Re: CSStrange Messages
I suspect it is Bitcoin. http://money.cnn.com/infographic/technology/what-is-bitcoin/ Ron On 3/5/2015 5:32 PM, Rebaudo Amadeus wrote: I every, day, have been receiving Many pages of what looks as Bicoin addresses that goes nowhere. Can anybody explain what is this for? Thanks in advance. Peter R -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
CSStrange Messages
I every, day, have been receiving Many pages of what looks as Bicoin addresses that goes nowhere. Can anybody explain what is this for? Thanks in advance. Peter R -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSstrange
I just sent a message to the list and it came back! dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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same thing just happened to me as well!! On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.orgwrote: I just sent a message to the list and it came back! dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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It's been going on since last night. Annie If we could sell our experiences for what they cost us, we'd all be millionaires. Abigail Van Buren Golden Aldi wrote: same thing just happened to me as well!! On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org mailto:d...@deetroy.org wrote: I just sent a message to the list and it came back! dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org http://silverlist.org/ To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Thanks Marshall, I will investigate further. dee On 9 Nov 2009, at 21:00, Marshall Dudley wrote: Most likely there are a bunch of very small bubbles in the water. Let it sit a while and try again. It should have no tyndall. Marshall Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: just thought I'd report a strange occurrence i.e. I used my lazer pen on a jar of DW I just made, and it had the tyndall effect! That is, it had a strong red line across it. I thought this only happened *after* the silver was in it? dee -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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The K2 would is an electromagnetic field meter, it measures from 20 to 20,000 Hz. Marshall Clayton Family wrote: I have seen gauss meters, and there is a simple one in my multi meter. Does a K2 measure gauss, or hertz? My multimeter makes a cute little noise when it gets near the old knob and tube wiring, so you can tell there is a field that extends more than a foot. It does not have any regular reading for it though, just a noise. I have seen gauss meters that have a numerical readout. Kathryn On Nov 9, 2009, at 3:14 PM, Marshall Dudley wrote: Anyone sensitive to EMF radiation should invest in a K2 meter. Track down and fix or shield anything giving off high EMF. These meters are great for this, they aren't just used for ghost hunting. Marshall Clayton Family wrote: How about a hat made of foil? Seriously. There are fabrics made that screen EM frequencies, and they are made with silver threads in with the cotton or whatever. The military use them for privacy (Em fields are also cell phones and radios) and who knows what else. But they are reported to also work for this kind of thing. I have an OTT light in my kitchen, and the ends of the tubes are wrapped with lead foil to prevent the nasty type of frequencies from leaking out the ends. Someone else suggested aluminum foil might work the same way, and it is worth a try. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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My boyfriend takes magnesium for restless leg and takes well over 800 mg, often double that. Brazil nuts are a very high food source. 4 to 8 nuts would equal 600 to 800 mg. Thora -Original Message- From: Tony Moody [mailto:a...@new.co.za] Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 11:23 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSStrange question Hi Debbie, I've not seen an upper limit. But I haven't been looking for an upper limit because I feel that I'm chronically borderline deficient anyway. Mg seems to be the one thing that will haul me back from grumps, confusion and depression. I take a Ca+ Mg powder morning and evening and let them sort themselves out inside. Somewhere i read that it is better to take Ca in the late afternoon or early evening and to take Mg early in the morning. Then also read that Ca needs some Mg and that Mg needs a bit of Ca to be readily absorbed. You have had some wise replies. your running out of energy could come from anywhere. I used to get Sunday Sickness. I'd go like a Boeing, sorta, during the week and collapse over the weekend. Long afterwards figured that Sunday Sickness was probably due to relaxing: release of tension somehow released toxins which created a mini Herx; headache, nausea, lassitude. If only I'd known then to relax, drink more water etc Mg Dosage (min) is anyway tricky thing to establish exactly, because recommended dosage figures are usually in elemental Mg and the packages are in Magnesium Carbonate or whatever. ( I take guess that elemental Mg is about 1/2 of the actual compound ; unless it is stated. ) Also we need relatively more as we age. and absorbtion and requirements depend on other factors like Vit D consumption The RDA is 350mg per day. Krispin says 500mg per day as minimum. I googled magnesium safe dose and first hit was this site: http://www.krispin.com/magnes.html Recommended Dietary Allowance To compensate for deficiencies and/or losses the new RDA is expected to be 500 mg. per day. My Krispin-RDA is a total of 500-700 mg magnesium daily. Determination of optimal amounts must take into consideration both body size and activity level. Magnesium is a key component of the ATP cycle in the cell which produces all energy. Formula to Calculate Magnesium Daily Requirement- 5 to 10 milligrams per day per kilo of ideal body weight or 2.5 to 4.5 milligrams per day per pound of ideal body weight. Example: 70 kilos or 150 pounds= 350 mg. to 700 mg. daily. (Do not use these calculations for children. The requirements for children are calculated differently. Please consult with your health care professional for more information.) If one or more deficiency or loss factors are a consideration or you have any of the conditions associated with low magnesium use the higher number- you take diuretics, including potassium sparing diuretics you are an athlete in training you are diabetic you have hypertension you are post surgical you are under large amounts of stress you consume large amounts of carbohydrates you are repairing damaged tissue as in arthritis the weather is very hot, you perspire profusely you have any of the conditions listed above you are dieting with/without medications you are experiencing chronic pain you have heart disease you have high cholesterol or triglycerides hth, got to go, OK, Tony On 8 Nov 2009 at 7:00, Deborah Gerard wrote about : Subject : Re: CSStrange question does anyone know what the safe limit is for Mg? From: Tony Moody a...@new.co.za To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 12:20:56 AM Subject: Re: CSStrange question Hi Debbie, You could be running out of Mg (or something else) during the course of the shift. OK, tony On 6 Nov 2009 at 19:10, Deborah Gerard wrote about : Subject : Re: CSStrange question Thanks for your reply..I take 6-800mg's of Magnesium with calcium when I go to bed at night and in the morning I spray my inner arms with Mg oil before I go to work...wonder what gives...debbie From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 5:01:41 PM Subject: Re: CSStrange question Muscle spasms can be a symptoms of Magnesium deficiency. Try taking Magnesium, an easy way is to use Milk of Magnesia, small amounts will be absorbed if you are deficient and not cause the laxative effect. Spread it out over the day or use at the end of the day. MOM is rapidly absorbed. There are many food sources of Mg like almonds, cashews, peanuts, dark leafy greens, dark chocolate. There are topical Mg Oils, that are not really oils, but concentrated sea water. They are costly but they can be applied topically to the area. Best way to get Mg is in your food. At the end of the day your muscles may be fatigued and more prone
Re: CSstrange
Most likely there are a bunch of very small bubbles in the water. Let it sit a while and try again. It should have no tyndall. Marshall Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: just thought I'd report a strange occurrence i.e. I used my lazer pen on a jar of DW I just made, and it had the tyndall effect! That is, it had a strong red line across it. I thought this only happened *after* the silver was in it? dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Anyone sensitive to EMF radiation should invest in a K2 meter. Track down and fix or shield anything giving off high EMF. These meters are great for this, they aren't just used for ghost hunting. Marshall Clayton Family wrote: How about a hat made of foil? Seriously. There are fabrics made that screen EM frequencies, and they are made with silver threads in with the cotton or whatever. The military use them for privacy (Em fields are also cell phones and radios) and who knows what else. But they are reported to also work for this kind of thing. I have an OTT light in my kitchen, and the ends of the tubes are wrapped with lead foil to prevent the nasty type of frequencies from leaking out the ends. Someone else suggested aluminum foil might work the same way, and it is worth a try. If you did a test run with some kitchen foil to shield your head/neck area just to see if it would work, then it might be worth sinking the money/time into seeing if the fabric is available at something less than an exorbitant price. Or maybe an army/navy surplus would have something like it. Maybe you are tired of ideas now, but it seemed worth mentioning. Best Wishes, Kathryn On Nov 8, 2009, at 6:55 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote: When I go to the grocery store the lights are real high up in the ceiling and don't bother me...but at work the ceiling is an average height ceiling...I notice when we have to go to meetings downstairs, the lights are there also, by the end of the hour or so meeting my ears are beet red along with my neck. When I _use to_ dye my hair the same thing would happen. I use the silver daily to kill off anything going on inside me...and I am in and out of Hospitals, nursing homes and private homes. Being exposed even to the H1N1 and I am happy to say I am pretty healthy. As far as the heavy metals I take clay internally three or four time a week to help keep them at bay, thanks much, Debbie *From:* Diane Mackey dmacke...@comcast.net mailto:dmacke...@comcast.net *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Sun, November 8, 2009 11:45:37 AM *Subject:* Re: CSStrange question Debbie, When I was in my teens, I worked at a grocery store and was sick after every shift. I never realized it was the lights until I changed jobs and it stopped happening, then went back to work in a department store and got sick with the same symptoms. When I would go shopping, I'd get sick again! Finally met a biochemist who told me that it was the fluorescent lights that were doing it. At the time, I thought it was weird. I still hate to go shopping because I don't feel well when done, and I'm a fast shopper! My friend, has three sons, two functioning autistic, all full grown. One 'hears' fluorescent lights and it drives him crazy. He also hears 'wiring' in the walls. The other is very sensitive to sunlight and gets hives and nausea. I'm not sure what the connection is, but my very wild guess is anyone who may have a lot of heavy metals or fungus in their bodies, might have a reaction from fluorescent lights for some reason. I would guess the same can be true from certain rays of the sun. Diane - Original Message - *From:* Clayton Family mailto:clay...@skypoint.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Saturday, November 07, 2009 10:32 AM *Subject:* Re: CSStrange question I agree with Annie, some people are sensitive to florescent lights. In addition to that, there are some neurotoxins that increase sensitivity to EM frequencies, including lights. It is possible that your body has trouble handling it when you are more fatigued, or maybe you are being exposed to something during your workday that increases your sensitivity. Our bodies normally filter out such things, and perhaps that is what happens overnight. I know many people with EM sensitivities, so you are not alone. Kathryn On Nov 6, 2009, at 6:26 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote: This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours during my shift, thanks much, debbie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSStrange question
I have seen gauss meters, and there is a simple one in my multi meter. Does a K2 measure gauss, or hertz? My multimeter makes a cute little noise when it gets near the old knob and tube wiring, so you can tell there is a field that extends more than a foot. It does not have any regular reading for it though, just a noise. I have seen gauss meters that have a numerical readout. Kathryn On Nov 9, 2009, at 3:14 PM, Marshall Dudley wrote: Anyone sensitive to EMF radiation should invest in a K2 meter. Track down and fix or shield anything giving off high EMF. These meters are great for this, they aren't just used for ghost hunting. Marshall Clayton Family wrote: How about a hat made of foil? Seriously. There are fabrics made that screen EM frequencies, and they are made with silver threads in with the cotton or whatever. The military use them for privacy (Em fields are also cell phones and radios) and who knows what else. But they are reported to also work for this kind of thing. I have an OTT light in my kitchen, and the ends of the tubes are wrapped with lead foil to prevent the nasty type of frequencies from leaking out the ends. Someone else suggested aluminum foil might work the same way, and it is worth a try. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSStrange question
Hi Debbie, You could be running out of Mg (or something else) during the course of the shift. OK, tony On 6 Nov 2009 at 19:10, Deborah Gerard wrote about : Subject : Re: CSStrange question Thanks for your reply..I take 6-800mg's of Magnesium with calcium when I go to bed at night and in the morning I spray my inner arms with Mg oil before I go to work...wonder what gives...debbie From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 5:01:41 PM Subject: Re: CSStrange question Muscle spasms can be a symptoms of Magnesium deficiency. Try taking Magnesium, an easy way is to use Milk of Magnesia, small amounts will be absorbed if you are deficient and not cause the laxative effect. Spread it out over the day or use at the end of the day. MOM is rapidly absorbed. There are many food sources of Mg like almonds, cashews, peanuts, dark leafy greens, dark chocolate. There are topical Mg Oils, that are not really oils, but concentrated sea water. They are costly but they can be applied topically to the area. Best way to get Mg is in your food. At the end of the day your muscles may be fatigued and more prone to spasm. Full spectrum bulbs would be nice, and although costly they last many times longer than ordinary fluorescents and would increase worker productivity. Maybe they would go for it? 6,000 kelvin is the rating to look for. Not just Grow Lights for plants. Garnet -- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA Deborah Gerard wrote: This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours during my shift, thanks much, debbie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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I agree with the idea that fluorescent lights can cause health effects in sensitive people. And are known to be the least healthy light source for anyone. Here is a good page with a questionnaire that helps people identify a possible sensitivity. http://www.ei-resource.org/illness-information/related-conditions/electrical-sensitivity--hypersensitivity/ Even though you are taking a Mg supplement and using Mg Oil you could still be deficient in Mg. The trace mineral silicon is essential to Calcium and Magnesium absorption and utilization. Good sources are leafy greens and herbs like Nettles, Oat Straw and Horse tail. Also in onions, best when lightly cooked or raw. Chelated minerals, especially the orotate forms are better than non-chelated. If stress is increasing your cortisol levels during the day then your Mg levels could be dropping by the end of the day. You may be experiencing a combination effect of all of the above or some other physical condition may be contributing. Repetitive motion and posture while you are working may be part of how you feel at the end off the day. Also the level of electromagnetic exposures in the work place during the day is worth looking at. Garnet -- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA Deborah Gerard wrote: Thanks for your reply..I take 6-800mg's of Magnesium with calcium when I go to bed at night and in the morning I spray my inner arms with Mg oil before I go to work...wonder what gives...debbie *From:* Garnet gar...@grandecom.net *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Fri, November 6, 2009 5:01:41 PM *Subject:* Re: CSStrange question Muscle spasms can be a symptoms of Magnesium deficiency. Try taking Magnesium, an easy way is to use Milk of Magnesia, small amounts will be absorbed if you are deficient and not cause the laxative effect. Spread it out over the day or use at the end of the day. MOM is rapidly absorbed. There are many food sources of Mg like almonds, cashews, peanuts, dark leafy greens, dark chocolate. There are topical Mg Oils, that are not really oils, but concentrated sea water. They are costly but they can be applied topically to the area. Best way to get Mg is in your food. At the end of the day your muscles may be fatigued and more prone to spasm. Full spectrum bulbs would be nice, and although costly they last many times longer than ordinary fluorescents and would increase worker productivity. Maybe they would go for it? 6,000 kelvin is the rating to look for. Not just Grow Lights for plants. Garnet -- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA Deborah Gerard wrote: This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours during my shift, thanks much, debbie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSstrange
just thought I'd report a strange occurrence i.e. I used my lazer pen on a jar of DW I just made, and it had the tyndall effect! That is, it had a strong red line across it. I thought this only happened *after* the silver was in it? dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Dorothy, Your DW should not show a Tyndall effect. Possibly in a completely dark room you might see a very faint laser beam, but it will be orders of magnitude fainter than what you see in a properly prepared CS product. Your distiller must be producing impure water. Steve Y. -Original Message- From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 10:01 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSstrange just thought I'd report a strange occurrence i.e. I used my lazer pen on a jar of DW I just made, and it had the tyndall effect! That is, it had a strong red line across it. I thought this only happened *after* the silver was in it? dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.55/2489 - Release Date: 11/08/09 07:37:00
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It reads 000 on the TDS meter though, and the tyndall was brighter on the finished product. dee PS I will leave it and see if it goes yellow. On 8 Nov 2009, at 17:48, SJY wrote: Dorothy, Your DW should not show a Tyndall effect. Possibly in a completely dark room you might see a very faint laser beam, but it will be orders of magnitude fainter than what you see in a properly prepared CS product. Your distiller must be producing impure water. Steve Y. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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The distilled water I buy in the store has a tyndall effect like what you are talking about. The distilled water reads .8 uS on my com-100. I have run this water through my distiller and it still reads .8 uS and still has a tyndall effect. I hope it is just air or something similar. John. From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 12:45:17 PM Subject: Re: CSstrange It reads 000 on the TDS meter though, and the tyndall was brighter on the finished product. dee PS I will leave it and see if it goes yellow. On 8 Nov 2009, at 17:48, SJY wrote: Dorothy, Your DW should not show a Tyndall effect. Possibly in a completely dark room you might see a very faint laser beam, but it will be orders of magnitude fainter than what you see in a properly prepared CS product. Your distiller must be producing impure water. Steve Y. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Mind you, I believe I did once see the tyndall effect in my bought water, but thought it was because I had the silver rods in the water although I had just turned it on. My bought water was very pure - double distilled with a Polar distiller. dee On 8 Nov 2009, at 19:36, john freese wrote: The distilled water I buy in the store has a tyndall effect like what you are talking about. The distilled water reads .8 uS on my com-100. I have run this water through my distiller and it still reads .8 uS and still has a tyndall effect. I hope it is just air or something similar. John. From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 12:45:17 PM Subject: Re: CSstrange It reads 000 on the TDS meter though, and the tyndall was brighter on the finished product. dee PS I will leave it and see if it goes yellow. On 8 Nov 2009, at 17:48, SJY wrote:
Re: CSStrange question
Debbie, When I was in my teens, I worked at a grocery store and was sick after every shift. I never realized it was the lights until I changed jobs and it stopped happening, then went back to work in a department store and got sick with the same symptoms. When I would go shopping, I'd get sick again! Finally met a biochemist who told me that it was the fluorescent lights that were doing it. At the time, I thought it was weird. I still hate to go shopping because I don't feel well when done, and I'm a fast shopper! My friend, has three sons, two functioning autistic, all full grown. One 'hears' fluorescent lights and it drives him crazy. He also hears 'wiring' in the walls. The other is very sensitive to sunlight and gets hives and nausea. I'm not sure what the connection is, but my very wild guess is anyone who may have a lot of heavy metals or fungus in their bodies, might have a reaction from fluorescent lights for some reason. I would guess the same can be true from certain rays of the sun. Diane - Original Message - From: Clayton Family To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 10:32 AM Subject: Re: CSStrange question I agree with Annie, some people are sensitive to florescent lights. In addition to that, there are some neurotoxins that increase sensitivity to EM frequencies, including lights. It is possible that your body has trouble handling it when you are more fatigued, or maybe you are being exposed to something during your workday that increases your sensitivity. Our bodies normally filter out such things, and perhaps that is what happens overnight. I know many people with EM sensitivities, so you are not alone. Kathryn On Nov 6, 2009, at 6:26 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote: This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours during my shift, thanks much, debbie
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When I go to the grocery store the lights are real high up in the ceiling and don't bother me...but at work the ceiling is an average height ceiling...I notice when we have to go to meetings downstairs, the lights are there also, by the end of the hour or so meeting my ears are beet red along with my neck. When I use to dye my hair the same thing would happen. I use the silver daily to kill off anything going on inside me...and I am in and out of Hospitals, nursing homes and private homes. Being exposed even to the H1N1 and I am happy to say I am pretty healthy. As far as the heavy metals I take clay internally three or four time a week to help keep them at bay, thanks much, Debbie From: Diane Mackey dmacke...@comcast.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 11:45:37 AM Subject: Re: CSStrange question Debbie, When I was in my teens, I worked at a grocery store and was sick after every shift. I never realized it was the lights until I changed jobs and it stopped happening, then went back to work in a department store and got sick with the same symptoms. When I would go shopping, I'd get sick again! Finally met a biochemist who told me that it was the fluorescent lights that were doing it. At the time, I thought it was weird. I still hate to go shopping because I don't feel well when done, and I'm a fast shopper! My friend, has three sons, two functioning autistic, all full grown. One 'hears' fluorescent lights and it drives him crazy. He also hears 'wiring' in the walls. The other is very sensitive to sunlight and gets hives and nausea. I'm not sure what the connection is, but my very wild guess is anyone who may have a lot of heavy metals or fungus in their bodies, might have a reaction from fluorescent lights for some reason. I would guess the same can be true from certain rays of the sun. Diane - Original Message - From: Clayton Family To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 10:32 AM Subject: Re: CSStrange question I agree with Annie, some people are sensitive to florescent lights. In addition to that, there are some neurotoxins that increase sensitivity to EM frequencies, including lights. It is possible that your body has trouble handling it when you are more fatigued, or maybe you are being exposed to something during your workday that increases your sensitivity. Our bodies normally filter out such things, and perhaps that is what happens overnight. I know many people with EM sensitivities, so you are not alone. Kathryn On Nov 6, 2009, at 6:26 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote: This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours during my shift, thanks much, debbie
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How about a hat made of foil? Seriously. There are fabrics made that screen EM frequencies, and they are made with silver threads in with the cotton or whatever. The military use them for privacy (Em fields are also cell phones and radios) and who knows what else. But they are reported to also work for this kind of thing. I have an OTT light in my kitchen, and the ends of the tubes are wrapped with lead foil to prevent the nasty type of frequencies from leaking out the ends. Someone else suggested aluminum foil might work the same way, and it is worth a try. If you did a test run with some kitchen foil to shield your head/neck area just to see if it would work, then it might be worth sinking the money/time into seeing if the fabric is available at something less than an exorbitant price. Or maybe an army/navy surplus would have something like it. Maybe you are tired of ideas now, but it seemed worth mentioning. Best Wishes, Kathryn On Nov 8, 2009, at 6:55 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote: When I go to the grocery store the lights are real high up in the ceiling and don't bother me...but at work the ceiling is an average height ceiling...I notice when we have to go to meetings downstairs, the lights are there also, by the end of the hour or so meeting my ears are beet red along with my neck. When I use to dye my hair the same thing would happen. I use the silver daily to kill off anything going on inside me...and I am in and out of Hospitals, nursing homes and private homes. Being exposed even to the H1N1 and I am happy to say I am pretty healthy. As far as the heavy metals I take clay internally three or four time a week to help keep them at bay, thanks much, Debbie From: Diane Mackey dmacke...@comcast.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 11:45:37 AM Subject: Re: CSStrange question Debbie, When I was in my teens, I worked at a grocery store and was sick after every shift. I never realized it was the lights until I changed jobs and it stopped happening, then went back to work in a department store and got sick with the same symptoms. When I would go shopping, I'd get sick again! Finally met a biochemist who told me that it was the fluorescent lights that were doing it. At the time, I thought it was weird. I still hate to go shopping because I don't feel well when done, and I'm a fast shopper! My friend, has three sons, two functioning autistic, all full grown. One 'hears' fluorescent lights and it drives him crazy. He also hears 'wiring' in the walls. The other is very sensitive to sunlight and gets hives and nausea. I'm not sure what the connection is, but my very wild guess is anyone who may have a lot of heavy metals or fungus in their bodies, might have a reaction from fluorescent lights for some reason. I would guess the same can be true from certain rays of the sun. Diane - Original Message - From: Clayton Family To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 10:32 AM Subject: Re: CSStrange question I agree with Annie, some people are sensitive to florescent lights. In addition to that, there are some neurotoxins that increase sensitivity to EM frequencies, including lights. It is possible that your body has trouble handling it when you are more fatigued, or maybe you are being exposed to something during your workday that increases your sensitivity. Our bodies normally filter out such things, and perhaps that is what happens overnight. I know many people with EM sensitivities, so you are not alone. Kathryn On Nov 6, 2009, at 6:26 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote: This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours during my shift, thanks much, debbie
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Hi Debbie, I've not seen an upper limit. But I haven't been looking for an upper limit because I feel that I'm chronically borderline deficient anyway. Mg seems to be the one thing that will haul me back from grumps, confusion and depression. I take a Ca+ Mg powder morning and evening and let them sort themselves out inside. Somewhere i read that it is better to take Ca in the late afternoon or early evening and to take Mg early in the morning. Then also read that Ca needs some Mg and that Mg needs a bit of Ca to be readily absorbed. You have had some wise replies. your running out of energy could come from anywhere. I used to get Sunday Sickness. I'd go like a Boeing, sorta, during the week and collapse over the weekend. Long afterwards figured that Sunday Sickness was probably due to relaxing: release of tension somehow released toxins which created a mini Herx; headache, nausea, lassitude. If only I'd known then to relax, drink more water etc Mg Dosage (min) is anyway tricky thing to establish exactly, because recommended dosage figures are usually in elemental Mg and the packages are in Magnesium Carbonate or whatever. ( I take guess that elemental Mg is about 1/2 of the actual compound ; unless it is stated. ) Also we need relatively more as we age. and absorbtion and requirements depend on other factors like Vit D consumption The RDA is 350mg per day. Krispin says 500mg per day as minimum. I googled magnesium safe dose and first hit was this site: http://www.krispin.com/magnes.html Recommended Dietary Allowance To compensate for deficiencies and/or losses the new RDA is expected to be 500 mg. per day. My Krispin-RDA is a total of 500-700 mg magnesium daily. Determination of optimal amounts must take into consideration both body size and activity level. Magnesium is a key component of the ATP cycle in the cell which produces all energy. Formula to Calculate Magnesium Daily Requirement- 5 to 10 milligrams per day per kilo of ideal body weight or 2.5 to 4.5 milligrams per day per pound of ideal body weight. Example: 70 kilos or 150 pounds= 350 mg. to 700 mg. daily. (Do not use these calculations for children. The requirements for children are calculated differently. Please consult with your health care professional for more information.) If one or more deficiency or loss factors are a consideration or you have any of the conditions associated with low magnesium use the higher number- you take diuretics, including potassium sparing diuretics you are an athlete in training you are diabetic you have hypertension you are post surgical you are under large amounts of stress you consume large amounts of carbohydrates you are repairing damaged tissue as in arthritis the weather is very hot, you perspire profusely you have any of the conditions listed above you are dieting with/without medications you are experiencing chronic pain you have heart disease you have high cholesterol or triglycerides hth, got to go, OK, Tony On 8 Nov 2009 at 7:00, Deborah Gerard wrote about : Subject : Re: CSStrange question does anyone know what the safe limit is for Mg? From: Tony Moody a...@new.co.za To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 12:20:56 AM Subject: Re: CSStrange question Hi Debbie, You could be running out of Mg (or something else) during the course of the shift. OK, tony On 6 Nov 2009 at 19:10, Deborah Gerard wrote about : Subject : Re: CSStrange question Thanks for your reply..I take 6-800mg's of Magnesium with calcium when I go to bed at night and in the morning I spray my inner arms with Mg oil before I go to work...wonder what gives...debbie From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 5:01:41 PM Subject: Re: CSStrange question Muscle spasms can be a symptoms of Magnesium deficiency. Try taking Magnesium, an easy way is to use Milk of Magnesia, small amounts will be absorbed if you are deficient and not cause the laxative effect. Spread it out over the day or use at the end of the day. MOM is rapidly absorbed. There are many food sources of Mg like almonds, cashews, peanuts, dark leafy greens, dark chocolate. There are topical Mg Oils, that are not really oils, but concentrated sea water. They are costly but they can be applied topically to the area. Best way to get Mg is in your food. At the end of the day your muscles may be fatigued and more prone to spasm. Full spectrum bulbs would be nice, and although costly they last many times longer than ordinary fluorescents and would increase worker productivity. Maybe they would go for it? 6,000 kelvin is the rating to look for. Not just Grow Lights for plants. Garnet -- http
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I agree with Annie, some people are sensitive to florescent lights. In addition to that, there are some neurotoxins that increase sensitivity to EM frequencies, including lights. It is possible that your body has trouble handling it when you are more fatigued, or maybe you are being exposed to something during your workday that increases your sensitivity. Our bodies normally filter out such things, and perhaps that is what happens overnight. I know many people with EM sensitivities, so you are not alone. Kathryn On Nov 6, 2009, at 6:26 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote: This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours during my shift, thanks much, debbie
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Eyestrain. Dan On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours during my shift, thanks much, debbie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Not looking at anything though... From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, November 7, 2009 11:51:25 AM Subject: Re: CSStrange question Eyestrain. Dan On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours during my shift, thanks much, debbie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Think about it... Dan On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: Not looking at anything though... From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, November 7, 2009 11:51:25 AM Subject: Re: CSStrange question Eyestrain. Dan On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours during my shift, thanks much, debbie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Fluorescent lights flicker at 60 cycles per second. Also, when the balast or the light is starting to fail, it can also produce a pronounced flickering. This flickering can cause eyestrain. Certain frequencies of light, being unnatural, are also conducive to eyestrain. Usually, this strain then produces some sort of headache or tensing of the muscles around the head, the neck, and/or the shoulders. After working all day, you are probably tired and the extra strain produced by the fluorescents probably are enough to make the problem noticeable... Dan On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: Not looking at anything though... From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, November 7, 2009 11:51:25 AM Subject: Re: CSStrange question Eyestrain. Dan On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours during my shift, thanks much, debbie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Thanks that makes perfect sense, debbie From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, November 7, 2009 12:29:38 PM Subject: Re: CSStrange question Fluorescent lights flicker at 60 cycles per second. Also, when the balast or the light is starting to fail, it can also produce a pronounced flickering. This flickering can cause eyestrain. Certain frequencies of light, being unnatural, are also conducive to eyestrain. Usually, this strain then produces some sort of headache or tensing of the muscles around the head, the neck, and/or the shoulders. After working all day, you are probably tired and the extra strain produced by the fluorescents probably are enough to make the problem noticeable... Dan On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: Not looking at anything though... From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, November 7, 2009 11:51:25 AM Subject: Re: CSStrange question Eyestrain. Dan On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote: This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours during my shift, thanks much, debbie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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thanks for everyone's input, debbie From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, November 7, 2009 7:32:17 AM Subject: Re: CSStrange question I agree with Annie, some people are sensitive to florescent lights. In addition to that, there are some neurotoxins that increase sensitivity to EM frequencies, including lights. It is possible that your body has trouble handling it when you are more fatigued, or maybe you are being exposed to something during your workday that increases your sensitivity. Our bodies normally filter out such things, and perhaps that is what happens overnight. I know many people with EM sensitivities, so you are not alone. Kathryn On Nov 6, 2009, at 6:26 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote: This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours during my shift, thanks much, debbie
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Annie what is A Qlink all about? thanks much Debbie From: Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 9:15:48 PM Subject: Re: CSStrange question Some people are sensitive to fluorescent lights. For instance epileptic people can't tolerate fluorescents well. They can trigger epileptic seizures. Maybe you're just extra sensitive to them when you're fatigued at the end of the day. A Qlink might help. I've heard some promising things about them. I've been saving to buy one. You can find them more reasonably priced on eBay than the website. Annie Deborah Gerard wrote: This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours during my shift, thanks much, debbie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours during my shift, thanks much, debbie
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Muscle spasms can be a symptoms of Magnesium deficiency. Try taking Magnesium, an easy way is to use Milk of Magnesia, small amounts will be absorbed if you are deficient and not cause the laxative effect. Spread it out over the day or use at the end of the day. MOM is rapidly absorbed. There are many food sources of Mg like almonds, cashews, peanuts, dark leafy greens, dark chocolate. There are topical Mg Oils, that are not really oils, but concentrated sea water. They are costly but they can be applied topically to the area. Best way to get Mg is in your food. At the end of the day your muscles may be fatigued and more prone to spasm. Full spectrum bulbs would be nice, and although costly they last many times longer than ordinary fluorescents and would increase worker productivity. Maybe they would go for it? 6,000 kelvin is the rating to look for. Not just Grow Lights for plants. Garnet -- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA Deborah Gerard wrote: This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours during my shift, thanks much, debbie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Also Potassium deficiency? If leg muscle cramps wake me at night, a couple days of Potassium supplementation makes them go away. FWIW. MA From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 7:01:41 PM Subject: Re: CSStrange question Muscle spasms can be a symptoms of Magnesium deficiency. Try taking Magnesium, an easy way is to use Milk of Magnesia, small amounts will be absorbed if you are deficient and not cause the laxative effect. Spread it out over the day or use at the end of the day. MOM is rapidly absorbed. There are many food sources of Mg like almonds, cashews, peanuts, dark leafy greens, dark chocolate. There are topical Mg Oils, that are not really oils, but concentrated sea water. They are costly but they can be applied topically to the area. Best way to get Mg is in your food. At the end of the day your muscles may be fatigued and more prone to spasm. Full spectrum bulbs would be nice, and although costly they last many times longer than ordinary fluorescents and would increase worker productivity. Maybe they would go for it? 6,000 kelvin is the rating to look for. Not just Grow Lights for plants. Garnet -- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA Deborah Gerard wrote: This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours during my shift, thanks much, debbie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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A big glass of water stops mine immediately at night, but a large glass of water before you sleep tends to stop it ever happening. Jane From: MaryAnn Helland Also Potassium deficiency? If leg muscle cramps wake me at night, a couple days of Potassium supplementation makes them go away. FWIW. MA ,
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Thanks for your reply..I take 6-800mg's of Magnesium with calcium when I go to bed at night and in the morning I spray my inner arms with Mg oil before I go to work...wonder what gives...debbie From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 5:01:41 PM Subject: Re: CSStrange question Muscle spasms can be a symptoms of Magnesium deficiency. Try taking Magnesium, an easy way is to use Milk of Magnesia, small amounts will be absorbed if you are deficient and not cause the laxative effect. Spread it out over the day or use at the end of the day. MOM is rapidly absorbed. There are many food sources of Mg like almonds, cashews, peanuts, dark leafy greens, dark chocolate. There are topical Mg Oils, that are not really oils, but concentrated sea water. They are costly but they can be applied topically to the area. Best way to get Mg is in your food. At the end of the day your muscles may be fatigued and more prone to spasm. Full spectrum bulbs would be nice, and although costly they last many times longer than ordinary fluorescents and would increase worker productivity. Maybe they would go for it? 6,000 kelvin is the rating to look for. Not just Grow Lights for plants. Garnet -- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA Deborah Gerard wrote: This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours during my shift, thanks much, debbie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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LOL -- a large glass of water before I sleep will have me up for other reasons, Jane! :-D MA From: Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 7:40:47 PM Subject: Re: CSStrange question A big glass of water stops mine immediately at night, but a large glass of water before you sleep tends to stop it ever happening. Jane From: MaryAnn Helland Also Potassium deficiency? If leg muscle cramps wake me at night, a couple days of Potassium supplementation makes them go away. FWIW. MA ,
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You and me both :) From: MaryAnn Helland marmar...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 7:35:39 PM Subject: Re: CSStrange question LOL -- a large glass of water before I sleep will have me up for other reasons, Jane! :-D MA From: Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 7:40:47 PM Subject: Re: CSStrange question A big glass of water stops mine immediately at night, but a large glass of water before you sleep tends to stop it ever happening. Jane From: MaryAnn Helland Also Potassium deficiency? If leg muscle cramps wake me at night, a couple days of Potassium supplementation makes them go away. FWIW. MA ,
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Some people are sensitive to fluorescent lights. For instance epileptic people can't tolerate fluorescents well. They can trigger epileptic seizures. Maybe you're just extra sensitive to them when you're fatigued at the end of the day. A Qlink might help. I've heard some promising things about them. I've been saving to buy one. You can find them more reasonably priced on eBay than the website. Annie Deborah Gerard wrote: This is bizarre problem...I have a problem with florescent lights in our breakroom at work...they don't bother me before work it is when I am almost done at night and I sit there for about twenty minutes and I get spasms in my neck that are unreal...anyone have any info on such a problem...I do try to stay out of the room as much as possible and am not there for eight hours during my shift, thanks much, debbie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Dear Sol: How much CS do you drink in a day? thanks. Faith - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 10:13 PM Subject: Re: CSstrange eye (lid) problem Hi Ruth, Thanks for the suggestion, I thought that is what maybe I had, so I did go to the eye doctor, he looked and didn't find any infection, or signs of glaucoma or iritis, etc. Of course, my eye was quite a lot better by the time I got to see the doctor. His diagnosis dermatitis, probably connected to my eczema. He said he is familar with shingles and this definitely isn't shingles. That was a relief. The eczema is bad enough. Anyway it is pretty much ok now, and I'm still using CS/MSM drops and CS misting and drinking more than my usual. I'll keep that up for a while yet. I am glad your shingles got better with CS. CS is amazing isn't it? My husband caught another cold, and I haven't caught it. That alone is a good thing for me, with the eczema, the eye thing, and my other issues, I didn't need a cold on top of that. sol Ruth Bertella wrote: Have you ever had shingles before and know what the symptoms are? This sounds like what happened to me when I came down with/was diagnosed with having shingles. They started out as little pimple like things, then turned into what looked like tiny blisters then popped and made scabs. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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There's also gaze avesion. This is probably far afield. But it is a symptom of autism and some forms of truama. The eye lids droop and eventually shut. You appear to be sleeping. But you're not. You're focusing. Autistic people get overwelmed with interaction sometimes. They lack the screens to take out stimuli, as a result they get over stimulated. By closing the eyes they limit imput. This helps with focus. It is functional. Though annoying. This guys always falling asleep when I'm talking to him. Cure. Awareness. =z= faith gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote: Dear Sol: How much CS do you drink in a day? thanks. Faith - Original Message - From: sol To: Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 10:13 PM Subject: Re: CSstrange eye (lid) problem Hi Ruth, Thanks for the suggestion, I thought that is what maybe I had, so I did go to the eye doctor, he looked and didn't find any infection, or signs of glaucoma or iritis, etc. Of course, my eye was quite a lot better by the time I got to see the doctor. His diagnosis dermatitis, probably connected to my eczema. He said he is familar with shingles and this definitely isn't shingles. That was a relief. The eczema is bad enough. Anyway it is pretty much ok now, and I'm still using CS/MSM drops and CS misting and drinking more than my usual. I'll keep that up for a while yet. I am glad your shingles got better with CS. CS is amazing isn't it? My husband caught another cold, and I haven't caught it. That alone is a good thing for me, with the eczema, the eye thing, and my other issues, I didn't need a cold on top of that. sol Ruth Bertella wrote: Have you ever had shingles before and know what the symptoms are? This sounds like what happened to me when I came down with/was diagnosed with having shingles. They started out as little pimple like things, then turned into what looked like tiny blisters then popped and made scabs. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour =z= The novelist, journalist and psychologist Michael Zangari http://zangarijournalism.com - Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search.
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Hi Ruth, Thanks for the suggestion, I thought that is what maybe I had, so I did go to the eye doctor, he looked and didn't find any infection, or signs of glaucoma or iritis, etc. Of course, my eye was quite a lot better by the time I got to see the doctor. His diagnosis dermatitis, probably connected to my eczema. He said he is familar with shingles and this definitely isn't shingles. That was a relief. The eczema is bad enough. Anyway it is pretty much ok now, and I'm still using CS/MSM drops and CS misting and drinking more than my usual. I'll keep that up for a while yet. I am glad your shingles got better with CS. CS is amazing isn't it? My husband caught another cold, and I haven't caught it. That alone is a good thing for me, with the eczema, the eye thing, and my other issues, I didn't need a cold on top of that. sol Ruth Bertella wrote: Have you ever had shingles before and know what the symptoms are? This sounds like what happened to me when I came down with/was diagnosed with having shingles. They started out as little pimple like things, then turned into what looked like tiny blisters then popped and made scabs. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSstrange eye (lid) problem
In the past couple weeks I've gotten a couple tiny boil like things on the sides of the upper bridge of my nose. Thinking they were just from the rubbing/pressure of the nose pads of my glasses (have had them occasionally from that) I just treated them with CS/DMSO and didn't think more about it, but now In the past 4 days, I've had a couple of boil looking 'pimples' in the eye area. First right where the edge of the under eye skin, in the crease where the delicate eye skin meets the cheekbone skin, near the nose. Last night I looked to see what was causing pain in my inner right upper eyelid, and there was another pimple or boil type of thing very near the inner corner of the eye, and right on the very inner edge of the eyelid. I drained it, but could not avoid some of the infected matter getting in my eye, because of where it was. All have been treated with CS/DMSO, and seem to be resolving ok. I will continue misting my right eye today with CS/DMSO and putting in CS/MSM eye drops. And have also begun taking a lot more CS orally as of last night and today. I have also during these same 4 days had some pimples on my scalp, just back from the hairline in the area between the temples and sides of head above the eara The question: I think this must indicate some soruce of infection, maybe tooth or sinus infection? What should I consider looking at as the possible source of the infection? If I decide to go to a doctor to have this looked at, what should I request they look at? Dental x-rays? Maybe I should see a dentist first? I do not have any tooth pain. thanks for any comments, guesses, or speculations, I wasn't very concerned until the one last night which was actually rubbing against the eyeball as I blinked. Now I think I had better pay attention. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hiya Sol, Have you ever had shingles before and know what the symptoms are? This sounds like what happened to me when I came down with/was diagnosed with having shingles. They started out as little pimple like things, then turned into what looked like tiny blisters then popped and made scabs. Mine started on the eyelid and eyebrow area, went across my forehead and into my scalp a few inches. I started having relatively bad headaches off and on, but waited about 3 weeks before going to the doctor. He prescribed a weeks worth of something for herpes (can't remember what it's been so long, but I'm pretty sure its what they presribe for genital herpes and was probably over the worst of it). He said I had a mild case of shingles. At the time I was drinking several ounces of CS daily. I did not fill the prescription, just continued to drink my CS (but lots more than usual), and also started applying CS topically several times a day. It took a few weeks but it finally cleared up. Another symptom was a creepy-crawly feeling from time to time along the area of the breakout. After it cleared up, it left what looked like blackheads, which I extracted over several days time. Sounds like you have a good head start on taking care of it at least. Hope you feel better real soon!! Ruth - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 10:38 AM Subject: CSstrange eye (lid) problem In the past couple weeks I've gotten a couple tiny boil like things on the sides of the upper bridge of my nose. Thinking they were just from the rubbing/pressure of the nose pads of my glasses (have had them occasionally from that) I just treated them with CS/DMSO and didn't think more about it, but now In the past 4 days, I've had a couple of boil looking 'pimples' in the eye area. First right where the edge of the under eye skin, in the crease where the delicate eye skin meets the cheekbone skin, near the nose. Last night I looked to see what was causing pain in my inner right upper eyelid, and there was another pimple or boil type of thing very near the inner corner of the eye, and right on the very inner edge of the eyelid. I drained it, but could not avoid some of the infected matter getting in my eye, because of where it was. All have been treated with CS/DMSO, and seem to be resolving ok. I will continue misting my right eye today with CS/DMSO and putting in CS/MSM eye drops. And have also begun taking a lot more CS orally as of last night and today. I have also during these same 4 days had some pimples on my scalp, just back from the hairline in the area between the temples and sides of head above the eara The question: I think this must indicate some soruce of infection, maybe tooth or sinus infection? What should I consider looking at as the possible source of the infection? If I decide to go to a doctor to have this looked at, what should I request they look at? Dental x-rays? Maybe I should see a dentist first? I do not have any tooth pain. thanks for any comments, guesses, or speculations, I wasn't very concerned until the one last night which was actually rubbing against the eyeball as I blinked. Now I think I had better pay attention. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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What happened is that the silver agglomerated into very large particles. Particles of what? Who knows! Red indicates a certain size range, not neccesarily composition. Probably, there's something in your tap water that acts as a catylist. Silver itself is an industrial catylist. When dealing with charged ions, anything that can happen, will happen. Ode At 11:00 PM 6/13/2003 -0400, you wrote: I usually wake up a couple of times in the middle of the night and drink water. I run tap water through a Brita filter. In the last 6 months or so I have been adding CS to the glass of water that I keep by the bed. Last night the CS turned the tap water a faint red color almost instantly. Recently I changed my process from making one pint at a time to making 4 pints at a time. Instead of using a one pint beer glass, I now use a 4 pint mason jar. I use two pieces of 12 gauge silver wire that are wetted in DW to four and one half inches. To agitate the solution, I use the second hand movement from a cheap clock motor. I attach monofilament fishing line to the clock motor and suspend a small piece of silver to the bottom of the electrodes. I'm using about 300 uA to keep the electrodes from turning black. I'm running it for about 12 to 14 hours. The solution finishes clear but sometimes turns a very faint yellow after a few days. The brew vessel is always scrubbed good - without soap - and rinsed several times in DW. I've made red CS in the past by hitting it with 100 VDC and letting it run violently for a while. Lots of black streamers and bubbles (^_^). But I've never seen my clear or faint yellow CS turn the tap water red, even when I was using my older, higher current, wipe the black stuff off of the electrodes process. Any comments or suggestions? Andy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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The only water I ever drink anymore is DW. Even in the middle of the night I have a glass of ice DW right beside the bed just in case. Maybe you could add the CS to something like that? -Original Message- From: ascottsil...@aol.com [mailto:ascottsil...@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 10:37 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSStrange results Hi Paula, Yeah, I guess faint red is the same thing as pink. Maybe diluting CS with tap water has been changing it's color all along and I didn't notice it until the other night. I guess I better dilute it only with DW as per Ole Bob's recommendation. When my sinuses clog up in the middle of the night I become a mouth breather and I wake up and drink a lot of water. I thought that adding CS to the water might be a good idea. I should probably rethink my protocol. Best wishes, Andy From: sol I mix CS in my cat's drinking water which is tap water run through a Teledyne faucet filter. It almost always turns color immediately on adding the CS to the filtered water--sometimes grey, sometimes lavender, sometimes pink. Never seen red, unless by faint red, you do mean pink? Wonder why the color it changes to isn't always the same color? paula - Original Message - From: ascottsil...@aol.com I usually wake up a couple of times in the middle of the night and drink water. I run tap water through a Brita filter. In the last 6 months or so I have been adding CS to the glass of water that I keep by the bed. Last night the CS turned the tap water a faint red color almost instantly.
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Give the cat a bowl of cs, straight up or diluted in DW. No more than the cat will drink though as saliva eventually makes it go violet. Wash the bowl between filling it. Cat water bowls get a slime on the bottom. Most cats prefer CS to plain water anyway. Ode At 11:03 PM 6/15/2003 -0500, you wrote: I usually just put some CS in a spray bottle and spray a little on the cats front feet. The cat will do what comes natural and lick the feet clean thus consuming the CS in the process. Jeff -Original Message- From: Marv Hacker [mailto:marv...@charter.net] Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 7:30 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSStrange results Hi, Paula, Do you think that it would it be better to pour DW into the dish and then add some CS? Rgds, :) Marv - Original Message - From: mailto:pcar...@wyoming.comsol To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 10:28 AM Subject: Re: CSStrange results I mix CS in my cat's drinking water which is tap water run through a Teledyne faucet filter. It almost always turns color immediately on adding the CS to the filtered water--sometimes grey, sometimes lavender, sometimes pink. Never seen red, unless by faint red, you do mean pink? Wonder why the color it changes to isn't always the same color? paula - Original Message - From: mailto:ascottsil...@aol.comascottsil...@aol.com I usually wake up a couple of times in the middle of the night and drink water. I run tap water through a Brita filter. In the last 6 months or so I have been adding CS to the glass of water that I keep by the bed. Last night the CS turned the tap water a faint red color almost instantly. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Something as simple as the pH can make CS aggregate. Marshall Ode Coyote wrote: What happened is that the silver agglomerated into very large particles. Particles of what? Who knows! Red indicates a certain size range, not neccesarily composition. Probably, there's something in your tap water that acts as a catylist. Silver itself is an industrial catylist. When dealing with charged ions, anything that can happen, will happen. Ode At 11:00 PM 6/13/2003 -0400, you wrote: I usually wake up a couple of times in the middle of the night and drink water. I run tap water through a Brita filter. In the last 6 months or so I have been adding CS to the glass of water that I keep by the bed. Last night the CS turned the tap water a faint red color almost instantly. Recently I changed my process from making one pint at a time to making 4 pints at a time. Instead of using a one pint beer glass, I now use a 4 pint mason jar. I use two pieces of 12 gauge silver wire that are wetted in DW to four and one half inches. To agitate the solution, I use the second hand movement from a cheap clock motor. I attach monofilament fishing line to the clock motor and suspend a small piece of silver to the bottom of the electrodes. I'm using about 300 uA to keep the electrodes from turning black. I'm running it for about 12 to 14 hours. The solution finishes clear but sometimes turns a very faint yellow after a few days. The brew vessel is always scrubbed good - without soap - and rinsed several times in DW. I've made red CS in the past by hitting it with 100 VDC and letting it run violently for a while. Lots of black streamers and bubbles (^_^). But I've never seen my clear or faint yellow CS turn the tap water red, even when I was using my older, higher current, wipe the black stuff off of the electrodes process. Any comments or suggestions? Andy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Paula, Yeah, I guess faint red is the same thing as pink. Maybe diluting CS with tap water has been changing it's color all along and I didn't notice it until the other night. I guess I better dilute it only with DW as per Ole Bob's recommendation. When my sinuses clog up in the middle of the night I become a mouth breather and I wake up and drink a lot of water. I thought that adding CS to the water might be a good idea. I should probably rethink my protocol. Best wishes, Andy From: sol I mix CS in my cat's drinking water which is tap water run through a Teledyne faucet filter. It almost always turns color immediately on adding the CS to the filtered water--sometimes grey, sometimes lavender, sometimes pink. Never seen red, unless by faint red, you do mean pink? Wonder why the color it changes to isn't always the same color? paula - Original Message - From: ascottsil...@aol.com I usually wake up a couple of times in the middle of the night and drink water. I run tap water through a Brita filter. In the last 6 months or so I have been adding CS to the glass of water that I keep by the bed. Last night the CS turned the tap water a faint red color almost instantly.
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I usually just put some CS in a spray bottle and spray a little on the cats front feet. The cat will do what comes natural and lick the feet clean thus consuming the CS in the process. Jeff -Original Message- From: Marv Hacker [mailto:marv...@charter.net] Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 7:30 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSStrange results Hi, Paula, Do you think that it would it be better to pour DW into the dish and then add some CS? Rgds, :) Marv - Original Message - From: sol mailto:pcar...@wyoming.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 10:28 AM Subject: Re: CSStrange results I mix CS in my cat's drinking water which is tap water run through a Teledyne faucet filter. It almost always turns color immediately on adding the CS to the filtered water--sometimes grey, sometimes lavender, sometimes pink. Never seen red, unless by faint red, you do mean pink? Wonder why the color it changes to isn't always the same color? paula - Original Message - From: ascottsil...@aol.com I usually wake up a couple of times in the middle of the night and drink water. I run tap water through a Brita filter. In the last 6 months or so I have been adding CS to the glass of water that I keep by the bed. Last night the CS turned the tap water a faint red color almost instantly.
Re: CSStrange results
I mix CS in my cat's drinking water which is tap water run through a Teledyne faucet filter. It almost always turns color immediately on adding the CS to the filtered water--sometimes grey, sometimes lavender, sometimes pink. Never seen red, unless by faint red, you do mean pink? Wonder why the color it changes to isn't always the same color? paula - Original Message - From: ascottsil...@aol.com I usually wake up a couple of times in the middle of the night and drink water. I run tap water through a Brita filter. In the last 6 months or so I have been adding CS to the glass of water that I keep by the bed. Last night the CS turned the tap water a faint red color almost instantly.
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Paula, You CANNOT use tap waterfor mixing with CS. There are too many impurieties in it that the filters will not remove. Use only RO or DW for mixing with CS!! Ole Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi, Paula, Do you think that it would it be better to pour DW into the dish and then add some CS? Rgds, :) Marv - Original Message - From: sol To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 10:28 AM Subject: Re: CSStrange results I mix CS in my cat's drinking water which is tap water run through a Teledyne faucet filter. It almost always turns color immediately on adding the CS to the filtered water--sometimes grey, sometimes lavender, sometimes pink. Never seen red, unless by faint red, you do mean pink? Wonder why the color it changes to isn't always the same color? paula - Original Message - From: ascottsil...@aol.com I usually wake up a couple of times in the middle of the night and drink water. I run tap water through a Brita filter. In the last 6 months or so I have been adding CS to the glass of water that I keep by the bed. Last night the CS turned the tap water a faint red color almost instantly.
CSStrange results
I usually wake up a couple of times in the middle of the night and drink water. I run tap water through a Brita filter. In the last 6 months or so I have been adding CS to the glass of water that I keep by the bed. Last night the CS turned the tap water a faint red color almost instantly. Recently I changed my process from making one pint at a time to making 4 pints at a time. Instead of using a one pint beer glass, I now use a 4 pint mason jar. I use two pieces of 12 gauge silver wire that are wetted in DW to four and one half inches. To agitate the solution, I use the second hand movement from a cheap clock motor. I attach monofilament fishing line to the clock motor and suspend a small piece of silver to the bottom of the electrodes. I'm using about 300 uA to keep the electrodes from turning black. I'm running it for about 12 to 14 hours. The solution finishes clear but sometimes turns a very faint yellow after a few days. The brew vessel is always scrubbed good - without soap - and rinsed several times in DW. I've made red CS in the past by hitting it with 100 VDC and letting it run violently for a while. Lots of black streamers and bubbles (^_^). But I've never seen my clear or faint yellow CS turn the tap water red, even when I was using my older, higher current, wipe the black stuff off of the electrodes process. Any comments or suggestions? Andy
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I would sure want to know what they have added to your tap water. I wouldn't drink it till I knew. Sincerely Yours, Hank - Original Message - From: ascottsil...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 10:00 PM Subject: CSStrange results I usually wake up a couple of times in the middle of the night and drink water. I run tap water through a Brita filter. In the last 6 months or so I have been adding CS to the glass of water that I keep by the bed. Last night the CS turned the tap water a faint red color almost instantly. Recently I changed my process from making one pint at a time to making 4 pints at a time. Instead of using a one pint beer glass, I now use a 4 pint mason jar. I use two pieces of 12 gauge silver wire that are wetted in DW to four and one half inches. To agitate the solution, I use the second hand movement from a cheap clock motor. I attach monofilament fishing line to the clock motor and suspend a small piece of silver to the bottom of the electrodes. I'm using about 300 uA to keep the electrodes from turning black. I'm running it for about 12 to 14 hours. The solution finishes clear but sometimes turns a very faint yellow after a few days. The brew vessel is always scrubbed good - without soap - and rinsed several times in DW. I've made red CS in the past by hitting it with 100 VDC and letting it run violently for a while. Lots of black streamers and bubbles (^_^). But I've never seen my clear or faint yellow CS turn the tap water red, even when I was using my older, higher current, wipe the black stuff off of the electrodes process. Any comments or suggestions? Andy --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.488 / Virus Database: 287 - Release Date: 6/5/03
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Wayne, A characteristic of DMSO is that it gives off heat when diluted with water. I can't explain the loss of volume. regards, Tony Wayne Fugitt wrote: Yesterday I made a 16 oz batch of CS using virtually the same methods I have used before. In the past, I have used the 27 volt LVDC generator, with 2 small 12 volt batteries connected in series. This would be 51 VDC, virtually the same as the telephone generator I am testing. I used no saline. Added about 1 oz CS from a previous batch. ( 16 oz batch ) The color is lemon, or pale yellow and tastes bitter. The time on this batch was about 3.5 hours. After determining that the batch was ok, ( or so I thought ) I used a four ounce bottle and mixed 50-50 with DMSO for a fungicide treatment to be used for toenail fungus. Even thru the brown bottle, I could see strange things happening. Plus a noticable warming effect was noticed. The bottle did not get hot, but it was more than slightly warm. Medium warm, but not hot. After a time, it cooled off. The bottle was a 4 ounce dropper bottle with the rubber bulb. No glass or plastic dropper tube was installed in the rubber bulb. The bottle was about 90% full. 12 hours later, the bottle was about 20 % full. The top was screwed on with a reasonable tension. Can anyone offer and facts as to what happened? I have 16 ounces of the CS and more of the DMSO. Should I see if this will happen again? Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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In a message dated 7/10/01 10:33:06 PM EST, svr9...@att.net writes: Subj: CSre: Re: CSStrange Reaction Date: 7/10/01 10:33:06 PM EST From: svr9...@att.net Reply-to: svr9...@att.net (svr) To:silver-list@eskimo.com I just mixed a 50-50 solution of DMSO and CS, and got the same warming effect. My CS was clear and the resultant solution was clear. Steve Steve: Did you get that huge volume decrease after mixing that you reported earlier? Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSStrange Reaction
In a message dated 7/11/01 5:59:27 AM EST, svr9...@att.net writes: Subj: CSStrange Reaction Date: 7/11/01 5:59:27 AM EST From: svr9...@att.net Reply-to: svr9...@att.net (svr) To:silver-list@eskimo.com Roger, I wasn't the one who first wrote about the strange reaction, but my solution did experience about a 20% reduction in volume. Wonder where it went? Steve Steve: I am unfamiliar with the properties of DMSO except that I know it is an extremely good solvent and has an affinity with water. The heat generation and volume decrease upon mixing is probably similar to what happens when water and sulfuric acid are mixed together. First, there is a hydration reaction that releases quite a bit of heat. This reaction is cause by the rearrangement of the water and sulfuric acid molecules which not only releases heat, but also creates a greater atomic density of the new molecules and ions, thus reducing the overall volume of the final solution. Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSStrange Reaction
Roger, I wasn't the one who first wrote about the strange reaction, but my solution did experience about a 20% reduction in volume. Wonder where it went? Steve ** Original Subject: Re: CSre: Re: CSStrange Reaction ** Original Sender: rogalt...@aol.com ** Original Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 10:38:00 + ** Original Message follows... In a message dated 7/10/01 10:33:06 PM EST, svr9...@att.net writes: Subj: CSre: Re: CSStrange Reaction Date: 7/10/01 10:33:06 PM EST From: svr9...@att.net Reply-to: svr9...@att.net (svr) To:silver-list@eskimo.com I just mixed a 50-50 solution of DMSO and CS, and got the same warming effect. My CS was clear and the resultant solution was clear. Steve Steve: Did you get that huge volume decrease after mixing that you reported earlier? Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com ** - End Original Message --- **
Re: CSStrange Reaction
This is normal, mixing water and DMSO is an exothermic reaction: http://bcn.net/~stoll/archives/dmso/15683.html Chemically DMSO is a small molecule that is VERY reactive. In other words it gloms onto other molecules and can change their bioavailability (increase or decrease) radically (strong caution here for anyone concommitantly taking any other medication). I'm sure that you've noticed the strong exothermic reaction that takes place when adding water to a fairly pure DMSO solution. The above properties are what make it an interesting 'carrier' molecule. They are the same properties, chemically speaking, that might make it an effective anti-oxidant/free radical scavenger (the problem would be that it is SO reactive that the free radical would almost have to be the first molecule the DMSO sees). http://www.edelsoncenter.com/dmso.htm An exothermic reaction occurs when DMSO is diluted with water (heat is generated). Marshall svr9...@att.net wrote: I just mixed a 50-50 solution of DMSO and CS, and got the same warming effect. My CS was clear and the resultant solution was clear. Steve ** Original Subject: Re: CSStrange Reaction ** Original Sender: Daniel Hernandez godismyjudge...@juno.com ** Original Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 19:40:50 + ** Original Message follows... This is most bizzar, Try it again and see what happens. Let us know. Daniel On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 11:31:05 -0500 Wayne Fugitt wa...@fugitt.com writes: Yesterday I made a 16 oz batch of CS using virtually the same methods I have used before. In the past, I have used the 27 volt LVDC generator, with 2 small 12 volt batteries connected in series. This would be 51 VDC, virtually the same as the telephone generator I am testing. I used no saline. Added about 1 oz CS from a previous batch. ( 16 oz batch ) The color is lemon, or pale yellow and tastes bitter. The time on this batch was about 3.5 hours. After determining that the batch was ok, ( or so I thought ) I used a four ounce bottle and mixed 50-50 with DMSO for a fungicide treatment to be used for toenail fungus. Even thru the brown bottle, I could see strange things happening. Plus a noticable warming effect was noticed. The bottle did not get hot, but it was more than slightly warm. Medium warm, but not hot. After a time, it cooled off. The bottle was a 4 ounce dropper bottle with the rubber bulb. No glass or plastic dropper tube was installed in the rubber bulb. The bottle was about 90% full. 12 hours later, the bottle was about 20 % full. The top was screwed on with a reasonable tension. Can anyone offer and facts as to what happened? I have 16 ounces of the CS and more of the DMSO. Should I see if this will happen again? Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com ** - End Original Message --- **
Re: CSStrange Reaction
Morning Marshall, I tried this again, and the results were the same. A few others on the list did likewise. Except that it did not all disappear as did the first batch. I still can't explain that. I appreciate the explanation you have given us. The links were helpful as well. Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSStrange Reaction
What about the lost volume? I have not noticed any visually noticeable reduction in volume when mixing DMSO and CS. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 8:43 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSStrange Reaction This is normal, mixing water and DMSO is an exothermic reaction: http://bcn.net/~stoll/archives/dmso/15683.html Chemically DMSO is a small molecule that is VERY reactive. In other words it gloms onto other molecules and can change their bioavailability (increase or decrease) radically (strong caution here for anyone concommitantly taking any other medication). I'm sure that you've noticed the strong exothermic reaction that takes place when adding water to a fairly pure DMSO solution. The above properties are what make it an interesting 'carrier' molecule. They are the same properties, chemically speaking, that might make it an effective anti-oxidant/free radical scavenger (the problem would be that it is SO reactive that the free radical would almost have to be the first molecule the DMSO sees). http://www.edelsoncenter.com/dmso.htm An exothermic reaction occurs when DMSO is diluted with water (heat is generated). Marshall svr9...@att.net wrote: I just mixed a 50-50 solution of DMSO and CS, and got the same warming effect. My CS was clear and the resultant solution was clear. Steve ** Original Subject: Re: CSStrange Reaction ** Original Sender: Daniel Hernandez godismyjudge...@juno.com ** Original Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 19:40:50 + ** Original Message follows... This is most bizzar, Try it again and see what happens. Let us know. Daniel On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 11:31:05 -0500 Wayne Fugitt wa...@fugitt.com writes: Yesterday I made a 16 oz batch of CS using virtually the same methods I have used before. In the past, I have used the 27 volt LVDC generator, with 2 small 12 volt batteries connected in series. This would be 51 VDC, virtually the same as the telephone generator I am testing. I used no saline. Added about 1 oz CS from a previous batch. ( 16 oz batch ) The color is lemon, or pale yellow and tastes bitter. The time on this batch was about 3.5 hours. After determining that the batch was ok, ( or so I thought ) I used a four ounce bottle and mixed 50-50 with DMSO for a fungicide treatment to be used for toenail fungus. Even thru the brown bottle, I could see strange things happening. Plus a noticable warming effect was noticed. The bottle did not get hot, but it was more than slightly warm. Medium warm, but not hot. After a time, it cooled off. The bottle was a 4 ounce dropper bottle with the rubber bulb. No glass or plastic dropper tube was installed in the rubber bulb. The bottle was about 90% full. 12 hours later, the bottle was about 20 % full. The top was screwed on with a reasonable tension. Can anyone offer and facts as to what happened? I have 16 ounces of the CS and more of the DMSO. Should I see if this will happen again? Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com ** - End Original Message --- **
Re: CSStrange Reaction
If you want to wade through it, I think this site has the scientific information on it: http://www.chemistry.utep.edu/davis/ksproject/Section15/ Marshall Tony Moody wrote: Wayne, A characteristic of DMSO is that it gives off heat when diluted with water. I can't explain the loss of volume. regards, Tony Wayne Fugitt wrote: Yesterday I made a 16 oz batch of CS using virtually the same methods I have used before. In the past, I have used the 27 volt LVDC generator, with 2 small 12 volt batteries connected in series. This would be 51 VDC, virtually the same as the telephone generator I am testing. I used no saline. Added about 1 oz CS from a previous batch. ( 16 oz batch ) The color is lemon, or pale yellow and tastes bitter. The time on this batch was about 3.5 hours. After determining that the batch was ok, ( or so I thought ) I used a four ounce bottle and mixed 50-50 with DMSO for a fungicide treatment to be used for toenail fungus. Even thru the brown bottle, I could see strange things happening. Plus a noticable warming effect was noticed. The bottle did not get hot, but it was more than slightly warm. Medium warm, but not hot. After a time, it cooled off. The bottle was a 4 ounce dropper bottle with the rubber bulb. No glass or plastic dropper tube was installed in the rubber bulb. The bottle was about 90% full. 12 hours later, the bottle was about 20 % full. The top was screwed on with a reasonable tension. Can anyone offer and facts as to what happened? I have 16 ounces of the CS and more of the DMSO. Should I see if this will happen again? Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSStrange Reaction
The strange things happening are probably differences in the diffraction index to light of the fluids as they mixed, giving the appearance of swirls and vortices. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Tony Moody [mailto:a...@new.co.za] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 1:01 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSStrange Reaction Wayne, A characteristic of DMSO is that it gives off heat when diluted with water. I can't explain the loss of volume. regards, Tony Wayne Fugitt wrote: Yesterday I made a 16 oz batch of CS using virtually the same methods I have used before. In the past, I have used the 27 volt LVDC generator, with 2 small 12 volt batteries connected in series. This would be 51 VDC, virtually the same as the telephone generator I am testing. I used no saline. Added about 1 oz CS from a previous batch. ( 16 oz batch ) The color is lemon, or pale yellow and tastes bitter. The time on this batch was about 3.5 hours. After determining that the batch was ok, ( or so I thought ) I used a four ounce bottle and mixed 50-50 with DMSO for a fungicide treatment to be used for toenail fungus. Even thru the brown bottle, I could see strange things happening. Plus a noticable warming effect was noticed. The bottle did not get hot, but it was more than slightly warm. Medium warm, but not hot. After a time, it cooled off. The bottle was a 4 ounce dropper bottle with the rubber bulb. No glass or plastic dropper tube was installed in the rubber bulb. The bottle was about 90% full. 12 hours later, the bottle was about 20 % full. The top was screwed on with a reasonable tension. Can anyone offer and facts as to what happened? I have 16 ounces of the CS and more of the DMSO. Should I see if this will happen again? Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSStrange Reaction
Yesterday I made a 16 oz batch of CS using virtually the same methods I have used before. In the past, I have used the 27 volt LVDC generator, with 2 small 12 volt batteries connected in series. This would be 51 VDC, virtually the same as the telephone generator I am testing. I used no saline. Added about 1 oz CS from a previous batch. ( 16 oz batch ) The color is lemon, or pale yellow and tastes bitter. The time on this batch was about 3.5 hours. After determining that the batch was ok, ( or so I thought ) I used a four ounce bottle and mixed 50-50 with DMSO for a fungicide treatment to be used for toenail fungus. Even thru the brown bottle, I could see strange things happening. Plus a noticable warming effect was noticed. The bottle did not get hot, but it was more than slightly warm. Medium warm, but not hot. After a time, it cooled off. The bottle was a 4 ounce dropper bottle with the rubber bulb. No glass or plastic dropper tube was installed in the rubber bulb. The bottle was about 90% full. 12 hours later, the bottle was about 20 % full. The top was screwed on with a reasonable tension. Can anyone offer and facts as to what happened? I have 16 ounces of the CS and more of the DMSO. Should I see if this will happen again? Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSre: Re: CSStrange Reaction
I just mixed a 50-50 solution of DMSO and CS, and got the same warming effect. My CS was clear and the resultant solution was clear. Steve ** Original Subject: Re: CSStrange Reaction ** Original Sender: Daniel Hernandez godismyjudge...@juno.com ** Original Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 19:40:50 + ** Original Message follows... This is most bizzar, Try it again and see what happens. Let us know. Daniel On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 11:31:05 -0500 Wayne Fugitt wa...@fugitt.com writes: Yesterday I made a 16 oz batch of CS using virtually the same methods I have used before. In the past, I have used the 27 volt LVDC generator, with 2 small 12 volt batteries connected in series. This would be 51 VDC, virtually the same as the telephone generator I am testing. I used no saline. Added about 1 oz CS from a previous batch. ( 16 oz batch ) The color is lemon, or pale yellow and tastes bitter. The time on this batch was about 3.5 hours. After determining that the batch was ok, ( or so I thought ) I used a four ounce bottle and mixed 50-50 with DMSO for a fungicide treatment to be used for toenail fungus. Even thru the brown bottle, I could see strange things happening. Plus a noticable warming effect was noticed. The bottle did not get hot, but it was more than slightly warm. Medium warm, but not hot. After a time, it cooled off. The bottle was a 4 ounce dropper bottle with the rubber bulb. No glass or plastic dropper tube was installed in the rubber bulb. The bottle was about 90% full. 12 hours later, the bottle was about 20 % full. The top was screwed on with a reasonable tension. Can anyone offer and facts as to what happened? I have 16 ounces of the CS and more of the DMSO. Should I see if this will happen again? Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com ** - End Original Message --- **
Re: CSStrange Reaction
This is most bizzar, Try it again and see what happens. Let us know. Daniel On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 11:31:05 -0500 Wayne Fugitt wa...@fugitt.com writes: Yesterday I made a 16 oz batch of CS using virtually the same methods I have used before. In the past, I have used the 27 volt LVDC generator, with 2 small 12 volt batteries connected in series. This would be 51 VDC, virtually the same as the telephone generator I am testing. I used no saline. Added about 1 oz CS from a previous batch. ( 16 oz batch ) The color is lemon, or pale yellow and tastes bitter. The time on this batch was about 3.5 hours. After determining that the batch was ok, ( or so I thought ) I used a four ounce bottle and mixed 50-50 with DMSO for a fungicide treatment to be used for toenail fungus. Even thru the brown bottle, I could see strange things happening. Plus a noticable warming effect was noticed. The bottle did not get hot, but it was more than slightly warm. Medium warm, but not hot. After a time, it cooled off. The bottle was a 4 ounce dropper bottle with the rubber bulb. No glass or plastic dropper tube was installed in the rubber bulb. The bottle was about 90% full. 12 hours later, the bottle was about 20 % full. The top was screwed on with a reasonable tension. Can anyone offer and facts as to what happened? I have 16 ounces of the CS and more of the DMSO. Should I see if this will happen again? Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com