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CSH202 gardening
http://www.landrights.com/Hydrogen_Peroxide.htm Dear Bill Munro, I read your article about gardening with H202 and decided to include this in this years fall garden (Florida). I mixed up the peroxide as you stated and sprayed the rows where I intended to plant and then put my seeds down and sprayed them again before covering the seeds. I was using a hand held 1 gallon sprayer and found it interesting that the soil would boil up some using the 8% mixture. Our garden plot is 80ft X 35ft and feeds three families. We planted two weeks ago and some seeds have yet to show. We have had the pourest germination we have ever had. None of our green beans have germinated---not one, same for several other vegetables. I tried digging in the garden to find the seeds to see where they were in their germination process to my surprise I couldn't find a single bean seed. It was like I hadn't planted. The onion bulbs we put in have yet to put out tops. I can see where spraying the plants after they have come up would be beneficial but do not recommend from this experience spraying the seeds. I don't think it would be the seeds as I bought from three different suppliers with the same results. The corn only had about a 10% germination. This really put a dent in our fall production and replanting will be iffy with the winter right around the corner. Dianne France
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I don't go back 100 years ago but 60 years ago tomatoes were favourite food. Shop bought or home grown, us kids would eat them like fruit. 35 years ago my kids were the same, eating tomatoes out of the frig as a snack. I now hate having to make my way past the skin like a condom and trying chew and swallow the pale, woody, tasteless flesh because it has lycopenes and is good for me. There is not much tomato left now. Its a sort of plastic facsimile. This past season I have grown them in a little patch and its a race every morning between me and whatever is out there that eats them. These have taste and they are satisfying. Next year they will be composted, watered and fed a compost tea. I like the idea of the H2o2 too. OK, Tony On 19 Apr 2010 at 20:28, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote about : Subject : Re: CSH202 - again I don't think I'd eat a 100 year old tomato... On the other hand,Chinese 100 year old eggs are supposed to be a delicacy... Chuck If you pull the wings off a fly, does it become a walk? snip -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH202 - again - tomatos
For a good time ... if you know someone who has just planted tomatoes, and the plants are growing nicely, but have no fruit yet, or just the little green beginnings of fruit, go to the store and buy a nice fat beefsteak tomato with some stem on it, and superglue it to the end of a stem on the tomato plant. Be there when the plant's owner discovers it... Great fun - Original Message From: Tony Moody a...@new.co.za To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, April 20, 2010 7:33:00 AM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again I don't go back 100 years ago but 60 years ago tomatoes were favourite food. Shop bought or home grown, us kids would eat them like fruit. 35 years ago my kids were the same, eating tomatoes out of the frig as a snack. I now hate having to make my way past the skin like a condom and trying chew and swallow the pale, woody, tasteless flesh because it has lycopenes and is good for me. There is not much tomato left now. Its a sort of plastic facsimile. This past season I have grown them in a little patch and its a race every morning between me and whatever is out there that eats them. These have taste and they are satisfying. Next year they will be composted, watered and fed a compost tea. I like the idea of the H2o2 too. OK, Tony On 19 Apr 2010 at 20:28, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote about : Subject : Re: CSH202 - again I don't think I'd eat a 100 year old tomato... On the other hand,Chinese 100 year old eggs are supposed to be a delicacy... Chuck If you pull the wings off a fly, does it become a walk? snip -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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lol Donna ACS For a good time ... if you know someone who has just planted tomatoes, and the plants are growing nicely, but have no fruit yet, or just the little green beginnings of fruit, go to the store and buy a nice fat beefsteak tomato with some stem on it, and superglue it to the end of a stem on the tomato plant. Be there when the plant's owner discovers it... Great fun - Original Message From: Tony Moodya...@new.co.za To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tue, April 20, 2010 7:33:00 AM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again I don't go back 100 years ago but 60 years ago tomatoes were favourite food. Shop bought or home grown, us kids would eat them like fruit. 35 years ago my kids were the same, eating tomatoes out of the frig as a snack. I now hate having to make my way past the skin like a condom and trying chew and swallow the pale, woody, tasteless flesh because it has lycopenes and is good for me. There is not much tomato left now. Its a sort of plastic facsimile. This past season I have grown them in a little patch and its a race every morning between me and whatever is out there that eats them. These have taste and they are satisfying. Next year they will be composted, watered and fed a compost tea. I like the idea of the H2o2 too. OK, Tony On 19 Apr 2010 at 20:28, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote about : Subject : Re: CSH202 - again I don't think I'd eat a 100 year old tomato... On the other hand,Chinese 100 year old eggs are supposed to be a delicacy... Chuck If you pull the wings off a fly, does it become a walk? snip -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions:mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devourmailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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The question is. Is any tomato more nutritious than no tomato? 100 years ago, you couldn't buy ANY tomato unless it was in season locally...then, was it grown in a burned out field or a carefully tended garden, in either case, sprayed or not sprayed with Arsenic? Plus Organic of yesteryear by default is not the same as a organic of today by design. Ode At 11:47 AM 4/19/2010 -0500, you wrote: I guess to backup a step, what exactly does this stmt mean? Is a store-bought, non-organic tomato more nutritious than a store-bought tomato from 100 years ago? I could hardly believe that. Alan On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Alan Jones mailto:alanmjo...@gmail.comalanmjo...@gmail.com wrote: Ode, can you support this statement? On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 5:43 AM, Ode Coyote mailto:odecoy...@windstream.netodecoy...@windstream.net wrote: Nutrition today is vastly better than it was 100 years ago. -- Alan Jones -- Alan Jones -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Go to home depot or lowes and buy some tomato cages. They will protect the tomatoes against almost everything, even deer and rabbits. However if the problem only occurs during daylight, it might be birds, in which case throwing some cheesecloth over it will keep them out. Marshall Tony Moody wrote: I don't go back 100 years ago but 60 years ago tomatoes were favourite food. Shop bought or home grown, us kids would eat them like fruit. 35 years ago my kids were the same, eating tomatoes out of the frig as a snack. I now hate having to make my way past the skin like a condom and trying chew and swallow the pale, woody, tasteless flesh because it has lycopenes and is good for me. There is not much tomato left now. Its a sort of plastic facsimile. This past season I have grown them in a little patch and its a race every morning between me and whatever is out there that eats them. These have taste and they are satisfying. Next year they will be composted, watered and fed a compost tea. I like the idea of the H2o2 too. OK, Tony On 19 Apr 2010 at 20:28, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote about : Subject : Re: CSH202 - again I don't think I'd eat a 100 year old tomato... On the other hand,Chinese 100 year old eggs are supposed to be a delicacy... Chuck If you pull the wings off a fly, does it become a walk? snip -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH202 - again - tomatos
you have a cheeky side Dick! dee On 20 Apr 2010, at 13:49, Richard Goodwin wrote: For a good time ... if you know someone who has just planted tomatoes, and the plants are growing nicely, but have no fruit yet, or just the little green beginnings of fruit, go to the store and buy a nice fat beefsteak tomato with some stem on it, and superglue it to the end of a stem on the tomato plant. Be there when the plant's owner discovers it... Great fun -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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thanks Marshall, Its a Looong way to Lowes or Home Dept from here. I'l do a search and maybe make my own. OK, I had a look, good ideas but would stop our beasties. The tomatoes should get some sort of green house here to keep them going and will use the CS and H2O2 spray for fungus which is bound to get going. There a whole forest of hungry creatures out there, samango monkeys, baboons, nothing much will stop those guys if they take a liking to what you have. They go over any fence and break anything if they want it. A very specific electric fence will do it. Birds that take most are francolins, sort of like partridges. Nothing seems to touch the tomatoes which I bought as seedlings. But the strawberries were very popular and so are the beans. OK, Tony On 20 Apr 2010 at 10:17, Marshall Dudley wrote about : Subject : Re: CSH202 - again Go to home depot or lowes and buy some tomato cages. They will protect the tomatoes against almost everything, even deer and rabbits. However if the problem only occurs during daylight, it might be birds, in which case throwing some cheesecloth over it will keep them out. Marshall Tony Moody wrote: I don't go back 100 years ago but 60 years ago tomatoes were favourite food. Shop bought or home grown, us kids would eat them like fruit. 35 years ago my kids were the same, eating tomatoes out of the frig as a snack. I now hate having to make my way past the skin like a condom and trying chew and swallow the pale, woody, tasteless flesh because it has lycopenes and is good for me. There is not much tomato left now. Its a sort of plastic facsimile. This past season I have grown them in a little patch and its a race every morning between me and whatever is out there that eats them. These have taste and they are satisfying. Next year they will be composted, watered and fed a compost tea. I like the idea of the H2o2 too. OK, Tony On 19 Apr 2010 at 20:28, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote about : Subject : Re: CSH202 - again I don't think I'd eat a 100 year old tomato... On the other hand,Chinese 100 year old eggs are supposed to be a delicacy... Chuck If you pull the wings off a fly, does it become a walk? snip -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Or after the rain has cleaned the air up...rinsing the bottle, so to speak. Ode At 05:27 PM 4/18/2010 -0800, you wrote: Hello Ode, Correction... Distilled water is like rain water before it falls through all the dust and other crap in the air. Tom - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 11:36 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again Distilled is like...rain water. I'd think that most of your minerals come from food anyhow...but sure, take minerals in either case if you think you need them. ode At 02:12 PM 4/17/2010 -0500, you wrote: I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine. - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:22 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again Dee, I would personally use distilled, but then I use distilled for nearly everything, to avoid the contaminants in the tap water. But the way to decide would be to consider what you plan to use that H202 for, and whether tap water minerals and contaminants are going to be undesireable for those uses. sol Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Can anyone (Tony?) tell me if I should use tap water or distilled water when making my 3% H202. If it is alright to use tap I would rather do this, but if it is *really* necessary to use DW then I will do that. I noticed on the H202 site it just mentions water. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Unlike in the old days of total ignorance where farmers burned out soil so bad it wouldn't even grow weeds and they had to move West, Modern farmers pay a great deal of attention to supplementing soils with minerals that were never even present in that soil. There is no evidence that modern foods have fewer minerals in them than old foods, if anything, the *variety* of minerals would have increased as no two natural soil samples are the same even taken a hundred feet apart. Nutrition today is vastly better than it was 100 years ago. And given that the old pesticides used were mercury and arsenic based, even the nasty nerve gas based pesticides, as a bad as they are, are better. Mineral soils that leach are MADE of minerals and plants use enzymes and produce acids to extract them. On the other hand, it takes water to be the solvent and that water has to stay around for a while to build up mineral concentration extracted from the finely ground up stone, plus various other microorganisms and fungi also extract minerals from the rock particles and lots of organic matter will help keep the water around and support those other contributors. On the other other hand, you can't extract what isn't there, so supplementation is a good idea in either case. Nothing against organic farming, it's just that the old days of ignorance [not counting the very few enlightened exceptions] wasn't anything like todays organic farming and wasn't even as good as modern Agribiz which no longer has to rely on slash and burn, then move, to get something to grow. Recall that the Dust Bowl was 80 years ago? Those farmers came FROM the East BECAUSE the East was burned up and nothing left to slash. ..haven't made one since. And Eastern forest land has increased by around 90%. It probably took 40 years just for a short needle scrub pine to grow on all those old terraced fields around here...and now, you have to weed out oaks to even grow a pine. Farming methods can use some improvement, but that doesn't mean that modern Agribiz wasn't an improvement over yesteryear...which was far worse... and very few people lived past 60 only 80 years ago, in large part due to dismal nutrition. People are also taller now. Ode At 06:51 AM 4/18/2010 -0700, you wrote: Dorothy, 70 - 100 years ago we did get our minerals from food. The problem is farmland has been overfarmed and farmed incorrectly which leached and destroyed much of the mineral content of the topsoil. As a result our food is devoid of many trace minerals. If you have a garden or farm, a supplement like Azomite would be great to add to the soil as fertilizer. Your veggies would be brimming with minerals formed 40 million years ago when these substances were in abundance. Since factory farms don't use organic methods you will get only a few select minerals that might help grow the plants but do little for your varied needs. Bob - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 5:55 AM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again Concentrace ionic minerals are supposed to be good, but I personally think you would get most minerals from food. After all, we would naturally drink rainwater if we didn't live near a stream--or we didn't have a water recycling system. dee On 18 Apr 2010, at 00:42, Leslie wrote: OK. What should I do to add some minerals. You mentioned some filter and adding Clay? Would appreciate some suggestions and simple directions for me and reasonable px. Thanks. - Original Message - From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 5:37 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Where have you BEEN? Google mentos and soda Mentos rockets etc Ode At 05:28 PM 4/18/2010 -0800, you wrote: Hello Ode, Mentos and soda pop...? Is there a story that goes with that? Tom -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Ode does a COM-100 for $55. I have a TDS meter from him which I have had for two years, and have never changed any batteries. dee On 19 Apr 2010, at 02:05, poast wrote: Hello Leslie, It is the PWT by Hanna. There are several sources for it, but I got mine from Trem at SilverGen. I think he is selling for around $77 with the calibration solution. Tom - Original Message - From: leslie leslie1...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 8:51 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again How much does that meter cost? My batteries are out of that TDS (?) meter and it takes 4 or 6 which is 6.75 at Utopia. I am not sure that is a really good meter either, so thinking to get another kind. thanks, Leslie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Ode, can you support this statement? On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 5:43 AM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.netwrote: Nutrition today is vastly better than it was 100 years ago. -- Alan Jones
Re: CSH202 - again
Ode, Here is a study showing that organically grown foods do indeed contain more nutrients, including trace minerals, than non organic foods. Most studies done have been flawed and carried out by huge agribusiness concerns. http://www.grinningplanet.com/2005/12-27/health-benefits-of-organic-food-article.htm I know personally that when I grow my own veggies they taste better and look better than non organic varieties from the grocery. Although this is subjective my taste buds and my eyes don't lie. - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 3:43 AM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again Unlike in the old days of total ignorance where farmers burned out soil so bad it wouldn't even grow weeds and they had to move West, Modern farmers pay a great deal of attention to supplementing soils with minerals that were never even present in that soil. There is no evidence that modern foods have fewer minerals in them than old foods, if anything, the *variety* of minerals would have increased as no two natural soil samples are the same even taken a hundred feet apart. Nutrition today is vastly better than it was 100 years ago. And given that the old pesticides used were mercury and arsenic based, even the nasty nerve gas based pesticides, as a bad as they are, are better. Mineral soils that leach are MADE of minerals and plants use enzymes and produce acids to extract them. On the other hand, it takes water to be the solvent and that water has to stay around for a while to build up mineral concentration extracted from the finely ground up stone, plus various other microorganisms and fungi also extract minerals from the rock particles and lots of organic matter will help keep the water around and support those other contributors. On the other other hand, you can't extract what isn't there, so supplementation is a good idea in either case. Nothing against organic farming, it's just that the old days of ignorance [not counting the very few enlightened exceptions] wasn't anything like todays organic farming and wasn't even as good as modern Agribiz which no longer has to rely on slash and burn, then move, to get something to grow. Recall that the Dust Bowl was 80 years ago? Those farmers came FROM the East BECAUSE the East was burned up and nothing left to slash. ..haven't made one since. And Eastern forest land has increased by around 90%. It probably took 40 years just for a short needle scrub pine to grow on all those old terraced fields around here...and now, you have to weed out oaks to even grow a pine. Farming methods can use some improvement, but that doesn't mean that modern Agribiz wasn't an improvement over yesteryear...which was far worse... and very few people lived past 60 only 80 years ago, in large part due to dismal nutrition. People are also taller now. Ode At 06:51 AM 4/18/2010 -0700, you wrote: Dorothy, 70 - 100 years ago we did get our minerals from food. The problem is farmland has been overfarmed and farmed incorrectly which leached and destroyed much of the mineral content of the topsoil. As a result our food is devoid of many trace minerals. If you have a garden or farm, a supplement like Azomite would be great to add to the soil as fertilizer. Your veggies would be brimming with minerals formed 40 million years ago when these substances were in abundance. Since factory farms don't use organic methods you will get only a few select minerals that might help grow the plants but do little for your varied needs. Bob - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 5:55 AM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again Concentrace ionic minerals are supposed to be good, but I personally think you would get most minerals from food. After all, we would naturally drink rainwater if we didn't live near a stream--or we didn't have a water recycling system. dee On 18 Apr 2010, at 00:42, Leslie wrote: OK. What should I do to add some minerals. You mentioned some filter and adding Clay? Would appreciate some suggestions and simple directions for me and reasonable px. Thanks. - Original Message - From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 5:37 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSH202 - again - remineralization
I have seen arguments both for and against the regarding the claim of a lack of minerals in modern crops. I guess I agree with those that feel that there is a serious lack of trace minerals in modern food crops. That is one of the reasons I use bentonite, powdered kelp and blackstrap molasses for trace mineral supplementation. One other product I like is humic acid for growing plants to increase their trace mineral content. You can get humic acid cheap on eBay. Here are some interesting links courtesy of a previous Brooks Bradley's post: The Miracle of Remineralization http://doctorapsley.com/Remineralization.aspx Remineralize the Earth http://www.remineralize.org/site/images/rte_wirec.pdf - Steve N -Original Message- From: Bob Banever [mailto:bbane...@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 7:16 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSH202 - again Ode, Here is a study showing that organically grown foods do indeed contain more nutrients, including trace minerals, than non organic foods. Most studies done have been flawed and carried out by huge agribusiness concerns. http://www.grinningplanet.com/2005/12-27/health-benefits-of-organic-food -article.htm I know personally that when I grow my own veggies they taste better and look better than non organic varieties from the grocery. Although this is subjective my taste buds and my eyes don't lie. - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 3:43 AM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again Unlike in the old days of total ignorance where farmers burned out soil so bad it wouldn't even grow weeds and they had to move West, Modern farmers pay a great deal of attention to supplementing soils with minerals that were never even present in that soil. There is no evidence that modern foods have fewer minerals in them than old foods, if anything, the *variety* of minerals would have increased as no two natural soil samples are the same even taken a hundred feet apart. Nutrition today is vastly better than it was 100 years ago. And given that the old pesticides used were mercury and arsenic based, even the nasty nerve gas based pesticides, as a bad as they are, are better. Mineral soils that leach are MADE of minerals and plants use enzymes and produce acids to extract them. On the other hand, it takes water to be the solvent and that water has to stay around for a while to build up mineral concentration extracted from the finely ground up stone, plus various other microorganisms and fungi also extract minerals from the rock particles and lots of organic matter will help keep the water around and support those other contributors. On the other other hand, you can't extract what isn't there, so supplementation is a good idea in either case. Nothing against organic farming, it's just that the old days of ignorance [not counting the very few enlightened exceptions] wasn't anything like todays organic farming and wasn't even as good as modern Agribiz which no longer has to rely on slash and burn, then move, to get something to grow. Recall that the Dust Bowl was 80 years ago? Those farmers came FROM the East BECAUSE the East was burned up and nothing left to slash. ..haven't made one since. And Eastern forest land has increased by around 90%. It probably took 40 years just for a short needle scrub pine to grow on all those old terraced fields around here...and now, you have to weed out oaks to even grow a pine. Farming methods can use some improvement, but that doesn't mean that modern Agribiz wasn't an improvement over yesteryear...which was far worse... and very few people lived past 60 only 80 years ago, in large part due to dismal nutrition. People are also taller now. Ode At 06:51 AM 4/18/2010 -0700, you wrote: Dorothy, 70 - 100 years ago we did get our minerals from food. The problem is farmland has been overfarmed and farmed incorrectly which leached and destroyed much of the mineral content of the topsoil. As a result our food is devoid of many trace minerals. If you have a garden or farm, a supplement like Azomite would be great to add to the soil as fertilizer. Your veggies would be brimming with minerals formed 40 million years ago when these substances were in abundance. Since factory farms don't use organic methods you will get only a few select minerals that might help grow the plants but do little for your varied needs. Bob - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 5:55 AM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again Concentrace ionic minerals are supposed to be good, but I personally think you would get most minerals from food. After all, we would naturally drink rainwater if we didn't live near a stream--or we didn't have a water recycling system. dee On 18
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I guess to backup a step, what exactly does this stmt mean? Is a store-bought, non-organic tomato more nutritious than a store-bought tomato from 100 years ago? I could hardly believe that. Alan On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote: Ode, can you support this statement? On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 5:43 AM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.netwrote: Nutrition today is vastly better than it was 100 years ago. -- Alan Jones -- Alan Jones
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Alan, Unless you buy an heirloom variety organically grown tomato the usual store bought tomatoes are inedible. Hard and tasteless in comparison. A hundred years ago I would assume most of the tomatoes sold were of the organic variety. Bob - Original Message - From: Alan Jones To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 9:47 AM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again I guess to backup a step, what exactly does this stmt mean? Is a store-bought, non-organic tomato more nutritious than a store-bought tomato from 100 years ago? I could hardly believe that. Alan On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com wrote: Ode, can you support this statement? On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 5:43 AM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net wrote: Nutrition today is vastly better than it was 100 years ago. -- Alan Jones -- Alan Jones
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Hello Ode, Oh my, where have I been... I totally missed out on that. Raised 3 boys and never once had them bring this up. Wow. I am going to have to try it out. Tom - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 3:18 AM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again Where have you BEEN? Google mentos and soda Mentos rockets etc Ode At 05:28 PM 4/18/2010 -0800, you wrote: Hello Ode, Mentos and soda pop...? Is there a story that goes with that? Tom -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I don't think I'd eat a 100 year old tomato... On the other hand,Chinese 100 year old eggs are supposed to be a delicacy... Chuck If you pull the wings off a fly, does it become a walk? On 4/19/2010 12:47:06 PM, Alan Jones (alanmjo...@gmail.com) wrote: I guess to backup a step, what exactly does this stmt mean? Is a store- bought, non-organic tomato more nutritious than a store-bought tomato from 100 years ago? I could hardly believe that. Alan On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Alan Jones alanmjo...@gmail.com [link: mailto:alanmjo...@gmail.com] wrote: Ode, can you support this statement? On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 5:43 AM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net [link: mailto:odecoy...@windstream.net] wrote: Nutrition today is vastly better than it was 100 years ago. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Dee, somewhere in the literature i collected it say's not to mix H2O2 with chlorine so if your tap water has chlorine in it then it's probably not a good idea. there's just one part on one of my sheets that say's to use Distilled water when mixing and that was for spraying seedlings. I drank it for a while and mixed it with distitlled water but for my plants i mix it with my well water. I don't drink my well water either since it was contaminated with choliform bacteria. We buy bottled water for regular drinking. Tina On 17 Apr 2010 at 12:46, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote about : Subject : CSH202 - again Can anyone (Tony?) tell me if I should use tap water or distilled water when making my 3% H202. If it is alright to use tap I would rather do this, but if it is *really* necessary to use DW then I will do that. I noticed on the H202 site it just mentions water. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectarchives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Your mouth dried out because you slept with it open all night and blew wind across everything...leaving the minerals behind. The bodies membranes work like intelligent reverse osmosis filters to maintain balances. I suppose they can be overloaded, but underloaded is questionable. I seriously doubt you'll lose anything by drinking pure water, nor do you have any control over how much of *what* minerals are in impure water. ..and try getting pure Broccoli or Spinach or deer burger..'tain't no such a thang. although, it has been rumored that eating too much eggplant WILL make you cluck in your sleep all night and grow feathers. Oh yea..diluting H2O2 with tap water will probably make the stuff go flat faster, like Mentos and soda pop. Surface nucleation of bubbles...not to mention oxidizing any organic content. ode At 02:36 PM 4/17/2010 -0500, you wrote: WOW. I was wondering as at night my mouth gets dry like I am dehydrated. Thanks for responding. Leslie - Original Message - From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 2:29 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again I have read that distilled water not only does not provide the body with minerals but actually acts as a magnet and draws them out of the body. I read this a long time ago and it seemed plausible. PT - Original Message - From: Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 3:12 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine. - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:22 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again Dee, I would personally use distilled, but then I use distilled for nearly everything, to avoid the contaminants in the tap water. But the way to decide would be to consider what you plan to use that H202 for, and whether tap water minerals and contaminants are going to be undesireable for those uses. sol Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Can anyone (Tony?) tell me if I should use tap water or distilled water when making my 3% H202. If it is alright to use tap I would rather do this, but if it is *really* necessary to use DW then I will do that. I noticed on the H202 site it just mentions water. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Distilled is like...rain water. I'd think that most of your minerals come from food anyhow...but sure, take minerals in either case if you think you need them. ode At 02:12 PM 4/17/2010 -0500, you wrote: I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine. - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:22 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again Dee, I would personally use distilled, but then I use distilled for nearly everything, to avoid the contaminants in the tap water. But the way to decide would be to consider what you plan to use that H202 for, and whether tap water minerals and contaminants are going to be undesireable for those uses. sol Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Can anyone (Tony?) tell me if I should use tap water or distilled water when making my 3% H202. If it is alright to use tap I would rather do this, but if it is *really* necessary to use DW then I will do that. I noticed on the H202 site it just mentions water. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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But if it is Alkaline, won't that tend to dissolve Aluminum into it?...the 3rd most common element in the earths crust. Water running around in the mish mash of environmental elements goes neutral. What it picks up along the way to neutralize it depends on the mish mash. Ode At 05:22 PM 4/17/2010 -0700, you wrote: Chuck, True. However adding minerals to the water makes it less acidic and more alkaline. Bob - Original Message - From: cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 4:17 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again The theory is a bit controversial. Consider where you get most of your bioavailable minerals from...(hint...FOOD). Water is a minor source. Chuck If you don't cook you get a raw deal every meal! On 4/17/2010 3:29:49 PM, needling around (ptf2...@bellsouth.net) wrote: I have read that distilled water not only does not provide the body with minerals but actually acts as a magnet and draws them out of the body. I read this a long time ago and it seemed plausible. PT - Original Message - From: Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 3:12 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I've heard that too, but I don't believe it. Depending on where you are, the water you get can contain all kinds of different minerals, including chlorine, fluoride, and other not-so-desirable things. If your health depended on what the local town delivers in your drinking water, then we'd all be in trouble. Personally I drink either reverse osmosis or distilled water, or bottled water on occasion. But I also take vitamin and mineral supplements, so I know what I'm getting, and what I'm not getting. Dick - Original Message From: leslie leslie1...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, April 17, 2010 3:36:16 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again WOW. I was wondering as at night my mouth gets dry like I am dehydrated. Thanks for responding. Leslie - Original Message - From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 2:29 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again I have read that distilled water not only does not provide the body with minerals but actually acts as a magnet and draws them out of the body. I read this a long time ago and it seemed plausible. PT - Original Message - From: Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 3:12 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine. - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:22 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again Dee, I would personally use distilled, but then I use distilled for nearly everything, to avoid the contaminants in the tap water. But the way to decide would be to consider what you plan to use that H202 for, and whether tap water minerals and contaminants are going to be undesireable for those uses. sol Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Can anyone (Tony?) tell me if I should use tap water or distilled water when making my 3% H202. If it is alright to use tap I would rather do this, but if it is *really* necessary to use DW then I will do that. I noticed on the H202 site it just mentions water. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I don't know really sol, just cleaning work tops down, mouth wash perhaps, and maybe if my CS goes yellow again! I hope this doesn't happen as I have soaked the rods in H202 3% and then rinsed in hot water and then distilled water. dee On 17 Apr 2010, at 19:22, sol wrote: Dee, I would personally use distilled, but then I use distilled for nearly everything, to avoid the contaminants in the tap water. But the way to decide would be to consider what you plan to use that H202 for, and whether tap water minerals and contaminants are going to be undesireable for those uses. sol Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Can anyone (Tony?) tell me if I should use tap water or distilled water when making my 3% H202. If it is alright to use tap I would rather do this, but if it is *really* necessary to use DW then I will do that. I noticed on the H202 site it just mentions water. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I can't drink just distilled water, it makes me thirsty! Also I can't stand the taste - it even tastes my CS. Having said this--and I know we all have before - at length - I realise that this is probably just me and my taste-buds. My friend drank my distilled water and loved it--but she doesn't drink tea or coffee so her taste buds are probably not tainted lol dee On 17 Apr 2010, at 22:58, sol wrote: I drink only distilled water and have done for several years now. I've not noticed any problems with mineral levels in my annual blood work. Everyone has to make their own decision on this issue, but after extensive online research, I personally decided (for myself ) that it is better to drink clean water, without pesticides, cysts and spores, lead, fluoride, chlorine, and so forth. There is naturally occurring fluoride in the water here which I do not want. Distillation is one of the very few ways of removing fluoride from water, regular filtering does not remove fluoride, that is faucet filters, shower filters, Brita type filters, none of those remove fluoride. There are multiple products on the market which can be added to distilled water to add minerals back in, but I do not use any of them myself. If your mouth is dry overnight, you probably are getting dehydrated, but I don't believe that is because of drinking DW. I get dry mouth overnight but have done for umpty ump years, decades before I ever tasted a drop of DW. My husband has dry mouth and he doesn't drink any DW. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Thanks Tom, I think I have now decided to do this. I just was a bit worried about producing something which might be combustible! dee On 18 Apr 2010, at 06:24, poast wrote: Hello Dee, I would recommend using distilled water. That way you know what you have. Sometimes tap water can contain things that can reduce the strength of your solution. Distilled water is usually free from impurities. Tom -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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This is the quandary Tony--our drinking water reads about 255 on the TDS meter, and I have no idea what makes that reading! I know chlorine is one thing but I don't think they have put any fluoride in our particular water yet. Lord knows what else is in it though! dee On 18 Apr 2010, at 06:51, Tony Moody wrote: Dee, I would use good quality drinking water, but I'm not much of a purist. But someone recently recommended only using distilled water for diluting. On the fence, Tony -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Thanks Tina, I think it has to be DW now as I know our tap water has chlorine in it--amongst many other things I fear! dee On 18 Apr 2010, at 08:38, Christina Mattson wrote: Hi Dee, somewhere in the literature i collected it say's not to mix H2O2 with chlorine so if your tap water has chlorine in it then it's probably not a good idea. there's just one part on one of my sheets that say's to use Distilled water when mixing and that was for spraying seedlings. I drank it for a while and mixed it with distitlled water but for my plants i mix it with my well water. I don't drink my well water either since it was contaminated with choliform bacteria. We buy bottled water for regular drinking. Tina On 17 Apr 2010 at 12:46, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote about : Subject : CSH202 - again -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Concentrace ionic minerals are supposed to be good, but I personally think you would get most minerals from food. After all, we would naturally drink rainwater if we didn't live near a stream--or we didn't have a water recycling system. dee On 18 Apr 2010, at 00:42, Leslie wrote: OK. What should I do to add some minerals. You mentioned some filter and adding Clay? Would appreciate some suggestions and simple directions for me and reasonable px. Thanks. - Original Message - From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 5:37 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Dorothy, 70 - 100 years ago we did get our minerals from food. The problem is farmland has been overfarmed and farmed incorrectly which leached and destroyed much of the mineral content of the topsoil. As a result our food is devoid of many trace minerals. If you have a garden or farm, a supplement like Azomite would be great to add to the soil as fertilizer. Your veggies would be brimming with minerals formed 40 million years ago when these substances were in abundance. Since factory farms don't use organic methods you will get only a few select minerals that might help grow the plants but do little for your varied needs. Bob - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 5:55 AM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again Concentrace ionic minerals are supposed to be good, but I personally think you would get most minerals from food. After all, we would naturally drink rainwater if we didn't live near a stream--or we didn't have a water recycling system. dee On 18 Apr 2010, at 00:42, Leslie wrote: OK. What should I do to add some minerals. You mentioned some filter and adding Clay? Would appreciate some suggestions and simple directions for me and reasonable px. Thanks. - Original Message - From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 5:37 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Not if the water has no contact with aluminum. The minerals I'm talking about are added as a last stage in the filtration process, not coming from the ground. Bob - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 1:17 AM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again But if it is Alkaline, won't that tend to dissolve Aluminum into it?...the 3rd most common element in the earths crust. Water running around in the mish mash of environmental elements goes neutral. What it picks up along the way to neutralize it depends on the mish mash. Ode At 05:22 PM 4/17/2010 -0700, you wrote: Chuck, True. However adding minerals to the water makes it less acidic and more alkaline. Bob - Original Message - From: cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 4:17 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again The theory is a bit controversial. Consider where you get most of your bioavailable minerals from...(hint...FOOD). Water is a minor source. Chuck If you don't cook you get a raw deal every meal! On 4/17/2010 3:29:49 PM, needling around (ptf2...@bellsouth.net) wrote: I have read that distilled water not only does not provide the body with minerals but actually acts as a magnet and draws them out of the body. I read this a long time ago and it seemed plausible. PT - Original Message - From: Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 3:12 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Bob Banever wrote: sol, You can remove fluoride from your drinking water with a good (at least 6 stage) reverse osmosis filtration system. I have a remineralizing filter as the last stage in mine to add trace minerals lost in the filtration. These are usually volcanic or clay minerals that do not contain fluoride. Good luck i know. to shorten my reply a bit, i left out that reverse osmosis removes fluoride. too expensive sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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But I would have thought that the farmers put it back in the soil in supplemental form or else we would all be dead! I realize it is not ideal though because we wouldn't have so much disease in the world, but there are other factors too. dee On 18 Apr 2010, at 14:51, Bob Banever wrote: Dorothy, 70 - 100 years ago we did get our minerals from food. The problem is farmland has been overfarmed and farmed incorrectly which leached and destroyed much of the mineral content of the topsoil. As a result our food is devoid of many trace minerals. If you have a garden or farm, a supplement like Azomite would be great to add to the soil as fertilizer. Your veggies would be brimming with minerals formed 40 million years ago when these substances were in abundance. Since factory farms don't use organic methods you will get only a few select minerals that might help grow the plants but do little for your varied needs. Bob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Distilled water should have no taste or odor at all. Just pure water. On the other hand, if it isn't made right, or isn't really distilled water, or if there are certain contaminants that might vaporize along with the water and then condense back into the output water, then there really could be something in there. I have heard that it tastes flat -- meaning flavorless -- but that's exactly what it should taste like. If water tastes good, it might have something in it that is not good for you, like the benzine infected bottled water from Europe a few years back -- had a nice sweet taste to it. Dick - Original Message From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, April 18, 2010 8:38:24 AM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again I can't drink just distilled water, it makes me thirsty! Also I can't stand the taste - it even tastes my CS. Having said this--and I know we all have before - at length - I realise that this is probably just me and my taste-buds. My friend drank my distilled water and loved it--but she doesn't drink tea or coffee so her taste buds are probably not tainted lol dee On 17 Apr 2010, at 22:58, sol wrote: I drink only distilled water and have done for several years now. I've not noticed any problems with mineral levels in my annual blood work. Everyone has to make their own decision on this issue, but after extensive online research, I personally decided (for myself ) that it is better to drink clean water, without pesticides, cysts and spores, lead, fluoride, chlorine, and so forth. There is naturally occurring fluoride in the water here which I do not want. Distillation is one of the very few ways of removing fluoride from water, regular filtering does not remove fluoride, that is faucet filters, shower filters, Brita type filters, none of those remove fluoride. There are multiple products on the market which can be added to distilled water to add minerals back in, but I do not use any of them myself. If your mouth is dry overnight, you probably are getting dehydrated, but I don't believe that is because of drinking DW. I get dry mouth overnight but have done for umpty ump years, decades before I ever tasted a drop of DW. My husband has dry mouth and he doesn't drink any DW. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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How do you *not* make it right? I put mine in a clean distiller and out comes distilled water - reading 000 on the TDS meter. It makes clear CS every time, so I can't see that it isn't correct. It still has a horrible taste to me though. As I said before, and many people say this - it is all in the individual taste buds. dee PS the double distilled water I used to buy had the same taste. On 18 Apr 2010, at 16:07, Richard Goodwin wrote: Distilled water should have no taste or odor at all. Just pure water. On the other hand, if it isn't made right, or isn't really distilled water, or if there are certain contaminants that might vaporize along with the water and then condense back into the output water, then there really could be something in there. I have heard that it tastes flat -- meaning flavorless -- but that's exactly what it should taste like. If water tastes good, it might have something in it that is not good for you, like the benzine infected bottled water from Europe a few years back -- had a nice sweet taste to it. Dick -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: I can't drink just distilled water, it makes me thirsty! Also I can't stand the taste - it even tastes my CS. Having said this--and I know we all have before - at length - I realise that this is probably just me and my taste-buds. My friend drank my distilled water and loved it--but she doesn't drink tea or coffee so her taste buds are probably not tainted lol dee I like the taste of distilled water, and have done from my first swallow of it. Adding other minerals to DW, even a bit of salt just makes it taste bad.LOL. Like those bottled waters with minerals added for taste taste nasty to me...however, when i feel like i need salt, i can drink 4 oz of dw with half a tsp of salt added and it tastes good to me. different tastes for different people, life is too short to eat or drink anything that doesn't taste good sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH202 - again
Drinking only Distilled water is not good, I have done much research on the subject. Google AZOMITE and you can find the worlds best mineral additive. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, April 18, 2010 8:31:57 AM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: I can't drink just distilled water, it makes me thirsty! Also I can't stand the taste - it even tastes my CS. Having said this--and I know we all have before - at length - I realise that this is probably just me and my taste-buds. My friend drank my distilled water and loved it--but she doesn't drink tea or coffee so her taste buds are probably not tainted lol dee I like the taste of distilled water, and have done from my first swallow of it. Adding other minerals to DW, even a bit of salt just makes it taste bad.LOL. Like those bottled waters with minerals added for taste taste nasty to me...however, when i feel like i need salt, i can drink 4 oz of dw with half a tsp of salt added and it tastes good to me. different tastes for different people, life is too short to eat or drink anything that doesn't taste good sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hello Leslie, It is the PWT by Hanna. There are several sources for it, but I got mine from Trem at SilverGen. I think he is selling for around $77 with the calibration solution. Tom - Original Message - From: leslie leslie1...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 8:51 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again How much does that meter cost? My batteries are out of that TDS (?) meter and it takes 4 or 6 which is 6.75 at Utopia. I am not sure that is a really good meter either, so thinking to get another kind. thanks, Leslie - Original Message - From: poast po...@prodigy.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 12:32 AM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again Hello Leslie, My son complains of the drinking water in his city. We took the PWT meter and checked our water, which is absolutely great, and then added sea salt to distilled water to get the same conductivity reading. We came up with adding 0.6 grams of the sea salt to 1 gallon of distilled water. Tom - Original Message - From: Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 11:12 AM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine. - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:22 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again Dee, I would personally use distilled, but then I use distilled for nearly everything, to avoid the contaminants in the tap water. But the way to decide would be to consider what you plan to use that H202 for, and whether tap water minerals and contaminants are going to be undesireable for those uses. sol Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Can anyone (Tony?) tell me if I should use tap water or distilled water when making my 3% H202. If it is alright to use tap I would rather do this, but if it is *really* necessary to use DW then I will do that. I noticed on the H202 site it just mentions water. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hello Leslie, You are going to laugh at this, but we are using Aquarium salt. My son just went to the pet store and that is what he came back with. I have no idea how it stacks up to the other salts, but fish love it. I figure if it doesn't kill the fish it is probably OK to use. Tom - Original Message - From: Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 8:53 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again Did you use that Himalaya salt or plain sea salt from the health food store? I use that anyway. - Original Message - From: poast po...@prodigy.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 12:32 AM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again Hello Leslie, My son complains of the drinking water in his city. We took the PWT meter and checked our water, which is absolutely great, and then added sea salt to distilled water to get the same conductivity reading. We came up with adding 0.6 grams of the sea salt to 1 gallon of distilled water. Tom - Original Message - From: Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 11:12 AM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine. - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:22 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again Dee, I would personally use distilled, but then I use distilled for nearly everything, to avoid the contaminants in the tap water. But the way to decide would be to consider what you plan to use that H202 for, and whether tap water minerals and contaminants are going to be undesireable for those uses. sol Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Can anyone (Tony?) tell me if I should use tap water or distilled water when making my 3% H202. If it is alright to use tap I would rather do this, but if it is *really* necessary to use DW then I will do that. I noticed on the H202 site it just mentions water. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Probably just fine. Think we humans get the worst of it. I used sea salt last night. - Original Message - From: poast po...@prodigy.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 8:08 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again Hello Leslie, You are going to laugh at this, but we are using Aquarium salt. My son just went to the pet store and that is what he came back with. I have no idea how it stacks up to the other salts, but fish love it. I figure if it doesn't kill the fish it is probably OK to use. Tom - Original Message - From: Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 8:53 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again Did you use that Himalaya salt or plain sea salt from the health food store? I use that anyway. - Original Message - From: poast po...@prodigy.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 12:32 AM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again Hello Leslie, My son complains of the drinking water in his city. We took the PWT meter and checked our water, which is absolutely great, and then added sea salt to distilled water to get the same conductivity reading. We came up with adding 0.6 grams of the sea salt to 1 gallon of distilled water. Tom - Original Message - From: Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 11:12 AM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine. - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:22 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again Dee, I would personally use distilled, but then I use distilled for nearly everything, to avoid the contaminants in the tap water. But the way to decide would be to consider what you plan to use that H202 for, and whether tap water minerals and contaminants are going to be undesireable for those uses. sol Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Can anyone (Tony?) tell me if I should use tap water or distilled water when making my 3% H202. If it is alright to use tap I would rather do this, but if it is *really* necessary to use DW then I will do that. I noticed on the H202 site it just mentions water. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hello Ode, Correction... Distilled water is like rain water before it falls through all the dust and other crap in the air. Tom - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 11:36 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again Distilled is like...rain water. I'd think that most of your minerals come from food anyhow...but sure, take minerals in either case if you think you need them. ode At 02:12 PM 4/17/2010 -0500, you wrote: I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine. - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:22 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again Dee, I would personally use distilled, but then I use distilled for nearly everything, to avoid the contaminants in the tap water. But the way to decide would be to consider what you plan to use that H202 for, and whether tap water minerals and contaminants are going to be undesireable for those uses. sol Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Can anyone (Tony?) tell me if I should use tap water or distilled water when making my 3% H202. If it is alright to use tap I would rather do this, but if it is *really* necessary to use DW then I will do that. I noticed on the H202 site it just mentions water. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hello Ode, Mentos and soda pop...? Is there a story that goes with that? Tom - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 12:02 AM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again Your mouth dried out because you slept with it open all night and blew wind across everything...leaving the minerals behind. The bodies membranes work like intelligent reverse osmosis filters to maintain balances. I suppose they can be overloaded, but underloaded is questionable. I seriously doubt you'll lose anything by drinking pure water, nor do you have any control over how much of *what* minerals are in impure water. ..and try getting pure Broccoli or Spinach or deer burger..'tain't no such a thang. although, it has been rumored that eating too much eggplant WILL make you cluck in your sleep all night and grow feathers. Oh yea..diluting H2O2 with tap water will probably make the stuff go flat faster, like Mentos and soda pop. Surface nucleation of bubbles...not to mention oxidizing any organic content. ode At 02:36 PM 4/17/2010 -0500, you wrote: WOW. I was wondering as at night my mouth gets dry like I am dehydrated. Thanks for responding. Leslie - Original Message - From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 2:29 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again I have read that distilled water not only does not provide the body with minerals but actually acts as a magnet and draws them out of the body. I read this a long time ago and it seemed plausible. PT - Original Message - From: Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 3:12 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine. - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:22 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again Dee, I would personally use distilled, but then I use distilled for nearly everything, to avoid the contaminants in the tap water. But the way to decide would be to consider what you plan to use that H202 for, and whether tap water minerals and contaminants are going to be undesireable for those uses. sol Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Can anyone (Tony?) tell me if I should use tap water or distilled water when making my 3% H202. If it is alright to use tap I would rather do this, but if it is *really* necessary to use DW then I will do that. I noticed on the H202 site it just mentions water. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSH202 - again
Can anyone (Tony?) tell me if I should use tap water or distilled water when making my 3% H202. If it is alright to use tap I would rather do this, but if it is *really* necessary to use DW then I will do that. I noticed on the H202 site it just mentions water. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Dee, I would personally use distilled, but then I use distilled for nearly everything, to avoid the contaminants in the tap water. But the way to decide would be to consider what you plan to use that H202 for, and whether tap water minerals and contaminants are going to be undesireable for those uses. sol Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Can anyone (Tony?) tell me if I should use tap water or distilled water when making my 3% H202. If it is alright to use tap I would rather do this, but if it is *really* necessary to use DW then I will do that. I noticed on the H202 site it just mentions water. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine. - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:22 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again Dee, I would personally use distilled, but then I use distilled for nearly everything, to avoid the contaminants in the tap water. But the way to decide would be to consider what you plan to use that H202 for, and whether tap water minerals and contaminants are going to be undesireable for those uses. sol Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Can anyone (Tony?) tell me if I should use tap water or distilled water when making my 3% H202. If it is alright to use tap I would rather do this, but if it is *really* necessary to use DW then I will do that. I noticed on the H202 site it just mentions water. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I have read that distilled water not only does not provide the body with minerals but actually acts as a magnet and draws them out of the body. I read this a long time ago and it seemed plausible. PT - Original Message - From: Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 3:12 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine. - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:22 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again Dee, I would personally use distilled, but then I use distilled for nearly everything, to avoid the contaminants in the tap water. But the way to decide would be to consider what you plan to use that H202 for, and whether tap water minerals and contaminants are going to be undesireable for those uses. sol Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Can anyone (Tony?) tell me if I should use tap water or distilled water when making my 3% H202. If it is alright to use tap I would rather do this, but if it is *really* necessary to use DW then I will do that. I noticed on the H202 site it just mentions water. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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WOW. I was wondering as at night my mouth gets dry like I am dehydrated. Thanks for responding. Leslie - Original Message - From: needling around ptf2...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 2:29 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again I have read that distilled water not only does not provide the body with minerals but actually acts as a magnet and draws them out of the body. I read this a long time ago and it seemed plausible. PT - Original Message - From: Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 3:12 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine. - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:22 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again Dee, I would personally use distilled, but then I use distilled for nearly everything, to avoid the contaminants in the tap water. But the way to decide would be to consider what you plan to use that H202 for, and whether tap water minerals and contaminants are going to be undesireable for those uses. sol Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Can anyone (Tony?) tell me if I should use tap water or distilled water when making my 3% H202. If it is alright to use tap I would rather do this, but if it is *really* necessary to use DW then I will do that. I noticed on the H202 site it just mentions water. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I drink only distilled water and have done for several years now. I've not noticed any problems with mineral levels in my annual blood work. Everyone has to make their own decision on this issue, but after extensive online research, I personally decided (for myself ) that it is better to drink clean water, without pesticides, cysts and spores, lead, fluoride, chlorine, and so forth. There is naturally occurring fluoride in the water here which I do not want. Distillation is one of the very few ways of removing fluoride from water, regular filtering does not remove fluoride, that is faucet filters, shower filters, Brita type filters, none of those remove fluoride. There are multiple products on the market which can be added to distilled water to add minerals back in, but I do not use any of them myself. If your mouth is dry overnight, you probably are getting dehydrated, but I don't believe that is because of drinking DW. I get dry mouth overnight but have done for umpty ump years, decades before I ever tasted a drop of DW. My husband has dry mouth and he doesn't drink any DW. sol Leslie wrote: I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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sol, You can remove fluoride from your drinking water with a good (at least 6 stage) reverse osmosis filtration system. I have a remineralizing filter as the last stage in mine to add trace minerals lost in the filtration. These are usually volcanic or clay minerals that do not contain fluoride. Good luck Bob - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 2:58 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again I drink only distilled water and have done for several years now. I've not noticed any problems with mineral levels in my annual blood work. Everyone has to make their own decision on this issue, but after extensive online research, I personally decided (for myself ) that it is better to drink clean water, without pesticides, cysts and spores, lead, fluoride, chlorine, and so forth. There is naturally occurring fluoride in the water here which I do not want. Distillation is one of the very few ways of removing fluoride from water, regular filtering does not remove fluoride, that is faucet filters, shower filters, Brita type filters, none of those remove fluoride. There are multiple products on the market which can be added to distilled water to add minerals back in, but I do not use any of them myself. If your mouth is dry overnight, you probably are getting dehydrated, but I don't believe that is because of drinking DW. I get dry mouth overnight but have done for umpty ump years, decades before I ever tasted a drop of DW. My husband has dry mouth and he doesn't drink any DW. sol Leslie wrote: I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I have a question, I also have a reverse osmosis system but the company I have mine from doesnt offer a remineralizing stage, might you know where I could purchase one of these? Elizabeth Williams belzi...@hotmail.com From: bbane...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSH202 - again Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 15:37:11 -0700 You can remove fluoride from your drinking water with a good (at least 6 stage) reverse osmosis filtration system. I have a remineralizing filter as the last stage in mine to add trace minerals lost in the filtration. These are usually volcanic or clay minerals that do not contain fluoride. Good luck Bob _ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2
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The theory is a bit controversial. Consider where you get most of your bioavailable minerals from...(hint...FOOD). Water is a minor source. Chuck If you don't cook you get a raw deal every meal! On 4/17/2010 3:29:49 PM, needling around (ptf2...@bellsouth.net) wrote: I have read that distilled water not only does not provide the body with minerals but actually acts as a magnet and draws them out of the body. I read this a long time ago and it seemed plausible. PT - Original Message - From: Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 3:12 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Elizabeth, Here is a link to the least expensive remineralizing filter I've seen. It contains coral which is made from ionic minerals. http://www.purewatersite.com/2quot-x-10quot-alkaline-ph-up-sea-coral-remineralization-filter-pw21010.html There are many others, some costing several hundred dollars each. Google remineralizing water filters for more info. Bob - Original Message - From: Elizabeth Williams To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 3:52 PM Subject: RE: CSH202 - again I have a question, I also have a reverse osmosis system but the company I have mine from doesnt offer a remineralizing stage, might you know where I could purchase one of these? Elizabeth Williams belzi...@hotmail.com From: bbane...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSH202 - again Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 15:37:11 -0700 You can remove fluoride from your drinking water with a good (at least 6 stage) reverse osmosis filtration system. I have a remineralizing filter as the last stage in mine to add trace minerals lost in the filtration. These are usually volcanic or clay minerals that do not contain fluoride. Good luck Bob -- Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. See how.
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OK. What should I do to add some minerals. You mentioned some filter and adding Clay? Would appreciate some suggestions and simple directions for me and reasonable px. Thanks. - Original Message - From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 5:37 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again sol, You can remove fluoride from your drinking water with a good (at least 6 stage) reverse osmosis filtration system. I have a remineralizing filter as the last stage in mine to add trace minerals lost in the filtration. These are usually volcanic or clay minerals that do not contain fluoride. Good luck Bob - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 2:58 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again I drink only distilled water and have done for several years now. I've not noticed any problems with mineral levels in my annual blood work. Everyone has to make their own decision on this issue, but after extensive online research, I personally decided (for myself ) that it is better to drink clean water, without pesticides, cysts and spores, lead, fluoride, chlorine, and so forth. There is naturally occurring fluoride in the water here which I do not want. Distillation is one of the very few ways of removing fluoride from water, regular filtering does not remove fluoride, that is faucet filters, shower filters, Brita type filters, none of those remove fluoride. There are multiple products on the market which can be added to distilled water to add minerals back in, but I do not use any of them myself. If your mouth is dry overnight, you probably are getting dehydrated, but I don't believe that is because of drinking DW. I get dry mouth overnight but have done for umpty ump years, decades before I ever tasted a drop of DW. My husband has dry mouth and he doesn't drink any DW. sol Leslie wrote: I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH202 - again Big Berkey water filter
I am using one of these water filters http://www.directive21.com/big-berkey.html . With the special fluoride filters, it removes the fluoride as well. I might add some Concentrace (minerals) to a gallon of water. I am sure there are other more advanced water filters which remove not only the nasties but also fluoride. Hanneke At 08:07 AM 18/04/2010, you wrote: sol, You can remove fluoride from your drinking water with a good (at least 6 stage) reverse osmosis filtration system. I have a remineralizing filter as the last stage in mine to add trace minerals lost in the filtration. These are usually volcanic or clay minerals that do not contain fluoride. Good luck Bob - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 2:58 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again I drink only distilled water and have done for several years now. I've not noticed any problems with mineral levels in my annual blood work. Everyone has to make their own decision on this issue, but after extensive online research, I personally decided (for myself ) that it is better to drink clean water, without pesticides, cysts and spores, lead, fluoride, chlorine, and so forth. There is naturally occurring fluoride in the water here which I do not want. Distillation is one of the very few ways of removing fluoride from water, regular filtering does not remove fluoride, that is faucet filters, shower filters, Brita type filters, none of those remove fluoride. There are multiple products on the market which can be added to distilled water to add minerals back in, but I do not use any of them myself. If your mouth is dry overnight, you probably are getting dehydrated, but I don't believe that is because of drinking DW. I get dry mouth overnight but have done for umpty ump years, decades before I ever tasted a drop of DW. My husband has dry mouth and he doesn't drink any DW. sol Leslie wrote: I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Chuck, True. However adding minerals to the water makes it less acidic and more alkaline. Bob - Original Message - From: cking...@nycap.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 4:17 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again The theory is a bit controversial. Consider where you get most of your bioavailable minerals from...(hint...FOOD). Water is a minor source. Chuck If you don't cook you get a raw deal every meal! On 4/17/2010 3:29:49 PM, needling around (ptf2...@bellsouth.net) wrote: I have read that distilled water not only does not provide the body with minerals but actually acts as a magnet and draws them out of the body. I read this a long time ago and it seemed plausible. PT - Original Message - From: Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 3:12 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Leslie, Assuming you have a RO system already installed, here is a link to an inexpensive remineralizing filter that you can add to your existing system, Bob http://www.purewatersite.com/2quot-x-10quot-alkaline-ph-up-sea-coral-remineralization-filter-pw21010.html - Original Message - From: Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 4:42 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again OK. What should I do to add some minerals. You mentioned some filter and adding Clay? Would appreciate some suggestions and simple directions for me and reasonable px. Thanks. - Original Message - From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 5:37 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again sol, You can remove fluoride from your drinking water with a good (at least 6 stage) reverse osmosis filtration system. I have a remineralizing filter as the last stage in mine to add trace minerals lost in the filtration. These are usually volcanic or clay minerals that do not contain fluoride. Good luck Bob - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 2:58 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again I drink only distilled water and have done for several years now. I've not noticed any problems with mineral levels in my annual blood work. Everyone has to make their own decision on this issue, but after extensive online research, I personally decided (for myself ) that it is better to drink clean water, without pesticides, cysts and spores, lead, fluoride, chlorine, and so forth. There is naturally occurring fluoride in the water here which I do not want. Distillation is one of the very few ways of removing fluoride from water, regular filtering does not remove fluoride, that is faucet filters, shower filters, Brita type filters, none of those remove fluoride. There are multiple products on the market which can be added to distilled water to add minerals back in, but I do not use any of them myself. If your mouth is dry overnight, you probably are getting dehydrated, but I don't believe that is because of drinking DW. I get dry mouth overnight but have done for umpty ump years, decades before I ever tasted a drop of DW. My husband has dry mouth and he doesn't drink any DW. sol Leslie wrote: I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH202 - again Big Berkey water filter
FWIW I filter with two standard size 10 filters in standard sized housings. Connected together. First is one micron carbon block, then activated alumina filter to remove fluorides. On an urban water system I see little sediment so no sediment filter. Total cost is $50 for the filters and should be replaced once per year according to my extremely knowledgeable local expert. The one micron carbon is made from lignite, not coconut shells. Better suited to the water here. So says my expert G On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 7:55 PM, Hanneke bloss...@internode.on.net wrote: I am using one of these water filters http://www.directive21.com/big-berkey.html . With the special fluoride filters, it removes the fluoride as well. I might add some Concentrace (minerals) to a gallon of water. I am sure there are other more advanced water filters which remove not only the nasties but also fluoride. Hanneke At 08:07 AM 18/04/2010, you wrote: sol, You can remove fluoride from your drinking water with a good (at least 6 stage) reverse osmosis filtration system. I have a remineralizing filter as the last stage in mine to add trace minerals lost in the filtration. These are usually volcanic or clay minerals that do not contain fluoride. Good luck Bob - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 2:58 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again I drink only distilled water and have done for several years now. I've not noticed any problems with mineral levels in my annual blood work. Everyone has to make their own decision on this issue, but after extensive online research, I personally decided (for myself ) that it is better to drink clean water, without pesticides, cysts and spores, lead, fluoride, chlorine, and so forth. There is naturally occurring fluoride in the water here which I do not want. Distillation is one of the very few ways of removing fluoride from water, regular filtering does not remove fluoride, that is faucet filters, shower filters, Brita type filters, none of those remove fluoride. There are multiple products on the market which can be added to distilled water to add minerals back in, but I do not use any of them myself. If your mouth is dry overnight, you probably are getting dehydrated, but I don't believe that is because of drinking DW. I get dry mouth overnight but have done for umpty ump years, decades before I ever tasted a drop of DW. My husband has dry mouth and he doesn't drink any DW. sol Leslie wrote: I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- Gurdjieff-- How can you expect fairness and decency on a planet of sleeping people?
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Hi Leslie, I drink nothing but distilled water. I fill up a 5 gallon glass container with distilled water then add sole [http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/saltsole.htm] made from Himalayan sea salt which is loaded with minerals and trace elements. I put 1 Tbsp per gallon. Obviously there have been some who claim Himalayan sea salt is no better for you than any other salt but from my own experience it has not harmed me in any way that I'm aware of. Just something to think about. Best regards, Sandy http://buyingkefirgrains.blogspot.com/ http://heavenly-haiku.blogspot.com/ --- On Sat, 4/17/10, Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net wrote: From: Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net Subject: Re: CSH202 - again To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Saturday, April 17, 2010, 6:42 PM OK. What should I do to add some minerals. You mentioned some filter and adding Clay? Would appreciate some suggestions and simple directions for me and reasonable px. Thanks. - Original Message - From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 5:37 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again sol, You can remove fluoride from your drinking water with a good (at least 6 stage) reverse osmosis filtration system. I have a remineralizing filter as the last stage in mine to add trace minerals lost in the filtration. These are usually volcanic or clay minerals that do not contain fluoride. Good luck Bob - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 2:58 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again I drink only distilled water and have done for several years now. I've not noticed any problems with mineral levels in my annual blood work. Everyone has to make their own decision on this issue, but after extensive online research, I personally decided (for myself ) that it is better to drink clean water, without pesticides, cysts and spores, lead, fluoride, chlorine, and so forth. There is naturally occurring fluoride in the water here which I do not want. Distillation is one of the very few ways of removing fluoride from water, regular filtering does not remove fluoride, that is faucet filters, shower filters, Brita type filters, none of those remove fluoride. There are multiple products on the market which can be added to distilled water to add minerals back in, but I do not use any of them myself. If your mouth is dry overnight, you probably are getting dehydrated, but I don't believe that is because of drinking DW. I get dry mouth overnight but have done for umpty ump years, decades before I ever tasted a drop of DW. My husband has dry mouth and he doesn't drink any DW. sol Leslie wrote: I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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A pinch of good ol' sea salt will do it. Not enough to make the water salty just add a few trace minerals. Or you can buy an ionic trace mineral and add a couple of drop per gallon. Annie Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh Leslie wrote: OK. What should I do to add some minerals. You mentioned some filter and adding Clay? Would appreciate some suggestions and simple directions for me and reasonable px. Thanks. - Original Message - From: Bob Banever bbane...@earthlink.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 5:37 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again sol, You can remove fluoride from your drinking water with a good (at least 6 stage) reverse osmosis filtration system. I have a remineralizing filter as the last stage in mine to add trace minerals lost in the filtration. These are usually volcanic or clay minerals that do not contain fluoride. Good luck Bob - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 2:58 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again I drink only distilled water and have done for several years now. I've not noticed any problems with mineral levels in my annual blood work. Everyone has to make their own decision on this issue, but after extensive online research, I personally decided (for myself ) that it is better to drink clean water, without pesticides, cysts and spores, lead, fluoride, chlorine, and so forth. There is naturally occurring fluoride in the water here which I do not want. Distillation is one of the very few ways of removing fluoride from water, regular filtering does not remove fluoride, that is faucet filters, shower filters, Brita type filters, none of those remove fluoride. There are multiple products on the market which can be added to distilled water to add minerals back in, but I do not use any of them myself. If your mouth is dry overnight, you probably are getting dehydrated, but I don't believe that is because of drinking DW. I get dry mouth overnight but have done for umpty ump years, decades before I ever tasted a drop of DW. My husband has dry mouth and he doesn't drink any DW. sol Leslie wrote: I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH202 - again
Hello Dee, I would recommend using distilled water. That way you know what you have. Sometimes tap water can contain things that can reduce the strength of your solution. Distilled water is usually free from impurities. Tom - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 3:46 AM Subject: CSH202 - again Can anyone (Tony?) tell me if I should use tap water or distilled water when making my 3% H202. If it is alright to use tap I would rather do this, but if it is *really* necessary to use DW then I will do that. I noticed on the H202 site it just mentions water. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hello Leslie, My son complains of the drinking water in his city. We took the PWT meter and checked our water, which is absolutely great, and then added sea salt to distilled water to get the same conductivity reading. We came up with adding 0.6 grams of the sea salt to 1 gallon of distilled water. Tom - Original Message - From: Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 11:12 AM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine. - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:22 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again Dee, I would personally use distilled, but then I use distilled for nearly everything, to avoid the contaminants in the tap water. But the way to decide would be to consider what you plan to use that H202 for, and whether tap water minerals and contaminants are going to be undesireable for those uses. sol Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Can anyone (Tony?) tell me if I should use tap water or distilled water when making my 3% H202. If it is alright to use tap I would rather do this, but if it is *really* necessary to use DW then I will do that. I noticed on the H202 site it just mentions water. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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How much does that meter cost? My batteries are out of that TDS (?) meter and it takes 4 or 6 which is 6.75 at Utopia. I am not sure that is a really good meter either, so thinking to get another kind. thanks, Leslie - Original Message - From: poast po...@prodigy.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 12:32 AM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again Hello Leslie, My son complains of the drinking water in his city. We took the PWT meter and checked our water, which is absolutely great, and then added sea salt to distilled water to get the same conductivity reading. We came up with adding 0.6 grams of the sea salt to 1 gallon of distilled water. Tom - Original Message - From: Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 11:12 AM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine. - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:22 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again Dee, I would personally use distilled, but then I use distilled for nearly everything, to avoid the contaminants in the tap water. But the way to decide would be to consider what you plan to use that H202 for, and whether tap water minerals and contaminants are going to be undesireable for those uses. sol Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Can anyone (Tony?) tell me if I should use tap water or distilled water when making my 3% H202. If it is alright to use tap I would rather do this, but if it is *really* necessary to use DW then I will do that. I noticed on the H202 site it just mentions water. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Did you use that Himalaya salt or plain sea salt from the health food store? I use that anyway. - Original Message - From: poast po...@prodigy.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 12:32 AM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again Hello Leslie, My son complains of the drinking water in his city. We took the PWT meter and checked our water, which is absolutely great, and then added sea salt to distilled water to get the same conductivity reading. We came up with adding 0.6 grams of the sea salt to 1 gallon of distilled water. Tom - Original Message - From: Leslie leslie1...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 11:12 AM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again I have started drinking distilled water only. Should I be taking extra minerals?? Our water is terrible and bad things added also like Chlorine. - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 1:22 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - again Dee, I would personally use distilled, but then I use distilled for nearly everything, to avoid the contaminants in the tap water. But the way to decide would be to consider what you plan to use that H202 for, and whether tap water minerals and contaminants are going to be undesireable for those uses. sol Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Can anyone (Tony?) tell me if I should use tap water or distilled water when making my 3% H202. If it is alright to use tap I would rather do this, but if it is *really* necessary to use DW then I will do that. I noticed on the H202 site it just mentions water. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH202 - again
Dee, I would use good quality drinking water, but I'm not much of a purist. But someone recently recommended only using distilled water for diluting. On the fence, Tony On 17 Apr 2010 at 12:46, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote about : Subject : CSH202 - again Can anyone (Tony?) tell me if I should use tap water or distilled water when making my 3% H202. If it is alright to use tap I would rather do this, but if it is *really* necessary to use DW then I will do that. I noticed on the H202 site it just mentions water. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subjectarchives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSH202 - Dee
Dee, If I were you, I would not give up on H2O2 just yet. I am a believer that you do not need to take the progressive increments of H2O2 to get significant benefits if used over the long term. Small amounts can have impacts much greater than just the amount of oxygen contained in the H2O2 itself. See: http://curezone.com/art/read.asp?ID=73db=5C0=1 No one yet fully understands the complete workings of hydrogen peroxide. We do know that it is loaded with oxygen. (A pint of the food-grade 35% solution contains the equivalent of 130 pints of oxygen. A pint of 3% hydrogen peroxide found at the local drugstore contains 10 pints of oxygen. And a pint of the 6% solution used to bleach hair contains 20 pints of oxygen.) We also know that when H202 is taken into the body (orally or intravenously) the oxygen content of the blood and body tissues increases dramatically. Early researchers felt these increases were simply due to the extra oxygen molecule being released. This doesn´t however, appear to be the case. Only very diluted amounts of H202 are ever introduced into the body. The small amount of oxygen present couldn´t be solely responsible for the dramatic changes that take place. Dr. Charles Farr, a strong proponent of intravenous use, has discovered another possible answer. Dr. Farr has shown that hydrogen peroxide stimulates enzyme systems throughout the body. This triggers an increase in the metabolic rate, causes small arteries to dilate and increase blood flow, enhances the body´s distribution and consumption of oxygen and raises body temperature (Proceedings of the International Conference on Bio-Oxidative Medicine 1989, 1990, 1991). The thing that most convinced me to use H2O2, and now ozone as well, was a testimonial I read from an older person who underwent a major surgery. After the operation, the surgeon mentioned to the person that he was amazed by what he saw when he opened up the patients abdomen. He said that all the internal organs were pink and very healthy and that in all his experience he had never seen anything like it except in young patients. The patient used H2O2 orally, and not in high doses. That is what I am looking for as a result of my use. Just use the low dose approach over time it will make a difference. In my opinion, there is no need to try and correct in a few weeks that which has taken years to build up. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:18 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSH202 - Snopes I think I have decided to just dilute this and use as surface cleaners, sol! It is all a bit scary for me and I wonder if there are actually any benefits, which doesn't seem to have been the case with you, I feel. dee On 3 Dec 2009, at 03:59, sol wrote: Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Snopes commented that it would be unwise to use H202 internally because it can cause bubbles in the blood. Although it probably means intravenous application I wonder if there are any contraindications to using it orally, as Snopes advises that there are. Any comments? dee I tried a protocol of oral H202, can't remember what amount it started with, but it was taken in water (a few drops) then you took more and more until a certain point, kept that up for a certain number of days, then ramped down again. Whatever, as I worked the amount of H202 up, it tasted worse and worse, and made me feel nauseous, finally I simply could not tolerate it and stopped. I still cannot even stand the taste of H202 at all anymore, not even a few drops in CS. When I try to use diluted H202 as a mouth rinse it will make me feel sick to my stomach, many years later. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH202 - Dee
thanks Steve, I had originally started taking it because of experiencing long term near-constipation and sluggish lymph (one stemming from the other I suppose) and thought it might help some. Also to oxygenate cells. dee On 4 Dec 2009, at 18:58, Norton, Steve wrote: Dee, If I were you, I would not give up on H2O2 just yet. I am a believer that you do not need to take the progressive increments of H2O2 to get significant benefits if used over the long term. Small amounts can have impacts much greater than just the amount of oxygen contained in the H2O2 itself. See: http://curezone.com/art/read.asp?ID=73db=5C0=1 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH202 - Snopes
I think I have decided to just dilute this and use as surface cleaners, sol! It is all a bit scary for me and I wonder if there are actually any benefits, which doesn't seem to have been the case with you, I feel. dee On 3 Dec 2009, at 03:59, sol wrote: Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Snopes commented that it would be unwise to use H202 internally because it can cause bubbles in the blood. Although it probably means intravenous application I wonder if there are any contraindications to using it orally, as Snopes advises that there are. Any comments? dee I tried a protocol of oral H202, can't remember what amount it started with, but it was taken in water (a few drops) then you took more and more until a certain point, kept that up for a certain number of days, then ramped down again. Whatever, as I worked the amount of H202 up, it tasted worse and worse, and made me feel nauseous, finally I simply could not tolerate it and stopped. I still cannot even stand the taste of H202 at all anymore, not even a few drops in CS. When I try to use diluted H202 as a mouth rinse it will make me feel sick to my stomach, many years later. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSH202 - Snopes
Snopes is wrong again. Thanks, Jim -Original Message- From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:18 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSH202 - Snopes I think I have decided to just dilute this and use as surface cleaners, sol! It is all a bit scary for me and I wonder if there are actually any benefits, which doesn't seem to have been the case with you, I feel. dee On 3 Dec 2009, at 03:59, sol wrote: Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Snopes commented that it would be unwise to use H202 internally because it can cause bubbles in the blood. Although it probably means intravenous application I wonder if there are any contraindications to using it orally, as Snopes advises that there are. Any comments? dee I tried a protocol of oral H202, can't remember what amount it started with, but it was taken in water (a few drops) then you took more and more until a certain point, kept that up for a certain number of days, then ramped down again. Whatever, as I worked the amount of H202 up, it tasted worse and worse, and made me feel nauseous, finally I simply could not tolerate it and stopped. I still cannot even stand the taste of H202 at all anymore, not even a few drops in CS. When I try to use diluted H202 as a mouth rinse it will make me feel sick to my stomach, many years later. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH202 - Snopes
Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Snopes commented that it would be unwise to use H202 internally because it can cause bubbles in the blood. Although it probably means intravenous application I wonder if there are any contraindications to using it orally, as Snopes advises that there are. Any comments? dee I tried a protocol of oral H202, can't remember what amount it started with, but it was taken in water (a few drops) then you took more and more until a certain point, kept that up for a certain number of days, then ramped down again. Whatever, as I worked the amount of H202 up, it tasted worse and worse, and made me feel nauseous, finally I simply could not tolerate it and stopped. I still cannot even stand the taste of H202 at all anymore, not even a few drops in CS. When I try to use diluted H202 as a mouth rinse it will make me feel sick to my stomach, many years later. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH202 - Snopes
No it wasn't Dick! I was talking about H202 originally, and Snopes article on it, and then someone came in about ozone, so I asked 'was H202 ozone then?' dee On 30 Nov 2009, at 20:47, Richard Goodwin wrote: Because your original question was: Is ozone H202? dee Cheers! Dick
Re: CSH202 - Snopes
What they have in common is that they are both oxidizers...they burn things. ode At 08:40 PM 11/30/2009 +, you wrote: I was just wondering how the question of ozone had arisen when I had posed one about H202? dee On 30 Nov 2009, at 19:59, Norton, Steve wrote: Ozone is usually O3 but can also be O4, O5, ... H2O2 is not ozone. - Steve N -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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And do you have any adverse/beneficial effects Scotty? dee On 29 Nov 2009, at 20:16, Scotty wrote: Dilute 3% H2O2 by at least 50% with water (I only use this externally and for gargling). 35% Food Grade H2O2, 4-5 drops in an 8oz. glass of water. That's how I do it! Scotty Have a great day! -
Re: CSh202
but when I put the 3% into my CS it went a murky green! This is why I bought the 35% but am now worried about its safety as I know you have to be really careful handling it. dee On 29 Nov 2009, at 22:10, Shirley Reed wrote: W.C.Douglas mentions that knowledgeable people come down on different sides of the fence regarding oral intake of h202. So he comes down on neither side and just reports both sides of the issue. But he does say that if one decides on the oral approach, the dose should not exceed 10 drops of the 3% three times a day on an empty stomach. To be on the safe side, be sure to check this out as I may not recall the correct figures!! I think they're right but it is your neck so check it out!! Also, somewhere someone said that the Birdman of Alcatraz was only allowed to use the 3% solution on the birds he saved, and there were apparently a lot of them. That was the only 'medication' he was allowed to access and it seems to have worked well. All the strengths of h202 use stabilizers and I was unable to understand the relative toxicities of the various chemicals and their concentrations. Douglas himself recommends the 3% as he feels it is sufficient and the extra h202 is not worth the extra money.pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSH202 - Snopes
I think you are right that they are referring to intravenous use. See: http://educate-yourself.org/ozone/ A second technique is to introduce the ozone directly into the bloodstream via intravenous injection. The idea of intravenous injection has raised concern with some people concerning the notion of gas embolism which might lead to a heart attack or blockage in the lungs. Gas embolisms, however, do not occur with pure ozone. Air, which is largely composed of 80% nitrogen and 20 % oxygen, will create a gas bubble in the blood at atmospheric pressure, but not ozone. Nitrogen will create a gas bubble in the blood at atmospheric pressure, but not ozone. The rate of ozone delivery and the very small needle used to inject the ozone, guarantee no possibility of gas embolism. Do not allow this bogus fear tactic to keep you from investigating this highly effective and safe therapy! - Steve N -Original Message- From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 12:06 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSH202 - Snopes Snopes commented that it would be unwise to use H202 internally because it can cause bubbles in the blood. Although it probably means intravenous application I wonder if there are any contraindications to using it orally, as Snopes advises that there are. Any comments? dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH202 - Snopes
Is ozone H202? dee On 30 Nov 2009, at 15:44, Norton, Steve wrote: I think you are right that they are referring to intravenous use. See: http://educate-yourself.org/ozone/ A second technique is to introduce the ozone directly into the bloodstream via intravenous injection. The idea of intravenous injection has raised concern with some people concerning the notion of gas embolism which might lead to a heart attack or blockage in the lungs. Gas embolisms, however, do not occur with pure ozone. Air, which is largely composed of 80% nitrogen and 20 % oxygen, will create a gas bubble in the blood at atmospheric pressure, but not ozone. Nitrogen will create a gas bubble in the blood at atmospheric pressure, but not ozone. The rate of ozone delivery and the very small needle used to inject the ozone, guarantee no possibility of gas embolism. Do not allow this bogus fear tactic to keep you from investigating this highly effective and safe therapy! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSH202 - Snopes
Ozone is usually O3 but can also be O4, O5, ... H2O2 is not ozone. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 11:48 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSH202 - Snopes Is ozone H202? dee On 30 Nov 2009, at 15:44, Norton, Steve wrote: I think you are right that they are referring to intravenous use. See: http://educate-yourself.org/ozone/ A second technique is to introduce the ozone directly into the bloodstream via intravenous injection. The idea of intravenous injection has raised concern with some people concerning the notion of gas embolism which might lead to a heart attack or blockage in the lungs. Gas embolisms, however, do not occur with pure ozone. Air, which is largely composed of 80% nitrogen and 20 % oxygen, will create a gas bubble in the blood at atmospheric pressure, but not ozone. Nitrogen will create a gas bubble in the blood at atmospheric pressure, but not ozone. The rate of ozone delivery and the very small needle used to inject the ozone, guarantee no possibility of gas embolism. Do not allow this bogus fear tactic to keep you from investigating this highly effective and safe therapy! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi -- I believe ozone is O3, and H2O2 is Hydrogen Peroxide. Dick From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, November 30, 2009 2:48:28 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - Snopes Is ozone H202? dee On 30 Nov 2009, at 15:44, Norton, Steve wrote: I think you are right that they are referring to intravenous use. See: http://educate-yourself.org/ozone/ A second technique is to introduce the ozone directly into the bloodstream via intravenous injection. The idea of intravenous injection has raised concern with some people concerning the notion of gas embolism which might lead to a heart attack or blockage in the lungs. Gas embolisms, however, do not occur with pure ozone. Air, which is largely composed of 80% nitrogen and 20 % oxygen, will create a gas bubble in the blood at atmospheric pressure, but not ozone. Nitrogen will create a gas bubble in the blood at atmospheric pressure, but not ozone. The rate of ozone delivery and the very small needle used to inject the ozone, guarantee no possibility of gas embolism. Do not allow this bogus fear tactic to keep you from investigating this highly effective and safe therapy! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH202 - Snopes
I was just wondering how the question of ozone had arisen when I had posed one about H202? dee On 30 Nov 2009, at 19:59, Norton, Steve wrote: Ozone is usually O3 but can also be O4, O5, ... H2O2 is not ozone. - Steve N -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Because your original question was: Is ozone H202? dee Cheers! Dick From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, November 30, 2009 3:40:23 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - Snopes I was just wondering how the question of ozone had arisen when I had posed one about H202? dee On 30 Nov 2009, at 19:59, Norton, Steve wrote: Ozone is usually O3 but can also be O4, O5, ... H2O2 is not ozone. - Steve N -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH202 - Snopes
I've injected ozone directly, 50cc, once per day, 300+ times. Got the viral load down to 66,000, but couldn't quite finish on acount of the oxidative stress. Anti-oxidants should be stressed to counter the oxidative effects. I now use ozonated saline solution 1-2x a week to treat hcv, and find this is the friendliest and effective of all, except this much sodium 500ml, introduced in a short time, raises the blood pressure, So I can only do a couple per week. From: Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, November 30, 2009 3:26:01 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - Snopes Hi -- I believe ozone is O3, and H2O2 is Hydrogen Peroxide. Dick From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, November 30, 2009 2:48:28 PM Subject: Re: CSH202 - Snopes Is ozone H202? dee On 30 Nov 2009, at 15:44, Norton, Steve wrote: I think you are right that they are referring to intravenous use. See: http://educate-yourself.org/ozone/ A second technique is to introduce the ozone directly into the bloodstream via intravenous injection. The idea of intravenous injection has raised concern with some people concerning the notion of gas embolism which might lead to a heart attack or blockage in the lungs. Gas embolisms, however, do not occur with pure ozone. Air, which is largely composed of 80% nitrogen and 20 % oxygen, will create a gas bubble in the blood at atmospheric pressure, but not ozone. Nitrogen will create a gas bubble in the blood at atmospheric pressure, but not ozone. The rate of ozone delivery and the very small needle used to inject the ozone, guarantee no possibility of gas embolism. Do not allow this bogus fear tactic to keep you from investigating this highly effective and safe therapy! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH202 and CS
... 10 times less is 2.5% in the same volume . [ ..about one drop per liter ? ] ode At 06:05 PM 11/28/2009 +, you wrote: I know this has been discussed before, but as I wasn't interested at the time I didn't take much notice. I have bought some H202 35% and it says to keep it in the freezer but I put the pipette thingy in the freezer and noticed it doesn't freeze. Is this correct? And should I keep the bottle in the freezer too. Also, how much would I put in say, a 1ltr jar of CS ? any info appreciated. I gave up with the 3% as all I got was a murky greeny colour so thought the 35% would be better. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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thanks Ode dee On 29 Nov 2009, at 11:02, Ode Coyote wrote: ... 10 times less is 2.5% in the same volume . [ ..about one drop per liter ? ] ode A -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSH202 - Snopes
Snopes commented that it would be unwise to use H202 internally because it can cause bubbles in the blood. Although it probably means intravenous application I wonder if there are any contraindications to using it orally, as Snopes advises that there are. Any comments? dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Dilute 3% H2O2 by at least 50% with water (I only use this externally and for gargling). 35% Food Grade H2O2, 4-5 drops in an 8oz. glass of water. That's how I do it! Scotty Have a great day! --- On Sun, 11/29/09, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote: From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org Subject: CSH202 - Snopes To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 12:06 PM Snopes commented that it would be unwise to use H202 internally because it can cause bubbles in the blood. Although it probably means intravenous application I wonder if there are any contraindications to using it orally, as Snopes advises that there are. Any comments? dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSh202
W.C.Douglas mentions that knowledgeable people come down on different sides of the fence regarding oral intake of h202. So he comes down on neither side and just reports both sides of the issue. But he does say that if one decides on the oral approach, the dose should not exceed 10 drops of the 3% three times a day on an empty stomach. To be on the safe side, be sure to check this out as I may not recall the correct figures!! I think they're right but it is your neck so check it out!! Also, somewhere someone said that the Birdman of Alcatraz was only allowed to use the 3% solution on the birds he saved, and there were apparently a lot of them. That was the only 'medication' he was allowed to access and it seems to have worked well. All the strengths of h202 use stabilizers and I was unable to understand the relative toxicities of the various chemicals and their concentrations. Douglas himself recommends the 3% as he feels it is sufficient and the extra h202 is not worth the extra money.pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSH202 and CS
I know this has been discussed before, but as I wasn't interested at the time I didn't take much notice. I have bought some H202 35% and it says to keep it in the freezer but I put the pipette thingy in the freezer and noticed it doesn't freeze. Is this correct? And should I keep the bottle in the freezer too. Also, how much would I put in say, a 1ltr jar of CS ? any info appreciated. I gave up with the 3% as all I got was a murky greeny colour so thought the 35% would be better. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH202 weird result
Heck , I dunno...can't hurt, I guess. 85+% is still ionic. Ode At 12:27 PM 9/24/2009 +0100, you wrote: I'll do that this time Ode, but can you tell me if it is really a good idea to use H202? I mean I know that on your site it shows it splitting the silver particles or colloids, but will that make the EIS any more efficacious? I mean, I thought it was the ionic part that was the *most* efficacious? Just wondering if it is worth bothering with, but if it makes the EIS more powerful, then it obviously is. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH202 weird result
The EIS has to have had time to completely stabilize before using H2O2 and the only way to tell it has.is to use H2O2. So, try it on a portion of the batch, first. If THAT reacts and goes murky, wait longer. The murky CS won't hurt you, it just looks nasty. Ode At 06:17 PM 9/23/2009 +0100, you wrote: How do you mean? I think it was running approximately six hours because I forgot it was still set on manual, so was probably a bit strong. I tested it with a TDS meter and it was about 26ppm and then it was about 14ppm after a couple of days. dee On 23 Sep 2009, at 12:20, Ode Coyote wrote: You didn't test the timing in a sample first. Ode At 05:41 PM 9/22/2009 +0100, you wrote: I've made some EIS which is approximately 14ppm and left it two days and then put in 4 drops of H202 3% and it has immediately gone a murky greeny grey! The amount was 500mls and I have done it before, although only using three drops. Can anyone tell me what could have happened? Thanks. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH202 weird result
I'll do that this time Ode, but can you tell me if it is really a good idea to use H202? I mean I know that on your site it shows it splitting the silver particles or colloids, but will that make the EIS any more efficacious? I mean, I thought it was the ionic part that was the *most* efficacious? Just wondering if it is worth bothering with, but if it makes the EIS more powerful, then it obviously is. dee On 24 Sep 2009, at 10:26, Ode Coyote wrote: The EIS has to have had time to completely stabilize before using H2O2 and the only way to tell it has.is to use H2O2. So, try it on a portion of the batch, first. If THAT reacts and goes murky, wait longer. The murky CS won't hurt you, it just looks nasty. Ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH202 weird result
Garnet wrote: Water your aloe vera cactus with it. Aloe has a high silver content and would probably love it. That would add more silver to the pulp? Good idea. I don't have an aloe plant anymore myself, it is one of those things I manage to kill off quickly. I have a real black thumb for succulents..maybe I should try another one. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Just don't water it until it starts to shrivel, then it will replump and be fine. They like to be really dry most of the time because they store the water. Garnet sol wrote: Garnet wrote: Water your aloe vera cactus with it. Aloe has a high silver content and would probably love it. That would add more silver to the pulp? Good idea. I don't have an aloe plant anymore myself, it is one of those things I manage to kill off quickly. I have a real black thumb for succulents..maybe I should try another one. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSH202 weird result
If it's stocked on the store shelf at all I would say it has got additives in it. The amount of additives would be miniscule with the amount consumed in the scheme of things anyway. N. Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:40:46 -0700 From: tita_...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: CSH202 weird result To: silver-list@eskimo.com Swan Hydrogen Peroxide is fit for human consumption according to some who use it. No additives. Melly --- On Tue, 9/22/09, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com Subject: Re: CSH202 weird result To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 6:29 PM Garnet wrote: The stabilizers in the H2O2? I wouldn't think so. I've only ever used 3% H202 from the grocery store, and the murk doesn't happen often. It seems like if it was additives in the H202, it would always go cloudly/murky. It doesn't. But, I've had that murky result when the CS was really strong. I would not have expected it to go murky if it really was only 14 ppm. But remember silver particles do not register on conductance meters, so maybe the CS was a lot stronger than that. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ POP access for Hotmail is here! Click here to find out more http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=802246
Re: CSH202 weird result
You didn't test the timing in a sample first. Ode At 05:41 PM 9/22/2009 +0100, you wrote: I've made some EIS which is approximately 14ppm and left it two days and then put in 4 drops of H202 3% and it has immediately gone a murky greeny grey! The amount was 500mls and I have done it before, although only using three drops. Can anyone tell me what could have happened? Thanks. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH202 weird result
Well actually sol, I *did* have the generator running for about six hours because I had forgotten that I still had it on manual. But when I tested it with the TDS meter it only read 13 so that I took to mean it was approx 26ppm. 2 days later, it read 7 which I took to mean about 14ppm. I think I will dump it and start again, but it is a waste of 500mls of my precious DW. dee On 22 Sep 2009, at 23:29, sol wrote: Garnet wrote: The stabilizers in the H2O2? I wouldn't think so. I've only ever used 3% H202 from the grocery store, and the murk doesn't happen often. It seems like if it was additives in the H202, it would always go cloudly/murky. It doesn't. But, I've had that murky result when the CS was really strong. I would not have expected it to go murky if it really was only 14 ppm. But remember silver particles do not register on conductance meters, so maybe the CS was a lot stronger than that. sol -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH202 weird result
How do you mean? I think it was running approximately six hours because I forgot it was still set on manual, so was probably a bit strong. I tested it with a TDS meter and it was about 26ppm and then it was about 14ppm after a couple of days. dee On 23 Sep 2009, at 12:20, Ode Coyote wrote: You didn't test the timing in a sample first. Ode At 05:41 PM 9/22/2009 +0100, you wrote: I've made some EIS which is approximately 14ppm and left it two days and then put in 4 drops of H202 3% and it has immediately gone a murky greeny grey! The amount was 500mls and I have done it before, although only using three drops. Can anyone tell me what could have happened? Thanks. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH202 weird result
NEVER dump your CS. If you don't want to ingest it (for some whacko reason) use it for the many other uses it has. Chuck 99% of lawyers are giving the rest a bad name. On 9/23/2009 7:31:36 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote: Well actually sol, I *did* have the generator running for about six hours because I had forgotten that I still had it on manual. But when I tested it with the TDS meter it only read 13 so that I took to mean it was approx 26ppm. 2 days later, it read 7 which I took to mean about 14ppm. I think I will dump it and start again, but it is a waste of 500mls of my precious DW. dee On 22 Sep 2009, at 23:29, sol wrote: Garnet wrote: The stabilizers in the H2O2? I wouldn't think so. I've only ever used 3% H202 from the grocery store, and the murk doesn't happen often. It seems like if it was additives in the H202, it would always go cloudly/murky. It doesn't. But, I've had that murky result when the CS was really strong. I would not have expected it to go murky if it really was only 14 ppm. But remember silver particles do not register on conductance meters, so maybe the CS was a lot stronger than that. sol No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.112/2390 - Release Date: 09/23/09 05:52:00
Re: CSH202 weird result
Use it for cleaning around the kitchen, or use it topcially? Let it sit a few more days and add a couple more drops H202? I have thrown out over brewed CS in the past, long past, LOL. But now, I find some way to use it Given how long the gen ran, I'd say you have a highly particulate batch there, The change in the TDS reading is probably from agglomeration as it stabilized, meaning it ended up with even more particles. Particles don't are invisible to metersbut the silver is still in there, hence the cloudy/murky reaction when you added the H202. It also may clear up some on its own if you leave it sit long enough. sol Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Well actually sol, I *did* have the generator running for about six hours because I had forgotten that I still had it on manual. But when I tested it with the TDS meter it only read 13 so that I took to mean it was approx 26ppm. 2 days later, it read 7 which I took to mean about 14ppm. I think I will dump it and start again, but it is a waste of 500mls of my precious DW. dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH202 weird result
13 ppm is the solubility limit of silver oxide. Silver hydroxide converts to silver oxide, and back again, so this sets the limit to how much ionic silver there can be in distilled water to 26 ppm. That means that you reached saturation with the ionic part. Any additional amount added has to either convert to colloid, or settle out. Over time 25 to 50% of the ionic will plate out on the colloidal particles. The silver content remains the same, but a TDS reading will drop accordingly. I would suspect that you had 30 ppm or higher of silver content. Adding H2O2 to this will create a colloid containing lots of silver oxide particles. Marshall Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Well actually sol, I *did* have the generator running for about six hours because I had forgotten that I still had it on manual. But when I tested it with the TDS meter it only read 13 so that I took to mean it was approx 26ppm. 2 days later, it read 7 which I took to mean about 14ppm. I think I will dump it and start again, but it is a waste of 500mls of my precious DW. dee On 22 Sep 2009, at 23:29, sol wrote: Garnet wrote: The stabilizers in the H2O2? I wouldn't think so. I've only ever used 3% H202 from the grocery store, and the murk doesn't happen often. It seems like if it was additives in the H202, it would always go cloudly/murky. It doesn't. But, I've had that murky result when the CS was really strong. I would not have expected it to go murky if it really was only 14 ppm. But remember silver particles do not register on conductance meters, so maybe the CS was a lot stronger than that. sol -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
