Database (VPS): 090804-1, 04/08/2009 >Tested on: 5/08/2009 11:29:10 PM >avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. > > References > >Visible links >1. > http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/health/holistic_alternative_medicine/news.php?q=1249420035 >2. http://www.avast.com/ -- indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>[OT[ Ode Magazine
Darn, forgot the link: http://www.odemagazine.com/ -- indi On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 08:02:17PM -0400, Indi wrote: > There's a new magazine named after Ode. > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>[OT[ Ode Magazine
There's a new magazine named after Ode. -- indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Project [censored] again?
On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 02:59:45PM -0500, Ruth Bertella wrote: Pot. Kettle. Black. :) -- indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>(LL) On line condolences to Wayne's family
Thanks much for posting that, Lois. -- indi On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 03:12:42PM -0400, zzekel...@aol.com wrote: >I knew funeral homes near here had places on their sites to send messages >of condolence . I found Wayne's obit. & the place to send a messages >[1]Chancellor Funeral Home Obituary I did & it made me feel like I was >writing to him... Lois > >-- > > References > >Visible links >1. http://www.chancellorfuneralhome.com/showobit.php?seqnum=462 -- indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Project [censored] again?
Sorry, I just get annoyed when people preach the very things they themselves need to learn at others. I find that kind of lack of self-awareness frustrating. Just want to yell "WAKE UP" sometimes, LOL. But of course it doesn't help, people won't learn what they don't want to know... -- indi On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 07:19:53PM +0100, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: > I don't agree. There seems no grounds for apologies either way. Just > people being people - not perfect, but interesting because of that fact. > dee > >> fact. >>> I don't care about rules OR enforcement OR what you or anyone posts. >>> >> >> If you didn't care you wouldn't have said anything in the first place, >> much less be blathering on about it days later. >> Just take responsibility for your words already! >> A sensible, responsible person would have simply apologized for the >> misunderstanding, rather than blow so much hot air trying to defend >> the ego. >> >> The more you go on the more foolish you look, Ode. >> >> HTH, >> -- >> indi >> >> >> >> >> -- > -- indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Notice from Wayne's son
Thank you so much for posting this, Marshall. -- indi On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 12:09:37PM -0400, Marshall Dudley wrote: > I received this from Wayne's son. We will surely miss him. > > Marshall > From: Wendell > Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:44:14 -0500 > X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.0.3.0 > To: marj...@wildblue.net > Cc: k...@valornet.com > Subject: Wayne Fugitt > > Hi Marjie and Kenneth and Marshall, > > I know this isn't the best way to tell you all, but we lost my dad this > afternoon. > > He left us peacefully sitting at the computer with his hand on the mouse > sometime around 4:00 pm. > > If you can maybe let any of the lists, that you think may need to know, > what has happened. > > The visitation will be Monday evening and the funeral sometime on Tuesday. > > the services will be held at the > > Chancellor Funeral Home at 7225 Siwell Road, Byram MS 39272 > 601.372.2955 > > I will try to keep in touch, the next few days / weeks will be busy. > > We will miss him. > > > Thanks > > Wendell Fugitt > > 601.878.5757 > > > > > > > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Project [censored] again?
Ode said: > What you INITIALLY DID was attempt enforce a rule with the claim that you > knew what the rules were and break another in that attempt, demonstrating > that you didn't know what the rules were...just a simple logical fact. > I don't care about rules OR enforcement OR what you or anyone posts. > If you didn't care you wouldn't have said anything in the first place, much less be blathering on about it days later. Just take responsibility for your words already! A sensible, responsible person would have simply apologized for the misunderstanding, rather than blow so much hot air trying to defend the ego. The more you go on the more foolish you look, Ode. HTH, -- indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>using microwave parts
There are three ways I know of to do HVAC, actually. The arc method is the one most likely to produce undesirable nitrogen-based compounds, so I haven't tried it. Then there is the immersion method (both electrodes fully immersed), which according to Ol' Bob Berger is limited to producing maybe 5 or so ppm. Finally there's the cone method, in which one electrode is fully immersed and the other is placed just close enough to the surface of the water to raise it into a "cone" which envelopes the electrode when power is applied to the circuit. The cone method produces the most best result IMO, and is good for around 20 ppm, with more particulate content than is possible with LVDC. But you have to check on it every couple of hours, or as the water evaporates the cone will become an arc. Also the lid (I use a glass lid) has to be dried periodically, or you can get a corona discharge (diffuse version of arcing which is harder to detect). Personally, I use and recommend the HVAC cone method. But it does take caution and vigilance, so may not be for everyone. As for the ideal electrode sizes, I'm sure others here would know more about it than I. I seem to have hit on a combination that works and haven't experimented much with it. -- indi On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 07:04:52PM -0500, Dan Nave wrote: > Aren't there two different approaches to the high voltage CS making? > > One uses an arc, producing more colloidal particles, and one uses the > electrodes further apart to produce ionic CS quickly with the high > voltage potential. > > Which one are you referring to? > > Dan > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Marshall Dudley > wrote: > > For the high voltage generation of CS, you use very small electrodes, not > > large ones. You use large ones for low voltage CS. The trick it to get the > > high density of silver ions away from the electrode before they can > > aggregate sufficiently. For low voltage that is done by Browning movement > > and stirring, thus the very limited 1 mA per square inch. For high voltage > > systems, you want a huge gradient near the electrode, so that the ions are > > sucked away from the electrode by the electric field. I am not sure what > > size you would want for 500 volts, but for 10,000 volts I found that the > > electrodes should be about .03 square inch each. With the system I was > > using with 100 mA of current, that gave a density of about 3 amps per square > > inch. I am not sure 450 volts is enough to provide the necessary gradient > > to prevent larger particle size. The way I kept the electrode that small > > was to feed some 14 gauge silver wire into glass tubes, and only allow about > > 1/8 inch to protrude from the end under the water. Then I mounted it so > > that the tip of the two electrodes were about 1 inch apart. You may find > > that keeping it cool is a problem because of the high power. > > > > Marshall > > > > Pierre Genton wrote: > >> > >> Thanks for the warning about the cap. I made sure I discharged that > >> before going into the electronics too far. > >> > >> Yes, I heard that the microwave electronics produced pulsed DC. > >> At this stage I am looking for evidence of the system being able to > >> produce small enough particles before I have a large electrode fabricated > >> just for the purpose. Just seems I couldn't make a big enough electrode > >> practically to be able to make small particles but I don't really know. > >> > >> Boy sure would be good to make a fine quality CS this way since it is so > >> fast at a quart under 2 minutes . However safety and quality are the main > >> requirements for any system and product. > >> > >> Thanks for the tips and any other comments on this or other systems are > >> welcomed. > >> > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>news RE: Wayne Fugitt
Very true, Gail. Does anyone know when Fugitt.com might expire? I've archived the entire site, and would like to make sure all the info he compiled online without interruption. Maybe call it "Truibute to Wayne Fugitt" or something like that; I will host it if need be. Contributions welcome, BTW. Thanks, -- indi On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 07:29:15PM -0400, Gail Rice wrote: >So true. >Wayne was interested in a lot of things and his curiosity wasn't idle. He >informed himself about many things and then was so generous to share his >insights and opinions with others. >For our newer members, here is a link to his website - >[1]http://www.fugitt.com/ Don't miss his colliodal silver link on the left >under "odds & ends." >and here is a link to his mini archive of the silver list - >[2]http://www.fugitt.com/cs_notes/ >Thanks, Wayne. >Gail Rice > >On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Tel Tofflemire <[3]telt...@yahoo.com> >wrote: > > Wayne was one of the good guys on this list, > He gave more than he took. > I will miss his wit, & humor and all the good advice. > Tel Tofflemire > Dewey, AZ. 86327 > > References > >Visible links >1. http://www.fugitt.com/ >2. http://www.fugitt.com/cs_notes/ >3. mailto:telt...@yahoo.com -- indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Water
I use a half-pint of the previous batch for one new gallon. The reason is that by increasing the conductivity of the water it allows the electroisolation to happen faster. Normally with distilled water there's quite a long lag at the beginning of the process, as the water itself has no real conductivity. It's minerals in the water that conduct electricity. Of course, even double-distilled water is not *absolutely* pure -- the universe being strictly a relative manifestation and all, we can't get absolute anything -- or so the theory goes; so far it has yet to be disproven AFAIK. -- indi On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 01:38:11PM -0700, jr orrilia wrote: >Thanks Indi. When you wrote "I just use some of my previous batch of CS >for "starter", works like a charm.', do you mean a few drops or ounces? I >will certainly try that. What does this do when you use this procedure. >Thanks again for the info Orrilia > >-- > >From: Indi >To: silver-list@eskimo.com >Sent: Saturday, August 1, 2009 3:00:55 PM >Subject: Re: CS>Water >Distilled water is a must, otherwise you run the risk of creating >undesirable compounds from the mineral content of the water reacting with >the silver. If you have a hard time obtaining it locally perhaps it would >be >work your while to buy a distiller. I know there are others on the list >who >use them... > >Never heard of that honey trick, maybe one of the more knowledgeable >people >on the list can answer that. I just use some of my previous batch of CS >for "starter", works like a charm. > >-- >indi > >On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 11:53:08AM -0700, jr orrilia wrote: >>Hi. I don't know if this was covered before (if it was sorry), but >is it >>OK to use filtered (charcoal) water or natural spring water when >making >>CS? I am starting to have a hard time buying distilled water in >stores. >>Also, has anyone ever heard of adding a drop of honey when making CS? > I >>read somewhere that is shortens the time to making CS. I own a Sota >>colloidal maker which make 5-10 ppm. Thanks for the help. Orrilia >> >> >-- >> >> >-- >> >>Looking for the perfect gift? [1]Give the gift of Flickr! >> >> References >> >>Visible links >>1. [1]http://www.flickr.com/gift/ > >-- >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: [2]http://silverlist.org > >To post, address your message to: [3]silver-l...@eskimo.com > >Address Off-Topic messages to: [4]silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > >The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > >List maintainer: Mike Devour <[5]mdev...@eskimo.com> > > >-- > >Make your browsing faster, safer, and easier with the new Internet >Explorer� 8. Optimized for Yahoo! [6]Get it Now for Free! > > References > >Visible links >1. http://www.flickr.com/gift/ >2. http://silverlist.org/ >3. mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com >4. mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >5. mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com >6. http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/
Re: CS>Water
Distilled water is a must, otherwise you run the risk of creating undesirable compounds from the mineral content of the water reacting with the silver. If you have a hard time obtaining it locally perhaps it would be work your while to buy a distiller. I know there are others on the list who use them... Never heard of that honey trick, maybe one of the more knowledgeable people on the list can answer that. I just use some of my previous batch of CS for "starter", works like a charm. -- indi On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 11:53:08AM -0700, jr orrilia wrote: >Hi. I don't know if this was covered before (if it was sorry), but is it >OK to use filtered (charcoal) water or natural spring water when making >CS? I am starting to have a hard time buying distilled water in stores. >Also, has anyone ever heard of adding a drop of honey when making CS? I >read somewhere that is shortens the time to making CS. I own a Sota >colloidal maker which make 5-10 ppm. Thanks for the help. Orrilia > >-- > >-- > >Looking for the perfect gift? [1]Give the gift of Flickr! > > References > >Visible links >1. http://www.flickr.com/gift/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Project [censored] again?
I wouldn't take it personally. Compulsive behavior can be hard to take, but it's hardest on the afflicted. -- indi On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 12:12:31PM -0500, Norton, Steve wrote: >"list tyrant" > >I was only responding to a political post and hoping to avert a post war >and you feel the need to attack me personally? > >As you say: >"It's only interesting. > Go right ahead and have at it." > > - Steve N > >- Original Message - >From: Ode Coyote >To: silver-list@eskimo.com >Sent: Sat Aug 01 06:58:58 2009 >Subject: Re: CS>Project [censored] again? > > No, that would be your direct assumption, your meanings and desire to >control by proxy, placed upon my words...the pointed finger ignoring it's >own hand. >I merely pointed out a logical and factual conflict [ One who claims to >know the rules to justify playing cop, breaks another in the process.] >with >no suggestion as to what should be done about it, or that anything even >should be done. >That's entirely up to the list tyrant. > Anything beyond that was clearly filled in. > >I don't care one iota, one way or the other, get it? >I don't even care that, in your attempt to stick MY neck out to replace >"his" [ Which he wisely pulled back in], you stretched yours. > >It's only interesting. > Go right ahead and have at it. > >Ode > >At 01:44 PM 7/31/2009 -0400, you wrote: >>On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 05:30:26AM -0400, Ode Coyote wrote: >> > >> > >> > Did I say someone shouldn't say or post something...anything..ever? >> > >> >>Indirectly, yes. >> >>-- >>indi >> >> >>-- >>The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >> >>Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: [1]http://silverlist.org >> >>To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >> >>Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >> >>The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... >> >>List maintainer: Mike Devour >> > > References > >Visible links >1. http://silverlist.org/
Re: CS>Project [censored] again?
On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 07:58:58AM -0400, Ode Coyote wrote: > > I don't care one iota, one way or the other, get it? > Yes, that comes across quite clearly. :D -- indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Fw: [Ntl_news] Wayne Fugitt
He will be sorely missed, here and no doubt everywhere he was known. Wayne, may your journey into eternity be filled with love and adventure. Blessings Always, -- indi On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 06:55:45PM -0700, Deborah Gerard wrote: >--- On Fri, 7/31/09, marj...@wildblue.net wrote: > > From: marj...@wildblue.net > Subject: [Ntl_news] Wayne Fugitt > To: ntl_n...@tcbunch.com > Date: Friday, July 31, 2009, 9:52 PM > > > It is with deep regret that I inform everyone of the passing this > morning of Mr Wayne Fugitt. He passed away sitting at his computer. > He was my friend and will be missed. > Truman McManus > -Inline Attachment Follows- > > ___ > Ntl_news mailing list > [1]ntl_n...@tcbunch.com > [2]http://tcbunch.com/mailman/listinfo/ntl_news_tcbunch.com > Any opinions, references, and Links cited are for information only, and > are not intended to diagnose or prescribe. For your specific diagnosis > and treatment, consult your doctor or health care provider. > > References > >Visible links >1. http://us.mc566.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ntl_n...@tcbunch.com >2. http://tcbunch.com/mailman/listinfo/ntl_news_tcbunch.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Project [censored] again?
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 05:30:26AM -0400, Ode Coyote wrote: > > > Did I say someone shouldn't say or post something...anything..ever? > Indirectly, yes. -- indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>microwave CS
I use the HVAC cone method myself, with an extremely crude setup but it works quite well. I just use a neon sign transformer which is rated for 12.5KV AC at 300 milliamps (though in fact the average output is more like 4.8KV), a one gallon glass jar with a glass lid (from the container store online), and 14ga . silver wire for electrodes. I use about a half-pint of my previous batch as starter and top the gallon jar off with distilled water. The transformer is plugged into a variac, so I can power it up slowly for safety. The trickiest part is to guard against arcing, but I've gotten pretty good at adjusting the electrodes every couple of hours to maintain the cone. The bottom electrode is about two feet long, and coiled at the bottom of the jar. This setup makes a gallon of good, clear CS in 20-24 hours. I don't have much faith in "PPM meters" or "EC meters", and calculation via Faraday's law is iffy unless you have perfectly controlled and tightly monitored current so I don't bother with those. I planned to early on, but then found this setup works fine with a little care and attention. Besides, I can tell what good CS tastes like (tastes like silver, of course) and that works fine for me. I found some helpful information at http://www.silvermedicine.org/bob-berger-silver.html and at http://fugitt.com/cs_notes/ HTH, -- indi On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:42:15AM +0700, Pierre Genton wrote: >Hi all- > >Thanks for your comments on using the microwave components. I have tried a >few batches using the microwave electronics and fear I am ending up with >too large of particles. Even though I use only small electrodes now(wire) >I cannot imagine getting the electrodes big enough to reduce the current >density. I measured approx 300 ma of current. I would need an� electrode >about 100 times bigger than the one I now use. any suggestions ? > >�Has anyone here used just the microwave transformer alone for making HVAC >CS? > >Yesterday just for fun I tried a batch using 240 VAC . After some 20 hrs I >have a crystal clear CS at about� 8ppm. I have no idea what the quality is >but I am betting the particles are really tiny. The red laser pen shows a >fairly light beam through the solution. > >�Anybody have any comments on HVAC� and their favorite ways of making it ? > >thanks >� -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Tea Party Patriots Health Care Freedom To Do List for This Week
Don't believe those nasty rumors. ;) -- indi On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 04:54:38PM -0400, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: > NOo Not YOUR biscuits... > Nothing actually DEADLY > > Chuck > If the economy can only get better or worse, why aren't economists > right half the time? > > > On 7/30/2009 2:59:13 PM, Indi (indi.sha...@gmail.com) wrote: > > I'll bring the biscuits; we can have a full-fledged food fight! > > > > -- > > indi > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.36/2272 - Release Date: 07/30/09 > 05:58:00 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Tea Party Patriots Health Care Freedom To Do List for This Week
I'll bring the biscuits; we can have a full-fledged food fight! -- indi aka The Beelzebub Trigger On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 01:52:53PM -0500, Clayton Family wrote: > Oh Goody- a Tea Party fight! > > > On Jul 30, 2009, at 8:35 AM, Ode Coyote wrote: > >> >> >> You don't know the rules, you aren't the list cop. >> Ode >> >> >> At 07:53 PM 7/29/2009 -0500, you wrote: >> >>> You know the rules. This does NOT belong on this list. >>> - Steve N >> > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>Gel Powder
Cows do it all the time. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/emulsion No idea what to use to create an emulsion of essential oil and CS though... -- indi On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 12:10:36PM -0500, Dan Nave wrote: > I didn't think you could mix oil and water, but, as you say, with God, > all things are possible... > > Dan > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Scotty wrote: > > What are you folks using as a CS and essential oil binder? > > > > Scott <>< > > "With God, all things are possible." - Mark 10:27 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>Project [censored] again?
Oh, so you must think you're the list cop then? :) I know the rules too, but frankly when the [characterization censored] posts start up I'm always happy to see anyone speak up against them. Nips it in the bud, so to speak. -- indi "Fusisitance is retile. Your ass will be laminated." -- Dyslexia of Borg On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 09:35:23AM -0400, Ode Coyote wrote: > > > You don't know the rules, you aren't the list cop. > Ode > > > At 07:53 PM 7/29/2009 -0500, you wrote: > >> You know the rules. This does NOT belong on this list. >> - Steve N > > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Kidney Stones...Prevention???
I went through a dreadful phase of amazingly prolific production of kidney stones, and it appears to have been completely solved by simply drinking about four ounces of apple cider vinegar (Bragg's is the good stuff) with four ounces of water every morning. Since the kidney pain stopped, I do it just twice a week, and that seems sufficient so far. HTH, -- indi On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 12:17:17PM -0700, Craig Chamberlin wrote: > Hi All, > > A friend of mine is 65 and suffering from kidney stones. Two questions: > > 1) Is there a way of preventing their formation. > > 2) Can the existing ones be dissolved. > > Thank you, > > Craig > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > -- indi
Re: CS>Natural Soap
I've used that soap in the past, but this one item in their online FAQ made me uneasy: "What kind of fragrance do you use in your soap? Kirk's fragrance is a special blend of mostly natural and some synthetic materials. Synthetic materials have been tested for product safety by manufacturer and approved by FDA."* *From http://www.kirksnatural.com/faqs.html -- indi On Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 07:52:22AM -0700, sms wrote: >Now this is a great natural soap. Take a look around the site and click on >the various other links. I think you might like these products. > >[1]http://www.kirksnatural.com/barsoap.html >Sasha > >---Original Message--- > >From: [2]Annie B Smythe >Date: 7/5/2009 10:26:13 AM >To: [3]silver-l...@eskimo.com >Subject: Re: CS>Vit. D 3 'hype' > >Sodium Laurel Sulfate, hmmm, I know it can penetrate the scalp if it's in >a shampoo, and it can effect vision. But of all the things I've read about >it, I've never read about it effecting Vit D manufactured in the skin. Not >that that is impossible, if it penetrates the skin and combines with other >things somehow..But I haven't done enough reading on it to say one way or >the other. But Malcom's explanation sounds reasonable. ;> If I do some >digging and find out something different I'll eat some crow I reckon, LOL. > >Annie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> Spark plug protocol
Thanks Harold, I do have a six volt lantern battery godzilla but hadn't thought to use it the "enhanced" way you suggest. Worth a try, I'm sure. I didn't post my experiment with the spark plug trick to microelectricitygermkiller because I know bg doesn't like to talk about anything but low voltage. Probably he worries about liability, and I can't say I blame him... On Sun, Jul 05, 2009 at 04:23:52PM -0700, Harold MacDonald wrote: > I trick I would try is this; > Get a 6 ,or 9 volt battery, two copper wires,insulation stripped off each > end about 1 inch except one end enough to hold in one hand, wetted with > CS or salty water. > Connect the other end of that wire to the negative post - sign. > Scotch tape one end of the other wire to the spider bite site wetting > same site with CS or salty water. > With the other hand hold the loose wire near the positive post + > sign,then flick the wire across the + sign creating a mild spark. > Repeat this rapidly for a time. > When this spark is created a momentary higher voltage is created. > You may not see a spark but if you have a small radio,tune it to a local > station and when you flick the wire across the battery a bit of static > should be heard. > Instead of holding one wire in your hand,tape that end to your skin about > two inches away from the bite.Try the hand held way first to see if you > are affected by any electical shock. > Harold > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > -- indi
Re: CS>The spark plug protocol
Thanks Malcolm, I do have a CS compress on it right now. I'm alternating between room temp CS and hot epsom sat water compresses. The pain is greatly reduced, and maybe I'll get some sleep tonight without resorting to benedryl as I've been doing this past week... On Sun, Jul 05, 2009 at 03:36:07PM -0700, Malcolm wrote: > Hey Indi, Good for you! I hope that neutralized the toxin, I expect so > but a repeat might be useful if some of the neurotoxin somehow escaped > reformation. Glad I'm not the only dane-bramaged 'round these parts! > Don't forget to apply your CS to help the damage already done to heal. > Dr. Becker would gently bandage with CS soaked material covered with > waterproof material, check and "debride" once a day -ouch! Later used > "Silverlon" bandages, which have become one of the standards for 2nd and > 3rd degree burns; same idea though, promotes deep structure healing and > minimizes scarring - that can be important to regaining full movement. > Adhesions are a real pain, b'lieve me! > > http://www.silverlon.com/ > > If you haven't yet, see if you can find a copy of The Body Electric by > Dr. Robert O. Becker. > > Might hold off on DMSO and such 'til things have stabilized and the > surface has closed and the wound stopped draining. > > Take care, > M. > > On Sun, 2009-07-05 at 20:59 +, Indi wrote: > > Ok, so I finally convinced a friend that she wasn't assisting me in > > committing suicide by cranking the tractor while I held the spark plug > > wire to the bite on my left thigh. Taking Malcolm's advice, I took my > > left shoe off and stood on the ground (which is wet, because it rained > > earlier). The spark wouldn't quite get me that way, so I took some copper > > bell wire and bent it so it was wedged in the electrode and wrapped the rest > > around my thigh. My friend cranked the tractor, and I got zapped. It didn't > > really hurt much. The burning sensation in the bite area was noticeably > > reduced within a minute. It's been less than 10 minutes since I did this, > > hopefully now it will heal faster than it has been... > > > > Cheers, > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > -- indi
Re: CS>The spark plug protocol
Well, over the years I've done enough automotive repair work to have been zapped a few times by "leaky" ignition cables. It's not very painful or particularly dangerous, due to the extremely low amperage used. It just stings a bit -- nothing compared to the pain I've endured this past week from that bite. It has helped with the pain quite a bit, too. -- indi On Sun, Jul 05, 2009 at 04:18:24PM -0500, Norton, Steve wrote: >Holy cow! If I am ever am considering a semi-suicidal protocol I will be >sure to suggest it to you first :-) > > - Steve N > > - Original Message - >From: Indi >To: silver-list@eskimo.com >Sent: Sun Jul 05 15:59:00 2009 >Subject: CS>The spark plug protocol > >Ok, so I finally convinced a friend that she wasn't assisting me in >committing suicide by cranking the tractor while I held the spark plug >wire to the bite on my left thigh. Taking Malcolm's advice, I took my >left shoe off and stood on the ground (which is wet, because it rained >earlier). The spark wouldn't quite get me that way, so I took some copper >bell wire and bent it so it was wedged in the electrode and wrapped the >rest >around my thigh. My friend cranked the tractor, and I got zapped. It >didn't >really hurt much. The burning sensation in the bite area was noticeably >reduced within a minute. It's been less than 10 minutes since I did this, >hopefully now it will heal faster than it has been... > >Cheers, >-- >indi > >-- >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: [1]http://silverlist.org > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > >The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > References > >Visible links >1. http://silverlist.org/ -- indi
CS>The spark plug protocol
Ok, so I finally convinced a friend that she wasn't assisting me in committing suicide by cranking the tractor while I held the spark plug wire to the bite on my left thigh. Taking Malcolm's advice, I took my left shoe off and stood on the ground (which is wet, because it rained earlier). The spark wouldn't quite get me that way, so I took some copper bell wire and bent it so it was wedged in the electrode and wrapped the rest around my thigh. My friend cranked the tractor, and I got zapped. It didn't really hurt much. The burning sensation in the bite area was noticeably reduced within a minute. It's been less than 10 minutes since I did this, hopefully now it will heal faster than it has been... Cheers, -- indi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Vit. D 3 'hype'
Why both, of course. That's why I'm doubly immune. :D -- indi On Sun, Jul 05, 2009 at 01:46:57PM -0700, Terry wrote: > Which group do you think you're in? > > -Original Message- > From: Indi [mailto:indi.sha...@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 1:04 PM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>Vit. D 3 'hype' > > > It's the gubmint mind-control, I tell you. > Doesn't work on the very bright or the brain-damaged. > ;) > > -- > indi > > Sarah Palin's 15 minutes are over, just as I predicted. > > > > > On Sun, Jul 05, 2009 at 07:27:04PM +0100, Dee Fitzpatrick wrote: > >You know that, and I know that, Indi, but many people out there haven't > a > >clue! The amount of people I have met who have no idea what is in > >'products' as they are now called. Especially the ones termed > 'natural' > >or organic. Even products designed for babies have it in. Probably > why > >so many children suffer from eczema and asthma I suppose. Dee > > > >---Original Message--- > > > >From: [1]Indi > >Date: 07/05/09 18:54:23 > >To: [2]silver-l...@eskimo.com > >Subject: Re: CS>Vit. D 3 'hype' > > > >Anyway, it's not that hard to use soaps without SLS. > >Bronner's soap is the best, IMO. > > > >-- > >indi > > > > > > References > > > >Visible links > >1. mailto:indi.sha...@gmail.com > >2. mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>Vit. D 3 'hype'
It's the gubmint mind-control, I tell you. Doesn't work on the very bright or the brain-damaged. ;) -- indi Sarah Palin's 15 minutes are over, just as I predicted. On Sun, Jul 05, 2009 at 07:27:04PM +0100, Dee Fitzpatrick wrote: >You know that, and I know that, Indi, but many people out there haven't a >clue! The amount of people I have met who have no idea what is in >'products' as they are now called. Especially the ones termed 'natural' >or organic. Even products designed for babies have it in. Probably why >so many children suffer from eczema and asthma I suppose. Dee > >---Original Message--- > >From: [1]Indi >Date: 07/05/09 18:54:23 >To: [2]silver-l...@eskimo.com >Subject: Re: CS>Vit. D 3 'hype' > >Anyway, it's not that hard to use soaps without SLS. >Bronner's soap is the best, IMO. > >-- >indi > > > References > >Visible links >1. mailto:indi.sha...@gmail.com >2. mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Vit. D 3 'hype'
Anyway, it's not that hard to use soaps without SLS. Bronner's soap is the best, IMO. -- indi On Sun, Jul 05, 2009 at 10:05:26AM -0700, Malcolm wrote: > Dee, I already know what 'Mercola' says. IMNSHO, Mercola's site thrives > on a contrarian POV. Perhaps those of us who are "depleted" in the vit > D department have other causes to look for, such as insufficient > exposure to sunlight, too much clothing when outdoors, wrong time of > day, Vits A, D, calcium and magnesium-poor diet, etc. (Vegetarians are > particularly susceptible to the deficiency because plant derived D is > not the kind we use; even animal fats are likely to be deficient if the > animals were raised in confinement with inadequate exposure to sun.) > Whatever sodium laurel sulfate may do, I doubt it extracts cholesterol > from the inner layers of the skin, but who knows? This may become the > new thinning and cardio protocol for the 21st century; just wash your > HDL's away. > > The amount of time necessary for the body to absorb the vit D precursors > generated by exposure to sun is 30 to 60 minutes, so unless you run > inside to shower right away, you're probably ok even for the cholesterol > containing skin oils from the sebaceous glands (and there are more > cholesterols present than those found in the sebum. BTW, the time > required for the markers to show up in the blood is about 12 to 24 hours > but the D is already bound to its delivery protein in about half an > hour. > > The times of day in which the UV-B from the sun is significantly present > are 10 to 2. It's the UV-B that does the conversion of cholesterol. > > Tha'sall > > On Sun, 2009-07-05 at 14:33 +0100, Dee Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Well according to Mercola, it *does* wash off, which would explain why > > we are depleted nowadays (also people using sunscreens of course). In > > the old days, people didn't shower every day, it used to be bath days > > once a week if you were lucky enough to have a bath, and people washed > > in just soap. Not these SLS laden products most use now. Dee > > > > ---Original Message--- > > > > From: Malcolm > > Date: 04/07/2009 21:27:09 > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Subject: Re: CS>Vit. D 3 'hype' > > > > This has been discussed in the recent past, and if my memory serves me > > (always wonder about that): > > > > 1) The oil soluble vitamins are not 'washed out' by water like C and > > B's > > are; so they remain stored and can achieve toxic levels. My personal > > experience has been that A and E (D-alpha tocopherol) taken to excess > > (my excess) make me feel like I did the wrong thing, ucky. So far vit > > D > > hasn't given me this reaction @ 2,000 IU per day for a coupla weeks > > plus. > > > > 2)Vit D is made by exposure of cholesterols, in our skin, to sun, or > > certain energy levels of light but the formation takes place under a > > few > > layers of the epidermis, and thus doesn't wash off under normal > > bathing > > any more than the cholesterols do. I dunno what sunscreens do to or > > for > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>Vit. D 3 'hype'
Thanks, Dee, some interesting reading there for sure. Not quite ready to believe that vitamin D can be washed off the skin, but they do seem to make a pretty good case for supplementing it anyway. -- indi On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 07:18:13PM +0100, Dee Fitzpatrick wrote: >Hi Indi I just looked up that link [1]www.vitamindcouncil.com and found >info there, but I have looked up various site (can't remember which of >course) and they keep saying the same thing as Mercola. He does seem to >research his subjects quite thoroughly though and its not all sales hype >because initially a lot of stuff he recommended, he didn't actually sell. >I have had a lot of stuff from him and its all been good too. Dee > >---Original Message--- > >From: [2]Indi >Date: 04/07/2009 17:24:02 >To: [3]silver-l...@eskimo.com >Subject: Re: CS>Vit. D 3 'hype' > >Hi Dee, > >I searched for that info but didn't find it, seems all >searches including the term "mercola" want to scream so many >ads at me I just got overwhelmed by it all. And mercola.com >raises too many red flags; they seem to be into harvesting >email addresses and won't give much info without one. > >I did find a video by some "health renegade" guy who promised >an answer to the question, but I didn't have the stomach to >survive the first minute of his self-promotion. He did look >like he needed a bath though... > >Is Mercola one of those people like Rife and Hulda Clark, >surrounded by "vendors" hoping to profit from someone else's >brilliance? If so, what are the good sites to reference his >work? > >-- >indi > > > References > >Visible links >1. http://www.vitamindcouncil.com/ >2. mailto:indi.sha...@gmail.com >3. mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Brown Recluse Spider, What is Important
What if it's been a week since the bite occurred, and one is still weak and in some pain -- will the jolt still be helpful? I was bitten by something last Friday, and went through quite a bit of pain and illness since then. It seems to be getting much better now, currently I have an icky looking black circle almost an inch in diameter, surrounded by a concentric red circle of about three inces in diameter on my left inner thigh. I thought it was a mosquito bite at first, due to intense itching. But then it became hellishly painful, caused my whole leg to swell, and I got very ill for a few days. I used a lot of tea tree oil on it, which seemed to help, and also drank a lot of CS. Day three I made a godzilla device with a 6V lantern battery and have zapped it for 20 minutes at a time several times a day since, also used hot compresses of epsom salt water. All that seems to have helped a bit. Yesterday I took a nice long walk around the lake, thinking exercise would be a good idea, but it seems today it's a bit worse for doing that. BTW, I'm not convinced it's a BR bite, as I do have a history of being allergic to many kinds of bugs that don't seem to affect other people. But this one's been pretty bad... I'm definitely recovering, but it's taking too darn long! TIA, -- indi On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 10:16:02AM -0400, Ode Coyote wrote: > > > A 12 volt car battery is not a strong shock. > A car "coil"..IS. > ..pull a plug wire and dance baby dance. > at over 20,000 volts > > Ode > > > > At 08:24 AM 7/3/2009 -0400, you wrote: >> car battery can not shock... >>> - Original Message - >>> From: <mailto:dianne_fra...@hotmail.com>Dianne France >>> To: <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>silver-list >>> Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 7:31 AM >>> Subject: RE: CS>Brown Recluse Spider, What is Important >>> >>> I was watching a video once that said that if bitten by a poisonous >>> snake, they could shock the spot quickly, possibly 5-10 minutes they >>> could change the poison in the bite to a normal protein the body >>> could deal with and eliminate. I think they were using a strong >>> shock like from a car battery in the emergency. It's been a long >>> time since I saw the video so my memory might not be accurate. >>> >>> Dianne > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > -- indi
Re: CS>Vit. D 3 'hype'
Hi Dee, I searched for that info but didn't find it, seems all searches including the term "mercola" want to scream so many ads at me I just got overwhelmed by it all. And mercola.com raises too many red flags; they seem to be into harvesting email addresses and won't give much info without one. I did find a video by some "health renegade" guy who promised an answer to the question, but I didn't have the stomach to survive the first minute of his self-promotion. He did look like he needed a bath though... Is Mercola one of those people like Rife and Hulda Clark, surrounded by "vendors" hoping to profit from someone else's brilliance? If so, what are the good sites to reference his work? -- indi On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 04:35:10PM +0100, Dee Fitzpatrick wrote: >According to mercola, the trouble with getting Vit D3 from the sun is that >people tend to shower using products after sun exposure and this robs the >skin of the vit D which has been made along with cholesterol in the skin. >48 hours should be allowed for the vitamin to synthesize properly, or you >should just allow water to run over the skin, not soap stuff. This is one >of the reasons that people's systems are depleted. Dee > >---Original Message--- > >From: [1]Indi >Date: 04/07/2009 15:39:14 >To: [2]silver-l...@eskimo.com >Subject: Re: CS>Vit. D 3 'hype' > >I always remember reading that Vit D, being oil-based and thus not easily >eliminated, was one of the few vitamins that can actually cause harm if >over done. Supposedly, the human body will automatically make all it needs >through exposure to sunlight. Of course, lots of things one reads turn out >to be utter bull, especially medical and nutrition advice, so who knows... >Also, the various forms of what is commonly called "Vitamin D" apparently >have radical differences in their effect on the body. >Personally, I think we don't really know squat about nutrition yet and >should take it all with a grain of NaCl. Of course, for someone who has a >serious illness, some experimentation may be worthwhile. Probably beats >whatever patent meds the docs have been bribed to prescribe this week... > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Vit. D 3 'hype'
I always remember reading that Vit D, being oil-based and thus not easily eliminated, was one of the few vitamins that can actually cause harm if over done. Supposedly, the human body will automatically make all it needs through exposure to sunlight. Of course, lots of things one reads turn out to be utter bull, especially medical and nutrition advice, so who knows... Also, the various forms of what is commonly called "Vitamin D" apparently have radical differences in their effect on the body. Personally, I think we don't really know squat about nutrition yet and should take it all with a grain of NaCl. Of course, for someone who has a serious illness, some experimentation may be worthwhile. Probably beats whatever patent meds the docs have been bribed to prescribe this week... -- indi On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 12:52:51PM +, mborg...@att.net wrote: > Be careful of vitamin d3 it is a rat poison. > Good information at the marshallprotocol.com/forum2/2572 > -- Original message from Shirley Reed : > -- > >About 50 years ago mention was made in some weekly reader or something > about how research on Vit. D was sparse. Yet, what had been learned > indicated that this nutrient just might be extremely important in many ways. > However, its un-patentability made greater research unlikely or at least very > slow. Since then I have been on the lookout for more info on Vit. D. Only > since computers became easily accessible have I been able to get much more > information. Now there is tons of info and it nearly all points to a really > great need for more of this nutrient for nearly everyone. It seems it may > actually be some sort of master nutrient. There is much to be learned, but > the site www.vitamindcouncil.com will be very enlightening. What is going on > is that information that could once be suppressed for the money interests of > the few, can now be publicized far and wide by computers. And it is being > publicized. Similar to the information about the connection between iodine > deficiency and cancer, along with loads of other easily preventable poor > health conditions. My opinion--considered and informed. Not medical advice. >pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>clear blisters on the finger
I share your pain, having also developed an allergy to alcohol. Sometimes, on these hot summer days I think to myself, "wouldn't it be lovely to have a nice pitcher of sangria?". Then I realize the fact that I think of a pitcher rather than a glass proves the problem hasn't really gone away... -- indi On Thu, Jul 02, 2009 at 05:15:15AM -0400, Sandee George wrote: > I had a similar problem many many years ago - my experience was rum, and > it was not blisters - it was > double up in pain, cold sweat and ending up on the floor The > body knows when enough is enough > pity that humans do not listen !!! > REgards to all > Sandee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>clear blisters on the finger
I've always been a tea drinker, and starting in 1984 suddenly got those same symtoms (maddeningly itchy, blistery rash on fingers) which eventually I determined were caused by drinking tea. I was unable to find any brand of tea that didn't cause the problem, and had to give it up altogether for a few years. Periodically I'd try buying some tea and drinking it, but the problem would immediately recur. Finally, in 1990 I found I was able to drink tea again without having those symptoms. Always wondered if it was caused by some pesticide or fertilizer used for growing tea during those years... More recently I tried some organically-grown teas, but so far haven't found a tea which is organically grown and also good quality. One would think the two were mutually exclusive, though I'm sure they're not. Think I will try growing my own tea, and see how that goes. As I currently pay $45/kilo for my preferred brand, I probably have nothing to lose but a little time... -- indi On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 08:54:08AM -0500, David Bearrow wrote: > I've gotten the blisters on my fingers. They were itchy as can be. When I > switched away from Maxwell House to Starbucks the blisters went away. To > test the theory I went back to Maxwell House and sure enough the blisters > returned til I switched again. > > David > > At 08:43 AM 6/30/2009, you wrote: > >> Does anyone know what causes the clear blisters >> on the fingers ? >> >> >> Wayne > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS> OT mail configuration
Hi Renee, I've always found the best solution is to configure your email client to ignore receipt requests. Works much better than trying to convince the average person to configure their email software, which they never seem to learn to do... ;) -- indi On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 01:19:05PM -0500, Gaiacita wrote: >Could the folks that have their emails set for everyone to acknowledge the >receipt of their message please change their settings? > >Samala, >Renee > >---Original Message--- > >Thank you for the tip > > > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>The Day has been Set
Afternoon Wayne, I am so glad you're back, and I wish you a speedy recovery. The list and indeed the world would not be the same without you. Blessings, -- indi On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 07:16:20AM -0500, Wayne Fugitt wrote: > > Morning Marshall, and the list, > > I did not intend to ruin a good list, > I did not. > > >>At 03:22 PM 6/10/2009, you wrote: >> I reached his son at STA Engineering, and would not give his number >> out except that it is already public information if you do a whois on >> fugitt.com >Wendell should have know this, but he has been more > worried than I have. > >> 601-622-0643 >> Marshall > > I did miss the morgue, but a few times > I thought I was headed there. > > The things they did do me was much worse than the > procedure itself. > > Now I can read the computer screen. > For a time, I could not read or hear, due to the low blood flow. > > Soon I hope to write the details, history, origin, cause, > > Likely make a web page so It can may be of value > to others. > > I do appreciate the concern and loving comments > made by everyone. > > And likely I should not have done it the way I did. > NO doubt. > > I did use CS, every which way from Sunday, > You can bet on that. > > I took it to the hospital, in camouflaged bottles > and fooled everyone in sight. > > The ordeal is over, and I would like to write a book > about > What Secret Weapons to take to the hospital. > > One I will take the next time, > if the next time happens, > > Is a police whistle around my neck, > because... > the bogus nurse call system did not work. > > It the distance past, . I could have fixed that too. > > Plus, > I gave them hell > whey they used the wrong word > or gave me the wrong definition, > or beat around the bush, ... > Lots of idiots there. > I expected all to be Experts, . > > I made many friends with some of them, Yes Indeed. > > The heart clinic is in the top 5 in the country. > ( St Dominic Heart Center, Jackon, MS ) > So,... I survived, > > They said I have only 1 year to live, > but I am > betting my life they are wrong > on that also. > > If... If > I get to feeling as good as > I would like to feel, > > I may make a list > for > Bogus Hospitals, > Bogus Doctors, > and > all the > mistakes they make, . > Some would not like that list. > but some of us. > would like it and make some > valuable contributions. > > Again, > I appreciate the concern for me. > I doubt that I was > worth it > > Wayne > if I made a mistake or two in the message, > I am still... a bit below PAR... > > === > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>Wayne
Yay -- Thank you so much Marshall! -- indi On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 12:01:45PM -0400, Marshall Dudley wrote: > Ok, everyone. I just got a call back on Wayne, and the news is good. He > come through surgery fine yesterday, and he is recovering today. They > expect to release him from the hospital tomorrow. His son said that > anyone wanting to send him a get well card can send it to: > > Wayne Fugitt > 1057 South Jackson Road > Terry, MS 39170 > > I expect (or at least hope ) we will be hearing from him in a few days. > > Marshall > > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>Wayne
That's a good idea. The balloon angioplasty of course is the festive one, where you get to walk away with a helium balloon, cotton candy, and fries with vinegar. Just like going to a carnival. :) -- indi On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 06:41:58PM -0400, Guyot Léna wrote: > Hi All, > Along with our prayers for Wayne, let's all hold the image of Wayne > coming out of successful surgery and waking up to the news that > everything went well. Let's also hope that he soon learns how many > people were concerned and care about his well-being, and that he feels a > renewed gratitude for his precious life. > > Be well, > Léna > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > -- indi
Re: CS>The Day has been Set
Thank you for the info Marshall. My prayers are with him, and all of us... -- indi On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 02:23:36PM -0400, Marshall Dudley wrote: > I just spoke to his son. He is in the hospital now, and is having a > Balloon angioplasty done tomorrow. Let's all pray for him. > > Marshall > > Norton, Steve wrote: >> Wayne, >> Stay with us. We love and need you too. >> - Steve N >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:cwa...@netdoor.com] Sent: Wednesday, June >> 10, 2009 3:38 AM >> To: silver-list@eskimo.com >> Subject: CS>The Day has been Set >> >> >> The Day has been Set. June 11, 2009 >> >> The day has been set >> for me >> to go to the Morgue. >> >> It is a bad place, some suggest >> >> I have never been there >> so, I cannot tell you >> How bad it is, >> >>After I go, >> I will then tell you, >> 'How good or bad it is. >> >> Possibly, a mistake could be made >> and I would go, Or be sent >> To some other place first. >> >>If that be the case, >> It might be some time later when >> I get to the Morgue. >> Some indefinite time later. >> >> With all that in mind, >> I can only hope, >> A mistake will be made. >> >> If this is the last message, >> I write to you, >>I want you all to know, >> >> You are all my friends >> And I love you all very, very much. >> >> My last wish for you, >> Is that you >> Loose your way to the Morgue, >>and you never find it. >> >> Someone on the list will deep >> You updated with the detains. >> >> The Good Angles >> Have forsaken me, >> and >> They have been replaced >> by >> The Angles, >>Of the devil, the Devil's Angles >> >> Wayne Fugitt >> >> >> >> -- >> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >> >> Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org >> >> To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >> >> Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >> >> The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... >> >> List maintainer: Mike Devour >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > -- indi
