CS>nasal Spray I use white PE plastic -- one can carry/ppcket when out shopping etc ....

[Douglas Haack]

 Sure, for sure!! I too ahve used nebulisers now for 15 plus years -- I have a 
report of mine in the archives with photos -- not as neat as the small Chinese 
models that we now have, I ahve purchased 4 of these small units
The nasal spray I use is white PE plastic and one can carry in the ppcket when 
out shopping etc 
be well, dh
In SILvation ...



On Tuesday, 23 March 2021, 12:58:39 pm AEDT, Neville Munn 
 wrote:  
 
 LOL...People don't need to purchase that whatever that is, all they have to do 
is get an Ultrasonic Nebuliser, problem fixed.  As you say, just fill up that 
medicine cup with neat home made EIS and snort it until it's empty, job done.  
Decide for yourself when/why and how often you use it.
N.
From: Douglas Haack 
Sent: Tuesday, 23 March 2021 12:44 PM
To: Silver-List 
Subject: CS>I do in my CS Nasal Sprayer -- go buy one, empty and fill with CS 
-- I did . Israel, New Zealand OK sale of Virus/Covid killing NASAL spray

I do with my CS Nasal Sprayer -- go buy one, empty and fill with CS -- I did 
. so fundamental



https://news.trust.org/item/20210322142323-9i5gq
  

Re: CS>nasal Spray I use white PE plastic -- one can carry/ppcket when out shopping etc ....

[Neville Munn]

I stuffed up there.  I meant to say 'yes', get a nasal sprayer and use your own 
home made EIS.  Anything which might be needed would be the nebuliser.

Sorry 'bout that.  I'll just put it down to 'elderly confusion' .

N.


From: Douglas Haack 
Sent: Tuesday, 23 March 2021 1:07 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: CS>nasal Spray I use white PE plastic -- one can carry/ppcket when out 
shopping etc 

Sure, for sure!! I too ahve used nebulisers now for 15 plus years -- I have a 
report of mine in the archives with photos -- not as neat as the small Chinese 
models that we now have, I ahve purchased 4 of these small units

The nasal spray I use is white PE plastic and one can carry in the ppcket when 
out shopping etc 

be well, dh

In SILvation ...



On Tuesday, 23 March 2021, 12:58:39 pm AEDT, Neville Munn 
 wrote:


LOL...People don't need to purchase that whatever that is, all they have to do 
is get an Ultrasonic Nebuliser, problem fixed.  As you say, just fill up that 
medicine cup with neat home made EIS and snort it until it's empty, job done.  
Decide for yourself when/why and how often you use it.

N.


From: Douglas Haack 
Sent: Tuesday, 23 March 2021 12:44 PM
To: Silver-List 
Subject: CS>I do in my CS Nasal Sprayer -- go buy one, empty and fill with CS 
-- I did .

Israel, New Zealand OK sale of Virus/Covid killing NASAL spray

I do with my CS Nasal Sprayer -- go buy one, empty and fill with CS -- I did 
. so fundamental



https://news.trust.org/item/20210322142323-9i5gq

RE: CS> Nasal spray,more info

[Lisa]

And as an FYI.I found a nasal sprayer bottle (two actually) from a Dollar
Store. Price was perfect, considering I also dumped the contents for the
sprayer pump itself.

 

Lisa

 

  _  

From: Harold MacDonald [mailto:har...@telus.net] 
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 10:30 PM
To: Silver list
Subject: CS> Nasal spray,more info

 

My apologies for not giving H2O2 info.For myself I put in 4 drops of 35%
food grade Hydrogen peroxide[this I get from a compounding pharmacy, without
stabilizers,etc.].For a child I would use a smaller amount as their nasal
passages will be more delicate, try 1 drop in the mix at first.

The sprayer was one from the Pharmacy with a nasal spray in it,which I
emptied out.The bottle was  2 ounces in size with a tapered spout pump.

Incidentally, this mix is also ideal for ear aches too.Same for children, a
smaller amount of H2O2 at first.

For a family I would use my original strength mix in a larger quantity and
if and when necessary,dilute with EIS for a small child.

Sometimes the regular MSM can be a bit harsh,so experiment with it too.

I now use pure Sulfur Crystals instead of MSM, which is a poor form of
Sulfur.Go to WWW.healthtalkhawaii.com for info re same.

I hope this is of some help.

 

Harold

CS> Nasal spray,more info

[Harold MacDonald]

My apologies for not giving H2O2 info.For myself I put in 4 drops of 35% food 
grade Hydrogen peroxide[this I get from a compounding pharmacy, without 
stabilizers,etc.].For a child I would use a smaller amount as their nasal 
passages will be more delicate, try 1 drop in the mix at first.
The sprayer was one from the Pharmacy with a nasal spray in it,which I emptied 
out.The bottle was  2 ounces in size with a tapered spout pump.
Incidentally, this mix is also ideal for ear aches too.Same for children, a 
smaller amount of H2O2 at first.
For a family I would use my original strength mix in a larger quantity and if 
and when necessary,dilute with EIS for a small child.
Sometimes the regular MSM can be a bit harsh,so experiment with it too.
I now use pure Sulfur Crystals instead of MSM, which is a poor form of 
Sulfur.Go to WWW.healthtalkhawaii.com for info re same.
I hope this is of some help.

Harold

Re: CS> Nasal spray formula // Child with breathing problems

[ZZekelink]

 
In a message dated 9/25/2010 12:01:02 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
har...@telus.net writes:


 In the past I posted my mix [2007/04/01] .  I use  approx.[amounts can 
vary,still effective] 2 oz of EIS, add 1 tspn MSM,1 tspn  Xylitol,1/4 tspn 
DMSO,4 drops of H2O2[hydrogen peroxide]. Shake well and use  a nasal sprayer 
 
Harold




I just got this from a friend---Would this work for a  child ??? or does 
anyone have any ideas...Thanks, Lois
Lois, Have you heard of any natural way to relieve  people 
(specifically my 4 year old daughter) of seasonal asthma / allergies? We  had 
her at 
Women & Children's a couple of weeks ago because we couldn't get  her breathing 
under control with her albuterol. She actually had to be  admitted and we 
stayed the night, HORRIBLE. We love Children's Hospital though.  Anyway, they 
want us to put her on an inhaler called Flovent, 2 puffs twice a  day, FOR 
A YEAR! I really HATE pumping these drugs into her little lungs  when it's 
only a seasonal problem 2-3 times a year! This was our 4th trip to  
Children's (over the last couple of years) because of her breathing, but  
usually 
they get it under control and send us home with a script for Prednisone.  
HELP! Any  ideas?
Laurie
=

Re: CS> Nasal spray formula

[needling around]

Thanks, Harold.  What percentage of the H2O2 do you use?
Also, would you define "nasal" sprayer?  Do you purchase a regular nasal spray 
and dump the contents or something else.  I have never see just the empty 
sprayer for sale.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: Harold MacDonald 
  To: Silver list 
  Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2010 12:00 AM
  Subject: CS> Nasal spray formula


 In the past I posted my mix [2007/04/01] .  I use approx.[amounts can 
vary,still effective] 2 oz of EIS, add 1 tspn MSM,1 tspn Xylitol,1/4 tspn 
DMSO,4 drops of H2O2[hydrogen peroxide]. Shake well and use a nasal sprayer 

Harold

CS> Nasal spray formula

[Harold MacDonald]

   In the past I posted my mix [2007/04/01] .  I use approx.[amounts can 
vary,still effective] 2 oz of EIS, add 1 tspn MSM,1 tspn Xylitol,1/4 tspn 
DMSO,4 drops of H2O2[hydrogen peroxide]. Shake well and use a nasal sprayer 

  Harold

Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Garrick]

Copper kills the bad stuff and stainless steel does not. Think of copper as
a less effective colloidal silver

g




On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 7:14 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

> What about stainless steel?  dee
>
> On 23 Apr 2010, at 03:48, bodhisattva wrote:
>
> > This is correct, and not unexpected.  All plumbing should be copper, all
> end fixtures brass when possible.  I have 2 sets of BRASS shower heads (no
> plastic, not even fittings), I switch them out, then soak the used one in CS
> for a few days, let it dry, then put it away until the next change out.
>  Seems to work pretty well.  The whole plastic shower head and PVC movement
> is pathetic, another idea gone bad.  I did this before the whole thing was
> made public, it just made sense to me.
> >
> > Don't forget hotel rooms, bring your own shower head, sounds strange but
> those places are disgusting cesspools of germs with 20 year old plastic
> shower heads. We don't have to be paranoid about it, but when you take a
> nice shower it would be nice to know you aren't vaporizing fungus and
> bacteria into your face. You can find the shower heads I use on Ebay or your
> local hardware (and the pressure from them ROCKS):  (pathogens aren't happy
> about brass either)
> >
>
>
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Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

What about stainless steel?  dee

On 23 Apr 2010, at 03:48, bodhisattva wrote:

> This is correct, and not unexpected.  All plumbing should be copper, all end 
> fixtures brass when possible.  I have 2 sets of BRASS shower heads (no 
> plastic, not even fittings), I switch them out, then soak the used one in CS 
> for a few days, let it dry, then put it away until the next change out.  
> Seems to work pretty well.  The whole plastic shower head and PVC movement is 
> pathetic, another idea gone bad.  I did this before the whole thing was made 
> public, it just made sense to me.
> 
> Don't forget hotel rooms, bring your own shower head, sounds strange but 
> those places are disgusting cesspools of germs with 20 year old plastic 
> shower heads. We don't have to be paranoid about it, but when you take a nice 
> shower it would be nice to know you aren't vaporizing fungus and bacteria 
> into your face. You can find the shower heads I use on Ebay or your local 
> hardware (and the pressure from them ROCKS):  (pathogens aren't happy about 
> brass either)
> 


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Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Garrick]

How about you delete them and I and others will read them. Put in a filter
and then you won't see him, problem solved.

Garrick  -- who needs a guide for the perplexed






On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Tony Moody  wrote:

> Hi Bodhi,
>
> What have you got to say about colloidal silver?
>
> It's just that I'm deleting all your posts. And there have been a big
> flurry of them
>
> Just wondering.
> Tony
>
> On 22 Apr 2010 at 10:01, bodhisattva wrote about :
> Subject : Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)
>
> > If D3 is made from Lanolin, that opens another can of worms. Lanolin
> > isn't all that great, or pure either.
> >
> > http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/ingredient/703386/LANOLIN/
> > Known human immune system toxicant
> > Classified as not expected to be potentially toxic or harmful
> > Environmental Canada Domestic Substance List
> >
>
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Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[bodhisattva]

This is correct, and not unexpected.  All plumbing should be copper, all 
end fixtures brass when possible.  I have 2 sets of BRASS shower heads 
(no plastic, not even fittings), I switch them out, then soak the used 
one in CS for a few days, let it dry, then put it away until the next 
change out.  Seems to work pretty well.  The whole plastic shower head 
and PVC movement is /pathetic, /another idea gone bad.  I did this 
before the whole thing was made public, it just made sense to me.


Don't forget hotel rooms, bring your own shower head, sounds strange but 
those places are disgusting cesspools of germs with 20 year old plastic 
shower heads. We don't have to be paranoid about it, but when you take a 
nice shower it would be nice to know you aren't vaporizing fungus and 
bacteria into your face. You can find the shower heads I use on Ebay or 
your local hardware (and the pressure from them ROCKS):  (pathogens 
aren't happy about brass either)


http://cgi.ebay.com/Solid-Brass-Extreme-High-Pressure-Chrome-Shower-Head-/160145661856?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25496cdfa0
I also have one of these: 
http://cgi.ebay.com/2-1-4-Antique-Copper-Adjustable-Shower-Head-Showerhead-/390175735963?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5ad849409b




http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/09/14/showerhead.bacteria/


 Study: Showerheads may deliver blast of bacteria



needling around wrote:
I recently listened to an NPR report on how there is a microbe that 
lives in plastic shower heads.  They recommended a brass shower head.  
I couldn't find one that didn't have plastic inserts where the water 
jets exit!

PT

- Original Message -
*From:* bodhisattva <mailto:bodhisat...@mutemail.com>
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:42 PM
*Subject:* Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

Usually before I recommend anything, or make any statements, I
exhaust all of the testing and trials I can do at an individual
level.  In terms of CS, I've used it for years as a cleaning
product, and funny enough, its EPA approved as such that.  It's
sprayed on the bars and holding ropes on Singapore Subways these
days.  I decided I would try ingesting it to see the results, and
haven't had anything negative come of consuming quite a lot to
"Try".  However, I suspect you should keep your flora in shape, so
I would accompany it with a good probiotic. Nothing bad to say
about CS thus far, frankly.  It seems like pretty amazing stuff,
you know? 


My wife works at a hospital, did you know they started coating
instruments and surfaces with nano-silver?  Very cool, and not
unexpected!  I've read extensive research on how fast various
metals kill various pathogens, it's enlightening.  Copper is
actually quite deadly to many pathogens, and this forms the basis
of having copper pipes in the home as opposed to PVC.  PVC can
breed pathogens, locally we recently had a building shut down not
far from here that had PVC pipes, some pathogens formed in the
pipes which wouldn't normally form in copper pipes, and made the
people in the building quite sick. I've experimented with Zinc
killing stuff as well, it's effective in my experience.

I brew my own CS now, and use it in my home-made products we use,
soaps, hand soaps, cleaning supplies, disinfectant sprays, etc. 
We buy as little as possible from the store these days.  I've

learned to make almost anything from scratch, it is fun and
interesting, my kids love watching how you make this or that, you
know? No wonder there is a good dis-info campaign against CS out
there.  All anyone ever hears about is the "Blue Man", never the 2
million people consuming CS without problem.  It's quite
ridiculous..  I found that prior to the Chemical Industry taking
over Medicine, Silver was approved for close to 200 conditions!

I have some of the best recipes ever, forged with a lot of trial
and error. You should see my baby wipes, they are so good, people
that see them always demand to know where I got them.  Of course
information is always free, and I share all recipes freely to
anyone that asks.  I'd be less than human if I didn't.

Good luck.

Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[poast]

Hello PT,

Mix up a glass of chlorine dioxide and dunk the shower head into it and hold it 
for 30 seconds.  No more bugs.

Tom

  - Original Message - 
  From: needling around 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 12:30 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)


  I recently listened to an NPR report on how there is a microbe that lives in 
plastic shower heads.  They recommended a brass shower head.  I couldn't find 
one that didn't have plastic inserts where the water jets exit!
  PT

Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[bodhisattva]

I wasn't a member of this list a few weeks ago.  Here is my solution, 
change it to suit yourself, I've found it effective!


You can use this stuff everywhere, even on your skin if you get some 
type of pathogen or infection, or exposure. The amounts listed are for 
an average empty spray bottle from Home Depot or something. I will 
explain the reasoning behind the ingredients below each one.. You can 
water it down more, or make it stronger depending on the conditions. 
Very weak it makes a nice "Spritz" to spray around your home. Very 
strong, it's great for spraying toilets, spray it, leave it on, and let 
it dry (5-10 min) and you are good to go. I don't recommend drinking it, 
even though it probably wouldn't hurt you at all. Pure 100% essential 
oils are very concentrated.


Ingredients are:
Colloidal Silver (home made)
Eucalyptus Oil (1 dropper)
Camphor Oil (1 dropper)
Grapefruit Seed Extract (1 dropper)
Holy Water (I'm spiritual, I use it everywhere)

I developed this solution to help someone I know with a GMO 
Super-Nematode type thing that they had going on, and it worked. 
(Superscabies)  A good video to see what kind of mess this can cause 
someones life is here:  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgvl0Nco6nc&feature=related


-Colloidal Silver is quite deadly to a lot of pathogens in my 
experience, and it makes sense to use this around the home. Studies 
support this.
-Eucalyptus kills mites/dust mites and some nematodes on contact. It's 
also anti-viral. Also very good at cutting grease and slime!
-Camphor is very antimicrobial, in fact cutting boards are made out of 
it for this reason. Anti-Bacterial to compliment Eucalyptus's antiviral 
properties.
-GSE - anti-microbial, and nematodal killing activity, good natural 
disinfectant.

-Holy Water? Hehe.. Strange, I know..  Leave this out if it suits you.



needling around wrote:
I asked a few weeks ago for homemade CS cleaning solutions but I 
didn't get any response.

PT

- Original Message -
*From:* bodhisattva <mailto:bodhisat...@mutemail.com>
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>
    *Sent:* Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:42 PM
*Subject:* Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

Usually before I recommend anything, or make any statements, I
exhaust all of the testing and trials I can do at an individual
level.  In terms of CS, I've used it for years as a cleaning
product, and funny enough, its EPA approved as such that.  It's
sprayed on the bars and holding ropes on Singapore Subways these
days.  I decided I would try ingesting it to see the results, and
haven't had anything negative come of consuming quite a lot to
"Try".  However, I suspect you should keep your flora in shape, so
I would accompany it with a good probiotic. Nothing bad to say
about CS thus far, frankly.  It seems like pretty amazing stuff,
you know? 


My wife works at a hospital, did you know they started coating
instruments and surfaces with nano-silver?  Very cool, and not
unexpected!  I've read extensive research on how fast various
metals kill various pathogens, it's enlightening.  Copper is
actually quite deadly to many pathogens, and this forms the basis
of having copper pipes in the home as opposed to PVC.  PVC can
breed pathogens, locally we recently had a building shut down not
far from here that had PVC pipes, some pathogens formed in the
pipes which wouldn't normally form in copper pipes, and made the
people in the building quite sick. I've experimented with Zinc
killing stuff as well, it's effective in my experience.

I brew my own CS now, and use it in my home-made products we use,
soaps, hand soaps, cleaning supplies, disinfectant sprays, etc. 
We buy as little as possible from the store these days.  I've

learned to make almost anything from scratch, it is fun and
interesting, my kids love watching how you make this or that, you
know? No wonder there is a good dis-info campaign against CS out
there.  All anyone ever hears about is the "Blue Man", never the 2
million people consuming CS without problem.  It's quite
ridiculous..  I found that prior to the Chemical Industry taking
over Medicine, Silver was approved for close to 200 conditions!

I have some of the best recipes ever, forged with a lot of trial
and error. You should see my baby wipes, they are so good, people
that see them always demand to know where I got them.  Of course
information is always free, and I share all recipes freely to
anyone that asks.  I'd be less than human if I didn't.

Good luck.

Tony Moody wrote:

Hi Bodhi,

What have you got to say about colloidal silver? 

It's just that I'm deleting all your posts. An

Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[needling around]

I recently listened to an NPR report on how there is a microbe that lives in 
plastic shower heads.  They recommended a brass shower head.  I couldn't find 
one that didn't have plastic inserts where the water jets exit!
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: bodhisattva 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:42 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)


  Usually before I recommend anything, or make any statements, I exhaust all of 
the testing and trials I can do at an individual level.  In terms of CS, I've 
used it for years as a cleaning product, and funny enough, its EPA approved as 
such that.  It's sprayed on the bars and holding ropes on Singapore Subways 
these days.  I decided I would try ingesting it to see the results, and haven't 
had anything negative come of consuming quite a lot to "Try".  However, I 
suspect you should keep your flora in shape, so I would accompany it with a 
good probiotic. Nothing bad to say about CS thus far, frankly.  It seems like 
pretty amazing stuff, you know?  

  My wife works at a hospital, did you know they started coating instruments 
and surfaces with nano-silver?  Very cool, and not unexpected!  I've read 
extensive research on how fast various metals kill various pathogens, it's 
enlightening.  Copper is actually quite deadly to many pathogens, and this 
forms the basis of having copper pipes in the home as opposed to PVC.  PVC can 
breed pathogens, locally we recently had a building shut down not far from here 
that had PVC pipes, some pathogens formed in the pipes which wouldn't normally 
form in copper pipes, and made the people in the building quite sick. I've 
experimented with Zinc killing stuff as well, it's effective in my experience.

  I brew my own CS now, and use it in my home-made products we use, soaps, hand 
soaps, cleaning supplies, disinfectant sprays, etc.  We buy as little as 
possible from the store these days.  I've learned to make almost anything from 
scratch, it is fun and interesting, my kids love watching how you make this or 
that, you know? No wonder there is a good dis-info campaign against CS out 
there.  All anyone ever hears about is the "Blue Man", never the 2 million 
people consuming CS without problem.  It's quite ridiculous..  I found that 
prior to the Chemical Industry taking over Medicine, Silver was approved for 
close to 200 conditions!

  I have some of the best recipes ever, forged with a lot of trial and error. 
You should see my baby wipes, they are so good, people that see them always 
demand to know where I got them.  Of course information is always free, and I 
share all recipes freely to anyone that asks.  I'd be less than human if I 
didn't.

  Good luck.

  Tony Moody wrote: 
Hi Bodhi,

What have you got to say about colloidal silver? 

It's just that I'm deleting all your posts. And there have been a big 
flurry of them 

Just wondering.
Tony

On 22 Apr 2010 at 10:01, bodhisattva wrote about :
Subject : Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

  If D3 is made from Lanolin, that opens another can of worms. Lanolin 
isn't all that great, or pure either.

http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/ingredient/703386/LANOLIN/
Known human immune system toxicant
Classified as not expected to be potentially toxic or harmful   
Environmental Canada Domestic Substance List

Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[needling around]

I asked a few weeks ago for homemade CS cleaning solutions but I didn't get any 
response.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: bodhisattva 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 3:42 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)


  Usually before I recommend anything, or make any statements, I exhaust all of 
the testing and trials I can do at an individual level.  In terms of CS, I've 
used it for years as a cleaning product, and funny enough, its EPA approved as 
such that.  It's sprayed on the bars and holding ropes on Singapore Subways 
these days.  I decided I would try ingesting it to see the results, and haven't 
had anything negative come of consuming quite a lot to "Try".  However, I 
suspect you should keep your flora in shape, so I would accompany it with a 
good probiotic. Nothing bad to say about CS thus far, frankly.  It seems like 
pretty amazing stuff, you know?  

  My wife works at a hospital, did you know they started coating instruments 
and surfaces with nano-silver?  Very cool, and not unexpected!  I've read 
extensive research on how fast various metals kill various pathogens, it's 
enlightening.  Copper is actually quite deadly to many pathogens, and this 
forms the basis of having copper pipes in the home as opposed to PVC.  PVC can 
breed pathogens, locally we recently had a building shut down not far from here 
that had PVC pipes, some pathogens formed in the pipes which wouldn't normally 
form in copper pipes, and made the people in the building quite sick. I've 
experimented with Zinc killing stuff as well, it's effective in my experience.

  I brew my own CS now, and use it in my home-made products we use, soaps, hand 
soaps, cleaning supplies, disinfectant sprays, etc.  We buy as little as 
possible from the store these days.  I've learned to make almost anything from 
scratch, it is fun and interesting, my kids love watching how you make this or 
that, you know? No wonder there is a good dis-info campaign against CS out 
there.  All anyone ever hears about is the "Blue Man", never the 2 million 
people consuming CS without problem.  It's quite ridiculous..  I found that 
prior to the Chemical Industry taking over Medicine, Silver was approved for 
close to 200 conditions!

  I have some of the best recipes ever, forged with a lot of trial and error. 
You should see my baby wipes, they are so good, people that see them always 
demand to know where I got them.  Of course information is always free, and I 
share all recipes freely to anyone that asks.  I'd be less than human if I 
didn't.

  Good luck.

  Tony Moody wrote: 
Hi Bodhi,

What have you got to say about colloidal silver? 

It's just that I'm deleting all your posts. And there have been a big 
flurry of them 

Just wondering.
Tony

On 22 Apr 2010 at 10:01, bodhisattva wrote about :
Subject : Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

  If D3 is made from Lanolin, that opens another can of worms. Lanolin 
isn't all that great, or pure either.

http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/ingredient/703386/LANOLIN/
Known human immune system toxicant
Classified as not expected to be potentially toxic or harmful   
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Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[bodhisattva]

Usually before I recommend anything, or make any statements, I exhaust 
all of the testing and trials I can do at an individual level.  In terms 
of CS, I've used it for years as a cleaning product, and funny enough, 
its EPA approved as such that.  It's sprayed on the bars and holding 
ropes on Singapore Subways these days.  I decided I would try ingesting 
it to see the results, and haven't had anything negative come of 
consuming quite a lot to "Try".  However, I suspect you should keep your 
flora in shape, so I would accompany it with a good probiotic. Nothing 
bad to say about CS thus far, frankly.  It seems like pretty amazing 
stuff, you know? 

My wife works at a hospital, did you know they started coating 
instruments and surfaces with nano-silver?  Very cool, and not 
unexpected!  I've read extensive research on how fast various metals 
kill various pathogens, it's enlightening.  Copper is actually quite 
deadly to many pathogens, and this forms the basis of having copper 
pipes in the home as opposed to PVC.  PVC can breed pathogens, locally 
we recently had a building shut down not far from here that had PVC 
pipes, some pathogens formed in the pipes which wouldn't normally form 
in copper pipes, and made the people in the building quite sick. I've 
experimented with Zinc killing stuff as well, it's effective in my 
experience.


I brew my own CS now, and use it in my home-made products we use, soaps, 
hand soaps, cleaning supplies, disinfectant sprays, etc.  We buy as 
little as possible from the store these days.  I've learned to make 
almost anything from scratch, it is fun and interesting, my kids love 
watching how you make this or that, you know? No wonder there is a good 
dis-info campaign against CS out there.  All anyone ever hears about is 
the "Blue Man", never the 2 million people consuming CS without 
problem.  It's quite ridiculous..  I found that prior to the Chemical 
Industry taking over Medicine, Silver was approved for close to 200 
conditions!


I have some of the best recipes ever, forged with a lot of trial and 
error. You should see my baby wipes, they are so good, people that see 
them always demand to know where I got them.  Of course information is 
always free, and I share all recipes freely to anyone that asks.  I'd be 
less than human if I didn't.


Good luck.

Tony Moody wrote:

Hi Bodhi,

What have you got to say about colloidal silver? 

It's just that I'm deleting all your posts. And there have been a big 
flurry of them 


Just wondering.
Tony

On 22 Apr 2010 at 10:01, bodhisattva wrote about :
Subject : Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

  
If D3 is made from Lanolin, that opens another can of worms. Lanolin 
isn't all that great, or pure either.


http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/ingredient/703386/LANOLIN/
Known human immune system toxicant
Classified as not expected to be potentially toxic or harmful 	
Environmental Canada Domestic Substance List

Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Tony Moody]

Hi Bodhi,

What have you got to say about colloidal silver? 

It's just that I'm deleting all your posts. And there have been a big 
flurry of them 

Just wondering.
Tony

On 22 Apr 2010 at 10:01, bodhisattva wrote about :
Subject : Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

> If D3 is made from Lanolin, that opens another can of worms. Lanolin 
> isn't all that great, or pure either.
> 
> http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/ingredient/703386/LANOLIN/
> Known human immune system toxicant
> Classified as not expected to be potentially toxic or harmful 
> Environmental Canada Domestic Substance List
> 


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Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[sol]

On 22 Apr 2010, at 17:57, Marshall Dudley wrote:

  

Interesting link on the subject: 
http://www.vrg.org/blog/2010/03/29/garden-of-life-vitamin-d3-derived-from-lanolin/


since GOL directly lied to me about content of one of their products 
years ago, i don't believe anything they say about anything.

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Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Interesting Marshall. dee

On 22 Apr 2010, at 17:57, Marshall Dudley wrote:

> Interesting link on the subject: 
> http://www.vrg.org/blog/2010/03/29/garden-of-life-vitamin-d3-derived-from-lanolin/
> 
> Marshall
> 
> bodhisattva wrote:


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Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Marshall Dudley]

Interesting link on the subject: 
http://www.vrg.org/blog/2010/03/29/garden-of-life-vitamin-d3-derived-from-lanolin/


Marshall

bodhisattva wrote:
If D3 is made from Lanolin, that opens another can of worms. Lanolin 
isn't all that great, or pure either.


http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/ingredient/703386/LANOLIN/
Known human immune system toxicant
Classified as not expected to be potentially toxic or harmful 	
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Bob Banever wrote:
If you expose your entire body to the full sun for a few hours you 
will produce about 14,000 IU's of D3 daily.  Taking less than half 
this amount in a supplement form (made from lanolin actually) isn't 
harmful.







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Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Bob Banever]

Dorothy,

 Try eating cooked organic foods best to eat clean wholesome foods 
with good nutritional value than processed or devitalized foods containing 
pesticides.


Bob
- Original Message - 
From: "Dorothy Fitzpatrick" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 8:48 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)


Oh well, that's me doomed for sure  raw natural food holds no delights 
for me I'm afraid, even if I could afford it--born food junkie that I am! 
dee


On 22 Apr 2010, at 14:54, bodhisattva wrote:



Finally, the point I am trying to make..  FOOD!  FOOD is your MEDICINE! 
Organic Food, Herbal teas, extracts, roots, plants, fruits, eggs, some 
fish, and a whole lot of natural spring water if you can find it.  Go pick 
some Dandelions and eat them, dandelions have more nutrients than a 
Banana, Apple and Carrot combined!  Don't spray them, eat them, they are 
gifts to your health. The much maligned "Big Pharma" everyone loves to 
hate, is the same one extracting nutrients from food, selling dead food to 
you, then selling you back the isolated compounds and making a ton of 
money off you.


In the USA there are only seven companies that manufacture refined vitamin 
components. The seven Companies Are:





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Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Oh well, that's me doomed for sure  raw natural food holds no delights 
for me I'm afraid, even if I could afford it--born food junkie that I am!  dee

On 22 Apr 2010, at 14:54, bodhisattva wrote:

> 
> Finally, the point I am trying to make..  FOOD!  FOOD is your MEDICINE!  
> Organic Food, Herbal teas, extracts, roots, plants, fruits, eggs, some fish, 
> and a whole lot of natural spring water if you can find it.  Go pick some 
> Dandelions and eat them, dandelions have more nutrients than a Banana, Apple 
> and Carrot combined!  Don't spray them, eat them, they are gifts to your 
> health. The much maligned "Big Pharma" everyone loves to hate, is the same 
> one extracting nutrients from food, selling dead food to you, then selling 
> you back the isolated compounds and making a ton of money off you.
> 
> In the USA there are only seven companies that manufacture refined vitamin 
> components. The seven Companies Are:
> 


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Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[bodhisattva]

If D3 is made from Lanolin, that opens another can of worms. Lanolin 
isn't all that great, or pure either.


http://www.cosmeticsdatabase.com/ingredient/703386/LANOLIN/
Known human immune system toxicant
Classified as not expected to be potentially toxic or harmful 	
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Bob Banever wrote:
If you expose your entire body to the full sun for a few hours you 
will produce about 14,000 IU's of D3 daily.  Taking less than half 
this amount in a supplement form (made from lanolin actually) isn't 
harmful.

Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[bodhisattva]

Let me be more blunt, it's not the supplements, it's the food.  Food is 
your medicine, not chemicals from big pharma.  The reason cows fed grain 
are so unhealthy, and require so many supplements and antibiotics, and 
other interventions is because their diet sucks. A cow that can graze on 
flowing grass, doesn't get sick much, doesn't require much if any 
supplements, and certainly has healthier byproducts.  You are no 
different in this respect, and it is a reality that people have trouble 
grasping.


It wasn't as big of a problem many years ago for many reasons. Our soils 
weren't strip farmed of nutrients, crop rotation was practiced, we 
didn't lace everything with chemicals (Look up the "Sulfur Issue" at 
farming websites to see how bad it is getting).  More stuff was raised 
closer to home, and more nutrient dense because much of it wasn't lost 
in transport. We didn't have products with pesticide enzymes engineered 
into them. Most people had a garden, so a good portion of the year they 
ate their own stuff, and canned for the winter.  It's really the whole 
system we have that's breaking down, and instead of addressing the core 
problem, we're trying to band aid it with science. We've reached point 
break, either we make the changes, or we become extinct.


Also there are nutrients from live, unprocessed foods science doesn't 
discuss. (Like the 5,000 enzymes in honey, of which they can only 
identify a few) This is one reason we're not getting the full picture, 
you can't break down life into a couple of components, that's ignorant 
reductionist thinking.  When you take a root grind it up, heat it, then 
analyze it you no longer have the same root, you missed some of its 
components. Similar to how a Mushroom exposed to sun isn't the same 
mushroom inside of a dark log.  Mushrooms chemically change once exposed 
to sunlight.  Look it up, this applies to a lot of other things, even 
non-fungal. This is just one small example of why we have gaping holes 
in our food science.


Finally, the point I am trying to make..  FOOD!  /*FOOD is your 
MEDICINE*/!  Organic Food, Herbal teas, extracts, roots, plants, fruits, 
eggs, some fish, and a whole lot of natural spring water if you can find 
it.  Go pick some Dandelions and eat them, dandelions have more 
nutrients than a Banana, Apple and Carrot combined!  Don't spray them, 
eat them, they are gifts to your health. The much maligned "Big Pharma" 
everyone loves to hate, is the same one extracting nutrients from food, 
selling dead food to you, then selling you back the isolated compounds 
and making a ton of money off you.


In the USA there are only seven companies that manufacture refined 
vitamin components. The seven Companies Are:


1.  Pfizer Chemicals Division.
2.  Fine Chemicals Division Henkel Corporation.
3.  Takeda USA Takeda Chemical Industries, LTD.
4.  Roche Chemical Division Hoffman LaRoche.
5.  Archer Daniels Midland Corporation.
6.  Chemicals Division BASF Wyandotte Corp.
7.  Eastman Chemical Company

100% of the vitamins made by these companies are synthetic or identical 
to synthetic. They are all made to an internationally accepted standard 
referred to as USP-grade (United States Pharmacopoeia) of FCC (Food 
Chemical Codex) vitamin material, in other words, free-form vitamin 
molecules without their natural food attachments.


Among these are vitamins derived from so-called natural sources, and 
even these are stripped of their natural protein bonds and other food 
attachments, including enzymes. They frequently contain detectable 
amounts of petroleum-based extraction solvents such as Hexane a 
component of gasoline. Almost all vitamins on the market today, whether 
labeled natural source or natural base, have been so processed as to 
leave them in a totally unnatural free form, not in the natural form in 
which nutrients are delivered in living food.


Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

And what if you live where there is very little sunlight - or you can't take 
it?  And sardines are now full of mercury so that is a no go for a start!  dee

On 21 Apr 2010, at 19:52, bodhisattva wrote:

  

Small quantities is the operative word, but science apparently will never 
understand natural law, and continues to break it with recklessness and bad 
results. I don't believe for a second the D the sun makes in our skin is the 
same as the synthetic hormone from Merck.

However, if you must take D, then do some research on what buffers the residual 
amounts in your body. Perhaps supplement D+K, so the rest is buffered off. Most 
people are told to avoid things with K in it (Grassfed Cows, and the 
meat/milk/butter from them, free range hen eggs, etc), and since K2 is probably 
vastly more important than D this isn't a good thing. If you drink a can of 
soda, take a tums along with it.  The calcium will bind and flush much of the 
excess Fluoride.  Same principle really. It'd probably say a 
D+K+Magnesium+Calcium combined supplement might be a bett

Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Ode Coyote]

  What you are mixing up is any trace of a common sense idea of proportion 
and application resulting in the presentation of a *CON*-text.


The MSDS for Dihydrogen Monoxide says it can cause the immediate cessation 
of Oxygen intake leading to the certain death of a skin bag full of it in 
mere moments.

 Bottoms up.

...look up the definitions of chronic and acute.

 Check out the MSDS for the Hydrochloric Acid you carry around in your 
stomach.
It'll burn your skin, but first, you have to swallow yourself and diving 
into your own stomach isn't acute idea either.


The MSDS is for bulk materials handling, not intelligent usage.  Forklift 
drivers vs pill takers.
Somebody has been out in the sun too long and chroniked out on D3 as per 
that last warning.


Ode

At 12:21 PM 4/21/2010 -0400, you wrote:
I'm not mixing up the D's, look at the MHDS yourself, it's for D3.  D3 is 
a STRONG acidic, oxidising agent. It's D3 that makes the most effective 
Rat Poison, along with ZyclonB and Fluoride of course.


http://ull.chemistry.uakron.edu/erd/Chemicals/8000/7235.html
Chronic ingestion may cause effects similar to those of acute ingestion. 
Ingestion May be fatal if swallowed. May cause irritation of the digestive 
tract. May cause kidney damage. May cause cardiac disturbances. Ingestion 
may lead to mental retardation.


Hazard class 6.1

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:


Yes but some articles have said more or less the same of colloidal 
silver.  Are you sure you are not mixing up your D's--because I believe 
D2 is harder to assimilate. dee


On 21 Apr 2010, at 02:52, bodhisattva wrote:





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodenticide
Remember, Fluoride, ZyclonB and VitaminD are potent rodent killers, and 
as a consequence, the first two were used to great effect to gas humans 
in mass quantities. Look at the other fun Rodenticides, and discover 
where those are added to the things in your life. Some contrail tests 
claim they always find a lot of barium, which of course is another rat 
poison.  Seems to be a trend these days, you know?


http://ull.chemistr y.uakron. edu/erd/Chemical 
s/8000/7235. html

VITAMIN D - EC Classvery toxic
RTECS class Reproductive Effector; Human Data
 Poison_Class2
Exposure effects









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Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Richard Goodwin]

Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDS) say that all the vitamins I just looked up 
are hazardous:  A, B, C, D, E.  I stopped there.  Aspirin too.  I expect that 
just about anything you can ingest is potentially hazardous according to MSDS.  
They didn't have much to say about coffee and tea.  And apparently water is 
fairly safe.

Not sure how excited to get about these MSDSs or MHDSs.

Dick





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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, April 21, 2010 2:40:04 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Nasal spray  (UNCLASSIFIED)

It's a Material Handling Data Sheet!  You can look up the MHDS anywhere
you want for D3, it will say the same thing - these are established by
govt. oversight divisions..  Anyone that has worked in industry, safety
or anything similar knows what a material data sheet is.  They're based
on established science and studies, if a data sheet says something is
poison,  you can bet your ass it is!  D-3 is the same toxicity as
Mercury, and just a tad under Arsenic in terms of the MHDS, this really
can't be debated - anyone can look up the data sheets.

You can look up the MHDS for any other vitamin, and compare notes.. 
Here's the MHDS for Vitamin C..

http://ull.chemistry.uakron.edu/erd/Chemicals/1/8291.html
 (0 Poison rating, that is, it's simply not poisonous to Humans)

Here's a list of the top 4 rat poisons in the US. (D3 is second, and
note it lists low to moderate toxicity for humans)
http://icwdm.org/Images/rat-norway/Norway12.gif

Please note, I am not saying we don't need D. I am saying to eat some
sardines, and get some sunshine.  Not take this stuff from the drug
companies. I have a gut feeling there is more to the D story than we're
being told, just like we know there is more to the fluoride story than
we were told.  Anytime I see a huge push on something from major media
sources, I start to ask questions, and you should to.

Draw your own conclusions of course, I'm just pointing out some data on
this most people aren't aware of. Nothing more, nothing less.  Sardines
and Sunlight, there is no "Magic Pill" from Big Pharma, never will be.


Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: 
But it says that the views expressed are just those of the page author, and not 
endorsed by the university.  Does anyone on the list (Brooks, Marshall - 
anyone!)  have anything to say about this please?  I have just sent off for 
three lots of D3 sprays because I have read such good reports on this 
substance.  One of those was one of the big insurance companies too.  dee
>
>On 21 Apr 2010, at 17:21, bodhisattva wrote:
>
>
>I'm not mixing up the D's, look at the MHDS yourself, it's for D3.  D3 is a 
>STRONG acidic, oxidising agent. It's D3 that makes the most effective Rat 
>Poison, along with ZyclonB and Fluoride of course.
>>
>>http://ull.chemistry.uakron.edu/erd/Chemicals/8000/7235.html
>>Chronic ingestion may cause effects similar to those of acute ingestion. 
>>Ingestion May be fatal if swallowed. May cause irritation of the digestive 
>>tract. May cause kidney damage. May cause cardiac disturbances. Ingestion may 
>>lead to mental retardation. 
>>Hazard class 6.1
>>
>>
>>

Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Well I don't happen to work in industry, safety *or* anything similar so I 
don't know what it is and don't understand it at all.  You have to remember 
that potassium, iron, selenium,  etc.,  are also highly toxic, but essential to 
life also.  Thanks for the information though.  dee

On 21 Apr 2010, at 19:40, bodhisattva wrote:

> It's a Material Handling Data Sheet!  You can look up the MHDS anywhere you 
> want for D3, it will say the same thing - these are established by govt. 
> oversight divisions..  Anyone that has worked in industry, safety or anything 
> similar knows what a material data sheet is.  They're based on established 
> science and studies, if a data sheet says something is poison,  you can bet 
> your ass it is!  D-3 is the same toxicity as Mercury, and just a tad under 
> Arsenic in terms of the MHDS, this really can't be debated - anyone can look 
> up the data sheets.
> 
> You can look up the MHDS for any other vitamin, and compare notes..  Here's 
> the MHDS for Vitamin C..
> 


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Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

And what if you live where there is very little sunlight - or you can't take 
it?  And sardines are now full of mercury so that is a no go for a start!  dee

On 21 Apr 2010, at 19:52, bodhisattva wrote:

> Small quantities is the operative word, but science apparently will never 
> understand natural law, and continues to break it with recklessness and bad 
> results. I don't believe for a second the D the sun makes in our skin is the 
> same as the synthetic hormone from Merck.
> 
> However, if you must take D, then do some research on what buffers the 
> residual amounts in your body. Perhaps supplement D+K, so the rest is 
> buffered off. Most people are told to avoid things with K in it (Grassfed 
> Cows, and the meat/milk/butter from them, free range hen eggs, etc), and 
> since K2 is probably vastly more important than D this isn't a good thing. If 
> you drink a can of soda, take a tums along with it.  The calcium will bind 
> and flush much of the excess Fluoride.  Same principle really. It'd probably 
> say a D+K+Magnesium+Calcium combined supplement might be a better idea than 
> just gobs and gobs of D.
> 
> Sunlight and Sardines!
> 


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Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[poast]

Hello Tina,

No.  It is difficult to get enough light from LED's to do much good, unless you 
get a whole pannel of them.

Stick with the D3 suppliments.

Tom

- Original Message - 
From: Christina Mattson 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)


OK, now you guy's are scaring me, I have been told by by a holistic doctor and 
it was also recommended by a Pediatrician who also is a geneticist and 
specialist on children with Down syndrome to give vitamin D to my son. One said 
to increase vitamin D supplements to 1000 IU  and the other said to give him up 
to 5000 IU because we don't get near enough here in Alaska especially when 
there's only a few hours of daylight in winter.
Does anyone think Red LED light would be a suitable substitute? 
Tina

Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[poast]

Hello Bodhisattva,

Yes, D3 is used to kill rodents...

However, did you happen to notice the amounts needed?

I believe the LD50 for rats is around 43 mg/kg of weight.

The standard dose of D3 recommended for people is 5000 IU.

D3 resin has 2800 IU per gram, or 28000 IU per milligram.

If a "rat" weighs 90 kg, it would take 4050 mg of D3 to achieve killing half of 
the population you are testing.

4050 mg is 11340 IU.

This is a lot more than the 5000 IU recommended.

I believe the old adage is that water will kill you if you drink enough.  I 
wonder what the LD50 is to kill rodents by filling them with water...

While this is an interesting use of D3, it is nothing to be alarmed about 
concerning taking D3 to build your serum levels to a therapeutic range.

Tom


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  From: bodhisattva 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 8:21 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)


  I'm not mixing up the D's, look at the MHDS yourself, it's for D3.  D3 is a 
STRONG acidic, oxidising agent. It's D3 that makes the most effective Rat 
Poison, along with ZyclonB and Fluoride of course.

  http://ull.chemistry.uakron.edu/erd/Chemicals/8000/7235.html
  Chronic ingestion may cause effects similar to those of acute ingestion. 
Ingestion May be fatal if swallowed. May cause irritation of the digestive 
tract. May cause kidney damage. May cause cardiac disturbances. Ingestion may 
lead to mental retardation. 

Hazard class 6.1

  Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: 
Yes but some articles have said more or less the same of colloidal silver.  Are 
you sure you are not mixing up your D's--because I believe D2 is harder to 
assimilate. dee

On 21 Apr 2010, at 02:52, bodhisattva wrote:

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodenticide
Remember, Fluoride, ZyclonB and VitaminD are potent rodent killers, and as a 
consequence, the first two were used to great effect to gas humans in mass 
quantities. Look at the other fun Rodenticides, and discover where those are 
added to the things in your life. Some contrail tests claim they always find a 
lot of barium, which of course is another rat poison.  Seems to be a trend 
these days, you know?

http://ull.chemistr y.uakron. edu/erd/Chemical s/8000/7235. html
VITAMIN D - EC Classvery toxic
RTECS class Reproductive Effector; Human Data
 Poison_Class2
Exposure effects 


  

Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[sol]

cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

I take 5000 units of D3 daily, and intend to continue...
panickers nonwithstanding...


same here.as days get longer also plan to get natural sun 
per "The UV Advantage".
my vit D level is very low, so hope to raise it, as I have read of 
people feeling much better when their vit D levels get close to optimal.

sol


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Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Garrick]

My theory is that good D3 supplement will be more effective for some people.
Better than sun exposure due to a clogged up liver. The liver must be
healthy to transport the sunshine D where it is needed> Maybe a not so good
liver can distribute health food store D3 better

g



On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 7:39 PM,  wrote:

> I take 5000 units of D3 daily, and intend to continue...
> panickers nonwithstanding...
>
>Chuck
> Save Georgia's economy...Eat more canned Possum!
>
>

Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Christina Mattson]

I've worked hard to help my son thrive and will continue to listen, ask 
questions and research what i learn and yes due to the complications i've had 
since i was told my son had Down syndrome i have suffered many a panic attack 
but i am always willing to listen.

--- On Wed, 4/21/10, cking...@nycap.rr.com  wrote:


From: cking...@nycap.rr.com 
Subject: Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, April 21, 2010, 3:39 PM


I take 5000 units of D3 daily, and intend to continue...
panickers nonwithstanding...

                        Chuck
Save Georgia's economy...Eat more canned Possum!

On 4/21/2010 6:24:56 PM, Christina Mattson (tinamatt...@yahoo.com)
wrote:
> OK, now you
> guy's are scaring me, I have been told by by a holistic doctor and it was 
> also recommended by a Pediatrician who also is a geneticist and specialist on 
> children with Down syndrome to give vitamin D to my son. One said to increase 
> vitamin D supplements to 1000 IU and the other said to give him up to 5000 IU 
> because we don't
> get near enough here in Alaska especially when
> there's only a few hours of daylight in winter.
> Does anyone think Red LED light would be a suitable substitute?
> Tina
> 
> --- On Wed, 4/21/10, Bob Banever  wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Bob Banever 
> Subject: Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Date: Wednesday, April 21, 2010, 12:47 PM
> 
> I love sardines and most other seafoods, but the oceans are polluted with so 
> many toxins I'd
> be afraid to eat them more than once a month. Sad really.
> - Original Message - From: "bodhisattva"  [link: us.mc306.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bodhisat...@mutemail.com]>
> To:  com/mc/compose?to=silver-l...@eskimo.com]>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 11:52 AM
> Subject: Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)
> 
> 


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Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[cking001]

I take 5000 units of D3 daily, and intend to continue...
panickers nonwithstanding...

Chuck
Save Georgia's economy...Eat more canned Possum!

On 4/21/2010 6:24:56 PM, Christina Mattson (tinamatt...@yahoo.com)
wrote:
> OK, now you
> guy's are scaring me, I have been told by by a holistic doctor and it was 
> also recommended by a Pediatrician who also is a geneticist and specialist on 
> children with Down syndrome to give vitamin D to my son. One said to increase 
> vitamin D supplements to 1000 IU and the other said to give him up to 5000 IU 
> because we don't
> get near enough here in Alaska especially when
> there's only a few hours of daylight in winter.
> Does anyone think Red LED light would be a suitable substitute?
> Tina
> 
> --- On Wed, 4/21/10, Bob Banever  wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Bob Banever 
> Subject: Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Date: Wednesday, April 21, 2010, 12:47 PM
> 
> I love sardines and most other seafoods, but the oceans are polluted with so 
> many toxins I'd
> be afraid to eat them more than once a month. Sad really.
> - Original Message - From: "bodhisattva"  [link: us.mc306.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=bodhisat...@mutemail.com]>
> To:  com/mc/compose?to=silver-l...@eskimo.com]>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 11:52 AM
> Subject: Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)
> 
> 


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Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Christina Mattson]

OK, now you guy's are scaring me, I have been told by by a holistic doctor and 
it was also recommended by a Pediatrician who also is a geneticist and 
specialist on children with Down syndrome to give vitamin D to my son. One 
said to increase vitamin D supplements to 1000 IU  and the other said to give 
him up to 5000 IU because we don't get near enough here in Alaska especially 
when there's only a few hours of daylight in winter.
Does anyone think Red LED light would be a suitable substitute? 
Tina
 
--- On Wed, 4/21/10, Bob Banever  wrote:


From: Bob Banever 
Subject: Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, April 21, 2010, 12:47 PM


I love sardines and most other seafoods, but the oceans are polluted with so 
many toxins I'd be afraid to eat them more than once a month.  Sad really.
- Original Message - From: "bodhisattva" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)


> Small quantities is the operative word, but science apparently will never 
> understand natural law, and continues to break it with recklessness and bad 
> results. I don't believe for a second the D the sun makes in our skin is the 
> same as the synthetic hormone from Merck.
> 
> However, if you must take D, then do some research on what buffers the 
> residual amounts in your body. Perhaps supplement D+K, so the rest is 
> buffered off. Most people are told to avoid things with K in it (Grassfed 
> Cows, and the meat/milk/butter from them, free range hen eggs, etc), and 
> since K2 is probably vastly more important than D this isn't a good thing. If 
> you drink a can of soda, take a tums along with it.  The calcium will bind 
> and flush much of the excess Fluoride.  Same principle really. It'd probably 
> say a D+K+Magnesium+Calcium combined supplement might be a better idea than 
> just gobs and gobs of D.
> 
> Sunlight and Sardines!
> 
> Dan Nave wrote:
>> Right, vitamin D is a hormone, to be taken in small quantities if
>> supplemented.  People working
>> with many pounds of the compound would have to be careful to not
>> ingest more than the extremely small amounts
>> required for healthy living.  Getting this much vitamin D from
>> sunlight would be like staying out naked in the
>> full sun in the desert for 300 years.
>> 
>> You would be sure to be burned to a crisp.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Marshall Dudley  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, D3 makes a good rat poison, especially when combined with
>>> anticoagulants. It kills rats for the same reason it help people, it
>>> mobilizes calcium.  But too much of it and it becomes toxic, mobilizing too
>>> much calcium.  Everything is toxic if too much is consumed, even water. Salt
>>> is very toxic to things as well, fresh water fish, slugs and microbes, but
>>> is also an essential nutrient.  But if you eat too much salt it will kill
>>> you too.  D3 is safe for adult humans up to 10,000 IU a day long term.
>>> 
>>> 400 IU is 40 micrograms. Rat LD50 is 42 mg/kg. If you weight 100 kg, then
>>> the LD50 would likely be around 4.2 grams.   You could reach this level by
>>> taking approximately 90,000 400 UI pills at once, but most likely you would
>>> succumb to the huge amount of oil in 90,000 or the stomach would burst from
>>> the volume of these pills first.
>>> 
>>> Marshall
>>> 
>>> bodhisattva wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I'm not mixing up the D's, look at the MHDS yourself, it's for D3.  D3 is
>>>> a STRONG acidic, oxidising agent. It's D3 that makes the most effective Rat
>>>> Poison, along with ZyclonB and Fluoride of course.
>>>> 
>>>> http://ull.chemistry.uakron.edu/erd/Chemicals/8000/7235.html
>>>> Chronic ingestion may cause effects similar to those of acute ingestion.
>>>> Ingestion May be fatal if swallowed. May cause irritation of the digestive
>>>> tract. *May cause kidney damage*. May cause *cardiac disturbances*.
>>>> *Ingestion may lead to mental retardation*.
>>>> Hazard class     6.1
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Yes but some articles have said more or less the same of
>>>>>  colloidal silver.  Are you sure you are not mixing up your D's--because
>>>>> I
>>>>>  believe D2 is harder to assimilate. dee
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 21 Apr 2010, at 02:52, bodhisattva wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>

Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Bob Banever]

I love sardines and most other seafoods, but the oceans are polluted with so 
many toxins I'd be afraid to eat them more than once a month.  Sad really.
- Original Message - 
From: "bodhisattva" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)


Small quantities is the operative word, but science apparently will never 
understand natural law, and continues to break it with recklessness and 
bad results. I don't believe for a second the D the sun makes in our skin 
is the same as the synthetic hormone from Merck.


However, if you must take D, then do some research on what buffers the 
residual amounts in your body. Perhaps supplement D+K, so the rest is 
buffered off. Most people are told to avoid things with K in it (Grassfed 
Cows, and the meat/milk/butter from them, free range hen eggs, etc), and 
since K2 is probably vastly more important than D this isn't a good thing. 
If you drink a can of soda, take a tums along with it.  The calcium will 
bind and flush much of the excess Fluoride.  Same principle really. It'd 
probably say a D+K+Magnesium+Calcium combined supplement might be a better 
idea than just gobs and gobs of D.


Sunlight and Sardines!

Dan Nave wrote:

Right, vitamin D is a hormone, to be taken in small quantities if
supplemented.  People working
with many pounds of the compound would have to be careful to not
ingest more than the extremely small amounts
required for healthy living.  Getting this much vitamin D from
sunlight would be like staying out naked in the
full sun in the desert for 300 years.

You would be sure to be burned to a crisp.

Dan


On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Marshall Dudley  
wrote:



Yes, D3 makes a good rat poison, especially when combined with
anticoagulants. It kills rats for the same reason it help people, it
mobilizes calcium.  But too much of it and it becomes toxic, mobilizing 
too
much calcium.  Everything is toxic if too much is consumed, even water. 
Salt
is very toxic to things as well, fresh water fish, slugs and microbes, 
but
is also an essential nutrient.  But if you eat too much salt it will 
kill

you too.  D3 is safe for adult humans up to 10,000 IU a day long term.

400 IU is 40 micrograms. Rat LD50 is 42 mg/kg. If you weight 100 kg, 
then
the LD50 would likely be around 4.2 grams.   You could reach this level 
by
taking approximately 90,000 400 UI pills at once, but most likely you 
would
succumb to the huge amount of oil in 90,000 or the stomach would burst 
from

the volume of these pills first.

Marshall

bodhisattva wrote:

I'm not mixing up the D's, look at the MHDS yourself, it's for D3.  D3 
is
a STRONG acidic, oxidising agent. It's D3 that makes the most effective 
Rat

Poison, along with ZyclonB and Fluoride of course.

http://ull.chemistry.uakron.edu/erd/Chemicals/8000/7235.html
Chronic ingestion may cause effects similar to those of acute 
ingestion.
Ingestion May be fatal if swallowed. May cause irritation of the 
digestive

tract. *May cause kidney damage*. May cause *cardiac disturbances*.
*Ingestion may lead to mental retardation*.
Hazard class 6.1


Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:


Yes but some articles have said more or less the same of
 colloidal silver.  Are you sure you are not mixing up your 
D's--because

I
 believe D2 is harder to assimilate. dee

On 21 Apr 2010, at 02:52, bodhisattva wrote:




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodenticide
Remember, Fluoride, ZyclonB and VitaminD are potent rodent killers, 
and

as a
 consequence, the first two were used to great effect to gas humans 
in

mass
 quantities. Look at the other fun Rodenticides, and discover where
those are
 added to the things in your life. Some contrail tests claim they 
always
 find a lot of barium, which of course is another rat poison.  Seems 
to

be a
 trend these days, you know?

http://ull.chemistr y.uakron. edu/erd/Chemical s/8000/7235. html
VITAMIN D - EC Classvery toxic
RTECS class Reproductive Effector; Human Data
 Poison_Class2
Exposure effects





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Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Bob Banever]

If you expose your entire body to the full sun for a few hours you will 
produce about 14,000 IU's of D3 daily.  Taking less than half this amount in 
a supplement form (made from lanolin actually) isn't harmful.


Bob
- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Nave" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)


Right, vitamin D is a hormone, to be taken in small quantities if
supplemented.  People working
with many pounds of the compound would have to be careful to not
ingest more than the extremely small amounts
required for healthy living.  Getting this much vitamin D from
sunlight would be like staying out naked in the
full sun in the desert for 300 years.

You would be sure to be burned to a crisp.

Dan


On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Marshall Dudley  
wrote:

Yes, D3 makes a good rat poison, especially when combined with
anticoagulants. It kills rats for the same reason it help people, it
mobilizes calcium. But too much of it and it becomes toxic, mobilizing too
much calcium. Everything is toxic if too much is consumed, even water. 
Salt

is very toxic to things as well, fresh water fish, slugs and microbes, but
is also an essential nutrient. But if you eat too much salt it will kill
you too. D3 is safe for adult humans up to 10,000 IU a day long term.

400 IU is 40 micrograms. Rat LD50 is 42 mg/kg. If you weight 100 kg, then
the LD50 would likely be around 4.2 grams. You could reach this level by
taking approximately 90,000 400 UI pills at once, but most likely you 
would
succumb to the huge amount of oil in 90,000 or the stomach would burst 
from

the volume of these pills first.

Marshall

bodhisattva wrote:


I'm not mixing up the D's, look at the MHDS yourself, it's for D3. D3 is
a STRONG acidic, oxidising agent. It's D3 that makes the most effective 
Rat

Poison, along with ZyclonB and Fluoride of course.

http://ull.chemistry.uakron.edu/erd/Chemicals/8000/7235.html
Chronic ingestion may cause effects similar to those of acute ingestion.
Ingestion May be fatal if swallowed. May cause irritation of the 
digestive

tract. *May cause kidney damage*. May cause *cardiac disturbances*.
*Ingestion may lead to mental retardation*.
Hazard class 6.1


Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:


Yes but some articles have said more or less the same of
colloidal silver. Are you sure you are not mixing up your D's--because
I
believe D2 is harder to assimilate. dee

On 21 Apr 2010, at 02:52, bodhisattva wrote:




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodenticide
Remember, Fluoride, ZyclonB and VitaminD are potent rodent killers, and
as a
consequence, the first two were used to great effect to gas humans in
mass
quantities. Look at the other fun Rodenticides, and discover where
those are
added to the things in your life. Some contrail tests claim they always
find a lot of barium, which of course is another rat poison. Seems to
be a
trend these days, you know?

http://ull.chemistr y.uakron. edu/erd/Chemical s/8000/7235. html
VITAMIN D - EC Class very toxic
RTECS class Reproductive Effector; Human Data
Poison_Class 2
Exposure effects









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Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Marshall Dudley]

bodhisattva wrote:
Small quantities is the operative word, but science apparently will 
never understand natural law, and continues to break it with 
recklessness and bad results. I don't believe for a second the D the 
sun makes in our skin is the same as the synthetic hormone from Merck.
No one ever said they were the same.  D3 is what is called a precursor, 
which converts to the D that is produced by the sun when metabolized.  
D2 is the same, but a different precursor. This is not uncommon, for 
instance L-tryptophane is a precursor for melatonan.


However, if you must take D, then do some research on what buffers the 
residual amounts in your body. Perhaps supplement D+K, so the rest is 
buffered off. Most people are told to avoid things with K in it 
(Grassfed Cows, and the meat/milk/butter from them, free range hen 
eggs, etc), and since K2 is probably vastly more important than D this 
isn't a good thing. 
What do you mean by K?  Do you mean vitamin K, the clotting vitamin or 
potassium, which is K on the periodic table?
If you drink a can of soda, take a tums along with it.  The calcium 
will bind and flush much of the excess Fluoride.  Same principle 
really. It'd probably say a D+K+Magnesium+Calcium combined supplement 
might be a better idea than just gobs and gobs of D.
That is actually what I do supplement with (D3, potassium, calcium and 
magnesium), but the 5,000 IU of D3 I take in addition is for the immune 
system, not for calcium mobilization, which 400 IU would be plenty for.


Marshall


Sunlight and Sardines!

Dan Nave wrote:

Right, vitamin D is a hormone, to be taken in small quantities if
supplemented.  People working
with many pounds of the compound would have to be careful to not
ingest more than the extremely small amounts
required for healthy living.  Getting this much vitamin D from
sunlight would be like staying out naked in the
full sun in the desert for 300 years.

You would be sure to be burned to a crisp.

Dan


On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Marshall Dudley 


wrote:
 

Yes, D3 makes a good rat poison, especially when combined with
anticoagulants. It kills rats for the same reason it help people, it
mobilizes calcium.  But too much of it and it becomes toxic, mobilizing

too

much calcium.  Everything is toxic if too much is consumed, even water.

Salt

is very toxic to things as well, fresh water fish, slugs and microbes,

but
is also an essential nutrient.  But if you eat too much salt it will 
kill

you too.  D3 is safe for adult humans up to 10,000 IU a day long term.

400 IU is 40 micrograms. Rat LD50 is 42 mg/kg. If you weight 100 kg, 
then

the LD50 would likely be around 4.2 grams.   You could reach this level

by

taking approximately 90,000 400 UI pills at once, but most likely you

would

succumb to the huge amount of oil in 90,000 or the stomach would burst

from

the volume of these pills first.

Marshall

bodhisattva wrote:
   

I'm not mixing up the D's, look at the MHDS yourself, it's for D3.  D3

is
a STRONG acidic, oxidising agent. It's D3 that makes the most 
effective

Rat

Poison, along with ZyclonB and Fluoride of course.

http://ull.chemistry.uakron.edu/erd/Chemicals/8000/7235.html
Chronic ingestion may cause effects similar to those of acute 
ingestion.

Ingestion May be fatal if swallowed. May cause irritation of the

digestive

tract. *May cause kidney damage*. May cause *cardiac disturbances*.
*Ingestion may lead to mental retardation*.
Hazard class 6.1


Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
 

Yes but some articles have said more or less the same of
 colloidal silver.  Are you sure you are not mixing up your

D's--because

I
 believe D2 is harder to assimilate. dee

On 21 Apr 2010, at 02:52, bodhisattva wrote:


   

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodenticide
Remember, Fluoride, ZyclonB and VitaminD are potent rodent killers,

and

as a
 consequence, the first two were used to great effect to gas 
humans in

mass
 quantities. Look at the other fun Rodenticides, and discover where
those are
 added to the things in your life. Some contrail tests claim they

always

 find a lot of barium, which of course is another rat poison.  Seems

to

be a
 trend these days, you know?

http://ull.chemistr y.uakron. edu/erd/Chemical s/8000/7235. html
VITAMIN D - EC Classvery toxic
RTECS class Reproductive Effector; Human Data
 Poison_Class2
Exposure effects

  



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Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Marshall Dudley]

bodhisattva wrote:
It's a Material Handling Data Sheet!  You can look up the MHDS 
anywhere you want for D3, it will say the same thing - these are 
established by govt. oversight divisions..  Anyone that has worked in 
industry, safety or anything similar knows what a material data sheet 
is.  They're based on established science and studies, if a data sheet 
says something is poison,  you can bet your ass it is!  D-3 is the 
same toxicity as Mercury,
Mercury metal is almost non-toxic.  You can swallow the contents of a 
thermometer with no ill effects. Now methyl mercury is another matter.
and just a tad under Arsenic in terms of the MHDS, this really can't 
be debated - anyone can look up the data sheets.
That is irrelevant. The amount of D for health is in the micrograms, the 
amount for death is in the grams, a million to one or so difference.  
Vitamin D is quickly metabolized, arsenic is a heavy metal that 
accumulates. If vitamin D accumulated like arsenic then it would be a 
problem, but it does not stick around long.


You can look up the MHDS for any other vitamin, and compare notes..  
Here's the MHDS for Vitamin C..


http://ull.chemistry.uakron.edu/erd/Chemicals/1/8291.html
 (0 Poison rating, that is, it's simply not poisonous to Humans)

Here's a list of the top 4 rat poisons in the US. (D3 is second, and 
note it lists low to moderate toxicity for humans)

http://icwdm.org/Images/rat-norway/Norway12.gif

Please note, I am not saying we don't need D. I am saying to eat some 
sardines, and get some sunshine.  Not take this stuff from the drug 
companies. I have a gut feeling there is more to the D story than 
we're being told, just like we know there is more to the fluoride 
story than we were told.  Anytime I see a huge push on something from 
major media sources, I start to ask questions, and you should to.
If you get enough sun to get poisoning from D you would definitely be 
well done, no way to live through that much exposure. If you were to eat 
enough sardines to give you poisoning from D, other things would kill 
you first, such as the methyl mercury in the sardines, or simply the 
pure volume of sardines that it would require you to eat.  Take too much 
of almost anything and it will kill you, nothing new about that.  Many 
many things are toxic if you take more than the normal amount of them.  
Even eating too many bitter almonds, or fruit seeds can kill you, but a 
lesser amount can sometimes cure cancer.


Marshall


Draw your own conclusions of course, I'm just pointing out some data 
on this most people aren't aware of. Nothing more, nothing less.  
Sardines and Sunlight, there is no "Magic Pill" from Big Pharma, never 
will be.



Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

But it says that the views expressed are just those of the
 page author, and not endorsed by the university.  Does anyone on the list
 (Brooks, Marshall - anyone!)  have anything to say about this please?  I have
 just sent off for three lots of D3 sprays because I have read such good
 reports on this substance.  One of those was one of the big insurance companies
 too.  dee

On 21 Apr 2010, at 17:21, bodhisattva wrote:

  

I'm not mixing up the D's, look at the MHDS yourself, it's
 for D3.  D3 is a STRONG acidic, oxidising agent. It's D3 that makes the most
 effective Rat Poison, along with ZyclonB and Fluoride of course.

http://ull.chemistry.uakron.edu/erd/Chemicals/8000/7235.html
Chronic ingestion may cause effects similar to those of acute ingestion.
 Ingestion May be fatal if swallowed. May cause irritation of the digestive
 tract. May cause kidney damage. May cause cardiac disturbances. Ingestion may
 lead to mental retardation. 
Hazard class 6.1









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Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[bodhisattva]

Small quantities is the operative word, but science apparently will 
never understand natural law, and continues to break it with 
recklessness and bad results. I don't believe for a second the D the sun 
makes in our skin is the same as the synthetic hormone from Merck.


However, if you must take D, then do some research on what buffers the 
residual amounts in your body. Perhaps supplement D+K, so the rest is 
buffered off. Most people are told to avoid things with K in it 
(Grassfed Cows, and the meat/milk/butter from them, free range hen eggs, 
etc), and since K2 is probably vastly more important than D this isn't a 
good thing. If you drink a can of soda, take a tums along with it.  The 
calcium will bind and flush much of the excess Fluoride.  Same principle 
really. It'd probably say a D+K+Magnesium+Calcium combined supplement 
might be a better idea than just gobs and gobs of D.


Sunlight and Sardines!

Dan Nave wrote:

Right, vitamin D is a hormone, to be taken in small quantities if
supplemented.  People working
with many pounds of the compound would have to be careful to not
ingest more than the extremely small amounts
required for healthy living.  Getting this much vitamin D from
sunlight would be like staying out naked in the
full sun in the desert for 300 years.

You would be sure to be burned to a crisp.

Dan


On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Marshall Dudley  wrote:
  

Yes, D3 makes a good rat poison, especially when combined with
anticoagulants. It kills rats for the same reason it help people, it
mobilizes calcium.  But too much of it and it becomes toxic, mobilizing too
much calcium.  Everything is toxic if too much is consumed, even water. Salt
is very toxic to things as well, fresh water fish, slugs and microbes, but
is also an essential nutrient.  But if you eat too much salt it will kill
you too.  D3 is safe for adult humans up to 10,000 IU a day long term.

400 IU is 40 micrograms. Rat LD50 is 42 mg/kg. If you weight 100 kg, then
the LD50 would likely be around 4.2 grams.   You could reach this level by
taking approximately 90,000 400 UI pills at once, but most likely you would
succumb to the huge amount of oil in 90,000 or the stomach would burst from
the volume of these pills first.

Marshall

bodhisattva wrote:


I'm not mixing up the D's, look at the MHDS yourself, it's for D3.  D3 is
a STRONG acidic, oxidising agent. It's D3 that makes the most effective Rat
Poison, along with ZyclonB and Fluoride of course.

http://ull.chemistry.uakron.edu/erd/Chemicals/8000/7235.html
Chronic ingestion may cause effects similar to those of acute ingestion.
Ingestion May be fatal if swallowed. May cause irritation of the digestive
tract. *May cause kidney damage*. May cause *cardiac disturbances*.
*Ingestion may lead to mental retardation*.
Hazard class 6.1


Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
  

Yes but some articles have said more or less the same of
 colloidal silver.  Are you sure you are not mixing up your D's--because
I
 believe D2 is harder to assimilate. dee

On 21 Apr 2010, at 02:52, bodhisattva wrote:




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodenticide
Remember, Fluoride, ZyclonB and VitaminD are potent rodent killers, and
as a
 consequence, the first two were used to great effect to gas humans in
mass
 quantities. Look at the other fun Rodenticides, and discover where
those are
 added to the things in your life. Some contrail tests claim they always
 find a lot of barium, which of course is another rat poison.  Seems to
be a
 trend these days, you know?

http://ull.chemistr y.uakron. edu/erd/Chemical s/8000/7235. html
VITAMIN D - EC Classvery toxic
RTECS class Reproductive Effector; Human Data
 Poison_Class2
Exposure effects

  



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Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Dan Nave]

Right, vitamin D is a hormone, to be taken in small quantities if
supplemented.  People working
with many pounds of the compound would have to be careful to not
ingest more than the extremely small amounts
required for healthy living.  Getting this much vitamin D from
sunlight would be like staying out naked in the
full sun in the desert for 300 years.

You would be sure to be burned to a crisp.

Dan


On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Marshall Dudley  wrote:
> Yes, D3 makes a good rat poison, especially when combined with
> anticoagulants. It kills rats for the same reason it help people, it
> mobilizes calcium.  But too much of it and it becomes toxic, mobilizing too
> much calcium.  Everything is toxic if too much is consumed, even water. Salt
> is very toxic to things as well, fresh water fish, slugs and microbes, but
> is also an essential nutrient.  But if you eat too much salt it will kill
> you too.  D3 is safe for adult humans up to 10,000 IU a day long term.
>
> 400 IU is 40 micrograms. Rat LD50 is 42 mg/kg. If you weight 100 kg, then
> the LD50 would likely be around 4.2 grams.   You could reach this level by
> taking approximately 90,000 400 UI pills at once, but most likely you would
> succumb to the huge amount of oil in 90,000 or the stomach would burst from
> the volume of these pills first.
>
> Marshall
>
> bodhisattva wrote:
>>
>> I'm not mixing up the D's, look at the MHDS yourself, it's for D3.  D3 is
>> a STRONG acidic, oxidising agent. It's D3 that makes the most effective Rat
>> Poison, along with ZyclonB and Fluoride of course.
>>
>> http://ull.chemistry.uakron.edu/erd/Chemicals/8000/7235.html
>> Chronic ingestion may cause effects similar to those of acute ingestion.
>> Ingestion May be fatal if swallowed. May cause irritation of the digestive
>> tract. *May cause kidney damage*. May cause *cardiac disturbances*.
>> *Ingestion may lead to mental retardation*.
>> Hazard class     6.1
>>
>>
>> Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes but some articles have said more or less the same of
>>>  colloidal silver.  Are you sure you are not mixing up your D's--because
>>> I
>>>  believe D2 is harder to assimilate. dee
>>>
>>> On 21 Apr 2010, at 02:52, bodhisattva wrote:
>>>
>>>

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodenticide
 Remember, Fluoride, ZyclonB and VitaminD are potent rodent killers, and
 as a
  consequence, the first two were used to great effect to gas humans in
 mass
  quantities. Look at the other fun Rodenticides, and discover where
 those are
  added to the things in your life. Some contrail tests claim they always
  find a lot of barium, which of course is another rat poison.  Seems to
 be a
  trend these days, you know?

 http://ull.chemistr y.uakron. edu/erd/Chemical s/8000/7235. html
 VITAMIN D - EC Class    very toxic
 RTECS class     Reproductive Effector; Human Data
  Poison_Class    2
 Exposure effects

>>>
>>>
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Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[bodhisattva]

It's a Material Handling Data Sheet!  You can look up the MHDS anywhere 
you want for D3, it will say the same thing - these are established by 
govt. oversight divisions..  Anyone that has worked in industry, safety 
or anything similar knows what a material data sheet is.  They're based 
on established science and studies, if a data sheet says something is 
poison,  you can bet your ass it is!  D-3 is the same toxicity as 
Mercury, and just a tad under Arsenic in terms of the MHDS, this really 
can't be debated - anyone can look up the data sheets.


You can look up the MHDS for any other vitamin, and compare notes..  
Here's the MHDS for Vitamin C..


http://ull.chemistry.uakron.edu/erd/Chemicals/1/8291.html
(0 Poison rating, that is, it's simply not poisonous to Humans)

Here's a list of the top 4 rat poisons in the US. (D3 is second, and 
note it lists low to moderate toxicity for humans)

http://icwdm.org/Images/rat-norway/Norway12.gif

Please note, I am not saying we don't need D. I am saying to eat some 
sardines, and get some sunshine.  Not take this stuff from the drug 
companies. I have a gut feeling there is more to the D story than we're 
being told, just like we know there is more to the fluoride story than 
we were told.  Anytime I see a huge push on something from major media 
sources, I start to ask questions, and you should to.


Draw your own conclusions of course, I'm just pointing out some data on 
this most people aren't aware of. Nothing more, nothing less.  Sardines 
and Sunlight, there is no "Magic Pill" from Big Pharma, never will be.



Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

But it says that the views expressed are just those of the page author, and not 
endorsed by the university.  Does anyone on the list (Brooks, Marshall - 
anyone!)  have anything to say about this please?  I have just sent off for 
three lots of D3 sprays because I have read such good reports on this 
substance.  One of those was one of the big insurance companies too.  dee

On 21 Apr 2010, at 17:21, bodhisattva wrote:

  

I'm not mixing up the D's, look at the MHDS yourself, it's for D3.  D3 is a 
STRONG acidic, oxidising agent. It's D3 that makes the most effective Rat 
Poison, along with ZyclonB and Fluoride of course.

http://ull.chemistry.uakron.edu/erd/Chemicals/8000/7235.html
Chronic ingestion may cause effects similar to those of acute ingestion. Ingestion May be fatal if swallowed. May cause irritation of the digestive tract. May cause kidney damage. May cause cardiac disturbances. Ingestion may lead to mental retardation. 
Hazard class 6.1

Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Thanks for this Marshall.  dee

On 21 Apr 2010, at 18:38, Marshall Dudley wrote:

> Yes, D3 makes a good rat poison, especially when combined with 
> anticoagulants. It kills rats for the same reason it help people, it 
> mobilizes calcium.  But too much of it and it becomes toxic, mobilizing too 
> much calcium.  Everything is toxic if too much is consumed, even water. Salt 
> is very toxic to things as well, fresh water fish, slugs and microbes, but is 
> also an essential nutrient.  But if you eat too much salt it will kill you 
> too.  D3 is safe for adult humans up to 10,000 IU a day long term.
> 
> 400 IU is 40 micrograms. Rat LD50 is 42 mg/kg. If you weight 100 kg, then the 
> LD50 would likely be around 4.2 grams.   You could reach this level by taking 
> approximately 90,000 400 UI pills at once, but most likely you would succumb 
> to the huge amount of oil in 90,000 or the stomach would burst from the 
> volume of these pills first.
> 
> Marshall
> 


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Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

But it says that the views expressed are just those of the page author, and not 
endorsed by the university.  Does anyone on the list (Brooks, Marshall - 
anyone!)  have anything to say about this please?  I have just sent off for 
three lots of D3 sprays because I have read such good reports on this 
substance.  One of those was one of the big insurance companies too.  dee

On 21 Apr 2010, at 17:21, bodhisattva wrote:

> I'm not mixing up the D's, look at the MHDS yourself, it's for D3.  D3 is a 
> STRONG acidic, oxidising agent. It's D3 that makes the most effective Rat 
> Poison, along with ZyclonB and Fluoride of course.
> 
> http://ull.chemistry.uakron.edu/erd/Chemicals/8000/7235.html
> Chronic ingestion may cause effects similar to those of acute ingestion. 
> Ingestion May be fatal if swallowed. May cause irritation of the digestive 
> tract. May cause kidney damage. May cause cardiac disturbances. Ingestion may 
> lead to mental retardation. 
> Hazard class 6.1
> 
> 


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Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Marshall Dudley]

Yes, D3 makes a good rat poison, especially when combined with 
anticoagulants. It kills rats for the same reason it help people, it 
mobilizes calcium.  But too much of it and it becomes toxic, mobilizing 
too much calcium.  Everything is toxic if too much is consumed, even 
water. Salt is very toxic to things as well, fresh water fish, slugs and 
microbes, but is also an essential nutrient.  But if you eat too much 
salt it will kill you too.  D3 is safe for adult humans up to 10,000 IU 
a day long term.


400 IU is 40 micrograms. Rat LD50 is 42 mg/kg. If you weight 100 kg, 
then the LD50 would likely be around 4.2 grams.   You could reach this 
level by taking approximately 90,000 400 UI pills at once, but most 
likely you would succumb to the huge amount of oil in 90,000 or the 
stomach would burst from the volume of these pills first.


Marshall

bodhisattva wrote:
I'm not mixing up the D's, look at the MHDS yourself, it's for D3.  D3 
is a STRONG acidic, oxidising agent. It's D3 that makes the most 
effective Rat Poison, along with ZyclonB and Fluoride of course.


http://ull.chemistry.uakron.edu/erd/Chemicals/8000/7235.html
Chronic ingestion may cause effects similar to those of acute 
ingestion. Ingestion May be fatal if swallowed. May cause irritation 
of the digestive tract. *May cause kidney damage*. May cause *cardiac 
disturbances*. *Ingestion may lead to mental retardation*.

Hazard class 6.1


Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

Yes but some articles have said more or less the same of
 colloidal silver.  Are you sure you are not mixing up your D's--because I
 believe D2 is harder to assimilate. dee

On 21 Apr 2010, at 02:52, bodhisattva wrote:

  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodenticide
Remember, Fluoride, ZyclonB and VitaminD are potent rodent killers, and as a
 consequence, the first two were used to great effect to gas humans in mass
 quantities. Look at the other fun Rodenticides, and discover where those are
 added to the things in your life. Some contrail tests claim they always
 find a lot of barium, which of course is another rat poison.  Seems to be a
 trend these days, you know?

http://ull.chemistr y.uakron. edu/erd/Chemical s/8000/7235. html
VITAMIN D - EC Classvery toxic
RTECS class Reproductive Effector; Human Data
 Poison_Class2
Exposure effects 




  





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Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[bodhisattva]

I'm not mixing up the D's, look at the MHDS yourself, it's for D3.  D3 
is a STRONG acidic, oxidising agent. It's D3 that makes the most 
effective Rat Poison, along with ZyclonB and Fluoride of course.


http://ull.chemistry.uakron.edu/erd/Chemicals/8000/7235.html
Chronic ingestion may cause effects similar to those of acute ingestion. 
Ingestion May be fatal if swallowed. May cause irritation of the 
digestive tract. *May cause kidney damage*. May cause *cardiac 
disturbances*. *Ingestion may lead to mental retardation*.


Hazard class 6.1



Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

Yes but some articles have said more or less the same of colloidal silver.  Are 
you sure you are not mixing up your D's--because I believe D2 is harder to 
assimilate. dee

On 21 Apr 2010, at 02:52, bodhisattva wrote:

  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodenticide
Remember, Fluoride, ZyclonB and VitaminD are potent rodent killers, and as a 
consequence, the first two were used to great effect to gas humans in mass 
quantities. Look at the other fun Rodenticides, and discover where those are 
added to the things in your life. Some contrail tests claim they always find a 
lot of barium, which of course is another rat poison.  Seems to be a trend 
these days, you know?

http://ull.chemistr y.uakron. edu/erd/Chemical s/8000/7235. html
VITAMIN D - EC Classvery toxic
RTECS class Reproductive Effector; Human Data
 Poison_Class2
Exposure effects 




  

Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[needling around]

Hi Dee,
That is my understanding also.  D3 is the one to take.  Years ago D2 was 
given and had deleterious effects.

PT


- Original Message - 
From: "Dorothy Fitzpatrick" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)


Yes but some articles have said more or less the same of colloidal silver. 
Are you sure you are not mixing up your D's--because I believe D2 is harder 
to assimilate. dee


On 21 Apr 2010, at 02:52, bodhisattva wrote:




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodenticide
Remember, Fluoride, ZyclonB and VitaminD are potent rodent killers, and as 
a consequence, the first two were used to great effect to gas humans in 
mass quantities. Look at the other fun Rodenticides, and discover where 
those are added to the things in your life. Some contrail tests claim they 
always find a lot of barium, which of course is another rat poison.  Seems 
to be a trend these days, you know?


http://ull.chemistr y.uakron. edu/erd/Chemical s/8000/7235. html
VITAMIN D - EC Classvery toxic
RTECS class Reproductive Effector; Human Data
 Poison_Class2
Exposure effects Chronic ingestion may cause effects similar to those 
of acute ingestion.  IngestionMay be fatal if swallowed. May cause 
irritation of the digestive tract. May cause kidney damage. May cause 
cardiac disturbances. Ingestion may lead to mental retardation.

Hazard class 6.1




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Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Yes but some articles have said more or less the same of colloidal silver.  Are 
you sure you are not mixing up your D's--because I believe D2 is harder to 
assimilate. dee

On 21 Apr 2010, at 02:52, bodhisattva wrote:

> 
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodenticide
> Remember, Fluoride, ZyclonB and VitaminD are potent rodent killers, and as a 
> consequence, the first two were used to great effect to gas humans in mass 
> quantities. Look at the other fun Rodenticides, and discover where those are 
> added to the things in your life. Some contrail tests claim they always find 
> a lot of barium, which of course is another rat poison.  Seems to be a trend 
> these days, you know?
> 
> http://ull.chemistr y.uakron. edu/erd/Chemical s/8000/7235. html
> VITAMIN D - EC Classvery toxic
> RTECS class Reproductive Effector; Human Data
>  Poison_Class2
> Exposure effects Chronic ingestion may cause effects similar to those of 
> acute ingestion.  IngestionMay be fatal if swallowed. May cause 
> irritation of the digestive tract. May cause kidney damage. May cause cardiac 
> disturbances. Ingestion may lead to mental retardation. 
> Hazard class 6.1
> 


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Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[bodhisattva]

Interestingly, this was the first winter I elected to take no D, and it 
was my healthiest on record.  Admittedly, I haven't  been to the doctor 
in 5-6 years, and I am generally very healthy, but I felt even better 
this winter without the added synthetic D.


I digress,  D is a very effective poison for rodents, the same rodents 
used in pre-human drug trials. This is indisputable, and is established 
fact. I don't believe the type of D the sun provides is the same as 
synthetic, there is a synergy in nature that has evaded science, this is 
why willow bark cures headaches without side effects, but Aspirin cures 
headaches and rots your stomach. It's sort of a harmonious thing in how 
it works naturally that the lab can't duplicate properly. Because 
someone dumps synthetic D into their body doesn't mean it is doing 
good.  Vitamin K is an antidote to D poisoning, and if you get enough K, 
you are really just detoxing yourself from D overload. Similar to how if 
you ingest a lot of fluoride, you die, but if you take Calcium, the 
Calcium acts as a Fluoride antidote, in nature, fluoride is in the form 
of "CalciumFlouride", it's chemical runoff without the calcium that's 
dumped into our water supplies.


Mercury is toxic, but a human can ingest quite a lot of it before 
showing any effect. Some people have 5,000+mg's mercury in their mouth 
that gives off small puffs of it everyday for decades and have no 
outward signs of problems. It doesn't mean it is good for them, you 
know?  The MHDS for D is very clear, it's toxic, and this MHDS is 
written for humans in the industries that will be around D, not for 
rodents. (and it took a lot of time for me to find this MHDS)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodenticide
Remember, Fluoride, ZyclonB and VitaminD are potent rodent killers, and 
as a consequence, the first two were used to great effect to gas humans 
in mass quantities. Look at the other fun Rodenticides, and discover 
where those are added to the things in your life. Some contrail tests 
claim they always find a lot of barium, which of course is another rat 
poison.  Seems to be a trend these days, you know?


http://ull.chemistr y.uakron. edu/erd/Chemical s/8000/7235. html 
<http://ull.chemistry.uakron.edu/erd/Chemicals/8000/7235.html>

*VITAMIN D - EC Classvery toxic
RTECS class _Reproductive Effector_; Human Data
Poison_Class2*
Exposure effects Chronic ingestion may cause effects similar to 
those of acute ingestion.  IngestionMay be fatal if swallowed. May 
cause irritation of the digestive tract. *May cause kidney damage*. *May 
cause cardiac disturbances*. *Ingestion may lead to mental retardation*.

Hazard class 6.1

Now what is important to consider, aging is a matter of 
hypercalcification.  That is, most age related diseases are "Calcium" 
overload, and premature aging has sometimes been attributed to 
hypercalcification.  That's artery plaque, arthritis, whatever, it's all 
the same here.  What causes hypercalcification over a very long period 
of time?  Synthetic Vitamin D and Calcium overload. I am not telling 
people to not get D, I am telling people they might want to not ingest 
rat poison.  Sunlight gives you what you need, go plant a garden, take a 
walk,  and cultivate your vitamins in your skin..  Sardines, per can, 
offer up to 1,500UI of bio-ready natural D, have a can of Sardines!  
This garbage they are trying to get us to ingest is just that, garbage.


Magnesium is vastly more important than D in my opinion, if you take 
anything, take some extra Magnesium Citrate. Magnesium is short in 
70-90% of Americans, and causes a huge amount of chronic and acute 
conditions.  But you won't hear that on the mainstread news, they're too 
busy selling rat poison to Americans.  The very popular "Beta Blocker" 
(Lopressor, etc) drugs being pushed on people are nothing more than 
Magnesium uptake inhibitors, that is, they keep you from using too much 
magnesium so you don't get the effects of magnesium deficiency. Imagine 
that, a pill to cover up a nutritional deficiency! It's friggen 
brilliant! (if you are evil)


http://www.amazon.com/Magnesium-Factor-Mildred-Seelig/dp/1583331565/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1271814405&sr=8-1
How one simple nutrient can prevent, treat, and help to reverse high 
blood pressure, heart disease, stroke, diabetes, and other chronic 
conditions.


Bob Banever wrote:

bodhisattva,

   Vitamin D3 is not toxic at any level below 10,000IU's per day 
even long term.  In fact your body will produce 14,000IU's per day 
from the sun if you allow it to.  I have taken 6600IU's per day for 
two years now (and I do get alot of sun as well) with no side effects 
whatsoever... except that I have been completely free of colds or the 
flu.  I used to get 3 - 4 colds a year, even with the use of CS.


  

Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Bob Banever]

bodhisattva,

   Vitamin D3 is not toxic at any level below 10,000IU's per day even 
long term.  In fact your body will produce 14,000IU's per day from the sun 
if you allow it to.  I have taken 6600IU's per day for two years now (and I 
do get alot of sun as well) with no side effects whatsoever... except that I 
have been completely free of colds or the flu.  I used to get 3 - 4 colds a 
year, even with the use of CS.


 Bob
- Original Message - 
From: "bodhisattva" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)


1 drop of 100% pure eucalyptus oil, worked very well for me. Basically, 
Neti-Pot with some real salt (Himalayan), then a drop of Eucalyptus 
Essential Oil, and you are good to go.  Give it a try.


Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC wrote:

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE


What can I put in CS to help it penetrate The nasal passage, using CS in
nasal spray bottle.
Looking for way to battle numerous sinus infections.
Looking for some thing simple.
How about a drop or 2 of DMSO or Peroxide.

Bob


Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE






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Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[bodhisattva]

1 drop of 100% pure eucalyptus oil, worked very well for me. Basically, 
Neti-Pot with some real salt (Himalayan), then a drop of Eucalyptus 
Essential Oil, and you are good to go.  Give it a try.


Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC wrote:

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE


What can I put in CS to help it penetrate The nasal passage, using CS in
nasal spray bottle.
Looking for way to battle numerous sinus infections.
Looking for some thing simple.
How about a drop or 2 of DMSO or Peroxide.

Bob


Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE


  



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Re: CS>Nasal spray

[Rowena]

Old Posts - not sure of year - "Properties" says April 2009 but I'm not 
sure I believe it.  Certainly Daddybob's experience is way older than 
that - probably closer to the time I joined the list, some 7 years ago 
perhaps.  - Ah, six years - I see DB says 2004.

Rowena

NASAL SPRAY  (CS Posts)



Add  one teaspoon xylitol to 8 ounces of  Cs and stir till dissolved. 
You may add a  few drops or 1/5 teaspoon DMSO or MSM if available-makes 
it a little more effective.  Put the solution in an old nasal spray 
bottle or in a Neti cup for usage-or just lie on your back and use a dropper




I have been using this formula plus 4 drops Grapefruit Seed Extract, 
plus a t of H2O2 since November of 2003 in the eyedropper plus personal 
humidifier.  It helped but did not clear up my sinus infection.  After 
reading JOH message of increasing DMSO to 15%, I increased DMSO to 20%.  
It burned but some blockage let go with 3 eyedroppers full of formula in 
each nostril and the formula went down my throat.  It was not doing that 
before.  Now I use only one dropper full for each 3 minute head over bed 
and then face down over edge of the bed.  I added more CS to get the 
DMSO back down to 15%.  I also have Asthma and a Hiatal Hernia which I 
am hoping will get better if I can clear up my sinus infection.


Brickey

Dick said,
> Regarding the 35% H2O2, did you work up to 5 drops or just start out 
there, and did you increase the amount to 20 or 25 drops as some 
suggest, or always stay at 5? Also, did you always take it on an empty 
stomach? Sometimes it will make you nauseous if taken with food in your 
stomach, I understand.


  My response: 5 drops in a glass of water rarely causes a feeling of 
nausea for me whether taken on an empty stomach or not. More than that 
can. One woman reported working up  to 25 drops 3Xday (shudder), which 
erased her severe Candida symptoms. She said that 10 drops per day keeps 
the symptoms away.  I could never do more than 10 drops in one glass of 
water without feeling nauseated. But I can drink 5 drops in water 
several times per day without any  nausea. I would expect 10 drops or 
more to be more  effective, but I am not willing to feel nauseated.


Someone said: > I mixed a fresh batch of 2 oz. CS and 1/4 teaspoon of 
Xylitol


  Does Xylitol only come in one form? Liquid? Powder? Only one strength 
or potency? That would be an important consideration if using "1/4 
teaspoon". Stevia comes in a variety of forms (powder, liquid, herbal), 
so 1/4 tsp would only apply to a particular form. Is the same true of 
Xylitol?


From: daddybob52954 Subject: CS & Xylitol vs. Sinus Infection  I've got 
a story to tell about CS & Xylitol nasal spray. It's one of the most 
interesting things I have seen happen in such a short time. I'm posting 
this to several groups and forums to which I subscribe. Somebody will 
need this. I've not had a full blown cold or flu for about 3 years. In 
that time I have successfully avoided them usually with CS, Bragg's 
Vinegar, and Four Thieves Vinegar made with Bragg's, and other things as 
well. Those that I haven't avoided altogether by those methods, I have 
successfully killed off quickly with Beck Blood Electrification (BE). 
This winter I have headed off the flu for a week, then finally killed it 
with BE, and had a herx the next day. About 3 weeks ago I killed off a 
little cold a couple of days after I caught it with only a few sniffles. 
It has been a cold, wet 10 weeks here since the first of the year, with 
lots of colds and flu passing through. The weather has worked hard on my 
livelihood and my attitude, and I have gotten slack about all my 
precautions. Several days ago I knew I was exposed to a nasty cold. I 
knew to get started with all my precautions but I just plain didn't do 
it. By Friday 3-5-04 I was getting a nasty scratchy throat. Whatever 
this crud is, it starts that way instead of in the roof of my mouth like 
usual. I used my Walgreen's Personal Ultrasonic Humidifier with CS to 
fix the closing-in-feeling in my throat. The next day, Saturday, it 
migrated to my sinuses. It put me on the couch by Sat. night and all day 
Sunday 3-7. I did all my usual stuff religiously. By Monday I was 
ambulatory but not well. Tuesday 3-9 I had most of my strength back. It 
was over late that day. BUT! I couldn't stay out of the weather because 
of the demands of work, and a sinus infection began to form. I haven't 
had one in over 4 years. I fought it first with a nasal spray of 
CS/MSM/H2O2/Xylitol but it wasn't doing too much. I then fought it with 
nasal spray of 2 oz. CS & 1/3 dropper of DMSO. That helped ! a lot and 
nearly knocked it out, until the weather got colder and work demanded 
that I stay outside. After being out in cold winds Fri. & Sat., my left 
sinus was impacted and I sounded like a foghorn. My left upper teeth 
were all starting to ache around my root canals. It was getting bad. I 
knew by Sat. afternoon that I had to try some

Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Tony Moody]

On 19 Apr 2010 at 11:33, Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA  wrote about :
Subject : CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

> Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
> Caveats: NONE
> 
> What can I put in CS to help it penetrate
> The nasal passage, using CS in nasal spray bottle.
> Looking for way to battle numerous sinus infections.
> Looking for some thing simple.
> How about a drop or 2 of DMSO or Peroxide.
> 
> Bob
> Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
> Caveats: NONE

Hi Bob, 
I use ascorbic acid powder and bicarbonate of soda ( ratio 1:2 makes it 
tastes salty but a bit alkaline ) and then use CS to make it into a 
solution.  about 1/4 teapoon of the dry mix to a cupful of water (200 to 
250 ml). 
I warm the cup with boiling water, and throw that out;  ( you could nuke 
the solution I suppose) 
Fill cup with the CS and stir in the VitC and Bicarb and wait for the 
foaming to finish. 
I then use the warm CS, VitC and Bicarb solution to do sinus flushes. It 
should be quite comfortable ( If its too cold or too strong then it will 
be uncomfortable ).
I will stay and do the entire cup; flushing and one blowing,  after the 
other until the cupful is done. 
I think the many flushes is part of the secret.  

I try to do this once a week anyway. 
If there is dust or mould exposure I try to remember to do it before 
going to sleep. 

Simple and it works very well if I do it.

OK,
Tony


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CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC]

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
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What can I put in CS to help it penetrate The nasal passage, using CS in
nasal spray bottle.
Looking for way to battle numerous sinus infections.
Looking for some thing simple.
How about a drop or 2 of DMSO or Peroxide.

Bob


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Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Dan Nave]

Test your body pH... (and then normalize it)

Dan

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Ronald Lowry  wrote:
> Hey kids.neti pots are greatbut water pick makes a nasal irrigater
> that fits on the pic...CS in the reservoir and you can pump up to a qt
> (I believe) of liquid through. I got one when I had sinus surgery, 15 yrs
> ago.any time I feel a sinus infection coming on.or actually I can
> smell them now..saline solution and clean every thing out..should
> work for CS toobut non saline hurts the tender sinus area's .so I
> would mix with saline just to be safe.sometimes technology is good for
> us.
>
> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC
>  wrote:
>>
>> Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
>> Caveats: NONE
>>
>> What can I put in CS to help it penetrate
>> The nasal passage, using CS in nasal spray bottle.
>> Looking for way to battle numerous sinus infections.
>> Looking for some thing simple.
>> How about a drop or 2 of DMSO or Peroxide.
>>
>> Bob
>> Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
>> Caveats: NONE
>>
>>
>
>


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Re: CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Ronald Lowry]

Hey kids.neti pots are greatbut water pick makes a nasal irrigater
that fits on the pic...CS in the reservoir and you can pump up to a qt
(I believe) of liquid through. I got one when I had sinus surgery, 15 yrs
ago.any time I feel a sinus infection coming on.or actually I can
smell them now..saline solution and clean every thing out..should
work for CS toobut non saline hurts the tender sinus area's .so I
would mix with saline just to be safe.sometimes technology is good for
us.

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC <
robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil> wrote:

> Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
> Caveats: NONE
>
> What can I put in CS to help it penetrate
> The nasal passage, using CS in nasal spray bottle.
> Looking for way to battle numerous sinus infections.
> Looking for some thing simple.
> How about a drop or 2 of DMSO or Peroxide.
>
> Bob
> Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
> Caveats: NONE
>
>
>

CS>Nasal spray (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC]

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

What can I put in CS to help it penetrate
The nasal passage, using CS in nasal spray bottle.
Looking for way to battle numerous sinus infections.
Looking for some thing simple.
How about a drop or 2 of DMSO or Peroxide.

Bob
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE




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Re: CS>nasal spray bottles

[Saralou]

Just buy some saline spray and keep adding EIS to it.  By the time you 
pay shipping on a nasal spray bottle you'll have exceeded the cost of 
buying the spray just for the bottle.


However,  I did search out pump nasal spray bottles a couple of 
christmases ago when I gave away EIS.  Didn't buy them but perhaps the 
links still work.  Did you actually do a search yet?



www.herbalremedies.com/nasal-spray.html
www.ezsalesworld.com/servlet/the-97/Five-Spray-Bottles-with/Detail
cgi.ebay.com/Five-Spray-Bottles-with-pump-plastic-nasal-empty_W0QQitemZ350211615729QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item518a3d2bf1&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14
www.medidose.com/nasal-spray-bottles.aspx
www.thefind.com/beauty/info-1_2-oz-amber-glass-bottle


Where do you buy empty nasal spray bottles to use?  I've looked 
several places and no luck so far.  I'd druther not buy one with a 
product it in and throw out the product, but if I have to...


Alan





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Re: CS>nasal spray bottles

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I got mine at super drug but some plastic bottle companies do them as  
well, like Naturally Thinking.  dee


On 12 Sep 2009, at 13:43, Alan Jones wrote:

Where do you buy empty nasal spray bottles to use?  I've looked  
several places and no luck so far.  I'd druther not buy one with a  
product it in and throw out the product, but if I have to...


Alan

Fw: CS>nasal spray bottles

[Deborah Gerard]

I have found nasal sprays at the dollar store with screw on tops...can't get 
cheaper than that,
deb

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From: Alan Jones 
Subject: CS>nasal spray bottles
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, September 12, 2009, 8:43 AM


Where do you buy empty nasal spray bottles to use?  I've looked several places 
and no luck so far.  I'd druther not buy one with a product it in and throw out 
the product, but if I have to...

Alan


On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Melly Bag  wrote:

Try oregano oil(3 drops three times a day)  and EIS as  nasal spray and orally 
(sublingual 1 minute).  Stops asthma and allergy attacks for  me instantly.

Melly

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CS>nasal spray bottles

[Alan Jones]

Where do you buy empty nasal spray bottles to use?  I've looked several
places and no luck so far.  I'd druther not buy one with a product it in and
throw out the product, but if I have to...

Alan

On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Melly Bag  wrote:

> Try oregano oil(3 drops three times a day)  and EIS as  nasal spray and
> orally (sublingual 1 minute).  Stops asthma and allergy attacks for  me
> instantly.
>
> Melly
>

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Re: CS>CS:? Nasal spray formula

[sol]

My understanding is that peroxide converts the DMSO into MSM. So adding 
peroxide = losing the transport function of the DMSO. I'd leave the 
peroxide out myself. I'm not saying your formula is ineffective, 
obviously it is effective, but you might as well leave out the DMSO and 
add more MSM if you are adding peroxide. Be a good experiment?


sol

Harold MacDonald wrote:

In the past I posted my mix re above.
I use approx.[amounts can vary,still effective] 2 oz of EIS, add 1 tspn 
MSM,1 tspn Xylitol,1/4 tspn DMSO,4 drops of H2O2[hydrogen peroxide].

Shake well and use a nasal sprayer.
For extreme cases,lie on your back on a bed with head hanging over the 
edge.Spray up to ten pumps or use an eye dropper to instill a large 
amount.Then roll head around to ensure it gets into all sinus 
cavities.There will possibly be some stinging,but will not last long.

Hope this helps you as much as it has me.



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CS>CS:? Nasal spray formula

[Harold MacDonald]

In the past I posted my mix re above.
I use approx.[amounts can vary,still effective] 2 oz of EIS, add 1 tspn 
MSM,1 tspn Xylitol,1/4 tspn DMSO,4 drops of H2O2[hydrogen peroxide].

Shake well and use a nasal sprayer.
For extreme cases,lie on your back on a bed with head hanging over the 
edge.Spray up to ten pumps or use an eye dropper to instill a large 
amount.Then roll head around to ensure it gets into all sinus cavities.There 
will possibly be some stinging,but will not last long.

Hope this helps you as much as it has me.


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CS>Nasal Spray Bottles Available 2 oz

[Ian Roe]

(Please forgive the reposting of this, the subject line was blank the first 
time. Unable to attach a photo the second time but they are white opaque 
oval nasal spray bottles with screw cap cover and they mist when squeezed 
into the nasal passage.)


"Nasal Spray squeeze bottles 2 ounce available."

I have received the kind permission of Mike Devour to post this on the

silver list.

I am a long standing fan of Xylitol and CS for nasal spray application

however nasal spray bottles seem to go at a premium and are hard to

obtain for the following reason. Normally one has to purchase 25000 of

these at a time from a bottle supplier. I was recently able to

purchase 'only' 1900 two ounce oval nasal spray bottles. I require a few

hundred for myself and a few friends. I am receiving shipment of these

bottles around April 20. 800 are already spoken for. I will have

about 700 left over to store almost indefinately in my small office or

to make available for others.

If you have an interest in obtaining a number of these bottles @ 80cents
apiece USD plus shipping, please

contact me privately at

ian...@rogers.com

and not through the silver list address .

I attached a JPG file for a picture of this item as I am unable to

insert it into a text message for you to see.

Sincerely Yours

Ian Roe


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RE: CS>Nasal spray plastic bottles for sale?

[Tel Tofflemire]

Richard, & list.
I get mine from PC Network PX INC.  Call Beckey @ 1-800-453-7516-ext-2  This
is much easier than trying to find them on her web-page...they are the
metered pump, fogger type, my favorite.$1.75 each Plus S & H.   Her
web-site is www.msm-msm.com

Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.

-Original Message-
From: Richard Harris [mailto:yr...@cfl.rr.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 7:11 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Richard Harris
Subject: CS>Nasal spray plastic bottles for sale?

A few months ago, someone announced that they had a supply of 50 or 60 cc.
nasal spray plastic bottles for sale--My files disappeared and I Iost the
kind person's name  & address. If they are still available, I would
appreciate ordering info.

Sincerely,
Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist

-Original Message-
From: Pavel Hochmut [mailto:ho...@cbox.cz]
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 8:53 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2004 #476


Hi,
Can somebody direct me to some scientific analysis about CS interference to
fungus & fungi?
Many thanks
Pavel H.




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CS>Nasal spray plastic bottles for sale?

[Richard Harris]

A few months ago, someone announced that they had a supply of 50 or 60 cc.
nasal spray plastic bottles for sale--My files disappeared and I Iost the
kind person's name  & address. If they are still available, I would
appreciate ordering info.

Sincerely,
Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist

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From: Pavel Hochmut [mailto:ho...@cbox.cz]
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 8:53 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Re: silver-digest Digest V2004 #476


Hi,
Can somebody direct me to some scientific analysis about CS interference to
fungus & fungi?
Many thanks
Pavel H.




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CS>nasal spray bottles - bob medwith

[Sandy . Green]

Hi Bob,  
 
I did respond to you twice.  Never heard back from you.
 
 
moldovansa...@yahoo.com
 
Sandy
 
 


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CS>Nasal spray bottles

[Medwith, Robert]

I never heard any thing more about buying them
 
 Bob

Re: CS>nasal spray (mist) bottles

[Marcela Weiland]

I would like to buy a few too, please let me know how I can order them.

thanks



From: "Lynda Khula" 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: 
Subject: Re: CS>nasal spray (mist) bottles
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 14:53:53 -0500

Messagehi I would like ten
please let me know how do I order
thanks Lynda

- Original Message -
  From: Medwith, Robert
  To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com'
  Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 2:06 PM
  Subject: RE: CS>nasal spray (mist) bottles


  How do we Order, I would like 15.
  How much would shiping be on 15

  Bob
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From: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com 
[mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com] On Behalf Of Sandy . Green

Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 1:40 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
    Subject: CS>nasal spray (mist) bottles


Hi everyone,

We still have some nasal spray bottles available.  These are 4 
component plastic bottles, excellent for CS and whatever you need to add. 
We were very lucky to find someone who is connected with  a pharmaceutical 
company. He has softened his requirements and we can now supply in 
quantities of less than 25 minimum.  They cost .75 each + shipping.


Sandy



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Re: CS>nasal spray (mist) bottles

[Lynda Khula]

Messagehi I would like ten
please let me know how do I order
thanks Lynda

- Original Message - 
  From: Medwith, Robert 
  To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com' 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 2:06 PM
  Subject: RE: CS>nasal spray (mist) bottles


  How do we Order, I would like 15.
  How much would shiping be on 15

  Bob
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From: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com 
[mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com] On Behalf Of Sandy . Green
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 1:40 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
    Subject: CS>nasal spray (mist) bottles


Hi everyone,

We still have some nasal spray bottles available.  These are 4 component 
plastic bottles, excellent for CS and whatever you need to add. We were very 
lucky to find someone who is connected with  a pharmaceutical company. He has 
softened his requirements and we can now supply in quantities of less than 25 
minimum.  They cost .75 each + shipping.  

Sandy



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[Medwith, Robert]

How do we Order, I would like 15.
How much would shiping be on 15
 
Bob

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On Behalf Of Sandy . Green
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 1:40 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>nasal spray (mist) bottles


Hi everyone,
 
We still have some nasal spray bottles available.  These are 4 component
plastic bottles, excellent for CS and whatever you need to add. We were very
lucky to find someone who is connected with  a pharmaceutical company. He
has softened his requirements and we can now supply in quantities of less
than 25 minimum.  They cost .75 each + shipping.  
 
Sandy



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CS>nasal spray (mist) bottles

[Sandy . Green]

Hi everyone,
 
We still have some nasal spray bottles available.  These are 4 component 
plastic bottles, excellent for CS and whatever you need to add. We were very 
lucky to find someone who is connected with  a pharmaceutical company. He has 
softened his requirements and we can now supply in quantities of less than 25 
minimum.  They cost .75 each + shipping.  
 
Sandy


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RE: CS>Nasal Spray bottles - correction

[TJ Garland]

More better!!  Can you send me one to look at and test.  I will order 
hundreds if it works. I have copywrited my XYLLERGY nasal spray. Please be 
aware.  TJ Garland  120 Outer  Drive. Oak Ridge, Tn  37830




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From: "Sandy . Green" 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Nasal Spray bottles - correction
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 09:32:20 -0800 (PST)

Sorry - they are 50 ml not 30 ml.

Sandy


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RE: CS>nasal spray bottles

[TJ Garland]

Thank Sandy  but I need the 60 ml. ones



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From: "Sandy . Green" 
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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>nasal spray  bottles
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 09:29:34 -0800 (PST)

Hi

I presently have available -White  Nasal Spray Bottles, 30ml; 4 components 
= squeeze bottle, inner tube, nose plug, cap.


Minimum order  is 25 units.  Cost is .75 each + shipping costs.

Please email me privately regarding information.


Have a great day!

Sandy




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[Sandy . Green]

Sorry - they are 50 ml not 30 ml.
 
Sandy


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CS>nasal spray bottles

[Sandy . Green]

Hi
 
I presently have available -White  Nasal Spray Bottles, 30ml; 4 components = 
squeeze bottle, inner tube, nose plug, cap.  
 
Minimum order  is 25 units.  Cost is .75 each + shipping costs.
 
Please email me privately regarding information.
 
 
Have a great day!
 
Sandy
 
 


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Re: CS>nasal spray (mist) bottles

[Nancy DeLise]

If y ou fill the nasal spray bottle only half full, you will get a mist.
Nancy
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sandy . Green 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 10:27 AM
  Subject: CS>nasal spray (mist) bottles


  I have been hunting for nasal spray bottles here in Toronto and found out 
that there is a real difference between a nasal spray bottle and a nasal mist 
bottle.  I found what is called a nasal spray bottle, round, plastic and 
squeeze type.  However, it produces a stream instead of mist.  I was informed 
that what I should be looking for is a nasal mist bottle. Hope this helps.

  Sandy


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Re: CS>nasal spray (mist)(Jim)

[Tel Tofflemire]

  Jim call her at  : Toll Free: 800-453-7516 ext. 2 , their web 
site is hard to get around in.  It's a home business.  I paid $3.oo each 
for one dozen...Plus S & H  no sales tax out of AZ.

Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ



Jim Meissner wrote:


Dear Tel:

Help?  I could not find spray bottles listed.  How much are they and where
can I find them?

- Original Message - 
From: "Tel Tofflemire" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 12:54 AM
Subject: Re: CS>nasal spray (mist) bottles


 


You can find nasal mist bottles here 2oz size   http://www.msm-msm.com/
Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.

Sandy . Green wrote:

   


I have been hunting for nasal spray bottles here in Toronto and found
out that there is a real difference between a nasal spray bottle and a
nasal mist bottle.  I found what is called a nasal spray bottle,
round, plastic and squeeze type.  However, it produces a stream
instead of mist.  I was informed that what I should be looking for is
a nasal mist bottle. Hope this helps.

Sandy

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Re: CS>nasal spray (mist) bottles

[Jim Meissner]

Dear Tel:

Help?  I could not find spray bottles listed.  How much are they and where
can I find them?

- Original Message - 
From: "Tel Tofflemire" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2003 12:54 AM
Subject: Re: CS>nasal spray (mist) bottles


> You can find nasal mist bottles here 2oz size   http://www.msm-msm.com/
> Tel Tofflemire
> Dewey, AZ.
>
> Sandy . Green wrote:
>
> > I have been hunting for nasal spray bottles here in Toronto and found
> > out that there is a real difference between a nasal spray bottle and a
> > nasal mist bottle.  I found what is called a nasal spray bottle,
> > round, plastic and squeeze type.  However, it produces a stream
> > instead of mist.  I was informed that what I should be looking for is
> > a nasal mist bottle. Hope this helps.
> >
> > Sandy
> > 
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Re: CS>nasal spray (mist) bottles

[Tel Tofflemire]

You can find nasal mist bottles here 2oz size   http://www.msm-msm.com/
Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.

Sandy . Green wrote:

I have been hunting for nasal spray bottles here in Toronto and found 
out that there is a real difference between a nasal spray bottle and a 
nasal mist bottle.  I found what is called a nasal spray bottle, 
round, plastic and squeeze type.  However, it produces a stream 
instead of mist.  I was informed that what I should be looking for is 
a nasal mist bottle. Hope this helps.
 
Sandy


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CS>nasal spray (mist) bottles

[Sandy . Green]

I have been hunting for nasal spray bottles here in Toronto and found out that 
there is a real difference between a nasal spray bottle and a nasal mist 
bottle.  I found what is called a nasal spray bottle, round, plastic and 
squeeze type.  However, it produces a stream instead of mist.  I was informed 
that what I should be looking for is a nasal mist bottle. Hope this helps.
 
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RE: CS>Nasal Spray Bottles

[TJ Garland]

Jim- I am trying to keep the price as low as possible to my customers. 
Metered spray bottles are nice --but they are at least twice as expensive  
and they break easier and will not last through 4 or 5 refills.




TJ Garland, CMO supplier
  there are no incurable illnesses-only incurable people.






From: "Jim Wright \(Lists\)" 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: 
Subject: RE: CS>Nasal Spray Bottles
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 22:34:55 -0600

TJ,

I never used any of these vendors. I made a search and placed the
links as a service to those who wanted to investigate further.
Naturally I assume that anyone using any vendor will choose to do
further inquiry before purchasing. Personally, I have used metered
nasal bottles with CS myself with good results. I suppose it is a
matter of preference and choice in the end.

Jim W.

-Original Message-
From: TJ Garland [mailto:goldenok...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 7:57 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Nasal Spray Bottles

Thanks. Jim.  I made the mistake of believing Apothecary Products
when they
told me they had 60 ml. SQUEEZE bottles. They sent me 35 ml. pumps
and it
took me 75 days to get my money back- and they would not reimburse me
for
the return freight.  I had to threaten to sue them.They are
apparently a
home based business with no money and a total lack of business
acumen. Those
in the last link are metered pumps and regular pumps.  Seems everyone
just
skips over the words "nasal squeeze".
  Ridiculous prices for a 20 th ounce of plastic.



TJ Garland, CMO supplier
   there are no incurable illnesses-only incurable people.





>From: "Jim Wright \(Lists\)" 
>Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>To: "CS List" 
>Subject: CS>Nasal Spray Bottles
>Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:29:17 -0600
>
>Here are a few web sites for nasal spray bottles.
>
><http://www.apothecaryproducts.com/catalogue/grouping.asp?CatID=43&G
r
>oupID=452>
>
><http://www.apothecaryproducts.com/catalogue/grouping.asp?CatID=43&G
r
>oupID=453>
>
><http://www.1-800-medical.com/nasal/nasal.htm#order>
>
>Watch for broken links and be sure that all the information on each
>link is between the
>"<" and the ">" on each one.
>
>Jim W.
>
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Re: CS>Nasal Spray Bottles

[Ode Coyote]

 I found 2 oz amber glass metered pumps..very nice...but  $6 each per case
from pharamacy supply house.
 And it took some talking to get them to send to other than a registered
pharm.
 I can get the same bottles for a lot less in bulk.  Makes the pumps very
expensive, ey?

Ode

At 08:56 PM 11/25/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>Thanks. Jim.  I made the mistake of believing Apothecary Products when they 
>told me they had 60 ml. SQUEEZE bottles. They sent me 35 ml. pumps and it 
>took me 75 days to get my money back- and they would not reimburse me for 
>the return freight.  I had to threaten to sue them.They are apparently a 
>home based business with no money and a total lack of business acumen. Those 
>in the last link are metered pumps and regular pumps.  Seems everyone just 
>skips over the words "nasal squeeze".
>  Ridiculous prices for a 20 th ounce of plastic.
>
>
>
>TJ Garland, CMO supplier
>   there are no incurable illnesses-only incurable people.
>
>
>
>
>
>>From: "Jim Wright \(Lists\)" 
>>Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>>To: "CS List" 
>>Subject: CS>Nasal Spray Bottles
>>Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:29:17 -0600
>>
>>Here are a few web sites for nasal spray bottles.
>>
>><http://www.apothecaryproducts.com/catalogue/grouping.asp?CatID=43&Gr
>>oupID=452>
>>
>><http://www.apothecaryproducts.com/catalogue/grouping.asp?CatID=43&Gr
>>oupID=453>
>>
>><http://www.1-800-medical.com/nasal/nasal.htm#order>
>>
>>Watch for broken links and be sure that all the information on each
>>link is between the
>>"<" and the ">" on each one.
>>
>>Jim W.
>>
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CS>Nasal spray bottles

[Medwith, Robert]

 I just bought 5 last week at a Dollar store (USA Mi) I just empty them and
fill with CS
 
  Bob

RE: CS>Nasal Spray Bottles

[Jim Wright (Lists)]

TJ,

I never used any of these vendors. I made a search and placed the
links as a service to those who wanted to investigate further.
Naturally I assume that anyone using any vendor will choose to do
further inquiry before purchasing. Personally, I have used metered
nasal bottles with CS myself with good results. I suppose it is a
matter of preference and choice in the end.

Jim W.

-Original Message-
From: TJ Garland [mailto:goldenok...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 7:57 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Nasal Spray Bottles

Thanks. Jim.  I made the mistake of believing Apothecary Products
when they
told me they had 60 ml. SQUEEZE bottles. They sent me 35 ml. pumps
and it
took me 75 days to get my money back- and they would not reimburse me
for
the return freight.  I had to threaten to sue them.They are
apparently a
home based business with no money and a total lack of business
acumen. Those
in the last link are metered pumps and regular pumps.  Seems everyone
just
skips over the words "nasal squeeze".
  Ridiculous prices for a 20 th ounce of plastic.



TJ Garland, CMO supplier
   there are no incurable illnesses-only incurable people.





>From: "Jim Wright \(Lists\)" 
>Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>To: "CS List" 
>Subject: CS>Nasal Spray Bottles
>Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:29:17 -0600
>
>Here are a few web sites for nasal spray bottles.
>
><http://www.apothecaryproducts.com/catalogue/grouping.asp?CatID=43&G
r
>oupID=452>
>
><http://www.apothecaryproducts.com/catalogue/grouping.asp?CatID=43&G
r
>oupID=453>
>
><http://www.1-800-medical.com/nasal/nasal.htm#order>
>
>Watch for broken links and be sure that all the information on each
>link is between the
>"<" and the ">" on each one.
>
>Jim W.
>
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Re: CS>Nasal Spray Bottles

[TJ Garland]

Thanks. Jim.  I made the mistake of believing Apothecary Products when they 
told me they had 60 ml. SQUEEZE bottles. They sent me 35 ml. pumps and it 
took me 75 days to get my money back- and they would not reimburse me for 
the return freight.  I had to threaten to sue them.They are apparently a 
home based business with no money and a total lack of business acumen. Those 
in the last link are metered pumps and regular pumps.  Seems everyone just 
skips over the words "nasal squeeze".

 Ridiculous prices for a 20 th ounce of plastic.



TJ Garland, CMO supplier
  there are no incurable illnesses-only incurable people.






From: "Jim Wright \(Lists\)" 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: "CS List" 
Subject: CS>Nasal Spray Bottles
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 10:29:17 -0600

Here are a few web sites for nasal spray bottles.

<http://www.apothecaryproducts.com/catalogue/grouping.asp?CatID=43&Gr
oupID=452>

<http://www.apothecaryproducts.com/catalogue/grouping.asp?CatID=43&Gr
oupID=453>

<http://www.1-800-medical.com/nasal/nasal.htm#order>

Watch for broken links and be sure that all the information on each
link is between the
"<" and the ">" on each one.

Jim W.


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Re: CS>Nasal Spray Bottles

[Dan Nave]

Re: CS>Nasal Spray Bottles

Yes, thanks for the links.
I had done some searches a few months ago 
and had not found anything reasonable.

Dan



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Re: CS>Nasal Spray Bottles

[Tel Tofflemire]

Thanks for the links
Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ

Jim Wright (Lists) wrote:


Here are a few web sites for nasal spray bottles.







Watch for broken links and be sure that all the information on each
link is between the
"<" and the ">" on each one.

Jim W.


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CS>Nasal Spray Bottles

[Jim Wright (Lists)]

Here are a few web sites for nasal spray bottles.







Watch for broken links and be sure that all the information on each
link is between the
"<" and the ">" on each one.

Jim W.


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Re: CS>Nasal spray bottles

[Tel Tofflemire]

I just call the 800 phone number

Robb Allen wrote:


Hi.msm-msm.com has some decent products..and good prices...but
they get my vote for the absolute worse and clumsiest website in the
world.I've seen alot of people there for different thing only to have
them call me back and say they couldn't find it..and then I have to do
it myself..I wish they would fix that stupid website.you have to
go to the links page for links to some of their own
products!!!..Robb
- Original Message -
From: "Tel Tofflemire" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Nasal spray bottles


 


They have 4oz  pump foger spray bottles for $3  to $4 eachwhite
plastic.look here or call Beckey
http://www.msm-msm.com/
Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.



Dan Nave wrote:

   


Were you able to find a supplier of nasal spray bottles?

Dan


Re: CS>Re CS:>Xylitol,CS,H2O2 for sinus

   From: TJ Garland (view other messages by this author)
   Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 06:13:28

I, too, have been making and marketing Xyllergy in 2 oz. bottles for 2

months. It's a .2 m solution of xylitol in 10 ppm CS. Lots of sales. I
gave
this list the formula 60 days ago.

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Re: CS>Nasal spray bottles

[Robb Allen]

Hi.msm-msm.com has some decent products..and good prices...but
they get my vote for the absolute worse and clumsiest website in the
world.I've seen alot of people there for different thing only to have
them call me back and say they couldn't find it..and then I have to do
it myself..I wish they would fix that stupid website.you have to
go to the links page for links to some of their own
products!!!..Robb
- Original Message -
From: "Tel Tofflemire" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Nasal spray bottles


> They have 4oz  pump foger spray bottles for $3  to $4 eachwhite
> plastic.look here or call Beckey
> http://www.msm-msm.com/
> Tel Tofflemire
> Dewey, AZ.
>
>
>
> Dan Nave wrote:
>
> >Were you able to find a supplier of nasal spray bottles?
> >
> >Dan
> >
> >
> >Re: CS>Re CS:>Xylitol,CS,H2O2 for sinus
> >
> > From: TJ Garland (view other messages by this author)
> > Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 06:13:28
> >
> >I, too, have been making and marketing Xyllergy in 2 oz. bottles for 2
> >
> >months. It's a .2 m solution of xylitol in 10 ppm CS. Lots of sales. I
> >gave
> >this list the formula 60 days ago.
> >
> >TJ Garland, CMO supplier
> >   there are no incurable illnesses-only incurable people.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: CS>Nasal spray bottles

[Tel Tofflemire]

They have 4oz  pump foger spray bottles for $3  to $4 eachwhite 
plastic.look here or call Beckey

http://www.msm-msm.com/
Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.



Dan Nave wrote:


Were you able to find a supplier of nasal spray bottles?

Dan


Re: CS>Re CS:>Xylitol,CS,H2O2 for sinus

From: TJ Garland (view other messages by this author) 
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 06:13:28 


I, too, have been making and marketing Xyllergy in 2 oz. bottles for 2

months. It's a .2 m solution of xylitol in 10 ppm CS. Lots of sales. I
gave 
this list the formula 60 days ago.


TJ Garland, CMO supplier
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Re: CS nasal spray bottles

[Katarina Wittich]

Hi Mike,
the homeopathic nasal spray bottles would be found in health food stores.
Also Innovative Natural Products makes a CS/Aloe nasal spray which is sold
in a glass bottle with plastic only for the sprayer.
Take care,
katarina

> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 12:49:01 +
> From: "M. G. Devour" 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Re: nose spray bottles - Mike D
> Message-Id: <199909281648.maa13...@mail.id.net>
> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
>
>> Hey Mike, do you think there's fallout in the nose spray bottles if
>> you use glass ones? I use the ones made for homeopathic nose sprays,
>> so they are tinted glass and the only plastic in it is the hose to
>> the sprayer. So I don't know if I would notice fallout or not. I
>> guess I could just refresh it anyway. Katarina
>
> Hi Katarina,
>
> I don't know, I've never seen them. Now that you mention it, they
> sound like something I'd like to find! Health Food store or
> herbalist's?
>
> I imagine they're pretty easy on the CS, though you'd just have to
> watch for visible dropout to be sure.
>
> Be well,
>
> Mike D.


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Re: CS nasal spray / hair

[It's not me]

Bill,

Never thought of that.  If you try the CS, let us know if it seems to work
on mites.  I developed a sensitivity to mites a few years back and itched
nearly on a constant basis.  I finally had to get rid of all the cloth
surfaces in our house including the couch, drapes, carpet and recliners.
When it came to the mattress and pillows, we used some of those
dustproof/waterproof mattress and pillow cases.  It worked and now I don't
have any problems at all.  It also helps to wash your clothes and bedsheets
in really hot water.

Vern

-Original Message-
From: Bill Kingsbury 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Date: Friday, May 22, 1998 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: CS nasal spray / hair


> Mites very likely rely upon bacteria and/or fungus for the
> function of their digestive systems.  Use of =sufficient= CS to
> destroy this bacteria and/or fungus could thereby destroy the
> mite's ability to live and feed in human pores and follicles --
> or pillows, mattresses, etc.
>
> Does anyone know a practical, proven way to stop mites from living
> in pillows, pillow cases, mattresses, etc. (without removing and
> boiling them) ?
>



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Re: CS nasal spray

[NCOAMA]

Mike D

I started to use cs for dandruff. I apply it in the morning before I head off
to work. How much i use is not easy to tell. I keep it in an old CS bottle i
got from some company. a squeez type plastic bottle, anyhow i just put in on
my head until it runs off. sounds funny i guess but there is a good saturation
going on. then i just comb the hair and let it dry by its self. i do rub it in
befor combing. the cs seems to make the hair set in place and holds it all
day. plain water will not do that for me. anyhow a lot of new hair has grown
and tends to maintain a more youthfull color than it had before.


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Re: CS nasal spray / hair

[bjs1779]

Bill Kingsbury wrote:
> 
> 
>  Does anyone know a practical, proven way to stop mites from living
>  in pillows, pillow cases, mattresses, etc. (without removing and
>  boiling them) ?

Ozone


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Re: CS nasal spray / hair

[Bill Kingsbury]

 Perhaps CS would NOT affect mites, but then perhaps it would.

 Mites very likely rely upon bacteria and/or fungus for the 
 function of their digestive systems.  Use of =sufficient= CS to
 destroy this bacteria and/or fungus could thereby destroy the 
 mite's ability to live and feed in human pores and follicles -- 
 or pillows, mattresses, etc.

 As for hair loss, a CS hair rinse could eliminate any follicular 
 fungus that might be =directly= responsible for hair loss.

 In any case, NCOAMA's report of success -- with apparent NEW hair 
 growth AND improved hair quality -- is worth noting, and further 
 use seem warranted, regardless of 'theoretical considerations'.

 Does anyone know a practical, proven way to stop mites from living
 in pillows, pillow cases, mattresses, etc. (without removing and
 boiling them) ?


 As for scalp follicles, castor oil probably works, and it is 
 reportedly used in Russia for growing hair.

 Since castor oil acts as a 'transdermal carrier' for any agents
 (such as herbal extracts) that are mixed into it, why not mix
 strong CS into a castor oil, lecithin, and vodka emulsion,
 add some herb and spice extract -- nettles, and perhaps ginger,
 black pepper, garlic, or cayenne.  Use this as a scalp
 conditioner, and any mites or fungus should soon be history. 
 (Not too much vodka!  It's flammable.)  It would probably remove
 the 'sebum' in the follicles, also.

 (A nettles herb plus chopped onion 'vodka extract' grows hair, 
 according to some reports.  Research shows nettles can increase 
 'available free testosterone' and thus counteract dihydro- 
 testosterone (DHT), which is the main cause of male-pattern 
 baldness, prostatitis, and sometimes even low sex-drive in both 
 males and females.  Avena Sativa, or wild oats, and Saw Palmetto 
 also work to counteract DHT, and raise testosterone.)


 Note:The active ingredient in castor oil is ricinoleic acid.
 Ricinoleic acid has been shown to be effective in preventing
 the growth of numerous species of viruses, bacteria, yeasts
 and molds. (J Am Oil Chem Soc 61;37.323-325.)

 Used externally, hot 'castor oil packs' stimulate lymph 
 circulation and T-cell immune function, and treat fungal
 infections; internally, castor oil is a strong purgative.
 There are dozens of other uses in healing; in India the
 castor bean plant is called 'Erand'.  Only cold-pressed
 castor oil should be used (Heritage brand is one source).


 --Bill



 5-22-98, "It's not me" wrote:
 >
 > Would this work?  I recall reading that CS kills simple, 
 > single cell organisms, but not complex organisms.  I don't 
 > think that CS would help with mites, but would certainly 
 > kill bacteria in the pores or on your pillow.

 ~~
 5-21-98, Bill Kingsbury wrote:
 >
 > 5-21-98, NCOAMA wrote:
 > >
 > > i havn't used it in my nose for very long but i have put
 > > it on my head for nearly two years.  my scalp is still
 > > flesh color and my hair is much younger looking (even
 > > the new hair that the cs grew)
 >
 >
 > This makes sense, considering the theory that hair-loss is
 > infectious in nature, (usually?) due to fungus or mites living
 > in the hair follicles.
 >
 > There was a news-slot on CBS channel 2, around six weeks ago,
 > regarding the purported discovery of the root-cause of hair loss.
 > I missed it, but I saw the two-second preview shot -- of a
 > wiggly mite, somehow clearly filmed in a hair follicle.
 >
 > Does anyone have more info ?  I tried looking on their web
 > page:  www.channel2000.com , but there was nothing there, at
 > that time.
 >
 > There was a special on PBS TV (Nova ?) on mites earlier this
 > year.  The largest mites (in humans) are found in the eye-lash
 > follicles, and they are found in pores and follicles everywhere
 > on the body -- unless you take peroxide baths often, I guess.
 >
 > Or colloidal silver baths...  Yes, a CS hair rinse makes sense.
 >
 > CS in the washing machine might make sense, also, since mites
 > live in clothing and bedding -- where ever there's (dead) human
 > skin flakes (or dandruff).  Pillows and mattresses are the most
 > mite- populated places.  Would a CS pillow- spray work ?
 >
 > Dust mites, naturally, live on dust, but most dust is purported
 > to be human skin flakes.  'Mite control' is important for those
 > with allergies and asthma, since mites (and mite feces) are a
 > MAJOR allergy trigger.
 >
 >
 > --Bill
 >




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Re: CS nasal spray / hair

[It's not me]

Would this work?  I recall reading that CS kills simple, single cell
organisms, but not complex organisms.  I don't think that CS would help with
mites, but would certainly kill bacteria in the pores or on your pillow.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Kingsbury 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Date: Thursday, May 21, 1998 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: CS nasal spray / hair


>
> 5-21-98, NCOAMA wrote:
> >
> > i havn't used it in my nose for very long but i have put
> > it on my head for nearly two years.  my scalp is still
> > flesh color and my hair is much younger looking (even
> > the new hair that the cs grew)
>
>
> This makes sense, considering the theory that hair-loss is
> infectious in nature, (usually?) due to fungus or mites living
> in the hair follicles.
>
> There was a news-slot on CBS channel 2, around six weeks ago,
> regarding the purported discovery of the root-cause of hair loss.
> I missed it, but I saw the two-second preview shot -- of a
> wiggly mite, somehow clearly filmed in a hair follicle.
>
> Does anyone have more info ?  I tried looking on their web
> page:  www.channel2000.com , but there was nothing there, at
> that time.
>
> There was a special on PBS TV (Nova ?) on mites earlier this
> year.  The largest mites (in humans) are found in the eye-lash
> follicles, and they are found in pores and follicles everywhere
> on the body -- unless you take peroxide baths often, I guess.
>
> Or colloidal silver baths...  Yes, a CS hair rinse makes sense.
>
> CS in the washing machine might make sense, also, since mites
> live in clothing and bedding -- where ever there's (dead) human
> skin flakes (or dandruff).  Pillows and mattresses are the most
> mite- populated places.  Would a CS pillow- spray work ?
>
> Dust mites, naturally, live on dust, but most dust is purported
> to be human skin flakes.  'Mite control' is important for those
> with allergies and asthma, since mites (and mite feces) are a
> MAJOR allergy trigger.
>
>
> --Bill
>
>
>
>
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Re: CS nasal spray / hair

[Bill Kingsbury]

 5-21-98, NCOAMA wrote:
 >
 > i havn't used it in my nose for very long but i have put
 > it on my head for nearly two years.  my scalp is still
 > flesh color and my hair is much younger looking (even
 > the new hair that the cs grew)


 This makes sense, considering the theory that hair-loss is 
 infectious in nature, (usually?) due to fungus or mites living 
 in the hair follicles.  

 There was a news-slot on CBS channel 2, around six weeks ago, 
 regarding the purported discovery of the root-cause of hair loss.  
 I missed it, but I saw the two-second preview shot -- of a 
 wiggly mite, somehow clearly filmed in a hair follicle.

 Does anyone have more info ?  I tried looking on their web 
 page:  www.channel2000.com , but there was nothing there, at 
 that time.

 There was a special on PBS TV (Nova ?) on mites earlier this 
 year.  The largest mites (in humans) are found in the eye-lash 
 follicles, and they are found in pores and follicles everywhere 
 on the body -- unless you take peroxide baths often, I guess.

 Or colloidal silver baths...  Yes, a CS hair rinse makes sense.

 CS in the washing machine might make sense, also, since mites 
 live in clothing and bedding -- where ever there's (dead) human
 skin flakes (or dandruff).  Pillows and mattresses are the most
 mite- populated places.  Would a CS pillow- spray work ?

 Dust mites, naturally, live on dust, but most dust is purported
 to be human skin flakes.  'Mite control' is important for those
 with allergies and asthma, since mites (and mite feces) are a
 MAJOR allergy trigger. 


 --Bill




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Re: CS nasal spray

[M. G. Devour]

How do you apply it, how often and how much? Did you start using it
for rashes, dandruff or something like that?

Thanks,

Mike D.

On 21 May 98 at 1:06,  NCOAMA wrote:

> i havn't used it in my nose for very long but i have put it on my
> head for nearly two years. my scalp is still flesh color and my hair
> is much younger looking (even the new hair that the cs grew)

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