Re: CS>20 mule team BORAX -- Please Help

2007-06-18 Thread Bruce Anderson

I hope this helps.
Bruce

Found  DaddyBobs email on Boraxsee below.

SS

> I've used CMO for years now and have reported what it has done for me
> several times.
>
> Now if you really want that relief to go into high gear, get Boron into
> your
> diet. It will do things that CMO won't, and the two together are a 
one-two

> punch against arthritis.
>
> But to stay on the topic of CS- it was MSM that gave me my first real
> arthritis relief, but the whole time I took it, I could feel the pain
> seething underneath like a caged animal, and if I didn't take massive
> doses
> of MSM, the animal lashed out. CS is what stopped all that. Just a few
> weeks
> of taking a pint daily of CS stopped all my seething chronic pain back in
> 2000.
>
> When you have been badly damaged by whatever cause of arthritis, no 
matter
> how you may rid yourself of the cause, you are left with 
osteo-arthritis.

> That's where CMO and Boron really make a difference.
>
> To test this for your self cheap and easy...and I ask anyone reading this
> not to jump to conclusions and start flaming me about it*...start 
dipping

> a
> wet fingertip, up to the first joint, into BORAX (yes 20 Mule Team Borax)
> and lick it off, at least once a day, going up to perhaps 4 times a day
> until you get the relief you need. The first thing you may notice is that
> the finger you use may start to feel better.
>
> *Borax is mined out of the ground and is perfectly edible, despite being
> sold as a laundry cleaner complete with warnings not to eat it because
> They
> (The Powers That Be) don't want you to know how effective it is. TOO 
much,

> as in spoonfuls, is poisonous, but what won't kill you if you take TOO
> much?
>
> If you're squeamish about doing it that way, then get yourself a boron
> supplement. I will not entertain arguments from
> non-supplement-get-it-all-from
-food freaks. You cannot get enough boron
> that
> way to get this ball rolling if you have severe arthritis. Forget it. I
> personally am now using Twin Labs Tri-Boron. Most people on this list are
> not of that extreme mindset anyway, since CS is definitely not available
> as
> food.
>
> Daddybob
>



Meggan Gaumer wrote:
Bruce, I was scanning this conversation but am unable to tell if you 
got your answer. my mom is very interested in trying this, so if you 
did get your answer and I missed it somehow, could you possibly 
forward it to me.

thanks
Meg'gan
mlgst...@gmail.com 

 
On 6/13/07, *Bruce Anderson* > wrote:


Greetings all:
Again I turn to the members pf the Silver List for help.
I have gone through all my saved mail and can not find and can not
find
the mail I thought I had saved on Boron/Borax.

From memory, Daddy Bob,  I think said to wet the index finger to the
first joint from the tip, stick it into the borax and lick it off.
I don't remember how often to do this or how long before results.

Also, the 20 MULE TEAM BORAX I bought was made by DIAL corp. and has a
warning: "CAUTION: Contains sodium tetraborate decahydrate.  Avoid
contact with eyes.  Do not take internally."
Have I got the wrong product or is this a pharma scare tactic?

Best regards;
Bruce A.







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Re: CS>20 mule team BORAX -- Please Help

2007-06-15 Thread Meggan Gaumer

Bruce, I was scanning this conversation but am unable to tell if you got
your answer. my mom is very interested in trying this, so if you did get
your answer and I missed it somehow, could you possibly forward it to me.
thanks
Meg'gan
mlgst...@gmail.com


On 6/13/07, Bruce Anderson  wrote:


Greetings all:
Again I turn to the members pf the Silver List for help.
I have gone through all my saved mail and can not find and can not find
the mail I thought I had saved on Boron/Borax.

From memory, Daddy Bob,  I think said to wet the index finger to the
first joint from the tip, stick it into the borax and lick it off.
I don't remember how often to do this or how long before results.

Also, the 20 MULE TEAM BORAX I bought was made by DIAL corp. and has a
warning: "CAUTION: Contains sodium tetraborate decahydrate.  Avoid
contact with eyes.  Do not take internally."
Have I got the wrong product or is this a pharma scare tactic?

Best regards;
Bruce A.





Re: CS>20 mule team BORAX -- Please Help

2007-06-14 Thread dd611
That's interesting because from the previous posts I was thinking it may 
be a good idea to dissolve borax in water and spray it over the garden 
so that the veggies will come to be rich in boron. But if it burns grass 
that may not be such a good idea??

Dennis

Clayton Family wrote:
One thing about the toxicity of boron and miners: the miners at US 
Borax were healthy, and stayed that way, unlike most other types of 
mines. The open pit there is so big it is incredible, and they use 
explosives, so the dust is everywhere, and you breathe it while there. 
Some of the minerals are fibrous, so that is bad, but still the miners 
did not get lung disease- that may be due to it's water solubility. 
The miners are still encouraged to use safe practices, but I did not 
see anyone with a mask on while I was there. Maybe the guys down at 
the bottom in all the dust, but they had sealed cabs in the trucks.


That being said, it is possible to get too much of it, and it can be 
toxic even in the doses one would get if using it to clean everything 
in the home. I remember some of the women that helped me with the mold 
issues said to be careful to use gloves if borax is all you use for 
cleaning ( it does a great job on mold).


I am not sure how persistant it is the the human body, but it can be 
used to kill a lawn weed called "creeping charlie", if applied in the 
spring before it grows much- it can be persistant in the soil and if 
it builds up too much, it can kill the grass. You can't apply it every 
year. That may be a clue.



On Jun 13, 2007, at 9:34 PM, Bruce Anderson wrote:


Greetings all:
Again I turn to the members pf the Silver List for help.
I have gone through all my saved mail and can not find and can not 
find the mail I thought I had saved on Boron/Borax.


From memory, Daddy Bob,  I think said to wet the index finger to the 
first joint from the tip, stick it into the borax and lick it off.

I don't remember how often to do this or how long before results.

Also, the 20 MULE TEAM BORAX I bought was made by DIAL corp. and has 
a warning: "CAUTION: Contains sodium tetraborate decahydrate.  Avoid 
contact with eyes.  Do not take internally."

Have I got the wrong product or is this a pharma scare tactic?

Best regards;
Bruce A.




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Re: CS>20 mule team BORAX -- Please Help

2007-06-14 Thread Clayton Family
One thing about the toxicity of boron and miners: the miners at US 
Borax were healthy, and stayed that way, unlike most other types of 
mines. The open pit there is so big it is incredible, and they use 
explosives, so the dust is everywhere, and you breathe it while there. 
Some of the minerals are fibrous, so that is bad, but still the miners 
did not get lung disease- that may be due to it's water solubility. The 
miners are still encouraged to use safe practices, but I did not see 
anyone with a mask on while I was there. Maybe the guys down at the 
bottom in all the dust, but they had sealed cabs in the trucks.


That being said, it is possible to get too much of it, and it can be 
toxic even in the doses one would get if using it to clean everything 
in the home. I remember some of the women that helped me with the mold 
issues said to be careful to use gloves if borax is all you use for 
cleaning ( it does a great job on mold).


I am not sure how persistant it is the the human body, but it can be 
used to kill a lawn weed called "creeping charlie", if applied in the 
spring before it grows much- it can be persistant in the soil and if it 
builds up too much, it can kill the grass. You can't apply it every 
year. That may be a clue.



On Jun 13, 2007, at 9:34 PM, Bruce Anderson wrote:


Greetings all:
Again I turn to the members pf the Silver List for help.
I have gone through all my saved mail and can not find and can not 
find the mail I thought I had saved on Boron/Borax.


From memory, Daddy Bob,  I think said to wet the index finger to the 
first joint from the tip, stick it into the borax and lick it off.

I don't remember how often to do this or how long before results.

Also, the 20 MULE TEAM BORAX I bought was made by DIAL corp. and has a 
warning: "CAUTION: Contains sodium tetraborate decahydrate.  Avoid 
contact with eyes.  Do not take internally."

Have I got the wrong product or is this a pharma scare tactic?

Best regards;
Bruce A.




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Re: CS>20 mule team BORAX -- Please Help

2007-06-14 Thread Marshall Dudley

Silver Smith wrote:

Found  DaddyBobs email on Boraxsee below.

SS


This is an interesting article on boron for arthritis.

http://www.glucosamine-arthritis.org/glucosamine/boron-arthritis.html

Marshall


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Re: CS>20 mule team BORAX -- Please Help

2007-06-14 Thread Rowena
I think this is probably cover the rear stuff.  We warned you.  Don't blame 
us.  We told them not to.

Some people will overdo anything.

Do an internet search using words borax Carnarvon arthritis to find and read 
the story of the Australian arthritis/borax discovery and the  boron pill 
saga.

Rowena


Also, the 20 MULE TEAM BORAX I bought was made by DIAL corp. and has a
warning: "CAUTION: Contains sodium tetraborate decahydrate.  Avoid
contact with eyes.  Do not take internally."
Have I got the wrong product or is this a pharma scare tactic?

Best regards;
Bruce A.


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Re: CS>20 mule team BORAX -- Please Help

2007-06-14 Thread Rowena
When I first started using Borax I did the Hulda Clark thing, using it for 
all cleaning and washing, handwashing, though not bath, as I used Epsom 
salts for that.
Maybe because my skin care is minimal, I found that using it instead of soap 
gave me deep cracks around the sides of my fingernails.  Now that would 
probably amount to overuse, but I wonder whether perhaps it is a bit too 
much of a degreaser for some people?

So I would be more nervous of using it in the bath than swallowing it.  I 
put it in our water container so that after reverse osmosis filtering the 
water gets to absorb borax, a bit of epsom salts, and some MSM.  It's not a 
medicinal level of any, probably, and I don't put them in every time, but at 
least we get them sometimes.

I then made my own soap, and used that for handwashing and discontinued the 
borax, though I still use it for cleaning (with rubber gloves) and the 
dishwasher.  It is not so good for stainless steel in the dishwasher, but 
it's nice to know it is not caustic in the machine.  I hot rinse off the 
plates before putting them in, so the dishwasher is kind of a big rinse and 
dry machine and doesn't get much in the way of food particles and grease.

Rowena



I wonder if bathing in the Borax would be a good alternative for those with 
arthritis, who maybe squeamish about eating it?  Just curious.  Thanks 


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Re: CS>20 mule team BORAX -- Please Help

2007-06-13 Thread Carl Deb Charter
 I wonder if bathing in the Borax would be a good alternative for those with 
arthritis, who maybe squeamish about eating it?  Just curious.  Thanks
  - Original Message - 
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  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 10:01 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>20 mule team BORAX -- Please Help


  Found  DaddyBobs email on Boraxsee below.

  SS

  > I've used CMO for years now and have reported what it has done for me
  > several times.
  >
  > Now if you really want that relief to go into high gear, get Boron into 
  > your
  > diet. It will do things that CMO won't, and the two together are a one-two
  > punch against arthritis.
  >
  > But to stay on the topic of CS- it was MSM that gave me my first real
  > arthritis relief, but the whole time I took it, I could feel the pain
  > seething underneath like a caged animal, and if I didn't take massive
  > doses
  > of MSM, the animal lashed out. CS is what stopped all that. Just a few 
  > weeks
  > of taking a pint daily of CS stopped all my seething chronic pain back in
  > 2000.
  >
  > When you have been badly damaged by whatever cause of arthritis, no matter
  > how you may rid yourself of the cause, you are left with osteo-arthritis. 
  > That's where CMO and Boron really make a difference.
  >
  > To test this for your self cheap and easy...and I ask anyone reading this
  > not to jump to conclusions and start flaming me about it*...start dipping 
  > a
  > wet fingertip, up to the first joint, into BORAX (yes 20 Mule Team Borax)
  > and lick it off, at least once a day, going up to perhaps 4 times a day 
  > until you get the relief you need. The first thing you may notice is that
  > the finger you use may start to feel better.
  >
  > *Borax is mined out of the ground and is perfectly edible, despite being 
  > sold as a laundry cleaner complete with warnings not to eat it because
  > They
  > (The Powers That Be) don't want you to know how effective it is. TOO much,
  > as in spoonfuls, is poisonous, but what won't kill you if you take TOO 
  > much?
  >
  > If you're squeamish about doing it that way, then get yourself a boron
  > supplement. I will not entertain arguments from
  > non-supplement-get-it-all-from
  -food freaks. You cannot get enough boron
  > that
  > way to get this ball rolling if you have severe arthritis. Forget it. I
  > personally am now using Twin Labs Tri-Boron. Most people on this list are
  > not of that extreme mindset anyway, since CS is definitely not available 
  > as
  > food.
  >
  > Daddybob
  >



  On 6/13/07, Bruce Anderson  wrote: 
Greetings all:
Again I turn to the members pf the Silver List for help.
I have gone through all my saved mail and can not find and can not find 
the mail I thought I had saved on Boron/Borax.

From memory, Daddy Bob,  I think said to wet the index finger to the
first joint from the tip, stick it into the borax and lick it off.
I don't remember how often to do this or how long before results. 

Also, the 20 MULE TEAM BORAX I bought was made by DIAL corp. and has a
warning: "CAUTION: Contains sodium tetraborate decahydrate.  Avoid
contact with eyes.  Do not take internally."
Have I got the wrong product or is this a pharma scare tactic? 

Best regards;
Bruce A.


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Re: CS>20 mule team BORAX -- Please Help

2007-06-13 Thread Silver Smith

Found  DaddyBobs email on Boraxsee below.

SS


I've used CMO for years now and have reported what it has done for me
several times.

Now if you really want that relief to go into high gear, get Boron into
your
diet. It will do things that CMO won't, and the two together are a one-two
punch against arthritis.

But to stay on the topic of CS- it was MSM that gave me my first real
arthritis relief, but the whole time I took it, I could feel the pain
seething underneath like a caged animal, and if I didn't take massive
doses
of MSM, the animal lashed out. CS is what stopped all that. Just a few
weeks
of taking a pint daily of CS stopped all my seething chronic pain back in
2000.

When you have been badly damaged by whatever cause of arthritis, no matter
how you may rid yourself of the cause, you are left with osteo-arthritis.
That's where CMO and Boron really make a difference.

To test this for your self cheap and easy...and I ask anyone reading this
not to jump to conclusions and start flaming me about it*...start dipping
a
wet fingertip, up to the first joint, into BORAX (yes 20 Mule Team Borax)
and lick it off, at least once a day, going up to perhaps 4 times a day
until you get the relief you need. The first thing you may notice is that
the finger you use may start to feel better.

*Borax is mined out of the ground and is perfectly edible, despite being
sold as a laundry cleaner complete with warnings not to eat it because
They
(The Powers That Be) don't want you to know how effective it is. TOO much,
as in spoonfuls, is poisonous, but what won't kill you if you take TOO
much?

If you're squeamish about doing it that way, then get yourself a boron
supplement. I will not entertain arguments from
non-supplement-get-it-all-from-food freaks. You cannot get enough boron
that
way to get this ball rolling if you have severe arthritis. Forget it. I
personally am now using Twin Labs Tri-Boron. Most people on this list are
not of that extreme mindset anyway, since CS is definitely not available
as
food.

Daddybob




On 6/13/07, Bruce Anderson  wrote:


Greetings all:
Again I turn to the members pf the Silver List for help.
I have gone through all my saved mail and can not find and can not find
the mail I thought I had saved on Boron/Borax.

From memory, Daddy Bob,  I think said to wet the index finger to the
first joint from the tip, stick it into the borax and lick it off.
I don't remember how often to do this or how long before results.

Also, the 20 MULE TEAM BORAX I bought was made by DIAL corp. and has a
warning: "CAUTION: Contains sodium tetraborate decahydrate.  Avoid
contact with eyes.  Do not take internally."
Have I got the wrong product or is this a pharma scare tactic?

Best regards;
Bruce A.


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CS>20 mule team BORAX -- Please Help

2007-06-13 Thread Bruce Anderson

Greetings all:
Again I turn to the members pf the Silver List for help.
I have gone through all my saved mail and can not find and can not find 
the mail I thought I had saved on Boron/Borax.


From memory, Daddy Bob,  I think said to wet the index finger to the 
first joint from the tip, stick it into the borax and lick it off.

I don't remember how often to do this or how long before results.

Also, the 20 MULE TEAM BORAX I bought was made by DIAL corp. and has a 
warning: "CAUTION: Contains sodium tetraborate decahydrate.  Avoid 
contact with eyes.  Do not take internally."

Have I got the wrong product or is this a pharma scare tactic?

Best regards;
Bruce A.


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