CSGout flare up
I am in the middle of a gout flare up concentrated in my knee. Could not walk or even lift my leg. First flare up in 15 years. I made 3 gallons of apple juice and it was turning hard. I stopped drinking my magnesium/seltzer and drank apple juice. Two days of this and gout flared. ER prescribed Colcrys which really helped. I was controlling gout by taking B6 and magnesium. Hard to believe that a gout flare up was so close. Last flare up was caused by drinking wine on sale when I was winter camping near Los Angeles. Had to drive towing my trailer in LA traffic with using only one leg. I think the latest flare up was not caused by hard cider but neglecting my daily magnesium drink. Brickey If you suspect gout, try to avoid foods with purines, like sardines, shrimp, smoked oysters, etc. That's what brought mine on. Be well, Léna
Re: CSGout flare up
Brickey... I guess you have heard that cherries can help with a gout attack, fresh, canned or cherry extract in pill form. They say gout is very painful. I am so sorry for your suffering. I hope it is resolved quickly. :) Lola H. On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:23 PM, brick...@aol.com wrote: ** I am in the middle of a gout flare up concentrated in my knee. Could not walk or even lift my leg. First flare up in 15 years. I made 3 gallons of apple juice and it was turning hard. I stopped drinking my magnesium/seltzer and drank apple juice. Two days of this and gout flared. ER prescribed Colcrys which really helped. I was controlling gout by taking B6 and magnesium. Hard to believe that a gout flare up was so close. Last flare up was caused by drinking wine on sale when I was winter camping near Los Angeles. Had to drive towing my trailer in LA traffic with using only one leg. I think the latest flare up was not caused by hard cider but neglecting my daily magnesium drink. Brickey If you suspect gout, try to avoid foods with purines, like sardines, shrimp, smoked oysters, etc. That's what brought mine on. Be well, Léna
Re: CSGout flare up
Yes - and please know ANY cherry jiuce will do - like it doesn't have to be sour cherries - just any cherries .. - Original Message - From: phoenix23002 tds.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 4:35 AM Subject: Re: CSGout flare up Brickey... I guess you have heard that cherries can help with a gout attack, fresh, canned or cherry extract in pill form. They say gout is very painful. I am so sorry for your suffering. I hope it is resolved quickly. :) Lola H. On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:23 PM, brick...@aol.com wrote: I am in the middle of a gout flare up concentrated in my knee. Could not walk or even lift my leg. First flare up in 15 years. I made 3 gallons of apple juice and it was turning hard. I stopped drinking my magnesium/seltzer and drank apple juice. Two days of this and gout flared. ER prescribed Colcrys which really helped. I was controlling gout by taking B6 and magnesium. Hard to believe that a gout flare up was so close. Last flare up was caused by drinking wine on sale when I was winter camping near Los Angeles. Had to drive towing my trailer in LA traffic with using only one leg. I think the latest flare up was not caused by hard cider but neglecting my daily magnesium drink. Brickey If you suspect gout, try to avoid foods with purines, like sardines, shrimp, smoked oysters, etc. That's what brought mine on. Be well, Léna No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5322 - Release Date: 10/10/12
Re: CSGout flare up
i have had gout for thirty years...fought it with everything i could research...but in the end, the only thing that for sure prevents more attacks is allopurinol. lagoon - Original Message - From: brick...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 2:23 PM Subject: CSGout flare up I am in the middle of a gout flare up concentrated in my knee. Could not walk or even lift my leg. First flare up in 15 years. I made 3 gallons of apple juice and it was turning hard. I stopped drinking my magnesium/seltzer and drank apple juice. Two days of this and gout flared. ER prescribed Colcrys which really helped. I was controlling gout by taking B6 and magnesium. Hard to believe that a gout flare up was so close. Last flare up was caused by drinking wine on sale when I was winter camping near Los Angeles. Had to drive towing my trailer in LA traffic with using only one leg. I think the latest flare up was not caused by hard cider but neglecting my daily magnesium drink. Brickey If you suspect gout, try to avoid foods with purines, like sardines, shrimp, smoked oysters, etc. That's what brought mine on. Be well, Léna No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2677 / Virus Database: 2591/5822 - Release Date: 10/10/12
Re: CSGout flare up
What a challenge! My (nursing) patient with gout (since she was on Lasix (Frusemide) I considered it to be chronic dehydration) but I bought her 6 litres of cherry juice and on 30mL twice a day within a week her gout had gone, she denied ever having it - refused to take the cherry juice further, since she didn't need it, and then said it hadn't worked since the pain came back - I managed to get her to continue the regime once more but after a repeat of that rationale I gave up as she asked me not to come again! It is a matter of persistence and coping with the over 90 mentality!! Apart from cherry juice I would like to see what impact a litre of pure water with a squeeze of fresh lemon juice every morning before breakfast might have on your condition. Allopurinol is not a nice drug. Jane - Original Message - From: Ross Craig To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:33 PM Subject: Re: CSGout flare up i have had gout for thirty years...fought it with everything i could research...but in the end, the only thing that for sure prevents more attacks is allopurinol. lagoon - Original Message - From: brick...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 2:23 PM Subject: CSGout flare up I am in the middle of a gout flare up concentrated in my knee. Could not walk or even lift my leg. First flare up in 15 years. I made 3 gallons of apple juice and it was turning hard. I stopped drinking my magnesium/seltzer and drank apple juice. Two days of this and gout flared. ER prescribed Colcrys which really helped. I was controlling gout by taking B6 and magnesium. Hard to believe that a gout flare up was so close. Last flare up was caused by drinking wine on sale when I was winter camping near Los Angeles. Had to drive towing my trailer in LA traffic with using only one leg. I think the latest flare up was not caused by hard cider but neglecting my daily magnesium drink. Brickey If you suspect gout, try to avoid foods with purines, like sardines, shrimp, smoked oysters, etc. That's what brought mine on. Be well, Léna No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2677 / Virus Database: 2591/5822 - Release Date: 10/10/12 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5324 - Release Date: 10/11/12
Re: CSGout flare up
Hi Jane, FWIW, I'd been routinely taking pure water with a squeeze of lemon, when I suddenly had a gout flare-up, so I'm not sure that its alkalizing effects had much benefit on the condition. (also fairly routinely use Alka-seltzer Gold whenever I'm herxing from killing Lyme) Tart cherry backed the gout symptoms off very quickly. I used Knudsens's tart cherry concentrate, diluted. Then, when traveling made things harder to get and store, I used tart cherry capsules and haven't had any trouble since. I even occasionally eat things containing purines, but sparingly.(but then, I'd never had gout symptoms until this year.) Be well, Léna On Oct 11, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Jane MacRoss wrote: What a challenge! My (nursing) patient with gout (since she was on Lasix (Frusemide) I considered it to be chronic dehydration) but I bought her 6 litres of cherry juice and on 30mL twice a day within a week her gout had gone, she denied ever having it - refused to take the cherry juice further, since she didn't need it, and then said it hadn't worked since the pain came back - I managed to get her to continue the regime once more but after a repeat of that rationale I gave up as she asked me not to come again! It is a matter of persistence and coping with the over 90 mentality!! Apart from cherry juice I would like to see what impact a litre of pure water with a squeeze of fresh lemon juice every morning before breakfast might have on your condition. Allopurinol is not a nice drug. Jane - Original Message - From: Ross Craig To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:33 PM Subject: Re: CSGout flare up i have had gout for thirty years...fought it with everything i could research...but in the end, the only thing that for sure prevents more attacks is allopurinol. lagoon - Original Message - From: brick...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 2:23 PM Subject: CSGout flare up I am in the middle of a gout flare up concentrated in my knee. Could not walk or even lift my leg. First flare up in 15 years. I made 3 gallons of apple juice and it was turning hard. I stopped drinking my magnesium/seltzer and drank apple juice. Two days of this and gout flared. ER prescribed Colcrys which really helped. I was controlling gout by taking B6 and magnesium. Hard to believe that a gout flare up was so close. Last flare up was caused by drinking wine on sale when I was winter camping near Los Angeles. Had to drive towing my trailer in LA traffic with using only one leg. I think the latest flare up was not caused by hard cider but neglecting my daily magnesium drink. Brickey If you suspect gout, try to avoid foods with purines, like sardines, shrimp, smoked oysters, etc. That's what brought mine on. Be well, Léna No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2677 / Virus Database: 2591/5822 - Release Date: 10/10/12 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5324 - Release Date: 10/11/12
Re: CSGout flare up/cherry juice grape query
Like everything else gout is, I imagine, an individual thing - my local cherry juice supplier ($15/L) told me that people come to visit their orchards from all over the world and follow the cherry season (seems extreme but this is what she told me) theirs is ordinary cherry juice and it cured my patient. I love to eat the Polish bottled sour cherries we get here, perhaps this stops me having this problem. Lemon in water doesn't make anything worse for us either as far as I can see. Did you use chemical free water and was it an organic lemon? I use both of these for this drink. Also can you advise me I have been buying US seedless grapes for my husband who loves grapes, they come with a warning that there might be residual sulphates on the grapes - although I wash them thoroughly I wondered about GM qualities of US produce? Thanks Lena Jane - Original Message - From: Lena Guyot To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 2:26 PM Subject: Re: CSGout flare up Hi Jane, FWIW, I'd been routinely taking pure water with a squeeze of lemon, when I suddenly had a gout flare-up, so I'm not sure that its alkalizing effects had much benefit on the condition. (also fairly routinely use Alka-seltzer Gold whenever I'm herxing from killing Lyme) Tart cherry backed the gout symptoms off very quickly. I used Knudsens's tart cherry concentrate, diluted. Then, when traveling made things harder to get and store, I used tart cherry capsules and haven't had any trouble since. I even occasionally eat things containing purines, but sparingly.(but then, I'd never had gout symptoms until this year.) Be well, Léna On Oct 11, 2012, at 11:14 PM, Jane MacRoss wrote: What a challenge! My (nursing) patient with gout (since she was on Lasix (Frusemide) I considered it to be chronic dehydration) but I bought her 6 litres of cherry juice and on 30mL twice a day within a week her gout had gone, she denied ever having it - refused to take the cherry juice further, since she didn't need it, and then said it hadn't worked since the pain came back - I managed to get her to continue the regime once more but after a repeat of that rationale I gave up as she asked me not to come again! It is a matter of persistence and coping with the over 90 mentality!! Apart from cherry juice I would like to see what impact a litre of pure water with a squeeze of fresh lemon juice every morning before breakfast might have on your condition. Allopurinol is not a nice drug. Jane - Original Message - From: Ross Craig To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 12:33 PM Subject: Re: CSGout flare up i have had gout for thirty years...fought it with everything i could research...but in the end, the only thing that for sure prevents more attacks is allopurinol. lagoon - Original Message - From: brick...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2012 2:23 PM Subject: CSGout flare up I am in the middle of a gout flare up concentrated in my knee. Could not walk or even lift my leg. First flare up in 15 years. I made 3 gallons of apple juice and it was turning hard. I stopped drinking my magnesium/seltzer and drank apple juice. Two days of this and gout flared. ER prescribed Colcrys which really helped. I was controlling gout by taking B6 and magnesium. Hard to believe that a gout flare up was so close. Last flare up was caused by drinking wine on sale when I was winter camping near Los Angeles. Had to drive towing my trailer in LA traffic with using only one leg. I think the latest flare up was not caused by hard cider but neglecting my daily magnesium drink. Brickey If you suspect gout, try to avoid foods with purines, like sardines, shrimp, smoked oysters, etc. That's what brought mine on. Be well, Léna No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2677 / Virus Database: 2591/5822 - Release Date: 10/10/12 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5324 - Release Date: 10/11/12 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5324 - Release Date: 10/11/12
Re: CSGout
Willie. Tell them to get some cherry juice. That relieves the pain. Gout is very connected to diet. Paula - Original Message - From: wsims21...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 9:33 PM Subject: CSGout Hi There: I would like for someone to tell me how to ease Gout. Will the SW take care of the problem? If so what are the dosages? My aunt has Gout bad. Please give me some idea on how to help her. Thanks in advance. Willie -- Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos.
Re: CSGout
Re: gout When my husband get this he soaks his foot in apple cider vinegar, it takes a few days. Mary -- Original message from wsims21...@aol.com: -- Hi There: I would like for someone to tell me how to ease Gout. Will the SW take care of the problem? If so what are the dosages? My aunt has Gout bad. Please give me some idea on how to help her. Thanks in advance. Willie Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos.
CSGOUT Montmorency Yucca silver-digest Digest V2008 #483
Yummo! S-Max ---Original Message--- From: JD Kalloco Date: 8/16/2008 2:55:10 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: GOUT Montmorency Yucca silver-digest Digest V2008 #483 Willie, Tart Montmorency cherries not only taste great, but offer outstanding health benefits. I purchase 10 lb boxes of dried sugar free Montmorency cherries from Michigan, NY, etc. for year 'round use. Instead of raisins, we prefer dried cherries. I add dried cherries to our daily treat: Homemade authentic kefir containing 50 to 60 probiotics ... Chopped walnuts, Organic Wild Blueberries (purchase frozen for 365 day availability) and/or raspberry /or organic strawberry TART Cherry: dried ... fresh ... or liquid concentrate (low temperature process) Diced Fuji apple, pear, mango, fresh pineapple, Miradol Papaya (easy to grow in Southern States), etc. Organic unsulphured dark molasses- drizzled on top Dash of cinnamon 1/4 cup of Freshly ground FLAXSEED use a coffee grinder ... I prefer a half cup! JDK -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSGout
Hi There: I would like for someone to tell me how to ease Gout. Will the SW take care of the problem? If so what are the dosages? My aunt has Gout bad. Please give me some idea on how to help her. Thanks in advance. Willie **Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/cars-Volkswagen-Jetta-2009/expert-review?ncid=aolaut000307 )
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Hi There: I would like for someone to tell me how to ease Gout. Willie Here's some info on gout= http://askwaltstollmd.com/archives/goute.html http://www.earthclinic.com/CURES/gout.html Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSGout, C S treatable?
Gout is not a single disease entity, but rather the result of kidney damage from any of a number of potential causes, which can be infectious,nutritional, toxic, or possibly a combination offactors.Gout is not a single disease entity, but rather the result of kidney damage from any of a number of potential causes, which can be infectious,nutritional, toxic, or possibly a combination offactors.Gout is not a single disease entity, but rather the result of kidney damage from any of a number of potential causes, which can be infectious,nutritional, toxic, or possibly a combination offactorshttp://www.goutpal.com/uric-acid-causes.html http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:4kKoVcn643oJ:www.hy-line.com/userdocs/library/0_Avian%2520Urolithiasis%2520Eng.pdf+gout+virushl=enct=clnkcd=12 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSGout, C S treatable?
Hello to my beloved C S circle! Since the breaking news about the treatment and cure of cancer-in-the-tongue and C S that did it, I take the audacity to ask a few questions about gout. * Is it treatable with C S ( I should hardly think so, gout is not viral or bacterial, but then again: is tongue-cancer?) * More important: Am I rightly informed that gout comes with a wrong Ph balance? Is the body too acid, when there is talk of gout (like with rheumatism?) * Is one approach then: change the diet? (the couple in question, where the husband is treated with Reiki by the wife, follow a natural diet, according to her). * The wife says –on my question about the Ph balance- ‘yes it is gout, the Ph was checked by the doctor, and he said it is gout.’ All right, but that does not answer my question as to the acidity of the body. Thanks once again, Greeting you all (hey! I took off my automatic reply .. had a LOT of problems with this machine!) Faith Behold that turtle! He makes NO progress at all When his head is in. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSgout and calcium/silver
Hi Betsy! There's alot more I could add regarding Natural Immunogenics Argentyn 23, particles vs. ions, Mesosilver, etc. but I think at the moment the technical debate has reached a level of saturation, and I'm about 35 emails behind currently ( half-written in my drafts folder! ). I've been asked by several off-list if I personally felt that it is worth the added expense to purchase lab grade silver, in situations where money IS an issue, but health is more of an issue. Generally speaking, my opinion is that Trem ( Silvergen ) and Ken ( SilverPuppy ) generators, as well as a few other quality retail CS generators, do quite nicely, in nearly every circumstance. Stephen Quinto of Natural Immunogenics has been attacked on list recently because he has been quoted as stating a product dosage of 8 ounces is required, which is an unqualified misquote. Keep in mind that Natural Immunogenics is an ethical company, and therefore pays to have a medical director on staff. Perhaps some may consider this expense profit thrown away, as well as the hundreds of studies privately done, both in-house and in collaboration with a few universities, and with private in-vivo trial runs out of country. I'd like to state that this dosage level is an MD recommended dosage level to help an individual achieve maximum titration with minimum risk. 2 ounces of CS taken each liver cycle ie every four hours. Stephen Quinto didn't make this up based on his product, it's what more than one MD has determined, and it is not partial to product type, it's how MD's are used to determining how much of a drug to administer in order to keep an effective therapeutic dose circulating in the system. Silver ions kill pathogens, silver ions are soley responsible for the tissue healing properties that have been documented by science. However, in the end analysis, the chemical understanding of the difference between nano-sized ( picoscalar ) particles is not sufficient. I believe that in order to understand what happens with EIS, we'll need to enter the realm of quantum mechanics. As an example, Marshall recently expounded on the efficacy of H2O2/silver. I once got in very nice friendly debate with an entire industry that swears that h2o2 will cause silver to precipitate out of solution. The silver reclamation industry uses H2O2 to remove silver from fluids. After pondering the data that I studied, I concluded that EIS, containing minute particles and ions, must have different properties than a purely ionic solution. It's the only thing that fit all of the facts. Now let's get to Mesosilver. Mesosilver is an interesting product, and it deserves further study. I'm not a Mesosilver expert, and my current opinion is that Frank isn't either. I've been studying true colloids for twelve years. To give Frank credit, they are not easy to study, nor are they easy to understand. It is very easy to think you understand, and miss an entire universe of data. Let me give you an example. An Illite colloid used externally can cure some conditions that, prior to experimentation, were considered uncurable, such as Buruli Ulcerations. However, when microbiologists and chemists did culture time kill studies with an Illite colloid, they found that bacteria proliferated quite nicely in Illite. Therefore, they were left without a direct method of action to explain the documented cures. Colloids are beautiful mysteries. It's my current opinion, based on experience and intuition ( not necessarily scientific proof ), that particulate colloids have an action on the liver that is quite different than any other type of substance. Is this tied to the zeta-potential or surface charge of the particles? The shape of the particles, the complexity of the charge layers, the tendency for negatively charged substances to self-organize based on environmental variables? More than one PHD has looked at the action of a true colloid, and said: That is not possible!. I will state the reports that I've received from Mesosilver users are very impressive with liver-based disease, particularly Hepatitis C. However, correlating the information is difficult, if not impossible, as there are so many differences between individuals using various products. I have received two reports of individuals having success with Mesosilver, and not having success with home-generated products. HOWEVER, I was not able to get enough cooperation from the individuals making the reports to form any reasonable conclusions. The reports have been too generalized, and follow up work takes at least a little bit of cooperation! Such as, how often a product was used, method of generation, time use, etc. It's not unusual for measured viral counts to spike temporarily even during effective treatment. So I certainly don't put any time into negativity with Mesosilver, because I have no reason to. Concerning ASAP and other similiar products? I'm just very happy when users contact me and share
CSGout
I have a friend suffering from gout - he says it flares up a couple of times a year. I'm not so sure that CS can help with his problem, but hoped some of you could give some insight/guidance while I try to do a web search. Any and all opinions will be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance!! Ruth
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Hi Have seen sour red cherries, water packed, one-third a can a day relieve gout pain in feet. It's also very good for arthritis. Very inexpensive and no drugs. Should be worth a try. Betty FT. Lauderdale -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSGout
Have you tried apple cider vinegar for gout. I have! First warm the vinegar as hot as you can stand it and soak feet for about 20 minutes. Save vinegar to warm again later. Hugh Boggs, Michigan
CSgout
Anyone know of anything that alleviates Gout? My friends Dad has it. I told her he needs to cut down on red meat, and alcohol? Anything else? Tracy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSgout
Black Cherry juice is said to work well for gout. Gary - Original Message - From: Nick Grant nwgr...@inet.net.nz To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2001 2:49 AM Subject: CSgout Anyone know of anything that alleviates Gout? My friends Dad has it. I told her he needs to cut down on red meat, and alcohol? Anything else? Tracy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSgout
Is gout not normally caused by a lacking of iodine. I though the treatment for gout was to add some iodine to the diet. Marshall Nick Grant wrote: Anyone know of anything that alleviates Gout? My friends Dad has it. I told her he needs to cut down on red meat, and alcohol? Anything else? Tracy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hello Marshall, Thursday, June 14, 2001, 10:39:16 AM, you wrote: MD Is gout not normally caused by a lacking of iodine. I though the treatment MD for gout was to add some iodine to the diet. MD Marshall Marshall: You are thinking of goiter. Gout is something entirely different. -- Best regards, Solarmailto:so...@neo.rr.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSGout
This post is for Nick Grant and his father's gout. A very effective remedy which I have personally witnessed on several occasions curing gout is to eat 15-20 cherries a day. Fresh cherries are best but, if not in season, canned cherries are ok. Maraschino cherries are not a good substitute. As is the case with nearly all natural remedies, do not expect overnight miracles. It may take a couple of weeks. Don't give up. Besides, cherries taste good. Gout is a condition that is caused when uric acid crystals from in the fluid surrounding a joint. Cherries apparently have a substance that dissolves these crystals, thereby giving relief. A number of years back my mother had gout so bad that she was unable to walk, even around the house. Her daily routine consisted of getting out of bed and making her way to the sofa, where she stayed all day except to eat and go to the bathroom. After doing the research on natural methods, I suggested she eat 15-20 cherries a day. Her response was: Do you know how much cherries are in the store? Being my mother, I just went out and bought whatever cherries she needed and cured her gout. If it were not my mother, I probably would have asked: Just how many cherries can you buy with the money you spent on the prescription-and the prescription did not work!. Nuff said. God luck and God bless. Please post the results. Ralph -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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The only help I really have is a prescription drug called Allopurinol. I take 300 mg per day. My Doc. says that it is one of the good drugs with very few side effects. I tried the cherry juice, fresh cherries, an herb from a leaf that supposed to reduce uric acid, folic acid and none worked good enough to bring my Uric acid level down below 8. I even planted 9 cherry trees. Using my Cs to try to keep them free of fungus infections. So far this year my cherry and peach trees are loaded with the gum ball fungus (pseudomonias)? I have been spraying 100% Cs on the bark and leaves and one tree actually lost 1/2 of its limbs to the fungus. Last year I sprayed 1 ounce of Cs to a gallon of water and that seemed to work great. The rain must have a lot to spread the fungus. This is a pretty wet spring in the NW. The high Uric acid which causes my gout also causes kidney stones. DR Clark says that a low Uric acid level can indicate Cancer. Does a high level indicate no Cancer? Brickey
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My info says that Black Cherry juice,organic,is the best ;but doesn't say why. Harold
Re: CS*** CSGout/alkalife?
Deb, I have no idea why this would occur. There is nothing in Alkalife other than potassium and sodium, both essential minerals, and a surplus of hydroxyl ions. Two drops of the alkaline booster furnish about 50 mg of potassium (daily requirement 1000 mg) and 98 mg of sodium (3000 mg). The hydroxyl ions add to the over-all body alkalinity. Were you or are you on a strict no salt diet? I certainly have no reaction at all on taking these drops, nor have I heard of one. Ivan. - Original Message - From: Debbie McDonald lullw...@flash.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, 27 December 1999 06:26 Subject: CS*** CSGout/alkalife? Ivan Anderson wrote: Eating fruit, as Robert said, will help because of the potassium it contains, but probably the best way to alleviate gout is to drink alkaline water. That is, water supplemented with alkaline drops, such as Alkalife www.alkalife.com . These drops contain a diluted mixture potassium hydroxide and sodium hydroxide in the appropriate ratio, the extra water will also help. When I tried these drops they made my heart RACE. It was scarey, since I am deficient in minerals and especially mag/pot, what do you think is going on?? Deb -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CS*** CSGout/alkalife?
Ivan Anderson wrote: Deb, I have no idea why this would occur. There is nothing in Alkalife other than potassium and sodium, both essential minerals, and a surplus of hydroxyl ions. Two drops of the alkaline booster furnish about 50 mg of potassium (daily requirement 1000 mg) and 98 mg of sodium (3000 mg). The hydroxyl ions add to the over-all body alkalinity. Were you or are you on a strict no salt diet? No salt restriction, in fact, I tested LOW on salt, doc said he had never seen anyone that was deficient in salt:). I am a freak. I have trouble treating my problems as I react to some things. Example, amino acids taken as supplements tend to give me a reaction like a very nasty adrenaline surge, that goes one for too long Deb -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
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I have been reading the book biological transmtations. I had no idea that there was so much proof that life can so easily convert elements to other elements. It turns out that the body converts sodium to potassium when you are getting into hyperthermia, so maybe there is a biological basis to a sweat lodge after all other than sweating out the toxins. Marshall D G wrote: yes it is h Dennis Subject: RE: CSGout Resent-Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 18:55:20 -0800 Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 19:18:06 -0800 From: Vilik Rapheles vi...@peak.org Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com References: 001c01bf4f94$10054c40$13a93...@ivan At 08:01 PM 12/26/99 -0500, you wrote: I am continually amazed at this list. Every cure must be purchased. Like nutrition cures nothing, but a supplement can and will cure anything. It's a wonder we lived long enough to populate the earth without supplements. Robert ~~ Ah com'on Robert...this is the list where people make silver! Nutrition...high potassium foods include black strap molasses, potatoes, tomato or V8 juice, bananas http://www.Krispin.com/index.htp Good info on potassium and potassium rich foods. [note: the body cannot hold onto or utilize potassium without magnesium] There is a herbal supplement on the net specific to gout...search for it...(don't have info any more...) ~^^V^^~ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
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At 01:12 PM 12/27/99 -0500, you wrote: I have been reading the book biological transmtations. I had no idea that there was so much proof that life can so easily convert elements to other elements. It turns out that the body converts sodium to potassium when you are getting into hyperthermia, so maybe there is a biological basis to a sweat lodge after all other than sweating out the toxins. Marshall ~~ You mean...a tablespoon of blackstrap molasses and a banana, and I don't have to sweat? ~^^V^^~ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
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did i read that gout is also caused by a microbe? CS could not hurt. consuming copious amounts of black cherry juice is effective to block uric acid. jd -Original Message- From: GaryJanine garyjan...@email.msn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, December 25, 1999 6:18 PM Subject: CSGout Does anyone have any experience with gout? My Mom has gout on her toe and I was wondering how/if cs could help. Thanks garyjan...@msn.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net __ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
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- Original Message - From: GaryJanine garyjan...@email.msn.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, 26 December 1999 13:18 Subject: CSGout Does anyone have any experience with gout? My Mom has gout on her toe and I was wondering how/if cs could help. Thanks garyjan...@msn.com Hi, == Gout is one of the oldest recorded diseases in medical history. It is a form of arthritis which is characterized by sudden, severe attacks of pain and tenderness in joints. Gout usually affects the large joint of the big toe but can also occur in other joints such as the knees, ankles, hands and wrists. Gout is associated with too much uric acid in the blood. This can be caused either by excess production of uric acid or by decreased excretion of it. Needle-like crystals of a salt of uric acid deposit in a joint and surrounding tissues causing pain, swelling and, in some cases, destruction of the joint. Uric acid is formed from the breakdown of substances called purines. Purines are found naturally in our bodies as well as in certain foods. Foods high in purines include organ meats (liver, brains, kidney and sweetbreads), anchovies, herring and mackerel. Smaller amounts are found in all meats, fish and poultry. == The body will cause waste acids to be precipitated from the blood in order to maintain its alkaline pH level, if they are not neutralised and eliminated in the urine === Webster defines uric acid as a white colorless crystalline substance found in urine, being one of the products of nuclein metabolism. It is nearly insoluble in water, alcohol, and ether, but soluble in solutions of alkaline salts. Here also, potassium will work better than calcium. Many people reported relief from gout (which is caused by uric acid) after drinking alkaline water. Eating fruit, as Robert said, will help because of the potassium it contains, but probably the best way to alleviate gout is to drink alkaline water. That is, water supplemented with alkaline drops, such as Alkalife www.alkalife.com . These drops contain a diluted mixture potassium hydroxide and sodium hydroxide in the appropriate ratio, the extra water will also help. These alkaline salts will dissolve the uric acid precipitations and relieve the symptoms. One might also consider using a pure sun dried sea salt rather than ordinary table salt, this also helps dissolve acid precipitation, will aid in digestion and has numerous other benefits. Regards Ivan. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CS*** CSGout/alkalife?
Ivan Anderson wrote: Eating fruit, as Robert said, will help because of the potassium it contains, but probably the best way to alleviate gout is to drink alkaline water. That is, water supplemented with alkaline drops, such as Alkalife www.alkalife.com . These drops contain a diluted mixture potassium hydroxide and sodium hydroxide in the appropriate ratio, the extra water will also help. When I tried these drops they made my heart RACE. It was scarey, since I am deficient in minerals and especially mag/pot, what do you think is going on?? Deb -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
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I am continually amazed at this list. Every cure must be purchased. Like nutrition cures nothing, but a supplement can and will cure anything. It's a wonder we lived long enough to populate the earth without supplements. Robert = Eating fruit, as Robert said, will help because of the potassium it contains, but probably the best way to alleviate gout is to drink alkaline water. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
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yes it is h Dennis ---BeginMessage--- At 08:01 PM 12/26/99 -0500, you wrote: I am continually amazed at this list. Every cure must be purchased. Like nutrition cures nothing, but a supplement can and will cure anything. It's a wonder we lived long enough to populate the earth without supplements. Robert ~~ Ah com'on Robert...this is the list where people make silver! Nutrition...high potassium foods include black strap molasses, potatoes, tomato or V8 juice, bananas http://www.Krispin.com/index.htp Good info on potassium and potassium rich foods. [note: the body cannot hold onto or utilize potassium without magnesium] There is a herbal supplement on the net specific to gout...search for it...(don't have info any more...) ~^^V^^~ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net ---End Message---
RE: CSGout
At 08:01 PM 12/26/99 -0500, you wrote: I am continually amazed at this list. Every cure must be purchased. Like nutrition cures nothing, but a supplement can and will cure anything. It's a wonder we lived long enough to populate the earth without supplements. Robert ~~ Ah com'on Robert...this is the list where people make silver! Nutrition...high potassium foods include black strap molasses, potatoes, tomato or V8 juice, bananas http://www.Krispin.com/index.htp Good info on potassium and potassium rich foods. [note: the body cannot hold onto or utilize potassium without magnesium] There is a herbal supplement on the net specific to gout...search for it...(don't have info any more...) ~^^V^^~ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
CSGout
Does anyone have any experience with gout? My Mom has gout on her toe and I was wondering how/if cs could help. Thanks garyjan...@msn.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
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Gout is because the body is too acid. Too much protein. Eat some fruit and it will go away. Oranges, etc. Robert -Original Message- From: GaryJanine [mailto:garyjan...@email.msn.com] Sent: Saturday, December 25, 1999 7:18 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSGout Does anyone have any experience with gout? My Mom has gout on her toe and I was wondering how/if cs could help. Thanks garyjan...@msn.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
