RE: CSBugs from Brown rice 2
Much of our food is allowed to be contaminated with foreign material. That would include anything other than the food. Here is an example of what % is allowed in grain by the USDA: http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfrsid=829b3781c203638a980 09e976608f4d2rgn=div5view=textnode=7:7.1.2.8.4idno=7 http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfrsid=829b3781c203638a980 09e976608f4d2rgn=div5view=textnode=7:7.1.2.8.4idno=7#7:7.1.2.8.4.8.118.4 -Original Message- From: debbiegerar...@comcast.net [mailto:debbiegerar...@comcast.net] Sent: July 25, 2006 11:17 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2 I have had real small little critters before but this is the first time in my life I have had these ones...they came out of an unopened brown rice bag and the rice wasn't organicdebbie -- Original message -- From: Carl Deb Charter carl...@charter.net Hi Deb: The best bet is to keep all your starches (flour, rice, cereal) in glass containers, or in the refrigerator. Make sure any pet food is a sealed container as well. That way if you do get pantry pest at least it won't spread to your other foods. Make sure you clean your pantry well. From what I understand, pantry pests are pretty common, ick!! Deb - Original Message - From: kskiefe...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 8:08 PM Subject: Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2 My deepest sympathy. the stuff about the extra protein is funny unless you have these critters. If you have bad eyes and cannot see them, I also think it may not be a problem. I had them once. (once is too many times) they came in the sealed bag of flour I bought at the store. this is often how you get them I am told. I found that they were very hard to get rid of. by the time I found them, they were is many boxes. they were small black, kind of looked like black flecks until they moved (quickly) to avoid detection. I had to get rid of most of the food in the cupboard. maybe you were lucky and caught them quickly. washing down the cupboard/pantry is a good idea but you will get re infected unless you get all their favorite food out of there. Karen -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/396 - Release Date: 7/24/06
RE: CSBugs from Brown rice 2
How nice it is that the lawgivers have now erected Borders for Bugs and Other Undesireables. Hilarious. stuff At 04:14 AM 7/26/2006, you wrote: Much of our food is allowed to be contaminated with foreign material. That would include anything other than the food. Here is an example of what % is allowed in grain by the USDA: http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfrsid=829b3781c203638a98009e976608f4d2rgn=div5view=textnode=7:7.1.2.8.4idno=7http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfrsid=829b3781c203638a98009e976608f4d2rgn=div5view=textnode=7:7.1.2.8.4idno=7 http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfrsid=829b3781c203638a98009e976608f4d2rgn=div5view=textnode=7:7.1.2.8.4idno=7#7:7.1.2.8.4.8.118.4 -Original Message- From: debbiegerar...@comcast.net [mailto:debbiegerar...@comcast.net] Sent: July 25, 2006 11:17 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2 I have had real small little critters before but this is the first time in my life I have had these ones...they came out of an unopened brown rice bag and the rice wasn't organicdebbie -- Original message -- From: Carl Deb Charter carl...@charter.net Hi Deb: The best bet is to keep all your starches (flour, rice, cereal) in glass containers, or in the refrigerator. Make sure any pet food is a sealed container as well. That way if you do get pantry pest at least it won't spread to your other foods. Make sure you clean your pantry well. From what I understand, pantry pests are pretty common, ick!! Deb - Original Message - From: mailto:kskiefe...@aol.comkskiefe...@aol.com To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 8:08 PM Subject: Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2 My deepest sympathy. the stuff about the extra protein is funny unless you have these critters. If you have bad eyes and cannot see them, I also think it may not be a problem. I had them once. (once is too many times) they came in the sealed bag of flour I bought at the store. this is often how you get them I am told. I found that they were very hard to get rid of. by the time I found them, they were is many boxes. they were small black, kind of looked like black flecks until they moved (quickly) to avoid detection. I had to get rid of most of the food in the cupboard. maybe you were lucky and caught them quickly. washing down the cupboard/pantry is a good idea but you will get re infected unless you get all their favorite food out of there. Karen -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/396 - Release Date: 7/24/06 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/396 - Release Date: 7/24/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/399 - Release Date: 7/25/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2
I have had real small little critters before but this is the first time in my life I have had these ones...they came out of an unopened brown rice bag and the rice wasn't organic So vegatarians eat more protein than they thought. Brickey
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2 - Pantry Moth Trap
From: Rowena new...@aapt.net.au Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 10:01 PM It continued to be a problem for decades until I happened to notice something called a pantry moth trap. There are plenty of entries via Google search on those words, but I don't have an unopened pack to tell you about what I can get here. It's a flat cardboard that you fold into a triangular tube. You open up a lure and stick it on the sticky inside of the trap. Moths are attracted to the lure, and get stuck on the sticky stuff. I hardly ever see a moth now - except stuck in the trap. - That's the one I posted the link to the other day. I get it from Gardens Alive here in the US. Sharon -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2 - Pantry Moth Trap
It's a flat cardboard that you fold into a triangular tube. You open up a lure and stick it on the sticky inside of the trap. Moths are attracted to the lure, and get stuck on the sticky stuff. I hardly ever see a moth now - except stuck in the trap. - That's the one I posted the link to the other day. I get it from Gardens Alive here in the US. Sharon Yes, sorry Sharon, I felt a bit silly when I got down to your post and saw you had already said much the same thing. I had a look at the link, and there looks to be some very interesting stuff at Gardens Alive. It's probably a different company, but same principle, making what we can get here in Australia, though I just get it at the supermarket. I noticed it called Pantry Pest Trap, too, as opposed to Pantry Moth Trap. Rowena -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 22:44:35 -0700, Acmeair wrote in 44c5afc3.8070...@verizon.net: i've been into this health stuff since the mid 70's. grain mill, kefir/yogurt makers, what all. was always having to dump stuff because of the infections of crawling and flying bugs. Just have a way to recycle these things, and they are no longer a loss. We feed them to the chickens and next day they are recycled into eggs! Bay leaf leaves is interesting, must try that. Heidrun Beer Workgroup for Fundamental Spiritual Research and Mental Training http://www.sgmt.at -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2
The way we found to get rid of them is to put EVERYTHING that they may eat into seperate zip lock bags. If they appear inside the bag, throw it away unopened. When they can no longer find any food, they all die off. Marshall kskiefe...@aol.com wrote: My deepest sympathy. the stuff about the extra protein is funny unless you have these critters. If you have bad eyes and cannot see them, I also think it may not be a problem. I had them once. (once is too many times) they came in the sealed bag of flour I bought at the store. this is often how you get them I am told. I found that they were very hard to get rid of. by the time I found them, they were is many boxes. they were small black, kind of looked like black flecks until they moved (quickly) to avoid detection. I had to get rid of most of the food in the cupboard. maybe you were lucky and caught them quickly. washing down the cupboard/pantry is a good idea but you will get re infected unless you get all their favorite food out of there. Karen
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2
In a message dated 7/25/2006 7:24:35 AM Pacific Standard Time, mdud...@king-cart.com writes: The way we found to get rid of them is to put EVERYTHING that they may eat into seperate zip lock bags. If they appear inside the bag, throw it away unopened. When they can no longer find any food, they all die off. Marshall Marshall: Good point I forgot to mention. They have a knack of getting into things. They can make very small holes in packages. you can think something is OK because it is sealed but it is not. The idea of plastic ziplocks is very good. You have a better chance to see if they have infested the food. They are small, move fast and avoid being seen. Karen
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2
Thanks for all the answers my main concern has been twenty five pound bags I bought from the health food store the past month so far they look okayI put them in a big beach cooler I have along with bay leaves...and oh yes these are organic so I am hoping that makes a differencedebbie -- Original message -- From: Acmeair res00...@verizon.net i've been into this health stuff since the mid 70's. grain mill, kefir/yogurt makers, what all. was always having to dump stuff because of the infections of crawling and flying bugs. a lady, sharing a room with the wife in a hospital ward, realized that i might be LDS, which i am not, explained how to keep grains, etc., without attracting these bugs. whenever you bring any thing home, make sure you put the product into a airtight container, (mason jar) (peanut butter jar) or what ever. but,,, put at least one bay leaf leaf into the jar. i've checked older jars that had been forgotten, like 3-4 years,, with bay leaves in them, and no.. bugs. quite simple Carl Deb Charter wrote: Hi Deb: The best bet is to keep all your starches (flour, rice, cereal) in glass containers, or in the refrigerator. Make sure any pet food is a sealed container as well. That way if you do get pantry pest at least it won't spread to your other foods. Make sure you clean your pantry well. From what I understand, pantry pests are pretty common, ick!! Deb -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2
I have had real small little critters before but this is the first time in my life I have had these ones...they came out of an unopened brown rice bag and the rice wasn't organicdebbie -- Original message -- From: Carl Deb Charter carl...@charter.net Hi Deb: The best bet is to keep all your starches (flour, rice, cereal) in glass containers, or in the refrigerator. Make sure any pet food is a sealed container as well. That way if you do get pantry pest at least it won't spread to your other foods. Make sure you clean your pantry well. From what I understand, pantry pests are pretty common, ick!! Deb - Original Message - From: kskiefe...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 8:08 PM Subject: Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2 My deepest sympathy. the stuff about the extra protein is funny unless you have these critters. If you have bad eyes and cannot see them, I also think it may not be a problem. I had them once. (once is too many times) they came in the sealed bag of flour I bought at the store. this is often how you get them I am told. I found that they were very hard to get rid of. by the time I found them, they were is many boxes. they were small black, kind of looked like black flecks until they moved (quickly) to avoid detection. I had to get rid of most of the food in the cupboard. maybe you were lucky and caught them quickly. washing down the cupboard/pantry is a good idea but you will get re infected unless you get all their favorite food out of there. Karen No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/396 - Release Date: 7/24/06
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2
My deepest sympathy. the stuff about the extra protein is funny unless you have these critters. If you have bad eyes and cannot see them, I also think it may not be a problem. I had them once. (once is too many times) they came in the sealed bag of flour I bought at the store. this is often how you get them I am told. I found that they were very hard to get rid of. by the time I found them, they were is many boxes. they were small black, kind of looked like black flecks until they moved (quickly) to avoid detection. I had to get rid of most of the food in the cupboard. maybe you were lucky and caught them quickly. washing down the cupboard/pantry is a good idea but you will get re infected unless you get all their favorite food out of there. Karen
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2
Hi Deb: The best bet is to keep all your starches (flour, rice, cereal) in glass containers, or in the refrigerator. Make sure any pet food is a sealed container as well. That way if you do get pantry pest at least it won't spread to your other foods. Make sure you clean your pantry well. From what I understand, pantry pests are pretty common, ick!! Deb - Original Message - From: kskiefe...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 8:08 PM Subject: Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2 My deepest sympathy. the stuff about the extra protein is funny unless you have these critters. If you have bad eyes and cannot see them, I also think it may not be a problem. I had them once. (once is too many times) they came in the sealed bag of flour I bought at the store. this is often how you get them I am told. I found that they were very hard to get rid of. by the time I found them, they were is many boxes. they were small black, kind of looked like black flecks until they moved (quickly) to avoid detection. I had to get rid of most of the food in the cupboard. maybe you were lucky and caught them quickly. washing down the cupboard/pantry is a good idea but you will get re infected unless you get all their favorite food out of there. Karen -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/396 - Release Date: 7/24/06
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2 - Pantry Moth Trap
One of the bugbears when we first moved here to Australia was the Indian Meal Moth. When you're starting out from scratch building a household again and using things like ice cream containers as kitchen containers, there is no protection, as the caterpillars or whatever seem to just slide nicely under the lid. Screw top containers were better because they were more difficult to navigate, and one would find little webs in the screw threads. It continued to be a problem for decades until I happened to notice something called a pantry moth trap. There are plenty of entries via Google search on those words, but I don't have an unopened pack to tell you about what I can get here. It's a flat cardboard that you fold into a triangular tube. You open up a lure and stick it on the sticky inside of the trap. Moths are attracted to the lure, and get stuck on the sticky stuff. I hardly ever see a moth now - except stuck in the trap. I often wondered just how bad caterpillars and weevils were in the flour - after all we must swallow loads we don't know about, and it can be scary to sift flour and see these things there. Eventually I read somewhere that the problem is not so much in the creatures themselves, as in the stuff that is inside them. We don't always know where our great load of bad stuff comes from; unintentional protein in grains may be one source. Great fleas have little fleas etc. etc. etc. Rowena the stuff about the extra protein is funny unless you have these critters. If you have bad eyes and cannot see them, I also think it may not be a problem. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2
i've been into this health stuff since the mid 70's. grain mill, kefir/yogurt makers, what all. was always having to dump stuff because of the infections of crawling and flying bugs. a lady, sharing a room with the wife in a hospital ward, realized that i might be LDS, which i am not, explained how to keep grains, etc., without attracting these bugs. whenever you bring any thing home, make sure you put the product into a airtight container, (mason jar) (peanut butter jar) or what ever. but,,, put at least one bay leaf leaf into the jar. i've checked older jars that had been forgotten, like 3-4 years,, with bay leaves in them, and no.. bugs. quite simple Carl Deb Charter wrote: Hi Deb: The best bet is to keep all your starches (flour, rice, cereal) in glass containers, or in the refrigerator. Make sure any pet food is a sealed container as well. That way if you do get pantry pest at least it won't spread to your other foods. Make sure you clean your pantry well. From what I understand, pantry pests are pretty common, ick!! Deb -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2
Debbie is this the one??? http://www.knowledgebank.irri.org/riceDoctor_MX/Fact_Sheets/Pests/Rice_Bug.htm Trudy
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2
no there look like small little mothsI wonder why I got them now?? -- Original message -- From: Gertrude dj...@home.nl Debbie is this the one??? http://www.knowledgebank.irri.org/riceDoctor_MX/Fact_Sheets/Pests/Rice_Bug.htm Trudy
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2
They or the larvae were probably in the rice when you bought it. Once or twice over the years I've found them in rice that had been stored for a while. Wipe the area down with alcohol. debbiegerar...@comcast.net wrote: no there look like small little mothsI wonder why I got them now?? -- Original message -- From: Gertrude dj...@home.nl Debbie is this the one??? http://www.knowledgebank.irri.org/riceDoctor_MX/Fact_Sheets/Pests/Rice_Bug.htm Trudy Carol Ann ~Those who dared to dance were thought to be quite insane by those who could not hear the music ~ Visit: http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/action.shtml - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free.
Re: CSBugs from Brown rice 2
gotchathis has never happened to me beforethanks debbie -- Original message -- From: Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com They or the larvae were probably in the rice when you bought it. Once or twice over the years I've found them in rice that had been stored for a while. Wipe the area down with alcohol. debbiegerar...@comcast.net wrote: no there look like small little mothsI wonder why I got them now?? -- Original message -- From: Gertrude dj...@home.nl Debbie is this the one??? http://www.knowledgebank.irri.org/riceDoctor_MX/Fact_Sheets/Pests/Rice_Bug.htm Trudy Carol Ann ~Those who dared to dance were thought to be quite insane by those who could not hear the music ~ Visit: http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/action.shtml Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free.
