RE: CSThe Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics

2007-06-29 Thread ruth strackbein
Hi, SMS:  I think I would like to try making kefir. I made some awhile back 
and had trouble with diarrhea after a couple of weeks.  I was using 
unpasteurized goatsmilk produced locally from people whose  outfit I trust.  
Don't know if I should get the grains from you since you must live in the 
west.  I see you have pacific time. I am in Minnesota .  Think I should 
probably  get some from someone closer.  I would like a copy of your 
directions , though.  The directions I had before didn't exactly make sense 
to me.  Thanks, Ruth



From Ruth Strackbein




From: sms s...@emotap.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSThe Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 09:55:56 -0700 (Pacific Standard Time)

Ruth,
I can't remember if anyone suggested regular use of Pro-Biotics.  If you
would like to know how to make your own kefir using kefir grains and 
organic

whole milk, let me know.
Sasha


From: ruth strackbein
Hi, Charles, The burning pain that is very much stronger recently in the
ileo area and the upper ribcage right center area, the kinks in my bowel
that show up in the recent X-rays, and past experiences with my digestive
track contribute to my fear.
I


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Re: CSThe Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics

2007-06-28 Thread ruth strackbein
Hi, Barbara,  I didn't buy the Benefiber after all,  found a different one 
that works similarly but does not have wheat.  But thanks , anyway, your 
message sent me looking for something different.  Ruth



From Ruth Strackbein




From: G Murray kg...@sasktel.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSThe Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 18:50:06 -0600

I just googled the wheat dextrin as I had not heard of this before and 
wondered about Irritable bowel.


Barbara wrote:


I do not have any problems with Benefiber because I have no
alergies and no gluten intolerances.  Barbara



http://www.helpforibs.com/supplements/benefiber_change.asp


Benefiber Change

As of July 2006, Benefiber has announced that all of their
products will no longer contain partially hydrolized guar gum.
Benefiber will now be made from wheat dextrin. According to a
phone representative at Novartis, the makers of Benefiber, this
decision was made to allow for smaller dosages and for a higher
profit margin. Benefiber guar gum provided 3 grams of soluble
fiber per tablespoon, whereas Benefiber wheat dextrin provides 1.5
grams of soluble fiber per teaspoon (there are three teaspoons in
one tablespoon).

I do not know how wheat dextrin compares to guar gum as a soluble
fiber supplement for Irritable Bowel Syndrome. I would not assume
that the wheat dextrin in Benefiber is safe for people with wheat
allergies or gluten intolerance disorders such as celiac.





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Re: CSThe Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics

2007-06-28 Thread Barbara
That's great, Ruth :)  I'm glad something helped you! 
Can you share what did you find?  

Barbara




  Hi, Barbara,  I didn't buy the Benefiber after all,  found a different one 
that works similarly but does not have wheat.  But thanks , anyway, your 
message sent me looking for something different.  Ruth

  From Ruth Strackbein




Re: CSThe Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics

2007-06-28 Thread ruth strackbein
Hi, Barbara, I found Fiber-sure a Clear-Mixing Fiber Supplement. sugar free, 
25 calories per 1 tsp . serving, can be taken 3 times a day. The tsp. should 
be heaping. Total carbs 6 grams, Dietary fiber 5 grams, Soluble fiber 5 
grams. That is in each heaping teaspoon or each dose.  If you take it 3 
times a day, you would get 15 grams of fiber.Flavor free, grit free, 
non-thickening. Active ingredients: Inulin, natural vegetable fiber. 
Distributed by Proctor and Gamble,  Made in Belgium. www.fibersure.com. Mix 
with room temperature liquid or mashed vegetables, etc. The Inulin thing 
struck me in a positive way due to other posts on Eskimo.com about its 
value.  They suggested starting with once a day and working up, but since we 
have been using fiber for longer, not sure if that would be necessary, still 
this product does have alot of fiber per dose. Glad to share. Ruth
P.S. I haven't tried it yet.  Am using up my unifiber which is also 
something you can mix with other foods, but hasn't nearly as much fiber per 
dose.

From Ruth Strackbein




From: Barbara barba...@tampabay.rr.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSThe Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 20:05:44 -0400

That's great, Ruth :)  I'm glad something helped you!
Can you share what did you find?

Barbara




  Hi, Barbara,  I didn't buy the Benefiber after all,  found a different 
one that works similarly but does not have wheat.  But thanks , anyway, 
your message sent me looking for something different.  Ruth


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Re: CSThe Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics

2007-06-28 Thread Barbara
Thank you for sharing, Ruth :)  Looks like it is much more fiber than Benefiber 
which you have to take two teaspoons to get 3g of fiber.  I will look for that 
:) 

Barbara



  Hi, Barbara, I found Fiber-sure a Clear-Mixing Fiber Supplement. sugar free, 
25 calories per 1 tsp . serving, can be taken 3 times a day. The tsp. should be 
heaping. Total carbs 6 grams, Dietary fiber 5 grams, Soluble fiber 5 grams. 
That is in each heaping teaspoon or each dose.  If you take it 3 times a day, 
you would get 15 grams of fiber.Flavor free, grit free, non-thickening. Active 
ingredients: Inulin, natural vegetable fiber. 
  Distributed by Proctor and Gamble,  Made in Belgium. www.fibersure.com. Mix 
with room temperature liquid or mashed vegetables, etc. The Inulin thing struck 
me in a positive way due to other posts on Eskimo.com about its value.  They 
suggested starting with once a day and working up, but since we have been using 
fiber for longer, not sure if that would be necessary, still 
  this product does have alot of fiber per dose. Glad to share. Ruth
  P.S. I haven't tried it yet.  Am using up my unifiber which is also 
  something you can mix with other foods, but hasn't nearly as much fiber per 
dose.
  From Ruth Strackbein




Re: CSThe Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics

2007-06-27 Thread Clayton Family

Ruth,

is citrucel like metamucil? I thought that was the same as flax seeds 
ground up. They are pretty cheap, and can be ground in the kitchen 
blender using a jelly jar instead of the big blender pitcher. But if 
things burn going down, what does he say about that? Well, best wishes. 
 -Kathryn



On Jun 26, 2007, at 2:52 PM, ruth strackbein wrote:

Hi , Sasha, I have used probiotics in the recent past.  Lately have 
been involved with this routine the surgeon gave me to see if we can 
get my bowel to work properly without the surgery.  I have very little 
confidence in his scheme, but if surgery becomes necessary he will 
probably be the one to do it.  Have gone to a clinic that deals only 
with gastroenterology.  Saw a gastroenterologist there,  After 
examining all my volume of records, he said emphatically that surgery 
is necessary. He referred me to this surgeon who does not think it is 
necessary.  He is willing to work with me to develop a technique to 
accomplish this.  Trouble is he wants me to use fiber medicine like 
Citrucel.  I had used that years ago without success, but tried it 
out.  It burns going down, not good. Is full of sugar and flavorings 
which I have avoided like the plague for 3 years. I guess I am not 
convinced either way about the surgery.  I know I have to get back on 
a better track somehow.  Ruth





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Re: CSThe Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics

2007-06-27 Thread G Murray

http://www.citrucel.com/citrucel_benefits.aspx
Other fiber powders, including Metamucil, contain psyllium. Psyllium can 
ferment in your body to produce excess gas. The fiber in Citrucel, 
methylcellulose, can't ferment so it will not produce excess gas*.


http://www.gicare.com/pated/methylcellulose.htm
What is methylcellulose?

This product is a synthetic chemical that loves water. It stays within 
the intestinal tract and is not absorbed. By attracting and holding 
water, it creates a softer stool. It is not a true harsh stimulant 
laxative which should be taken only occasionally. Methylcellulose can be 
taken long-term. Since it absorbs fluid, it may be helpful at times for 
diarrhea. It does not lower cholesterol..


How about side effects?

Adverse reactions can occur with any drug, even over-the-counter 
medications. Some of these are mild such as a stomach upset, which may 
be avoided by taking the medication with food. Minor reactions may go 
away on their own but if they persist, contact the physician. For major 
reactions, the patient should contact the physician immediately.


For methylcellulose, the following are the observed side effects:

Minor:

   * bloating
   * diarrhea
   * rumbling sounds
   * nausea
   * mild abdominal cramps

Major:

   * severe abdominal pain
   * vomiting
   * difficulty swallowing



Clayton Family wrote:


Ruth,

is citrucel like metamucil? I thought that was the same as flax seeds 
ground up. They are pretty cheap, and can be ground in the kitchen 
blender using a jelly jar instead of the big blender pitcher. But if 
things burn going down, what does he say about that? Well, best 
wishes.  -Kathryn




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Re: CSThe Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics

2007-06-27 Thread ruth strackbein
Hi, Kathryn, I said awhile back that I would not reply anymore. I will 
however , but will avoid anatomy references where possible.  Sometimes a bit 
difficult. I have found a different fiber med called Unifiber which contains 
Cellulose, cornsyrup solids and Xanthem gum.  That isn't much better than 
the others, but easier to use and doesn't burn.  Ruth



From Ruth Strackbein




From: G Murray kg...@sasktel.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSThe Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 08:22:38 -0600

http://www.citrucel.com/citrucel_benefits.aspx
Other fiber powders, including Metamucil, contain psyllium. Psyllium can 
ferment in your body to produce excess gas. The fiber in Citrucel, 
methylcellulose, can't ferment so it will not produce excess gas*.


http://www.gicare.com/pated/methylcellulose.htm
What is methylcellulose?

This product is a synthetic chemical that loves water. It stays within the 
intestinal tract and is not absorbed. By attracting and holding water, it 
creates a softer stool. It is not a true harsh stimulant laxative which 
should be taken only occasionally. Methylcellulose can be taken long-term. 
Since it absorbs fluid, it may be helpful at times for diarrhea. It does 
not lower cholesterol..


How about side effects?

Adverse reactions can occur with any drug, even over-the-counter 
medications. Some of these are mild such as a stomach upset, which may be 
avoided by taking the medication with food. Minor reactions may go away on 
their own but if they persist, contact the physician. For major reactions, 
the patient should contact the physician immediately.


For methylcellulose, the following are the observed side effects:

Minor:

   * bloating
   * diarrhea
   * rumbling sounds
   * nausea
   * mild abdominal cramps

Major:

   * severe abdominal pain
   * vomiting
   * difficulty swallowing



Clayton Family wrote:


Ruth,

is citrucel like metamucil? I thought that was the same as flax seeds 
ground up. They are pretty cheap, and can be ground in the kitchen blender 
using a jelly jar instead of the big blender pitcher. But if things burn 
going down, what does he say about that? Well, best wishes.  -Kathryn




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Re: CSThe Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics

2007-06-27 Thread ruth strackbein
Hi Kathryn,.  I have tried Flaxseed both oil and ground.  Didn' t seem to 
agree with me as so many things don't.  Charles probablyhas found the 
answer, at least to my upper burning.  I have not been paying attention to 
gallbladder messages since I don't have one any more.  However, the symptoms 
I have are exactly the ones listed under gallbladder problems in the site 
Charles referred me to.  Pain under center right ribcage, sometimes going to 
right shoulder.  I have it right now.  The kits referred to in the 
gallbladder site, are very expensive from my point of view.  Will run this 
past my regular doctors before ordering anything.  Ruth



From Ruth Strackbein




From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSThe Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 08:19:35 -0500

Ruth,

is citrucel like metamucil? I thought that was the same as flax seeds 
ground up. They are pretty cheap, and can be ground in the kitchen blender 
using a jelly jar instead of the big blender pitcher. But if things burn 
going down, what does he say about that? Well, best wishes.  -Kathryn



On Jun 26, 2007, at 2:52 PM, ruth strackbein wrote:

Hi , Sasha, I have used probiotics in the recent past.  Lately have been 
involved with this routine the surgeon gave me to see if we can get my 
bowel to work properly without the surgery.  I have very little confidence 
in his scheme, but if surgery becomes necessary he will probably be the 
one to do it.  Have gone to a clinic that deals only with 
gastroenterology.  Saw a gastroenterologist there,  After examining all my 
volume of records, he said emphatically that surgery is necessary. He 
referred me to this surgeon who does not think it is necessary.  He is 
willing to work with me to develop a technique to accomplish this.  
Trouble is he wants me to use fiber medicine like Citrucel.  I had used 
that years ago without success, but tried it out.  It burns going down, 
not good. Is full of sugar and flavorings which I have avoided like the 
plague for 3 years. I guess I am not convinced either way about the 
surgery.  I know I have to get back on a better track somehow.  Ruth





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Re: CSThe Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics

2007-06-27 Thread Barbara
Hi Ruth, 

Even better is the one called BENEFIBER.  It contains 100% wheat dextrin and 
nothing else.  Here is a site. 

http://www.benefiber.com/products/index.shtml?benefiberPowders 

Barbara




  Hi, Kathryn, I said awhile back that I would not reply anymore. I will 
  however , but will avoid anatomy references where possible.  Sometimes a bit 
difficult. I have found a different fiber med called Unifiber which contains 
Cellulose, cornsyrup solids and Xanthem gum.  That isn't much better than the 
others, but easier to use and doesn't burn.  Ruth

  From Ruth Strackbein




Re: CSThe Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics

2007-06-27 Thread ruth strackbein
Hi, Barbara, Thanks for your link.  Sounds like good information.  I haven't 
eaten any wheat or barley products for the past three years.  I thought at 
one time that I might have celiac, but I really doubt that that is my 
problem.  Was tested, but only after having been on the diet for 8 months, 
so tests were inconclusive.  And the diet I chose to use is a healthy one.  
Eliminates all the flour products whose value has been compromised by 
manufacturers. But this would possibly be a better choice than the current 
ones I have tried.  Actually no bulk producing product has ever given me 
relief.  I have taken most of them for months at a time in past years, not 
recently. They just tend to stop things up faster.  However, I am working 
with this surgeon who is trying very hard to help me avoid surgery.  He 
isn't particular which fiber med I use, just so I use one. Again , thanks.  
This evening I'll go to your link.  Ruth



From Ruth Strackbein




From: Barbara barba...@tampabay.rr.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSThe Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 17:33:08 -0400

Hi Ruth,

Even better is the one called BENEFIBER.  It contains 100% wheat dextrin 
and nothing else.  Here is a site.


http://www.benefiber.com/products/index.shtml?benefiberPowders

Barbara




  Hi, Kathryn, I said awhile back that I would not reply anymore. I will
  however , but will avoid anatomy references where possible.  Sometimes a 
bit difficult. I have found a different fiber med called Unifiber which 
contains Cellulose, cornsyrup solids and Xanthem gum.  That isn't much 
better than the others, but easier to use and doesn't burn.  Ruth


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Re: CSThe Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics

2007-06-27 Thread Barbara
I'm taking it for last 6 weeks or so and it works.  Like you 
I eat no grains and no sugar so this fiber sounded good 
to me and it really is.  I hope you will try it.

Barbara 




  Hi, Barbara, Thanks for your link.  Sounds like good information.  I haven't 
  eaten any wheat or barley products for the past three years.  I thought at 
  one time that I might have celiac, but I really doubt that that is my 
  problem.  Was tested, but only after having been on the diet for 8 months, 
  so tests were inconclusive.  And the diet I chose to use is a healthy one.  
  Eliminates all the flour products whose value has been compromised by 
  manufacturers. But this would possibly be a better choice than the current 
  ones I have tried.  Actually no bulk producing product has ever given me 
  relief.  I have taken most of them for months at a time in past years, not 
  recently. They just tend to stop things up faster.  However, I am working 
  with this surgeon who is trying very hard to help me avoid surgery.  He 
  isn't particular which fiber med I use, just so I use one. Again , thanks.  
  This evening I'll go to your link.  Ruth

  From Ruth Strackbein



Re: CSThe Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics

2007-06-27 Thread ruth strackbein
Hi, Barbara, I plan to try it as soon as I can get to town and get some. 
Ruth



From Ruth Strackbein




From: Barbara barba...@tampabay.rr.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSThe Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 19:17:09 -0400

I'm taking it for last 6 weeks or so and it works.  Like you
I eat no grains and no sugar so this fiber sounded good
to me and it really is.  I hope you will try it.

Barbara




  Hi, Barbara, Thanks for your link.  Sounds like good information.  I 
haven't
  eaten any wheat or barley products for the past three years.  I thought 
at

  one time that I might have celiac, but I really doubt that that is my
  problem.  Was tested, but only after having been on the diet for 8 
months,
  so tests were inconclusive.  And the diet I chose to use is a healthy 
one.

  Eliminates all the flour products whose value has been compromised by
  manufacturers. But this would possibly be a better choice than the 
current

  ones I have tried.  Actually no bulk producing product has ever given me
  relief.  I have taken most of them for months at a time in past years, 
not
  recently. They just tend to stop things up faster.  However, I am 
working

  with this surgeon who is trying very hard to help me avoid surgery.  He
  isn't particular which fiber med I use, just so I use one. Again , 
thanks.

  This evening I'll go to your link.  Ruth

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Re: CSThe Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics

2007-06-27 Thread G Murray

http://www.helpforibs.com/supplements/benefiber_change.asp


   Benefiber Change

As of July 2006, Benefiber has announced that all of their products will 
no longer contain partially hydrolized guar gum. Benefiber will now be 
made from wheat dextrin. According to a phone representative at 
Novartis, the makers of Benefiber, this decision was made to allow for 
smaller dosages and for a higher profit margin. Benefiber guar gum 
provided 3 grams of soluble fiber per tablespoon, whereas Benefiber 
wheat dextrin provides 1.5 grams of soluble fiber per teaspoon (there 
are three teaspoons in one tablespoon).


I do not know how wheat dextrin compares to guar gum as a soluble fiber 
supplement for Irritable Bowel Syndrome. I would not assume that the 
wheat dextrin in Benefiber is safe for people with wheat allergies or 
gluten intolerance disorders such as celiac.



Barbara wrote:


Hi Ruth,
 
Even better is the one called BENEFIBER.  It contains 100% wheat 
dextrin and nothing else.  Here is a site.
 
http://www.benefiber.com/products/index.shtml?benefiberPowders 
 
Barbara
 
 



Hi, Kathryn, I said awhile back that I would not reply anymore. I
will
however , but will avoid anatomy references where possible. 
Sometimes a bit difficult. I have found a different fiber med

called Unifiber which contains Cellulose, cornsyrup solids and
Xanthem gum.  That isn't much better than the others, but easier
to use and doesn't burn.  Ruth

From Ruth Strackbein





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Re: CSThe Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics

2007-06-27 Thread Barbara
I do not have any problems with Benefiber because I have no 
alergies and no gluten intolerances.  

Barbara




  http://www.helpforibs.com/supplements/benefiber_change.asp


  Benefiber Change

  As of July 2006, Benefiber has announced that all of their products will no 
longer contain partially hydrolized guar gum. Benefiber will now be made from 
wheat dextrin. According to a phone representative at Novartis, the makers of 
Benefiber, this decision was made to allow for smaller dosages and for a higher 
profit margin. Benefiber guar gum provided 3 grams of soluble fiber per 
tablespoon, whereas Benefiber wheat dextrin provides 1.5 grams of soluble fiber 
per teaspoon (there are three teaspoons in one tablespoon).

  I do not know how wheat dextrin compares to guar gum as a soluble fiber 
supplement for Irritable Bowel Syndrome. I would not assume that the wheat 
dextrin in Benefiber is safe for people with wheat allergies or gluten 
intolerance disorders such as celiac.




Re: CSThe Poor Colon, Dogs, Dog Herb

2007-06-26 Thread CWFugitt

Morning Dennis,

 At 12:14 AM 6/26/2007, you wrote:
That plant looks so familiar - I looked through my audubon feild guides but 
can't find what it is.

Does the plant flower?


   They grow every where.  Very common I think.
Never seen a flower even when they get 8 feet tall.
The ones the dog eats are usually 1.5 to 2.5 feet tall.

Wayne


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CSThe Poor Colon

2007-06-26 Thread sms
Ruth, 
 
Another EXCELLENT herbal remedy is one called Triphala Internal Cleanser. It
is an Ayurvedic Compound (1000 MG).  I learned about Triphala from a very
knowledgeable woman in my Lyme Group, and ever since I started taking it,
miracles began to happen in my intestines.  Now I wouldn't be without it,
because it truly is one of those herbs that works wonders. By the way,
Michael Tierra is highly regarded in the healing community.  
Sasha 
 
SNIP 
 
Triphala provided protection gainst both gastrointestinal and hemopoetic
death 
 
 
Triphala, according to Dr Michael Tierra, a practicing herbalist and 
author of The Wonders of Triphala: Ayurvedic Formula for Internal 
Purification, is one of the safest and most strengthening of the 
cleansing herb formulas; it gently promotes internal detoxification 
of all conditions of stagnation and excess while improving digestion 
and assimilation. 
 
He adds: It has been shown to be an effective blood purifier that 
stimulates bile secretion as it detoxifies the liver. Triphala 
benefits circulation, improves digestion and regulates elimination 
without causing any laxative dependency. Triphala is also taken for 
all eye disorders including the treatment of conjunctivitis, 
progressive myopia, early stages of glaucoma and cataracts. Triphala 
can be highly effective in removing stagnation of both the liver and 
intestines and is one of the greatest and most popular rejuvenators 
in ayurvedic medicine; it helps to aid the body's natural 
detoxification and elimination processes without weakening systems or 
becoming habit forming. 
 
No wonder, observes Dr. Tierra, in India there is a saying comparing 
the importance of triphala to that of a mother. In `A Botanical 
Approach to the Treatment of Cancer' Tierra claims that Triphala is a 
herbal formula to maintain balanced elimination and detoxification. 
He notes that Triphala is widely regarded as a purgative and 
laxative but in fact it is considered a rasayana and rejuvenator. Its 
special value, therefore, is both as a regulator of elimination as 
well as rejuvenator of the whole body. 
 
What is Triphala 
 
Triphala is a combination of the dried fruits of Terminalia chebula, 
Terminalia belerica, and Emblica officinalis in equal proportions. 
These are popularly known in India as harad, behada and amla. Harada 
and behada have a warm energy, while amla is cool. Triphala, being a 
combination of all three, is therefore balanced, making it useful as 
an internal cleansing, detoxifying formula for everyone including 
more sensitive type individuals and vegetarians. 
 
This formula and its individual ingredients are highly valued in 
Ayurveda, being compared to a good manager of the house, aiding 
digestion, nutrient absorption and body metabolism. 
 
According to Ayurvedic practitioners, daily use of triphala promotes 
normal appetite, good digestion, the increase of red blood cells and 
hemoglobin, and removal of undesirable fat. Triphala is very 
beneficial for creating a favorable chemical environment for the 
proliferation of beneficial intestinal bacteria and an unfavorable 
environment for non-beneficial intestinal bacteria. Of primary 
importance is the use of triphala as a bowel regulator. It is 
considered as safe as food and is not habit forming, even when taken 
on a daily basis. Since triphala is a tonic, cleanser and blood 
purifier, there is still one other important use for it and that is 
as a strengthener of the eyes, useful for cataracts, conjunctivitis 
and glaucoma. Triphala can be used as daily eyewash to strengthen 
vision, counteract many eye defects and eliminate redness and 
soreness. 
 
Practitioners of Traditional Chinese Medicine claim that Triphala 
will also eliminate what is called deficient heat in Chinese 
medicine. This is a feeling of heat and burning on the chest, legs, 
palms and/or soles of the feet, all representing a B-vitamin 
deficiency in Western medicine. Triphala taken regularly will promote 
absorption and utilization of the B vitamins and will completely 
relieve the symptoms of deficient heat. SNIP 
 


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CSThe Poor Colon

2007-06-26 Thread sms
Ruth, 
I forgot to add one thing. Triphala is an anti-oxidant. So, if you should
decide to try Triphala, do not take it with oxidants; i.e., homozon,
ozonated water, etc. Oxidants and anti-oxidants should be taken separate
from one another. 
Sasha 
 
-
 
Ruth, 
 
Another EXCELLENT herbal remedy is one called Triphala Internal Cleanser. It

is an Ayurvedic Compound (1000 MG). I learned about Triphala from a very 
knowledgeable woman in my Lyme Group, and ever since I started taking it, 
miracles began to happen in my intestines. Now I wouldn't be without it, 
because it truly is one of those herbs that works wonders. By the way, 
Michael Tierra is highly regarded in the healing community. 
Sasha 
 
SNIP


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CSThe Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics

2007-06-26 Thread sms
Ruth,
I can't remember if anyone suggested regular use of Pro-Biotics.  If you
would like to know how to make your own kefir using kefir grains and organic
whole milk, let me know.  
Sasha
 
 
From: ruth strackbein 
Hi, Charles, The burning pain that is very much stronger recently in the 
ileo area and the upper ribcage right center area, the kinks in my bowel 
that show up in the recent X-rays, and past experiences with my digestive 
track contribute to my fear. 
I


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RE: CSThe Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics

2007-06-26 Thread ruth strackbein
Hi , Sasha, I have used probiotics in the recent past.  Lately have been 
involved with this routine the surgeon gave me to see if we can get my bowel 
to work properly without the surgery.  I have very little confidence in his 
scheme, but if surgery becomes necessary he will probably be the one to do 
it.  Have gone to a clinic that deals only with gastroenterology.  Saw a 
gastroenterologist there,  After examining all my volume of records, he said 
emphatically that surgery is necessary. He referred me to this surgeon who 
does not think it is necessary.  He is willing to work with me to develop a 
technique to accomplish this.  Trouble is he wants me to use fiber medicine 
like Citrucel.  I had used that years ago without success, but tried it out. 
 It burns going down, not good. Is full of sugar and flavorings which I 
have avoided like the plague for 3 years. I guess I am not convinced either 
way about the surgery.  I know I have to get back on a better track somehow. 
 Ruth



From Ruth Strackbein




From: sms s...@emotap.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSThe Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 09:55:56 -0700 (Pacific Standard Time)

Ruth,
I can't remember if anyone suggested regular use of Pro-Biotics.  If you
would like to know how to make your own kefir using kefir grains and 
organic

whole milk, let me know.
Sasha


From: ruth strackbein
Hi, Charles, The burning pain that is very much stronger recently in the
ileo area and the upper ribcage right center area, the kinks in my bowel
that show up in the recent X-rays, and past experiences with my digestive
track contribute to my fear.
I


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RE: CSThe Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics

2007-06-26 Thread sms
Hi Ruth,
I can empathize with what you are going through Ruth.  It must be horrible
and this colon problem must be wreaking havoc in your life.  Look at it this
way, surgery is always an option for you if that is what you ultimately
decide.  But, also think about it this way.  There is a reason you are on
this list and seeking advice.  That is a wise thing to do.  There is a
wealth of knowledge and probably hundreds of years of combined personal and
professional experience that you are receiving from our family of list
members.  Why not try some of the wonderful and excellent advice everyone is
sharing?  Trust that your body awareness knows what is right for you.  You
have got nothing to lose by doing that.  Personally, I agree with everyone
and would only do the surgery if it were a matter of life and death - but,
for no other reason other than that.  They have two ways of dealing with
illness - drugs or surgery.  That is what they have been trained to do.  But
there is a world of difference when you go to the alternative side of
medicine and health practices.  They look for everything natural to heal you
   May I ask - have you seen any doctors or practitioners outside of the
allopathic medical field such as alternative/holistic, energy medicine, or
ayurvedic master practitioners?  This might be a good balance and then with
professional assistance they can help you choose what is right for you.  If
you let us know where you reside, then we can avail you of those alternative
practitioners in your area that might be able to help you.  Let's try Ruth. 
So where are you?
 
Hugs, 
Sasha
 
 
From: ruth strackbein 
 
Hi , Sasha, I have used probiotics in the recent past. Lately have been 
involved with this routine the surgeon gave me to see if we can get my bowel

to work properly without the surgery. I have very little confidence in his 
scheme, but if surgery becomes necessary he will probably be the one to do 
it. 


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RE: CSThe Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics

2007-06-26 Thread ruth strackbein
Hi, Sasha,  I do see a nutrition oriented chiropractor every other week. The 
other practioners are usually too costly for me.  I am retired. Have an 
adequate income for ordinary expenses, but nothing fancy.  I thought long 
and hard about trying internet at home.  Otherwise I used the library.  
Still go up there sometimes and do my e-mail to save on electricity at home 
and use their arconditioning in the heat of the day.  But can onlyuse a 
computer there for 1 hour. I am saving much pertinent information either by 
printing or by putting in folders on my computer for future reference.  I 
have mentioned before maybe in response to someone else's message, that I 
have to pick and choose which inteventions to try out.  I simply cannot 
invest in many  alternative health supplements, too often they don't work 
and I end up with a bathroom cupboard full of bottles.  I borrow many books 
from my chiropractor about healthy diet and diet for specific problems, etc. 
 He also has DVD's. He carries a few things like Bentonite Clay and 
Psyllium which I took for about 4 months.  The psyllium came in two kinds, 
one with a soy additive and one with a whey additive.  Both of these reacted 
against the burning pain under my right ribcage.  I am becoming more and 
more convinced that this pain is caused by too much pushing to pass stool 
and collections of gas  in my large intestine that gets caught in the nooks 
and crannies of my colon On a day when I have expelled alot of gas, I seem 
to have some relief at least for awhile. I do use an antigas medication.
  I am considering some of the exercise ideas and other things that involve 
little expense.  The chiropractor is inclined to work mainly with nutrition. 
Does also carry a probiotic which I have used, but without success so far.  
So I am trying to fight this within my means.
  I am not sure if you have come across any of the accounts I have posted 
concerning the condition of my colon that has led the Drs. to recommend 
surgery.  It is very much longer than those of most people. It is also 
floppy and tends to clamp up.  Transit time mouth to rectum is 7-8 days.  10 
years ago was 5 days by x-ray. It is coming up supper time, better quit. I'm 
sorry if I have repeated stuff I already told you or you read in another 
post.  Thanks, Ruth I need all the encouragement I can get at this time and 
I am very grateful for all the ideas I have received.



From Ruth Strackbein




From: sms s...@emotap.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSThe Poor Colon and Pro-Biotics
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 14:49:08 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time)

Hi Ruth,
I can empathize with what you are going through Ruth.  It must be horrible
and this colon problem must be wreaking havoc in your life.  Look at it 
this

way, surgery is always an option for you if that is what you ultimately
decide.  But, also think about it this way.  There is a reason you are on
this list and seeking advice.  That is a wise thing to do.  There is a
wealth of knowledge and probably hundreds of years of combined personal and
professional experience that you are receiving from our family of list
members.  Why not try some of the wonderful and excellent advice everyone 
is

sharing?  Trust that your body awareness knows what is right for you.  You
have got nothing to lose by doing that.  Personally, I agree with everyone
and would only do the surgery if it were a matter of life and death - but,
for no other reason other than that.  They have two ways of dealing with
illness - drugs or surgery.  That is what they have been trained to do.  
But

there is a world of difference when you go to the alternative side of
medicine and health practices.  They look for everything natural to heal 
you

   May I ask - have you seen any doctors or practitioners outside of the
allopathic medical field such as alternative/holistic, energy medicine, or
ayurvedic master practitioners?  This might be a good balance and then with
professional assistance they can help you choose what is right for you.  If
you let us know where you reside, then we can avail you of those 
alternative

practitioners in your area that might be able to help you.  Let's try Ruth.
So where are you?

Hugs,
Sasha


From: ruth strackbein

Hi , Sasha, I have used probiotics in the recent past. Lately have been
involved with this routine the surgeon gave me to see if we can get my 
bowel


to work properly without the surgery. I have very little confidence in his
scheme, but if surgery becomes necessary he will probably be the one to do
it.


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CSThe Poor Colon

2007-06-25 Thread CWFugitt


 Morning Ruth and the list,

 I have read virtually all the messages on the digestion system,
primarily the colon.

Here are some of my far out and radical ideas.  Some may sound cruel, but 
this is the way I see it.


The poor colon catches everything one throws at it over all the years.
In addition, it suffers from all the mistakes and short comings of the 
upper digestion system and the owner.


This includes much bogus food,  improper food combining,
worthless foods, low fiber foods, glue based food,  breads that should not 
be fed to a dog, maybe not even to a pig.


It virtually never gets enough fiber based on the amount stated that we 
need everyday.  Average fiber intake is about 1/3 the amount needed.  Often 
it is listed as 20 to 40 grams. Of course this would be about two pounds or 
some fiber foods. Maybe even 2.5 pounds.


Shortcomings made in the mouth and digestion problems in the stomach are 
all sent to the poor colon, which must suffer the consequences.


In older people, most have had an HCL deficiency for many years.
These same people have had virtually every kind of digestion problem known 
to man.


The colon catches hell.  Then we wonder why it gets many problems.

The cause is virtually Handwriting on the wall and etched in stone.
Anyone that thinks any of these single treatments will solve the problems 
of years of abuse must go back to the drawing board.


It is not going to happen.

In my field, we have a term,  Beyond Economical Repair.
I think the medical field needs the same term, or one more descriptive.

One short real life story, ...  I had an aunt that lived to near 90 
years.  She had the worse diet in the world. Poor food, drank cokes all the 
time, and knew nothing about nutrition.


One thing. she took her HCL religiously.  It was prescribed in the 
40's and 50's. Of course I was only a teenager but my memory has been good 
over the years.  Knowing the few facts, and limited knowledge, I can only 
deduct that the HCL helped her overcome and live to an old age.


Most people over 40 fail to make enough HCL.  In the group that are sick 
enough to go to a doctor for any reason, 90 % of these fail to make enough HCL.


Blame the medical profession where they disserve it.

As I read all the different ailments and treatment for the digestion 
system, I come to only one conclusion.


The medical profession is a huge fraud and a bunch of thieves.
Many of my friends over 50 have these stupid colon scopes done 
regularly.  They don't know how to spell digestion system and I don't think 
their doctors do either.


So, everyone needs to get back to the basics, and not 3, 5, or 25 years 
after a problem shows up.


Recently, I had an audiologist charge my insurance $ 775.00 of failed 
work.  He tried to program my speech processor 3 times and all were a total 
failure.  I will call them and try to get the charge cancelled.  Maybe I 
can, or maybe not.


There are 1000 more fine points and facts, but I think most of you know them.

Again, the poor colon does not have a chance to function right.
The complete digestion system is designed to function 24 hours per day. It 
should always have food high in fiber to work with.
Plenty of HCL and enzymes are required for the upper system to do the job 
before the food gets to the colon.


Heck, recently I ate some raw fern leaves. I was amazed how good they 
tasted.  I would have eaten more but they my contain chemical that are not 
needed.  I eat raw okra, raw field peas, peppers and squash, and of course 
tomatoes.   I also eat wild huckleberries, wild cherries,  and wild 
blackberries.  The blueberries are not so wild.


Soon, many cantaloupes and watermelons.  The colon can stand this kind of 
work.  That is what it was designed to do.


I welcome any comments. If you think I am crazy, tell me so.

Wayne

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Re: CSThe Poor Colon

2007-06-25 Thread Dee
What is HCL please?  And I agree about the medical profession on the whole;
a bit like vets too.  Some of course, are just misguided.  I see that in the
UK they are now persuading people to have blood tests to see the cholesterol
content.  If this is above 5 they will then put them all on statins!  Mass
murder, in my opinion. Dee  

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From: CWFugitt 

Date: 25/06/2007 10:20:26 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: CSThe Poor Colon 

 

Morning Ruth and the list, 

 

 

Most people over 40 fail to make enough HCL. In the group that are sick 

Enough to go to a doctor for any reason, 90 % of these fail to make enough
HCL. 

 

Blame the medical profession where they disserve it. 

 


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CSThe Poor Colon

2007-06-25 Thread mukta1


Hi Wayne, group,

I second completely. This is also true for many other
diseases. For many years we are trying to deteriorate our
health. Then we want to recover by taking pills.

BTW I read somewhere about an easy way to check whether we
make enough HCL. Take 1/4 teaspoon of sodium bicarbonate
dissolved in (half) a glass of water. If you start burping
within 5 minutes you make some HCL, if not you don't.

Wayne, will you please elaborate on your diet and what
errors did you made trying raw vegetables.

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RE: CSThe Poor Colon

2007-06-25 Thread ruth strackbein
Hi, All, Wouldn't this depend somewhat on the time of day you do the 
testing? And whether before a meal of after, etc.? Ruth



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Subject: CSThe Poor Colon
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 14:01:21 +0300



Hi Wayne, group,

I second completely. This is also true for many other
diseases. For many years we are trying to deteriorate our
health. Then we want to recover by taking pills.

BTW I read somewhere about an easy way to check whether we
make enough HCL. Take 1/4 teaspoon of sodium bicarbonate
dissolved in (half) a glass of water. If you start burping
within 5 minutes you make some HCL, if not you don't.

Wayne, will you please elaborate on your diet and what
errors did you made trying raw vegetables.

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RE: CSThe Poor Colon

2007-06-25 Thread jessie70
Wayne, I know a lot of people who are converting to a raw diet and are also
eating wild foods like the fern, etc. They eat a lot of nuts to keep weight
on and do weights to maintain muscle mass. They claim to have increased
energy and health. Do you also eat animal protein? Thanks, Jess



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From: CWFugitt [mailto:c_wa...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 4:18 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSThe Poor Colon



  Morning Ruth and the list,

  I have read virtually all the messages on the digestion system,
primarily the colon.

Here are some of my far out and radical ideas.  Some may sound cruel, but
this is the way I see it.

The poor colon catches everything one throws at it over all the years.
In addition, it suffers from all the mistakes and short comings of the
upper digestion system and the owner.

This includes much bogus food,  improper food combining,
worthless foods, low fiber foods, glue based food,  breads that should not
be fed to a dog, maybe not even to a pig.

It virtually never gets enough fiber based on the amount stated that we
need everyday.  Average fiber intake is about 1/3 the amount needed.  Often
it is listed as 20 to 40 grams. Of course this would be about two pounds or
some fiber foods. Maybe even 2.5 pounds.

Shortcomings made in the mouth and digestion problems in the stomach are
all sent to the poor colon, which must suffer the consequences.

In older people, most have had an HCL deficiency for many years.
These same people have had virtually every kind of digestion problem known
to man.

The colon catches hell.  Then we wonder why it gets many problems.

The cause is virtually Handwriting on the wall and etched in stone.
Anyone that thinks any of these single treatments will solve the problems
of years of abuse must go back to the drawing board.

It is not going to happen.

In my field, we have a term,  Beyond Economical Repair.
I think the medical field needs the same term, or one more descriptive.

One short real life story, ...  I had an aunt that lived to near 90
years.  She had the worse diet in the world. Poor food, drank cokes all the
time, and knew nothing about nutrition.

One thing. she took her HCL religiously.  It was prescribed in the
40's and 50's. Of course I was only a teenager but my memory has been good
over the years.  Knowing the few facts, and limited knowledge, I can only
deduct that the HCL helped her overcome and live to an old age.

Most people over 40 fail to make enough HCL.  In the group that are sick
enough to go to a doctor for any reason, 90 % of these fail to make enough
HCL.

Blame the medical profession where they disserve it.

As I read all the different ailments and treatment for the digestion
system, I come to only one conclusion.

The medical profession is a huge fraud and a bunch of thieves.
Many of my friends over 50 have these stupid colon scopes done
regularly.  They don't know how to spell digestion system and I don't think
their doctors do either.

So, everyone needs to get back to the basics, and not 3, 5, or 25 years
after a problem shows up.

Recently, I had an audiologist charge my insurance $ 775.00 of failed
work.  He tried to program my speech processor 3 times and all were a total
failure.  I will call them and try to get the charge cancelled.  Maybe I
can, or maybe not.

There are 1000 more fine points and facts, but I think most of you know
them.

Again, the poor colon does not have a chance to function right.
The complete digestion system is designed to function 24 hours per day. It
should always have food high in fiber to work with.
Plenty of HCL and enzymes are required for the upper system to do the job
before the food gets to the colon.

Heck, recently I ate some raw fern leaves. I was amazed how good they
tasted.  I would have eaten more but they my contain chemical that are not
needed.  I eat raw okra, raw field peas, peppers and squash, and of course
tomatoes.   I also eat wild huckleberries, wild cherries,  and wild
blackberries.  The blueberries are not so wild.

Soon, many cantaloupes and watermelons.  The colon can stand this kind of
work.  That is what it was designed to do.

I welcome any comments. If you think I am crazy, tell me so.

Wayne

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CSThe Poor Colon, Dogs, Dog Herb

2007-06-25 Thread CWFugitt

Morning Dee,

 At 05:34 AM 6/25/2007, you wrote:

What is HCL please?


  Hydrochloric Acid.  I should have spelled it out at least once.

I understand dogs make it 6 times as strong as humans.  I have seen my dog 
lay around chewing on a dead rat that smelled very bad,  while the 
bowl was full of dog food.


That must be telling us a lot.  We can learn a lot from dogs.

My dog eats one kind of weed leaves.  She will strip the plant of leaves, 
and has selected this same weed year after year.


I have a picture of the weed on my website.  Sent the picture to
Texas A and M and they could not identify it.

http://www.fugitt.com/files/dog_herb.JPG

These will grow 8 to 10 feet tall.  This one got under one of my drip lines.

Maybe someone will recognize it.

Wayne


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RE: CSThe Poor Colon

2007-06-25 Thread ruth strackbein
Hi, Wayne,  Am glad you have read all the messages, including my too 
numerous ones. Should have combined them all and addressed to All.  About 
fiber: I am scared to try all raw foods .  Romaine lettuce once or twice a 
day is the only vegetable I eat raw.  Do eat bananas and cantalope.  I know 
bananas are supposed to be constipating, but most fruits seem to burn in my 
upper right ribcage trouble spot, and I need to gain weight.  Eliminating 
bananas would take out an important source of calories, not to mention 
fiber.  I doubt if they are high fiber, but they do have some.  Otherwise , 
I eat only veggies, lightly cooked in the double boiler to avoid bringing 
them to a boil. This is for veggies already cooked but need to be heated.  
(maybe not!) . As you already know, Wayne the kinds of veggies I eat is 
rather limited. Right now I am passing quite a few stools a day. I really 
think some of these are part of the same stool, but just break off too soon. 
 There is no urge, just a feeling of something being there.  The 
Hydrochloric Acid thing is certainly interesting.  Will have to try the test 
suggested by someone else. Ruth



From Ruth Strackbein




From: CWFugitt c_wa...@earthlink.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSThe Poor Colon
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 04:18:04 -0500


 Morning Ruth and the list,

 I have read virtually all the messages on the digestion system,
primarily the colon.

Here are some of my far out and radical ideas.  Some may sound cruel, but 
this is the way I see it.


The poor colon catches everything one throws at it over all the years.
In addition, it suffers from all the mistakes and short comings of the 
upper digestion system and the owner.


This includes much bogus food,  improper food combining,
worthless foods, low fiber foods, glue based food,  breads that should not 
be fed to a dog, maybe not even to a pig.


It virtually never gets enough fiber based on the amount stated that we 
need everyday.  Average fiber intake is about 1/3 the amount needed.  Often 
it is listed as 20 to 40 grams. Of course this would be about two pounds or 
some fiber foods. Maybe even 2.5 pounds.


Shortcomings made in the mouth and digestion problems in the stomach are 
all sent to the poor colon, which must suffer the consequences.


In older people, most have had an HCL deficiency for many years.
These same people have had virtually every kind of digestion problem known 
to man.


The colon catches hell.  Then we wonder why it gets many problems.

The cause is virtually Handwriting on the wall and etched in stone.
Anyone that thinks any of these single treatments will solve the problems 
of years of abuse must go back to the drawing board.


It is not going to happen.

In my field, we have a term,  Beyond Economical Repair.
I think the medical field needs the same term, or one more descriptive.

One short real life story, ...  I had an aunt that lived to near 90 
years.  She had the worse diet in the world. Poor food, drank cokes all the 
time, and knew nothing about nutrition.


One thing. she took her HCL religiously.  It was prescribed in the 
40's and 50's. Of course I was only a teenager but my memory has been good 
over the years.  Knowing the few facts, and limited knowledge, I can only 
deduct that the HCL helped her overcome and live to an old age.


Most people over 40 fail to make enough HCL.  In the group that are sick 
enough to go to a doctor for any reason, 90 % of these fail to make enough 
HCL.


Blame the medical profession where they disserve it.

As I read all the different ailments and treatment for the digestion 
system, I come to only one conclusion.


The medical profession is a huge fraud and a bunch of thieves.
Many of my friends over 50 have these stupid colon scopes done regularly.  
They don't know how to spell digestion system and I don't think their 
doctors do either.


So, everyone needs to get back to the basics, and not 3, 5, or 25 years 
after a problem shows up.


Recently, I had an audiologist charge my insurance $ 775.00 of failed work. 
 He tried to program my speech processor 3 times and all were a total 
failure.  I will call them and try to get the charge cancelled.  Maybe I 
can, or maybe not.


There are 1000 more fine points and facts, but I think most of you know 
them.


Again, the poor colon does not have a chance to function right.
The complete digestion system is designed to function 24 hours per day. It 
should always have food high in fiber to work with.
Plenty of HCL and enzymes are required for the upper system to do the job 
before the food gets to the colon.


Heck, recently I ate some raw fern leaves. I was amazed how good they 
tasted.  I would have eaten more but they my contain chemical that are not 
needed.  I eat raw okra, raw field peas, peppers and squash, and of course 
tomatoes.   I also eat wild huckleberries, wild cherries,  and wild 
blackberries

Re: CSThe Poor Colon

2007-06-25 Thread Rowena
I go to your website when I want something interesting that sounds right and 
works.
It's not us that're crazy . . . . .

R


I welcome any comments. If you think I am crazy, tell me so.

Wayne


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Re: CSThe Poor Colon

2007-06-25 Thread mborgert
I thank you for this information
MARY

-- Original message --
From: CWFugitt c_wa...@earthlink.net

 
   Morning Ruth and the list,
 
   I have read virtually all the messages on the digestion system,
 primarily the colon.
 
 Here are some of my far out and radical ideas.  Some may sound cruel, but 
 this is the way I see it.
 
 The poor colon catches everything one throws at it over all the years.
 In addition, it suffers from all the mistakes and short comings of the 
 upper digestion system and the owner.
 
 This includes much bogus food,  improper food combining,
 worthless foods, low fiber foods, glue based food,  breads that should not 
 be fed to a dog, maybe not even to a pig.
 
 It virtually never gets enough fiber based on the amount stated that we 
 need everyday.  Average fiber intake is about 1/3 the amount needed.  Often 
 it is listed as 20 to 40 grams. Of course this would be about two pounds or 
 some fiber foods. Maybe even 2.5 pounds.
 
 Shortcomings made in the mouth and digestion problems in the stomach are 
 all sent to the poor colon, which must suffer the consequences.
 
 In older people, most have had an HCL deficiency for many years.
 These same people have had virtually every kind of digestion problem known 
 to man.
 
 The colon catches hell.  Then we wonder why it gets many problems.
 
 The cause is virtually Handwriting on the wall and etched in stone.
 Anyone that thinks any of these single treatments will solve the problems 
 of years of abuse must go back to the drawing board.
 
 It is not going to happen.
 
 In my field, we have a term,  Beyond Economical Repair.
 I think the medical field needs the same term, or one more descriptive.
 
 One short real life story, ...  I had an aunt that lived to near 90 
 years.  She had the worse diet in the world. Poor food, drank cokes all the 
 time, and knew nothing about nutrition.
 
 One thing. she took her HCL religiously.  It was prescribed in the 
 40's and 50's. Of course I was only a teenager but my memory has been good 
 over the years.  Knowing the few facts, and limited knowledge, I can only 
 deduct that the HCL helped her overcome and live to an old age.
 
 Most people over 40 fail to make enough HCL.  In the group that are sick 
 enough to go to a doctor for any reason, 90 % of these fail to make enough 
 HCL.
 
 Blame the medical profession where they disserve it.
 
 As I read all the different ailments and treatment for the digestion 
 system, I come to only one conclusion.
 
 The medical profession is a huge fraud and a bunch of thieves.
 Many of my friends over 50 have these stupid colon scopes done 
 regularly.  They don't know how to spell digestion system and I don't think 
 their doctors do either.
 
 So, everyone needs to get back to the basics, and not 3, 5, or 25 years 
 after a problem shows up.
 
 Recently, I had an audiologist charge my insurance $ 775.00 of failed 
 work.  He tried to program my speech processor 3 times and all were a total 
 failure.  I will call them and try to get the charge cancelled.  Maybe I 
 can, or maybe not.
 
 There are 1000 more fine points and facts, but I think most of you know them.
 
 Again, the poor colon does not have a chance to function right.
 The complete digestion system is designed to function 24 hours per day. It 
 should always have food high in fiber to work with.
 Plenty of HCL and enzymes are required for the upper system to do the job 
 before the food gets to the colon.
 
 Heck, recently I ate some raw fern leaves. I was amazed how good they 
 tasted.  I would have eaten more but they my contain chemical that are not 
 needed.  I eat raw okra, raw field peas, peppers and squash, and of course 
 tomatoes.   I also eat wild huckleberries, wild cherries,  and wild 
 blackberries.  The blueberries are not so wild.
 
 Soon, many cantaloupes and watermelons.  The colon can stand this kind of 
 work.  That is what it was designed to do.
 
 I welcome any comments. If you think I am crazy, tell me so.
 
 Wayne
 
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Re: CSThe Poor Colon

2007-06-25 Thread Leslie

OK, gotcha. How do you get plenty of HCL and enzymes naturally?

Leslie
- Original Message - 
From: CWFugitt c_wa...@earthlink.net

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 4:18 AM
Subject: CSThe Poor Colon




 Morning Ruth and the list,

 I have read virtually all the messages on the digestion system,
primarily the colon.

Here are some of my far out and radical ideas.  Some may sound cruel, but 
this is the way I see it.


The poor colon catches everything one throws at it over all the years.
In addition, it suffers from all the mistakes and short comings of the 
upper digestion system and the owner.


This includes much bogus food,  improper food combining,
worthless foods, low fiber foods, glue based food,  breads that should not 
be fed to a dog, maybe not even to a pig.


It virtually never gets enough fiber based on the amount stated that we 
need everyday.  Average fiber intake is about 1/3 the amount needed. 
Often it is listed as 20 to 40 grams. Of course this would be about two 
pounds or some fiber foods. Maybe even 2.5 pounds.


Shortcomings made in the mouth and digestion problems in the stomach are 
all sent to the poor colon, which must suffer the consequences.


In older people, most have had an HCL deficiency for many years.
These same people have had virtually every kind of digestion problem known 
to man.


The colon catches hell.  Then we wonder why it gets many problems.

The cause is virtually Handwriting on the wall and etched in stone.
Anyone that thinks any of these single treatments will solve the problems 
of years of abuse must go back to the drawing board.


It is not going to happen.

In my field, we have a term,  Beyond Economical Repair.
I think the medical field needs the same term, or one more descriptive.

One short real life story, ...  I had an aunt that lived to near 
90 years.  She had the worse diet in the world. Poor food, drank cokes all 
the time, and knew nothing about nutrition.


One thing. she took her HCL religiously.  It was prescribed in the 
40's and 50's. Of course I was only a teenager but my memory has been good 
over the years.  Knowing the few facts, and limited knowledge, I can only 
deduct that the HCL helped her overcome and live to an old age.


Most people over 40 fail to make enough HCL.  In the group that are sick 
enough to go to a doctor for any reason, 90 % of these fail to make enough 
HCL.


Blame the medical profession where they disserve it.

As I read all the different ailments and treatment for the digestion 
system, I come to only one conclusion.


The medical profession is a huge fraud and a bunch of thieves.
Many of my friends over 50 have these stupid colon scopes done regularly. 
They don't know how to spell digestion system and I don't think their 
doctors do either.


So, everyone needs to get back to the basics, and not 3, 5, or 25 years 
after a problem shows up.


Recently, I had an audiologist charge my insurance $ 775.00 of failed 
work.  He tried to program my speech processor 3 times and all were a 
total failure.  I will call them and try to get the charge cancelled. 
Maybe I can, or maybe not.


There are 1000 more fine points and facts, but I think most of you know 
them.


Again, the poor colon does not have a chance to function right.
The complete digestion system is designed to function 24 hours per day. It 
should always have food high in fiber to work with.
Plenty of HCL and enzymes are required for the upper system to do the job 
before the food gets to the colon.


Heck, recently I ate some raw fern leaves. I was amazed how good they 
tasted.  I would have eaten more but they my contain chemical that are not 
needed.  I eat raw okra, raw field peas, peppers and squash, and of course 
tomatoes.   I also eat wild huckleberries, wild cherries,  and wild 
blackberries.  The blueberries are not so wild.


Soon, many cantaloupes and watermelons.  The colon can stand this kind of 
work.  That is what it was designed to do.


I welcome any comments. If you think I am crazy, tell me so.

Wayne

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Re: CSThe Poor Colon

2007-06-25 Thread CWFugitt

Evening Leslie,

At 11:58 AM 6/25/2007, you wrote:


OK, gotcha. How do you get plenty of HCL and enzymes naturally?


   You ask a loaded question.

   You don't get HCL, unless you take a supplement.

You are supposed to make it as needed.

   Wayne


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Re: CSThe Poor Colon, Dogs, Dog Herb

2007-06-25 Thread Dee
Thanks Wayne.  One of my dogs used to always eat the new aubretia plants
every spring, and she was the longest lived of my dogs even though the rest
of her food was junk. Dee  

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why, but it might not be a good idea to hang around and find out. 

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---Original Message--- 

 

From: CWFugitt 

Date: 25/06/2007 17:40:28 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: CSThe Poor Colon, Dogs, Dog Herb 

 

Morning Dee, 

 

 At 05:34 AM 6/25/2007, you wrote: 

What is HCL please? 

 

Hydrochloric Acid. I should have spelled it out at least once. 

 

I understand dogs make it 6 times as strong as humans. I have seen my dog 

Lay around chewing on a dead rat that smelled very bad,  While the 

Bowl was full of dog food. 

 


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RE: CSThe Poor Colon, Dogs, Dog Herb

2007-06-25 Thread Dan Nave
Wayne,

It kind of looks like Echinacea; some type of Coneflower.

Dan

-Original Message-
From: CWFugitt [mailto:c_wa...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 11:06 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSThe Poor Colon, Dogs, Dog Herb


My dog eats one kind of weed leaves.  She will strip the plant of
leaves, and has selected this same weed year after year.

I have a picture of the weed on my website.  Sent the picture to Texas A
and M and they could not identify it.

http://www.fugitt.com/files/dog_herb.JPG

These will grow 8 to 10 feet tall.  This one got under one of my drip
lines.

Maybe someone will recognize it.

Wayne


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Re: CSThe Poor Colon

2007-06-25 Thread ruth strackbein
Hi, Wayne, If you do decide to call, on Monday and Friday evenings call 
after 8 or 9 p.m This Dr. I have phone consultations with sometimes calls me 
back at very odd hours, depending on his surgical schedule.  Ruth



From Ruth Strackbein




From: Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSThe Poor Colon
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 11:58:55 -0500

OK, gotcha. How do you get plenty of HCL and enzymes naturally?

Leslie
- Original Message - From: CWFugitt c_wa...@earthlink.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 4:18 AM
Subject: CSThe Poor Colon




 Morning Ruth and the list,

 I have read virtually all the messages on the digestion system,
primarily the colon.

Here are some of my far out and radical ideas.  Some may sound cruel, but 
this is the way I see it.


The poor colon catches everything one throws at it over all the years.
In addition, it suffers from all the mistakes and short comings of the 
upper digestion system and the owner.


This includes much bogus food,  improper food combining,
worthless foods, low fiber foods, glue based food,  breads that should not 
be fed to a dog, maybe not even to a pig.


It virtually never gets enough fiber based on the amount stated that we 
need everyday.  Average fiber intake is about 1/3 the amount needed. Often 
it is listed as 20 to 40 grams. Of course this would be about two pounds 
or some fiber foods. Maybe even 2.5 pounds.


Shortcomings made in the mouth and digestion problems in the stomach are 
all sent to the poor colon, which must suffer the consequences.


In older people, most have had an HCL deficiency for many years.
These same people have had virtually every kind of digestion problem known 
to man.


The colon catches hell.  Then we wonder why it gets many problems.

The cause is virtually Handwriting on the wall and etched in stone.
Anyone that thinks any of these single treatments will solve the problems 
of years of abuse must go back to the drawing board.


It is not going to happen.

In my field, we have a term,  Beyond Economical Repair.
I think the medical field needs the same term, or one more descriptive.

One short real life story, ...  I had an aunt that lived to near 
90 years.  She had the worse diet in the world. Poor food, drank cokes all 
the time, and knew nothing about nutrition.


One thing. she took her HCL religiously.  It was prescribed in the 
40's and 50's. Of course I was only a teenager but my memory has been good 
over the years.  Knowing the few facts, and limited knowledge, I can only 
deduct that the HCL helped her overcome and live to an old age.


Most people over 40 fail to make enough HCL.  In the group that are sick 
enough to go to a doctor for any reason, 90 % of these fail to make enough 
HCL.


Blame the medical profession where they disserve it.

As I read all the different ailments and treatment for the digestion 
system, I come to only one conclusion.


The medical profession is a huge fraud and a bunch of thieves.
Many of my friends over 50 have these stupid colon scopes done regularly. 
They don't know how to spell digestion system and I don't think their 
doctors do either.


So, everyone needs to get back to the basics, and not 3, 5, or 25 years 
after a problem shows up.


Recently, I had an audiologist charge my insurance $ 775.00 of failed 
work.  He tried to program my speech processor 3 times and all were a 
total failure.  I will call them and try to get the charge cancelled. 
Maybe I can, or maybe not.


There are 1000 more fine points and facts, but I think most of you know 
them.


Again, the poor colon does not have a chance to function right.
The complete digestion system is designed to function 24 hours per day. It 
should always have food high in fiber to work with.
Plenty of HCL and enzymes are required for the upper system to do the job 
before the food gets to the colon.


Heck, recently I ate some raw fern leaves. I was amazed how good they 
tasted.  I would have eaten more but they my contain chemical that are not 
needed.  I eat raw okra, raw field peas, peppers and squash, and of course 
tomatoes.   I also eat wild huckleberries, wild cherries,  and wild 
blackberries.  The blueberries are not so wild.


Soon, many cantaloupes and watermelons.  The colon can stand this kind of 
work.  That is what it was designed to do.


I welcome any comments. If you think I am crazy, tell me so.

Wayne

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Re: CSThe Poor Colon --What is HCL?? ( hydrochloric acid)

2007-06-25 Thread M1marine
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Re: CSThe Poor Colon --What is HCL?? ( hydrochloric acid)

2007-06-25 Thread ruth strackbein
Hi, This is an excellent site for diagnosis and ideas for treatment.  Will 
explore it further.  Thanks for sharing it, m1mar...@aol.com. Ruth



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Re: CSThe Poor Colon, Dogs, Dog Herb

2007-06-25 Thread dd611

Wayne,
That plant looks so familiar - I looked through my audubon feild guides 
but can't find what it is.

Does the plant flower?
Dennis

CWFugitt wrote:

Morning Dee,

 At 05:34 AM 6/25/2007, you wrote:

What is HCL please?


  Hydrochloric Acid.  I should have spelled it out at least once.

I understand dogs make it 6 times as strong as humans.  I have seen my 
dog lay around chewing on a dead rat that smelled very bad,  
while the bowl was full of dog food.


That must be telling us a lot.  We can learn a lot from dogs.

My dog eats one kind of weed leaves.  She will strip the plant of 
leaves, and has selected this same weed year after year.


I have a picture of the weed on my website.  Sent the picture to
Texas A and M and they could not identify it.

http://www.fugitt.com/files/dog_herb.JPG

These will grow 8 to 10 feet tall.  This one got under one of my drip 
lines.


Maybe someone will recognize it.

Wayne


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