RE: CS>The Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics
Hi, SMS: I think I would like to try making kefir. I made some awhile back and had trouble with diarrhea after a couple of weeks. I was using unpasteurized goatsmilk produced locally from people whose outfit I trust. Don't know if I should get the grains from you since you must live in the west. I see you have pacific time. I am in Minnesota . Think I should probably get some from someone closer. I would like a copy of your directions , though. The directions I had before didn't exactly make sense to me. Thanks, Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: "sms" Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: Subject: CS>The Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 09:55:56 -0700 (Pacific Standard Time) Ruth, I can't remember if anyone suggested regular use of Pro-Biotics. If you would like to know how to make your own kefir using kefir grains and organic whole milk, let me know. Sasha From: ruth strackbein Hi, Charles, The burning pain that is very much stronger recently in the ileo area and the upper ribcage right center area, the kinks in my bowel that show up in the recent X-rays, and past experiences with my digestive track contribute to my fear. I -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour _ Hotmail to go? Get your Hotmail, news, sports and much more! http://mobile.msn.com
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Thank you for sharing, Ruth :) Looks like it is much more fiber than Benefiber which you have to take two teaspoons to get 3g of fiber. I will look for that :) Barbara Hi, Barbara, I found Fiber-sure a Clear-Mixing Fiber Supplement. sugar free, 25 calories per 1 tsp . serving, can be taken 3 times a day. The tsp. should be heaping. Total carbs 6 grams, Dietary fiber 5 grams, Soluble fiber 5 grams. That is in each heaping teaspoon or each dose. If you take it 3 times a day, you would get 15 grams of fiber.Flavor free, grit free, non-thickening. Active ingredients: Inulin, natural vegetable fiber. Distributed by Proctor and Gamble, Made in Belgium. www.fibersure.com. Mix with room temperature liquid or mashed vegetables, etc. The Inulin thing struck me in a positive way due to other posts on Eskimo.com about its value. They suggested starting with once a day and working up, but since we have been using fiber for longer, not sure if that would be necessary, still this product does have alot of fiber per dose. Glad to share. Ruth P.S. I haven't tried it yet. Am using up my unifiber which is also something you can mix with other foods, but hasn't nearly as much fiber per dose. From Ruth Strackbein
Re: CS>The Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics
Hi, Barbara, I found Fiber-sure a Clear-Mixing Fiber Supplement. sugar free, 25 calories per 1 tsp . serving, can be taken 3 times a day. The tsp. should be heaping. Total carbs 6 grams, Dietary fiber 5 grams, Soluble fiber 5 grams. That is in each heaping teaspoon or each dose. If you take it 3 times a day, you would get 15 grams of fiber.Flavor free, grit free, non-thickening. Active ingredients: Inulin, natural vegetable fiber. Distributed by Proctor and Gamble, Made in Belgium. www.fibersure.com. Mix with room temperature liquid or mashed vegetables, etc. The Inulin thing struck me in a positive way due to other posts on Eskimo.com about its value. They suggested starting with once a day and working up, but since we have been using fiber for longer, not sure if that would be necessary, still this product does have alot of fiber per dose. Glad to share. Ruth P.S. I haven't tried it yet. Am using up my unifiber which is also something you can mix with other foods, but hasn't nearly as much fiber per dose. From Ruth Strackbein From: "Barbara" Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: Subject: Re: CS>The Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 20:05:44 -0400 That's great, Ruth :) I'm glad something helped you! Can you share what did you find? Barbara Hi, Barbara, I didn't buy the Benefiber after all, found a different one that works similarly but does not have wheat. But thanks , anyway, your message sent me looking for something different. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein _ Picture this share your photos and you could win big! http://www.GETREALPhotoContest.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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That's great, Ruth :) I'm glad something helped you! Can you share what did you find? Barbara Hi, Barbara, I didn't buy the Benefiber after all, found a different one that works similarly but does not have wheat. But thanks , anyway, your message sent me looking for something different. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein
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Hi, Barbara, I didn't buy the Benefiber after all, found a different one that works similarly but does not have wheat. But thanks , anyway, your message sent me looking for something different. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: G Murray Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>The Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 18:50:06 -0600 I just googled the wheat dextrin as I had not heard of this before and wondered about Irritable bowel. Barbara wrote: I do not have any problems with Benefiber because I have no alergies and no gluten intolerances. Barbara http://www.helpforibs.com/supplements/benefiber_change.asp Benefiber Change As of July 2006, Benefiber has announced that all of their products will no longer contain partially hydrolized guar gum. Benefiber will now be made from wheat dextrin. According to a phone representative at Novartis, the makers of Benefiber, this decision was made to allow for smaller dosages and for a higher profit margin. Benefiber guar gum provided 3 grams of soluble fiber per tablespoon, whereas Benefiber wheat dextrin provides 1.5 grams of soluble fiber per teaspoon (there are three teaspoons in one tablespoon). I do not know how wheat dextrin compares to guar gum as a soluble fiber supplement for Irritable Bowel Syndrome. I would not assume that the wheat dextrin in Benefiber is safe for people with wheat allergies or gluten intolerance disorders such as celiac. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour _ Who's that on the Red Carpet? Play & win glamorous prizes. http://club.live.com/red_carpet_reveal.aspx?icid=REDCARPET_hotmailtextlink3
Re: CS>The Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics
I just googled the wheat dextrin as I had not heard of this before and wondered about Irritable bowel. Barbara wrote: I do not have any problems with Benefiber because I have no alergies and no gluten intolerances. Barbara http://www.helpforibs.com/supplements/benefiber_change.asp Benefiber Change As of July 2006, Benefiber has announced that all of their products will no longer contain partially hydrolized guar gum. Benefiber will now be made from wheat dextrin. According to a phone representative at Novartis, the makers of Benefiber, this decision was made to allow for smaller dosages and for a higher profit margin. Benefiber guar gum provided 3 grams of soluble fiber per tablespoon, whereas Benefiber wheat dextrin provides 1.5 grams of soluble fiber per teaspoon (there are three teaspoons in one tablespoon). I do not know how wheat dextrin compares to guar gum as a soluble fiber supplement for Irritable Bowel Syndrome. I would not assume that the wheat dextrin in Benefiber is safe for people with wheat allergies or gluten intolerance disorders such as celiac. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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I do not have any problems with Benefiber because I have no alergies and no gluten intolerances. Barbara http://www.helpforibs.com/supplements/benefiber_change.asp Benefiber Change As of July 2006, Benefiber has announced that all of their products will no longer contain partially hydrolized guar gum. Benefiber will now be made from wheat dextrin. According to a phone representative at Novartis, the makers of Benefiber, this decision was made to allow for smaller dosages and for a higher profit margin. Benefiber guar gum provided 3 grams of soluble fiber per tablespoon, whereas Benefiber wheat dextrin provides 1.5 grams of soluble fiber per teaspoon (there are three teaspoons in one tablespoon). I do not know how wheat dextrin compares to guar gum as a soluble fiber supplement for Irritable Bowel Syndrome. I would not assume that the wheat dextrin in Benefiber is safe for people with wheat allergies or gluten intolerance disorders such as celiac.
Re: CS>The Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics
http://www.helpforibs.com/supplements/benefiber_change.asp Benefiber Change As of July 2006, Benefiber has announced that all of their products will no longer contain partially hydrolized guar gum. Benefiber will now be made from wheat dextrin. According to a phone representative at Novartis, the makers of Benefiber, this decision was made to allow for smaller dosages and for a higher profit margin. Benefiber guar gum provided 3 grams of soluble fiber per tablespoon, whereas Benefiber wheat dextrin provides 1.5 grams of soluble fiber per teaspoon (there are three teaspoons in one tablespoon). I do not know how wheat dextrin compares to guar gum as a soluble fiber supplement for Irritable Bowel Syndrome. I would not assume that the wheat dextrin in Benefiber is safe for people with wheat allergies or gluten intolerance disorders such as celiac. Barbara wrote: Hi Ruth, Even better is the one called BENEFIBER. It contains 100% wheat dextrin and nothing else. Here is a site. http://www.benefiber.com/products/index.shtml?benefiberPowders Barbara Hi, Kathryn, I said awhile back that I would not reply anymore. I will however , but will avoid anatomy references where possible. Sometimes a bit difficult. I have found a different fiber med called Unifiber which contains Cellulose, cornsyrup solids and Xanthem gum. That isn't much better than the others, but easier to use and doesn't burn. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Hi, Barbara, I plan to try it as soon as I can get to town and get some. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: "Barbara" Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: Subject: Re: CS>The Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 19:17:09 -0400 I'm taking it for last 6 weeks or so and it works. Like you I eat no grains and no sugar so this fiber sounded good to me and it really is. I hope you will try it. Barbara Hi, Barbara, Thanks for your link. Sounds like good information. I haven't eaten any wheat or barley products for the past three years. I thought at one time that I might have celiac, but I really doubt that that is my problem. Was tested, but only after having been on the diet for 8 months, so tests were inconclusive. And the diet I chose to use is a healthy one. Eliminates all the flour products whose value has been compromised by manufacturers. But this would possibly be a better choice than the current ones I have tried. Actually no bulk producing product has ever given me relief. I have taken most of them for months at a time in past years, not recently. They just tend to stop things up faster. However, I am working with this surgeon who is trying very hard to help me avoid surgery. He isn't particular which fiber med I use, just so I use one. Again , thanks. This evening I'll go to your link. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein _ Hotmail to go? Get your Hotmail, news, sports and much more! http://mobile.msn.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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I'm taking it for last 6 weeks or so and it works. Like you I eat no grains and no sugar so this fiber sounded good to me and it really is. I hope you will try it. Barbara Hi, Barbara, Thanks for your link. Sounds like good information. I haven't eaten any wheat or barley products for the past three years. I thought at one time that I might have celiac, but I really doubt that that is my problem. Was tested, but only after having been on the diet for 8 months, so tests were inconclusive. And the diet I chose to use is a healthy one. Eliminates all the flour products whose value has been compromised by manufacturers. But this would possibly be a better choice than the current ones I have tried. Actually no bulk producing product has ever given me relief. I have taken most of them for months at a time in past years, not recently. They just tend to stop things up faster. However, I am working with this surgeon who is trying very hard to help me avoid surgery. He isn't particular which fiber med I use, just so I use one. Again , thanks. This evening I'll go to your link. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein
Re: CS>The Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics
Hi, Barbara, Thanks for your link. Sounds like good information. I haven't eaten any wheat or barley products for the past three years. I thought at one time that I might have celiac, but I really doubt that that is my problem. Was tested, but only after having been on the diet for 8 months, so tests were inconclusive. And the diet I chose to use is a healthy one. Eliminates all the flour products whose value has been compromised by manufacturers. But this would possibly be a better choice than the current ones I have tried. Actually no bulk producing product has ever given me relief. I have taken most of them for months at a time in past years, not recently. They just tend to stop things up faster. However, I am working with this surgeon who is trying very hard to help me avoid surgery. He isn't particular which fiber med I use, just so I use one. Again , thanks. This evening I'll go to your link. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: "Barbara" Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: Subject: Re: CS>The Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:33:08 -0400 Hi Ruth, Even better is the one called BENEFIBER. It contains 100% wheat dextrin and nothing else. Here is a site. http://www.benefiber.com/products/index.shtml?benefiberPowders Barbara Hi, Kathryn, I said awhile back that I would not reply anymore. I will however , but will avoid anatomy references where possible. Sometimes a bit difficult. I have found a different fiber med called Unifiber which contains Cellulose, cornsyrup solids and Xanthem gum. That isn't much better than the others, but easier to use and doesn't burn. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein _ Get a preview of Live Earth, the hottest event this summer - only on MSN http://liveearth.msn.com?source=msntaglineliveearthhm -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Hi Ruth, Even better is the one called BENEFIBER. It contains 100% wheat dextrin and nothing else. Here is a site. http://www.benefiber.com/products/index.shtml?benefiberPowders Barbara Hi, Kathryn, I said awhile back that I would not reply anymore. I will however , but will avoid anatomy references where possible. Sometimes a bit difficult. I have found a different fiber med called Unifiber which contains Cellulose, cornsyrup solids and Xanthem gum. That isn't much better than the others, but easier to use and doesn't burn. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein
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Hi Kathryn,. I have tried Flaxseed both oil and ground. Didn' t seem to agree with me as so many things don't. Charles probablyhas found the answer, at least to my upper burning. I have not been paying attention to gallbladder messages since I don't have one any more. However, the symptoms I have are exactly the ones listed under gallbladder problems in the site Charles referred me to. Pain under center right ribcage, sometimes going to right shoulder. I have it right now. The kits referred to in the gallbladder site, are very expensive from my point of view. Will run this past my regular doctors before ordering anything. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: Clayton Family Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>The Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 08:19:35 -0500 Ruth, is citrucel like metamucil? I thought that was the same as flax seeds ground up. They are pretty cheap, and can be ground in the kitchen blender using a jelly jar instead of the big blender pitcher. But if things burn going down, what does he say about that? Well, best wishes. -Kathryn On Jun 26, 2007, at 2:52 PM, ruth strackbein wrote: Hi , Sasha, I have used probiotics in the recent past. Lately have been involved with this routine the surgeon gave me to see if we can get my bowel to work properly without the surgery. I have very little confidence in his scheme, but if surgery becomes necessary he will probably be the one to do it. Have gone to a clinic that deals only with gastroenterology. Saw a gastroenterologist there, After examining all my volume of records, he said emphatically that surgery is necessary. He referred me to this surgeon who does not think it is necessary. He is willing to work with me to develop a technique to accomplish this. Trouble is he wants me to use fiber medicine like Citrucel. I had used that years ago without success, but tried it out. It burns going down, not good. Is full of sugar and flavorings which I have avoided like the plague for 3 years. I guess I am not convinced either way about the surgery. I know I have to get back on a better track somehow. Ruth -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour _ PC Magazines 2007 editors choice for best Web mailaward-winning Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507
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Hi, Kathryn, I said awhile back that I would not reply anymore. I will however , but will avoid anatomy references where possible. Sometimes a bit difficult. I have found a different fiber med called Unifiber which contains Cellulose, cornsyrup solids and Xanthem gum. That isn't much better than the others, but easier to use and doesn't burn. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: G Murray Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>The Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 08:22:38 -0600 http://www.citrucel.com/citrucel_benefits.aspx Other fiber powders, including Metamucil, contain psyllium. Psyllium can ferment in your body to produce excess gas. The fiber in Citrucel, methylcellulose, can't ferment so it will not produce excess gas*. http://www.gicare.com/pated/methylcellulose.htm What is methylcellulose? This product is a synthetic chemical that loves water. It stays within the intestinal tract and is not absorbed. By attracting and holding water, it creates a softer stool. It is not a true harsh stimulant laxative which should be taken only occasionally. Methylcellulose can be taken long-term. Since it absorbs fluid, it may be helpful at times for diarrhea. It does not lower cholesterol.. How about side effects? Adverse reactions can occur with any drug, even over-the-counter medications. Some of these are mild such as a stomach upset, which may be avoided by taking the medication with food. Minor reactions may go away on their own but if they persist, contact the physician. For major reactions, the patient should contact the physician immediately. For methylcellulose, the following are the observed side effects: Minor: * bloating * diarrhea * rumbling sounds * nausea * mild abdominal cramps Major: * severe abdominal pain * vomiting * difficulty swallowing Clayton Family wrote: Ruth, is citrucel like metamucil? I thought that was the same as flax seeds ground up. They are pretty cheap, and can be ground in the kitchen blender using a jelly jar instead of the big blender pitcher. But if things burn going down, what does he say about that? Well, best wishes. -Kathryn -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour _ Who's that on the Red Carpet? Play & win glamorous prizes. http://club.live.com/red_carpet_reveal.aspx?icid=REDCARPET_hotmailtextlink3
Re: CS>The Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics
http://www.citrucel.com/citrucel_benefits.aspx Other fiber powders, including Metamucil, contain psyllium. Psyllium can ferment in your body to produce excess gas. The fiber in Citrucel, methylcellulose, can't ferment so it will not produce excess gas*. http://www.gicare.com/pated/methylcellulose.htm What is methylcellulose? This product is a synthetic chemical that loves water. It stays within the intestinal tract and is not absorbed. By attracting and holding water, it creates a softer stool. It is not a true harsh stimulant laxative which should be taken only occasionally. Methylcellulose can be taken long-term. Since it absorbs fluid, it may be helpful at times for diarrhea. It does not lower cholesterol.. How about side effects? Adverse reactions can occur with any drug, even over-the-counter medications. Some of these are mild such as a stomach upset, which may be avoided by taking the medication with food. Minor reactions may go away on their own but if they persist, contact the physician. For major reactions, the patient should contact the physician immediately. For methylcellulose, the following are the observed side effects: Minor: * bloating * diarrhea * rumbling sounds * nausea * mild abdominal cramps Major: * severe abdominal pain * vomiting * difficulty swallowing Clayton Family wrote: Ruth, is citrucel like metamucil? I thought that was the same as flax seeds ground up. They are pretty cheap, and can be ground in the kitchen blender using a jelly jar instead of the big blender pitcher. But if things burn going down, what does he say about that? Well, best wishes. -Kathryn -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>The Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics
Ruth, is citrucel like metamucil? I thought that was the same as flax seeds ground up. They are pretty cheap, and can be ground in the kitchen blender using a jelly jar instead of the big blender pitcher. But if things burn going down, what does he say about that? Well, best wishes. -Kathryn On Jun 26, 2007, at 2:52 PM, ruth strackbein wrote: Hi , Sasha, I have used probiotics in the recent past. Lately have been involved with this routine the surgeon gave me to see if we can get my bowel to work properly without the surgery. I have very little confidence in his scheme, but if surgery becomes necessary he will probably be the one to do it. Have gone to a clinic that deals only with gastroenterology. Saw a gastroenterologist there, After examining all my volume of records, he said emphatically that surgery is necessary. He referred me to this surgeon who does not think it is necessary. He is willing to work with me to develop a technique to accomplish this. Trouble is he wants me to use fiber medicine like Citrucel. I had used that years ago without success, but tried it out. It burns going down, not good. Is full of sugar and flavorings which I have avoided like the plague for 3 years. I guess I am not convinced either way about the surgery. I know I have to get back on a better track somehow. Ruth -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Hi, Sasha, I do see a nutrition oriented chiropractor every other week. The other practioners are usually too costly for me. I am retired. Have an adequate income for ordinary expenses, but nothing fancy. I thought long and hard about trying internet at home. Otherwise I used the library. Still go up there sometimes and do my e-mail to save on electricity at home and use their arconditioning in the heat of the day. But can onlyuse a computer there for 1 hour. I am saving much pertinent information either by printing or by putting in folders on my computer for future reference. I have mentioned before maybe in response to someone else's message, that I have to pick and choose which inteventions to try out. I simply cannot invest in many alternative health supplements, too often they don't work and I end up with a bathroom cupboard full of bottles. I borrow many books from my chiropractor about healthy diet and diet for specific problems, etc. He also has DVD's. He carries a few things like Bentonite Clay and Psyllium which I took for about 4 months. The psyllium came in two kinds, one with a soy additive and one with a whey additive. Both of these reacted against the burning pain under my right ribcage. I am becoming more and more convinced that this pain is caused by too much pushing to pass stool and collections of gas in my large intestine that gets caught in the nooks and crannies of my colon On a day when I have expelled alot of gas, I seem to have some relief at least for awhile. I do use an antigas medication. I am considering some of the exercise ideas and other things that involve little expense. The chiropractor is inclined to work mainly with nutrition. Does also carry a probiotic which I have used, but without success so far. So I am trying to fight this within my means. I am not sure if you have come across any of the accounts I have posted concerning the condition of my colon that has led the Drs. to recommend surgery. It is very much longer than those of most people. It is also floppy and tends to clamp up. Transit time mouth to rectum is 7-8 days. 10 years ago was 5 days by x-ray. It is coming up supper time, better quit. I'm sorry if I have repeated stuff I already told you or you read in another post. Thanks, Ruth I need all the encouragement I can get at this time and I am very grateful for all the ideas I have received. From Ruth Strackbein From: "sms" Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: Subject: RE: CS>The Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 14:49:08 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Hi Ruth, I can empathize with what you are going through Ruth. It must be horrible and this colon problem must be wreaking havoc in your life. Look at it this way, surgery is always an option for you if that is what you ultimately decide. But, also think about it this way. There is a reason you are on this list and seeking advice. That is a wise thing to do. There is a wealth of knowledge and probably hundreds of years of combined personal and professional experience that you are receiving from our family of list members. Why not try some of the wonderful and excellent advice everyone is sharing? Trust that your body awareness knows what is right for you. You have got nothing to lose by doing that. Personally, I agree with everyone and would only do the surgery if it were a matter of life and death - but, for no other reason other than that. They have two ways of dealing with illness - drugs or surgery. That is what they have been trained to do. But there is a world of difference when you go to the alternative side of medicine and health practices. They look for everything natural to heal you May I ask - have you seen any doctors or practitioners outside of the allopathic medical field such as alternative/holistic, energy medicine, or ayurvedic master practitioners? This might be a good balance and then with professional assistance they can help you choose what is right for you. If you let us know where you reside, then we can avail you of those alternative practitioners in your area that might be able to help you. Let's try Ruth. So where are you? Hugs, Sasha From: ruth strackbein Hi , Sasha, I have used probiotics in the recent past. Lately have been involved with this routine the surgeon gave me to see if we can get my bowel to work properly without the surgery. I have very little confidence in his scheme, but if surgery becomes necessary he will probably be the one to do it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently
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Hi Ruth, I can empathize with what you are going through Ruth. It must be horrible and this colon problem must be wreaking havoc in your life. Look at it this way, surgery is always an option for you if that is what you ultimately decide. But, also think about it this way. There is a reason you are on this list and seeking advice. That is a wise thing to do. There is a wealth of knowledge and probably hundreds of years of combined personal and professional experience that you are receiving from our family of list members. Why not try some of the wonderful and excellent advice everyone is sharing? Trust that your body awareness knows what is right for you. You have got nothing to lose by doing that. Personally, I agree with everyone and would only do the surgery if it were a matter of life and death - but, for no other reason other than that. They have two ways of dealing with illness - drugs or surgery. That is what they have been trained to do. But there is a world of difference when you go to the alternative side of medicine and health practices. They look for everything natural to heal you May I ask - have you seen any doctors or practitioners outside of the allopathic medical field such as alternative/holistic, energy medicine, or ayurvedic master practitioners? This might be a good balance and then with professional assistance they can help you choose what is right for you. If you let us know where you reside, then we can avail you of those alternative practitioners in your area that might be able to help you. Let's try Ruth. So where are you? Hugs, Sasha From: ruth strackbein Hi , Sasha, I have used probiotics in the recent past. Lately have been involved with this routine the surgeon gave me to see if we can get my bowel to work properly without the surgery. I have very little confidence in his scheme, but if surgery becomes necessary he will probably be the one to do it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Hi , Sasha, I have used probiotics in the recent past. Lately have been involved with this routine the surgeon gave me to see if we can get my bowel to work properly without the surgery. I have very little confidence in his scheme, but if surgery becomes necessary he will probably be the one to do it. Have gone to a clinic that deals only with gastroenterology. Saw a gastroenterologist there, After examining all my volume of records, he said emphatically that surgery is necessary. He referred me to this surgeon who does not think it is necessary. He is willing to work with me to develop a technique to accomplish this. Trouble is he wants me to use fiber medicine like Citrucel. I had used that years ago without success, but tried it out. It burns going down, not good. Is full of sugar and flavorings which I have avoided like the plague for 3 years. I guess I am not convinced either way about the surgery. I know I have to get back on a better track somehow. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: "sms" Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: Subject: CS>The Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 09:55:56 -0700 (Pacific Standard Time) Ruth, I can't remember if anyone suggested regular use of Pro-Biotics. If you would like to know how to make your own kefir using kefir grains and organic whole milk, let me know. Sasha From: ruth strackbein Hi, Charles, The burning pain that is very much stronger recently in the ileo area and the upper ribcage right center area, the kinks in my bowel that show up in the recent X-rays, and past experiences with my digestive track contribute to my fear. I -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour _ PC Magazines 2007 editors choice for best Web mailaward-winning Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507
CS>The Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics
Ruth, I can't remember if anyone suggested regular use of Pro-Biotics. If you would like to know how to make your own kefir using kefir grains and organic whole milk, let me know. Sasha From: ruth strackbein Hi, Charles, The burning pain that is very much stronger recently in the ileo area and the upper ribcage right center area, the kinks in my bowel that show up in the recent X-rays, and past experiences with my digestive track contribute to my fear. I -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>The Poor Colon
Ruth, I forgot to add one thing. Triphala is an anti-oxidant. So, if you should decide to try Triphala, do not take it with oxidants; i.e., homozon, ozonated water, etc. Oxidants and anti-oxidants should be taken separate from one another. Sasha - Ruth, Another EXCELLENT herbal remedy is one called Triphala Internal Cleanser. It is an Ayurvedic Compound (1000 MG). I learned about Triphala from a very knowledgeable woman in my Lyme Group, and ever since I started taking it, miracles began to happen in my intestines. Now I wouldn't be without it, because it truly is one of those herbs that works wonders. By the way, Michael Tierra is highly regarded in the healing community. Sasha http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>The Poor Colon
Ruth, Another EXCELLENT herbal remedy is one called Triphala Internal Cleanser. It is an Ayurvedic Compound (1000 MG). I learned about Triphala from a very knowledgeable woman in my Lyme Group, and ever since I started taking it, miracles began to happen in my intestines. Now I wouldn't be without it, because it truly is one of those herbs that works wonders. By the way, Michael Tierra is highly regarded in the healing community. Sasha "Triphala provided protection gainst both gastrointestinal and hemopoetic death" Triphala, according to Dr Michael Tierra, a practicing herbalist and author of The Wonders of Triphala: Ayurvedic Formula for Internal Purification, is "one of the safest and most strengthening of the cleansing herb formulas; it gently promotes internal detoxification of all conditions of stagnation and excess while improving digestion and assimilation." He adds: "It has been shown to be an effective blood purifier that stimulates bile secretion as it detoxifies the liver. Triphala benefits circulation, improves digestion and regulates elimination without causing any laxative dependency. Triphala is also taken for all eye disorders including the treatment of conjunctivitis, progressive myopia, early stages of glaucoma and cataracts. Triphala can be highly effective in removing stagnation of both the liver and intestines and is one of the greatest and most popular rejuvenators in ayurvedic medicine; it helps to aid the body's natural detoxification and elimination processes without weakening systems or becoming habit forming." No wonder, observes Dr. Tierra, in India there is a saying comparing the importance of triphala to that of a mother. In `A Botanical Approach to the Treatment of Cancer' Tierra claims that Triphala is a herbal formula to maintain balanced elimination and detoxification. He notes that Triphala "is widely regarded as a purgative and laxative but in fact it is considered a rasayana and rejuvenator. Its special value, therefore, is both as a regulator of elimination as well as rejuvenator of the whole body." What is Triphala Triphala is a combination of the dried fruits of Terminalia chebula, Terminalia belerica, and Emblica officinalis in equal proportions. These are popularly known in India as harad, behada and amla. Harada and behada have a warm energy, while amla is cool. Triphala, being a combination of all three, is therefore balanced, making it useful as an internal cleansing, detoxifying formula for everyone including more sensitive type individuals and vegetarians. This formula and its individual ingredients are highly valued in Ayurveda, being compared to a "good manager of the house," aiding digestion, nutrient absorption and body metabolism. According to Ayurvedic practitioners, daily use of triphala promotes normal appetite, good digestion, the increase of red blood cells and hemoglobin, and removal of undesirable fat. Triphala is very beneficial for creating a favorable chemical environment for the proliferation of beneficial intestinal bacteria and an unfavorable environment for non-beneficial intestinal bacteria. Of primary importance is the use of triphala as a bowel regulator. It is considered as safe as food and is not habit forming, even when taken on a daily basis. Since triphala is a tonic, cleanser and blood purifier, there is still one other important use for it and that is as a strengthener of the eyes, useful for cataracts, conjunctivitis and glaucoma. Triphala can be used as daily eyewash to strengthen vision, counteract many eye defects and eliminate redness and soreness. Practitioners of Traditional Chinese Medicine claim that Triphala will also eliminate what is called deficient heat in Chinese medicine. This is a feeling of heat and burning on the chest, legs, palms and/or soles of the feet, all representing a B-vitamin deficiency in Western medicine. Triphala taken regularly will promote absorption and utilization of the B vitamins and will completely relieve the symptoms of deficient heat. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>The Poor Colon, Dogs, Dog Herb
Morning Dennis, >> At 12:14 AM 6/26/2007, you wrote: That plant looks so familiar - I looked through my audubon feild guides but can't find what it is. Does the plant flower? They grow every where. Very common I think. Never seen a flower even when they get 8 feet tall. The ones the dog eats are usually 1.5 to 2.5 feet tall. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>The Poor Colon, Dogs, Dog Herb
Wayne, That plant looks so familiar - I looked through my audubon feild guides but can't find what it is. Does the plant flower? Dennis CWFugitt wrote: Morning Dee, >> At 05:34 AM 6/25/2007, you wrote: What is HCL please? Hydrochloric Acid. I should have spelled it out at least once. I understand dogs make it 6 times as strong as humans. I have seen my dog lay around chewing on a dead rat that smelled very bad, while the bowl was full of dog food. That must be telling us a lot. We can learn a lot from dogs. My dog eats one kind of weed leaves. She will strip the plant of leaves, and has selected this same weed year after year. I have a picture of the weed on my website. Sent the picture to Texas A and M and they could not identify it. http://www.fugitt.com/files/dog_herb.JPG These will grow 8 to 10 feet tall. This one got under one of my drip lines. Maybe someone will recognize it. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>The Poor Colon --What is HCL?? ( hydrochloric acid)
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Re: CS>The Poor Colon --What is HCL?? ( hydrochloric acid)
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Hi, Wayne, If you do decide to call, on Monday and Friday evenings call after 8 or 9 p.m This Dr. I have phone consultations with sometimes calls me back at very odd hours, depending on his surgical schedule. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: "Leslie" Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: Subject: Re: CS>The Poor Colon Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 11:58:55 -0500 OK, gotcha. How do you get plenty of HCL and enzymes naturally? Leslie - Original Message - From: "CWFugitt" To: Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 4:18 AM Subject: CS>The Poor Colon Morning Ruth and the list, I have read virtually all the messages on the digestion system, primarily the colon. Here are some of my far out and radical ideas. Some may sound cruel, but this is the way I see it. The poor colon catches everything one throws at it over all the years. In addition, it suffers from all the mistakes and short comings of the upper digestion system and the owner. This includes much bogus food, improper food combining, worthless foods, low fiber foods, glue based food, breads that should not be fed to a dog, maybe not even to a pig. It virtually never gets enough fiber based on the amount stated that we need everyday. Average fiber intake is about 1/3 the amount needed. Often it is listed as 20 to 40 grams. Of course this would be about two pounds or some fiber foods. Maybe even 2.5 pounds. Shortcomings made in the mouth and digestion problems in the stomach are all sent to the poor colon, which must suffer the consequences. In older people, most have had an HCL deficiency for many years. These same people have had virtually every kind of digestion problem known to man. The colon catches hell. Then we wonder why it gets many problems. The cause is virtually "Handwriting on the wall" and etched in stone. Anyone that thinks any of these single treatments will solve the problems of years of abuse must go back to the drawing board. It is not going to happen. In my field, we have a term, "Beyond Economical Repair". I think the medical field needs the same term, or one more descriptive. One short real life story, ... I had an aunt that lived to near 90 years. She had the worse diet in the world. Poor food, drank cokes all the time, and knew nothing about nutrition. One thing. she took her HCL religiously. It was prescribed in the 40's and 50's. Of course I was only a teenager but my memory has been good over the years. Knowing the few facts, and limited knowledge, I can only deduct that the HCL helped her overcome and live to an old age. Most people over 40 fail to make enough HCL. In the group that are sick enough to go to a doctor for any reason, 90 % of these fail to make enough HCL. Blame the medical profession where they disserve it. As I read all the different ailments and treatment for the digestion system, I come to only one conclusion. The medical profession is a huge fraud and a bunch of thieves. Many of my friends over 50 have these stupid colon scopes done regularly. They don't know how to spell digestion system and I don't think their doctors do either. So, everyone needs to get back to the basics, and not 3, 5, or 25 years after a problem shows up. Recently, I had an audiologist charge my insurance $ 775.00 of failed work. He tried to program my speech processor 3 times and all were a total failure. I will call them and try to get the charge cancelled. Maybe I can, or maybe not. There are 1000 more fine points and facts, but I think most of you know them. Again, the poor colon does not have a chance to function right. The complete digestion system is designed to function 24 hours per day. It should always have food high in fiber to work with. Plenty of HCL and enzymes are required for the upper system to do the job before the food gets to the colon. Heck, recently I ate some raw fern leaves. I was amazed how good they tasted. I would have eaten more but they my contain chemical that are not needed. I eat raw okra, raw field peas, peppers and squash, and of course tomatoes. I also eat wild huckleberries, wild cherries, and wild blackberries. The blueberries are not so wild. Soon, many cantaloupes and watermelons. The colon can stand this kind of work. That is what it was designed to do. I welcome any comments. If you think I am crazy, tell me so. Wayne === -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour _ Need a break? Find your escape route with L
RE: CS>The Poor Colon, Dogs, Dog Herb
Wayne, It kind of looks like Echinacea; some type of Coneflower. Dan -Original Message- From: CWFugitt [mailto:c_wa...@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 11:06 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>The Poor Colon, Dogs, Dog Herb My dog eats one kind of weed leaves. She will strip the plant of leaves, and has selected this same weed year after year. I have a picture of the weed on my website. Sent the picture to Texas A and M and they could not identify it. http://www.fugitt.com/files/dog_herb.JPG These will grow 8 to 10 feet tall. This one got under one of my drip lines. Maybe someone will recognize it. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>The Poor Colon, Dogs, Dog Herb
Thanks Wayne. One of my dogs used to always eat the new aubretia plants every spring, and she was the longest lived of my dogs even though the rest of her food was junk. Dee -- -- (Terry Pratchett, Wyrd Sisters) ---Original Message--- From: CWFugitt Date: 25/06/2007 17:40:28 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>The Poor Colon, Dogs, Dog Herb Morning Dee, >> At 05:34 AM 6/25/2007, you wrote: >What is HCL please? Hydrochloric Acid. I should have spelled it out at least once. I understand dogs make it 6 times as strong as humans. I have seen my dog Lay around chewing on a dead rat that smelled very bad, While the Bowl was full of dog food. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>The Poor Colon
Evening Leslie, At 11:58 AM 6/25/2007, you wrote: OK, gotcha. How do you get plenty of HCL and enzymes naturally? You ask a loaded question. You don't get HCL, unless you take a supplement. You are supposed to make it as needed. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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OK, gotcha. How do you get plenty of HCL and enzymes naturally? Leslie - Original Message - From: "CWFugitt" To: Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 4:18 AM Subject: CS>The Poor Colon Morning Ruth and the list, I have read virtually all the messages on the digestion system, primarily the colon. Here are some of my far out and radical ideas. Some may sound cruel, but this is the way I see it. The poor colon catches everything one throws at it over all the years. In addition, it suffers from all the mistakes and short comings of the upper digestion system and the owner. This includes much bogus food, improper food combining, worthless foods, low fiber foods, glue based food, breads that should not be fed to a dog, maybe not even to a pig. It virtually never gets enough fiber based on the amount stated that we need everyday. Average fiber intake is about 1/3 the amount needed. Often it is listed as 20 to 40 grams. Of course this would be about two pounds or some fiber foods. Maybe even 2.5 pounds. Shortcomings made in the mouth and digestion problems in the stomach are all sent to the poor colon, which must suffer the consequences. In older people, most have had an HCL deficiency for many years. These same people have had virtually every kind of digestion problem known to man. The colon catches hell. Then we wonder why it gets many problems. The cause is virtually "Handwriting on the wall" and etched in stone. Anyone that thinks any of these single treatments will solve the problems of years of abuse must go back to the drawing board. It is not going to happen. In my field, we have a term, "Beyond Economical Repair". I think the medical field needs the same term, or one more descriptive. One short real life story, ... I had an aunt that lived to near 90 years. She had the worse diet in the world. Poor food, drank cokes all the time, and knew nothing about nutrition. One thing. she took her HCL religiously. It was prescribed in the 40's and 50's. Of course I was only a teenager but my memory has been good over the years. Knowing the few facts, and limited knowledge, I can only deduct that the HCL helped her overcome and live to an old age. Most people over 40 fail to make enough HCL. In the group that are sick enough to go to a doctor for any reason, 90 % of these fail to make enough HCL. Blame the medical profession where they disserve it. As I read all the different ailments and treatment for the digestion system, I come to only one conclusion. The medical profession is a huge fraud and a bunch of thieves. Many of my friends over 50 have these stupid colon scopes done regularly. They don't know how to spell digestion system and I don't think their doctors do either. So, everyone needs to get back to the basics, and not 3, 5, or 25 years after a problem shows up. Recently, I had an audiologist charge my insurance $ 775.00 of failed work. He tried to program my speech processor 3 times and all were a total failure. I will call them and try to get the charge cancelled. Maybe I can, or maybe not. There are 1000 more fine points and facts, but I think most of you know them. Again, the poor colon does not have a chance to function right. The complete digestion system is designed to function 24 hours per day. It should always have food high in fiber to work with. Plenty of HCL and enzymes are required for the upper system to do the job before the food gets to the colon. Heck, recently I ate some raw fern leaves. I was amazed how good they tasted. I would have eaten more but they my contain chemical that are not needed. I eat raw okra, raw field peas, peppers and squash, and of course tomatoes. I also eat wild huckleberries, wild cherries, and wild blackberries. The blueberries are not so wild. Soon, many cantaloupes and watermelons. The colon can stand this kind of work. That is what it was designed to do. I welcome any comments. If you think I am crazy, tell me so. Wayne === -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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I thank you for this information MARY -- Original message -- From: CWFugitt > > > Morning Ruth and the list, > > I have read virtually all the messages on the digestion system, > primarily the colon. > > Here are some of my far out and radical ideas. Some may sound cruel, but > this is the way I see it. > > The poor colon catches everything one throws at it over all the years. > In addition, it suffers from all the mistakes and short comings of the > upper digestion system and the owner. > > This includes much bogus food, improper food combining, > worthless foods, low fiber foods, glue based food, breads that should not > be fed to a dog, maybe not even to a pig. > > It virtually never gets enough fiber based on the amount stated that we > need everyday. Average fiber intake is about 1/3 the amount needed. Often > it is listed as 20 to 40 grams. Of course this would be about two pounds or > some fiber foods. Maybe even 2.5 pounds. > > Shortcomings made in the mouth and digestion problems in the stomach are > all sent to the poor colon, which must suffer the consequences. > > In older people, most have had an HCL deficiency for many years. > These same people have had virtually every kind of digestion problem known > to man. > > The colon catches hell. Then we wonder why it gets many problems. > > The cause is virtually "Handwriting on the wall" and etched in stone. > Anyone that thinks any of these single treatments will solve the problems > of years of abuse must go back to the drawing board. > > It is not going to happen. > > In my field, we have a term, "Beyond Economical Repair". > I think the medical field needs the same term, or one more descriptive. > > One short real life story, ... I had an aunt that lived to near 90 > years. She had the worse diet in the world. Poor food, drank cokes all the > time, and knew nothing about nutrition. > > One thing. she took her HCL religiously. It was prescribed in the > 40's and 50's. Of course I was only a teenager but my memory has been good > over the years. Knowing the few facts, and limited knowledge, I can only > deduct that the HCL helped her overcome and live to an old age. > > Most people over 40 fail to make enough HCL. In the group that are sick > enough to go to a doctor for any reason, 90 % of these fail to make enough > HCL. > > Blame the medical profession where they disserve it. > > As I read all the different ailments and treatment for the digestion > system, I come to only one conclusion. > > The medical profession is a huge fraud and a bunch of thieves. > Many of my friends over 50 have these stupid colon scopes done > regularly. They don't know how to spell digestion system and I don't think > their doctors do either. > > So, everyone needs to get back to the basics, and not 3, 5, or 25 years > after a problem shows up. > > Recently, I had an audiologist charge my insurance $ 775.00 of failed > work. He tried to program my speech processor 3 times and all were a total > failure. I will call them and try to get the charge cancelled. Maybe I > can, or maybe not. > > There are 1000 more fine points and facts, but I think most of you know them. > > Again, the poor colon does not have a chance to function right. > The complete digestion system is designed to function 24 hours per day. It > should always have food high in fiber to work with. > Plenty of HCL and enzymes are required for the upper system to do the job > before the food gets to the colon. > > Heck, recently I ate some raw fern leaves. I was amazed how good they > tasted. I would have eaten more but they my contain chemical that are not > needed. I eat raw okra, raw field peas, peppers and squash, and of course > tomatoes. I also eat wild huckleberries, wild cherries, and wild > blackberries. The blueberries are not so wild. > > Soon, many cantaloupes and watermelons. The colon can stand this kind of > work. That is what it was designed to do. > > I welcome any comments. If you think I am crazy, tell me so. > > Wayne > > === > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>The Poor Colon
I go to your website when I want something interesting that sounds right and works. It's not us that're crazy . . . . . R I welcome any comments. If you think I am crazy, tell me so. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>The Poor Colon
Wayne, I know a lot of people who are converting to a raw diet and are also eating wild foods like the fern, etc. They eat a lot of nuts to keep weight on and do weights to maintain muscle mass. They claim to have increased energy and health. Do you also eat animal protein? Thanks, Jess -Original Message- From: CWFugitt [mailto:c_wa...@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 4:18 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>The Poor Colon Morning Ruth and the list, I have read virtually all the messages on the digestion system, primarily the colon. Here are some of my far out and radical ideas. Some may sound cruel, but this is the way I see it. The poor colon catches everything one throws at it over all the years. In addition, it suffers from all the mistakes and short comings of the upper digestion system and the owner. This includes much bogus food, improper food combining, worthless foods, low fiber foods, glue based food, breads that should not be fed to a dog, maybe not even to a pig. It virtually never gets enough fiber based on the amount stated that we need everyday. Average fiber intake is about 1/3 the amount needed. Often it is listed as 20 to 40 grams. Of course this would be about two pounds or some fiber foods. Maybe even 2.5 pounds. Shortcomings made in the mouth and digestion problems in the stomach are all sent to the poor colon, which must suffer the consequences. In older people, most have had an HCL deficiency for many years. These same people have had virtually every kind of digestion problem known to man. The colon catches hell. Then we wonder why it gets many problems. The cause is virtually "Handwriting on the wall" and etched in stone. Anyone that thinks any of these single treatments will solve the problems of years of abuse must go back to the drawing board. It is not going to happen. In my field, we have a term, "Beyond Economical Repair". I think the medical field needs the same term, or one more descriptive. One short real life story, ... I had an aunt that lived to near 90 years. She had the worse diet in the world. Poor food, drank cokes all the time, and knew nothing about nutrition. One thing. she took her HCL religiously. It was prescribed in the 40's and 50's. Of course I was only a teenager but my memory has been good over the years. Knowing the few facts, and limited knowledge, I can only deduct that the HCL helped her overcome and live to an old age. Most people over 40 fail to make enough HCL. In the group that are sick enough to go to a doctor for any reason, 90 % of these fail to make enough HCL. Blame the medical profession where they disserve it. As I read all the different ailments and treatment for the digestion system, I come to only one conclusion. The medical profession is a huge fraud and a bunch of thieves. Many of my friends over 50 have these stupid colon scopes done regularly. They don't know how to spell digestion system and I don't think their doctors do either. So, everyone needs to get back to the basics, and not 3, 5, or 25 years after a problem shows up. Recently, I had an audiologist charge my insurance $ 775.00 of failed work. He tried to program my speech processor 3 times and all were a total failure. I will call them and try to get the charge cancelled. Maybe I can, or maybe not. There are 1000 more fine points and facts, but I think most of you know them. Again, the poor colon does not have a chance to function right. The complete digestion system is designed to function 24 hours per day. It should always have food high in fiber to work with. Plenty of HCL and enzymes are required for the upper system to do the job before the food gets to the colon. Heck, recently I ate some raw fern leaves. I was amazed how good they tasted. I would have eaten more but they my contain chemical that are not needed. I eat raw okra, raw field peas, peppers and squash, and of course tomatoes. I also eat wild huckleberries, wild cherries, and wild blackberries. The blueberries are not so wild. Soon, many cantaloupes and watermelons. The colon can stand this kind of work. That is what it was designed to do. I welcome any comments. If you think I am crazy, tell me so. Wayne === -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>The Poor Colon
Hi, Wayne, Am glad you have read all the messages, including my too numerous ones. Should have combined them all and addressed to All. About fiber: I am scared to try all raw foods . Romaine lettuce once or twice a day is the only vegetable I eat raw. Do eat bananas and cantalope. I know bananas are supposed to be constipating, but most fruits seem to burn in my upper right ribcage trouble spot, and I need to gain weight. Eliminating bananas would take out an important source of calories, not to mention fiber. I doubt if they are high fiber, but they do have some. Otherwise , I eat only veggies, lightly cooked in the double boiler to avoid bringing them to a boil. This is for veggies already cooked but need to be heated. (maybe not!) . As you already know, Wayne the kinds of veggies I eat is rather limited. Right now I am passing quite a few stools a day. I really think some of these are part of the same stool, but just break off too soon. There is no urge, just a feeling of something being there. The Hydrochloric Acid thing is certainly interesting. Will have to try the test suggested by someone else. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: CWFugitt Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>The Poor Colon Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 04:18:04 -0500 Morning Ruth and the list, I have read virtually all the messages on the digestion system, primarily the colon. Here are some of my far out and radical ideas. Some may sound cruel, but this is the way I see it. The poor colon catches everything one throws at it over all the years. In addition, it suffers from all the mistakes and short comings of the upper digestion system and the owner. This includes much bogus food, improper food combining, worthless foods, low fiber foods, glue based food, breads that should not be fed to a dog, maybe not even to a pig. It virtually never gets enough fiber based on the amount stated that we need everyday. Average fiber intake is about 1/3 the amount needed. Often it is listed as 20 to 40 grams. Of course this would be about two pounds or some fiber foods. Maybe even 2.5 pounds. Shortcomings made in the mouth and digestion problems in the stomach are all sent to the poor colon, which must suffer the consequences. In older people, most have had an HCL deficiency for many years. These same people have had virtually every kind of digestion problem known to man. The colon catches hell. Then we wonder why it gets many problems. The cause is virtually "Handwriting on the wall" and etched in stone. Anyone that thinks any of these single treatments will solve the problems of years of abuse must go back to the drawing board. It is not going to happen. In my field, we have a term, "Beyond Economical Repair". I think the medical field needs the same term, or one more descriptive. One short real life story, ... I had an aunt that lived to near 90 years. She had the worse diet in the world. Poor food, drank cokes all the time, and knew nothing about nutrition. One thing. she took her HCL religiously. It was prescribed in the 40's and 50's. Of course I was only a teenager but my memory has been good over the years. Knowing the few facts, and limited knowledge, I can only deduct that the HCL helped her overcome and live to an old age. Most people over 40 fail to make enough HCL. In the group that are sick enough to go to a doctor for any reason, 90 % of these fail to make enough HCL. Blame the medical profession where they disserve it. As I read all the different ailments and treatment for the digestion system, I come to only one conclusion. The medical profession is a huge fraud and a bunch of thieves. Many of my friends over 50 have these stupid colon scopes done regularly. They don't know how to spell digestion system and I don't think their doctors do either. So, everyone needs to get back to the basics, and not 3, 5, or 25 years after a problem shows up. Recently, I had an audiologist charge my insurance $ 775.00 of failed work. He tried to program my speech processor 3 times and all were a total failure. I will call them and try to get the charge cancelled. Maybe I can, or maybe not. There are 1000 more fine points and facts, but I think most of you know them. Again, the poor colon does not have a chance to function right. The complete digestion system is designed to function 24 hours per day. It should always have food high in fiber to work with. Plenty of HCL and enzymes are required for the upper system to do the job before the food gets to the colon. Heck, recently I ate some raw fern leaves. I was amazed how good they tasted. I would have eaten more but they my contain chemical that are not needed. I eat raw okra, raw field peas, peppers and squash, and of course tomatoes. I also eat wild huckleberries, wild cherries, and wild
CS>The Poor Colon, Dogs, Dog Herb
Morning Dee, >> At 05:34 AM 6/25/2007, you wrote: What is HCL please? Hydrochloric Acid. I should have spelled it out at least once. I understand dogs make it 6 times as strong as humans. I have seen my dog lay around chewing on a dead rat that smelled very bad, while the bowl was full of dog food. That must be telling us a lot. We can learn a lot from dogs. My dog eats one kind of weed leaves. She will strip the plant of leaves, and has selected this same weed year after year. I have a picture of the weed on my website. Sent the picture to Texas A and M and they could not identify it. http://www.fugitt.com/files/dog_herb.JPG These will grow 8 to 10 feet tall. This one got under one of my drip lines. Maybe someone will recognize it. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>The Poor Colon
Hi, All, Wouldn't this depend somewhat on the time of day you do the testing? And whether before a meal of after, etc.? Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: muk...@mail.bg Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>The Poor Colon Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 14:01:21 +0300 Hi Wayne, group, I second completely. This is also true for many other diseases. For many years we are trying to deteriorate our health. Then we want to recover by taking pills. BTW I read somewhere about an easy way to check whether we make enough HCL. Take 1/4 teaspoon of sodium bicarbonate dissolved in (half) a glass of water. If you start burping within 5 minutes you make some HCL, if not you don't. Wayne, will you please elaborate on your diet and what errors did you made trying raw vegetables. Simeon - SCENA - Åäèíñòâåíîòî ÁÅÇÏËÀÒÍÎ ñïèñàíèå çà ìîáèëíè êîìóíèêàöèè è òåõíîëîãèè. http://www.bgscena.com/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour _ Picture this share your photos and you could win big! http://www.GETREALPhotoContest.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us
CS>The Poor Colon
Hi Wayne, group, I second completely. This is also true for many other diseases. For many years we are trying to deteriorate our health. Then we want to recover by taking pills. BTW I read somewhere about an easy way to check whether we make enough HCL. Take 1/4 teaspoon of sodium bicarbonate dissolved in (half) a glass of water. If you start burping within 5 minutes you make some HCL, if not you don't. Wayne, will you please elaborate on your diet and what errors did you made trying raw vegetables. Simeon - SCENA - Единственото БЕЗПЛАТНО списание за мобилни комуникации и технологии. http://www.bgscena.com/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>The Poor Colon
What is HCL please? And I agree about the medical profession on the whole; a bit like vets too. Some of course, are just misguided. I see that in the UK they are now persuading people to have blood tests to see the cholesterol content. If this is above 5 they will then put them all on statins! Mass murder, in my opinion. Dee -- -- (Terry Pratchett, Wyrd Sisters) ---Original Message--- From: CWFugitt Date: 25/06/2007 10:20:26 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>The Poor Colon Morning Ruth and the list, Most people over 40 fail to make enough HCL. In the group that are sick Enough to go to a doctor for any reason, 90 % of these fail to make enough HCL. Blame the medical profession where they disserve it. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>The Poor Colon
Morning Ruth and the list, I have read virtually all the messages on the digestion system, primarily the colon. Here are some of my far out and radical ideas. Some may sound cruel, but this is the way I see it. The poor colon catches everything one throws at it over all the years. In addition, it suffers from all the mistakes and short comings of the upper digestion system and the owner. This includes much bogus food, improper food combining, worthless foods, low fiber foods, glue based food, breads that should not be fed to a dog, maybe not even to a pig. It virtually never gets enough fiber based on the amount stated that we need everyday. Average fiber intake is about 1/3 the amount needed. Often it is listed as 20 to 40 grams. Of course this would be about two pounds or some fiber foods. Maybe even 2.5 pounds. Shortcomings made in the mouth and digestion problems in the stomach are all sent to the poor colon, which must suffer the consequences. In older people, most have had an HCL deficiency for many years. These same people have had virtually every kind of digestion problem known to man. The colon catches hell. Then we wonder why it gets many problems. The cause is virtually "Handwriting on the wall" and etched in stone. Anyone that thinks any of these single treatments will solve the problems of years of abuse must go back to the drawing board. It is not going to happen. In my field, we have a term, "Beyond Economical Repair". I think the medical field needs the same term, or one more descriptive. One short real life story, ... I had an aunt that lived to near 90 years. She had the worse diet in the world. Poor food, drank cokes all the time, and knew nothing about nutrition. One thing. she took her HCL religiously. It was prescribed in the 40's and 50's. Of course I was only a teenager but my memory has been good over the years. Knowing the few facts, and limited knowledge, I can only deduct that the HCL helped her overcome and live to an old age. Most people over 40 fail to make enough HCL. In the group that are sick enough to go to a doctor for any reason, 90 % of these fail to make enough HCL. Blame the medical profession where they disserve it. As I read all the different ailments and treatment for the digestion system, I come to only one conclusion. The medical profession is a huge fraud and a bunch of thieves. Many of my friends over 50 have these stupid colon scopes done regularly. They don't know how to spell digestion system and I don't think their doctors do either. So, everyone needs to get back to the basics, and not 3, 5, or 25 years after a problem shows up. Recently, I had an audiologist charge my insurance $ 775.00 of failed work. He tried to program my speech processor 3 times and all were a total failure. I will call them and try to get the charge cancelled. Maybe I can, or maybe not. There are 1000 more fine points and facts, but I think most of you know them. Again, the poor colon does not have a chance to function right. The complete digestion system is designed to function 24 hours per day. It should always have food high in fiber to work with. Plenty of HCL and enzymes are required for the upper system to do the job before the food gets to the colon. Heck, recently I ate some raw fern leaves. I was amazed how good they tasted. I would have eaten more but they my contain chemical that are not needed. I eat raw okra, raw field peas, peppers and squash, and of course tomatoes. I also eat wild huckleberries, wild cherries, and wild blackberries. The blueberries are not so wild. Soon, many cantaloupes and watermelons. The colon can stand this kind of work. That is what it was designed to do. I welcome any comments. If you think I am crazy, tell me so. Wayne === -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour