Re: CSlanguage

2009-11-06 Thread MaryAnn Helland
Yeah, yeah -- blahh-blahh-blahh.  You're very predictable Malcolm, and tiresome.
MA





From: Malcolm s...@asis.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 1:01:05 AM
Subject: Re: CSlanguage

 ... so I won't discuss it further -- except to say that it's a relief
to me to not have to read her negative-ness on a daily basis. MA

Or: 'I won't discuss it further, except to discuss it further'  And
further, and further . . .

 ... The shame is that she just couldn't convey her opinions without
rudeness and condescension.

And you?  You were both rude and condescending from the get, and I
called you on it then.

On Thu, 2009-11-05 at 13:40 -0800, MaryAnn Helland wrote:
 Well Malcolm, 
  
 You're exactly who I expected to object to my post.  

Yup.  After two days of them, you betcha!

Praise??  exactly??  Tried to??  Once AGAIN??  How many times is
that?  Ah, yes; I remember now from the 'chicken squawk posts', the
long-suffering, patient, but finally driven - forced - to mild
remonstrance MaryAnn.
The words with quotes above are not direct, not honest in any real sense
and neither forthright nor called for in the context.  Perhaps it's just
a natural - if unrecognized - rhetorical talent in your speech?
Perhaps not.

 And once again, you praise Indi for exactly what you tried to
 criticize in my post.  My remarks were direct, honest and forthright.
 Nothing sideways about it.

Please understand I do NOT object to your distaste for Indi or for her
posts and expressed opinions, that is between the two of you.  But if
you can't see the nature and effect of your word usage . . . . .  well,
you can't; or maybe it's just too tempting, and the debbil makes you do
it??

 Got it?

Shore; hey, sauce for the goose is indeed sauce for the gander;  point
for the dark side.  g
  
 MA

How 'bout moving this off topic (OS) or off list, the main question has
been answered more than adequately; the rest is just frosting.
Malcolm
 
 
 
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 From: Malcolm s...@asis.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thu, November 5, 2009 2:01:29 PM
 Subject: Re: CSIndi
 
 Well, MaryAnn,
 
 I think Mark Antony did something obversely similar when he opened his
 oration in the play by Shakespeare: 
 I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him. and proceeded to castigate
 Brutus and the senate for assassinating Caesar on the senate floor.
 
 One thing you could say in favor of Indi's behavior - she was direct,
 honest and forthright in expressing herself; no sideways little digs.
 
 Got it?
 Malcolm
 
 On Thu, 2009-11-05 at 06:13 -0800, MaryAnn Helland wrote:
  She certainly is.  The shame is that she just couldn't convey her
  opinions without rudeness and condescension.  I realize that there
 are
  a couple of people on this list who will object to my opinion on
 this
  topic -- so I won't discuss it further -- except to say that it's a
  relief to me to not have to read her negative-ness on a daily basis.
  MA
  
  
  
 
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  From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Thu, November 5, 2009 3:57:17 AM
  Subject: Re: CSIndi
  
  Oh what a shame, she is a very knowledgeable person.  dee 
  
  On 4 Nov 2009, at 20:16, MaryAnn Helland wrote:
  
   Dee -- Indi voluntarily left the list several months ago -- rather
   than comply with Mike's request to *play nice*.  MA
   
   
   
  
 
  
  
 
 
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Re: CSlanguage

2009-11-06 Thread Alan Jones
Please stop.

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:01 AM, Malcolm s...@asis.com wrote:
  ... so I won't discuss it further -- except to say that it's a relief
 to me to not have to read her negative-ness on a daily basis. MA

 Or: 'I won't discuss it further, except to discuss it further'  And
 further, and further . . .

  ... The shame is that she just couldn't convey her opinions without
 rudeness and condescension.

 And you?  You were both rude and condescending from the get, and I
 called you on it then.

 On Thu, 2009-11-05 at 13:40 -0800, MaryAnn Helland wrote:
 Well Malcolm,

 You're exactly who I expected to object to my post.

 Yup.  After two days of them, you betcha!

 Praise??  exactly??  Tried to??  Once AGAIN??  How many times is
 that?  Ah, yes; I remember now from the 'chicken squawk posts', the
 long-suffering, patient, but finally driven - forced - to mild
 remonstrance MaryAnn.
 The words with quotes above are not direct, not honest in any real sense
 and neither forthright nor called for in the context.  Perhaps it's just
 a natural - if unrecognized - rhetorical talent in your speech?
 Perhaps not.

 And once again, you praise Indi for exactly what you tried to
 criticize in my post.  My remarks were direct, honest and forthright.
 Nothing sideways about it.

 Please understand I do NOT object to your distaste for Indi or for her
 posts and expressed opinions, that is between the two of you.  But if
 you can't see the nature and effect of your word usage . . . . .  well,
 you can't; or maybe it's just too tempting, and the debbil makes you do
 it??

 Got it?

 Shore; hey, sauce for the goose is indeed sauce for the gander;  point
 for the dark side.  g

 MA

 How 'bout moving this off topic (OS) or off list, the main question has
 been answered more than adequately; the rest is just frosting.
 Malcolm



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 From: Malcolm s...@asis.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thu, November 5, 2009 2:01:29 PM
 Subject: Re: CSIndi

 Well, MaryAnn,

 I think Mark Antony did something obversely similar when he opened his
 oration in the play by Shakespeare:
 I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him. and proceeded to castigate
 Brutus and the senate for assassinating Caesar on the senate floor.

 One thing you could say in favor of Indi's behavior - she was direct,
 honest and forthright in expressing herself; no sideways little digs.

 Got it?
 Malcolm

 On Thu, 2009-11-05 at 06:13 -0800, MaryAnn Helland wrote:
  She certainly is.  The shame is that she just couldn't convey her
  opinions without rudeness and condescension.  I realize that there
 are
  a couple of people on this list who will object to my opinion on
 this
  topic -- so I won't discuss it further -- except to say that it's a
  relief to me to not have to read her negative-ness on a daily basis.
  MA
 
 
 
 
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  From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Thu, November 5, 2009 3:57:17 AM
  Subject: Re: CSIndi
 
  Oh what a shame, she is a very knowledgeable person.  dee
 
  On 4 Nov 2009, at 20:16, MaryAnn Helland wrote:
 
   Dee -- Indi voluntarily left the list several months ago -- rather
   than comply with Mike's request to *play nice*.  MA
  
  
  
  
 
 
 


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Re: CSlanguage

2009-11-05 Thread Malcolm
 ... so I won't discuss it further -- except to say that it's a relief
to me to not have to read her negative-ness on a daily basis. MA

Or: 'I won't discuss it further, except to discuss it further'  And
further, and further . . .

 ... The shame is that she just couldn't convey her opinions without
rudeness and condescension.

And you?  You were both rude and condescending from the get, and I
called you on it then.

On Thu, 2009-11-05 at 13:40 -0800, MaryAnn Helland wrote:
 Well Malcolm, 
  
 You're exactly who I expected to object to my post.  

Yup.  After two days of them, you betcha!

Praise??  exactly??  Tried to??  Once AGAIN??  How many times is
that?  Ah, yes; I remember now from the 'chicken squawk posts', the
long-suffering, patient, but finally driven - forced - to mild
remonstrance MaryAnn.
The words with quotes above are not direct, not honest in any real sense
and neither forthright nor called for in the context.  Perhaps it's just
a natural - if unrecognized - rhetorical talent in your speech?
Perhaps not.

 And once again, you praise Indi for exactly what you tried to
 criticize in my post.  My remarks were direct, honest and forthright.
 Nothing sideways about it.

Please understand I do NOT object to your distaste for Indi or for her
posts and expressed opinions, that is between the two of you.  But if
you can't see the nature and effect of your word usage . . . . .  well,
you can't; or maybe it's just too tempting, and the debbil makes you do
it??

 Got it?

Shore; hey, sauce for the goose is indeed sauce for the gander;  point
for the dark side.  g
  
 MA

How 'bout moving this off topic (OS) or off list, the main question has
been answered more than adequately; the rest is just frosting.
Malcolm
 
 
 
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 From: Malcolm s...@asis.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Sent: Thu, November 5, 2009 2:01:29 PM
 Subject: Re: CSIndi
 
 Well, MaryAnn,
 
 I think Mark Antony did something obversely similar when he opened his
 oration in the play by Shakespeare: 
 I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him. and proceeded to castigate
 Brutus and the senate for assassinating Caesar on the senate floor.
 
 One thing you could say in favor of Indi's behavior - she was direct,
 honest and forthright in expressing herself; no sideways little digs.
 
 Got it?
 Malcolm
 
 On Thu, 2009-11-05 at 06:13 -0800, MaryAnn Helland wrote:
  She certainly is.  The shame is that she just couldn't convey her
  opinions without rudeness and condescension.  I realize that there
 are
  a couple of people on this list who will object to my opinion on
 this
  topic -- so I won't discuss it further -- except to say that it's a
  relief to me to not have to read her negative-ness on a daily basis.
  MA
  
  
  
 
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  From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Thu, November 5, 2009 3:57:17 AM
  Subject: Re: CSIndi
  
  Oh what a shame, she is a very knowledgeable person.  dee 
  
  On 4 Nov 2009, at 20:16, MaryAnn Helland wrote:
  
   Dee -- Indi voluntarily left the list several months ago -- rather
   than comply with Mike's request to *play nice*.  MA
   
   
   
  
 
  
  
 
 
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Re: CSLanguage

2006-05-23 Thread Marshall Dudley
English is a very rough language to learn, it's (or is it its) one of the worst.
One of my problems is its ( or is it it's ) inconstant rules about possessive vs
contraction, and when you are suppose to leave the ' out.

Marshall

Marshalee Hallett wrote:

 So, it is inconsistent, not inconsistant?
 Hmm, you learn every day.
 Like collectible is correct while collectable isn`t.
 Stupid language. Give me Spanish any day...It has some problems but it is no
 where near as bad as English.
   Too bad people can`t see that I was trying to be friendly in showing dumb
 debbie the usage of the apostrophe, (not spelling per se), but everyone,
 except those who emailed me directly, applauding my effort, seem to think I
 was angry or something.
 I wasn`t until she called me Anal.
 Maybe I am, my anus works just fine.
So anyway, my favorite race horse will die. I`m in deep depression now,
 after that and other things that happened yesterday. I`m hard put to not go
 just a block away and stand in front of one of the big coal trains that go
 by like bats out of hell...
 Only the Pug dogs keep me here.At least something needs me. My children sure
 don`t.
 Maybe we`ll get smacked good with a comet chunk next week, and then it will
 all be over, one can only hope.
 Mike you can dump me off the List if you wish, I don`t care any more.
 I don`t care about anything any more.
 Where is that damn train?
 Marshalee

  ...book I'm currently reading is full of inconsistancies,
 
  That's inconsistencies...

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Re: CSLanguage

2006-05-23 Thread Ode Coyote

At 05:34 PM 5/22/2006 -0700, you wrote:


I believe I owe this one to Chuck, below.  Thanks for the many laughs.  I
think about them as I swish my CS.

Euro English:

The European commission has just announced an agreement that English will
be the official language of European Community (EU) rather than German (the
other possibility)





 Zer vil be no mor trubls of
difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi to understand ech ozer.

ZE DREM VIL FINALI KUM TRU!!!



**  Gee, that looks and sounds a lot like German!

Ode



Nancy

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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSLanguage

Heh...
Hoisted on her own petard!

Sweet...

Chuck

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Re: CSLanguage

2006-05-22 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
Lovely!  Thanks so much.  And yes,  I have a strange mind because I 
could easily read it all.


JBB


On Sunday, May 21, 2006, at 22:49 Asia/Tokyo, Carol Ann wrote:


This is interesting. :)
 
  fi yuo cna raed tihs, yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid too
  Cna yuo raed tihs? Olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can.

  i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was 
rdanieg. The
  phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at 
Cmabrigde
  Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod 
are, the
  olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the 
rghit
  pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it 
whotuit a

  pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by
  istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas 
tghuhot

  slpeling was ipmorantt! if you can raed tihs forwrad it.
 
 ONLY FORWARD IF YOU CAN READ THIS


Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote:

It might be worthwhile to look into the interesting World Language
Process (worldlanguageprocess.com) for information about the serious
problems of English orthography.

Just as one example, studies show that in comparison to other European
children, English children are far behind in reading skills. The
reason is the absurdly irregular orthography of English. Scholars and
writers have meticulously documented and discussed these problems for
several centuries, but we have yet to see a widely accepted solution.
Some day we will.

I also prize good grammar and spelling, but the fact is that our
language needs improvement. Some folks are working toward that end.
Errors by supposedly professional journalists, are, of course,
unacceptable, and trivial errors on a list like this can be a source
of frustration for some readers. However, taking time out to learn
more about the orthography problems might be more rewarding and
productive than continuing the vituperative exchange that prompted this
message.

JBB


On Sunday, May 21, 2006, at 15:19 Asia/Tokyo, Marshalee Hallett wrote:

 I saw three misspellings on
 CNN just today,


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Re: CSlanguage .. joking with words

2006-05-22 Thread Dan Nave
I can read that paragraph just fine, if I go fast enough.  

Interestingly, this is apparently what happened with the
Nicotine/Nitroglycerine thing for me.  Having the word Nicotine in my
mind when I read the article from the Dr. that Mike D. posted, I read
Nicotine instead of Nitroglycerine!  Or at least I remembered Nicotine. 
When someone pointed it out I went back and read it and there it was,
clear as day.

Dan



 Carol Ann wrote: 
 This is interesting. :) 
 
 fi yuo cna raed tihs, yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid too 
 Cna yuo raed tihs? Olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can. 
 etc etc etc 
 
 and: It might be worthwhile to look into the interesting World
Language 
 Process (worldlanguageprocess.com) 
 
 As a teacher of languages, and as an author, I am keenly interested
in the 
 (mis)spelling of, and joking with words, and I thank you for the URL.

 Whenever I have a little time to spare, I shall surely look into the
URL 
 'worldlanguages'. 
 
 Arrr .. I could indeed read the stuff .. and I am not English -
speaking by 
 birth! I am Dutch 
 .. hmmm does that mean I am over - intelligent .. or am I just trying
to see 
 the solution, and not the problem? 
 
 Take Care 
 
 Faith .. teacher of English and Dutch .. IN Spanish! 
 
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Re: CSLanguage

2006-05-22 Thread Marmar845
In a message dated 5/21/2006 2:35:09 PM Central Standard Time, 
utahpug...@izikoo.com writes:
So anyway, my favorite race horse will die. I`m in deep depression now,
Maybe not Marshalee --  buck up.  Horses die every day -- even ones that we 
own and love.  That's life and isn't worth even a shallow depression.  Well -- 
maybe a small shallow depression.  He was glorious for a brief, shining moment 
-- and that's more than most horses ever know.  I'm just hoping that whatever 
the outcome, he doesn't suffer much pain.  I *get it* about the Pugs -- mine 
is an adorable Peke-A-Poo.  Now, when she goes -- THAT will be worth 
depression.  MA  


Re: CSLanguage

2006-05-22 Thread Marmar845
In a message dated 5/22/2006 1:36:09 AM Central Standard Time, 
jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp writes:
And yes,  I have a strange mind because I 
could easily read it all.
I could too.  And I was surprised that only 55 out of 100 supposedly could.  
I've read somewhere that as long as all of the correct letters are in a word, 
and that the first and last letter are in the correct place, that most people 
can read it just fine regardless of how jumbled the rest of the letters are.   
  MA (shrugging shoulders)


Re: CSlanguage .. joking with words

2006-05-22 Thread Carol Ann
Ok.  So, enough with the wars on spelling?  :)
N th diry ov lfe..tehy an't imptnt

Dan Nave dn...@mn.nilfisk-advance.com wrote: I can read that paragraph just 
fine, if I go fast enough.  

Interestingly, this is apparently what happened with the
Nicotine/Nitroglycerine thing for me.  Having the word Nicotine in my
mind when I read the article from the Dr. that Mike D. posted, I read
Nicotine instead of Nitroglycerine!  Or at least I remembered Nicotine. 
When someone pointed it out I went back and read it and there it was,
clear as day.

Dan



 Carol Ann wrote: 
 This is interesting. :) 
 
 fi yuo cna raed tihs, yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid too 
 Cna yuo raed tihs? Olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can. 
 etc etc etc 
 
 and: It might be worthwhile to look into the interesting World
Language 
 Process (worldlanguageprocess.com) 
 
 As a teacher of languages, and as an author, I am keenly interested
in the 
 (mis)spelling of, and joking with words, and I thank you for the URL.

 Whenever I have a little time to spare, I shall surely look into the
URL 
 'worldlanguages'. 
 
 Arrr .. I could indeed read the stuff .. and I am not English -
speaking by 
 birth! I am Dutch 
 .. hmmm does that mean I am over - intelligent .. or am I just trying
to see 
 the solution, and not the problem? 
 
 Take Care 
 
 Faith .. teacher of English and Dutch .. IN Spanish! 
 
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Re: CSLanguage

2006-05-22 Thread Tad Winiecki
I believe I owe this one to Chuck, below.  Thanks for the many laughs.  I
think about them as I swish my CS.

Euro English:

The European commission has just announced an agreement that English will
be the official language of European Community (EU) rather than German (the
other possibility). As part of the negotiations, Her Majesty's Government
conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement, and has
accepted a 5-year phase-in of new rules that would apply to the language
and reclassify it as EuroEnglish. The agreed plan is as follows:

In year 1, the soft 'c' would be replaced by 's'. Sertainly, this will make
the sivil servants jump with joy. The hard 'c' will be replased by 'k'.
This should klear up konfusion and keyboards kan now have one less letter.
There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year when the
troublesome 'ph' is replased by 'f'. This will reduse 'fotograf' by 20%. In
the 3rd year, publik akseptance of the new spelling kan be expekted to
reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible. Governments
will enkourage the removal of double letters, which have always ben a
deterent to akurate speling. Also al wil agre that the horible mes of the
silent 'e's in the language is disgrasful, and they should eliminat them.
By year 4, peopl wil be reseptiv to lingwistik korektions such as replasing
'th' with 'z' and 'w' with 'v' (saving mor keyboard spas). During ze fifz
year, ze unesesary 'o' kan be dropd from vords kontaining 'ou' and similar
changes vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations of leters. After zis fifz
year, ve vil hav a reli sensibil riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubls of
difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi to understand ech ozer.

ZE DREM VIL FINALI KUM TRU!!!

Nancy

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Subject: RE: CSLanguage

Heh...
Hoisted on her own petard!

Sweet...

Chuck

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Re: CSLanguage

2006-05-22 Thread cking001
Nope, not me!
I appreciate the thought though.

Chuck
You are here and this is the highlight of your day


I believe I owe this one to Chuck, below.  Thanks for the many laughs.  I
think about them as I swish my CS.

Euro English:

The European commission has just announced an agreement that English will
be the official language of European Community (EU) rather than German (the
other possibility).


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Re: CSLanguage

2006-05-22 Thread Al Davis

  Leticia,

  Something to  take your mind off of orders. :)






 fi yuo cna raed tihs, yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid too
 Cna yuo raed tihs? Olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can.

 i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was
 rdanieg. The
 phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at
 Cmabrigde
 Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod
 are, the
 olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the
 rghit
 pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it
 whotuit a
 pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by
 istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas
 tghuhot
 slpeling was ipmorantt! if you can raed tihs forwrad it.

  ONLY FORWARD IF YOU CAN READ THIS




  Al


CSFwd: CSLanguage

2006-05-22 Thread Al Davis

Oops! Sorry about that..

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From: Al Davis adav...@gmail.com
Date: May 22, 2006 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: CSLanguage
To: silver-list@eskimo.com


  Leticia,

  Something to  take your mind off of orders. :)






 fi yuo cna raed tihs, yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid too
 Cna yuo raed tihs? Olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can.

 i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was
 rdanieg. The
 phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at
 Cmabrigde
 Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod
 are, the
 olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the
 rghit
 pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it
 whotuit a
 pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by
 istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas
 tghuhot
 slpeling was ipmorantt! if you can raed tihs forwrad it.

  ONLY FORWARD IF YOU CAN READ THIS




  Al


Re: CSLanguage

2006-05-21 Thread Malcolm Stebbins
Well, some scholars think that language is a matter of correct rules; 
sorry, the rules are deduced from the material, though occasionally there 
are squabbles.  Err, scholarly debate?
One of the great losses to our knowledge of the mind has been the 
'disappearing' of many many languages totally  unrelated to the main 
families of language we are familiar with.  The ideational patterns that 
inform language constructs are by no means fixed mental arrangements any 
more than they are completely arbitrary, they seem to inhabit some middle 
ground, a confusion of forms - or perhaps forms of confusion?

Further, present deponent saith not.

At 06:49 AM 5/21/06 -0700, you wrote:


This is interesting. :)

  fi yuo cna raed tihs, yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid too
  Cna yuo raed tihs? Olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can.

  i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The
  phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde
  Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the
  olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit
  pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a
  pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by
  istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot
  slpeling was ipmorantt! if you can raed tihs forwrad it.

 ONLY FORWARD IF YOU CAN READ THIS


Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote:

It might be worthwhile to look into the interesting World Language
Process (worldlanguageprocess.com) for information about the serious
problems of English orthography.

Just as one example, studies show that in comparison to other European
children, English children are far behind in reading skills. The
reason is the absurdly irregular orthography of English. Scholars and
writers have meticulously documented and discussed these problems for
several centuries, but we have yet to see a widely accepted solution.
Some day we will.

I also prize good grammar and spelling, but the fact is that our
language needs improvement. Some folks are working toward that end.
Errors by supposedly professional journalists, are, of course,
unacceptable, and trivial errors on a list like this can be a source
of frustration for some readers. However, taking time out to learn
more about the orthography problems might be more rewarding and
productive than continuing the vituperative exchange that prompted this
message.

JBB


On Sunday, May 21, 2006, at 15:19 Asia/Tokyo, Marshalee Hallett wrote:

 I saw three misspellings on
 CNN just today,


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CSLanguage

2006-05-21 Thread Marshalee Hallett
  So, you mean you appreciate the dumbing down of the world??
  I wouldn`t call ignorance unique, I`d call it appalling.
  It is grating to read, whether in books, or emails, or even crawls across
the TV screen, the innumerable
  misspellings and misusages of the language. I saw three misspellings on
CNN just today, and another
  one on the local news, then the historical fiction book I`m currently
reading is full of inconsistancies, and so emails to the Silverlist that are
grammatically incorrect are the last straw, I suppose.
  Can`t we learn to do better? Does anyone really care anymore?
  Marshalee
  (Sorry Mike, I`m in perimenopause... That is all from me.)


  My,

  I'm rather amazed to watch decent people denigrating each other's
uniqueness. And being so petty as to take someone to task who might not
write/speak as well as another.  Where is the compassionate discernment
here.  This isn't the list I have known for so many years...where is this
coming from?

  Not a fun exchange to read.

  FWIW,

  Craig




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Re: CSLanguage

2006-05-21 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
It might be worthwhile to look into the interesting World Language 
Process (worldlanguageprocess.com)  for information about the serious 
problems of English orthography.


Just as one example, studies show that in comparison to other European 
children, English children are far behind in reading skills.   The 
reason is the absurdly irregular orthography of English.  Scholars and 
writers have meticulously documented and discussed these problems for 
several centuries, but we have yet to see a widely accepted solution.   
Some day we will.


I also prize good grammar and spelling, but the fact is that our 
language needs improvement.  Some folks are working toward that end.   
Errors by supposedly professional journalists, are, of course, 
unacceptable,  and trivial errors on a list like this can be a source 
of frustration for some readers.However, taking time out to learn 
more about the orthography problems might be more rewarding and 
productive than continuing the vituperative exchange that prompted this 
message.


JBB


On Sunday, May 21, 2006, at 15:19 Asia/Tokyo, Marshalee Hallett wrote:


 I saw three misspellings on
CNN just today,



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RE: CSLanguage

2006-05-21 Thread Terry
...book I'm currently reading is full of inconsistancies,

That's inconsistencies...

-Original Message-
From: Marshalee Hallett [mailto:utahpug...@izikoo.com] 
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 11:19 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSLanguage


  So, you mean you appreciate the dumbing down of the world??
  I wouldn`t call ignorance unique, I`d call it appalling.
  It is grating to read, whether in books, or emails, or even crawls across
the TV screen, the innumerable
  misspellings and misusages of the language. I saw three misspellings on
CNN just today, and another
  one on the local news, then the historical fiction book I`m currently
reading is full of inconsistancies, and so emails to the Silverlist that are
grammatically incorrect are the last straw, I suppose.
  Can`t we learn to do better? Does anyone really care anymore?
  Marshalee
  (Sorry Mike, I`m in perimenopause... That is all from me.)


  My,

  I'm rather amazed to watch decent people denigrating each other's
uniqueness. And being so petty as to take someone to task who might not
write/speak as well as another.  Where is the compassionate discernment
here.  This isn't the list I have known for so many years...where is this
coming from?

  Not a fun exchange to read.

  FWIW,

  Craig




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RE: CSLanguage

2006-05-21 Thread cking001

Heh...
Hoisted on her own petard!

Sweet...

Chuck

_The worst thing about censorship is CENSORED


...book I'm currently reading is full of inconsistancies,

That's inconsistencies...

-Original Message-
From: Marshalee Hallett [mailto:utahpug...@izikoo.com] 
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 11:19 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSLanguage


  So, you mean you appreciate the dumbing down of the world??
  I wouldn`t call ignorance unique, I`d call it appalling.
  It is grating to read, whether in books, or emails, or even crawls across
the TV screen, the innumerable


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RE: CSLanguage

2006-05-21 Thread Darn itsme

I was thinking the same thing.

Debbie



From: cking...@nycap.rr.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSLanguage
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 07:50:34 -0400


Heh...
Hoisted on her own petard!

Sweet...

Chuck

_The worst thing about censorship is CENSORED


...book I'm currently reading is full of inconsistancies,

That's inconsistencies...

-Original Message-
From: Marshalee Hallett [mailto:utahpug...@izikoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 11:19 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSLanguage


  So, you mean you appreciate the dumbing down of the world??
  I wouldn`t call ignorance unique, I`d call it appalling.
  It is grating to read, whether in books, or emails, or even crawls 
across

the TV screen, the innumerable


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Re: CSLanguage

2006-05-21 Thread Carol Ann
This is interesting. :)
 
   fi yuo cna raed tihs, yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid too
   Cna yuo raed tihs? Olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can.
  
   i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The
   phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde
   Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the
   olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit
   pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a
   pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by
   istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot
   slpeling was ipmorantt! if you can raed tihs forwrad it.
 
   ONLY FORWARD IF YOU CAN READ THIS


Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote: It might be 
worthwhile to look into the interesting World Language 
Process (worldlanguageprocess.com)  for information about the serious 
problems of English orthography.

Just as one example, studies show that in comparison to other European 
children, English children are far behind in reading skills.   The 
reason is the absurdly irregular orthography of English.  Scholars and 
writers have meticulously documented and discussed these problems for 
several centuries, but we have yet to see a widely accepted solution.   
Some day we will.

I also prize good grammar and spelling, but the fact is that our 
language needs improvement.  Some folks are working toward that end.   
Errors by supposedly professional journalists, are, of course, 
unacceptable,  and trivial errors on a list like this can be a source 
of frustration for some readers.However, taking time out to learn 
more about the orthography problems might be more rewarding and 
productive than continuing the vituperative exchange that prompted this 
message.

JBB


On Sunday, May 21, 2006, at 15:19 Asia/Tokyo, Marshalee Hallett wrote:

  I saw three misspellings on
 CNN just today,


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CSlanguage

2006-05-21 Thread Betty Shelly
Mike, don't want to add fuel to the fire, but in two very recent posts, 
Marshalee has misspelled words and this from a self-professed grammar cop?  
Today I read consistencies spelled consistancies and yesterday she spelled 
Thoroughbred as Throughbred.  A bit of you spot it you got it syndrom at work 
here.  I really enjoy everyone's unique contributions to the list, but please 
Marshalee, don't point fingers at others.  Let's all maintain the spirit of the 
list here and not make personal attacks on others for reasons that have 
absolutely nothing to do with cs.

Re: CSLanguage

2006-05-21 Thread Faith Saint Francis

Oi loik deez kaind a yokes with lettus mo' 'n jest tulni'n alound dee lettus
Faith (winkin' an i)



From: Carol Ann saffiresk...@yahoo.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSLanguage
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 06:49:29 -0700 (PDT)

This is interesting. :)

   fi yuo cna raed tihs, yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid too
   Cna yuo raed tihs? Olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can.

   i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. 
The
   phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at 
Cmabrigde
   Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, 
the

   olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit
   pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a
   pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by
   istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot
   slpeling was ipmorantt! if you can raed tihs forwrad it.

   ONLY FORWARD IF YOU CAN READ THIS


Jonathan B. Britten jbrit...@cc.nakamura-u.ac.jp wrote: It might be 
worthwhile to look into the interesting World Language

Process (worldlanguageprocess.com)  for information about the serious
problems of English orthography.

Just as one example, studies show that in comparison to other European
children, English children are far behind in reading skills.   The
reason is the absurdly irregular orthography of English.  Scholars and
writers have meticulously documented and discussed these problems for
several centuries, but we have yet to see a widely accepted solution.
Some day we will.

I also prize good grammar and spelling, but the fact is that our
language needs improvement.  Some folks are working toward that end.
Errors by supposedly professional journalists, are, of course,
unacceptable,  and trivial errors on a list like this can be a source
of frustration for some readers.However, taking time out to learn
more about the orthography problems might be more rewarding and
productive than continuing the vituperative exchange that prompted this
message.

JBB


On Sunday, May 21, 2006, at 15:19 Asia/Tokyo, Marshalee Hallett wrote:

  I saw three misspellings on
 CNN just today,


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CSlanguage .. joking with words

2006-05-21 Thread Faith Saint Francis

Carol Ann wrote:
This is interesting. :)

 fi yuo cna raed tihs, yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid too
 Cna yuo raed tihs? Olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can.
etc etc etc

and: It might be worthwhile to look into the interesting World Language
Process (worldlanguageprocess.com)

As a teacher of languages, and as an author, I am keenly interested in the 
(mis)spelling of, and joking with words, and I thank you for the URL. 
Whenever I have a little time to spare, I shall surely look into the URL 
'worldlanguages'.


Arrr .. I could indeed read the stuff .. and I am not English - speaking by 
birth! I am Dutch
.. hmmm does that mean I am over - intelligent .. or am I just trying to see 
the solution, and not the problem?


Take Care

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Re: CSlanguage .. joking with words

2006-05-21 Thread Carol Ann
Faith, that you could easily understand the misspelled words might just mean  
just that you have a 1000 mega herz pentium proccessor between your ears.  :)

Faith Saint Francis faithstfran...@hotmail.com wrote: Carol Ann wrote:
This is interesting. :)

  fi yuo cna raed tihs, yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid too
  Cna yuo raed tihs? Olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can.
etc etc etc

and: It might be worthwhile to look into the interesting World Language
Process (worldlanguageprocess.com)

As a teacher of languages, and as an author, I am keenly interested in the 
(mis)spelling of, and joking with words, and I thank you for the URL. 
Whenever I have a little time to spare, I shall surely look into the URL 
'worldlanguages'.

Arrr .. I could indeed read the stuff .. and I am not English - speaking by 
birth! I am Dutch
.. hmmm does that mean I am over - intelligent .. or am I just trying to see 
the solution, and not the problem?

Take Care

Faith .. teacher of English and Dutch .. IN Spanish!

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Re: CSLanguage

2006-05-21 Thread Carol Ann
goplopadop yopou enopjopoyopedop tophope fopnopunop. ;)

Faith Saint Francis faithstfran...@hotmail.com wrote: Oi loik deez kaind a 
yokes with lettus mo' 'n jest tulni'n alound dee lettus
Faith (winkin' an i)


From: Carol Ann 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSLanguage
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 06:49:29 -0700 (PDT)

This is interesting. :)

fi yuo cna raed tihs, yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid too
Cna yuo raed tihs? Olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can.

i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. 
The
phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at 
Cmabrigde
Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, 
the
olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit
pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a
pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by
istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot
slpeling was ipmorantt! if you can raed tihs forwrad it.

ONLY FORWARD IF YOU CAN READ THIS


Jonathan B. Britten  wrote: It might be 
worthwhile to look into the interesting World Language
Process (worldlanguageprocess.com)  for information about the serious
problems of English orthography.

Just as one example, studies show that in comparison to other European
children, English children are far behind in reading skills.   The
reason is the absurdly irregular orthography of English.  Scholars and
writers have meticulously documented and discussed these problems for
several centuries, but we have yet to see a widely accepted solution.
Some day we will.

I also prize good grammar and spelling, but the fact is that our
language needs improvement.  Some folks are working toward that end.
Errors by supposedly professional journalists, are, of course,
unacceptable,  and trivial errors on a list like this can be a source
of frustration for some readers.However, taking time out to learn
more about the orthography problems might be more rewarding and
productive than continuing the vituperative exchange that prompted this
message.

JBB


On Sunday, May 21, 2006, at 15:19 Asia/Tokyo, Marshalee Hallett wrote:

   I saw three misspellings on
  CNN just today,


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Re: CSlanguage .. joking with words

2006-05-21 Thread debbiegerard99

Faith I have been chatting back and forth with Trudy who is on this list she is 
Dutch and lives in Holland, ...debbie
-- Original message -- 
From: Faith Saint Francis faithstfran...@hotmail.com 

 Carol Ann wrote: 
 This is interesting. :) 
 
 fi yuo cna raed tihs, yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid too 
 Cna yuo raed tihs? Olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can. 
 etc etc etc 
 
 and: It might be worthwhile to look into the interesting World Language 
 Process (worldlanguageprocess.com) 
 
 As a teacher of languages, and as an author, I am keenly interested in the 
 (mis)spelling of, and joking with words, and I thank you for the URL. 
 Whenever I have a little time to spare, I shall surely look into the URL 
 'worldlanguages'. 
 
 Arrr .. I could indeed read the stuff .. and I am not English - speaking by 
 birth! I am Dutch 
 .. hmmm does that mean I am over - intelligent .. or am I just trying to see 
 the solution, and not the problem? 
 
 Take Care 
 
 Faith .. teacher of English and Dutch .. IN Spanish! 
 
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Re: CSLanguage

2006-05-21 Thread Marshalee Hallett

So, it is inconsistent, not inconsistant?
Hmm, you learn every day.
Like collectible is correct while collectable isn`t.
Stupid language. Give me Spanish any day...It has some problems but it is no
where near as bad as English.
  Too bad people can`t see that I was trying to be friendly in showing dumb
debbie the usage of the apostrophe, (not spelling per se), but everyone,
except those who emailed me directly, applauding my effort, seem to think I
was angry or something.
I wasn`t until she called me Anal.
Maybe I am, my anus works just fine.
   So anyway, my favorite race horse will die. I`m in deep depression now,
after that and other things that happened yesterday. I`m hard put to not go
just a block away and stand in front of one of the big coal trains that go
by like bats out of hell...
Only the Pug dogs keep me here.At least something needs me. My children sure
don`t.
Maybe we`ll get smacked good with a comet chunk next week, and then it will
all be over, one can only hope.
Mike you can dump me off the List if you wish, I don`t care any more.
I don`t care about anything any more.
Where is that damn train?
Marshalee




 ...book I'm currently reading is full of inconsistancies,

 That's inconsistencies...



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Re: CSLanguage

2006-05-21 Thread epatai

someone's a little bitter.. (Grin)



From: Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@izikoo.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSLanguage
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 13:34:36 -0600


So, it is inconsistent, not inconsistant?
Hmm, you learn every day.
Like collectible is correct while collectable isn`t.
Stupid language. Give me Spanish any day...It has some problems but it is 
no

where near as bad as English.
  Too bad people can`t see that I was trying to be friendly in showing 
dumb

debbie the usage of the apostrophe, (not spelling per se), but everyone,
except those who emailed me directly, applauding my effort, seem to think I
was angry or something.
I wasn`t until she called me Anal.
Maybe I am, my anus works just fine.
   So anyway, my favorite race horse will die. I`m in deep depression now,
after that and other things that happened yesterday. I`m hard put to not go
just a block away and stand in front of one of the big coal trains that go
by like bats out of hell...
Only the Pug dogs keep me here.At least something needs me. My children 
sure

don`t.
Maybe we`ll get smacked good with a comet chunk next week, and then it will
all be over, one can only hope.
Mike you can dump me off the List if you wish, I don`t care any more.
I don`t care about anything any more.
Where is that damn train?
Marshalee




 ...book I'm currently reading is full of inconsistancies,

 That's inconsistencies...



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Re: CSLanguage

2006-05-21 Thread William Missett

What goes around comes around.

- Original Message - 
From: epa...@sympatico.ca

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: CSLanguage



someone's a little bitter.. (Grin)



From: Marshalee Hallett utahpug...@izikoo.com
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSLanguage
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 13:34:36 -0600


So, it is inconsistent, not inconsistant?
Hmm, you learn every day.
Like collectible is correct while collectable isn`t.
Stupid language. Give me Spanish any day...It has some problems but it is 
no

where near as bad as English.
  Too bad people can`t see that I was trying to be friendly in showing 
dumb

debbie the usage of the apostrophe, (not spelling per se), but everyone,
except those who emailed me directly, applauding my effort, seem to think 
I

was angry or something.
I wasn`t until she called me Anal.
Maybe I am, my anus works just fine.
   So anyway, my favorite race horse will die. I`m in deep depression 
now,
after that and other things that happened yesterday. I`m hard put to not 
go

just a block away and stand in front of one of the big coal trains that go
by like bats out of hell...
Only the Pug dogs keep me here.At least something needs me. My children 
sure

don`t.
Maybe we`ll get smacked good with a comet chunk next week, and then it 
will

all be over, one can only hope.
Mike you can dump me off the List if you wish, I don`t care any more.
I don`t care about anything any more.
Where is that damn train?
Marshalee




 ...book I'm currently reading is full of inconsistancies,

 That's inconsistencies...



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CSLanguage and terminology, was Re: CSTime for closing arguments, perhaps?

2005-03-29 Thread sol
   A lot of this discussion has been way above me, but I have still 
learned from it.
While one can't give oneself a complete scientific/technical education 
overnight, quite a bit of the discussion back and forth is  
understandable, given the use of a dictionary. 


sol

Max Sanders wrote:


As opposed to self induced hypno trance psycho
consiratorial manifesto doctrine anti-doctrine trash
that is EASY reading with no thought accepted, I for
one like the on topic (and interesting off topic too)
tech talk.

Would rather risk learning something.  Matter of fact
I still enjoy learning things.  So I say lay it
on...and perhaps an occassional explanatory summary
would be nice.  It was the original and still best use
of the net.  This site is a good example of such.
 

 




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