Re: CSFDA, silver and CODEX
At 09:29 AM 12/7/2004 -0500, Ode wrote: A law that's ignored is not a law. It's a cry for a strongly defended black market. The law of supply and demand has NEVER been ignored. It has ALWAYS superceded all other laws. Where there be a demand, there 'shall be' a supply. That demand has always spontaniously produced, trained and funded the exact degree and army of numbers of midnight guerrilla desparados and underground support networks it takes to satisfy it. THAT is the American way. Ode [Owns several guns and wonders why...maybe as currency with the desparados?] Granted Americans seem to do it well, this demand/supply stuff, but the above is about The Human Condition and is not an exclusively American thing. The Chinese have been doing all this exceedingly well for thousands of years. Their System was irrelevant and will continue to be so for them and anyone else who chooses to ignore theirs. They generally know better on how to 'sneak thru the cracks' than any other culture. Americans will soon learn as more doors are closed in front of them. Of all the 36 ways to get out of trouble, the best is to leave. --old Chinese proverb stuff -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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We got used to the bathtub stuff and you never had to do anything but find the best places to get the best stuff...and maybe water it down and smuggle it here. ...or, you guys need the best of antifreeze? It's just coolant 'round here. ;-) I hear the tradition continues with BC Bud. Congrats! Keep up the good work. We just might wind up with another half decent womanising politicial dynasty. Bud and booze beats an oil slick to the brothel, it would appear. [No need to inhale... a good lickin will keep it tickin.] Got any buoyant bouncy brothels to boost beyond the borders? Ode [OK OK, OT, good flavors and poor PC taste.. I quit before somebady gets off ended] At 10:37 AM 12/7/2004 -0500, you wrote: Whats with us Canadians any way. How come we got great booze and the US doesnt.? (ok..just the beer ) -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 10:21 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>FDA, silver and CODEX ..Case in point.. so far, two people have been busted with smuggled flu vaccine. Probably many others who haven't been busted. BTW... Thanks for the booze, Canada. Good job!, Mr Kennedy. [paternal family smuggler] Did Clinton fund his campaign on Coca money laundered through land deals? ..some say 'so' Ode Where there be a demand, there 'shall be' a supply. That demand has always spontaniously produced, trained and funded the exact degree and army of numbers of midnight guerrilla desparados and underground support networks it takes to satisfy it. THAT is the American way. Ode --===AVGMAIL-41B5CA724721=== Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg=cert; charset=us-ascii; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-43071EEB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: AVG certification No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.6 - Release Date: 12/5/2004 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.6 - Release Date: 12/5/2004 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.7 - Release Date: 12/7/2004
Re: CSFDA, silver and CODEX
Re: CSFDA, silver and CODEX From: Marmar845 (view other messages by this author) Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 18:38:01 In a message dated 12/7/2004 3:14:37 PM Central Standard Time, epa...@sympatico.ca writes: That again,is just my opinion. :-) we are entitled to one aren't we MA? (Grin) We are indeed, Ernie -- we are indeed!MA Thanks for clearing that up, guys! Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Thanks Himagain! I hope each of us will read, heed and pass on your informative observations to help us adopt DR. Mercola's suggestions and take back our freedoms and accept our responsibilities: Namely: Each of us are Responsible to obtain and maintain our own Good Health! Sincerely, ___ Richard Harris, 57 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 www.rharrisinc.com www.myseahealth.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: himagain [mailto:himag...@fablor.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 12:47 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFDA, silver and CODEX At 03:09 PM 06/12/04, you wrote: Mr. himagain, could you give us more info on this mds not keeping up with prescription-writing averages. i've assumed that you are in australia, correcto??? jim Sure Jim, Australia still has the best medical structure in the world, despite its many holes, but the US Pharmamed cartel is wearing it down. We have a subsidised medical service with two tiers: PRIVATE in which people can pay insurance for better facilities (theoretically not better treatment...) like own choice of Doctor, private room, elective surgery etc. and PUBLIC in which every citizen or visitor for that matter, can receive necessary medical/surgical help, free. Pharmaceuticals are massively subsidised so that the US Pharmaceutical cartel makes astronomical profits ( $125 for 96 cents worth of chemicals) and the peasants only *directly* pay a couple of bucks. The WHOLE SYSTEM is geared around the dispensing of approved pharmaceuticals and a GP ( General Practitioner) that doesn't dispense enough will be in big trouble. BUT it is then called under-servicing. In a General Practice of today, an MD is expected to turnover a patient every 7 minutes. Then hevvin help him if he doesn't write a scrip, too. ( The kickbacks from those buy a lot of yachts) We did have a small ripple in things a while ago when the US threw their weight around here a bit too publicly - punishing a few malcontents who complained - including the head of the Pharmaceutical Price Review C'tee here - about the excesses and threatening to buy elswhere.. yeh, like Mexico? They are gone. However, the control here is also the best in the world thanks to the reporting system for Medicare as it is called and They know exactly what every Doctor is doing all of the time, thanks to Oz computer innovations like Isys and advanced Data-balancing. E.G. An awful lot of GPs are now very much against willy-nilly vaccination - particularly of the young - but are not able to say much OR ELSE. They also can't simply stay quiet and not vaccinate the innocent, because it shows up instantly in the statistics breakdowns. ( More than a few have had warnings that I am aware of - and quickly, too.) Vaccinations are an in thing here today, making up for the losses on the HRT side. Himagain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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At 12:29 AM 08/12/04, Ode wrote: I'm coming to think that owning guns is no longer ,in itself, a deterrant to tyranny..it's the fact that our kinfolk in the military, who are a thousand times better equipt and able to organize any assault or defense would hate to have to shoot us relatively pansy ass gun owners into little pieces. [It ain't even 'sportin' ] Face it, ten of us remote control TV junkies wouldn't compare to even one determined eager to die desert freak with a AK47 and RPG that gets wiped out by the thousand a day by 50 of 'our guys'. Ode, you have been watching too many American Pie Movies. :-) I've taken this a little further on the Off-Topic list - at great personal risk of attack. O:-) New topic : soldiers Cheers, Himagain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I'm coming to think that owning guns is no longer ,in itself, a deterrant to tyranny..it's the fact that our kinfolk in the military, who are a thousand times better equipt and able to organize any assault or defense would hate to have to shoot us relatively pansy ass gun owners into little pieces. [It ain't even 'sportin' ] Face it, ten of us remote control TV junkies wouldn't compare to even one determined eager to die desert freak with a AK47 and RPG that gets wiped out by the thousand a day by 50 of 'our guys'. The most horrific armed scenerio we 'could' present would be hundreds of old tottering people in walkers toting rusty wavering shotguns shouting in weak little warbling voices, We demand our vitamins!. 'That' could be a regime change. A law that's ignored is not a law. It's a cry for a strongly defended black market. The law of supply and demand has NEVER been ignored. It has ALWAYS superceded all other laws. Where there be a demand, there 'shall be' a supply. That demand has always spontaniously produced, trained and funded the exact degree and army of numbers of midnight guerrilla desparados and underground support networks it takes to satisfy it. THAT is the American way. Ode [Owns several guns and wonders why...maybe as currency with the desparados?] Hey dude, trade ya a case of ammo for a case of vitamin C? [Makes those tin cans feel a lot safer.] Ode [Great white soup can killer and sometime bottle hunter.] Southern legacy: No discarded washing machine shall exist without a number of small expensive holes in it. At 10:14 AM 12/5/2004 -0700, you wrote: It seems to me that our founding fathers also wrote of something called bearing arms. I'm sure that some intelligent research into that area, and into the reasons why they wrote it, will lead to proper conclusions. Not that I own any arms mind you, but there is (in my opinion) sound reasoning behind the reasons that I could own them if I felt the need. -James Allison - Original Message - From: mailto:drd...@mindspring.com>David W Kenney To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 9:35 AM Subject: RE: CS>FDA, silver and CODEX George: Your idea of fighting a situation that is disagreeable such as the vitamin issue simply by purchasing a gun is one of the reasons the powers that be are able to sneak these things in on the unsuspecting public. Our forefathers set up a system of voting people who spoke for us to make the laws so anything that happens is in the end our fault. We should first find out what the people we elected voted on the thing we dont like and if he voted for it get rid of him/her and let them know why. Then, since our legal system and legislators might not care what the people think anymore then make sure you have the gun .and ammo. But exhaust the system first. Dr. Kenney -- From: George [mailto:in...@dragonbyte.net] Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 7:50 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>FDA, silver and CODEX Ken, Here are a couple of good places to start...the horses mouth as it were. A little bit of research will reveal that the commission began in 1963! Worldwide in 2005? I'm not how much more 'worldwide' it could be since the last commission had members from 160 countries. http://www.codexalimentarius.net/web/index_en.jsp# http://www.fsis.usda.gov/regulations__policies/Codex_Alimentarius/index.asp It seems that the folks making the loudest noises about this are the same folks who, when the Patriot Act was passed, placed themselves in cattle cars and sent themselves to the Gulag. Some folks live their lives in such fear that every little thing that can be extropolated into a personal threat drives them to near catatonia. This list contains more than its share of these types. Myself, I just buy another rifle and case of ammo. Then in the spring I find another neighbor who needs help putting in a garden. George --Original Message Text--- From: Ken Nancy Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 00:36:21 -0800 Actually, bbanever, that's a very good point. If CODEX is really all it's cracked up to be, why isn't every vitamin company, especially the big ones, getting busy popularizing this problem so a real anti effort gets underway? I think I will start looking into this issue a little more, though. -Ken Bagwell No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.5 - Release Date: 12/3/2004 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.6 - Release Date: 12/5/2004 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.6 - Release Date: 12/5/2004 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.6 - Release Date: 12/5/2004
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..Case in point.. so far, two people have been busted with smuggled flu vaccine. Probably many others who haven't been busted. BTW... Thanks for the booze, Canada. Good job!, Mr Kennedy. [paternal family smuggler] Did Clinton fund his campaign on Coca money laundered through land deals? ..some say 'so' Ode Where there be a demand, there 'shall be' a supply. That demand has always spontaniously produced, trained and funded the exact degree and army of numbers of midnight guerrilla desparados and underground support networks it takes to satisfy it. THAT is the American way. Ode --===AVGMAIL-41B5CA724721=== Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg=cert; charset=us-ascii; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-43071EEB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: AVG certification No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.6 - Release Date: 12/5/2004
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What's with us Canadians any way. How come we got great booze and the US doesn't.? (ok..just the beer ) -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 10:21 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFDA, silver and CODEX ..Case in point.. so far, two people have been busted with smuggled flu vaccine. Probably many others who haven't been busted. BTW... Thanks for the booze, Canada. Good job!, Mr Kennedy. [paternal family smuggler] Did Clinton fund his campaign on Coca money laundered through land deals? ..some say 'so' Ode Where there be a demand, there 'shall be' a supply. That demand has always spontaniously produced, trained and funded the exact degree and army of numbers of midnight guerrilla desparados and underground support networks it takes to satisfy it. THAT is the American way. Ode --===AVGMAIL-41B5CA724721=== Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg=cert; charset=us-ascii; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-43071EEB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: AVG certification No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.6 - Release Date: 12/5/2004
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In a message dated 12/7/04 1:16:00 PM EST, dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com writes: There's no accounting for taste. I think Southern Comfort tastes like perfume... Why is it that some people can NOT express their preferences without denigrating the preferences of others? MA Well, as he said, MA, there's no accounting for taste... HIS TASTE!! GRIN Anyway, as Ernie so ably noted, differences of opinion are inevitable. I hope we'll always reserve our *serious* debate for the important stuff, and agree to disagree on matters... of taste! Be well, Mike D. da list owner guy [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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In a message dated 12/7/04 10:39:03 AM EST, epa...@sympatico.ca writes: What's with us Canadians any way. How come we got great booze and the US doesn't.? Well, hold on Mr.-Canadian-and-obviously-proud-of-it -- the good old U.S. has Southern Comfort, and I wouldn't drink anything else!!! Now, THAT'S great booze!!lol MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I agree, that is why I put in brackets (BEER!) Can u explain this? :-) -Original Message- From: marmar...@aol.com [mailto:marmar...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 11:42 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFDA, silver and CODEX In a message dated 12/7/04 10:39:03 AM EST, epa...@sympatico.ca writes: What's with us Canadians any way. How come we got great booze and the US doesn't.? Well, hold on Mr.-Canadian-and-obviously-proud-of-it -- the good old U.S. has Southern Comfort, and I wouldn't drink anything else!!! Now, THAT'S great booze!!lol MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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There's no accounting for taste. I think Southern Comfort tastes like perfume... As far as the other question, I think it's because since beer costs so much in Canada they insist that it at least tastes good. The US as a wide range of price and quality of beer to choose from. Try something from the Summit Brewing Company of Saint Paul, Minnesota. Most of them hold up to anything you might find elsewhere. Dan PS (Sorry Mike. OT) RE: CSFDA, silver and CODEX From: Yogiboy (view other messages by this author) Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 09:19:34 I agree, that is why I put in brackets (BEER!) Can u explain this? :-) -Original Message- From: marmar...@aol.com [mailto:marmar...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 11:42 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFDA, silver and CODEX In a message dated 12/7/04 10:39:03 AM EST, epa...@sympatico.ca writes: What's with us Canadians any way. How come we got great booze and the US doesn't.? Well, hold on Mr.-Canadian-and-obviously-proud-of-it -- the good old U.S. has Southern Comfort, and I wouldn't drink anything else!!! Now, THAT'S great booze!!lol MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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In a message dated 12/7/04 1:16:00 PM EST, dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com writes: There's no accounting for taste. I think Southern Comfort tastes like perfume... Why is it that some people can NOT express their preferences without denigrating the preferences of others? MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I don't know if that was denigrating anything or anyone, heck I kind of learned to like the taste of purfume when I was dating. Marshall marmar...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 12/7/04 1:16:00 PM EST, dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com writes: There's no accounting for taste. I think Southern Comfort tastes like perfume... Why is it that some people can NOT express their preferences without denigrating the preferences of others? MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Yeah didn't we all when we were much yonger..lol -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 3:51 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFDA, silver and CODEX I don't know if that was denigrating anything or anyone, heck I kind of learned to like the taste of purfume when I was dating. Marshall marmar...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 12/7/04 1:16:00 PM EST, dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com writes: There's no accounting for taste. I think Southern Comfort tastes like perfume... Why is it that some people can NOT express their preferences without denigrating the preferences of others? MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I'd have to agree with MA...However, seeing that we are on this path. American beer doesn't measure up to Canadian beer because they don't know how to make it. Outside of taste, it's weak. I've had a good few brand south of the border. There is no comparison. BUT HEY! That again, is just my opinion. :-) we are entitled to one aren't we MA? (Grin) E. -Original Message- From: marmar...@aol.com [mailto:marmar...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 3:45 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFDA, silver and CODEX In a message dated 12/7/04 1:16:00 PM EST, dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com writes: There's no accounting for taste. I think Southern Comfort tastes like perfume... Why is it that some people can NOT express their preferences without denigrating the preferences of others? MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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In a message dated 12/7/2004 3:14:37 PM Central Standard Time, epa...@sympatico.ca writes: That again, is just my opinion. :-) we are entitled to one aren't we MA? (Grin) We are indeed, Ernie -- we are indeed!MA
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In a message dated 12/7/2004 2:52:31 PM Central Standard Time, mdud...@king-cart.com writes: heck I kind of learned to like the taste of purfume when I was dating. You're funny, Marshall!! MA (chuckling)
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In a message dated 12/7/2004 2:56:11 PM Central Standard Time, mdev...@eskimo.com writes: Well, as he said, MA, there's no accounting for taste... HIS TASTE!! I thought the EXACT same thing! I hope we'll always reserve our *serious* debate for the important stuff, and agree to disagree on matters... of taste! Yessir Mr. Mike -- message received. MA
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--Original Message Text--- From: Yogiboy Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 10:37:54 -0500 Whats with us Canadians any way. How come we got great booze and the US doesnt.? (ok..just the beer ) It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt. -- Mark Twain -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 10:21 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFDA, silver and CODEX ..Case in point.. so far, two people have been busted with smuggled flu vaccine. Probably many others who haven't been busted. BTW... Thanks for the booze, Canada. Good job!, Mr Kennedy. [paternal family smuggler] Did Clinton fund his campaign on Coca money laundered through land deals? ..some say 'so' Ode Where there be a demand, there 'shall be' a supply. That demand has always spontaniously produced, trained and funded the exact degree and army of numbers of midnight guerrilla desparados and underground support networks it takes to satisfy it. THAT is the American way. Ode --===AVGMAIL-41B5CA724721=== Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg=cert; charset=us-ascii; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-43071EEB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: AVG certification No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.6 - Release Date: 12/5/2004
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At 03:09 PM 06/12/04, you wrote: Mr. himagain, could you give us more info on this mds not keeping up with prescription-writing averages. i've assumed that you are in australia, correcto??? jim Sure Jim, Australia still has the best medical structure in the world, despite its many holes, but the US Pharmamed cartel is wearing it down. We have a subsidised medical service with two tiers: PRIVATE in which people can pay insurance for better facilities (theoretically not better treatment...) like own choice of Doctor, private room, elective surgery etc. and PUBLIC in which every citizen or visitor for that matter, can receive necessary medical/surgical help, free. Pharmaceuticals are massively subsidised so that the US Pharmaceutical cartel makes astronomical profits ( $125 for 96 cents worth of chemicals) and the peasants only *directly* pay a couple of bucks. The WHOLE SYSTEM is geared around the dispensing of approved pharmaceuticals and a GP ( General Practitioner) that doesn't dispense enough will be in big trouble. BUT it is then called under-servicing. In a General Practice of today, an MD is expected to turnover a patient every 7 minutes. Then hevvin help him if he doesn't write a scrip, too. ( The kickbacks from those buy a lot of yachts) We did have a small ripple in things a while ago when the US threw their weight around here a bit too publicly - punishing a few malcontents who complained - including the head of the Pharmaceutical Price Review C'tee here - about the excesses and threatening to buy elswhere.. yeh, like Mexico? They are gone. However, the control here is also the best in the world thanks to the reporting system for Medicare as it is called and They know exactly what every Doctor is doing all of the time, thanks to Oz computer innovations like Isys and advanced Data-balancing. E.G. An awful lot of GPs are now very much against willy-nilly vaccination - particularly of the young - but are not able to say much OR ELSE. They also can't simply stay quiet and not vaccinate the innocent, because it shows up instantly in the statistics breakdowns. ( More than a few have had warnings that I am aware of - and quickly, too.) Vaccinations are an in thing here today, making up for the losses on the HRT side. Himagain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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What this all means and should be apparent to any thinking person is, the internet is the same as going to a cocktail party and listening to everyone vent their personal opinions. Some people are sober, some not and some are just plain whacky. It would be rare to find any viewpoint that's not slanted and spun in some direction or the other. It's a great place to get ideas..any idea, no matter how half baked or paranoid, or valid in whatever respects...a lousy place to confirm them as true, complete and reasonable. The internet is a trash dump with treasures hidden it it...including forged treasures. Anything you 'want' to find can be found...but YOU are left to decide what's real and to what extent, as always. Good detective work. Ode At 10:57 AM 12/5/2004 -0800, you wrote: Hi There to all - I personally went into Santa Fe last week Thursday, and visited Whole Foods. I asked to speak to a Manager so that I could have confirmation on a situation I had heard about - was not able to speak to either as one was on vacation and the other in a meeting - however I spoke with two of the nutrition dept. floor managers, neither of them had any notion that the FDA had phoned or visited, and asked me where I had gotten my information - my reply was the Internet - this shocked them both, so we then discussed the CODEX situation at great length and what our collective futures may be in view of what had transpired or was about to transpire. I then went personally with them to the area where the Colloidal Silver was resplendent in all it's glory on the shelves - three Companies were represented and the products were in - nazal spray, throat spray, and dropper forms for purchase - so who knows what the truth is - personally I would like to think it is a scare tactic to see just how asleep the sheep are and what kind of a reaction can be expected when the axe falls next year - I do know that many of the small herb companies have been bought out by the Big Boys over the past two years, I know that one of the Big Boys has just opened a place in Utah to manufacture Colloidal Silver, and so my question to all is, Who is behind the supposed large alternative, herbal etc., shops, companies etc., which could possibly be the answer to why these guys not showing any alarm for the future ? I think that the best thing for those of us who are awake to do in view of what appears to be the future, is to become MDs so that we can open an office to write prescriptions for all of the drugs, herbs, vitamins, etc ., etc., this will be a real money earner !What say you all Sincerely Sandee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.5 - Release Date: 12/3/2004 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.289 / Virus Database: 265.4.6 - Release Date: 12/5/2004
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I love it - so now there is a daily average to be complied with Looks as if rapid downhill action has taken place since my trip over there last year !!! Well we just have to keep on laughing all the way to the bank ! Regards Sandee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Actually, bbanever, that's a very good point. If CODEX is really all it's cracked up to be, why isn't every vitamin company, especially the big ones, getting busy popularizing this problem so a real anti effort gets underway? I think I will start looking into this issue a little more, though. -Ken Bagwell - Original Message - From: bbanever To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 10:13 PM Subject: CSFDA, silver and CODEX MED - So true. The one saving grace in all of this is the fact that the natural foods, vitamin and supplement industry don't seem too concerned at the moment... I haven't seen any of them calling for action, petitions, or the like. Perhaps they know something we don't?
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Hi Ken, I tend to agree with you. When I first heard of Codex I was terrified but I went to my local (knowledgeable) health food store owner and asked her and she was not at all concerned. Why? Best Regards, Lea Ann Savage Satellite Beach, FL 321-773-7088 - Original Message - From: Ken Nancy To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 3:36 AM Subject: Re: CSFDA, silver and CODEX Actually, bbanever, that's a very good point. If CODEX is really all it's cracked up to be, why isn't every vitamin company, especially the big ones, getting busy popularizing this problem so a real anti effort gets underway? I think I will start looking into this issue a little more, though. -Ken Bagwell
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Hi gang, David writes: Your idea of fighting a situation that is disagreeable such as the vitamin issue simply by purchasing a gun is one of the reasons the powers that be are able to sneak these things in on the unsuspecting public. Our forefathers set up a system of voting people who spoke for us to make the laws so anything that happens is in the end our fault. We should first find out what the people we elected voted on the thing we don t likeand if he voted for it get rid of him/her and let them know why. Then, since our legal system and legislators might not care what the people think anymore then make sure you have the gun and ammo. But exhaust the system first. To which George quips: OK, you convinced me... Really George? LOL I ultimately agree with both of you. Unless you're engaged in individual advocacy and activism, right up until the bullets start flying, you can't really say you've done your part. But don't be fooled into thinking you can sit back while somebody else fights your battles for you. Every hand will be needed to man the barricades if that day ever comes to pass. That said, some folks have simply reached the conclusion that the system has already been exhausted and are waiting for the knock on the door to come out shootin'. I don't think that's true yet. Peace, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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The larger companies will make money on this, the little guy has not got the money to fight this. Each place will need a license for each product they sell that is IF they can sell anything as much will be prescriptions. I know that the health food store does not say much as she is trying to sell it. She figures that in a couple of years there will be very few health food stores left around. Louise -Original Message- From: bbanever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 1:14 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSFDA, silver and CODEX MED - So true. The one saving grace in all of this is the fact that the natural foods, vitamin and supplement industry don't seem too concerned at the moment... I haven't seen any of them calling for action, petitions, or the like. Perhaps they know something we don't?
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I was visiting a homeopathic lab this fall and they are busy with making applications for their mixture to be classified. They have lost some of the ingredients as they were taken away (sorry I do not recall which ones at the moment) But the government here in Canada was YEARS behind approving or looking into the remedies. They can not apply as a group for each mixture (many have the same ones) but each manufacturer needs to make the application singly. So there is a LOT of duplication in this process. In Canada it is too late to protest? I know that a good amount of this person's time is just doing paperwork getting applications in on time, but the government will take years for approvals!! Louise -Original Message- From: Ken Nancy [mailto:kena...@i680n.com] Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 3:36 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFDA, silver and CODEX Actually, bbanever, that's a very good point. If CODEX is really all it's cracked up to be, why isn't every vitamin company, especially the big ones, getting busy popularizing this problem so a real anti effort gets underway? I think I will start looking into this issue a little more, though. -Ken Bagwell - Original Message - From: bbanever To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 10:13 PM Subject: CSFDA, silver and CODEX MED - So true. The one saving grace in all of this is the fact that the natural foods, vitamin and supplement industry don't seem too concerned at the moment... I haven't seen any of them calling for action, petitions, or the like. Perhaps they know something we don't?
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Ken, Here are a couple of good places to start...the horses mouth as it were. A little bit of research will reveal that the commission began in 1963! Worldwide in 2005? I'm not how much more 'worldwide' it could be since the last commission had members from 160 countries. http://www.codexalimentarius.net/web/index_en.jsp# http://www.fsis.usda.gov/regulations__policies/Codex_Alimentarius/index.asp It seems that the folks making the loudest noises about this are the same folks who, when the Patriot Act was passed, placed themselves in cattle cars and sent themselves to the Gulag. Some folks live their lives in such fear that every little thing that can be extropolated into a personal threat drives them to near catatonia. This list contains more than its share of these types. Myself, I just buy another rifle and case of ammo. Then in the spring I find another neighbor who needs help putting in a garden. George --Original Message Text--- From: Ken Nancy Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 00:36:21 -0800 Actually, bbanever, that's a very good point. If CODEX is really all it's cracked up to be, why isn't every vitamin company, especially the big ones, getting busy popularizing this problem so a real anti effort gets underway? I think I will start looking into this issue a little more, though. -Ken Bagwell
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George: Your idea of fighting a situation that is disagreeable such as the vitamin issue simply by purchasing a gun is one of the reasons the powers that be.are able to sneak these things in on the unsuspecting public. Our forefathers set up a system of voting people who spoke for us to make the laws.so anything that happens is in the end our fault. We should first find out what the people we elected voted on the thing we don't like.and if he voted for it.get rid of him/her.and let them know why. Then, since our legal system and legislators might not care what the people think anymore.then make sure you have the gun..and ammo. But exhaust the system.first. Dr. Kenney _ From: George [mailto:in...@dragonbyte.net] Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 7:50 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFDA, silver and CODEX Ken, Here are a couple of good places to start...the horses mouth as it were. A little bit of research will reveal that the commission began in 1963! Worldwide in 2005? I'm not how much more 'worldwide' it could be since the last commission had members from 160 countries. http://www.codexalimentarius.net/web/index_en.jsp# http://www.fsis.usda.gov/regulations__policies/Codex_Alimentarius/index.asp It seems that the folks making the loudest noises about this are the same folks who, when the Patriot Act was passed, placed themselves in cattle cars and sent themselves to the Gulag. Some folks live their lives in such fear that every little thing that can be extropolated into a personal threat drives them to near catatonia. This list contains more than its share of these types. Myself, I just buy another rifle and case of ammo. Then in the spring I find another neighbor who needs help putting in a garden. George --Original Message Text--- From: Ken Nancy Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 00:36:21 -0800 Actually, bbanever, that's a very good point. If CODEX is really all it's cracked up to be, why isn't every vitamin company, especially the big ones, getting busy popularizing this problem so a real anti effort gets underway? I think I will start looking into this issue a little more, though. -Ken Bagwell
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OK, you convinced me... --Original Message Text--- From: David W Kenney Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 09:35:22 -0700 George: Your idea of fighting a situation that is disagreeable such as the vitamin issue simply by purchasing a gun is one of the reasons the powers that beare able to sneak these things in on the unsuspecting public. Our forefathers set up a system of voting people who spoke for us to make the lawsso anything that happens is in the end our fault. We should first find out what the people we elected voted on the thing we dont likeand if he voted for itget rid of him/herand let them know why. Then, since our legal system and legislators might not care what the people think anymorethen make sure you have the gun.and ammo. But exhaust the systemfirst. Dr. Kenney From: George [mailto:in...@dragonbyte.net] Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 7:50 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFDA, silver and CODEX Ken, Here are a couple of good places to start...the horses mouth as it were. A little bit of research will reveal that the commission began in 1963! Worldwide in 2005? I'm not how much more 'worldwide' it could be since the last commission had members from 160 countries. http://www.codexalimentarius.net/web/index_en.jsp# http://www.fsis.usda.gov/regulations__policies/Codex_Alimentarius/index.asp It seems that the folks making the loudest noises about this are the same folks who, when the Patriot Act was passed, placed themselves in cattle cars and sent themselves to the Gulag. Some folks live their lives in such fear that every little thing that can be extropolated into a personal threat drives them to near catatonia. This list contains more than its share of these types. Myself, I just buy another rifle and case of ammo. Then in the spring I find another neighbor who needs help putting in a garden. George --Original Message Text--- From: Ken Nancy Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 00:36:21 -0800 Actually, bbanever, that's a very good point. If CODEX is really all it's cracked up to be, why isn't every vitamin company, especially the big ones, getting busy popularizing this problem so a real anti effort gets underway? I think I will start looking into this issue a little more, though. -Ken Bagwell
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It seems to me that our founding fathers also wrote of something called bearing arms. I'm sure that some intelligent research into that area, and into the reasons why they wrote it, will lead to proper conclusions. Not that I own any arms mind you, but there is (in my opinion) sound reasoning behind the reasons that I could own them if I felt the need. -James Allison - Original Message - From: David W Kenney To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 9:35 AM Subject: RE: CSFDA, silver and CODEX George: Your idea of fighting a situation that is disagreeable such as the vitamin issue simply by purchasing a gun is one of the reasons the powers that be.are able to sneak these things in on the unsuspecting public. Our forefathers set up a system of voting people who spoke for us to make the laws.so anything that happens is in the end our fault. We should first find out what the people we elected voted on the thing we don't like.and if he voted for it.get rid of him/her.and let them know why. Then, since our legal system and legislators might not care what the people think anymore.then make sure you have the gun..and ammo. But exhaust the system.first. Dr. Kenney -- From: George [mailto:in...@dragonbyte.net] Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 7:50 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFDA, silver and CODEX Ken, Here are a couple of good places to start...the horses mouth as it were. A little bit of research will reveal that the commission began in 1963! Worldwide in 2005? I'm not how much more 'worldwide' it could be since the last commission had members from 160 countries. http://www.codexalimentarius.net/web/index_en.jsp# http://www.fsis.usda.gov/regulations__policies/Codex_Alimentarius/index.asp It seems that the folks making the loudest noises about this are the same folks who, when the Patriot Act was passed, placed themselves in cattle cars and sent themselves to the Gulag. Some folks live their lives in such fear that every little thing that can be extropolated into a personal threat drives them to near catatonia. This list contains more than its share of these types. Myself, I just buy another rifle and case of ammo. Then in the spring I find another neighbor who needs help putting in a garden. George --Original Message Text--- From: Ken Nancy Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 00:36:21 -0800 Actually, bbanever, that's a very good point. If CODEX is really all it's cracked up to be, why isn't every vitamin company, especially the big ones, getting busy popularizing this problem so a real anti effort gets underway? I think I will start looking into this issue a little more, though. -Ken Bagwell
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Ken, I hope you're right about the supp companies knowing something we don't...but in this climate of constant fraud and manipulation, vigilance is the only chance we have to prevent at least some of the corruption. we are losing our freedoms right and left, [no pun intended] and I am always concerned when I see things like this...I don't know much about the supp industry but I don't feel safe in assuming that they are in control of the situation when it comes to being up against the pharma-corp-giants. That being said, however, it is true that the supp industry has grown huge in its own right and it is possible that they will be able to fight to protect their interests...but when all is said and done, I think the industry itself is too new to be able to have gained sufficient power and influence among the government and politicians to effectively fight the drug-medico industry...and I sincerely hope I'm wrong on this...I've just seen too much to trust that the right thing will happen anymore ;( Ah well, one can always hope... Marnie - Original Message - From: Ken Nancy To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 3:36 AM Subject: Re: CSFDA, silver and CODEX Actually, bbanever, that's a very good point. If CODEX is really all it's cracked up to be, why isn't every vitamin company, especially the big ones, getting busy popularizing this problem so a real anti effort gets underway? I think I will start looking into this issue a little more, though. -Ken Bagwell - Original Message - From: bbanever To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 10:13 PM Subject: CSFDA, silver and CODEX MED - So true. The one saving grace in all of this is the fact that the natural foods, vitamin and supplement industry don't seem too concerned at the moment... I haven't seen any of them calling for action, petitions, or the like. Perhaps they know something we don't?
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Hi There to all - I personally went into Santa Fe last week Thursday, and visited Whole Foods. I asked to speak to a Manager so that I could have confirmation on a situation I had heard about - was not able to speak to either as one was on vacation and the other in a meeting - however I spoke with two of the nutrition dept. floor managers, neither of them had any notion that the FDA had phoned or visited, and asked me where I had gotten my information - my reply was the Internet - this shocked them both, so we then discussed the CODEX situation at great length and what our collective futures may be in view of what had transpired or was about to transpire. I then went personally with them to the area where the Colloidal Silver was resplendent in all it's glory on the shelves - three Companies were represented and the products were in - nazal spray, throat spray, and dropper forms for purchase - so who knows what the truth is - personally I would like to think it is a scare tactic to see just how asleep the sheep are and what kind of a reaction can be expected when the axe falls next year - I do know that many of the small herb companies have been bought out by the Big Boys over the past two years, I know that one of the Big Boys has just opened a place in Utah to manufacture Colloidal Silver, and so my question to all is, Who is behind the supposed large alternative, herbal etc., shops, companies etc., which could possibly be the answer to why these guys not showing any alarm for the future ? I think that the best thing for those of us who are awake to do in view of what appears to be the future, is to become MDs so that we can open an office to write prescriptions for all of the drugs, herbs, vitamins, etc ., etc., this will be a real money earner !What say you all Sincerely Sandee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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At 04:57 AM 06/12/04, you wrote: Hi There to all - I personally went into Santa Fe last week Thursday, and visited Whole Foods. I think that the best thing for those of us who are awake to do in view of what appears to be the future, is to become MDs so that we can open an office to write prescriptions for all of the drugs, herbs, vitamins, etc ., etc., this will be a real money earner !What say you all Sincerely Sandee Hi Sandee folks, They are already one-up on this: I don't know about the US scene, but I do know the UK and Aus scene where the reporting requirements and data balancing ( sigh - another Oz invention for the baddies) quickly bring a big hammer down on the heads of any MD not keeping up to prescription-writing averages. Himagain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Mr. himagain, could you give us more info on this mds not keeping up with prescription-writing averages. i've assumed that you are in australia, correcto??? jim himagain wrote: At 04:57 AM 06/12/04, you wrote: Hi There to all - I personally went into Santa Fe last week Thursday, and visited Whole Foods. I think that the best thing for those of us who are awake to do in view of what appears to be the future, is to become MDs so that we can open an office to write prescriptions for all of the drugs, herbs, vitamins, etc ., etc., this will be a real money earner !What say you all Sincerely Sandee Hi Sandee folks, They are already one-up on this: I don't know about the US scene, but I do know the UK and Aus scene where the reporting requirements and data balancing ( sigh - another Oz invention for the baddies) quickly bring a big hammer down on the heads of any MD not keeping up to prescription-writing averages. Himagain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Ken and Nancy, The FDA can and will ban whatever supplement they like, should they choose to do so. More than likely they will limit the dosages one can buy/consume to very low levels. EG... the maximum amount of Vit.C might be 100mg/tab. We must never, ever let the FDA or any other governmental agency dictate what we can and cannot consume as long as it is relatively safe. Since we are not consuming these food additives as medicines or drugs we do not have to prove efficacy for any disease... to do so would be to invite the wrath of the pharmaceutical industry claiming we are indeed selling drugs for specific illnesses. In an impartial court I don't think the FDA would have any right to ban or regulate vitamins, minerals, enzymes, or other natural substances that are found in nature and not patentable, but finding an impartial judge/court might be a problem, especially with our freedoms eroding daily in other areas of our lives.
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MED - So true. The one saving grace in all of this is the fact that the natural foods, vitamin and supplement industry don't seem too concerned at the moment... I haven't seen any of them calling for action, petitions, or the like. Perhaps they know something we don't?
