Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[James Osbourne Holmes]

Is colloidal gold being successfully used to treat RA?
Hi Mike, et allong time no see.

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On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 11:00 AM Jean Baugh 
wrote:

> lia
>
> On Jun 17, 2019, at 12:20 AM, Dan Nave  wrote:
>
> Rheumatoid Arthritis
>
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 7:33 PM Deborah Gerard 
> wrote:
>
>> RA=Arthritis...people use the abbreviation quit a lot for it.
>>
>> On Monday, June 10, 2019, 03:24:47 AM EDT, Phil Morrison <
>> philmorrison...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> To: Deb Gerard
>>
>> RA ... radioactivity?
>>
>> Ref please.
>>
>>
>

Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Jean Baugh]

lia

> On Jun 17, 2019, at 12:20 AM, Dan Nave  wrote:
> 
> Rheumatoid Arthritis  
> 
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 7:33 PM Deborah Gerard  > wrote:
> RA=Arthritis...people use the abbreviation quit a lot for it.
> 
> On Monday, June 10, 2019, 03:24:47 AM EDT, Phil Morrison 
> mailto:philmorrison...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> To: Deb Gerard
> 
> RA ... radioactivity?
> 
> Ref please. 
> 

Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Dan Nave]

Rheumatoid Arthritis

On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 7:33 PM Deborah Gerard  wrote:

> RA=Arthritis...people use the abbreviation quit a lot for it.
>
> On Monday, June 10, 2019, 03:24:47 AM EDT, Phil Morrison <
> philmorrison...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> To: Deb Gerard
>
> RA ... radioactivity?
>
> Ref please.
>
>

Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Deborah Gerard]

 RA=Arthritis...people use the abbreviation quit a lot for it.
On Monday, June 10, 2019, 03:24:47 AM EDT, Phil Morrison 
 wrote:  
 
 To: Deb Gerard
RA ... radioactivity?
Ref please. 

  

CS>Colloidal Gold

[Phil Morrison]

To: Deb Gerard

RA ... radioactivity?

Ref please.

Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Deborah Gerard]

 Doesn't colloidal gold go after RA?
On Monday, June 10, 2019, 12:54:12 AM EDT, Phil Morrison 
 wrote:  
 
 Colloidal silver is a natural pathogen killer.  Colloidal gold is not.

Why are we flogging colloidal gold on a CS Forum?

The are many handy ways to use hydrogen peroxide, see below.

https://wakeup-world.com/2012/07/09/27-amazing-benefits-and-uses-for-hydrogen-peroxide/
  

CS>Colloidal gold

[Phil Morrison]

Colloidal silver is a natural pathogen killer.  Colloidal gold is not.

Why are we flogging colloidal gold on a CS Forum?


The are many handy ways to use hydrogen peroxide, see below.

https://wakeup-world.com/2012/07/09/27-amazing-benefits-and-uses-for-hydrogen-peroxide/

Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[David Bearrow]

Hello Jean,
I am by no means an expert nor am I qualified to give medical advice. If you go 
to the link in my last email it addresses your colloidal gold questions.
If I had a dental injury that was infected and leaking puss I would make a 
strong  batch of colloidal silver(10 to 30 ppm) and mix it 10 to 1 with some 
DMSO. I would then soak a cotton ball with the solution and attempt to keep it 
on the infected spot as long as I was able. I would do this 3 times a day for 
at least 5 minutes for 2 weeks.The DMSO has the ability to drive the silver 
into the tissue. This is what I would do (have done in the past) for myself.

best regards,
David Bearrow chip...@verizon.net(Sent from my cellphone)
 On Sunday, June 9, 2019, Jean Baugh  wrote:

Hi David, Several questions please.
Which colloidal gold machine is best for a novice, but good?  How much is it?
I have a niece who had a root canal on one of her front teeth many years ago 
and now it is leaking pus and giving her migraine headaches.  Is there anything 
that would stop the infection?
Thank you,
Jean



On Jun 9, 2019, at 1:53 PM, David Bearrow  wrote:
It takes high voltage to make safe quality colloidal gold. Your cs generator is 
not powerful enough to do gold. You need a high voltage arc to produce it.
http://www.silvermedicine.org/colloidal-gold.html

best regards,
David Bearrow chip...@verizon.net(Sent from my cellphone)
 On Sunday, June 9, 2019, Jean Baugh  wrote:

Hi,
I would be willing to buy a couple of1/10 oz gold coins and wrap them with the 
silver strip ends.  Just out of curiosity.
Jean


On Jun 9, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Airwick  wrote:
 

I'm thinking that depending on how the generator is constructed, perhaps steel 
wires of the the appropriate gauge might be substituted for the silver ones, 
and alligator clips could be attached to them to grasp the coins.

I'd try it myself, but I don't want to waste a couple of gold coins for an 
experiment.

Small ones would work but the process would likely take longer due to their 
smaller surface area.
 
 On 6/8/2019 5:27 PM, Jean Baugh wrote:
  
 
 
This is an interesting idea.  Then surely someone could sell golden wires, to 
connect to the generator?
 
 
  How about platinum?  Why not? 
  Jean 
  ***
 

  

All one needs is a colloidal silver generator and a couple of . or .999 
fine gold coins and you can make your own.  Since gold is so expensive I'd use 
smaller ones like 1/10 oz.
 
 On 6/8/2019 3:55 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:
  
 
 Hi Folks,  
  There use to be a person who made colloidal gold on this list and I use to 
get it from him years ago. Does anyone remember who that person  was and how I 
might get in contact with him? In need of getting some of the product. 
  Thanks much in advance, 
  Debbie  
 

Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Douglas Haack]

 Go the archives and search "Colloidal Gold". I've been a member since 1997...
Bob Berger "Ole bob" made some, he passed on some 10 years ago

In SILvation,
Douglas H -- in Oz

   
 
On Monday, 10 June 2019, 11:43:37 am AEST, Jim  wrote:  
 
 
One such person accepted payment quickly, but was nearly impossible to get him 
to return either money or product. 

  

From: Deborah Gerard  
Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2019 2:55 PM
To: Silverlist Post 
Subject: CS>Colloidal gold

  

Hi Folks, 

  

There use to be a person who made colloidal gold on this list and I use to get 
it from him years ago. Does anyone remember who that person was and how I might 
get in contact with him? In need of getting some of the product.

  

Thanks much in advance,

  

Debbie


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RE: CS>Colloidal gold

[Jim]

One such person accepted payment quickly, but was nearly impossible to get him 
to return either money or product.



From: Deborah Gerard 
Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2019 2:55 PM
To: Silverlist Post 
Subject: CS>Colloidal gold



Hi Folks,



There use to be a person who made colloidal gold on this list and I use to get 
it from him years ago. Does anyone remember who that person was and how I might 
get in contact with him? In need of getting some of the product.



Thanks much in advance,



Debbie



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Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Jean Baugh]

Hi David,
 
Several questions please.

Which colloidal gold machine is best for a novice, but good?  How much is it?

I have a niece who had a root canal on one of her front teeth many years ago 
and now it is leaking pus and giving her migraine headaches.  Is there anything 
that would stop the infection?

Thank you,

Jean




> On Jun 9, 2019, at 1:53 PM, David Bearrow  wrote:
> 
> It takes high voltage to make safe quality colloidal gold. Your cs generator 
> is not powerful enough to do gold. You need a high voltage arc to produce it.
> 
> http://www.silvermedicine.org/colloidal-gold.html 
> 
> 
> best regards,
> 
> David Bearrow 
> chip...@verizon.net
> (Sent from my cellphone)
> 
> On Sunday, June 9, 2019, Jean Baugh  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I would be willing to buy a couple of1/10 oz gold coins and wrap them with 
> the silver strip ends.  Just out of curiosity.
> 
> Jean
> 
> 
>> On Jun 9, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Airwick > > wrote:
>> 
> 
> I'm thinking that depending on how the generator is constructed, perhaps 
> steel wires of the the appropriate gauge might be substituted for the silver 
> ones, and alligator clips could be attached to them to grasp the coins.
> 
> I'd try it myself, but I don't want to waste a couple of gold coins for an 
> experiment.
> 
> Small ones would work but the process would likely take longer due to their 
> smaller surface area.
> On 6/8/2019 5:27 PM, Jean Baugh wrote:
> 
>> This is an interesting idea.  Then surely someone could sell golden wires, 
>> to connect to the generator?
> 
> How about platinum?  Why not?
> 
> Jean
> 
> ***
>> 
> 
> All one needs is a colloidal silver generator and a couple of . or .999 
> fine gold coins and you can make your own.  Since gold is so expensive I'd 
> use smaller ones like 1/10 oz.
> On 6/8/2019 3:55 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:
> 
> Hi Folks, 
> 
> There use to be a person who made colloidal gold on this list and I use to 
> get it from him years ago. Does anyone remember who that person was and how I 
> might get in contact with him? In need of getting some of the product.
> 
> Thanks much in advance,
> 
> Debbie
> 
> 

Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Airwick]

Hi David,

Interesting.

Thanks... Eric

On 6/9/2019 11:53 AM, David Bearrow wrote:
It takes high voltage to make safe quality colloidal gold. Your cs 
generator is not powerful enough to do gold. You need a high voltage 
arc to produce it.


http://www.silvermedicine.org/colloidal-gold.html

best regards,

David Bearrow
chip...@verizon.net
(Sent from my cellphone)

On Sunday, June 9, 2019, Jean Baugh  wrote:

Hi,

I would be willing to buy a couple of1/10 oz gold coins and wrap
them with the silver strip ends.  Just out of curiosity.

Jean



On Jun 9, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Airwick mailto:nazfl...@northlink.com>> wrote:


I'm thinking that depending on how the generator is constructed,
perhaps steel wires of the the appropriate gauge might be
substituted for the silver ones, and alligator clips could be
attached to them to grasp the coins.

I'd try it myself, but I don't want to waste a couple of gold
coins for an experiment.

Small ones would work but the process would likely take longer due
to their smaller surface area.

On 6/8/2019 5:27 PM, Jean Baugh wrote:

This is an interesting idea.  Then surely someone could sell
golden wires, to connect to the generator?


How about platinum?  Why not?

Jean

***



All one needs is a colloidal silver generator and a couple of
. or .999 fine gold coins and you can make your own.  Since
gold is so expensive I'd use smaller ones like 1/10 oz.

On 6/8/2019 3:55 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:
Hi Folks,

There use to be a person who made colloidal gold on this list and
I use to get it from him years ago. Does anyone remember who that
person was and how I might get in contact with him? In need of
getting some of the product.

Thanks much in advance,

Debbie

Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[David Bearrow]

It takes high voltage to make safe quality colloidal gold. Your cs generator is 
not powerful enough to do gold. You need a high voltage arc to produce it.
http://www.silvermedicine.org/colloidal-gold.html

best regards,
David Bearrow chip...@verizon.net(Sent from my cellphone)
 On Sunday, June 9, 2019, Jean Baugh  wrote:

Hi,
I would be willing to buy a couple of1/10 oz gold coins and wrap them with the 
silver strip ends.  Just out of curiosity.
Jean


On Jun 9, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Airwick  wrote:
 

I'm thinking that depending on how the generator is constructed, perhaps steel 
wires of the the appropriate gauge might be substituted for the silver ones, 
and alligator clips could be attached to them to grasp the coins.

I'd try it myself, but I don't want to waste a couple of gold coins for an 
experiment.

Small ones would work but the process would likely take longer due to their 
smaller surface area.
 
 On 6/8/2019 5:27 PM, Jean Baugh wrote:
  
 
 
This is an interesting idea.  Then surely someone could sell golden wires, to 
connect to the generator?
 
 
  How about platinum?  Why not? 
  Jean 
  ***
 

  

All one needs is a colloidal silver generator and a couple of . or .999 
fine gold coins and you can make your own.  Since gold is so expensive I'd use 
smaller ones like 1/10 oz.
 
 On 6/8/2019 3:55 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:
  
 
 Hi Folks,  
  There use to be a person who made colloidal gold on this list and I use to 
get it from him years ago. Does anyone remember who that person  was and how I 
might get in contact with him? In need of getting some of the product. 
  Thanks much in advance, 
  Debbie  
 

Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Jean Baugh]

Hi,

I would be willing to buy a couple of1/10 oz gold coins and wrap them with the 
silver strip ends.  Just out of curiosity.

Jean


> On Jun 9, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Airwick  wrote:
> 
> I'm thinking that depending on how the generator is constructed, perhaps 
> steel wires of the the appropriate gauge might be substituted for the silver 
> ones, and alligator clips could be attached to them to grasp the coins.
> 
> I'd try it myself, but I don't want to waste a couple of gold coins for an 
> experiment.
> 
> Small ones would work but the process would likely take longer due to their 
> smaller surface area.
> On 6/8/2019 5:27 PM, Jean Baugh wrote:
>>> This is an interesting idea.  Then surely someone could sell golden wires, 
>>> to connect to the generator?
>> 
>> How about platinum?  Why not?
>> 
>> Jean
>> 
>> ***
>>> 
>>> All one needs is a colloidal silver generator and a couple of . or .999 
>>> fine gold coins and you can make your own.  Since gold is so expensive I'd 
>>> use smaller ones like 1/10 oz.
>>> On 6/8/2019 3:55 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:
 Hi Folks, 
 
 There use to be a person who made colloidal gold on this list and I use to 
 get it from him years ago. Does anyone remember who that person was and 
 how I might get in contact with him? In need of getting some of the 
 product.
 
 Thanks much in advance,
 
 Debbie
>> 

Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Airwick]

I'm thinking that depending on how the generator is constructed, perhaps 
steel wires of the the appropriate gauge might be substituted for the 
silver ones, and alligator clips could be attached to them to grasp the 
coins.


I'd try it myself, but I don't want to waste a couple of gold coins for 
an experiment.


Small ones would work but the process would likely take longer due to 
their smaller surface area.


On 6/8/2019 5:27 PM, Jean Baugh wrote:
This is an interesting idea.  Then surely someone could sell golden 
wires, to connect to the generator?


How about platinum?  Why not?

Jean

***


All one needs is a colloidal silver generator and a couple of . 
or .999 fine gold coins and you can make your own.  Since gold is so 
expensive I'd use smaller ones like 1/10 oz.


On 6/8/2019 3:55 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:

Hi Folks,

There use to be a person who made colloidal gold on this list and I 
use to get it from him years ago. Does anyone remember who that 
person was and how I might get in contact with him? In need of 
getting some of the product.


Thanks much in advance,

Debbie

CS>Colloidal gold

[Jean Baugh]

> This is an interesting idea.  Then surely someone could sell golden wires, to 
> connect to the generator?

How about platinum?  Why not?

Jean

***
> 
> All one needs is a colloidal silver generator and a couple of . or .999 
> fine gold coins and you can make your own.  Since gold is so expensive I'd 
> use smaller ones like 1/10 oz.
> On 6/8/2019 3:55 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:
>> Hi Folks, 
>> 
>> There use to be a person who made colloidal gold on this list and I use to 
>> get it from him years ago. Does anyone remember who that person was and how 
>> I might get in contact with him? In need of getting some of the product.
>> 
>> Thanks much in advance,
>> 
>> Debbie

Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Airwick]

All one needs is a colloidal silver generator and a couple of . or 
.999 fine gold coins and you can make your own.  Since gold is so 
expensive I'd use smaller ones like 1/10 oz.


On 6/8/2019 3:55 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:

Hi Folks,

There use to be a person who made colloidal gold on this list and I 
use to get it from him years ago. Does anyone remember who that person 
was and how I might get in contact with him? In need of getting some 
of the product.


Thanks much in advance,

Debbie

CS>Colloidal gold

[Deborah Gerard]

Hi Folks, 
There use to be a person who made colloidal gold on this list and I use to get 
it from him years ago. Does anyone remember who that person was and how I might 
get in contact with him? In need of getting some of the product.
Thanks much in advance,
Debbie

RE: CS>Colloidal gold

[Ode Coyote]

 Using a DC output, the silver will plate out.

  I think maybe "white gold" electrodes would be the best bet...and 
"piggyback" gold off the electrodes as the silver ionizes the alloys 
lattice structure away.
There are several alloys that qualify, so make sure to get the one that's 
only silver and gold, although a bit of copper probably won't hurt 
anything...but might shorten the shelf life.


The other guy uses baking soda as the electrolyte.
 I'm not seeing much reference to gold carbonate.

Ode



At 10:34 AM 10/9/2008 -0500, you wrote:

Thanks Ode,
Not much to find on the net relative to gold acetate but it probably
isn't something you want whether it is toxic or not since it may make
some portion of the gold inactive.  Do you think using CS would work ok
as a starter? Would it just plate out on one electrode?
Thanks,
Steve N

-Original Message-
From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net]
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 4:20 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal gold

This is the html version of the file
<http://www.espimetals.com/msds%27s/goldacetate.pdf>http://www.espimetal
s.com/msds's/goldacetate.pdf.
Google automatically generates html versions of documents as we crawl
the web.
Page 1
MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET
I
PRODUCT IDENTIFICATION
Trade Name:
Gold III Acetate
Synonyms:
None Known
Chemical Nature:
Gold Compound
Chemical Family:
Organometallic
Formula:
Au(O2CCH3)3
PHYSICAL DATA

Solubility in Water:
Slight
Appearance and Odor:
Brown powder, vinegar like odor

At 06:24 PM 10/8/2008 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Here is a plan for an LVDC colloidal gold generator (50 VDC). It uses
>vinegar as a starter for the first batch. Are there any issues with
>starters for CG like there is with CS?
>  - Steve N
>
>http://www.huldaclarkzappers.com/colloidal_gold_machine.html
>
>
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Re: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)

[Dee]

I think its good for things like arthritis.  dee

Smitty wrote:

colloidal gold . . . . . .



Are there advantages of colloidal gold over silver ?
Just wonderin' after  a lot of coll.gold discussion  on this list.

Smitty


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Re: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)

[cking001]

I have one, (Ovo) but I haven't used it yet.
I sometimes buy such things to have "just in case" and before they
disappear from the market.

Really, colloidal silver has fulfilled all my needs for health
maintenance.

Chuck
Statistically speaking, I am just a standard deviate.


On 10/9/2008 5:19:10 PM, Pat (pattycake29...@yahoo.com) wrote:
> That's too bad about Karl.  He seems so nice online.  He maybe got way over 
> his head and then financial and personal problems have overtaken his good 
> intentions.  I'd
> ordered a bottle of colloidal gold about 3 years ago and got it promptly.
> Does anyone know someone who has received an Ovo and if it does make
> colloidal gold?
> 
> Pat
> 
> Thanks to all for the warnings. Here is the link mentioned below (I
> think)
> 
> http://www.colloidalgold.info/
> 
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Re: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)

[Smitty]

>  Colloidal gold is different from CS. CG is for pain (joint, arthritis,
>  fibromyalgia, etc) and studies have shown that it increases IQ.
>   - Steve

Thanks for the info. I like the IQ idea !

Smitty


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RE: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)

[Norton, Steve]

Colloidal gold is different from CS. CG is for pain (joint, arthritis,
fibromyalgia, etc) and studies have shown that it increases IQ.
 - Steve

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From: Smitty [mailto:papad...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 2:52 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)

>colloidal gold . . . . . .

Are there advantages of colloidal gold over silver ?
Just wonderin' after  a lot of coll.gold discussion  on this list.

Smitty



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Re: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)

[Smitty]

>colloidal gold . . . . . .

Are there advantages of colloidal gold over silver ?
Just wonderin' after  a lot of coll.gold discussion  on this list.

Smitty


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Re: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)

[Pat]

That's too bad about Karl.  He seems so nice online.  He maybe got way over his 
head and then financial and personal problems have overtaken his good 
intentions.  I'd ordered a bottle of colloidal gold about 3 years ago and got 
it promptly.  Does anyone know someone who has received an Ovo and if it does 
make colloidal gold?


Pat

Thanks to all for the warnings. Here is the link mentioned below (I
think)

http://www.colloidalgold.info/


  


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RE: CS>Colloidal gold

[Norton, Steve]

Thanks Ode,
Not much to find on the net relative to gold acetate but it probably
isn't something you want whether it is toxic or not since it may make
some portion of the gold inactive.  Do you think using CS would work ok
as a starter? Would it just plate out on one electrode? 
Thanks,
Steve N

-Original Message-
From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] 
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 4:20 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal gold

This is the html version of the file
<http://www.espimetals.com/msds%27s/goldacetate.pdf>http://www.espimetal
s.com/msds's/goldacetate.pdf.
Google automatically generates html versions of documents as we crawl
the web.
Page 1
MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET
I
PRODUCT IDENTIFICATION
Trade Name:
Gold III Acetate
Synonyms:
None Known
Chemical Nature:
Gold Compound
Chemical Family:
Organometallic
Formula:
Au(O2CCH3)3
PHYSICAL DATA

Solubility in Water:
Slight
Appearance and Odor:
Brown powder, vinegar like odor

At 06:24 PM 10/8/2008 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Here is a plan for an LVDC colloidal gold generator (50 VDC). It uses 
>vinegar as a starter for the first batch. Are there any issues with 
>starters for CG like there is with CS?
>  - Steve N
>
>http://www.huldaclarkzappers.com/colloidal_gold_machine.html
>
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Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Ode Coyote]

  I have been unable to make ionic copper with just water..ionic gold may 
also be like that.


ode



At 06:41 PM 10/8/2008 -0500, you wrote:


Also, are there "ionic gold" issues?
Thanks,
Steve N

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Sent: Wed Oct 08 18:24:09 2008
Subject: CS>Colloidal gold


Here is a plan for an LVDC colloidal gold generator (50 VDC). It uses
vinegar as a starter for the first batch. Are there any issues with
starters for CG like there is with CS?
 - Steve N

<http://www.huldaclarkzappers.com/colloidal_gold_machine.html>http://www.huldaclarkzappers.com/colloidal_gold_machine.html


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Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Ode Coyote]

This is the html version of the file 
http://www.espimetals.com/msds's/goldacetate.pdf.

Google automatically generates html versions of documents as we crawl the web.
Page 1
MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET
I
PRODUCT IDENTIFICATION
Trade Name:
Gold III Acetate
Synonyms:
None Known
Chemical Nature:
Gold Compound
Chemical Family:
Organometallic
Formula:
Au(O2CCH3)3
PHYSICAL DATA

Solubility in Water:
Slight
Appearance and Odor:
Brown powder, vinegar like odor

At 06:24 PM 10/8/2008 -0500, you wrote:


Here is a plan for an LVDC colloidal gold generator (50 VDC). It uses
vinegar as a starter for the first batch. Are there any issues with
starters for CG like there is with CS?
 - Steve N

http://www.huldaclarkzappers.com/colloidal_gold_machine.html


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Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Norton, Steve]

Also, are there "ionic gold" issues?
Thanks,
Steve N

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To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wed Oct 08 18:24:09 2008
Subject: CS>Colloidal gold

 
Here is a plan for an LVDC colloidal gold generator (50 VDC). It uses
vinegar as a starter for the first batch. Are there any issues with
starters for CG like there is with CS?
 - Steve N

http://www.huldaclarkzappers.com/colloidal_gold_machine.html


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CS>Colloidal gold

[Norton, Steve]

 
Here is a plan for an LVDC colloidal gold generator (50 VDC). It uses
vinegar as a starter for the first batch. Are there any issues with
starters for CG like there is with CS?
 - Steve N

http://www.huldaclarkzappers.com/colloidal_gold_machine.html


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RE: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)

[Norton, Steve]

Thanks to all for the warnings. Here is the link mentioned below (I
think)

http://www.colloidalgold.info/

 - Steve N 

-Original Message-
From: bob Larson [mailto:bobl...@cablespeed.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 6:21 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)

i've noticed others with the same problem.
legal action is appropriate and needed.  cooperation with other victims
would probably be needed to get any significant response from
authorities.
someone recently posted a link to a website set up to flag this
operation...
maybe it includes a way to get other victims together?

> -Original Message-
> From: David O'Neil [mailto:da...@alchemysa.com.au]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 9:02 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)
>
>
> >>
>
>
> Thats an interesting site but unfortunately Karl is a crook. I paid a 
> lot of money for one of his machines a few years ago but I'm still 
> waiting. I'm not the only one. There has been complaints about him on 
> other groups too.  Do not send him any money!
>
>
> David
>
>


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CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)

[David O'Neil]

Hello Bob

I'm in Australia, so any legal resolution to this is unlikely. My  
only satisfaction is exposing this shonk.


David






From: "bob Larson" 
Date: 24 September 2008 10:50:44 PM
To: 
Subject: RE: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)


i've noticed others with the same problem.
legal action is appropriate and needed.  cooperation with other  
victims
would probably be needed to get any significant response from  
authorities.
someone recently posted a link to a website set up to flag this  
operation...

maybe it includes a way to get other victims together?



-Original Message-
From: David O'Neil [mailto:da...@alchemysa.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 9:02 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)









Thats an interesting site but unfortunately Karl is a crook. I paid a
lot of money for one of his machines a few years ago but I'm still
waiting. I'm not the only one. There has been complaints about him on
other groups too.  Do not send him any money!


David








From: cking...@nycap.rr.com
Date: 24 September 2008 8:01:15 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal gold


Start here:
http://www.colloidalgoldmachines-central.com/Research/Ovo.htm

Chuck




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CS>Colloidal Gold Warning

[Philippa Gibson]

I too was taken for a ride by Karl.  I paid for one of his generators  
and had 7 months worth of promises and excuses before I became tired  
of his evasions and contacted my credit card company and was able to  
get my money back.  Every time I contacted him to say that it hadn't  
arrived as promised he emailed back with one excuse after another, and  
more promises of delivery.  Sorry to hear that this is a consistent  
feature of his business operations and that he has taken others in as  
well.


Philippa

"Thats an interesting site but unfortunately Karl is a crook. I paid a  
lot of money for one of his machines a few years ago but I'm still  
waiting. I'm not the only one. There has been complaints about him on  
other groups too.  Do not send him any money!



David"

RE: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)

[bob Larson]

i've noticed others with the same problem.
legal action is appropriate and needed.  cooperation with other victims
would probably be needed to get any significant response from authorities.
someone recently posted a link to a website set up to flag this operation...
maybe it includes a way to get other victims together?

> -Original Message-
> From: David O'Neil [mailto:da...@alchemysa.com.au]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 9:02 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)
>
>
> >>
>
>
> Thats an interesting site but unfortunately Karl is a crook. I paid a
> lot of money for one of his machines a few years ago but I'm still
> waiting. I'm not the only one. There has been complaints about him on
> other groups too.  Do not send him any money!
>
>
> David
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > From: cking...@nycap.rr.com
> > Date: 24 September 2008 8:01:15 AM
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal gold
> >
> >
> > Start here:
> > http://www.colloidalgoldmachines-central.com/Research/Ovo.htm
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> > i think you know about Karl's site?
> > http://colloidalgoldmachines-central.com/Sales/Sales1.html
> > i don't know if it's still there, but there used to be a pretty
> > nice set
> > of pics and plans for building one.  MOT + variac + even an automatic
> > arc gap adjuster.
> >
> > and wasn't this (now dead site) with all the pics of a CG system and
> > produced product you steve norton?  http://www.biochi.com/
> > process_3.htm
> >
> > bobL
> >
> >>
>
>
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CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)

[David O'Neil]

Thats an interesting site but unfortunately Karl is a crook. I paid a  
lot of money for one of his machines a few years ago but I'm still  
waiting. I'm not the only one. There has been complaints about him on  
other groups too.  Do not send him any money!



David







From: cking...@nycap.rr.com
Date: 24 September 2008 8:01:15 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal gold


Start here:
http://www.colloidalgoldmachines-central.com/Research/Ovo.htm

Chuck

i think you know about Karl's site?
http://colloidalgoldmachines-central.com/Sales/Sales1.html
i don't know if it's still there, but there used to be a pretty  
nice set

of pics and plans for building one.  MOT + variac + even an automatic
arc gap adjuster.

and wasn't this (now dead site) with all the pics of a CG system and
produced product you steve norton?  http://www.biochi.com/ 
process_3.htm


bobL






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Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Dee]

the trouble with Vit D supplementation is, that it 'can' be overloaded 
and that can cause severe problems so it should be approached with 
caution.  Mercola suggests being tested for it first.  dee


B Magnatta wrote:









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Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Dee]

I think herpes could also be the cause because when I had shingles, I 
took copious amounts of CS plus lysine and it went in a week.  After 
that whenever I get the awful burning and 'stabbing' pains which used to 
be the start, I would start this regime and it would go.  Another thing 
for this (if it is herpes) could be aerobic oxygen which I am also 
taking for fatique, and it seems to be working fine.  I have read that 
there is thought that one or other of the herpes viruses may be at the 
root of a lot of nerve related diseases, and even maybe, cancer. dee


bob Larson wrote:

fibromyalgia is prominent among the symptoms of active chronic hep-c
infection, so that should be ruled out.  CS manages mine = no more fibro
there are other possible causes (that i don't recall) that should also be
ruled out or dealt with.


  




<>
Thanks,
Steve N




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Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Norton, Steve]

I'll ask. 
Thanks for the idea.
 - Steve N

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From: B Magnatta 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tue Sep 23 21:26:26 2008
Subject: RE: CS>Colloidal gold

Is she taking enough vitamin D? It's a natural pain killer, per article that 
was just posted on this site.
 
Sincerely< Barb M. 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Norton, Steve <mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com> 
Date: 9/23/2008 19:09:43
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Colloidal gold
 
Thanks, that generator is reasonably priced and certainly safer than the
microwave transformer approach. I wlll look into all the suggestions
everyone has made and I am surprised be the FAST responses. I sincerely
mean the thanks. The pain killers my friend takes almost incapicates her
and I hope there is spme way to help her have a more normal life.
  - Steve N
 
-Original Message-
From: cking...@nycap.rr.com [mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:31 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal gold
 
Start here:
  http://www.colloidalgoldmachines-central.com/Research/Ovo.htm
 
   Chuck
Xerox and Wurlitzer will merge to market reproductive organs.
 
 
On 9/23/2008 6:11:42 PM, Norton, Steve (stephen.nor...@ngc.com) wrote:
> A friend has Fibtromyalgia and desperately wants to get off the pain
> killers. Colloidal gold has been recommended to help. Does anyone have
 
> a design for a colloidal gold generator?
> Thanks,
> Steve N
>
 
 
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RE: CS>Colloidal gold

[B Magnatta]

Is she taking enough vitamin D? It's a natural pain killer, per article that
was just posted on this site.

Sincerely< Barb M. 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Norton, Steve
Date: 9/23/2008 19:09:43
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Colloidal gold
 
Thanks, that generator is reasonably priced and certainly safer than the
microwave transformer approach. I wlll look into all the suggestions
everyone has made and I am surprised be the FAST responses. I sincerely
mean the thanks. The pain killers my friend takes almost incapicates her
and I hope there is spme way to help her have a more normal life.
  - Steve N
 
-Original Message-
From: cking...@nycap.rr.com [mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:31 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal gold
 
Start here:
  http://www.colloidalgoldmachines-central.com/Research/Ovo.htm
 
   Chuck
Xerox and Wurlitzer will merge to market reproductive organs.
 
 
On 9/23/2008 6:11:42 PM, Norton, Steve (stephen.nor...@ngc.com) wrote:
> A friend has Fibtromyalgia and desperately wants to get off the pain
> killers. Colloidal gold has been recommended to help. Does anyone have
 
> a design for a colloidal gold generator?
> Thanks,
> Steve N
>
 
 
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RE: CS>Colloidal gold

[Norton, Steve]

Thanks, that generator is reasonably priced and certainly safer than the
microwave transformer approach. I wlll look into all the suggestions
everyone has made and I am surprised be the FAST responses. I sincerely
mean the thanks. The pain killers my friend takes almost incapicates her
and I hope there is spme way to help her have a more normal life.
 - Steve N 

-Original Message-
From: cking...@nycap.rr.com [mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:31 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal gold

Start here:
http://www.colloidalgoldmachines-central.com/Research/Ovo.htm

Chuck
Xerox and Wurlitzer will merge to market reproductive organs.


On 9/23/2008 6:11:42 PM, Norton, Steve (stephen.nor...@ngc.com) wrote:
> A friend has Fibtromyalgia and desperately wants to get off the pain 
> killers. Colloidal gold has been recommended to help. Does anyone have

> a design for a colloidal gold generator?
> Thanks,
> Steve N
> 


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RE: CS>Colloidal gold

[Norton, Steve]

Thanks. Yes, I am that Steve Norton. I guess the traffic from here
caused them to take down their site. I should have a printout of the
site some where. I do have plans that uses a microwave transformer and
variac to create a HV arc with gold electrodes and manual gap adjuster
but was hoping there was something simpler. I will have her try CS first
and also Ribose to see if that helps. Then iodine as Craig has
suggested. And if I go the generator route it may make sense to purchase
the generator that Chuck provided a link to. It certainly would be less
dangerous than the microwave transformer route. Everyone has given me so
much to consider so quickly.


Thanks to ALL.
 - Steve N

-Original Message-
From: bob Larson [mailto:bobl...@cablespeed.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:33 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Colloidal gold

fibromyalgia is prominent among the symptoms of active chronic hep-c
infection, so that should be ruled out.  CS manages mine = no more fibro
there are other possible causes (that i don't recall) that should also
be ruled out or dealt with.

do you suppose CG might get at the root cause or only give symptomatic
relief?

i think you know about Karl's site?
http://colloidalgoldmachines-central.com/Sales/Sales1.html
i don't know if it's still there, but there used to be a pretty nice set
of pics and plans for building one.  MOT + variac + even an automatic
arc gap adjuster.

and wasn't this (now dead site) with all the pics of a CG system and
produced product you steve norton?  http://www.biochi.com/process_3.htm

bobL

> -Original Message-
> From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 6:12 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>Colloidal gold
>
>
>
> A friend has Fibtromyalgia and desperately wants to get off the pain 
> killers. Colloidal gold has been recommended to help. Does anyone have

> a design for a colloidal gold generator?
> Thanks,
> Steve N


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RE: CS>Colloidal gold

[bob Larson]

fibromyalgia is prominent among the symptoms of active chronic hep-c
infection, so that should be ruled out.  CS manages mine = no more fibro
there are other possible causes (that i don't recall) that should also be
ruled out or dealt with.

do you suppose CG might get at the root cause or only give symptomatic
relief?

i think you know about Karl's site?
http://colloidalgoldmachines-central.com/Sales/Sales1.html
i don't know if it's still there, but there used to be a pretty nice set of
pics and plans for building one.  MOT + variac + even an automatic arc gap
adjuster.

and wasn't this (now dead site) with all the pics of a CG system and
produced product you steve norton?  http://www.biochi.com/process_3.htm

bobL

> -Original Message-
> From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 6:12 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>Colloidal gold
>
>
>
> A friend has Fibtromyalgia and desperately wants to get off the pain
> killers. Colloidal gold has been recommended to help. Does anyone have a
> design for a colloidal gold generator?
> Thanks,
> Steve N


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Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[cking001]

Start here:
http://www.colloidalgoldmachines-central.com/Research/Ovo.htm

Chuck
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On 9/23/2008 6:11:42 PM, Norton, Steve (stephen.nor...@ngc.com) wrote:
> A friend has Fibtromyalgia and desperately wants to get off the pain
> killers. Colloidal gold has been recommended to help. Does anyone have a
> design for a colloidal gold generator?
> Thanks,
> Steve N
> 
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Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Craig Chamberlin]

Hi Steve,

Fibromyalgia responds very well to iodine supplementation.  It is 
relatively inexpensive as well.  Find more information in these places:


The Yahoo iodine group...much info and people relating experiences:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine/

The web site with a very comprehensive discussion of high dose iodine
supplementation (meaning Lugol's or Iodoral):

http://www.iodine4health.com

Iodoral:

https://vvv9.com/iodoral  The cheapest I have found it in the US.

The book written by Brownstein, which has great information, but he
isn't a great writer:

http://www.drbrownstein.com/singleproduct.asp?id=787

Hope this is helpful...the iodine group is large and the moderator is 
terrific...her name is Stephanie.


Kind Regards,

Craig

Norton, Steve wrote:
 
A friend has Fibtromyalgia and desperately wants to get off the pain

killers. Colloidal gold has been recommended to help. Does anyone have a
design for a colloidal gold generator?
Thanks,
Steve N


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CS>Colloidal gold

[Norton, Steve]

 
A friend has Fibtromyalgia and desperately wants to get off the pain
killers. Colloidal gold has been recommended to help. Does anyone have a
design for a colloidal gold generator?
Thanks,
Steve N


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CS>colloidal gold

[marmar845]

-- Original message from "Dianne France" 
: -- 


I have a friend that used to get gold injections for severe arthritis.  They no 
longer have gold for this use.  He said that his arthritis hasn't been as much 
under control since he had to give up the gold shots.

 Your friend should be grateful that gold shots aren't being given to him 
anymore.  I also had a friend who was given gold shots for severe arthritis.  
Thirty or forty years of them killed her kidneys -- and last year she had to 
have a kidney transplant.  She was fortunate enough to find a donor -- 
otherwise she would have died.  MA

CS>Colloidal gold

[oldgl...@bigcountry.net]

Hi,

If anyone has conducted business with Karl Rhinehart, of the Colloidal Gold
list, either buying CG machines, colloidal gold or colloidal platinum, would
you please contact me privately?

Thank you,

Jean Baugh


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RE: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Jim Holmes]

Interesting.  Thank you for the link.

 Jim 

-Original Message-
From: Pat [mailto:pattycake29...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:10 PM
To: silver list
Subject: CS>Colloidal Gold

To learn about making colloidal gold, you might join the Yahoo group
cg_exchange .  There are instructions for making your own machine, but it
takes high voltage and is a lot more complicated than making CS.  You can
buy colloidal gold from the man who started the colloidal gold groups, Karl
Reinhart. His website is http://colloidalgoldmachines-central.com  

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CS>Colloidal Gold

[Pat]

To learn about making colloidal gold, you might join
the Yahoo group  cg_exchange .  There are instructions
for making your own machine, but it takes high voltage
and is a lot more complicated than making CS.  You can
buy colloidal gold from the man who started the
colloidal gold groups, Karl Reinhart. His website is
http://colloidalgoldmachines-central.com  

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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[mborgert]

cannot open it up
mary
 -- Original message --
From: Susan 
> www.silver-biotic.com 
> 
> "James McCourt, Ph.D."  wrote:  Where did you 
> find 
> it?
> - Original Message - 
>   From: Susan 
>   To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
>   Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 3:45 PM
>   Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold
>   
> 
>   I ordered some rated @240 ppm and using it to treat hypothyroid related 
> depression and it is working fine for me...
>   Susan
> 
> Robert Berger  wrote:
> Hi Listers,
>
>   Has anyone made or used colloidal gold recently??
>
>   I am using some 7.4 PPM that I made back in Feb 2001 and it seems to 
> relieve 
> the knee pains.
>
>   If  you have any knowledge Please let me know.
>
>   Thanks
>
>   "Ole Bob" with knee problems
> 
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[Susan]

www.silver-biotic.com 

"James McCourt, Ph.D."  wrote:  Where did you find 
it?
- Original Message - 
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  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 3:45 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold
  

  I ordered some rated @240 ppm and using it to treat hypothyroid related 
depression and it is working fine for me...
  Susan

Robert Berger  wrote:
Hi Listers,
   
  Has anyone made or used colloidal gold recently??
   
  I am using some 7.4 PPM that I made back in Feb 2001 and it seems to relieve 
the knee pains.
   
  If  you have any knowledge Please let me know.
   
  Thanks
   
  "Ole Bob" with knee problems


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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[James McCourt, Ph.D.]

Where did you find it?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Susan 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 3:45 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold


  I ordered some rated @240 ppm and using it to treat hypothyroid related 
depression and it is working fine for me...
  Susan

  Robert Berger  wrote:
Hi Listers,

Has anyone made or used colloidal gold recently??

I am using some 7.4 PPM that I made back in Feb 2001 and it seems to 
relieve the knee pains.

If  you have any knowledge Please let me know.

Thanks

"Ole Bob" with knee problems




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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Susan]

I ordered some rated @240 ppm and using it to treat hypothyroid related 
depression and it is working fine for me...
  Susan

Robert Berger  wrote:
Hi Listers,
   
  Has anyone made or used colloidal gold recently??
   
  I am using some 7.4 PPM that I made back in Feb 2001 and it seems to relieve 
the knee pains.
   
  If  you have any knowledge Please let me know.
   
  Thanks
   
  "Ole Bob" with knee problems



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CS>Colloidal Gold

[Robert Berger]

Hi Listers,
   
  Has anyone made or used colloidal gold recently??
   
  I am using some 7.4 PPM that I made back in Feb 2001 and it seems to relieve 
the knee pains.
   
  If  you have any knowledge Please let me know.
   
  Thanks
   
  "Ole Bob" with knee problems

Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[sol]

No problem, but don't forget, ok?
sol

William Amos wrote:


Hi:
I started with CG-1 and haven't had time to get back to my story. Christmas 
week and all.
Bill
 

 




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Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[elle roberts]

Here is a very good website step-by-step how to make colloidal gold.
Recommended from the cg_goldlist.
http://www.biochi.com/Minerals%20Dissolution%202.htm 
elle
>From: kent 
>Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Subject: Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Colloidal Gold
>Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:41:17 -0800
>
>Bill,
>Could you do us a favor and let us know the results when they come
>in.  I am very interested in colloidal gold and have started to do a
>little research, however is too expensive for me at this time.
>- Original Message - From: "William Amos"
>
>To: 
>Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 6:45 AM
>Subject: CS>Re:Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Colloidal Gold
>
>
>>Hello Again:
>>My CG is totally clear. I was never concerned about any color.
>>I experimented for nearly 2 years, off & on, before finding a
>>simple but complicated method of making it with HVAC and LVDC in
>>combination. I have sent it to be tested, with no results yet.
>>The important thing is what I have been told " it has helped "
>>Bill
>>--
>>What color is your CG? I am just beginning to look into CG, have
>>looked at it only very briefly, did not think seriously about it
>>due to the expense. I still have a trial of homeopathic gold I want
>>to do first,  but am starting to compile info.
>>TIA,
>>sol
>>
>>William Amos wrote:
>>
>>><>I'm not sure that it would, but I make CG and have to prepare
>>>the
>>>water and use HVAC first and then use 30 vdc
>>>to finish the product.
>>>The tyndall effect is always much stronger than CS.
>>>The RESULTS are amazing. It is not a simple process and doesn't
>>>require underwater arcing.
>>>Bill Amos
>>>--
>>>I seriously doubt that this set up would produce colloidal gold. I
>>>wish the folks who know the requirements of a gen to make CG would
>>>weigh in on this.
>>>sol
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>I use 3x 9 volt batteries in series
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CS>Colloidal Gold

[William Amos]

Hi:
I started with CG-1 and haven't had time to get back to my story. Christmas 
week and all.
Bill
--
Bill,
 Could you do us a favor and let us know the results when they come in.  I  am 
very interested in colloidal gold and have started to do a little  research, 
however is too expensive for me at this time. - Original Message - 
From: "William Amos" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 6:45 AM
Subject: CS>Re:Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Colloidal Gold


> Hello Again:
> My CG is totally clear. I was never concerned about any color.
> I experimented for nearly 2 years, off & on, before finding a simple but 
> complicated method of making it with HVAC and LVDC in combination. I have 
> sent it to be tested, with no results yet.
> The important thing is what I have been told " it has helped "
> Bill
> --
> What color is your CG? I am just beginning to look into CG, have looked 
> at it only very briefly, did not think seriously about it due to the 
> expense. I still have a trial of homeopathic gold I want to do first,  but 
> am starting to compile info.
> TIA,
> sol
>
> William Amos wrote:
>
>> <>I'm not sure that it would, but I make CG and have to prepare the
>> water and use HVAC first and then use 30 vdc
>> to finish the product.
>> The tyndall effect is always much stronger than CS.
>> The RESULTS are amazing. It is not a simple process and doesn't
>> require underwater arcing.
>> Bill Amos
>> --
>> I seriously doubt that this set up would produce colloidal gold. I
>> wish the folks who know the requirements of a gen to make CG would
>> weigh in on this.
>> sol
>>
>
>
> 



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Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[kent]

Bill,
Could you do us a favor and let us know the results when they come in.  I 
am very interested in colloidal gold and have started to do a little 
research, however is too expensive for me at this time.
- Original Message - 
From: "William Amos" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 6:45 AM
Subject: CS>Re:Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Colloidal Gold



Hello Again:
My CG is totally clear. I was never concerned about any color.
I experimented for nearly 2 years, off & on, before finding a simple but 
complicated method of making it with HVAC and LVDC in combination. I have 
sent it to be tested, with no results yet.

The important thing is what I have been told " it has helped "
Bill
--
What color is your CG? I am just beginning to look into CG, have looked 
at it only very briefly, did not think seriously about it due to the 
expense. I still have a trial of homeopathic gold I want to do first,  but 
am starting to compile info.

TIA,
sol

William Amos wrote:


<>I'm not sure that it would, but I make CG and have to prepare the
water and use HVAC first and then use 30 vdc
to finish the product.
The tyndall effect is always much stronger than CS.
The RESULTS are amazing. It is not a simple process and doesn't
require underwater arcing.
Bill Amos
--
I seriously doubt that this set up would produce colloidal gold. I
wish the folks who know the requirements of a gen to make CG would
weigh in on this.
sol

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I use 3x 9 volt batteries in series



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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[elle roberts]

A good read about colloidal gold is at http://www.colloidalgold.net/c-gold.htm
elle
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>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold
>Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 23:13:29 EST
>
>I would appreciate some info too. I would like to try it.
>Thanks,
>Vitale
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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Lea Ann]

That's too bad, I've learned so much from various Yahoo Groups and it's cutting 
edge stuff you'de never get in a book.

I "think" you have to set up a yahoo e-mail account (or something like that) 
before you can set up a user idenity with yahoo?

Best Regards,
Lea Ann Savage
Satellite Beach, FL
321-773-7088
  - Original Message - 
  From: cliff hume 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com ; to...@shaw.ca 
  Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 11:12 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold


  Lea Ann:

  I have never been able to hook up with yahoo for some reason, so I just quit 
trying anymore.

  Regards,  Cliff  ch...@shaw.ca 

Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Lea Ann]

That's too bad, I've learned so much from various Yahoo Groups and it's cutting 
edge stuff you'de never get in a book.

I "think" you have to set up a yahoo e-mail account (or something like that) 
before you can set up a user idenity with yahoo?

Best Regards,
Lea Ann Savage
Satellite Beach, FL
321-773-7088
  - Original Message - 
  From: cliff hume 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com ; to...@shaw.ca 
  Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 11:12 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold


  Lea Ann:

  I have never been able to hook up with yahoo for some reason, so I just quit 
trying anymore.

  Regards,  Cliff  ch...@shaw.ca 

Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[cliff hume]

Lea Ann:

I have never been able to hook up with yahoo for some reason, so I just quit 
trying anymore.

Regards,  Cliff  ch...@shaw.ca 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lea Ann 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 2:51 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold


  Hello Cliff,

  Whether Bill sends you the info or not... if you want to make your own 
colloidal gold, I highly suggest joining the colloidal gold yahoo group at:  
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cg_exchange/

  They discuss all kinds of set ups for making CG, saftey, and how to make 
improvements on their systems/proceedures.

  There is a lot of knowledge on that list!

  Best Regards,
  Lea Ann Savage
  Satellite Beach, FL
  321-773-7088
- Original Message - 
From: cliff hume 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold


Would you please send the information on CG to Cliff at: ch...@shaw.ca   I 
want to make my own if at all possible. Thank you.

Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[cliff hume]

I wasn't able to get in.

Cliff ch...@shaw.ca



- Original Message - 
From: "William Amos" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 1:15 AM
Subject: CS>Re:Re: CS>Colloidal Gold



Hi Guys:
I too suggest you get all the information you can before trying CG. You 
will be dealing with High Voltage AC.
Also most methods require a high voltage arc, which I dont care for, and 
it can also produce traces on nitric acid in the solution. I use the total 
submersion method without an arc and a combination of HVAC and LVDC.
If it's ok with Mike, I will put some info on this afternoon, since the 
weather outside is frightful, and the fire is so delightful.

Bill Amos

--
Hello Cliff,

Whether Bill sends you the info or not... if you want to make your own 
colloidal gold, I highly suggest joining the colloidal gold yahoo group 
at:  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cg_exchange/


They discuss all kinds of set ups for making CG, saftey, and how to make 
improvements on their systems/proceedures.


There is a lot of knowledge on that list!

Best Regards,
Lea Ann Savage
Satellite Beach, FL
321-773-7088
 - Original Message - 
 From: cliff hume

 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 8:24 PM
 Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold


 Would you please send the information on CG to Cliff at: ch...@shaw.ca
 I
 want to make my own if at all possible. Thank you.

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CS>Re:Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[William Amos]

Hi:
I have it at a lab right now, no results yet. It does have a stronger tyndall 
than any silver I have made. I would guess I  can make a pint for forty cents.
Easier...yes,  I have it set up on timers. I turn it  on and leave
You may be right about the product you mention, but I know the results of using 
my CG.
Color could also indicate larger particles.Remember, I haven't finished telling 
my story on how I make it yet, and nobody has explained why it has to have 
color or what the color means.
Bill
.P.S. I won't hold my breath on the treats.
--
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significant ppm of CG means the solution has color, then if you have a  CG 
solution with no color, perhaps the ppm is less than 1. Which perhaps  means 
that the homeopathic remedy Aurum Metallicum in the lower  potencies (where 
some original substance is still in the remedy, might  work just as well? Tons 
cheaper, and easier.

Have you ever had a batch of your CG tested by a lab?

How much do you figure it costs you in electricity to make a batch of  CG, and 
how large is a batch? 
TIA,
sol
P.S. Still making the treats. Haven't sent any yet. Hope to but it is  getting 
really late.

William Amos wrote:

>Hi sol
>I don't know who set the standards as to the color of CG.
>Without making any claims, I am told there are results.
>
>It is used for arthritis, mental acuity, dipsomania, which is the 
>uncontrollable desire for alcohol and other types of pain.
>Are you sending any of your friends any of those goodies you made ?   Bill 
>Amos 
>  
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Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[sol]

The main thing about the color, that I am interested in,  is if to have 
significant ppm of CG means the solution has color, then if you have a 
CG solution with no color, perhaps the ppm is less than 1. Which perhaps 
means that the homeopathic remedy Aurum Metallicum in the lower 
potencies (where some original substance is still in the remedy, might 
work just as well? Tons cheaper, and easier.


Have you ever had a batch of your CG tested by a lab?

How much do you figure it costs you in electricity to make a batch of 
CG, and how large is a batch?

TIA,
sol
P.S. Still making the treats. Haven't sent any yet. Hope to but it is 
getting really late.


William Amos wrote:


Hi sol
I don't know who set the standards as to the color of CG.
Without making any claims, I am told there are results.

It is used for arthritis, mental acuity, dipsomania, which is the 
uncontrollable desire for alcohol and other types of pain.
Are you sending any of your friends any of those goodies you made ?   Bill Amos 
 




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CS>Re:Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[William Amos]

Hi sol
I don't know who set the standards as to the color of CG.
Without making any claims, I am told there are results.

It is used for arthritis, mental acuity, dipsomania, which is the 
uncontrollable desire for alcohol and other types of pain.
Are you sending any of your friends any of those goodies you made ?   Bill Amos 
--
What I'd like is some links to sites that give info on why one would use  CG. 
Also I'm confused. One site I read said CG ALWAYS has some color,  even at 1 
ppm, and that red/rose is best. But I believe Bill, you said  your CG is clear? 
So is your CG considerably less than 1 ppm, or what?  I'd really like some 
clarification on the CG color issue, before I  actually purchase any.
Since I'm a total klutz, and also suffer some lack of concentration, I  doubt 
I'll ever want to make my own, as the combination of clumsy and  inattention 
and high voltage is probably not a good idea, to say the  least. So I'll 
probably be buying CG if I want to try it.
TIA,
sol

William Amos wrote:

>Hi Guys:
>I too suggest you get all the information you can before trying CG. You will 
>be dealing with High Voltage AC.
>Also most methods require a high voltage arc, which I dont care for, and it 
>can also produce traces on nitric acid in the solution. I use the total 
>submersion method without an arc and a combination of HVAC and LVDC. 
>If it's ok with Mike, I will put some info on this afternoon, since the 
>weather outside is frightful, and the fire is so delightful.
>Bill Amos
>
>
>  
>


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Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[sol]

What I'd like is some links to sites that give info on why one would use 
CG. Also I'm confused. One site I read said CG ALWAYS has some color, 
even at 1 ppm, and that red/rose is best. But I believe Bill, you said 
your CG is clear? So is your CG considerably less than 1 ppm, or what? 
I'd really like some clarification on the CG color issue, before I 
actually purchase any.
Since I'm a total klutz, and also suffer some lack of concentration, I 
doubt I'll ever want to make my own, as the combination of clumsy and 
inattention and high voltage is probably not a good idea, to say the 
least. So I'll probably be buying CG if I want to try it.

TIA,
sol

William Amos wrote:


Hi Guys:
I too suggest you get all the information you can before trying CG. You will be 
dealing with High Voltage AC.
Also most methods require a high voltage arc, which I dont care for, and it can also produce traces on nitric acid in the solution. I use the total submersion method without an arc and a combination of HVAC and LVDC. 
If it's ok with Mike, I will put some info on this afternoon, since the weather outside is frightful, and the fire is so delightful.

Bill Amos


 




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CS>Re:Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[William Amos]

Hi Guys:
I too suggest you get all the information you can before trying CG. You will be 
dealing with High Voltage AC.
Also most methods require a high voltage arc, which I dont care for, and it can 
also produce traces on nitric acid in the solution. I use the total submersion 
method without an arc and a combination of HVAC and LVDC. 
If it's ok with Mike, I will put some info on this afternoon, since the weather 
outside is frightful, and the fire is so delightful.
Bill Amos

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Hello Cliff,

Whether Bill sends you the info or not... if you want to make your own  
colloidal gold, I highly suggest joining the colloidal gold yahoo group  at:  
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cg_exchange/

They discuss all kinds of set ups for making CG, saftey, and how to make  
improvements on their systems/proceedures.

There is a lot of knowledge on that list!

Best Regards,
Lea Ann Savage
Satellite Beach, FL
321-773-7088
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  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 8:24 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold


  Would you please send the information on CG to Cliff at: ch...@shaw.ca 
  I 
  want to make my own if at all possible. Thank you.

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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Lea Ann]

OOps, I just saw that someone else already posted the same advice... sorry for 
the duplication!

Best Regards,
Lea Ann Savage
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  Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 9:15 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold



  Join the yahoo colloidal gold group

  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cg_exchange/

Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Lea Ann]

Hello Cliff,

Whether Bill sends you the info or not... if you want to make your own 
colloidal gold, I highly suggest joining the colloidal gold yahoo group at:  
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cg_exchange/

They discuss all kinds of set ups for making CG, saftey, and how to make 
improvements on their systems/proceedures.

There is a lot of knowledge on that list!

Best Regards,
Lea Ann Savage
Satellite Beach, FL
321-773-7088
  - Original Message - 
  From: cliff hume 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 8:24 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold


  Would you please send the information on CG to Cliff at: ch...@shaw.ca   I 
  want to make my own if at all possible. Thank you.

Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Stepbystepltd]

I would appreciate some info too. I would like to try it.
Thanks,
Vitale

Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[fg227]

Join the yahoo colloidal gold group

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cg_exchange/





- Original Message -
From: "cliff hume" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold


> Would you please send the information on CG to Cliff at: ch...@shaw.ca   I
> want to make my own if at all possible. Thank you.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dan Nave" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 3:24 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold
>
>
> > In that case, I would be interested in receiving the info if you
> > can find the time to prepare it.  You can either send it to me
> > personally or to the list.  I would opt for the list as I expect
> > that there will be a few others who would be interested as well.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > Re: CS>Colloidal Gold
> >
> > * From: William Amos (view other messages by this author)
> > * Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 11:42:01
> >
> > Hi Dan:
> > I would be more than happy to share this information with anyone
> > interested. It would take a little time to prepare it in detail and
> > perhaps send it in on a computer, since I only use a mailstation. My
> > daughter takes care of those things since my time is limited on
messages.
> >
> > Bill Amos
> > --
> > Can you describe your process in more detail, or is it secret?
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> > CS>Re:Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Colloidal Gold
> >
> > From: William Amos (view other messages by this author)  Date: Thu, 16
Dec
> > 2004 11:50:07
> >
>
> --
--
> >
> > Hello Again:
> > My CG is totally clear. I was never concerned about any color. I
> > experimented for nearly 2 years, off & on, before finding a simple but
> > complicated method
> > of making it with HVAC and LVDC in combination. I have sent it to be
> > tested, with no results yet.
> >
> > The important thing is what I have been told " it has helped "
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[cliff hume]

Would you please send the information on CG to Cliff at: ch...@shaw.ca   I 
want to make my own if at all possible. Thank you.



- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Nave" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold



In that case, I would be interested in receiving the info if you
can find the time to prepare it.  You can either send it to me
personally or to the list.  I would opt for the list as I expect
that there will be a few others who would be interested as well.

Thanks,

Dan


Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

* From: William Amos (view other messages by this author)
* Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 11:42:01

Hi Dan:
I would be more than happy to share this information with anyone 
interested. It would take a little time to prepare it in detail and 
perhaps send it in on a computer, since I only use a mailstation. My 
daughter takes care of those things since my time is limited on messages.


Bill Amos
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Dan



CS>Re:Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

From: William Amos (view other messages by this author)  Date: Thu, 16 Dec 
2004 11:50:07




Hello Again:
My CG is totally clear. I was never concerned about any color. I 
experimented for nearly 2 years, off & on, before finding a simple but 
complicated method
of making it with HVAC and LVDC in combination. I have sent it to be 
tested, with no results yet.


The important thing is what I have been told " it has helped "

Bill



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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Dan Nave]

In that case, I would be interested in receiving the info if you
can find the time to prepare it.  You can either send it to me
personally or to the list.  I would opt for the list as I expect
that there will be a few others who would be interested as well.

Thanks,

Dan


Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

* From: William Amos (view other messages by this author)
* Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 11:42:01

Hi Dan:
I would be more than happy to share this information with anyone interested. It 
would take a little time to prepare it in detail and perhaps send it in on a 
computer, since I only use a mailstation. My daughter takes care of those things 
since my time is limited on messages.


Bill Amos
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Dan



CS>Re:Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

From: William Amos (view other messages by this author)  Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 
11:50:07




Hello Again:
My CG is totally clear. I was never concerned about any color. I experimented 
for nearly 2 years, off & on, before finding a simple but complicated method
of making it with HVAC and LVDC in combination. I have sent it to be tested, 
with no results yet.


The important thing is what I have been told " it has helped "

Bill



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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[William Amos]

Hii Dan:
I would be more than happy to share this information with anyone interested. It 
would take a little time to prepare it in detail and perhaps send it in on a 
computer, since I only use a mailstation. My daughter takes care of those 
things since my time is limited on messages.  
Bill Amos
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CS>Re:Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

From: William Amos (view other messages by this author)  Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 
11:50:07 



Hello Again:
My CG is totally clear. I was never concerned about any color. I experimented 
for nearly 2 years, off & on, before finding a simple but complicated method
of making it with HVAC and LVDC in combination. I have sent it to be tested, 
with no results yet. 

The important thing is what I have been told " it has helped " Bill



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CS>Re:Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Dan Nave]

Can you describe your process in more detail, or is it secret?

Dan



CS>Re:Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

From: William Amos (view other messages by this author) 
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 11:50:07 



Hello Again:
My CG is totally clear. I was never concerned about any color.
I experimented for nearly 2 years, off & on, before finding a simple
but complicated method
of making it with HVAC and LVDC in combination. I have sent it to be
tested, with no results yet. 

The important thing is what I have been told " it has helped "
Bill



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CS>Re:Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[William Amos]

Hello Again:
My CG is totally clear. I was never concerned about any color.
I experimented for nearly 2 years, off & on, before finding a simple but 
complicated method of making it with HVAC and LVDC in combination. I have sent 
it to be tested, with no results yet. 
The important thing is what I have been told " it has helped "
Bill
--
What color is your CG? I am just beginning to look into CG, have looked  at it 
only very briefly, did not think seriously about it due to the  expense. I 
still have a trial of homeopathic gold I want to do first,  but am starting to 
compile info.
TIA,
sol

William Amos wrote:

> <>I'm not sure that it would, but I make CG and have to prepare the 
> water and use HVAC first and then use 30 vdc
> to finish the product.
> The tyndall effect is always much stronger than CS.
> The RESULTS are amazing. It is not a simple process and doesn't 
> require underwater arcing.
> Bill Amos
> --
> I seriously doubt that this set up would produce colloidal gold. I 
> wish the folks who know the requirements of a gen to make CG would 
> weigh in on this.
> sol
>
> -Original Message-
> I use 3x 9 volt batteries in series


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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[adrian]

Yep, in a multi-dimensional universe there's more than dozens of ways to 
kill cats.


adrian

Marshall Dudley wrote:

Some here may find these interesting.

Methods of making gold colloids:

http://www.nd.edu/~pkamat/synthesis/metals.html
http://www.sas.org/E-Bulletin/2003-10-31/chem/


Marshall



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Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[sol]

What color is your CG? I am just beginning to look into CG, have looked 
at it only very briefly, did not think seriously about it due to the 
expense. I still have a trial of homeopathic gold I want to do first, 
but am starting to compile info.

TIA,
sol

William Amos wrote:

<>I'm not sure that it would, but I make CG and have to prepare the 
water and use HVAC first and then use 30 vdc

to finish the product.
The tyndall effect is always much stronger than CS.
The RESULTS are amazing. It is not a simple process and doesn't 
require underwater arcing.

Bill Amos
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I seriously doubt that this set up would produce colloidal gold. I 
wish the folks who know the requirements of a gen to make CG would 
weigh in on this.

sol

-Original Message-
I use 3x 9 volt batteries in series,

 




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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Trem]

Whew, Marshall.  Not for those of us that are not versed in chemistry.  I
marvel that anyone can do those tricks.

Trem

- Original Message -
From: "Marshall Dudley" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold


> Some here may find these interesting.
>
> Methods of making gold colloids:
>
> http://www.nd.edu/~pkamat/synthesis/metals.html
> http://www.sas.org/E-Bulletin/2003-10-31/chem/
>
>
> Marshall
>
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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Marshall Dudley]

Some here may find these interesting.

Methods of making gold colloids:

http://www.nd.edu/~pkamat/synthesis/metals.html
http://www.sas.org/E-Bulletin/2003-10-31/chem/


Marshall



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CS>Re:Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[William Amos]

I'm not sure that it would, but I make CG and have to prepare the water and use 
HVAC first and then use 30 vdc
to finish the product. 
The tyndall effect is always much stronger than CS.
The RESULTS are amazing. It is not a simple process and doesn't require 
underwater arcing. 
Bill Amos
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sol

> <>
>
> -Original Message-
> I use 3x 9 volt batteries in series,
> so they produce 27 volts, two crocodile clips, a large jam jar. fixed
> some clips on the edge of the jar with a rubber band to hold the croco
> clips, bought some pure silver and gold, cost me 66 bucks for that, the
> +setup about 20 bucks. pour in distilled water to the top of the silver
> and gold. The size was 1 cm x 5 cm at 0.2 mm thick. I can now make c
> silver ands gold for the rest of my life for cents a liter
>
> adrian


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[adrian]

So nice to know you care. I'm glad you write "believe". I'm not so sure 
you are right, but time will tell. I don't sky dive, I sky fly, but not 
in the ordinary sky.


Would somebody care to explain why my use of that word "blighter' caused 
such a background furore. It all reminds me of a line in a poem by my 
old professor about "those foreigners with their unintelligible 
cooking". To me words are just noises we make, what they mean or are

taken to mean, is quite something else it seems.x

I rather doubt my *setup* will change, but that's another story.

adrian.


cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

I believe Adrian is deriving many benefits from his colloidal silver
(made with a rather expensive anode).
Colloidal gold, however, is a high voltage underwater arcing process.

I see that he has joined the CG group, so I expect his setup will
change if he wishes to pursue CG making.

Chuck
 If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.

On 12/15/2004 3:53:18 AM, silver-list@eskimo.com wrote:


I seriously doubt that this set up would produce colloidal gold.
I wish the folks who know the requirements of a gen to make CG would 
weigh in on this.

sol



<>

-Original Message-
I use 3x 9 volt batteries in series,
so they produce 17 volts, two crocodile clips, a large jam jar. fixed
some clips on the edge of the jar with a rubber band to hold the croco
clips, bought some pure silver and gold, cost me 66 bucks for that, the
+setup about 20 bucks. pour in distilled water to the top of the silver
and gold. The size was 1 cm x 5 cm at 0.2 mm thick. I can now make c
silver ands gold for the rest of my life for cents a liter

adrian









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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[cking001]

I believe Adrian is deriving many benefits from his colloidal silver
(made with a rather expensive anode).
Colloidal gold, however, is a high voltage underwater arcing process.

I see that he has joined the CG group, so I expect his setup will
change if he wishes to pursue CG making.

Chuck
 If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.

On 12/15/2004 3:53:18 AM, silver-list@eskimo.com wrote:
>I seriously doubt that this set up would produce colloidal gold.
>I wish the folks who know the requirements of a gen to make CG would 
>weigh in on this.
>sol
>
>> <>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> I use 3x 9 volt batteries in series,
>> so they produce 17 volts, two crocodile clips, a large jam jar. fixed
>> some clips on the edge of the jar with a rubber band to hold the croco
>> clips, bought some pure silver and gold, cost me 66 bucks for that, the
>> +setup about 20 bucks. pour in distilled water to the top of the silver
>> and gold. The size was 1 cm x 5 cm at 0.2 mm thick. I can now make c
>> silver ands gold for the rest of my life for cents a liter
>>
>> adrian
>>
>>


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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[sol]

I seriously doubt that this set up would produce colloidal gold.
I wish the folks who know the requirements of a gen to make CG would 
weigh in on this.

sol


<>

-Original Message-
I use 3x 9 volt batteries in series,
so they produce 17 volts, two crocodile clips, a large jam jar. fixed
some clips on the edge of the jar with a rubber band to hold the croco
clips, bought some pure silver and gold, cost me 66 bucks for that, the
+setup about 20 bucks. pour in distilled water to the top of the silver
and gold. The size was 1 cm x 5 cm at 0.2 mm thick. I can now make c
silver ands gold for the rest of my life for cents a liter

adrian




 




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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[adrian]

Not quite sure what you mean by "placement" Get jar, put rubber band on 
top, where the screwtop is, make wire hangers, poke in clips so they fit 
inside on the edge, attach silver and gold strips in clips, pour in 
water, aqua distillata. Attach the series gumbo to the 3 batteries, and 
wait for an hour. By that time it starts producing bubbles at the 
cathode and goes blackish, which I imagine is water impurities and  the 
metal being short of pure from 0.9, etc. Make sure the h20 does not 
touch the clips, although a bit of chrome is anti-diabetic anyhow.  I 
made this lot first as CS and then added the gold. It sort of looks 
greyish and a laser does not show up any particles.  The neck of the jar 
is about 4 inches, and that's the distance of the metal bits. DC takes a 
wee while at low amperage to get its act together, and I imagine that 
the moment it starts to do things I can see the particles are getting 
into atomic sizes and go molecular, which is not good.


That what you wanted?

adrian.



Ed Kasper wrote:

Adrian  do you use one silver one gold ? can you describe the placement of
the silver/gold.

thanks

ed

-Original Message-



Make your own, it's MUCH cheaper. I use 3x 9 volt batteries in series,
so they produce 17 volts, two crocodile clips, a large jam jar. fixed
some clips on the edge of the jar with a rubber band to hold the croco
clips, bought some pure silver and gold, cost me 66 bucks for that, the
+setup about 20 bucks. pour in distilled water to the top of the silver
and gold. The size was 1 cm x 5 cm at 0.2 mm thick. I can now make c
silver ands gold for the rest of my life for cents a liter
I've also given it to friends.
 adrian




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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[adrian]

You're confusing a factory with nature, or may be some people have 
alligator minds?


adrian


Dan Nave wrote:

Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

From: fg227 wrote:
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 02:39:33 






We have alligator clips in USA and you have crocodile clips in NZ. I


wonder


if they're the same thing :)





Dan





Alligator clips have a long and narrow jaw which comes to almost a
point at the nose.

Crocodile clips have a blunt nose with a wider jaw.

To "Tweak" is to make adjustments...

(Sheesh...)

Dan




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RE: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Ed Kasper]

Adrian  do you use one silver one gold ? can you describe the placement of
the silver/gold.

thanks

ed

-Original Message-

>
> Make your own, it's MUCH cheaper. I use 3x 9 volt batteries in series,
> so they produce 17 volts, two crocodile clips, a large jam jar. fixed
> some clips on the edge of the jar with a rubber band to hold the croco
> clips, bought some pure silver and gold, cost me 66 bucks for that, the
> +setup about 20 bucks. pour in distilled water to the top of the silver
> and gold. The size was 1 cm x 5 cm at 0.2 mm thick. I can now make c
> silver ands gold for the rest of my life for cents a liter
> I've also given it to friends.
>   adrian


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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[elle roberts]

I wonder this too ... is the gold real? I dont think so.
What have other list members to say about this?
Has anybody consulted Karl?
h
elle
>From: "Dan Nave" 
>Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>To: 
>Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold
>Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 09:35:28 -0600
>
>Re: CS>Colloidal Gold
>
>From: fg227 wrote:
>Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 02:39:33
>
>
>
> >We have alligator clips in USA and you have crocodile clips in NZ. I
>wonder
> >if they're the same thing :)
>
>
> >Dan
>
>
>
>Alligator clips have a long and narrow jaw which comes to almost a
>point at the nose.
>
>Crocodile clips have a blunt nose with a wider jaw.
>
>To "Tweak" is to make adjustments...
>
>(Sheesh...)
>
>Dan
>
>
>
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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Dan Nave]

Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

From: fg227 wrote:
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 02:39:33 



>We have alligator clips in USA and you have crocodile clips in NZ. I
wonder
>if they're the same thing :)


>Dan



Alligator clips have a long and narrow jaw which comes to almost a
point at the nose.

Crocodile clips have a blunt nose with a wider jaw.

To "Tweak" is to make adjustments...

(Sheesh...)

Dan




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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[fg227]

Very unique way to make colloidal gold. I invite you to post your colloidal
gold ideas over at this yahoo group:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cg_exchange/

Others are also making colloidal gold at home

We have alligator clips in USA and you have crocodile clips in NZ. I wonder
if they're the same thing :)


Dan





- Original Message -
From: "adrian" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold


>
> Make your own, it's MUCH cheaper. I use 3x 9 volt batteries in series,
> so they produce 17 volts, two crocodile clips, a large jam jar. fixed
> some clips on the edge of the jar with a rubber band to hold the croco
> clips, bought some pure silver and gold, cost me 66 bucks for that, the
> +setup about 20 bucks. pour in distilled water to the top of the silver
> and gold. The size was 1 cm x 5 cm at 0.2 mm thick. I can now make c
> silver ands gold for the rest of my life for cents a liter
> I've also given it to friends.
>   adrian
>
>
> fg227 wrote:
> > Inspiral
> > http://www.mega-health.com/
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > *From:* C. Hatzfeld <mailto:ch...@comcast.net>
> > *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>
> > *Sent:* Monday, December 13, 2004 6:24 PM
> > *Subject:* CS>Colloidal Gold
> >
> > Hi, all.  I am interested in purchasing some Colloidal Gold.  Can
> > anyone recommend or tell me which brands to consider?
> >
> > Thanks!!
> >
> > Cindy
>
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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[adrian]

Make your own, it's MUCH cheaper. I use 3x 9 volt batteries in series, 
so they produce 17 volts, two crocodile clips, a large jam jar. fixed 
some clips on the edge of the jar with a rubber band to hold the croco 
clips, bought some pure silver and gold, cost me 66 bucks for that, the 
+setup about 20 bucks. pour in distilled water to the top of the silver 
and gold. The size was 1 cm x 5 cm at 0.2 mm thick. I can now make c 
silver ands gold for the rest of my life for cents a liter

I've also given it to friends.
 adrian


fg227 wrote:

Inspiral
http://www.mega-health.com/
 


- Original Message -
*From:* C. Hatzfeld <mailto:ch...@comcast.net>
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>
*Sent:* Monday, December 13, 2004 6:24 PM
*Subject:* CS>Colloidal Gold

Hi, all.  I am interested in purchasing some Colloidal Gold.  Can
anyone recommend or tell me which brands to consider? 
 
Thanks!!
 
Cindy



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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[fg227]

Inspiral
http://www.mega-health.com/

  - Original Message - 
  From: C. Hatzfeld 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 6:24 PM
  Subject: CS>Colloidal Gold


  Hi, all.  I am interested in purchasing some Colloidal Gold.  Can anyone 
recommend or tell me which brands to consider?  

  Thanks!!

  Cindy

Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Lea Ann]

Karl on the colloidal gold list:  cg_excha...@yahoogroups.com 

makes a VERY good quality colloidal gold and sells it at a very good price.

Best Regards,
Lea Ann Savage
Satellite Beach, FL
321-773-7088
  - Original Message - 
  From: C. Hatzfeld 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 6:24 PM
  Subject: CS>Colloidal Gold


  Hi, all.  I am interested in purchasing some Colloidal Gold.  Can anyone 
recommend or tell me which brands to consider?  

  Thanks!!

  Cindy

CS>Colloidal Gold

[C. Hatzfeld]

Hi, all.  I am interested in purchasing some Colloidal Gold.  Can anyone 
recommend or tell me which brands to consider?  

Thanks!!

Cindy

CS>Colloidal Gold List

[Garnet]

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cg_exchange


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CS>Colloidal Gold---Marshall

[William Amos]

Hi:
It took me nearly a year to come up with a procedure to make Colloidal Gold. 

I just recently started making it and a few people have tried it.
It is used for pain and arthritis relief.  It is also used for emotional 
problems. I have had only two people reply after taking it. One 87 year old 
lady with arthritis and my daughter with fibromyalgia. Both say they had some 
relief.

I can best direct you to more information on the web site at
www.colloidalgold.com 

Bill Amos


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CS>Colloidal gold making. New Yahoo group with photos of experiments

[fig227]

Thanks

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cg_exchange/messages



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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Marshall Dudley]

The process is called sputtering.  Basically a plasma will result in a stream
of high speed ions toward the electrode if the polarity is correct.  When an
ion hits the electrode, it will knock a chunk of atoms (one or a few) off of
the electode, which will then move with the plasma until it reaches something
that is solid or liquid and cool, where it instantly condenses onto the
surface.  In the case of an underwater arc, the surface will be the
water/steam interface of the bubble the plazma is in.  If it is in a liquid,
then instead of forming a mirror finish on the surface like it does on a
solid surface, it will move into the liquid forming a colloid.

There is another similar process called evaporation, but this requires a
rather hard vacuum, and red hot tempertures to accomplish.

Marshall

"Jonathan B. Britten" wrote:

> A non-engineer's quick question:  is a user at risk of electrocution
> with a high-voltage plasma unit?
>
> I am familiar with plasma generation of ozone, via the SOTA web site.
> I had no idea that plasma (which I understand only dimly) could be used
> to generate colloids.Perhaps a few other list members would
> appreciate a very succinct, plain-English explanation of the basic
> operating principles.  I certainly would!   Thanks in advance . . . .
>
> JBB
>
> On Wednesday, Mar 17, 2004, at 12:47 Asia/Tokyo, 
> wrote:
>
> > The PS15 is a PLASMA GENERATION Unit, which offers the user full
> > adjustability from 0-15,000 volts.
> > This unit can be used to experiment with HVAC Colloidal Silver, Copper,
> > Zinc, Gold and Platinum liquids. It creates ozone too.
> > 
> >
> >  http://www.pridelabs.us/cs/systems.htm
> >
> > I have one and it does the trick for silver and gold.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> > ____
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "S Nowell" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 5:48 PM
> > Subject: CS>Colloidal Gold
> >
> >
> >> Charlie, try
> >> http://www.pridelabs.us/cs/systems.htm
> >> Look for their PLASMA GENERATION Unit. WOW
> >>
> >> Tchau
> >> Sam
> >>
> >> Charlie wrote
> >>
> >> Here's a question which could be taken off line if
> >> someone wants to
> >> respond...
> >>
> >> I take it that one or more of the members of this list
> >> have developed
> >> the technology to generate colloidal gold using HVDC.
> >> Could someone
> >> direct me to a site that sells a reliable machine?
> >> Does such a site
> >> exist?
> >>
> >> charlie
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[fig227]

- Original Message -
From: "Jonathan B. Britten" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold


> A non-engineer's quick question:  is a user at risk of electrocution
> with a high-voltage plasma unit?
>
> I am familiar with plasma generation of ozone, via the SOTA web site.
> I had no idea that plasma (which I understand only dimly) could be used
> to generate colloids.Perhaps a few other list members would
> appreciate a very succinct, plain-English explanation of the basic
> operating principles.  I certainly would!   Thanks in advance . . . .


I have used my PS15 unit for about 3 months to make colloidal gold and
colloidal silver.

My main reason was to make colloidal gold. It came with gold, copper and
silver electrodes. My humble opinion, the silver is much better than that
produced by low voltage DC. And it can make gold and silver colloids very
quicklymuch faster than low voltage DC silver is produced. My high
voltage unit produces colloids via what Pride Labs calls polarized DC.  For
a better explanation you must talk to them

There is little chance of shocking yourself with this unit. I have spent 2
hours on the phone with the people in Portland Oregon who make this unit and
I am very happy with their explanation of the science behind it. All I have
is a high school science education plus hours of tinkering around with
computers and electrical and electronic  "stuff".

For more information about the PS15 and the plasma arc generation method
etc. you must contact them.
You can mention Dan on the silver list. This is their advanced proprietary
technology. This is their intellectual property.

I must check with Pride Labs but I can probably help you via the phone if
you get this machine. To help you get up and running though the owner's
manuals are very good.


Dan






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