Re: CSBaking soda
Melly Bag wrote: I have come across an article once that Arm and Hammer baking soda is from Trona Mine. This baking soda is processed from soda ash from Trona ore (used for making glass also, fiberglass, etc.). I don'at know which Trona mine AH sources their soda ash. Not all Trona mines are good though. Some could have petroleum industry pollutions through leaks. Melly Trona is the raw ore from which soda ash is produced. Church and Dwight refines soda ash into baking soda. They buy their soda ash from mines in Green River, WY. I believe they buy from all the mines at one time or another, depending on price. Bob's Red mill probably buys their baking soda from Church and Dwight, but I don't know for sure, they could be buying it from China..but since the mines here produce 90% of the soda ash used in the U.S. it isn't very likely. http://trib.com/news/state-and-regional/article_4770f014-e897-56e1-bf07-18d79c6989f4.html About 95 percent of Chinese soda ash production is done through an energy-intensive synthetic process. China produced more than 13 million short tons in 2008. I live in Green River, WY, and my husband retired 3 years ago after 33 years working in an underground trona mine. He has never heard of a petroleum industry pollution leak, ever. The trona patch is all one contiguous (if I use that word correctly) thing really, the various companies lease mining rights to an area, but basically all the mines are working one huge deposit. It isn't like following veins of coal or something. http://www.wma-minelife.com/trona/tronmine/data.htm http://clui.org/ludb/site/fmc-trona-mine http://www.tatachemicals.com/north-america/our_company/Green_River_facility.html sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSBaking soda
I have come across an article once that Arm and Hammer baking soda is from Trona Mine. This baking soda is processed from soda ash from Trona ore (used for making glass also, fiberglass, etc.). I don'at know which Trona mine AH sources their soda ash. Not all Trona mines are good though. Some could have petroleum industry pollutions through leaks. Melly
Re: CSBaking Soda fungus--Fungus on pine trees
In a message dated 6/29/2010 3:25:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, brick...@aol.com writes: If you use pine needles for tea make sure that the needles were not painted or sprayed. Pine trees also are noted for having fungus problems and are supposed to get weekly sprayings of a fungicide during their growing season. Brickley, I live in the woods, surrounded by white pine trees other pines have never seen fungus on them nor have they ever had to be sprayed... What part of the country has this happen ?... Just curious --Thanks Lois
Re: CSBaking Soda fungus--Fungus on pine trees
I live in the Pacific Northwest with lots of rain. I raise Christmas trees and have to pay attention to how the tree looks. I had customers buy pine trees for Christmas who said that after Christmas they made tea out of the needles and even the bark (Pycnoganol). I used to paint the pines to cover their yellow needles caused by a fungus. I stopped painting the trees after they told me what they did. Guess what? Sales of pine trees dropped off as they were more interested in looks. Brickey
Re: CSBaking Soda fungus--Fungus on pine trees
Bricky, I bet if you advertised the fact that you don't paint or treat your trees you'd sell a heck of alot more. Especially if folks know they can make theraputic teas from the needles and bark. Bob - Original Message - From: brick...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 6:01 PM Subject: Re: CSBaking Soda fungus--Fungus on pine trees I live in the Pacific Northwest with lots of rain. I raise Christmas trees and have to pay attention to how the tree looks. I had customers buy pine trees for Christmas who said that after Christmas they made tea out of the needles and even the bark (Pycnoganol). I used to paint the pines to cover their yellow needles caused by a fungus. I stopped painting the trees after they told me what they did. Guess what? Sales of pine trees dropped off as they were more interested in looks. Brickey
CSBaking Soda
No response to why Baking Soda fights fungus, so I will give my reason to use it for sinus flushes. DR Tulio Simoncini? on the TV show Know The Cause made a white colored colon tumor shrink and turn into a pink colon after 5 Baking Soda soaks. This was shown on his show. He says the white tumor was a fungus, some say it was the big C. He treats the big C with Baking Soda in his clinic in Italy, with good results. One of my Christmas tree customers had fungus in her sinus that destroyed her jaw bone. It can be a real problem so I use anything that even might control my sinus fungus problem. If you use pine needles for tea make sure that the needles were not painted or sprayed. Pine trees also are noted for having fungus problems and are supposed to get weekly sprayings of a fungicide during their growing season. I treated my rose bushes which had fungus on their leafs with Baking Soda mixed in water. It made the fungus go dormant so the new leafs looked OK. The spray only helps the new growth. I saw how Baking Soda helps with fungus on roses. Brickey
Re: CSBaking Soda
Brickley, Did you see the recent post about someone using corn meal (uncooked) to control rose fungus? Also used in a paste on the feet for toenail fungus. Dan On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 2:24 PM, brick...@aol.com wrote: No response to why Baking Soda fights fungus, so I will give my reason to use it for sinus flushes. DR Tulio Simoncini? on the TV show Know The Cause made a white colored colon tumor shrink and turn into a pink colon after 5 Baking Soda soaks. This was shown on his show. He says the white tumor was a fungus, some say it was the big C. He treats the big C with Baking Soda in his clinic in Italy, with good results. One of my Christmas tree customers had fungus in her sinus that destroyed her jaw bone. It can be a real problem so I use anything that even might control my sinus fungus problem. If you use pine needles for tea make sure that the needles were not painted or sprayed. Pine trees also are noted for having fungus problems and are supposed to get weekly sprayings of a fungicide during their growing season. I treated my rose bushes which had fungus on their leafs with Baking Soda mixed in water. It made the fungus go dormant so the new leafs looked OK. The spray only helps the new growth. I saw how Baking Soda helps with fungus on roses. Brickey -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBaking Soda
Thanks, Brickey. This is really interesting information and I will keep it in mind. PT - Original Message - From: brick...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 3:24 PM Subject: CSBaking Soda No response to why Baking Soda fights fungus, so I will give my reason to use it for sinus flushes. DR Tulio Simoncini? on the TV show Know The Cause made a white colored colon tumor shrink and turn into a pink colon after 5 Baking Soda soaks. This was shown on his show. He says the white tumor was a fungus, some say it was the big C. He treats the big C with Baking Soda in his clinic in Italy, with good results. One of my Christmas tree customers had fungus in her sinus that destroyed her jaw bone. It can be a real problem so I use anything that even might control my sinus fungus problem. If you use pine needles for tea make sure that the needles were not painted or sprayed. Pine trees also are noted for having fungus problems and are supposed to get weekly sprayings of a fungicide during their growing season. I treated my rose bushes which had fungus on their leafs with Baking Soda mixed in water. It made the fungus go dormant so the new leafs looked OK. The spray only helps the new growth. I saw how Baking Soda helps with fungus on roses. Brickey
CSbaking soda vs. baking powder
These are two very different things. The substance called baking powder is used in baked goods to provide a release of gas bubbles and cause bread products to rise. Rumsford brand has no aluminum; most others do. Baking soda is the one we use to get proper ph. I mention this because there seems to be some confusion here. We are thinking the soda and powder are the same thing and they are not. pj
Re: CSbaking soda vs. baking powder
Shirley, there's also confusion because the label on Bob's Red Mill baking SODA states aluminum free. I asked them why and they replied that other brands (eg. AH) used to have aluminum, but don't anymore. Alan On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Shirley Reed pj20fl...@gmail.com wrote: These are two very different things. The substance called baking powder is used in baked goods to provide a release of gas bubbles and cause bread products to rise. Rumsford brand has no aluminum; most others do. Baking soda is the one we use to get proper ph. I mention this because there seems to be some confusion here. We are thinking the soda and powder are the same thing and they are not. pj -- Alan Jones
CSbaking soda vs. baking powder
Hi PJ, I know there are two different substances; baking powder and baking soda. If Arm Hammer is aluminum free, why wouldn't they advertise this? It is unlike a company to not use every advantage when advertising. Someone said AH used to have aluminum but now does not? It is a perfect time to let everyone know they are aluminum free, unless they aren't. Until then, the baking soda declared to be aluminum free shall be the brand I buy. Jean These are two very different things. The substance called baking powder is used in baked goods to provide a release of gas bubbles and cause bread products to rise. Rumsford brand has no aluminum; most others do. Baking soda is the one we use to get proper ph. I mention this because there seems to be some confusion here. We are thinking the soda and powder are the same thing and they are not. pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSbaking soda vs. baking powder
Jean Baugh wrote: Hi PJ, I know there are two different substances; baking powder and baking soda. If Arm Hammer is aluminum free, why wouldn't they advertise this? I would assume for the same reason that coke and other beverages, salt, spices, bread, eggs, milk and any other commodity that is aluminum free does not say so. If they listed everything that is NOT in it, the label would have to be huge. It is unlike a company to not use every advantage when advertising. Someone said AH used to have aluminum but now does not? It is a chemical. The formula shows that chemical has only sodium, carbon, oxygen and hydrogen in it. It could never have aluminum in it and be pure baking soda. It is a perfect time to let everyone know they are aluminum free, unless they aren't. Until then, the baking soda declared to be aluminum free shall be the brand I buy. I guess that would be Arm and Hammer than, since they have declared it aluminum free. Marshall Jean These are two very different things. The substance called baking powder is used in baked goods to provide a release of gas bubbles and cause bread products to rise. Rumsford brand has no aluminum; most others do. Baking soda is the one we use to get proper ph. I mention this because there seems to be some confusion here. We are thinking the soda and powder are the same thing and they are not. pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSbaking soda vs. baking powder
Hi Marshall, Unlike other multi ingredient products, baking soda would have plenty of room to declare anything they wanted to. AH has not declared their baking soda to be aluminum free on the boxes I have, which are in date. Here is an interesting link: http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?p=14021666 Jean * I would assume for the same reason that coke and other beverages, salt, spices, bread, eggs, milk and any other commodity that is aluminum free does not say so. If they listed everything that is NOT in it, the label would have to be huge. I guess that would be Arm and Hammer than, since they have declared it aluminum free. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSbaking soda vs. baking powder
But make sure you stay away from Bob's Red Mil Baking Soda, it has arsenic in it. After all, the label doesn't declare that it NOT in there, right? AJ On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Jean Baugh oldgl...@bigcountry.net wrote: Hi PJ, I know there are two different substances; baking powder and baking soda. If Arm Hammer is aluminum free, why wouldn't they advertise this? It is unlike a company to not use every advantage when advertising. Someone said AH used to have aluminum but now does not? It is a perfect time to let everyone know they are aluminum free, unless they aren't. Until then, the baking soda declared to be aluminum free shall be the brand I buy. Jean These are two very different things. The substance called baking powder is used in baked goods to provide a release of gas bubbles and cause bread products to rise. Rumsford brand has no aluminum; most others do. Baking soda is the one we use to get proper ph. I mention this because there seems to be some confusion here. We are thinking the soda and powder are the same thing and they are not. pj -- Alan Jones
Re: CSbaking soda vs. baking powder
Jean Baugh wrote: Hi Marshall, Unlike other multi ingredient products, baking soda would have plenty of room to declare anything they wanted to. I don't follow. Baking soda is not a multi ingredient product, it is a chemical. What do you mean they would have plenty of room to declare anything they wanted to? That just does not make any sense. You list the ingredients on a package, not the hundreds of trillions of ingredients that are not in the product. Not only that but the FDA has taken stands against companies that have put that they don't contain certain things on their products, they consider it false advertising in that it implies that others do contain them when they don't. AH has not declared their baking soda to be aluminum free on the boxes I have, which are in date. Actually they have, if it is not listed on the box, it isn't in there. Plus they have declared it in the email I posted earlier, addressing that one specific element. Here is an interesting link: http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?p=14021666 Seems they contradict themselves in their own statements: ALUMINUM FREE and Not Processed with Chemicals vs. water is used to extract the sodium bicarbonate and no chemicals are used. Uhh, I think they need to take a course in either logic or chemistry. Water is a chemical. Marshall Jean * I would assume for the same reason that coke and other beverages, salt, spices, bread, eggs, milk and any other commodity that is aluminum free does not say so. If they listed everything that is NOT in it, the label would have to be huge. I guess that would be Arm and Hammer than, since they have declared it aluminum free. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSbaking soda vs. baking powder
Alright youse guys, You win. I will buy what I want to buy and you can buy what you want to buy. Jean *** FREE and Not Processed with Chemicals vs. water is used to extract the sodium bicarbonate and no chemicals are used. Uhh, I think they need to take a course in either logic or chemistry. Water is a chemical. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSbaking soda vs. baking powder
No, Marshall is correct here. Every single thing on earth is made up of smaller components. The molecules are made of elements, and the Periodic Table is a useful representation of all known elements; ie, the basic building blocks of all matter in the universe. The basic building blocks of baking soda, which is also called sodium bicarbonate, is : NaHCO3 Nacolite is the naturally occuring mineral form of baking soda. Trona and Natron are some of the naturally occuring minerals of sodium carbonate, and are mined. Baking soda is one of them. I don't think it can just be taken out of the earth and used as is, I think they have to purify it- in fact, according to wikipedia, nearly all the baking soda is produced in the lab, and that is very pure. Where aluminum might creep in is either through impurities in the rock, unclean processing, or from some other error. Natural minerals often have trace amounts of various elements in them, including many that can be poisonous. I am sure that AH goes the distance in assuring the general safety of their soda. On reading the thread you posted, it looks as if Bob's brand is made from the nacolite rock in Colorado- even in the wiki article it talks about that deposit, and how much more costly it is to get usable baking soda- that is likely the reason for the cost difference. Nothing wrong with using that, if that is what you feel like doing. It also states that most is produced with a chemical reaction between soda ash and carbon dioxide- that is exactly the natural process that occurs in the rocks- the nacolite undergoes the reverse rxn and decays to that- and probably to washing soda- sodium carbonate. Anyway, baking soda has to be NaHCO3 or it can't be called that. It can't have anything else in it, or it would violate labeling laws. It should be very pure. With all that said, if I had cancer and wanted to do the maple syrup/baking soda treatment, I would probably spring for the Bob's brand, since it does have a track record of working for that. If I was just baking cookies, I use arm and hammer. I love how it cleans, too. Best Wishes, Kathryn On Jul 20, 2009, at 3:38 PM, Jean Baugh wrote: Hi Marshall, Unlike other multi ingredient products, baking soda would have plenty of room to declare anything they wanted to. AH has not declared their baking soda to be aluminum free on the boxes I have, which are in date. Here is an interesting link: http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?p=14021666 Jean * I wou -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSBaking Soda for Skin Cancer???
Would baking soda applied to skin cancer, possibly with DMSO take care of skin cancer if it works internally wouldn't this be an answer for skin cancer? Thanks in advance for your response.
Re: CSBaking Soda for Skin Cancer???
My first choice would be a black salve containing cansema. Good info here http://www.altcancer.com/ Chuck A real friend isn't someone you use and throw away. A real friend is someone who you use again and again. On 4/14/2009 11:07:45 AM, Carl Deb Charter (carl...@charter.net) wrote: Would baking soda applied to skin cancer, possibly with DMSO take care of skin cancer if it works internally wouldn't this be an answer for skin cancer? Thanks in advance for your response. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.11.56/2058 - Release Date: 04/14/09 06:17:00
Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus
Hi Mary -- I'll do it. Thank you so much for all the information -- I'd so love to get rid of this toenail fungus, which I've been trying to get rid of for years. Mary Ann From: mborg...@att.net mborg...@att.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 11:26:28 PM Subject: Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus If you wish to know more go to www.earthclinic.com -- Original message from MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net: -- Hi Mary. OK -- I can do this. And you're saying that this actually did something about his toenail fungus? I can hardly believe it could be so easy. MA From: mborg...@att.net mborg...@att.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 9:13:23 PM Subject: Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus Hi Braggs acv has the mother in it, but some suggested that the mother is actually a yeast/fungus. This is too expensive, walmart has a gallon acv much cheeper and it works. I bought a plastic shoe box a walmart it will hold both feet, simply put feet in and cover up to the toes with acv, keep in for a hour at a time, you can use whenever you wish some say you can reuse the acv, which we did. Mary -- Original message from MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net: -- Hi Mary -- what do you mean without the mother? And what exactly did he do with the ACV? Thanks. MA From: mborg...@att.net mborg...@att.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 8:47:58 PM Subject: Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus A few years ago my husband had a very bad case of toe nail fungus, apple cider vinegar was the answer. I bought the gallon apple cider vinegar without the mother. It took a few days but it never came back. -- Original message from MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net: -- Write to the list please -- I need this information too. MA From: Elizabeth Williams belzi...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 3:41:26 PM Subject: RE: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus Can you write me specifically your method that has worked, I know someone who has bad toenail fungus? Elizabeth Williams belzi...@hotmail.com From: brick...@aol.com Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:23:54 -0400 Subject: Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus To: silver-list@eskimo.com I am doing 1 hour foot baths with baking soda to kill toe nail fungus. I understand from Doug Kaufman that it is the same fungus that is in cancer. If baking soda kills the fungus inside the body it should also kill the toe nail fungus. I also use a gallon of CS + some DMSO. I tried 2 bottles of Vicks, Diflucan 200 mg, MMS foot baths, electric contacts in 2 separate tubs (DR Lyoyd), one contact from my GB4000 zapper in the tub mixture, and my low level infrared laser. Still have the fungus. Duncan Crow said to use CS + DMSO for 3 months. I found the fungus actually was up the sides of my ankles. After the tub soak I dry my feet with a hair dryer and wear part wool stockings. I bought new shoes and got rid of my old shoes. After one month using the baking soda mixture I see white moons showing at the bottoms of my toe nails. Brickey Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. Quick access to your favorite MSN content and Windows Live with Internet Explorer 8. Download FREE now!
Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus
Mary ann When I was in cosmetology school,3 yrs ago, the teachers also said to use Listerine, used the same way, but I do not think it can be re-used it must be discarded. Mary -- Original message from MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net: -- Hi Mary -- I'll do it. Thank you so much for all the information -- I'd so love to get rid of this toenail fungus, which I've been trying to get rid of for years. Mary Ann From: "mborg...@att.net" mborg...@att.netTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSent: Friday, April 10, 2009 11:26:28 PMSubject: Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus If you wish to know more go to www.earthclinic.com -- Original message from MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net: -- Hi Mary. OK -- I can do this. And you're saying that this actually did something about his toenail fungus? I can hardly believe it could be so easy. MA From: "mborg...@att.net" mborg...@att.netTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSent: Friday, April 10, 2009 9:13:23 PMSubject: Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus Hi Braggs acv has the mother in it, but some suggested that the mother is actually a yeast/fungus. This is too expensive, walmart has a gallon acv much cheeper and it works. I bought a plastic shoe box a walmart it will hold both feet, simply put feet in and cover up tothe toes with acv, keep in for a hour at a time, you can use whenever you wish some say you can reuse the acv, which we did. Mary -- Original message from MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net: -- Hi Mary -- what do you mean "without the mother"? And what exactly did he do with the ACV? Thanks. MA From: "mborg...@att.net" mborg...@att.netTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSent: Friday, April 10, 2009 8:47:58 PMSubject: Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus A few years ago my husband had a very bad case of toe nail fungus, apple cider vinegar was the answer. I bought the gallon apple cider vinegar without the mother. It took a few days but it never came back. -- Original message from MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net: -- Write to the list please -- I need this information too. MA From: Elizabeth Williams belzi...@hotmail.comTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSent: Friday, April 10, 2009 3:41:26 PMSubject: RE: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus Can you write me specifically your method that has worked, I know someone who has bad toenail fungus?Elizabeth Williamsbelzi...@hotmail.com From: brick...@aol.comDate: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:23:54 -0400Subject: Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungusTo: silver-list@eskimo.com I am doing 1 hour foot baths with baking soda to kill toe nail fungus. I understand from Doug Kaufman that it is the same fungus that is in cancer. If baking soda kills the fungus inside the body it should also kill the toe nail fungus. I also use a gallon of CS + some DMSO. I tried 2 bottles of Vicks, Diflucan 200 mg, MMS foot baths, electric contacts in 2 separate tubs (DR Lyoyd), one contact from my GB4000 zapper in the tub mixture, and my low level infrared laser.Still have the fungus. Duncan Crow said to use CS + DMSO for 3 months. I found the fungus actually was up the sides of my ankles. After the tub soak I dry my feet with a hair dryer and wear part wool stockings. I bought new shoes and got rid of my old shoes. After one month using the baking soda mixture I see white moons showing at the bottoms of my toe nails. Brickey Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. Quick access to your favorite MSN content and Windows Live with Internet Explorer 8. Download FREE now!
Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus
In a message dated 4/10/2009 6:13:31 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, marmar...@bellsouth.net writes: e to the list please -- I need this information too. MA One gallon CS add 2 1/2 tablespoons baking soda Add 2 ounces DMSO heat place mixture in the plastic pan from Walmart big enough for both feet Soak feet for at least 20 minutes to one hour Dry feet with a hair dryer, especially the toe nails that are thick Wear part wool socks I strain the mixture and reuse. I found the fungus went clear to my toe bone. I could see the bone. The area filled back in within 3 or 4 days. I add a capfull DMSO about every week. Duncan Crow said to keep this up for 3 months. The baking soda mix is the same mix to use on plants for mildew. It is my idea added to Duncans procedure after watching the Italian Dr. on Know The Cause. Brickey **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001)
Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus
I used the Listerine treatment on my toes (and reused it) and it was gone within a few weeks. Put the listerine in a glass casserole dish big enough for my foot to fit in and deep enought to cover my toes comfortably. Soaked it for at least half-hour in the evening...do it somewhere that you can ventilate it...the fumes are not fun:) Helps if you have someone to dry your foot for you...keeps from dripping all over. Then stored the left over listerine in a jar...had to add a bit each day to makeup for what stayed on my foot. Tossed it when I was done. mborg...@att.net wrote: Mary ann When I was in cosmetology school,3 yrs ago, the teachers also said to use Listerine, used the same way, but I do not think it can be re-used it must be discarded. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus
Thank you for posting this, I'm saving it. -k On Apr 11, 2009, at 1:39 PM, brick...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 4/10/2009 6:13:31 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, marmar...@bellsouth.net writes: e to the list please -- I need this information too. MAOne gallon CS add 2 1/2 tablespoons baking soda Add 2 ounces DMSO heat place mixture in the plastic pan from Walmart big enough for both feet Soak feet for at least 20 minutes to one hour Dry feet with a hair dryer, especially the toe nails that are thick Wear part wool socks I strain the mixture and reuse. I found the fungus went clear to my toe bone. I could see the bone. The area filled back in within 3 or 4 days. I add a capfull DMSO about every week. Duncan Crow said to keep this up for 3 months. The baking soda mix is the same mix to use on plants for mildew. It is my idea added to Duncans procedure after watching the Italian Dr. on Know The Cause. Brickey She got a mudpack and looked great for two days. Then the mud fell off. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus
This is slightly OT, but I found it in my wandering and thought it might be helpful. The latest news in cancer therapy comes from Italy. An oncologist in Rome, Italy, Doctor Tullio Simoncini, is destroying cancer tumors with sodium bicarbonate. S. b. is safe, inexpensive, and extremely effective as an anti-cancer agent. It's from http://www.truthquest2.com/markSircusCancer.htm. --begin paste-- It’s an irresistible chemical, cyanide to cancer cells, for it hits the cancer cells with a shock wave of alkalinity, which allows much more oxygen into the cancer cells than they can tolerate. Cancer cells cannot survive in the presence of high levels of oxygen. Sodium bicarbonate is, for all intent and purposes, an instant killer of tumors. (http://www.nutrimedical.com/) Sodium bicarbonate is a chemical compound with the formula NaHCO3. Sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) is commonly used as an antacid for short-term relief of stomach upset, to correct acidosis in kidney disorders, to make the urine alkaline during bladder infections and to minimize uric acid crystallization during gout treatment. Prescription sodium bicarbonate products are given by injection to treat metabolic acidosis and some drug intoxications. Sodium bicarbonate is available as a nonprescription medical as well as a general house hold item. It is also used with other non-prescription drugs for short-term treatment of various conditions to treat anything from fever to moderate pain. Writes Dr. Simoncini: The fundamental reason and the motives that suggest a therapy with sodium bicarbonate against tumours is that, although with the concurrence of a myriad of variable concausal factors – the development and the local and remote proliferation of these tumours has a cause that is exclusively fungin. At the moment, against fungi there is no useful remedy other than, in my opinion, sodium bicarbonate. The anti-fungins that are currently on the market, in fact, do not have the ability to penetrate the (tumor) masses ... since they are conceived to act only at a stratified level of epithelial type. They are therefore unable to affect myceliar aggregations set volumetrically and also masked by the connectival reaction that attempts to circumscribe them. We have seen that fungi are also able to quickly mutate their genetic structure. That means that after an initial phase of sensitivity to fungicides, in a short time they are able to codify them and to metabolise them without being damaged by them – rather, paradoxically, they extract a benefit from their high toxicity on the organism. This happens, for example, in the prostateinvasive carcinoma with congealed pelvis. For this affliction, there is a therapy with anti-fungins which at first is very effective at the symptomatological level but through time it consistently loses its effectiveness. Sodium bicarbonate, instead, as it is extremely diffusible and without that structural complexity that fungi can easily codify, retains for a long time its ability to penetrate the (tumor) masses. This is also and especially due to the speed at which it disintegrates them, which makes fungi’s adaptability impossible, thus it cannot defend itself. A therapy with bicarbonate should therefore be set up with strong dosage, continuously, and with pauseless cycles in a destruction work which should proceed from the beginning to the end without interruption for at least 7-8 days for the first cycle, keeping in mind that a mass of 2-3-4 centimetres begins to consistently regress from the third to the fourth day, and collapses from the fourth to the fifth. Generally speaking, the maximum limit of the dosage that can be administered in a session gravitates around 500 cc of sodium bicarbonate at five per cent solution, with the possibility of increasing or decreasing the dosage by 20 per cent in function of the body mass of the individual to be treated and in the presence of multiple localisations upon which to apportion a greater quantity of salts. We must underline that the dosages indicated, as they are harmless, are the very same that have already been utilised without any problem for more than 30 years in a myriad of other morbid situations such as: * Severe diabetic ketoacidosis * Cardio-respiratory reanimation * Pregnancy * Haemodialysis * Peritoneal dialysis * Pharmacological toxicosis * Hepatopathy * Vascular surgery The discovery of Dr. Simoncini is that sodium bicarbonate is lethal to fungi. Why is that so significant for the cancer patient? A cancer cell survives by a fermentation-based metabolism. Where there is fermentation, there is yeast, that is, fungus. Remember: In every very sick cancer cell resides a very healthy fungal microbe. It is the fungus that keeps the cancer cell alive. If we want to kill the fungus - or fungal colony - in the cancer cell, we want to lead the sodium bicarbonate into the cancer cell. How can this be done?
Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus
I am doing 1 hour foot baths with baking soda to kill toe nail fungus. I understand from Doug Kaufman that it is the same fungus that is in cancer. If baking soda kills the fungus inside the body it should also kill the toe nail fungus. I also use a gallon of CS + some DMSO. I tried 2 bottles of Vicks, Diflucan 200 mg, MMS foot baths, electric contacts in 2 separate tubs (DR Lyoyd), one contact from my GB4000 zapper in the tub mixture, and my low level infrared laser. Still have the fungus. Duncan Crow said to use CS + DMSO for 3 months. I found the fungus actually was up the sides of my ankles. After the tub soak I dry my feet with a hair dryer and wear part wool stockings. I bought new shoes and got rid of my old shoes. After one month using the baking soda mixture I see white moons showing at the bottoms of my toe nails. Brickey **Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood0001)
RE: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus
Can you write me specifically your method that has worked, I know someone who has bad toenail fungus? Elizabeth Williams belzi...@hotmail.com From: brick...@aol.com Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:23:54 -0400 Subject: Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus To: silver-list@eskimo.com I am doing 1 hour foot baths with baking soda to kill toe nail fungus. I understand from Doug Kaufman that it is the same fungus that is in cancer. If baking soda kills the fungus inside the body it should also kill the toe nail fungus. I also use a gallon of CS + some DMSO. I tried 2 bottles of Vicks, Diflucan 200 mg, MMS foot baths, electric contacts in 2 separate tubs (DR Lyoyd), one contact from my GB4000 zapper in the tub mixture, and my low level infrared laser. Still have the fungus. Duncan Crow said to use CS + DMSO for 3 months. I found the fungus actually was up the sides of my ankles. After the tub soak I dry my feet with a hair dryer and wear part wool stockings. I bought new shoes and got rid of my old shoes. After one month using the baking soda mixture I see white moons showing at the bottoms of my toe nails. Brickey Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. _ Quick access to your favorite MSN content and Windows Live with Internet Explorer 8. http://ie8.msn.com/microsoft/internet-explorer-8/en-us/ie8.aspx?ocid=B037MSN55C0701A
Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus
Write to the list please -- I need this information too. MA From: Elizabeth Williams belzi...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 3:41:26 PM Subject: RE: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus Can you write me specifically your method that has worked, I know someone who has bad toenail fungus? Elizabeth Williams belzi...@hotmail.com From: brick...@aol.com Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:23:54 -0400 Subject: Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus To: silver-list@eskimo.com I am doing 1 hour foot baths with baking soda to kill toe nail fungus. I understand from Doug Kaufman that it is the same fungus that is in cancer. If baking soda kills the fungus inside the body it should also kill the toe nail fungus. I also use a gallon of CS + some DMSO. I tried 2 bottles of Vicks, Diflucan 200 mg, MMS foot baths, electric contacts in 2 separate tubs (DR Lyoyd), one contact from my GB4000 zapper in the tub mixture, and my low level infrared laser. Still have the fungus. Duncan Crow said to use CS + DMSO for 3 months. I found the fungus actually was up the sides of my ankles. After the tub soak I dry my feet with a hair dryer and wear part wool stockings. I bought new shoes and got rid of my old shoes. After one month using the baking soda mixture I see white moons showing at the bottoms of my toe nails. Brickey Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. Quick access to your favorite MSN content and Windows Live with Internet Explorer 8. Download FREE now!
Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus
A few years ago my husband had a very bad case of toe nail fungus, apple cider vinegar was the answer. I bought the gallon apple cider vinegar without the mother. It took a few days but it never came back. -- Original message from MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net: -- Write to the list please -- I need this information too. MA From: Elizabeth Williams belzi...@hotmail.comTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSent: Friday, April 10, 2009 3:41:26 PMSubject: RE: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus Can you write me specifically your method that has worked, I know someone who has bad toenail fungus?Elizabeth Williamsbelzi...@hotmail.com From: brick...@aol.comDate: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:23:54 -0400Subject: Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungusTo: silver-list@eskimo.com I am doing 1 hour foot baths with baking soda to kill toe nail fungus. I understand from Doug Kaufman that it is the same fungus that is in cancer. If baking soda kills the fungus inside the body it should also kill the toe nail fungus. I also use a gallon of CS + some DMSO. I tried 2 bottles of Vicks, Diflucan 200 mg, MMS foot baths, electric contacts in 2 separate tubs (DR Lyoyd), one contact from my GB4000 zapper in the tub mixture, and my low level infrared laser.Still have the fungus. Duncan Crow said to use CS + DMSO for 3 months. I found the fungus actually was up the sides of my ankles. After the tub soak I dry my feet with a hair dryer and wear part wool stockings. I bought new shoes and got rid of my old shoes. After one month using the baking soda mixture I see white moons showing at the bottoms of my toe nails. Brickey Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. Quick access to your favorite MSN content and Windows Live with Internet Explorer 8. Download FREE now!
Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus
Hi Mary -- what do you mean without the mother? And what exactly did he do with the ACV? Thanks. MA From: mborg...@att.net mborg...@att.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 8:47:58 PM Subject: Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus A few years ago my husband had a very bad case of toe nail fungus, apple cider vinegar was the answer. I bought the gallon apple cider vinegar without the mother. It took a few days but it never came back. -- Original message from MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net: -- Write to the list please -- I need this information too. MA From: Elizabeth Williams belzi...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 3:41:26 PM Subject: RE: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus Can you write me specifically your method that has worked, I know someone who has bad toenail fungus? Elizabeth Williams belzi...@hotmail.com From: brick...@aol.com Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:23:54 -0400 Subject: Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus To: silver-list@eskimo.com I am doing 1 hour foot baths with baking soda to kill toe nail fungus. I understand from Doug Kaufman that it is the same fungus that is in cancer. If baking soda kills the fungus inside the body it should also kill the toe nail fungus. I also use a gallon of CS + some DMSO. I tried 2 bottles of Vicks, Diflucan 200 mg, MMS foot baths, electric contacts in 2 separate tubs (DR Lyoyd), one contact from my GB4000 zapper in the tub mixture, and my low level infrared laser. Still have the fungus. Duncan Crow said to use CS + DMSO for 3 months. I found the fungus actually was up the sides of my ankles. After the tub soak I dry my feet with a hair dryer and wear part wool stockings. I bought new shoes and got rid of my old shoes. After one month using the baking soda mixture I see white moons showing at the bottoms of my toe nails. Brickey Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. Quick access to your favorite MSN content and Windows Live with Internet Explorer 8. Download FREE now!
Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus
Hi Braggs acv has the mother in it, but some suggested that the mother is actually a yeast/fungus. This is too expensive, walmart has a gallon acv much cheeper and it works. I bought a plastic shoe box a walmart it will hold both feet, simply put feet in and cover up tothe toes with acv, keep in for a hour at a time, you can use whenever you wish some say you can reuse the acv, which we did. Mary -- Original message from MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net: -- Hi Mary -- what do you mean "without the mother"? And what exactly did he do with the ACV? Thanks. MA From: "mborg...@att.net" mborg...@att.netTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSent: Friday, April 10, 2009 8:47:58 PMSubject: Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus A few years ago my husband had a very bad case of toe nail fungus, apple cider vinegar was the answer. I bought the gallon apple cider vinegar without the mother. It took a few days but it never came back. -- Original message from MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net: -- Write to the list please -- I need this information too. MA From: Elizabeth Williams belzi...@hotmail.comTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSent: Friday, April 10, 2009 3:41:26 PMSubject: RE: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus Can you write me specifically your method that has worked, I know someone who has bad toenail fungus?Elizabeth Williamsbelzi...@hotmail.com From: brick...@aol.comDate: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:23:54 -0400Subject: Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungusTo: silver-list@eskimo.com I am doing 1 hour foot baths with baking soda to kill toe nail fungus. I understand from Doug Kaufman that it is the same fungus that is in cancer. If baking soda kills the fungus inside the body it should also kill the toe nail fungus. I also use a gallon of CS + some DMSO. I tried 2 bottles of Vicks, Diflucan 200 mg, MMS foot baths, electric contacts in 2 separate tubs (DR Lyoyd), one contact from my GB4000 zapper in the tub mixture, and my low level infrared laser.Still have the fungus. Duncan Crow said to use CS + DMSO for 3 months. I found the fungus actually was up the sides of my ankles. After the tub soak I dry my feet with a hair dryer and wear part wool stockings. I bought new shoes and got rid of my old shoes. After one month using the baking soda mixture I see white moons showing at the bottoms of my toe nails. Brickey Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. Quick access to your favorite MSN content and Windows Live with Internet Explorer 8. Download FREE now!
Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus
MaryAnn, How was the ACV used? Topically or ingested orally? Bob - Original Message - From: mborg...@att.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 6:47 PM Subject: Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus A few years ago my husband had a very bad case of toe nail fungus, apple cider vinegar was the answer. I bought the gallon apple cider vinegar without the mother. It took a few days but it never came back. -- Original message from MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net: -- Write to the list please -- I need this information too. MA From: Elizabeth Williams belzi...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 3:41:26 PM Subject: RE: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus Can you write me specifically your method that has worked, I know someone who has bad toenail fungus? Elizabeth Williams belzi...@hotmail.com From: brick...@aol.com Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:23:54 -0400 Subject: Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus To: silver-list@eskimo.com I am doing 1 hour foot baths with baking soda to kill toe nail fungus. I understand from Doug Kaufman that it is the same fungus that is in cancer. If baking soda kills the fungus inside the body it should also kill the toe nail fungus. I also use a gallon of CS + some DMSO. I tried 2 bottles of Vicks, Diflucan 200 mg, MMS foot baths, electric contacts in 2 separate tubs (DR Lyoyd), one contact from my GB4000 zapper in the tub mixture, and my low level infrared laser. Still have the fungus. Duncan Crow said to use CS + DMSO for 3 months. I found the fungus actually was up the sides of my ankles. After the tub soak I dry my feet with a hair dryer and wear part wool stockings. I bought new shoes and got rid of my old shoes. After one month using the baking soda mixture I see white moons showing at the bottoms of my toe nails. Brickey Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. Quick access to your favorite MSN content and Windows Live with Internet Explorer 8. Download FREE now!
Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus
Hi Mary. OK -- I can do this. And you're saying that this actually did something about his toenail fungus? I can hardly believe it could be so easy. MA From: mborg...@att.net mborg...@att.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 9:13:23 PM Subject: Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus Hi Braggs acv has the mother in it, but some suggested that the mother is actually a yeast/fungus. This is too expensive, walmart has a gallon acv much cheeper and it works. I bought a plastic shoe box a walmart it will hold both feet, simply put feet in and cover up to the toes with acv, keep in for a hour at a time, you can use whenever you wish some say you can reuse the acv, which we did. Mary -- Original message from MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net: -- Hi Mary -- what do you mean without the mother? And what exactly did he do with the ACV? Thanks. MA From: mborg...@att.net mborg...@att.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 8:47:58 PM Subject: Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus A few years ago my husband had a very bad case of toe nail fungus, apple cider vinegar was the answer. I bought the gallon apple cider vinegar without the mother. It took a few days but it never came back. -- Original message from MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net: -- Write to the list please -- I need this information too. MA From: Elizabeth Williams belzi...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 3:41:26 PM Subject: RE: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus Can you write me specifically your method that has worked, I know someone who has bad toenail fungus? Elizabeth Williams belzi...@hotmail.com From: brick...@aol.com Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:23:54 -0400 Subject: Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus To: silver-list@eskimo.com I am doing 1 hour foot baths with baking soda to kill toe nail fungus. I understand from Doug Kaufman that it is the same fungus that is in cancer. If baking soda kills the fungus inside the body it should also kill the toe nail fungus. I also use a gallon of CS + some DMSO. I tried 2 bottles of Vicks, Diflucan 200 mg, MMS foot baths, electric contacts in 2 separate tubs (DR Lyoyd), one contact from my GB4000 zapper in the tub mixture, and my low level infrared laser. Still have the fungus. Duncan Crow said to use CS + DMSO for 3 months. I found the fungus actually was up the sides of my ankles. After the tub soak I dry my feet with a hair dryer and wear part wool stockings. I bought new shoes and got rid of my old shoes. After one month using the baking soda mixture I see white moons showing at the bottoms of my toe nails. Brickey Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. Quick access to your favorite MSN content and Windows Live with Internet Explorer 8. Download FREE now!
Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus
Hi Bob. It wasn't me -- it was Mary Borgert. And it was used as a foot-bath. MA From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 9:16:36 PM Subject: Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus MaryAnn, How was the ACV used? Topically or ingested orally? Bob - Original Message - From: mborg...@att.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 6:47 PM Subject: Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus A few years ago my husband had a very bad case of toe nail fungus, apple cider vinegar was the answer. I bought the gallon apple cider vinegar without the mother. It took a few days but it never came back. -- Original message from MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net: -- Write to the list please -- I need this information too. MA From: Elizabeth Williams belzi...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 3:41:26 PM Subject: RE: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus Can you write me specifically your method that has worked, I know someone who has bad toenail fungus? Elizabeth Williams belzi...@hotmail.com From: brick...@aol.com Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:23:54 -0400 Subject: Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus To: silver-list@eskimo.com I am doing 1 hour foot baths with baking soda to kill toe nail fungus. I understand from Doug Kaufman that it is the same fungus that is in cancer. If baking soda kills the fungus inside the body it should also kill the toe nail fungus. I also use a gallon of CS + some DMSO. I tried 2 bottles of Vicks, Diflucan 200 mg, MMS foot baths, electric contacts in 2 separate tubs (DR Lyoyd), one contact from my GB4000 zapper in the tub mixture, and my low level infrared laser. Still have the fungus. Duncan Crow said to use CS + DMSO for 3 months. I found the fungus actually was up the sides of my ankles. After the tub soak I dry my feet with a hair dryer and wear part wool stockings. I bought new shoes and got rid of my old shoes. After one month using the baking soda mixture I see white moons showing at the bottoms of my toe nails. Brickey Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. Quick access to your favorite MSN content and Windows Live with Internet Explorer 8. Download FREE now!
Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus
MaryAnn, Thanks! Bob - Original Message - From: MaryAnn Helland To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 7:19 PM Subject: Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus Hi Bob. It wasn't me -- it was Mary Borgert. And it was used as a foot-bath. MA -- From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 9:16:36 PM Subject: Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus MaryAnn, How was the ACV used? Topically or ingested orally? Bob - Original Message - From: mborg...@att.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 6:47 PM Subject: Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus A few years ago my husband had a very bad case of toe nail fungus, apple cider vinegar was the answer. I bought the gallon apple cider vinegar without the mother. It took a few days but it never came back. -- Original message from MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net: -- Write to the list please -- I need this information too. MA -- From: Elizabeth Williams belzi...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 3:41:26 PM Subject: RE: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus Can you write me specifically your method that has worked, I know someone who has bad toenail fungus? Elizabeth Williams belzi...@hotmail.com -- From: brick...@aol.com Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:23:54 -0400 Subject: Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus To: silver-list@eskimo.com I am doing 1 hour foot baths with baking soda to kill toe nail fungus. I understand from Doug Kaufman that it is the same fungus that is in cancer. If baking soda kills the fungus inside the body it should also kill the toe nail fungus. I also use a gallon of CS + some DMSO. I tried 2 bottles of Vicks, Diflucan 200 mg, MMS foot baths, electric contacts in 2 separate tubs (DR Lyoyd), one contact from my GB4000 zapper in the tub mixture, and my low level infrared laser. Still have the fungus. Duncan Crow said to use CS + DMSO for 3 months. I found the fungus actually was up the sides of my ankles. After the tub soak I dry my feet with a hair dryer and wear part wool stockings. I bought new shoes and got rid of my old shoes. After one month using the baking soda mixture I see white moons showing at the bottoms of my toe nails. Brickey -- Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. -- Quick access to your favorite MSN content and Windows Live with Internet Explorer 8. Download FREE now!
Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus
If you wish to know more go to www.earthclinic.com -- Original message from MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net: -- Hi Mary. OK -- I can do this. And you're saying that this actually did something about his toenail fungus? I can hardly believe it could be so easy. MA From: "mborg...@att.net" mborg...@att.netTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSent: Friday, April 10, 2009 9:13:23 PMSubject: Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus Hi Braggs acv has the mother in it, but some suggested that the mother is actually a yeast/fungus. This is too expensive, walmart has a gallon acv much cheeper and it works. I bought a plastic shoe box a walmart it will hold both feet, simply put feet in and cover up tothe toes with acv, keep in for a hour at a time, you can use whenever you wish some say you can reuse the acv, which we did. Mary -- Original message from MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net: -- Hi Mary -- what do you mean "without the mother"? And what exactly did he do with the ACV? Thanks. MA From: "mborg...@att.net" mborg...@att.netTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSent: Friday, April 10, 2009 8:47:58 PMSubject: Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus A few years ago my husband had a very bad case of toe nail fungus, apple cider vinegar was the answer. I bought the gallon apple cider vinegar without the mother. It took a few days but it never came back. -- Original message from MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net: -- Write to the list please -- I need this information too. MA From: Elizabeth Williams belzi...@hotmail.comTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSent: Friday, April 10, 2009 3:41:26 PMSubject: RE: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungus Can you write me specifically your method that has worked, I know someone who has bad toenail fungus?Elizabeth Williamsbelzi...@hotmail.com From: brick...@aol.comDate: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:23:54 -0400Subject: Re: CSBaking soda, cancer, and fungusTo: silver-list@eskimo.com I am doing 1 hour foot baths with baking soda to kill toe nail fungus. I understand from Doug Kaufman that it is the same fungus that is in cancer. If baking soda kills the fungus inside the body it should also kill the toe nail fungus. I also use a gallon of CS + some DMSO. I tried 2 bottles of Vicks, Diflucan 200 mg, MMS foot baths, electric contacts in 2 separate tubs (DR Lyoyd), one contact from my GB4000 zapper in the tub mixture, and my low level infrared laser.Still have the fungus. Duncan Crow said to use CS + DMSO for 3 months. I found the fungus actually was up the sides of my ankles. After the tub soak I dry my feet with a hair dryer and wear part wool stockings. I bought new shoes and got rid of my old shoes. After one month using the baking soda mixture I see white moons showing at the bottoms of my toe nails. Brickey Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. Quick access to your favorite MSN content and Windows Live with Internet Explorer 8. Download FREE now!
Re: CSbaking soda/aluminum?
No, it is sodium hydrogen carbonate, AKA sodium bicarbonate. That would have sodium, hydrogen, carbon and oxygen in it. Marshall jessie70 wrote: Does regular baking soda have aluminum in it? Thanks, Jess -Original Message- *From:* Deborah Gerard [mailto:devorah...@yahoo.com] *Sent:* Sunday, June 17, 2007 9:53 PM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: CSRe: Folic acid I use a little baking soda, without aluminum in it, in a little water and get instant relief...beware though you burp really loud...haha */Dee d...@deetroy.org/* wrote: Is not something like bicarbonate better for 'heartburn' (indigestion) than prescription meds. My husband took these things for years and completely messed his digestive system up. He now gets no pain at all since he's stopped taking them. Dee     --  why, but it might not be a good idea to hang around and find out. -- (Terry Pratchett, Wyrd Sisters) ---Original Message--- From: brick...@aol.com Date: 06/17/07 20:25:09 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: Folic acid I am also trying to stop taking Prilosec. I take 15 drops of 5% Hcl with each meal. Dr Mercola says to take Tagamet 2 per day for 2 months as heartburn returns as soon as I stopped Prilosec. Does the Hcl and Tagamet counteract? I am at the 3 weeks of no Prilosec and currently am taking both. Brickey -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48246/*http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/;_ylc=X3oDMTE5cDF2bXZzBF9TAzk3MTA3MDc2BHNlYwNtYWlsdGFncwRzbGsDZ3JlZW4tY2VudGVy
Re: CSbaking soda/aluminum?
oops I miss spoke or typed it's baking powder that has it in it...now I know baking soda that is bought from the health food store it better but I haven't got that info in front of me...deb Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: No, it is sodium hydrogen carbonate, AKA sodium bicarbonate. That would have sodium, hydrogen, carbon and oxygen in it. Marshall jessie70 wrote: Does regular baking soda have aluminum in it? Thanks, Jess -Original Message- *From:* Deborah Gerard [mailto:devorah...@yahoo.com] *Sent:* Sunday, June 17, 2007 9:53 PM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: CSRe: Folic acid I use a little baking soda, without aluminum in it, in a little water and get instant relief...beware though you burp really loud...haha */Dee /* wrote: Is not something like bicarbonate better for 'heartburn' (indigestion) than prescription meds. My husband took these things for years and completely messed his digestive system up. He now gets no pain at all since he's stopped taking them. Dee     --  why, but it might not be a good idea to hang around and find out. -- (Terry Pratchett, Wyrd Sisters) ---Original Message--- From: brick...@aol.com Date: 06/17/07 20:25:09 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: Folic acid I am also trying to stop taking Prilosec. I take 15 drops of 5% Hcl with each meal. Dr Mercola says to take Tagamet 2 per day for 2 months as heartburn returns as soon as I stopped Prilosec. Does the Hcl and Tagamet counteract? I am at the 3 weeks of no Prilosec and currently am taking both. Brickey -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. - Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center.
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Does regular baking soda have aluminum in it? Thanks, Jess -Original Message- From: Deborah Gerard [mailto:devorah...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 9:53 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: Folic acid I use a little baking soda, without aluminum in it, in a little water and get instant relief...beware though you burp really loud...haha Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: Is not something like bicarbonate better for 'heartburn' (indigestion) than prescription meds. My husband took these things for years and completely messed his digestive system up. He now gets no pain at all since he's stopped taking them. Dee     --  why, but it might not be a good idea to hang around and find out. -- (Terry Pratchett, Wyrd Sisters) ---Original Message--- From: brick...@aol.com Date: 06/17/07 20:25:09 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: Folic acid I am also trying to stop taking Prilosec. I take 15 drops of 5% Hcl with each meal. Dr Mercola says to take Tagamet 2 per day for 2 months as heartburn returns as soon as I stopped Prilosec. Does the Hcl and Tagamet counteract? I am at the 3 weeks of no Prilosec and currently am taking both. Brickey -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center.
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From what I understand it does I get mine from the Health Food store says right on the can no aluminum...we have to be so careful these days...debbie jessie70 jessi...@optonline.net wrote: Does regular baking soda have aluminum in it? Thanks, Jess -Original Message- From: Deborah Gerard [mailto:devorah...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 9:53 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: Folic acid I use a little baking soda, without aluminum in it, in a little water and get instant relief...beware though you burp really loud...haha Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: Is not something like bicarbonate better for 'heartburn' (indigestion) than prescription meds. My husband took these things for years and completely messed his digestive system up. He now gets no pain at all since he's stopped taking them. Dee     --  why, but it might not be a good idea to hang around and find out. -- (Terry Pratchett, Wyrd Sisters) ---Original Message--- From: brick...@aol.com Date: 06/17/07 20:25:09 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: Folic acid I am also trying to stop taking Prilosec. I take 15 drops of 5% Hcl with each meal. Dr Mercola says to take Tagamet 2 per day for 2 months as heartburn returns as soon as I stopped Prilosec. Does the Hcl and Tagamet counteract? I am at the 3 weeks of no Prilosec and currently am taking both. Brickey -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. - Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by Green Rating at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center.
Re: CSbaking soda/aluminum?
I think you are both confusing baking soda (pure sodium bicarbonate) with baking powder which has sodium bicarbonate as one of its several ingredients. sol Deborah Gerard wrote: From what I understand it does I get mine from the Health Food store says right on the can no aluminum...we have to be so careful these days...debbie */jessie70 jessi...@optonline.net/* wrote: Does regular baking soda have aluminum in it? Thanks, Jess -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I think you are both confusing baking soda (pure sodium bicarbonate) with baking powder which has sodium bicarbonate as one of its several ingredients. sol Deborah Gerard wrote: From what I understand it does I get mine from the Health Food store says right on the can no aluminum...we have to be so careful these days...debbie */jessie70 jessi...@optonline.net/* wrote: Does regular baking soda have aluminum in it? Thanks, Jess -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Re: CSBaking soda From: Ode Coyote Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 05:24:07 I did a little experiment to see if using baking soda did or didn't react with silver ions. 16 oz batch run at 1 millimap on 12 exposed 12 guage electrodes, input at 12 volts [because I was playing with 12 volts that day] Water at was .5 uS adjusted to 12.4 uS using the smallest amount of baking soda I could get onto the tip of a damp toothpick. [WOW!] I ran the batch for a total of 2hrs and 41 minutes to 35.2 uS Subtracting to get the difference = 22.8 uS Hi Ken, Very Interesting! The Faraday calculations predict an increase of 22.826 ppm, almost identical to your uS value. This seems to validate the conversion factor of 1 microsiemen = 1 ppm, and extends the range to 35 ppm. So we now have data from 3 ppm to 35 ppm that shows the same conversion factor. See the following for reference: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m63151.html Electrodes ran cleaner than usual CS was crystal clear. Had a strong flavor. PH at 9.7 [I have no idea if my little PH meter is accurate] Probably not - distilled water is difficult to measure and needs a different kind of probe. Initial conclusion...Hummm, not bad at all! BUT About an hour later the batch had turned very milky looking and the conductivity went up to 48 uS. Hmm - I wonder if this affected the uS readings during the brew? Ordinarily I'd have been pleased with a large number of pure silver particles suspended in there, but I was suspicious. Something wasn't quite right. I started searching out the properties of silver carbonate. Apparently it's used in ceramics glazing and is a grey powder that darkens with light exposure. It is not soluable in water. Then I discovered that adding vineger would make silver acetate which IS soluable in water. I wish we could get the chemical equations to show these reactions! I poured out two equal amounts of the batch into 2 clean glass jiggers, diluted one with distilled water and the other with pure white vinegar. I sat all three containers on a windowsill...not in direct sunlight. Original container developed a gray deposit on the bottom as the milkyness gradually reduced to almost clear. The very strong TE dimimished considerably. Jiggerful diluted with water did the same. Jigger diluted with vinegar went crystal clear with almost no TE and no deposits. Conclusion: I had made silver carbonate. Again, it would be nice to have balanced eqations to work with. Looking further, I found that [insoluable/ light sensitive] silver carbonate makes silver ions upon exposure to hydrochloric acid. Back to square one if you drink it down. The silver in [soluable/ light insensitive] silver acetate is released as pure metallic particles when in the presence of iron. Hummm [silver plated red blood corpuscles? Use an iron electrode?..might get a very shiny nail.] I ran another batch using one drop of vinegar. Looked pretty good but I got busy on something else and lost it somewhere and didn't take notes. The baking soda batch samples still look the same on the window sill after a week or 2. Ode Very nice, Ken. Here's the Faraday calcs: Cou = I * sec ; total number of Coulombs gm = k * I * sec ; Faraday's equation k= 107.868 / 96485 ; Coulombs required per gram of silver lt = 3.785 * gal ; convert gallons to litres lt = ml / 1000 ; convert millilitres to litres mg = gm * 1000 ; convert grams to milligrams ml = 29.57 * oz ; convert ounce to milliliters phr = ppm / hrs ; ppm per hour ppm = mg / lt ; 1 ppm is 1 milligram per litre sec = hrs * 3600 + mnt * 60 ; convert hours to seconds hrs = 2 I= 1e-3 ; current mnt = 41 ; minutes oz = 16 ; volume of dw Solution: Cou = 9.6600 I= 0.0010 sec = 9660.0 gm = 0.0107 lt = 0.4731 gal = 0.1249 ml = 473.12 mg = 10.799 oz = 16.000 phr = 11.413 ppm = 22.826 hrs = 2. mnt = 41.000 Best Wishes, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Reminds me of the time my car got stuck in drive. It would drive in neutral, and in reverse, it would load the engine, but I would go nowhere. I took it to Amco transmission, and they said it would be $300 or so to fix, no matter what the problem was. So I said I would try to fix it first. I drove by Amco at about 30 miles an hour, and pushed up up into reverse, the back wheels squealed for a second, and it killed the engine. When I restarted the engine everything worked fine and it never failed until I traded a few years later. I figured it would cost me no more if it was totally destroyed so I had nothing to lose, and as it turns out, the big jar was all it needed to get unstuck. Marshall Ode Coyote wrote: I did a little experiment to see if using baking soda did or didn't react with silver ions. 16 oz batch run at 1 millimap on 12 exposed 12 guage electrodes, input at 12 volts [because I was playing with 12 volts that day] Water at was .5 uS adjusted to 12.4 uS using the smallest amount of baking soda I could get onto the tip of a damp toothpick. [WOW!] I ran the batch for a total of 2hrs and 41 minutes to 35.2 uS Subtracting to get the difference= 22.8 uS Electrodes ran cleaner than usual CS was crystal clear. Had a strong flavor. PH at 9.7 [I have no idea if my little PH meter is accurate] Initial conclusion...Hummm, not bad at all! BUT About an hour later the batch had turned very milky looking and the conductivity went up to 48 uS. rdinarily I'd have been pleased with a large number of pure silver particles suspended in there, but I was suspicious. Something wasn't quite right. I started searching out the properties of silver carbonate. Apparently it's used in ceramics glazing and is a grey powder that darkens with light exposure. It is not soluable in water. Then I discovered that adding vineger would make silver acetate which IS soluable in water. I poured out two equal amounts of the batch into 2 clean glass jiggers, diluted one with distilled water and the other with pure white vinegar. I sat all three containers on a windowsill...not in direct sunlight. Original container developed a gray deposit on the bottom as the milkyness gradually reduced to almost clear. The very strong TE dimimished considerably. Jiggerful diluted with water did the same. Jigger diluted with vinegar went crystal clear with almost no TE and no deposits. Conclusion: I had made silver carbonate. Looking further, I found that [insoluable/ light sensitive] silver carbonate makes silver ions upon exposure to hydrochloric acid. Back to square one if you drink it down. The silver in [soluable/ light insensitive] silver acetate is released as pure metallic particles when in the presence of iron. Hummm [silver plated red blood corpuscles? Use an iron electrode?..might get a very shiny nail.] I ran another batch using one drop of vinegar. Looked pretty good but I got busy on something else and lost it somewhere and didn't take notes. The baking soda batch samples still look the same on the window sill after a week or 2. Ode At 08:10 AM 7/9/2004 -0700, you wrote: Hello everyone! I am new to this list and I have a question. I have been searching for a CS system and was looking at CS Pro. http://www.csprosystems.com/UniPhaseMaxPg.html . They mention that they use Baking soda to control PH and conductivity of the water. I know salts are bad to add from the research I have done on the net, but will baking soda hurt anything? Any other suggestions for a high capacity unit? Thanks in advance! David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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wayne fugitt must love this story... On Jul 12, 2004, at 10:39 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote: Reminds me of the time my car got stuck in drive. It would drive in neutral, and in reverse, it would load the engine, but I would go nowhere. I took it to Amco transmission, and they said it would be $300 or so to fix, no matter what the problem was. So I said I would try to fix it first. I drove by Amco at about 30 miles an hour, and pushed up up into reverse, the back wheels squealed for a second, and it killed the engine. When I restarted the engine everything worked fine and it never failed until I traded a few years later. I figured it would cost me no more if it was totally destroyed so I had nothing to lose, and as it turns out, the big jar was all it needed to get unstuck. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSBaking soda
I did a little experiment to see if using baking soda did or didn't react with silver ions. 16 oz batch run at 1 millimap on 12 exposed 12 guage electrodes, input at 12 volts [because I was playing with 12 volts that day] Water at was .5 uS adjusted to 12.4 uS using the smallest amount of baking soda I could get onto the tip of a damp toothpick. [WOW!] I ran the batch for a total of 2hrs and 41 minutes to 35.2 uS Subtracting to get the difference= 22.8 uS Electrodes ran cleaner than usual CS was crystal clear. Had a strong flavor. PH at 9.7 [I have no idea if my little PH meter is accurate] Initial conclusion...Hummm, not bad at all! BUT About an hour later the batch had turned very milky looking and the conductivity went up to 48 uS. rdinarily I'd have been pleased with a large number of pure silver particles suspended in there, but I was suspicious. Something wasn't quite right. I started searching out the properties of silver carbonate. Apparently it's used in ceramics glazing and is a grey powder that darkens with light exposure. It is not soluable in water. Then I discovered that adding vineger would make silver acetate which IS soluable in water. I poured out two equal amounts of the batch into 2 clean glass jiggers, diluted one with distilled water and the other with pure white vinegar. I sat all three containers on a windowsill...not in direct sunlight. Original container developed a gray deposit on the bottom as the milkyness gradually reduced to almost clear. The very strong TE dimimished considerably. Jiggerful diluted with water did the same. Jigger diluted with vinegar went crystal clear with almost no TE and no deposits. Conclusion: I had made silver carbonate. Looking further, I found that [insoluable/ light sensitive] silver carbonate makes silver ions upon exposure to hydrochloric acid. Back to square one if you drink it down. The silver in [soluable/ light insensitive] silver acetate is released as pure metallic particles when in the presence of iron. Hummm [silver plated red blood corpuscles? Use an iron electrode?..might get a very shiny nail.] I ran another batch using one drop of vinegar. Looked pretty good but I got busy on something else and lost it somewhere and didn't take notes. The baking soda batch samples still look the same on the window sill after a week or 2. Ode At 08:10 AM 7/9/2004 -0700, you wrote: Hello everyone! I am new to this list and I have a question. I have been searching for a CS system and was looking at CS Pro. http://www.csprosystems.com/UniPhaseMaxPg.html . They mention that they use Baking soda to control PH and conductivity of the water. I know salts are bad to add from the research I have done on the net, but will baking soda hurt anything? Any other suggestions for a high capacity unit? Thanks in advance! David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSBaking soda
Hello everyone! I am new to this list and I have a question. I have been searching for a CS system and was looking at CS Pro. http://www.csprosystems.com/UniPhaseMaxPg.html . They mention that they use Baking soda to control PH and conductivity of the water. I know salts are bad to add from the research I have done on the net, but will baking soda hurt anything? Any other suggestions for a high capacity unit? Thanks in advance! David -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi pj; Try unpasteurized Apple Cider Vinegar. as it will alkalinize the body. You can even get it in tablets but you will miss out in the beneficial bacteria. Often fed with salad as part of a salad dressing. Louise Larabie llara...@raw-connections.com BARFing Amber and Ginger Raw Connections www.raw-connections.com i...@raw-connections.com Frozen, raw prepared meals for dogs and cats, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Area RawGlow www.raw-connections.com/rawglow raw fed Miniature Australian Shepherd NAMAS *For a great grooming tool check http://www.raw-connections.com/grooming.html -Original Message- From: Shirley Reed [mailto:pj20...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 12:03 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSbaking soda So baking soda won't work for alkalizing. Know anything that does work? pj __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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pj, Dr Schallenberger's Alkalising Formula 1 Part sodium citrate 2 parts Potassium bicarbonate 7 parts Sodium bicarbonate Take in water 1 teaspoon twice per day Works for me. Tony Shirley Reed wrote: So baking soda won't work for alkalizing. Know anything that does work? pj -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSbaking soda
So baking soda won't work for alkalizing. Know anything that does work? pj __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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- Original Message - From: Shirley Reed pj20...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 12:02 PM Subject: CSbaking soda So baking soda won't work for alkalizing. Know anything that does work? pj If this is for inside the body, try either alkaline water, lemon juice in filtered water, and/or barley grass or some other powdered green drink. Liquid chlorophyll will do nicely, too. Nina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi PJ ~ Apple cider vinegar turns to alkaline in the body. What are you wanting to alkalize for? Julie Critters So baking soda won't work for alkalizing. Know anything that does work? pj -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Try this experiment: put a little bit of vinegar in a container which can be fitted with a stopper, like a cork. I would use a little film canister, you know the black ones that have a pop on top. Then place a small amt of baking soda in the container and then quickly put the top on it. Vinegar is a very weak acid. HCl is a very strong one. Baking soda is a base, I do not know where on the scale it is, but it does react with vinegar, as you will see. There are lots of opinions on the use of baking soda. I for one think it is unhealthy. But it depends on the person, on how unhealthy it would be. I am very low in HCl, as are a lot of people over 20 years old. We lose it as we age. I think baking soda makes us lose it faster. Kris -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSbaking soda
At 03:24 PM 10/23/1999 -0600, you wrote: Try this experiment: put a little bit of vinegar in a container which can be fitted with a stopper, like a cork. I would use a little film canister, you know the black ones that have a pop on top. Then place a small amt of baking soda in the container and then quickly put the top on it. Vinegar is a very weak acid. HCl is a very strong one. Baking soda is a base, I do not know where on the scale it is, but it does react with vinegar, as you will see. Thanks for sharing.. There was a hole in my memories of fourth grade science. I do however, remember, that the point of any experiment , was a scientific method. Did you also know, that if you stick your fingers in your ears - it becomes really hard to hear? Just another miracle of science... Base/acid - fingers/ears.. same thing You can prove this by putting your fingers in another person's ears. Eventually, (and hopefully) this list will recognize the the maximum effacy of suspended silver solutions is in the charge of the solution. I don't read all the tripe, but I have yet to see any reference to an electroscope. Like it or not folks, finely divided silver IS sensitive to light. Internally, ANY silver is better than NO silver. CS as you refer to it, is not a colloid at all. Any silver particle in a suspension of pure H2o is heavier than the suspending medium. In lay terms, a true colloid would be a jar full of pink fish eggs. If one were to pick a few eggs, inject them with a blue color and a grain of sand to make them heavier than the rest, and put them back, - that would be a true colloid. They would stay in apparent suspension. even though they were heavier ( because of the sand), because the slight increase in weight is not enough to displace pink fish eggs around them. If the container were vibrated, they would eventually reach the bottom. Gravity rules. Very fine suspensions of silver will all eventually settle out. The silver particles bump into water molecules, like bumpers on a pinball machine. The smaller the particles, the longer it takes. It will happen eventually. If the silver particles have like charges however, they will continually repel each other, or swim. As long as they remain charged, they are viable swimmers. The nature of things is that all charged things seek equilibrium. Equilibrium can be reached by giving up a charge, to reach stability. If a photon (light), strikes a particle, that impact is sufficient to change (or in this case nullify) a positive charge on a silver particle. At that point, it becomes just a hunk of silver. Everyone in this group should be familiar with the mechanics of oxidation. In many ways, what I have seen in this group is exactly akin to worming your dog. You eat enough to kill ( or slow down ) the offender, but not enough to kill the host. Which, is fine. Your immune system needs all the help it can get. You would all do well to test the charge of your solutions. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Re: CSbaking soda
At 03:24 PM 10/23/1999 -0600, you wrote: Try this experiment: put a little bit of vinegar in a container which can be fitted with a stopper, like a cork. I would use a little film canister, you know the black ones that have a pop on top. Then place a small amt of baking soda in the container and then quickly put the top on it. Vinegar is a very weak acid. HCl is a very strong one. Baking soda is a base, I do not know where on the scale it is, but it does react with vinegar, as you will see. Thanks for sharing.. There was a hole in my memories of fourth grade science. I do however, remember, that the point of any experiment , was a scientific method. Did you also know, that if you stick your fingers in your ears - it becomes really hard to hear? Just another miracle of science... Base/acid - fingers/ears.. same thing You can prove this by putting your fingers in another person's ears. Eventually, (and hopefully) this list will recognize the the maximum effacy of suspended silver solutions is in the charge of the solution. I don't read all the tripe, but I have yet to see any reference to an electroscope. Like it or not folks, finely divided silver IS sensitive to light. Internally, ANY silver is better than NO silver. CS as you refer to it, is not a colloid at all. Any silver particle in a suspension of pure H2o is heavier than the suspending medium. In lay terms, a true colloid would be a jar full of pink fish eggs. If one were to pick a few eggs, inject them with a blue color and a grain of sand to make them heavier than the rest, and put them back, - that would be a true colloid. They would stay in apparent suspension. even though they were heavier ( because of the sand), because the slight increase in weight is not enough to displace pink fish eggs around them. If the container were vibrated, they would eventually reach the bottom. Gravity rules. Very fine suspensions of silver will all eventually settle out. The silver particles bump into water molecules, like bumpers on a pinball machine. The smaller the particles, the longer it takes. It will happen eventually. If the silver particles have like charges however, they will continually repel each other, or swim. As long as they remain charged, they are viable swimmers. The nature of things is that all charged things seek equilibrium. Equilibrium can be reached by giving up a charge, to reach stability. If a photon (light), strikes a particle, that impact is sufficient to change (or in this case nullify) a positive charge on a silver particle. At that point, it becomes just a hunk of silver. Everyone in this group should be familiar with the mechanics of oxidation. In many ways, what I have seen in this group is exactly akin to worming your dog. You eat enough to kill ( or slow down ) the offender, but not enough to kill the host. Which, is fine. Your immune system needs all the help it can get. You would all do well to test the charge of your solutions. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
