CS>

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

http://tiny.cc/0h5jpz

Re: CS>OT - DE

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

Hello PT,

I have also tried to take the Perma Guard food grade DE several different times 
along with very good hydration with pure water ( my drink of choice always).   
I was never able to get past about a tsp a day and eventually even1/4 tsp 
caused abdominal distress.  I had intense soreness and a raw cramping 
sensation, mostly on the left each time and quite painful.  

I was diagnosed with IBS many years ago and still have symptoms from various 
foods sometimes, but had much greater symptoms of cramping and D with the DE 
trials.  This was a very disappointing happening to me because I had researched 
DE so thoroughly before initiating taking the DE and was so ready to experience 
benefits from taking DE..

My husband takes about a tbsp of DE daily in his protein shake with no problems 
whatsoever. 

When I have previously inquired about anyone having any difficulty taking DE or 
building up the dose, there were no direct answers on that forum and a response 
from the moderator that there would not be a problem from the DE itself.  My 
hypersensitive system does react negatively and I now choose to not take DE 
internally anymore because of these past episodes. 

We bought a 50 pound sack of Perma Guard DE because of the strength of the 
information we had gleaned about food grade DE.  DH takes it and we use it 
successfully as insect control.

Hope this helps validate your own experience.  We are each a unique creation 
and are not a one-size-fits-all situation regarding any health giving remedy. 

Blessings,
Paula

Forwarded Message: Re: CS>OT - DERe: CS>OT - DE
Friday, October 28, 2011 4:13 PM



From: 
"phoenix23002 tds.net" 



To: 
silver-list@eskimo.comPT.. I too was taking the food grade DE 
for several weeks and had to
stop.  I never got over 1 tsp twice x day.  It started as a very mild
pain in my left side and worsened.. not horrible but it was there.  I
have mild diverticulosis, found when I had a colonoscopy a few years
back.  I have only had it flare up a few times but the pain is very
similar to the pain I got with the DE, varying only by degree.  The DE
pain was very slight by comparison but it truly was a feeling of
'rawness'.  I don't know how else to describe it.  Diverticulosis is
almost invariably found on the left side of the abdomen, about 4 - 6
inches horizontally over from the belly button.  I am not saying this
is your problem but.. it sounds eerily similar to my problems with DE.
   You may have undiagnosed diverticulosis that DE irritates possibly?
 I do believe in educating your self and listening to your body.  If I
were to use DE again, I would probably experiment and try eating with
bread or something?  Lola

On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 3:26 PM, PTFerrance  wrote:
> Thank you, Brooks and Jaxi.  I am not taking the swimming pool variety, I am
> taking the veterinary variety which I figured was also good for people since
> DE cannot be sold in Florida (I am told) for human consumption.
>
> The pain is not a doubling over pain (more like serious menstrual cramps but
> only on the left side)... it is serious enough to make me stop taking the
> DE.   I have taken it and stopped taking it several times and each time this
> is happening.  It is a puzzle to me.
> Thanks.
> PT
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Brooks Bradley [mailto:bradlebro...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 3:04 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>OT - DE
>
>       Dear PT,
>           We have evaluated via many different
> scenarios--different protocols
> involving large animals and humans, throughout the immediately-past 25
> years..
> all without any compromising incidents.  There is one caution I would
> offerif one
> is not aware of the potential dangersand that is to BE SURE to use
> ONLY the amorphous
> form of DE.  This is VERY IMPORTANT, AS THE SWIMMING POOL TYPE has been
> heated
> to an elevated temperature, which causes a collapse of the random
> crystal structure---resulting
> in a very real threat to human healthespecially if inhaled.  The
> amorphous form is that which   is
> normally distributed by agricultural and feed stores.
>             We HAVE experienced cases where subjects encountered
> presentations somewhat similar to those you report.
> In almost every case, a hydration condition was involved.  DE is quite
> hygroscopic.  As a matter of general course, we found
> that one  tablespoon of DE requires a minimum of 6 ounces (better with
> 8) of water (not juices or carbonated drinks).in order
> to provide an optimal alimentary environment.
>               Diatomaceous  Earth can, under certain circumstances,
> become a factor in unwanted agglomeration...in
> the presence multiple chemical mixtures.  However, as a general
> rule...it is quite benign and does not genera

CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2011 #290 Seasonal Affective Disorder - SAD

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

The gloomies have started again with the cloudy and stormy days and I am 
thankful for the wonderful rain we so needed!  I checked the archives and found 
reference to red light bulbs, graduated rose sunglasses and the following from 
Brooks  I am asking if anyone has battled SAD and what weapons gave 
relief?  What lights or light bulbs and where to purchase?  Other modalities 
that were tried and did not help?  T
 
Thanks to everyone from Paula
 
 
Re: Off topic from CS; autumn, Less daylight & effects
Brooks Bradley
Tue, 8 Sep 1998 13:54:27 -0400 (EDT)
Our research group conducted extensive tests, 5 or 6 years ago, on the effects 
of full-spectrum lighting on a variety of subjects, from race-horses, to school 
children. We obtained some remarkable results. We were inspired to perform 
these tests as a result of the influence of John Ott, a banker turned amateur 
photographer in the late 60's. He wrote several interesting books. 
Of all the bulbs and lighting systems we tested, those manufactured by the 
Durotest corporation were---by far---the best and the ONLY ones that met all of 
the published specifications. One of our office staff just informed me that 
Durotest has a web site..http://concentric.net/~Durotest/ We have
no connection with these people, economic, professional or otherwise. They just 
had the best products at the time of our tests (1984-86). I hope this is of 
value. Brooks Bradley. 

 

CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2011 #113 Prayer for Mike's brother

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

Mike,

Just got this info and am even now praying for you, your brother, all family 
and friends and all who will be ministering medical care or have any contact 
with your brother in any way that all of you may be given God's wisdom, Divine 
strength and His power during this time of need.  

Thanks for sharing and please update brother's condition as you are able.

Prayers and blessings from Paula

--- On Tue, 5/3/11, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com 
 wrote:
Hello folks,

One of the reasons I've been so quiet lately is that we're dealing with 
my brother's health situation.

He's undergoing a critical cardiac procedure this morning, to attempt 
to open and place stents in at least three of the grafts he received 
during a quadruple bypass operation 2-1/2 weeks ago, which evidently 
collapsed starting Sunday morning.

He's only 60 years old, and a basically good, gentle person, often 
bemused by this thing called... life. I've asked that divine healers 
and the Christ attend him along with his worldly doctors. Please send 
him your prayers and well-wishes.

Thank you.

Peace,

Mike D.

CS>afibbers magnesium bicarbonate water - off topic

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

We also had to search a bit and finally found HEB brand seltzer water 
at a larger HEB supermarket.   I believe we also found a water and CO2 only at 
Walmart - but passed it up because the HEB was a few cents less per bottle. 
Last trip into town I noticed that the HEB sletzer had gone from 2/$1 to 57 
cents each...so that is close to the Walmart price.  Hope you find it and that 
it helps!  
Blessings, paula
.  
 
CS>afibbers magnesium bicarbonate water - off topic
Tuesday, April 19, 2011 5:17 PM



From: 

"PT Ferrance" 



To: 
silver-list@eskimo.com






Hi,
I finally got around to going and purchasing the necessary items to make the 
magnesium bicarbonate water. The only thing is that when I got home I found 
that the Seagram's club soda I purchased also has potassium phosphate, 
magnesium sulvate and potasium bicarbonate in it. The directions were specific 
about having nothing other than CO2 and water but I have been looking and have 
not been able to find any seltzer or club soda in the stores I have been 
checking that are only CO2 and water.

Any ideas?
Thanks.
PT

CS>gluten/celiac intolerance

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

Sol,
 
It is wonderful news that the gluten free is helping you so much and so 
quickly.  I hope things continue to improve more and more as you remain gluten 
free.   Have you read the vet's article about the fearsome 4 foods?  I scanned 
a lot of his website today and sense he is really on to something many of us 
would greatly benefit from. and not just our pets!  one of the other posts 
referred to him and then I got an email to his website
http://dogtorj.tripod.com/index.html   
 
We get cinnamon 1000mg plus Chromium 100 mg in capsules at Walmart and take a 
couple whenever we eat out or have  larger than usual meal.   You can also use 
regualr cinnamon mixed into the food or make cinnamon tea, but then I want to 
add sugar which is counterproductive in my estimation, so I take the capsules 
and a glass of water.
 
Blessings from Paula
 
 
 
 
Forwarded Message: Re: CS>gluten/celiac intolerance



Re: CS>gluten/celiac intolerance
Friday, February 18, 2011 9:33 PM



From: 

"sol" 



To: 
silver-list@eskimo.com


I have had Peripheral Neuropathy since May of 2010 without any definitive 
diagnosis. Researching online, I came across a forum where celiacs discussed 
neuropathy. Apparently there is a connection, so I started a strict gluten free 
diet, and within a couple of days was able to reduce my pain medication by 
half. [Blood sugar control issues are also involved for me, but the gluten 
seems to be a big part of it].
sol




  

CS>ancient Aliens

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

I, likewise, do not have TV.  If anyone finds the online site to view Ancient 
Aliens, could you please post the link?   
Thanks in advance from paula
 
Re: CS>ancient Aliens
Tuesday, January 25, 2011 11:41 AM



From: 

"Beth Harrison" 



To: 
"silver-list@eskimo.com" 



Thanks. We don't have TV but online might work.  I'll look for it. :)

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 24, 2011, at 10:44 PM, Deborah Gerard  wrote:






Hi Beth,
It is on the History Channel every thursday night you can probably watch reruns 
somewhere online,
Deb



  

CS>Mercury Filling removal - anesthesia

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

Hi Jess and Pat,
 
Jess.If memory serves correct the carbocaine is detoxified more easily and 
through different pathways than the lidocaine which usually has epinephrine 
with 
it to make it last longer in the tissues, affording a longer anesthesia.  For 
those of us with chronic health issues, the detoxification process if already 
impaired or we would not have the chronic condition, and our inability to 
handle 
the epinephrine is usually a part of this chronic illness.  I have been told to 
not allow epinephrine to be given to me under any circumstances, even 
anaphalaxis,  as my adrenals cannot compensate for the shock of the epi effects 
in my body.  Also I never thought I was having any trouble with the lidocaine 
with epinephrine until that dentist gave me the carbocaine and I felt so much 
better in spite of the other effects of the dental treatment.  

 
Pat.If I had my choice I would definately see a biologic dentist as they 
are 
trained far beyond regular dentistry regarding the interaction of the dental 
materials and the human body - specifically YOUR body and various materials 
including how to test your body for reactivity to any chosen materials.  In my 
case it was a horrendously expensive difference, so I chose to tough it out and 
paid the price of needing a couple of months to detox what was released in the 
process of the drillling into my mouth - even with the helper using the vacuum 
in my mouth I could feel the particulate hitting all over my mouth and throat.  
If I had been allowed to rinse and spit more frequently it might have helped a 
bit, but he was drilling on several teeth in the same sitting, trying to get 
the 
work done before the end of my dental insurance coverage.  I did not start 
heavy 
metal reactions for about 24 hours, but when I did it was a combat zone for 
weeks of unrelenting sore throat, swollen glands, flu like symptoms, pain, low 
grade fever, brain fog, lessened thyroid function and increased adrenal 
stress.  
I did eventually get over it and did use some heavy metal detox - what 
specifically I cannot remember.  Only that I would probably try to do it 
differently if I had the opportunity.
 
Blessings, Paula
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Fw: RE: CS>Mercury Filling removal - anesthesia
RE: CS>Mercury Filling removal - anesthesia
Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:35:35 PM
From: 
"jessie70" 
To: 
"" 
Paula, why is carbacaine better than lidocaine? I am also having work done at 
the end of this month, removing a large, old mercury filling and replacing with 
a partial crown and also two smaller mercury fillings to be replaced.  Thanks, 
Jess


  

CS>Mercury Filling removal - anesthesia

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

Just an FYIIF IF IF there is any overlaying illness such as chronic 
fatigue/fibromyalgia/hypothyroidism/MCS/EI present we may not clear the usual 
local mouth anesthesia of have a mild reaction we have considered normal just 
because it is the way we have always felt after dental work requiring injection 
anesthesia.  I am thankful a dentist actually lookd at my medical history and 
said "You know I just attended a workshop and they said that Carbocaine is the 
anesthesia of choice for folks like you because it does not clear by the same 
pathways that lidocaine does and they said that since the epinepherine can 
cause 
you some problems too, I'll use plain Carbocaine".   WOW the difference in 
recovery was amazing, none of the jaw sensations or body flu like symptoms.  


He was also the doc that refused to use a dam in my mouth because " It would 
take so much time in my chair and you will do just fine" when he removed a 
mercury filling.  I was at the very end of dental insurance and he was willing 
to say I needed the fillings replaced, s.   I had to go through major 
detox because he would not use that dam, and probably because so far as I knew 
it was the last mercury in my mouth..and I could not afford a biologic 
dentist.

Although I have not had any need for any mouth anesthesia in the last 8 years 
(Yea!).  I have made my new dentist note that if I need injectable anesthesia 
he 
is to use only Carbocaine for me - - - reply from dental tech and dentist "No 
problem, we have it right here" as the tech reached into the drawer to show it 
to me.    


Pat, we are hoping things go well for the mercury removal!

Blessings from Paula


  

CS>MRSA - again

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

Thanks for the heads up about muratic acid. 

So are hydrochorus acid and hydrochloric acid almost the same thing?  

Now can someone tell me where or how they used or heard of use of the muratic 
acid?  Is it to be used to activate the MMS?  And if so, how does the resulting 
activated MMS differ from using vinegar or lemon juice?

I am brain blithered from the weekend and more break outs on Leon.  After the 
current quarter sized lesion, all the rest have been tiny. ALL are diminishing 
with the addition of Miracle II neutralizer liquid and gel to the treatment 
plan.  Today all the areas are definately in retreat, but the last several days 
have been a real strain emotionally and physically.  Leon says the pain is now 
nonexistent and he is choosing to continue treating as we are, as he does not 
choose to consult a doc or ER.  He feels what we are doing is working and will 
work to get to the root cause.  He has started turp and says it tastes like 
minty flavored fine turpentine.  So far so GOOD.  


Fw: Re: CS>MRSA - again
Re: CS>MRSA - again
Sunday, October 24, 2010 10:39:52 AM
From: 
"Dan Nave" 
To: 
"" 
Try "Muriatic acid."  Hardware store, or internet.

Dan



  

CS>MRSA - again

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

Thanks Tom,

You brought up several points we, nor anyone else had mentioned. 

I am so sensitive to citric acid that we are using either fresh lemon juice or 
ACV  to activate the MMS as we do not even have any citric acid.  Can you 
transpose your calculations using either of those?

Don't know where we could get Hydrochloric acid here in the boonies, maybe the 
high school?  If that becomes a possibility, how much do I need and does it 
come 
in different strengths?

I have been washing the sheets and clothing double in HOT water with oxy 
cleaner 
and detergent.  When you say 5 ml of MMS, do you mean activated MMS or straight 
out of the MMS bottle MMS..sorry I get so confused about that point.  Renee 
suggested that we refer to the activated as AMMS and the unactivated as 
MMS.and that has helped us differentiate here at home

Leon is notorious for acquiring thrift store personal clothing and I do not 
mind 
so long as on arrival home it gets the multi wash in hot water TX and sometimes 
even bleach the bejeebers out of it in the old washer outside so I do not get 
sick from the chlorine smell inside the house.  BUT he also will just put his 
new finds away if not thinking about it or I do not catch him wandering in with 
his newest treasure  (old habit we are still working on).  


Our big bone of contention is his buying used shoes and not washing them in hot 
water and bleach before bringing them in.  I go balistic on this one as I have 
had to fight fungus and yeast so much more since we married a year ago and 
think 
it is coming in one the used stuff he is constantl acquiring,  and he 
blissfully 
remains clueless no matter how many times I ask him to clean up his shoes and 
his act because of my own poorly functining immune system.as he 
blissfully floats down de nile. Yurhhh.  


Thanks for the input and for listening and I look forward to your answers to 
this post.

Blessings from Paula


Fw: RE: CS>MRSA - again
RE: CS>MRSA - again
Friday, October 22, 2010 1:02:32 PM
From: 
"Tom Poast" 
To: 
"" 
Hello Paula,
 
The MMS protocol doesn’t produce enough chlorine dioxide to be effective 
against 
MRSA.  It helps, but it isn’t strong enough to eliminate it.
 
If you had hydrochloric acid, a topically mixture could be made that is strong 
enough, and still not too strong to irritate the skin and surrounding tissue.
 
However, let’s work with what you have.
 
Mix up in a glass 1 ml of MMS and add to that 1 ml of 10% citric acid.  Let 
this 
activate for 10 minutes, then add enough water to make a total solution of 125 
ml.  Cut a square of paper towel that will fit over the problem area.  Dip the 
paper towel into the solution and apply.  Let it sit there for 5 minutes, then 
repeat 2 more times.  This will give you 3 applications in all.  This solution 
has around 100 PPM free chlorine dioxide but is an acid so it may irritate the 
skin.  An application in the morning followed by another application in the 
evening should eliminate the surface MRSA.  You can mix the solution in the 
morning, use it, and store it out of UV light until evening and use it again 
then.  It probably should be mixed fresh each morning.
 
Re-infection is another issue and you may want to consider disinfecting 
clothing 
and sleeping materials to remove that possibility.  In your washing machine you 
can pour 5 ml of MMS into the water and that should help.  In order to get a 
more accurate figure I would need the amount of water it takes to fill up your 
machine during a typical load.
 
Tom


  

CS>MRSA - again

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

Thanks Mary Ann - 

We welcome your prayers and have hope and reassurance that The Healer will 
direct our steps and bring His healing to both of us as we do well what our 
hands find to do.  


Bless you and thanks, Paula

Fw: Re: CS>MRSA - again
Re: CS>MRSA - again
Thursday, October 21, 2010 7:55:38 PM
From: 
"MaryAnn Helland" 
To: 
"" 
I can't be of any help Paula, but I'm praying/hoping for successful resolution.
MA




____________
From: Paula Samuels Anthis 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, October 21, 2010 1:52:23 PM
Subject: CS>MRSA - again


I don't know if we are getting healthier and "stuff" is coming out (which we 
hope is the case) or is we are just pathogen pits and becoming symptomatic!

Has anyone else been dealing with either isolated MRSA  or a possible systemic 
infection?  Hubby has his third nickle sized reddened area with the crusty 
middle but this time he withheld the info and did nothing as we tended to all 
the effects of my own dynamic wasp sting 10 days ago and all the after shocks 
my 
body was screaming about.  


He had the first area ID's by a doc last Jan on right calf - took months to 
clear but never opened.  Second was on belly about 6-8 weeks ago and likewise 
was only surface red, crusty middle with a dark spot in the very center - never 
drained as we zapped and CS'd it and MMS'd it and H2O2'd ( with DMSO added to 
each)it faithfully until it has almost totally faded away!   Victory on that 
one!   



  

CS>MRSA - again

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

I don't know if we are getting healthier and "stuff" is coming out (which we 
hope is the case) or is we are just pathogen pits and becoming symptomatic!

Has anyone else been dealing with either isolated MRSA  or a possible systemic 
infection?  Hubby has his third nickle sized reddened area with the crusty 
middle but this time he withheld the info and did nothing as we tended to all 
the effects of my own dynamic wasp sting 10 days ago and all the after shocks 
my 
body was screaming about.  


He had the first area ID's by a doc last Jan on right calf - took months to 
clear but never opened.  Second was on belly about 6-8 weeks ago and likewise 
was only surface red, crusty middle with a dark spot in the very center - never 
drained as we zapped and CS'd it and MMS'd it and H2O2'd ( with DMSO added to 
each)it faithfully until it has almost totally faded away!   Victory on that 
one!   


Now this third place on his left calf, which he chose to ignore for over a 
week, 
apparently started looking out looking the same as the others, but had formed a 
hard knot beneath it, become painful and the crusty part had already turned 
yellow and pus looking but was dry when he finally showed it to me two nights 
ago.  I had a fit, so he started zapping with 6 volts foot bath to second foot 
bath, directly over the site, and also on either side of the site alternating 
current direction (switching when I would remind him to do so).  Also using 
topical CS and MMS, plus oral H202 (all with DMSO added) every morning and MMS 
when I can catch him and remind him. (He is the most gentle, kind, loving and 
patient man I have ever met AND he has absolutely no sense of time or 
sequencing 
so my micro managing skills are needed way to frequently).

Has anyone dealt with localized or systemic MRSA  (online it says that if there 
are recurrent breakouts that it is definitely systemic). He has had these long 
lasting reddened spots for several years, but we never connected the dots till 
he became so ill last Jan.  The finding by DaddyBob about the cluster of lymph 
glands in proximity to the appendix confirmed our suspicion that the MRSA on 
the 
leg had traveled to his lower abdomen and was the true cause of all his 
abdominal distress last Jan, that the doc never pinpointed a reason for after 
four weeks severe pain and in bed with a 20 pound wt loss.

Feedback and suggestion are VERY welcome at this point!

Blessings for Paula in Palacios
 
I am going to post on the two other forums that have been such a help also.  We 
need to hit this and make any changes he needs to make before MRSA more 
seriously affects this wonderful man!


  

CS>hhg?

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

Forwarded Message: Re: CS>Leg Cramps



Re: CS>Leg Cramps
Marshall,
 
What is and hhg?  Sorry to need a translation.   
 
Thanks, Paula
 
Friday, October 15, 2010 8:26 PM



From: 

"Marshall Dudley" 



To: 
silver-list@eskimo.com


Yes, soap transmutes DOR, and thus can be quite effective. Orgonite would be 
better and have better range, but soap will often work.  My wife used to get 
leg cramps almost every night, but after putting an hhg under the bed they 
stopped completely.

Marshall




  

CS>MgCl and hypertension, Leg Cramps and Potassium

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

Hi Dick,
 
I know you did not ask, but here is my experience anyway.  I have ongoing 
electrolyte issues and have found that potassium works better for my leg cramps 
and magnesium is better for "restless leg" type movements.  If I do not 
take potassium in supplement form AM and bedtime, leg cramps will follow that 
will not be relieved by anything but the potassium.
 
Now a question about the MgCl - How is it working concerning the hypertension?
 
 
From: Dick Rochon [mailto:rrocho...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 4:00 PM
To: paul catania
Cc: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>CS: Liposomal encapsulating others

 
Maybe you can encapsulate coconut milk, but not sure about the oil. Just try it.

 

 I have the big Harbor Freight Ultrasonic jewelry cleaner, and let it run 480 
seconds with Vit C and Glutathione. They work fine. I measured the Ph of the 
Vit C after adding the 3/4 tsp sodium bicarbonate, and it was still acidic, so 
I kept adding the soda until it read over 7. Not sure that is necessary, but it 
encapsulated ok. And the lecithin read about 7 before and after adding the Vit 
C.

 

I tried encapsulating magnesium chloride, but it didn't work. I am taking the 
magnesium chloride for hypertension and leg cramps, and am wondering if it 
would be more effective if it was encapsulated and went directly into the blood 
and cells where needed instead of through the digestive system.


  

CS>Re Plantar Fasciatis

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

DB,
 
When I thought I had done all that I could to diminish the pain of plantar 
fasciatis, I finally found that pressing upward with my thumb on the bottom of 
my foot at the point of the worst pain - which for me was the middle of the 
ball of the right foot - would "pop" something back into place and bring short 
term relief.  Doing this repeatedly over a period of time, a lot of prayer and 
telling my body it had been "made to do a job of supporting me while I walk, so 
do it already!" AND wearing a really mushy show with a bodacious arch support 
brought more relief.  In fact the only shoes I could wear for a couple of years 
were the Mush sandals from Teva ( I have long feet and had found the men's on 
sale so it was the men's style I was wearing) with a Spenco metatarsal pad I 
found online and glued into the sole of both right and left of the Teva Mush 
sandals.  The metatarsal support felt like I was walking on a rock at first, 
but it finally relieved
 the pain for that season.  Then came full healing of the entire problem.  Used 
a lot of DMSO on the foot bottoms too..
 
The podiatrist did nothing to help and said it would only get worse.  Now I am 
bare footing it and have absolutely NO foot pain!  I am so blessed and thankful 
and pray the same will come to your wonderful feet, DB.
 
I also was on huge amounts of MSM at the time for the fibromyalgia pain.  That 
FM pain receded a long time before the feet settled down, but they did.  Of 
course this was before I had all these other modalities to assist the healing 
process.  Maybe the use of some of them is what has allowed the bare footing 
freedom this summer?  .
 
Blessings from Paula in Palacios
 
 
 

--- On Wed, 10/13/10, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com 
 wrote:


From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com 
Subject: silver-digest Digest V2010 #833
To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, October 13, 2010, 3:57 PM




  

CS>Help with tooth extraction pain

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

Sunny,
 
What does the mucous membrane of the palate look like?  Is it red, swollen, 
splotchy, white patches, oozing pus, macerated or torn in places?  I am getting 
a bit concerned for you here.  Your mouth should be improving and settling down 
already!  Could you be having a hypersensitivity reaction to the injection that 
deadened the area?  Have you used MMS before and done all right with it?  I 
also wonder if you had some tearing of the gum adjacent to the extraction area 
up into the palate?  Could that explanation "fit"?  What is your gut feeling 
about what is happening inside your mouth?  Did you increase the CS and dilute 
the MMS a bit more.  Tonight when I applied MMS/DMSO/CS to my back, some areas 
stung for a few minutes and other parts did not - no rhyme or reason.  So what 
do you FEEL is going on inside your poor little mouth?  Please contact the 
dentist tomorrowremembering he is going to make suggestions and the final 
choice about what
 to do is yours, always!  But please do get his professional opinion and do not 
be surprised if he wants to see you so he can observe the tissues that are 
causing you so much trouble.
Praying for your healing,  Paula
 
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Re: CS>Help with tooth extraction pain
Sunday, September 26, 2010 12:49 PM



From: 

"Sunny" 



To: 
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Thanks - not sure that's what it is.. now.. feels more like ulcerated palate 
around the tooth... sucking on cloves helps but not for long and eating 
anything other than ultra bland is like 'ouch sting sting'...


xx sunny



  

CS>Help with tooth extraction pain

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

Sunny,
 
None of the following is given as mediacal advice, just comments and things I 
have done or would try.
 
OUCH!  With that much trauma to the socket area to remove the tooth - in three 
pieces, it stands to reason that it is gonna take a while for the bone 
"bruising" and trauma to settle down and heal, sort of like it takes a broken 
bone a lot longer to heal than a bad tissue bruise.  The dentist separated jaw 
bone from tooth (bone-like) tissue and a 3 rooter is a task because of the 
angles on the roots  going in different directions.  
 
>From what you describe and what you are doing - unless you have a foul odor, 
>pus from the empty gum area,  fever, increased swelling or redness or other 
>signs of infection like on the list the dentist should have given you - it is 
>just going to be a healing process.  
 
Personally, I would probably be gently swishing and swallowing the silver many 
more times a day as it is anti-inflammatory as well as helping kill pathogens.  
I just feel better when I am taking the silver several times a day.
 
I made and used a zapper on a tooth root and am having good results.  We 
are glad I took the plunge as it is a very positive one for me.
 
Lower jaw swelling is called "dependent edema" a fancy term for describing the 
fluids from the swelling in the upper jaw running downhill - from the upper jaw 
to the lower one.  You may end up with resolving bruising in the lower jaw as 
dependent bruising is often very deep and will not be seen until it begins 
resolving from the dark to the blue and green and yellow stages.  
 
It would be wise to keep drinking adequate amounts of pure water and stay away 
from sugars in the mouth as they can feed all the nasty pathogens just waiting 
to set up housekeeping.  
 
The stitch might have been used to pull raw gum edges back together after that 
rough extraction.  The tissue edges are probably healed but I would not remove 
the stich until contacting the dentist on Monday as I do not know about the 
moist mouth area and stitches.  Leaving the tail on that nylon stitch would 
make it easier to remove later.
 
Are you only swishing the MMS or are you taking it orally so it can reach that 
area from the inside also?  If MMS is stinging that much I wonder if you would 
be kinder to the open and raw tissues by diluting it a bit more???
 
Seems common sense to be sure to brush the rest of your teeth, very gently and 
avoid the sore area.  Maybe use Hydrogen peroxide or silver?
 
I wonder if rinsing your mouth with hydrogen peroxide might also give some 
relief.  I have been using H2O2 in a water moistened mouth with good results 
lately.  Just a thought.
 
I am so sorry you have had such a tough experience and pray you will feel 
better soon and heal completely.
 
Keep us posted on your progress as well as what seems to help and what did 
not.  Helps us to know these things.
 
Blessings from Paula in Palacios
 
 
 
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Re: CS>Help with tooth extraction pain
Sunday, September 26, 2010 7:36 AM



From: 

"needling around" 



To: 
silver-list@eskimo.com



#yiv1296453714 DIV {
MARGIN:0px;}


Hi Sunny,
As far as I know a "dry socket" is when the blood clot in the socket is 
dislodged.  I found some information on the web at 
http://www.medicinenet.com/dry_socket/article.htm 
 
I hope this is helpful.
Good luck.
PT

- Original Message - 
From: Sunny 
To: Silver List 
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2010 7:07 AM
Subject: CS>Help with tooth extraction pain




Hi all,   I know no one can give medical advice, I fully take responsibility 
for choosing to follow any 'ideas' anyone may share... as my choice!


I've just had a tooth extracted, upper molar, which required injections of 
numbing stuff into the upper palate, lots of drilling to cut up the tooth and 
subsequent hacking out in 3 sections..and stitches.  It is still painful after 
a week and sore..and some nylon loop has now appeared dangling from the area... 
husband tried to cut it so it would not catch... but it is hard to do with 
scissors.   The dentist didn't say anything about soluble stitches or to come 
back and have them outI don't want to revisit him to get 'medication' that 
he suggested he would give me if it still hurt after a week.. but I may call re 
the nylon-style unbreakable stitch thread...


My lower jaw was swollen as well...and has now gone down but is bruised..must 
have been dentist manhandling my mouth during the extraction.




  

CS>Cs and airport scanners

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

 
Hey - THANKS to "ALL Ya'll" for your helpful insights and suggestions about 
traveling and wanting my "water purifying" EIS/CS also.  
 
I do not see my limited thinking until so many of you answer with wonderful 
parts of a larger picture.   Blessings to each of you from Paula


  

CS>Cs and airport scanners

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

Hey Ode or anyone who has traveled with his Silver Puppy,
 
I have been wondering about traveling with Silver Puppy as a friend and her 
husband are asking about taking enough EIS for an overseas trip and I thought 
your Puppy would be a better idea, or maybe the Pocket Puppy would be the 
best for traveling?  
 
And is there any way to make either Puppy less a challenge to the examining 
folks, like maybe packing it in one of the old lead envelopes we used to put 
our 35mm camera film in so it would not get exposed?  Or do the new 
machines penetrate those too?  
 
Anyone know how much liquid ESI you can carry in checked luggage?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: CS>Cs and airport scanners
Sunday, September 12, 2010 5:59 AM



From: 

"Ode Coyote" 



To: 
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  "Nuking" doesn't hurt it.
..no problem at the port.

Ode



At 10:19 AM 9/11/2010 -0700, you wrote:

> Does someone have knowledge of whether or not CS is degraded if it were to 
> pass through a scanner at the airport?
> 
> I am not sure if there would be a sensitivity and deterioration to the  
> electric field of the scanner.
> 
> thanks,
> John


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CS>A perplexing Problem.... 68 yo post op complete hyst

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

I gotta jump in here and ask why she had the surgery and what the pathology 
reports of the tissues removed showed? 
 
Is she dealing with a cancer situation of a hysterectomy because everything was 
falling out down below?  
 
PLEASE, if it is a cancer in any form do not mess with her hormones  as this 
can greatly exacerbate growth of estrogen dependent cancer cells if that is in 
this picture.  
 
HOWEVER, if the surgery was primarily to aid in bladder control by getting a 
useless heavy uterus filled with old fibroids off her bladder and restore 
urinary control, and there was no cancer found, then she might benefit from 
hormone support.  But since we do not know about any prescription 
medications she is on or the pathology report it is best to support 
nutritionally and psychologically.  
 
After my hyst, I needed progerterone, not estrogin and finally found the 
bioidentical was sold in health food stores after prescriptives repeatedly made 
me sicker than a dog needing to eat grass.
 
Also, someone 68 may not have a full understanding of the anatomy and sometimes 
it is a bag full of reassurance that is needed - that she is still healthy or 
even healthier now that the useless organs are out and that she is still all 
woman!  
 
Technically a complete hysterectomy means that the whole uterus was removed.  A 
pan hysterectomy means the ovaries and uterus were removed.  So exactly what 
was removed here and why?  THEN go for remedies from a naturopathic viewpoint 
of support.  Most people assume that complete means all, and it does mean all 
of the uterus, but may or may not have involved removal of the ovaries also.  
With the information given it is safe to support with foods, silver for the 
extra well being and with a lot of physhological and emotional support while 
finding out the answers to these other unknowns.
 
Thanks for cyber listening, Paula
 
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RE: CS>A perplexing Problem
Saturday, September 4, 2010 8:34 AM



From: 

"David Bearrow" 



To: 
silver-list@eskimo.com


It sounds like withdrawal symptoms. The doctors may be assumming due to her
age that she went through menopause and was producing no estrogen. However
an ovarian cyst could excrete large amounts of estrogen and or progesterone.
It may be that she got used to this high level of estrogen and now that they
removed its source she is experiancing withdrawal from it. It wouldn't hurt
to give her some over the counter estrogen from natural sources. Any health
food store sells many different brands of estrogen supplements. If it helps
her then we have pinpointed the problem and you could continue to give it to
her and gradually ween her off over time. The herb black cohosh might make
her feel better also. 

David

-Original Message-
From: craehow...@juno.com [mailto:craehow...@juno.com] 
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 7:56 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>A perplexing Problem

A energetic never sick extremely active woman of 68 years recently underwent
a complete hysterectomy; within two weeks of surgery she is now depressed
has no appetite and has extreme shakes   she has never had any
surgery's' before and it was her first time ever in a hospital.   Her
doctors are at a loss   she keeps losing weight; her life is slowly
seeping away.

Has anyone heard of anything like this?   I believe the surgery was prompted
because of a sys or tumor on her ovaries.  

Appreciate any input.

thanks

connie




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CS>Need some ideas, please

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

Mary Ann,
I am so very sorry to hear that your bother is suffering so.  I am praying for 
his full return to good health in spirit, soul and body including thoughts and 
emotions.


 
When the news about the statins appeared It fits in with a rather odd twist 
with personal hubby experience.  Health care provider had wanted hubby on 
statins for years because of high cholesterol and family history although his 
is clear of any detectable cardiac disease thus far at age 60. We resisted 
medication in statin form because of working his lipid panel values through 
some formulas I found online that showed because of his super good HDL scores, 
his cholesterol really was not a health problem.   Of course the doc 
disagreed.  
 
Then I read a book on Hypothyroidism Type 2 by Mark Starr MD.  In it he tells 
how less than optimal thyroid hormone  tissue ( as opposed to circulating blood 
serum) levels can lead to a myriad of cascading symptoms including to high 
cholesterol, hyperglycemia and then diabetes, low body temperature, brain fog, 
repeated infections, lack of proper digestion related to low body temperature 
rendering many enzymatic processes in the body inactive, weight gain, dry skin, 
brittle nails and thinning hair, depression, malnutrition even with healthy 
dietary habits, poor eyesight,  coordination  etc etc etc.  I loaned my book 
and cannot remember all the thyroid related issues and symptoms.
 
 
 One of the very impressive simple self tests he mentions proved his theory 
about this particular office or home test to me.  First pinch the skin on the 
back of your hand and notice that all you get is skin to gently rub back and 
forth against itself.  Now try to pinch just skin on the upper outer arm.  If 
you can pinch skin only it is obvious and there is probably not a hypothyroid 
condition in progress.  If, however, you pinch skin and an inch or two of 
underlying flesh and cannot pinch just skin by itself, it is indicative of 
myxedema which Dr Starr says is a primary diagnostic tool indicating 
hypothyroidism in the body tissues.  If the thyroid hormone is available in the 
blood but not being picked up by the other cells of the body, it is a condition 
known as thyroid resistance.  Sounds akin to insulin resistance (aka diabetes), 
HUH?  This condition is not recognized by most endocrinologists, but very 
recognized by most docs who have
 themselves suffered thyroid resistance and found the treatment or had family 
members who were misdiagnosed and/or under medicated.  
 
Hubby is now on a high dose of dessicated pig Thyroid out of Canada since the 
American supply routes have become so contaminated.  He is also on 25 mcgm of 
T4 -levothyroxine - but a specific generic brand which has an excellent track 
record and which I also take along with my Cytomel brand T3 because I have 
sensitized to pork thyroid.  Hubby had cholesterol in 220-300 range before 
thyroid medication and after 6 months on present dose his cholesterol is 160 
without any other medical intervention!  His triglycerides were 300 and now 
67.  Hdl still very good and Ldl was also within normal limits although I do 
not recall those exact numbers.  His blood sugar was 118 before thyroid 
medications at which time the doc said "we will wait until it hits 120 and then 
will put him on diabetic medicine".  I hit the roof over that statement and we 
have not gone back to that doc who also would not treat him for hypothyroidism 
although he had EVERY symptom except
 menstrual cramps.  Leon's thyroid values of Free T3 and Free T4 are now in the 
high normal range, he is less heat and cold intolerant and no longer sleeps in 
heavy wool socks in the summer, he is much less depressed, he has more energy 
and seems to enjoy his work and leisure so much more than before thyroid 
medication was begun.  Leon has faithfully decreased his sweets intake, as well 
as cut dairy and wheat which are also implicated to cause inflammation for his 
blood type A.
 
Which brings me to the coconut oil theory and proven results for many.  I tried 
using it years ago when it was first found to be such a health boost as I had 
always loved anything coconut.  I got so ill from one meal and something I 
cooked with coconut oil I almost puked and developed flu like symptoms that 
lasted for several days but were not the flu.  All from one meal with coconut 
oil.  I tested the foods separately and the coconut oil again later and it was 
definitely the coconut oil that set me off.  Years later I discovered that for 
us blood Type A's coconut meat and oil is to be avoided because it can actually 
cause inflammation for us.  So discovering brother's blood type and exploring 
healthy foods within the ones that are especially good for his blood type might 
help this process, at least for while he is so ill.  The Eat Right 4 Your 
(blood) Type protocols have proven invaluable for me as I could have writ

CS>Need some ideas, please - Brother's memory problems

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

 
 
 



Mary Ann,
 
You asked for ideas so here are ours.  We care and ask you to keep us posted.
 
When my father showed similar behaviors, it was seizure related and it 
took careful recording of observations to alert the docs and get them on that 
seizure trail.  Daddy's electrolytes were also  WAY out of whack which is all 
the docs saw initially.   Daddy was very open about the double vision, 
forgetting, loss of years of memory, nausea, hearing changes, taste in his 
mouth, etc AT THE TIME IT WAS HAPPENING but then forgot those symptoms as soon 
as they were not present.  It took our recording him verbatim to get to the 
root of his problem.
 
I would wonder about blood sugar and  nutrition in general as seizure meds can 
cause deficiencies, but I do not remember what, but I am sure the docs have 
checked all that.  Is he taking any nutrients and if so what and how much and 
when did he start them?  Is his diet poor and would a bioavailable 
vitamin/mineral be a possibility - only with doctor's approval.  
 
Were any of his meds changed before the Father's Day episode? Even months 
before?
 
Does he take his meds on his own or is he in an environment that would help him 
remember to take them correctly and on schedule?  
 
If he is having this big a memory issue, chances are that he is also messing up 
with his med dosing.
 
My hubby will revert to old dosage and old schedule when he gets really tired 
and I have to watch that for him.  Is there anyone to help verify that 
your brother is taking his seizure meds timely and correctly? 
 
 Is alcohol in the mix here?  OTC meds?  Possible drug interaction with other 
meds changed before Father's Day?  Heavy smoking thus lower blood oxygen 
levels?  The blood levels of the medications are a place to start, but if he 
skips and makes up doses and then cannot remember to take doses it would play 
havoc with the brain signals.  
 
Hubby is asking if brother is depressed, lonely, suffers from apathy or 
anxiety?  Does he sleep well - too little or too much?  With this starting in 
summertime and it still being so hot, does brother drink enough water?  If he 
drinks enough water, does he maybe get drink  too much water ?
 
Age?
 
We are praying the cause of this memory problem can be identified and treated 
with good results.  In the meantime it sounds like brother needs family or 
caregivers in the picture for his health and safety as well as the safety of 
others. 
 
Has brother has had any high neck injury or problem - like a whiplash?   Have 
you tried chiropractic adjustment - by a GOOD chiropractor?
 
Just brain storming here - as I would for my own family member.  These are just 
questions that may have already all been explored, but manybe not.  
 
Blessings to you and brother and Mom, from Leon and Paula
 
 
 

"MaryAnn Helland" 



To: 
silver-list@eskimo.com






My brother is in trouble.  On Father's Day, he wanted to call my Dad and wish 
him a happy day -- my Dad died in 1996.  Recently, he (brother) was on his way 
to a location very near where he lives -- and ended up in a town four towns 
away.  On Tuesday night of this week, he called my Mom and asked her "Mom, is 
my Dad dead?  When did he die?"  So he is having serious memory issues, both 
recent and distant memory is involved.
 
Of course, he's seeing doctors and being tested, and they don't know what's 
going on with him.  He's been tested for Alzheimers, and they tell him he 
doesn't have it.  The doctors also tell him that this is not seizure-related -- 
my brother is an epileptic, and his seizures are controlled by medication.  
He's had brain scans and MRI's and no abnormalities are found.  They did find a 
small, non-malignant tumor on the brain, behind his left ear, but told him that 
is not life-threatening and is not involved in the memory issues.
 
So -- does anyone have any ideas about what could be going on with him?  Any 
help will be appreciated.
MA


  

CS>Pastor in the Ukraine who has Hep-C.

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

Debbie,
 
We got a distiller there and have found it good for the price and easy to clean 
and use.  The fan motor is grinding after only 3 months use and there is only a 
30 day warranty.   They will not even call back after the 30 days from 
purchase.  I have found that if I plug in the tank heater, place the 
fan/distilling mechanism on tip but do not plug it in and set a timer for 15 
minutes that the heat from the water apparently heats the fan motor bearings 
and it operates quietly when plug into the side of the distiller tank.  
 
Your pastor friend would need to be able to clean the unit of the concentrated 
water impurities after each distilling - I use vinegar in water and save the 
solution from use to use in a gallon jar until it gets murky, then pour the 
clear off the top until that also gets murky and then replace. I use a little 
soft scrubbie to finish the loosening and cleaning process, rinse 2 or 3 times 
and good to go for the next batch.  
 
You also need to find out the electric supply available as they can send a unit 
for 110 or 220 with the plug for the country you specify.  
 
I am overall pleased with our stainless steel exterior Love Distiller with the 
glass pitcher.  Hubby said stainless steel should hold up longer and better 
than any plastic.  They packed the glass pitcher inside the distiller boiler 
tank for shipping so it  made the trip well.  The factory box they shipped by 
UPS was a very flimsy double wall corrugated box which allowed damage to the 
side of our tank, but they quickly sent a replacement when I called and 
informed them of the damage.  
 
 I was also advised on this silver site to fill water tank to BELOW the fill 
line to prevent boiling water as well as steam from entering distiller coil, 
then to discard the first cup or so of distilled water due to chlorine and 
fluoride content, and also to stop the distillation process when there is still 
water in the tank to prevent the last steam from picking up the 
concentrated crud which you want left behind by the boiling/distillation 
process.  I pray your pastor friend will find health and healing through silver 
water!
 
Paula 



 
Wednesday, September 1, 2010 10:51 PM



From: 

"Garnet_LDN" 



To: 
silver-list@eskimo.com


www.wholesalewaterdistillers.com


Debbie Phelps wrote:
> We know a very poor pastor in the Ukraine who has Hep-C.  I would like to buy 
> him a generator, but then there's the question of what water is available to 
> use. He probably cannot buy good distilled water, so he will need his own 
> distiller.  What brand of distiller is good and reasonably priced?
> 
> Thanks.
> Debbie


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CS>Silver Generators

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

I absolutely appreciate my Silver Puppy from silverpuppy.com
 
Easy to use with great instructions, auto turn off or manual for higher than 15 
ppm, consistently clear brew and steadily improving health for both of us and 
for friends with whom we share our silver water. The choice of Silver Puppy was 
after MUCH consideration of what is available in the market place.  And as I 
was a newbie, I bought all the bells and whistles - generator, stirrer, CMO-100 
for reading the before and after approximate ppm, ring to adapt puppy 
generator to wide mouth jars, etc.  I would still all do that to satisfy my 
wanting to "do" everything I could to make an excellent silver brew.  Silver 
Puppy site has really thorough information so do not hurry through that 
site like I did - take time to smellall  the roses of invormation for us tha 
Ken has taken the time to cultivate and share..
 
Sincerely, Paula in Palacios
 
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Re: CS>Silver Generators
Wednesday, September 1, 2010 8:31 AM



From: 

martsmai...@aol.com



To: 
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Where do you recommend purchase of a silver ionic generator


  

CS>Silver-eskimo Processing of Information

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

Re: CS>[List Owner]Archive listing on web site...and Silver-eskimo Processing 
of Information
And I add an AMEN to third the motion!
 
 When I was thirsty, you fed me.  When I was needy, you gave me the information 
that I needed.  When I needed to communicate, you communicated with me both by 
listening and in sharing from your vast stores of incredible (and sometimes so 
over my head) knowledge.  I am totally amazed at the amount of valid 
information flowing from person to person on this site.  That personal touch is 
very good for some of us (ME) and a welcome part of the process.  Through that 
personal touch I have found other fantastic forums to join.  
 
Mike, I cannot thank you enough for sharing of yourself to start and keep this 
forum running.  I have learned about silver and slavers (how we can be tracked 
and monitored without our knowledge or awareness).  What I still lack is 
understanding (in very simple terms, guys and gals) of how to navigate the web 
for information without the exposures many of you have told us about.  
 
If anyone is up to the challenge of speaking to me in those very simple terms, 
I am ready to start making changes as I can feel in my heart the need to begin 
such a transition.  I need a step by step...you can do this and then you can do 
this and this email is good and this is how to get it and this is how to use it 
and this is what to avoid because of the tracking issues etc etc etc  Hey, 
maybe that would be a good off topic post..
 
Thanks Mike!  Keep up your standard of excellent  excellence!
 
 
Saturday, August 28, 2010 8:06 PM



From: 

"Sandy" 



To: 
silver-list@eskimo.com






I second that

--- On Sat, 8/28/10, Deborah Gerard  wrote:


From: Deborah Gerard 
Subject: Re: CS>[List Owner]Archive listing on web site...
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, August 28, 2010, 8:07 AM






I am amazed by people even beginning to complain about anything about this 
group.  The incredible knowledge given out "freely" here is priceless. If you 
don't like the way it is sent outjust go join a different group.
Deb



  

CS>Does CS work on a skin rash

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

My brain just kicked in with the possiblity that chlorine in the shower water 
might be causing the skin rash.  I had that problem for years and nobody knew 
what it was or how to treat something that was just bothersome but not a 
medically invasive problem.  First I had double carbon water filters on my 
shower arm and they were great, but expensive to replace.  More recently have 
graduated to this filter from Lowes.   
http://www.lowes.com/pd_123904-51915-SL-WH-R_0_?productId=3130199&Ntt=shower+filter&Ntk=i_products&pl=1¤tURL=/pl__0__s?newSearch=true$Ntt=shower  
 It only removes chlorine and it does that by converting it to chloride.  If 
memory serves correctly, it is KDF inside.  When mine needs changing, my hair 
gets very dry and my skin begins to itch even before I begin smelling 
chlorine.  

Fw: Re: CS>Does CS work on a skin rash
Re: CS>Does CS work on a skin rash
Sunday, August 08, 2010 11:55:32 AM
From: 
"" 
To: 
"" 
In a message dated 8/8/2010 12:34:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
jaxi.sch...@gmail.com writes:
Is the glycerine to thicken it?
>
Glycerin is to keep the skin from drying DMSO can cause skin to dry.  My 
son 
uses the mix on his legs---they get dry & break out in the summer...He just 
needs to put it on in the morning every two or three days...he does rinse his 
legs with distilled water to make sure the DMSO doesn't carry anything through 
the skin that isn't supposed to be there  ...
Fw: Re: CS>Does CS work on a skin rash
Re: CS>Does CS work on a skin rash
Sunday, August 08, 2010 3:10:38 PM
From: 
"M. G. Devour" 
To: 
"" 
> (why after a show?  What type of show and what would you be contacting
> there that you may be allergic to?)

Dear Renee,

I read that as "after a shower..." just 'cause it fit the overall
impression I had of Les' writing style.

Les,

I kinda think the comments about liver congestion might be on point.

Peace,

Mike D.

> ---Original Message---
>
>  Dose CS have any effect of skin ?  I’ve had a strange (benign) rash,
> starting a few years ago, on my upper arms then it progressed down each
> side of the torso and a bit in the groin area.  It sometimes is slightly
> raised but right now it’s fairly feint. It’s usually more pronounced
> after a show. It doesn’t itch – it’s just there.    I’ve consulted
> dermatologists in the UK and USA without success.  If I apply DMSO it
> seems to expose a lot more rash in otherwise clear areas but doesn’t
> reduce it.
>

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com                        ]
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CS>Multiple Sclerosis; infant acid reflux & Epilepsy

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

Carol,

May I ask what natural approaches you took regarding the epilepsy.  If we need 
to go to the off topic list that is fine, or even email me directly.  There is 
so much info out ther I do not know where to start or how to prioritize for 
hubby.  Since you have been ther and found an answer, could you share?  


Thanks and blessings from Paula in Palacios

Fw: Re: CS>Multiple Sclerosis; infant acid reflux
Re: CS>Multiple Sclerosis; infant acid reflux
Tuesday, July 20, 2010 8:38:03 PM
From: 
"carolG" 
To: 
"" 
Janet, thanks for your info., but if my arm was broken as you shared, I would 
go 
for manipulation and putting it back in the socket regardless of the treatment 
if that was the only option. However, knowing self I had severe torn ligaments 
years back, surely surgery for most, but chiro took time and totally healed and 
remains that way decades.

It's a choice and no judgment to anyone's choices, other than one need to be 
educated, if they desire, and then decide for themselves. My husband had 
EPILepsy confirmed, was on drugs for 10 days, but during my search alternatives 
was what we ended up doing.  Over 30+ years back and still healed.  No there is 
no cure for Epilepsy or MS or many other diseases I have heard, but I can say 
this worked and I know of others who had diseases and went alternative with 
victories.  I can't speak for all.  I believe diet is a big factor and also 
attitude.

I respect your position and not everyone would buy into my thinking. Glad we 
can 
share civilly without judgment. It's all about choices and then for some who 
want to dive into further education outside the doctor's views another choice 
for them.

Just sharing my perspective and not trying to beat anything to death.  Again, 
thanks for sharing.  I'm sure you will help many by your opinion as most tend 
to 
go towards drug route -- their choice.  


It is so confusing for most people to know the right choice as we are bombarded 
with this and that works...who knows...I can only research for hubby and self  
-- not even my adult kids who have infant acid reflux babies on drugsone 
has 
damaged vocal cords at a year sadly and hopefully a miracle will give him his 
vocal cords.  It was not the drugs, but wrong strength for the damaged vocal 
cords -- too weak for his condition...and then they let this innocent baby  cry 
when he woke up many times during the night probably because of burning to his 
cordsthey thought he was just wanting to stay upbad call on their part, 
but they don't seem to have any guilt as I would for sure.  I let them make 
their own choices and they go the drug route alwaysthey know my position, 
but I am not the parents...I'm cool with that...millions of kids have infant 
acid reflux...very epidemic too...
Best to ya and thanks.

carol






From: Garnet_LDN 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, July 20, 2010 7:17:07 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Multiple Sclerosis

Although Naltrexone is a drug, the site is not about drug treatment for MS. It 
is about how this
unique effect of blocking opioid receptors for 4-6 hours a day results in a 
rebound modulation of the immune system. There may also be effects on oxidative 
stress through Nitric Oxide and also DNA replication. The drug is a shift in 
paradigm. It increases Met-5-enkephaline which is natural and can be used, aka 
Opioid Growth Factor is costs $3,000 a month and does not have the full range 
of 
benefits.


Natural is good, but if you broke your arm would you allow it to heal naturally?

I'm not saying not to use natural means, many who take LDN do, and the doctors 
generally are holistic with an emphasis on diet and nutriceuticals.

Where there is sensible safe treatment it never hurts to investigate.


Janet

carolG wrote:
> Is site drug oriented for MS? There is great information for the non drug 
> users 
>and those wanting to go more natural. Just wanted people to be exposed to both 
>choices and it's really their choice once they have knowledge as it is power.
> 
> Thanks for sharing.
> 
> carol



  

CS>Shingles

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

My own experiences with shingles makes me believe that B complex vitamins might 
help with the nerve healing as I have had zero after pain although the scars 
from all the blisters are still very evidentten years later.  I took a good B 
complex twice daily during and for a long time after the initial horrible bout 
with shingles.  EIS/CS as not was available with either bout so I have no 
experience there.  The second time I caught it much sooner at the pain and 
tingles stage with Oreganol brand oregano oil orally every hour.  It stopped 
the 
all the pain and progression of the tingling less than a day.  Since I did not 
break out that second time I did not need to use oregano oil locally on the 
skin.  Now that this forum had educated me, I would definately use frequent 
dosing of EIS/CS for anything pathogenic that tries to take up residence as a 
front line choice. 


  

CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2010 #633

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

NO MESSAGE SHOWS





From: "silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com" 
To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 2:37:45 PM
Subject: silver-digest Digest V2010 #633


  

CS>Love 3 Distiller

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

Since we need good distilled water for brewing EIS/CS, I personally do not see 
this as an Off Topic question - if that is what the OT means. 
Per suggestions by others on this forum, we recently purchased the Love 3 Water 
Distiller with stainless steel exterior (per hubby's request and I am glad 
because there was no hot plastic smell during the distillation process)  and 
glass receptacle to minimize plastic contamination of the water (for personal 
health reasons).  The first Love 3 arrived with a big dent in the boiler 
portion.  The box was a double wall but seemed really soft.  We did not plug in 
that distiller, but rather called David (the generic guy who seems to run all 
the operations that sell the Love Distillers), and he promptly sent a 
replacement bottom/boiler.  By the time we actually talked with David we had 
already called UPS and reported the damage but UPS said that the shipper would 
have to also report it to get reimbursement.  I do not know if David did this 
or 
not as nobody ever asked for the dented boiler or the box.  We have now had the 
distiller about 2 weeks and are learning to use it according to seller 
instructions blended with the suggestions gleaned here.  The process is easy, 
if 
somewhat time consuming.  It takes about 3 1/2 to 4 hours to run a cycle to 
obtain about 3+ quarts of water - - -  if you discard the first cup or so (ask 
this forum why - chlorine and somethng else is mostly excreted into the first 
cup or so if memory serves me for a change).  Also someone on the forum said 
not 
to fill the water tank to the fill line as the boiling water can splash into 
the 
distillation system bringing contaminants with it.  I wonder if the "new" guard 
over the intake system eliminates this problem..? Anyone on the forum  
- 
HELP on this one.   Then it was also advised by forum members to not let it run 
entirely dry (which is when it turns itself off automatically) as this also 
leads to more contaminants making their way into the water produced by the 
distiller.  And do not use the charcoal filter -which means you just remove the 
little screen with a knife, pour out the charcoal pieces and attach the empty 
charcoal holder to the spout to get a consistently placed drip from the 
distiller into your container.  Then the corker is that to get REALLY pure 
water, one must achieve a clean distiller boiler tank again and then run the 
one 
time distilled water back through the whole above process for water that has 
near zero conductivity from contaminants.  This is a total of 8 hours of 
distillation time plus the time to moniter the production, clean the tank and 
change holding containers.  Hubby brought home a plug in timer and I am now 
setting it for 1/2 hour to get that first almost cup out into another glass 
pitcher I already had, then I reset the timer for 2 1/2 hours to get most of 
the 
remainder of the water in the tank distilled into the glass container.  The 
good 
news is - IT WORKS.  When I consider the larger distillers, I do not see how 
you 
could get them consistently clean enough to make the high quality water that 
makes such a difference in brewing silver water.  Now we know what Ode 
says about being able to  tell by the taste when you have made a really good 
silver brew.  WOW - there is a really good tasting difference.  We just hope we 
can get to the point where we achieve this fantastic brew more often.  We are 
running two rigs - one is a Silver Puppy with predetermined auto turn off and 
the other is a home made rig with #4 - 9 volt batteries.  We have gotten that 
fine taste a couple of times out of the home made rig, but have already gotten 
the finer than fine "CS" brew out of the puppy several times in the week or so 
we have had it.  We are still new to EIS/CS and because of all the bits and 
pieces of info that the experienced brewers share here, we are chugging along 
and happy while we go.  We hope you will be also.  Sorry to take so many words 
- 
it just felt OK to give you all that my little brain cells have acquired.  And 
now I hope other forum members will further educate and correct me on any 
issues 
of error or having room for improvement.  

 
Questions we have for the forum. About cleaning the boiler chamber of the 
distiller. ... How do various ones on this forum clean theirs and what do you 
use?  How do you rinse (once, twice, thrice etc &  just swish or wipe with 
cloth 
while rinsing???and with tap, then distilled or what?  Do you somehow clean the 
stainless steel underside of the fan portion of the Love distiller?  Any 
other hints or tricks?
 
Thanks and blessings from Paula in Palacios
 
From: 
"needling around" 
To: 
"" 
Hi,
I remember someone on the list talking about how much they liked there Love 
water distiller.  I went to research them for purchase and found there are 
several different models with widely varying prices.  If you have used a Love 
distiller would you share your experience?

CS>Brickley's New Knee

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

Brickey,

To do the knew knee replacement$, all the muscles must be relaxed enough for 
the surgeon to manipulate the old joint out and get the replacement into proper 
position.  With that kind of muscle relaxation the breathing muscles are 
essentially nonfunctioning.  So a tube sized to the patient's weight is 
lubricated with a water soluable anesthetizing lubricant and inserted through 
the mouth with the end going below the vocal cords.  There is even a little 
balloon circling the tube which is inflated to form an air tight seal so the 
anesthesia machine can sense how much air to introduce with each "breath" it 
gives the sleeping patient.  Some folks have no after effects from this 
intubation while others may have a minor sore throat for a few days.  Now that 
I know about EIS/CS I would take a spray bottle with me to spray a little 
before surgery and several times afterwards also.  I hope this was not too 
graphic.  If it was me, I would want as much info
 as possible - for reassurance and to figure out the post operative feelings 
also.  
I pray you have as much relief as my father got from his knee replacement at 
age 79.  He awoke saying "It doesn't hurt anymore"  and later explained that 
the intensity of the over 40 years of pain was "just gone" even though there 
was postoperative pain.  He spent two days instead of a week in rehab and was 
determined to get that leg fully functional again - -  and I am glad to say 
that he did!  He was literally a different person for the rest of his life.  
And I had a Daddy who could converse and share instead of fighting the pain.  
It was wonderful for him and for us, his family.

If I were having ANY surgery I would probably spray full body with EIS/CS a few 
times a day before surgery to lower the number of skin bacteria and then keep 
spraying after the operation as much as possible to thwart any hospital 
acquired infection.  Just be careful not to saturate the dressing or get the 
wound soaked if they tell you to keep it dry.  I have a very fine mist sprayer 
that barely wets the skin.  That kind would probably be best in the wound area 
until you are allowed to get the wound wet in the shower.  Hubby is reminding 
me that the smaller the bottle, usually the finer the mist.  We have a 2 ounce 
and I tightened the 8 ounce adjustable spray to a very fine mist also.

Blessing to YOU BRINKEY !  We pray that every act and action toward you before, 
during and after surgery will be to your best interest and contribute to your 
health.

Paula and Leon

Fw: Re: CS>Hospital stay
Re: CS>Hospital stay
Sunday, July 04, 2010 8:34:24 PM
From: 
"needling around" 
To: 
"" 
Hi Brickey,
I have had many orthopedic surgeries and they intubated me for all of them... 
even for the non ortho surgeries.  It is my understanding they intubate 
everyone under general anesthesia.
PT
- Original Message - 
>From: brick...@aol.com 
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
>Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 8:11 PM
>Subject: Re: CS>Hospital stay
>
>In a message dated 7/3/2010 5:32:45 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
>day.sut...@gmail.com writes:
>You still have time to check out Prolotherapy
>My son works at a large Naval Base and one of the workers told him that if 
>Prolotherapy fails and the person then proceeds with surgery the bones become 
>brittle and can fracture. Prolotherapy has a high failure rate like 30%. At my 
>age 78 I am near the age where my DR would not do the surgery. He had two 
>other DR's agree that I was OK for this surgery. He requested that both DR's 
>be present during the surgery. I have Asthma, sleep apnea and COPD. A lady who 
>just had surgery with similar problems said they kept her airway open during 
>the surgery by putting a hose down her throat. 
>
>Dee this DR is of English decent and is a direct descendent of the General who 
>conquered Scotland and deported my cousins to the colonies like America. 
>
>Brickey


  

CS>Ring Worm - Neem Oil

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

Joy,

NEEM Oil is fungicide, miticide, bacteriocidal and so very emolliant and 
soothing.  I purchase Green Light at the feed store for around $14 for about a 
pint.  We keep a quart spray bottle of about 1/4 cup neem and filled with pure 
water.  Just spray or otherwise wet the affected and surrounding areas.  

http://www.everydaysolutionsrx.com/ringworm/

It is no longer labeled "ALL Organic" but now "for Organic Gardening".    When 
I called Green Light about the "other ingredients" and was told they are all 
other oils to help the Neem disperse in water.  I am VERY chemically sensitive 
and the Neem has never bothered me in any way except making my skin softer and 
stopp itchiness in the winter.  I have used it full strength on bites and on my 
cats when they get in a scrape with an invading feline.  The per rescue home 
here in our small town now uses Neem and I am supplying CS for topical use and 
in their water with great results being reported. 

I hope  and pray your little feline friend will regain healthy skin soon.

Paula


From: 
"Dorothy Fitzpatrick" 
To: 
"" 
I think you need to mix CS with DMSO to get the penetration you need.  dee

On 4 Jul 2010, at 13:24, beitharmony wrote:

> Hi,
> My cat has ringworm, everything I've tried has not succeeded. Maybe my CS is 
> not strong enough. Now she has 2 patches on her neck. I need a solution quick 
> because she's going mad with the itching - as soon as it has only begun 
> healing - she digs in again. An E collar won't help as she goes outside. Been 
> there done that. Is there SUPER DUPER HEAVY DUTY CS for sale by anyone here 
> that people can vouch for? Because you just might have a customer.
> 
> Joy
> 


  

CS>Apology

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

Sorry Paula, I did not read enough or have enough brain cells to connect the 
chigger Mama posts to "Paula".   Please forgive me.

Hope hubby recovers his sanity soon.  CS to his scratching irritations will 
help prevent secondary infection.  We keep some CS in a spray bottle to cover 
and wet larger areas.  

I looked up the Itch Stick that Ode mentioned and it is a muy bland version of 
the disolved Benadryl/diphenhydramine I described.  

At 06:44 AM 6/22/2010 -0400, you wrote:


>My husband came home from a trip with a nasty bunch of chigger bites all 
>over. Anyone know of a remedy? Thanks,
>Paula



  

CS>CS - Chiggers -local antihistamine - ant bites etc

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

Fw: Re: CS>chiggers

OK, time for my 2 cents worth.  Edith, if your husband hyper releases histamine 
like I do a combination of all the suggestions previously offered will probably 
all help in some aspect AND you might break open a few capsules or dissolve 
tablets of diphenhydramine (Benadryl or generic) in as little water as possible 
duh how about in a little CS? --- and dab on the itchies - frequently---and 
repeatedly.  This will help the histamine response only, but it does wonders 
for bites.  I wonder how DMSO could figure in the mix as it might give better 
penetration and would also help the body resolve the inflammation process more 
rapidly.  I like this local application of a super concentration antihistamine 
because it acts thoroughly and rapidly .and I don't have to nap all day 
from oral antihistamine.

Further FYI - I also use white toothpaste on ant bites as soon as they happen, 
just smear a gob over the whole area and all the stinging stops as well as 
preventing the red,itchy pustules.  We keep several tubes from the dollar store 
around the house and grab quickly if we or the grandkids inadvertently get into 
those stinging red ants.  Works every time.  If there are many, many bites you 
may need to apply the toothpaste, rub in well then wipe off with a wet cloth or 
under the faucet outside and apply a second coat of the white tooth paste.  Ant 
bites feel worse than wasp stings to my hyper reactive self and the toothpaste 
really works on the pain as well as the sequale.  

OK, Ode, ...Why does the toothpaste and could add CS to the toothpaste mix here 
to keep on topic...and would the CS further neutralize the bite reaction?  Is 
the bite "acid" and the calcium "alkaline" and penetrating like the ant venom 
to be able to neutralize it so quickly?  Huh?  Huh?  Huh?

To all the other CS'ers.  Thanks for all the thought provocations, laughs and 
CS info, especially the CS info as I am still very much in the initial learning 
curve and ya'll are awesome in your knowledge and ability to answer 
questions!    

We are each a unique creation! Vive la différence.

Paula in Palacios
Re: CS>chiggers
Wednesday, June 23, 2010 4:42:50 AM
From: 
"Ode Coyote" 
To: 
"" 
They aren't there TO suffocate.
Chiggers bite, get their nutrients and leave.

Epsom salt bath sounds likely..I'll keep than one in the file.

Chiggers do not burrow under your skin, as many people believe, nor do they 
feed on animal blood. They actually feed on the fluids in skin cells. To get 
the fluids, they attach themselves to a skin pore or hair follicle and inject a 
digestive enzyme that ruptures the cells. The enzyme also hardens the 
surrounding skin tissue, forming a sort of straw for sucking the skin cell 
fluids. The whole process irritates the skin, causing an itchy red bump that 
continues to cause discomfort for several days. Chiggers are only about 1/50th 
of an inch (0.5 mm) in diameter and so are too small to be seen with the naked 
eye. This invisibility is the reason so many people believe chiggers burrow 
under the skin.

One commonly known remedy for chigger bites is to apply nail polish to reduce 
itchiness. This does not kill the chigger or treat the bite in any way. It 
simply seals the area off from the air, which keeps the sore from itching so 
badly. If you want to apply something to relieve itching, it's much better to 
use a salve or cream that contains antihistamines (Caladryl or hydrocortisone 
salves are the most common). Like nail polish, these treatments will seal the 
bite from the surrounding air, but they will also help to prevent infection. If 
the welts continue to irritate you for more than a couple of weeks, they might 
be infected and you should see a doctor.


Ode


At 09:05 AM 6/22/2010 -0400, you wrote:
> brush a little clear nail polish on each one.  They will suffocate..
> 
> On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 8:51 AM, 
> <ejohns9...@aol.com> wrote:
> In a message dated 6/22/2010 5:45:09 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
> p...@zoomnet.net writes:
> My husband came home from a trip with a nasty bunch of chigger bites all 
> over. Anyone know of a remedy? Thanks,
> Paula
> Soak in a tub of  warm/hot water with 3 cups Epsom salt added for at least 20 
> minutes.  This even works for poison ivy but you may have to do it 2 or 3 
> days.
> 
> Edith
> 


  

CS>OOPS

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

OK, sorry. After I posted my peroxide question I went back to edumacate myself 
some more and found the H2O2 answer - - -  Adding 1 drop 3% Hydrogen Peroxide 
per 4-8 oz to colored CS breaks the particles apart and clears out the color.  
Thanks Ode!


  

CS>On Topic & Online Questions Begging For CS Answers

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

I'm rather new CS/ESI maker and new to the "silver list" also.  I've posted 
twice and got a really good response on one post and no response on the second 
post, but it was about the time of website malfunctions so I do not know if 
someone answered or not.  
 
As I watch the posts of these very learned and very informed people banter with 
one another and give copoius amounts of off topic information, I have to wonder 
where I could maybe find answers to the questions I have on the 
just-now-learning end of things.  But God is good and I'm tooling along making 
and sharing my batches of silver water AND most importantly am watching my own 
health improve week by week, even as my processing is being refined.
 
So thanks, Dick, for voicing your frustrations BUT if you are like me, you just 
might learn a thing or three reading all those off topic posts.  
 
Now to you incredible regulars - Pretty please have some patience with what are 
old news questions to you and kindly repeat information you have written about 
a hundred times because we would not ask if we already had the answer, or had 
been able to find it in the archives (yes, I finally figured that one out!) or 
elsewhere.  Also please remember we are not all like you and may take a 
differnt path including some repitition in our pathway of learning, and that is 
what can make life so very interesting and sweeter still.  
 
Thanks Ode for your kind and ultra informative response to my first 
post.  Today we ordered a Love3 water distiller and hope it will hold up better 
than some of the complaints lodged against it online.  I have adjusted my 
timing on the brewing and am now stopping as soon as I get a TE.  The 
brew still has a slight metallic taste and knocked a terrible summer virus 
right out in about 12 hours last weekend - and I have a very compromised immune 
system so that rapid recovery is a near miracle in my book.  
 
I still have questions about the CS generators other folks on this forum are 
using.  We are still at the home made from online instruction stage and want to 
improve the quality of the CS.  How about a role call with your favorite or 
most dependable generator heading the listand why?  I'm leaning toward 
Ode's yet I would like to hear other comments too before we make our purchase 
next month.  Ode - can yours make batches larger than 1 quart?  If it is 
limited to 1 quart, how must the jar be cleaned between uses?
 
Question?  If I remember correctly, it is best to wait two days after brewing 
CS to add H2O2 - but would someone be kind and tell again how many drops H2O2 
per quart of CS solution? and is that drugstore 3% or diluted to 3% food grade 
H2O2 that shoul be used?  (And please forgive me if this info was posted and I 
failed to see or record it? OK?) Thanks also Ode for having such good, easily 
understood info on your website as it is helping solidify all this information 
in my little old brain. I used several drops H2O2 in a fresh brewed quart 
several weeks ago and the CS solution clouded up.  So that batch went in a 
sprayer to become disinfectant and eye glass cleaner.  Worked great!
 
The different ways to use the different colored solutions makes sense and has 
helped.
 
I am VERY thankful for this forum as I am learning so much and am adjusting my 
actions accordingly.   THANK YOU ALL, or as in Texas ...THANKS YA'LL !
 
Forwarded Message: CS>Silver List, or what?



CS>Silver List, or what?
Tuesday, June 8, 2010 7:43 PM



From: 

"Dick Rochon" 



To: 
silver-list@eskimo.com


Is this a silver list, or what? I see every kind of post imaginable, but seldom 
one on Colloidal Silver, and reports of successful usage. Is anyone monitoring 
this list? I'm am thinking that the silver people have gone somewhere else. A 
week, or more, I postd a question about brown CS, but not one answer?

Disappointed,

Dick



  

CS>Water Distiller for CS

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

OK you Wise Ones, I'm not super swift in action, yet I will get there, but only 
with your help. 
 
Previously on this site it was noted that home steam distilled water was better 
for making CS/EIS than bottled and that several of you liked your Love 
distiller.
 
Question - Which model Love?  Possibly the Model 4 with full stainless steel 
interior and glass collection jar?
 
>From whom did you purchase your Love or other distiller?  
 
How long have you used it without problem?
 
Has it functioned well?
 
Do you use only for CS/EIS or for drinking water needs also?
 
If you had a problem with a Love, did your dealer assist appropriately?
 
Thanks you ALL for your illustrious info and incredible attitudes I am gleaning 
from this adventurous group.
 
Paula 
 
    
   
 



  

CS>Further Newbie Inquiries

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

 
> Questions from a newbie.
> 
> Can those of you who distill your own water for CS generation share the water 
> distiller you have found to produce really good colloidal silver and the 
> economical place or way to purchase? I am shopping for a distiller and it is 
> a real zoo if you have no contact with people who have actually used 
> distillers..

## The LOVE table top distillers are quite popular and inexpensive
+++What specific model do you have? Would you purchase that model again? If you 
want a different model, which one? Do you use the water for making CS only or 
for drinking and cooking also? Do you double distill, running the same water 
through twice?

> 
> How does one truly know when to stop the CS generating process?

## Use a conductivity meter or a circuit that monitors conductivity and 
references it to voltage drop while keeping current constant
+++ OK, I'm essentially conductivity meter illiterate, although I do have one 
and use it in rudimentary fashion in the process we are presently 
employingso what numbers am I looking for and when in the process am I 
looking for those numbers?

> Approximately what ppm is present when the Tyndale effect is first noted?

## Entirely variable but ideally around 13 uS conductivity..conditions are 
almost never ideal.
+++ Thanks, that is what is happening although another earlier source said to 
brew the CS all the way to 36, at which point we had a dark amber muddy mess 
(which we are using as topical spray on skin). 

> 
> Will an aquarium air bubbler really decrease the conductivity of the water to 
> produce smaller particle CS?


## Depends on how much air you bubble as it actually raises conductivity with 
the formation of Carbonic Acid made when CO2 is exposed to waterSilver 
Carbonate is not very soluble,will increase the TE and be photo reactive. 
[turns grey when exposed to light]
If you use a bubbler, just a few bubbles per second is plenty to do the job of 
stirring without altering the water so much.
+++ Thanks - that rules out an apparently very popular CS generator with its 
nervous bubbler. Do you stir your CS while brewing? Do you have some sort of 
stirrer that maintains motion throughout the brewing process? Is the stirrer 
homemade or purchased? If purchased, brand and model or if homemade - HOW???

> 
> Do different types of laser lights show a Tyndale effect at different ppm?

## TE has very little to do with PPM You can use it as an idea to fudge a 
conductivity reading up or down to account for the presence of unmeasurable 
particles as a small portion of the total silver.
+++ I see, well sorta. This may take a while to sink into this retired brain!

> 
> Is there any way to determine the particle size of home brew CS?

## You can sorta "eyeball" it with a laser. "Velvety " appearance indicates 
that your eye can't differentiate between photon streams from particles that 
are narrower than the eyes resolution capabilities, even as a round cylinder 
full of water acts like a strong magnifying glass.
It can tell you when to decant, leaving the larger particles on the bottom.
+++ WOW Thanks for the description - we monitered more closely and can see the 
difference between "velvety" and what we labled "swimmy".

> Does anyone use a ppm meter and if so which one and what does it really tell 
> you AND is it really necessary?

## No meter measures PPM, they all work with conductivity...so get a 
conductivity meter and cut out one layer of error.
+++ Thanks for the heads up on this fact also!

Ode
 
+++ OK. Next set of questions.
+++Do ya'll just piece this info together or is there a reference online that 
covers what you have found works for making CS?
+++Did you make your generator or purchase?
+++If purchased - which one and would you purchase that one again?
+++If home made, what materials did you employ and how is it rigged? (If you 
would be so kind to share the info - hubby does the electronics and I do the 
communicating - so this info would not be lost in a black hole.)
NOW A BIG THANK YOU JUST FOR READING THIS AND A HOPE THAT THOSE OF YOU FURTHER 
ALONG IN THIS PROCESS WILL HAVE SOME COMPASSION AND PATIENCE TO HELP US GET A 
BETTER UNDERSTANDING AND THEN BETTER CS! THANK YOU from Paula


> 
> We have been generating CS for about a month and are both taking several tsp 
> daily of the home brew CS with some pretty amazingly good results of more 
> energy, fewer pottly trips at night, better sleep quality, more energy, and 
> faster rebound from environmental (read that chemical) stressors.
> 
> Thanks to all of you for this group and the diversity of the input. It is 
> good to see that the OT group is becoming more active so the CS purists can 
> pursue CS topics.
> 
> Thanks from Paula.
> 
> "So if the Son sets you free, you will be absolutely free". John 8:36


  

CS>Newbie Questions

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

Questions from a newbie.  
 
Can those of you who distill your own water for CS generation share the water 
distiller you have found to produce really good colloidal silver and the 
economical place or way to purchase?  I am shopping for a distiller and it is a 
real zoo if you have no contact with people who have actually used distillers..
 
How does one truly know when to stop the CS generating process?  Approximately 
what ppm is present when the Tyndale effect is first noted?  
 
Will an aquarium air bubbler really decrease the conductivity of the water to 
produce smaller particle CS?
 
Do different types of laser lights show a Tyndale effect at different ppm?
 
Is there any way to determine the particle size of home brew CS?  Does anyone 
use a ppm meter and if so which one and what does it really tell you AND is it 
really necessary?
 
We have been generating CS for about a month and are both taking several tsp 
daily of the home brew CS with some pretty amazingly good results of more 
energy, fewer pottly trips at night, better sleep quality, more energy, and 
faster rebound from environmental (read that chemical) stressors.
 
Thanks to all of you for this group and the diversity of the input.  It is good 
to see that the OT group is becoming more active so the CS purists can pursue 
CS topics.
 
Thanks from Paula.   
 
"So if the Son sets you free, you will be absolutely free". John 8:36


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From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com 
Subject: silver-digest Digest V2010 #485
To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, May 6, 2010, 10:38 AM