CSWater distiller.

[Ron]

I think this has SS coil. Not sure.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Water-Distiller-Countertop-Stainless-Steel-Glass-Container-Vegavita-/191421452502

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Re: CSWater distiller.

[Ron]

I just noticed that it says New condition.

Ron

On 1/19/2015 1:51 PM, Ron wrote:

I think this has SS coil. Not sure.
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CSWater distiller - recommedations?

[jenny goodhealth]

Looking for a reasonably priced, good-quality water distiller in U.S. or Canada 
for supplying1 - 1.5 gallons of distilled water a day. 

Any recommendations on brand, materials, filter cost  where to purchase, etc.? 
 Thanks. 

Jen -

RE: CSWater distiller - recommedations?

[Scott Adams]

I have bought this in 2009 and have been very happy with it
http://www.amazon.com/Water-Distiller-Countertop-Enamel-Collection/dp/B00026
F9F8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8
http://www.amazon.com/Water-Distiller-Countertop-Enamel-Collection/dp/B0002
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Looking for a reasonably priced, good-quality water distiller in U.S. or
Canada for supplying1 - 1.5 gallons of distilled water a day. 

 

Any recommendations on brand, materials, filter cost  where to purchase,
etc.?  Thanks. 

 

Jen -

 

 

CSWater Distiller for CS

[Paula Samuels Anthis]

OK you Wise Ones, I'm not super swift in action, yet I will get there, but only 
with your help. 
 
Previously on this site it was noted that home steam distilled water was better 
for making CS/EIS than bottled and that several of you liked your Love 
distiller.
 
Question - Which model Love?  Possibly the Model 4 with full stainless steel 
interior and glass collection jar?
 
From whom did you purchase your Love or other distiller?  
 
How long have you used it without problem?
 
Has it functioned well?
 
Do you use only for CS/EIS or for drinking water needs also?
 
If you had a problem with a Love, did your dealer assist appropriately?
 
Thanks you ALL for your illustrious info and incredible attitudes I am gleaning 
from this adventurous group.
 
Paula 
 
    
   
 



  

CSwater distiller

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I have got my own distiller now and have done one batch which produced one 
yellow solution of CS.  This happened, I think, because I let it run over the 
automated time, because the next lot out of the same batch of distilled water, 
seems to be ok.  However, I got a jug filter for the next lot I distilled and 
filtered the water through that first before I put it in the distiller.  The 
result was that the TDS meter read 002 whereas the first batch read 000.  Can 
anyone tell me why this should have happened?  Thanks.  dee

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Re: CSwater distiller

[Ode Coyote]

  The bitter taste is normal for silver water...and the stronger it is, 
the more bitter.
 That flavor is highly subjective and changes with what happens to be 
coating the taste buds.

 You also might taste it really strong one day and not the next.
 If, for instance, you drank milk in the last half hour, the CS [EIS] will 
taste really FUNKY.

..or if you drink milk after using EIS...the milk will taste funky.

Ode



At 05:19 PM 11/6/2009 +, you wrote:

Thanks Ode, I have done the two first batches which have to be thrown,
and I had a taste of one.  It took about five and a half hours whereas
it took 6 and a half from cold.  I must say I didn't like it much -
just the same as I didn't like the one I used to buy.  It has a bitter
sort of taste, not like tap water at all.  I tested it with the TDS
meter though, and it says 000 just the same as the one I buy, so
hopefully it will be fine for CS.  Don't think I'd drink it though!  dee



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RE: CSwater distiller

[Neville Munn]

Same applies if you're a smoker as well.
 
N.
 
 Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 07:04:10 -0500
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 From: odecoy...@windstream.net
 Subject: Re: CSwater distiller
 
 
 
 The bitter taste is normal for silver water...and the stronger it is, 
 the more bitter.
 That flavor is highly subjective and changes with what happens to be 
 coating the taste buds.
 You also might taste it really strong one day and not the next.
 If, for instance, you drank milk in the last half hour, the CS [EIS] will 
 taste really FUNKY.
 ..or if you drink milk after using EIS...the milk will taste funky.
 
 Ode
 
 
 
 At 05:19 PM 11/6/2009 +, you wrote:
 Thanks Ode, I have done the two first batches which have to be thrown,
 and I had a taste of one. It took about five and a half hours whereas
 it took 6 and a half from cold. I must say I didn't like it much -
 just the same as I didn't like the one I used to buy. It has a bitter
 sort of taste, not like tap water at all. I tested it with the TDS
 meter though, and it says 000 just the same as the one I buy, so
 hopefully it will be fine for CS. Don't think I'd drink it though! dee
 
 
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Re: CSwater distiller

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Mind you, this is just the water Ode, before the CS is in it.  But the  
bought DW is the same and reads the same on the TDS meter, so I'm  
hoping that when I make the CS it will be ok.  dee


On 7 Nov 2009, at 12:04, Ode Coyote wrote:




 The bitter taste is normal for silver water...and the stronger it  
is, the more bitter.
That flavor is highly subjective and changes with what happens to be  
coating the taste buds.

You also might taste it really strong one day and not the next.
If, for instance, you drank milk in the last half hour, the CS [EIS]  
will taste really FUNKY.

..or if you drink milk after using EIS...the milk will taste funky.

Ode



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Re: CSwater distiller

[Ode Coyote]

  Using hot water to start actually speeds things up without being 
detrimental to the finish...the water cools off before temperature can play 
a role.
 Anything below about 120 deg F doesn't seem to have too much kinetic 
energy in it, making particles collide with each other  and ions oxidize fast.
 Of course, at first, there are very few ions or particles TO 
collide...which is why it goes so slow at first...nothing much there to 
transport the electricity either.


Ode



At 07:54 PM 11/5/2009 +, you wrote:

just to say I have just received my new OdeV water distiller (plus
correct lead lol) and have done one batch.  It has taken six hours
but I think if I put in hot water from the kettle this could cut this
time down a bit.  I am anxiously watching the electric meter here and
it is blipping quite fast!  I have to do another trial run to make
sure there isn't any oil residue left and then I can start making my
water for CS.  Does anyone know if it would be detrimental to use hot
water?  thanks.  dee


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Re: CSwater distiller

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Thanks Ode, I have done the two first batches which have to be thrown,  
and I had a taste of one.  It took about five and a half hours whereas  
it took 6 and a half from cold.  I must say I didn't like it much -  
just the same as I didn't like the one I used to buy.  It has a bitter  
sort of taste, not like tap water at all.  I tested it with the TDS  
meter though, and it says 000 just the same as the one I buy, so  
hopefully it will be fine for CS.  Don't think I'd drink it though!  dee


On 6 Nov 2009, at 09:44, Ode Coyote wrote:




 Using hot water to start actually speeds things up without being  
detrimental to the finish...the water cools off before temperature  
can play a role.
Anything below about 120 deg F doesn't seem to have too much kinetic  
energy in it, making particles collide with each other  and ions  
oxidize fast.
Of course, at first, there are very few ions or particles TO  
collide...which is why it goes so slow at first...nothing much there  
to transport the electricity either.


Ode






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Re: CSwater distiller

[Kirsteen Wright]

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 5:19 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote:

 .  Don't think I'd drink it though!  dee


 No, I have to admit i wouldn't choose it as drinking water. i just use
filtered tap water for that.

Cheers
Kirsteen

RE: CSwater distiller (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC]

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I use hot water all the time, my hot water is Gas Fired which 
Is cheaper to heat then Electric.

Bob


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CSwater distiller

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

just to say I have just received my new OdeV water distiller (plus  
correct lead lol) and have done one batch.  It has taken six hours  
but I think if I put in hot water from the kettle this could cut this  
time down a bit.  I am anxiously watching the electric meter here and  
it is blipping quite fast!  I have to do another trial run to make  
sure there isn't any oil residue left and then I can start making my  
water for CS.  Does anyone know if it would be detrimental to use hot  
water?  thanks.  dee



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CSwater distiller

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Hi Kirsteen, just to let you know I have taken the plunge and ordered  
the OdeV water distiller!  I'll let you know how it goes in due  
course.  dee



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Re: CSwater distiller (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Ode Coyote]

 The assembly is added value over the parts and the parts added value over 
the raw materials.

 Any time you do anything, it has a value added.
 But with a 50 pound limit, if you do it real slow, you get to keep your 
efforts.


 VAT sucks like a Hoover adding the value of negative pressure to the air 
itself.


Grounds for hanging a few politicians, if you ask me...but another one 
would just tax the swing because losing one adds value to the society.

 Funny that most of them are lawyers.
 Whelp, You can buy enough powder to blow one to Hell for less than 50 
pounds..but that adds 500 pounds of value.


 Can't win.

Ode

At 12:42 PM 10/27/2009 -0500, you wrote:

If you were importing a Colloidal Silver maker, you could buy one of
the units which is merely a battery, leads, resistor, and some silver
electrodes.  You could argue that there was really no value added, so
it should be exempt from the tax...

Dan

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote:
 I think it has to have VAT added if its over something like £50 Bob - 
in the

 UK that is.  dee

 On 27 Oct 2009, at 10:55, Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC wrote:

 Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
 Caveats: NONE

 If you know someone out of Country can they send you something without
 paying Taxes (as a gift).
 Even if you pay them on the side. See below for $79.

 Bob



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Re: CSwater distiller (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

No, it was a distiller.  dee

On 27 Oct 2009, at 17:42, Dan Nave wrote:


If you were importing a Colloidal Silver maker, you could buy one of
the units which is merely a battery, leads, resistor, and some silver
electrodes.  You could argue that there was really no value added, so
it should be exempt from the tax...

Dan




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Re: CSwater distiller (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

You never said a truer word Ode, you can't win,  there's always  
someone waiting to take the hard earned money from you, to make their  
lives easier i.e. politicians expenses over here springs to mind!  dee


On 28 Oct 2009, at 11:00, Ode Coyote wrote:




The assembly is added value over the parts and the parts added value  
over the raw materials.

Any time you do anything, it has a value added.
But with a 50 pound limit, if you do it real slow, you get to keep  
your efforts.


VAT sucks like a Hoover adding the value of negative pressure to the  
air itself.


Grounds for hanging a few politicians, if you ask me...but another  
one would just tax the swing because losing one adds value to the  
society.

Funny that most of them are lawyers.
Whelp, You can buy enough powder to blow one to Hell for less than  
50 pounds..but that adds 500 pounds of value.


Can't win.

Ode




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FW: CSwater distiller (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC]

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

If you know someone out of Country can they send you something without
paying Taxes (as a gift).
Even if you pay them on the side. See below for $79.

Bob



$79 is cheapest I found
http://www.we-beat-prices.com/


 Didn't someone post a home made version not too long ago.

 It's just boiling water with a collection plate that channels the
 condensing steam into a collection bottle.

 Garnet

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 Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
 The thing is Garnet, I am in the UK and these although reasonable  
 in the US end up costing the earth with postage and then our tax,  
 and some just do not deliver here either.  You've also got the time  
 it takes to get here too to think about.  Thanks for the info. dee
 On 26 Oct 2009, at 16:26, Garnet wrote:
 The one gallon counter top distillers are all made by the
 same company, at least all of the ones that I have seen
 on line. Sears actually used to carry them. Some of the
 online dealers sell them for as much as $349, most sell
 them for $249. I have only seen two places sell them
 for $129, now. I paid $99 for mine five or six years ago.

 You can email the guy at Wholesale Water Distillers,
 he has a lot of info and has the best prices I have seen.

 Garnet

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Re: CSwater distiller

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

yes, I put hot water in the kettle with the citric acid, but I have to  
say, that it worked better than any vinegar I have used, and in  
minutes too!  dee


On 26 Oct 2009, at 20:09, Marshall Dudley wrote:

Citric acid can be used to unmineralize pipes and pans, but is not  
as fast as acetic acid, and also generally requires heat, whereas  
acetic acid will work at room temperature abet much slower.


Marshall




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Re: CSwater distiller

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I suppose that could be just a glitch on the particular one you have,  
but not a problem anyway.  Thanks again.  dee


On 26 Oct 2009, at 20:35, Kirsteen Wright wrote:




On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick  
d...@deetroy.org wrote:
This looks good Kirsteen.  Are you pleased with it and how long does  
it take to make 4litres?  (sorry if you've said all this before)  dee



Hi Dee

Don't worry about asking, it's no problem. On the whole I'm really  
pleased with it, I just find the switch a bit of a nuisance. It's  
meant to be a sort of touch switch but I usually end up having to  
take a knife handle to press on the right spot.


I think it's about 4 or 5 hours. I'm not sure as i often put it on  
when I'm going to bed as it's got an automatic cut-off when it's  
empty.


Cheers
Kirsteen

Re: CSwater distiller (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I think it has to have VAT added if its over something like £50 Bob -  
in the UK that is.  dee


On 27 Oct 2009, at 10:55, Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC wrote:


Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE

If you know someone out of Country can they send you something without
paying Taxes (as a gift).
Even if you pay them on the side. See below for $79.

Bob



$79 is cheapest I found
http://www.we-beat-prices.com/





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Re: CSwater distiller (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Dan Nave]

If you were importing a Colloidal Silver maker, you could buy one of
the units which is merely a battery, leads, resistor, and some silver
electrodes.  You could argue that there was really no value added, so
it should be exempt from the tax...

Dan

On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote:
 I think it has to have VAT added if its over something like £50 Bob - in the
 UK that is.  dee

 On 27 Oct 2009, at 10:55, Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC wrote:

 Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
 Caveats: NONE

 If you know someone out of Country can they send you something without
 paying Taxes (as a gift).
 Even if you pay them on the side. See below for $79.

 Bob



 $79 is cheapest I found
 http://www.we-beat-prices.com/




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CSwater distiller

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Hi all, just a question about water distillers - table top variety.   
Do you have to keep filling it up, or is there a way of adding water  
automatically.  TIA dee



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Re: CSwater distiller

[Kirsteen Wright]

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.orgwrote:

 Hi all, just a question about water distillers - table top variety.  Do you
 have to keep filling it up, or is there a way of adding water automatically.
  TIA dee


 Mine automatically switches itself off when it's done, then I open it and
refill it.  There's no way to open it when it's working as you have to
unplug the cable between base and lid to take the lid off.

cheers
Kirsteen

Re: CSwater distiller

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

what make is yours Kirsteen, although I know you have probably  said  
before.  I was looking at a Megahome at JD Harris.  I don't know if  
the innards of it are stainless steel though, which I believe they are  
supposed to be.  dee


On 26 Oct 2009, at 09:33, Kirsteen Wright wrote:




On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick  
d...@deetroy.org wrote:
Hi all, just a question about water distillers - table top variety.   
Do you have to keep filling it up, or is there a way of adding water  
automatically.  TIA dee



Mine automatically switches itself off when it's done, then I open  
it and refill it.  There's no way to open it when it's working as  
you have to unplug the cable between base and lid to take the lid off.


cheers
Kirsteen

Re: CSwater distiller

[Garnet]

The one gallon counter top that I bought from Wholesale 
Water Distillers
has to be refilled each time. And there is sediment, 
depending on how
much mineral is in your water to begin with, that has to be 
rinsed or wiped
out between batches. Every so many I clean the stuck on 
sediment that

will not rinse or wipe out with hot water and vinegar.

The frequency of cleaning will vary with your water. I add 
about  one
cup of white vinegar and fill it with water, then use a 
dinner plate as the
top I plug it in and let it heat. You do not want to use the 
top of the
distiller for the cleaning cycle. This cleans all the 
sediment and it is good

for about 10 gallons before the sediment gets too thick again.

It mostly develops spots that stick on and will not wipe 
off. These must
be cleaned periodically to prevent damage to the stainless 
steel line if

they build up too thick.

If you can find 9% pickling vinegar you don't have to use as 
much as

the common 5% white vinegar and saves you some money and trouble
buying extra vinegar. I buy a gallon at a time and use it 
for other house

hold cleaning.

Garnet

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Hi all, just a question about water distillers - table top variety.  Do 
you have to keep filling it up, or is there a way of adding water 
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Re: CSwater distiller

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

thank you for the info Garnet, I buy white vinegar from Dri-Pak which  
I use round the house anyway.  But of course here in the UK you cannot  
get it in anything other than spray bottles (in my experience)  this  
is the proper white vinegar, not the distilled one.  I expect I shall  
have a lot of cleaning to do as our water is really hard here.  I was  
wondering if citric acid would be ok to use because this cleaned my  
kettle out of all the crud that was in  it and left it absolutely  
sparkling!  dee


On 26 Oct 2009, at 13:59, Garnet wrote:

The one gallon counter top that I bought from Wholesale Water  
Distillers

has to be refilled each time. And there is sediment, depending on how
much mineral is in your water to begin with, that has to be rinsed  
or wiped

out between batches. Every so many I clean the stuck on sediment that
will not rinse or wipe out with hot water and vinegar.

The frequency of cleaning will vary with your water. I add about  one
cup of white vinegar and fill it with water, then use a dinner plate  
as the
top I plug it in and let it heat. You do not want to use the top of  
the
distiller for the cleaning cycle. This cleans all the sediment and  
it is good

for about 10 gallons before the sediment gets too thick again.

It mostly develops spots that stick on and will not wipe off. These  
must
be cleaned periodically to prevent damage to the stainless steel  
line if

they build up too thick.

If you can find 9% pickling vinegar you don't have to use as much as
the common 5% white vinegar and saves you some money and trouble
buying extra vinegar. I buy a gallon at a time and use it for other  
house

hold cleaning.

Garnet




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Re: CSwater distiller

[Garnet]

Citric should be fine. Any weak acid will remove the hard water
sediment.

I use pickling vinegar because it is cheap. It does not 
matter if
it is distilled since it is not being consumed. I do avoid 
the fumes

though, from any vinegar, because they will give me a headache.

Garnet

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Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
thank you for the info Garnet, I buy white vinegar from Dri-Pak which I 
use round the house anyway.  But of course here in the UK you cannot get 
it in anything other than spray bottles (in my experience)  this is the 
proper white vinegar, not the distilled one.  I expect I shall have a 
lot of cleaning to do as our water is really hard here.  I was wondering 
if citric acid would be ok to use because this cleaned my kettle out of 
all the crud that was in  it and left it absolutely sparkling!  dee


On 26 Oct 2009, at 13:59, Garnet wrote:


The one gallon counter top that I bought from Wholesale Water Distillers
has to be refilled each time. And there is sediment, depending on how
much mineral is in your water to begin with, that has to be rinsed or 
wiped

out between batches. Every so many I clean the stuck on sediment that
will not rinse or wipe out with hot water and vinegar.

The frequency of cleaning will vary with your water. I add about  one
cup of white vinegar and fill it with water, then use a dinner plate 
as the

top I plug it in and let it heat. You do not want to use the top of the
distiller for the cleaning cycle. This cleans all the sediment and it 
is good

for about 10 gallons before the sediment gets too thick again.

It mostly develops spots that stick on and will not wipe off. These must
be cleaned periodically to prevent damage to the stainless steel line if
they build up too thick.

If you can find 9% pickling vinegar you don't have to use as much as
the common 5% white vinegar and saves you some money and trouble
buying extra vinegar. I buy a gallon at a time and use it for other house
hold cleaning.

Garnet




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Re: CSwater distiller

[Kirsteen Wright]

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.orgwrote:

 what make is yours Kirsteen, although I know you have probably  said
 before.


Hi, it's actualy on top of the cabinets right now and i can't reach it but
I'm pretty sure it's called OdeV. I've seen several others online and they
all look pretty similar.

cheers
Kirsteen

Re: CSwater distiller

[Garnet]

The one gallon counter top distillers are all made by the
same company, at least all of the ones that I have seen
on line. Sears actually used to carry them. Some of the
online dealers sell them for as much as $349, most sell
them for $249. I have only seen two places sell them
for $129, now. I paid $99 for mine five or six years ago.

You can email the guy at Wholesale Water Distillers,
he has a lot of info and has the best prices I have seen.

Garnet

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Kirsteen Wright wrote:



On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org 
mailto:d...@deetroy.org wrote:


what make is yours Kirsteen, although I know you have probably  said
before. 



Hi, it's actualy on top of the cabinets right now and i can't reach it 
but I'm pretty sure it's called OdeV. I've seen several others online 
and they all look pretty similar.


cheers
Kirsteen




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Re: CSwater distiller

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

This looks good Kirsteen.  Are you pleased with it and how long does  
it take to make 4litres?  (sorry if you've said all this before)  dee


On 26 Oct 2009, at 16:15, Kirsteen Wright wrote:




On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick  
d...@deetroy.org wrote:
what make is yours Kirsteen, although I know you have probably  said  
before.


Hi, it's actualy on top of the cabinets right now and i can't reach  
it but I'm pretty sure it's called OdeV. I've seen several others  
online and they all look pretty similar.


cheers
Kirsteen

Re: CSwater distiller

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

The thing is Garnet, I am in the UK and these although reasonable in  
the US end up costing the earth with postage and then our tax, and  
some just do not deliver here either.  You've also got the time it  
takes to get here too to think about.  Thanks for the info. dee


On 26 Oct 2009, at 16:26, Garnet wrote:


The one gallon counter top distillers are all made by the
same company, at least all of the ones that I have seen
on line. Sears actually used to carry them. Some of the
online dealers sell them for as much as $349, most sell
them for $249. I have only seen two places sell them
for $129, now. I paid $99 for mine five or six years ago.

You can email the guy at Wholesale Water Distillers,
he has a lot of info and has the best prices I have seen.

Garnet




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Re: CSwater distiller

[Garnet]

Didn't someone post a home made version not too long ago.

It's just boiling water with a collection plate that 
channels the

condensing steam into a collection bottle.

Garnet

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Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
The thing is Garnet, I am in the UK and these although reasonable in the 
US end up costing the earth with postage and then our tax, and some just 
do not deliver here either.  You've also got the time it takes to get 
here too to think about.  Thanks for the info. dee


On 26 Oct 2009, at 16:26, Garnet wrote:


The one gallon counter top distillers are all made by the
same company, at least all of the ones that I have seen
on line. Sears actually used to carry them. Some of the
online dealers sell them for as much as $349, most sell
them for $249. I have only seen two places sell them
for $129, now. I paid $99 for mine five or six years ago.

You can email the guy at Wholesale Water Distillers,
he has a lot of info and has the best prices I have seen.

Garnet




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Re: CSwater distiller

[Marshall Dudley]

Citric acid can be used to unmineralize pipes and pans, but is not as 
fast as acetic acid, and also generally requires heat, whereas acetic 
acid will work at room temperature abet much slower.


Marshall

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
thank you for the info Garnet, I buy white vinegar from Dri-Pak which 
I use round the house anyway.  But of course here in the UK you cannot 
get it in anything other than spray bottles (in my experience)  this 
is the proper white vinegar, not the distilled one.  I expect I shall 
have a lot of cleaning to do as our water is really hard here.  I was 
wondering if citric acid would be ok to use because this cleaned my 
kettle out of all the crud that was in  it and left it absolutely 
sparkling!  dee


On 26 Oct 2009, at 13:59, Garnet wrote:


The one gallon counter top that I bought from Wholesale Water Distillers
has to be refilled each time. And there is sediment, depending on how
much mineral is in your water to begin with, that has to be rinsed or 
wiped

out between batches. Every so many I clean the stuck on sediment that
will not rinse or wipe out with hot water and vinegar.

The frequency of cleaning will vary with your water. I add about  one
cup of white vinegar and fill it with water, then use a dinner plate 
as the

top I plug it in and let it heat. You do not want to use the top of the
distiller for the cleaning cycle. This cleans all the sediment and it 
is good

for about 10 gallons before the sediment gets too thick again.

It mostly develops spots that stick on and will not wipe off. These must
be cleaned periodically to prevent damage to the stainless steel line if
they build up too thick.

If you can find 9% pickling vinegar you don't have to use as much as
the common 5% white vinegar and saves you some money and trouble
buying extra vinegar. I buy a gallon at a time and use it for other 
house

hold cleaning.

Garnet




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Re: CSwater distiller

[Kirsteen Wright]

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 6:10 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.orgwrote:

 This looks good Kirsteen.  Are you pleased with it and how long does it
 take to make 4litres?  (sorry if you've said all this before)  dee


 Hi Dee

Don't worry about asking, it's no problem. On the whole I'm really pleased
with it, I just find the switch a bit of a nuisance. It's meant to be a sort
of touch switch but I usually end up having to take a knife handle to press
on the right spot.

I think it's about 4 or 5 hours. I'm not sure as i often put it on when I'm
going to bed as it's got an automatic cut-off when it's empty.

Cheers
Kirsteen

Re: CSwater distiller

[ATOMICSILVER]

would like to see home made version ..please !
On 26/10/2009, at 12:47, Garnet wrote:


Didn't someone post a home made version not too long ago.

It's just boiling water with a collection plate that channels the
condensing steam into a collection bottle.

Garnet

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA


Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
The thing is Garnet, I am in the UK and these although reasonable  
in the US end up costing the earth with postage and then our tax,  
and some just do not deliver here either.  You've also got the time  
it takes to get here too to think about.  Thanks for the info. dee

On 26 Oct 2009, at 16:26, Garnet wrote:

The one gallon counter top distillers are all made by the
same company, at least all of the ones that I have seen
on line. Sears actually used to carry them. Some of the
online dealers sell them for as much as $349, most sell
them for $249. I have only seen two places sell them
for $129, now. I paid $99 for mine five or six years ago.

You can email the guy at Wholesale Water Distillers,
he has a lot of info and has the best prices I have seen.

Garnet


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Re: CSwater distiller

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Sorry sol, I should have said Cell Food, but I have used the Bioplasma  
cell salts as well.  dee


On 28 Jul 2009, at 05:26, sol wrote:

Oh, I see now. Not the same thing at all. Mine are homeopathic cell  
salts in the Hyland's brand called bioplasma.

http://www.iherb.com/Hyland-s-Bioplasma-1000-Tablets/4977?at=0
sol

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
Mine are the ones that were causing a bit of controversy here on  
the list last week!  They are called Cell Salts by NuScience



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Re: CSwater distiller

[sol]

Oh, I see now. Not the same thing at all. Mine are homeopathic cell 
salts in the Hyland's brand called bioplasma.

http://www.iherb.com/Hyland-s-Bioplasma-1000-Tablets/4977?at=0
sol

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
Mine are the ones that were causing a bit of controversy here on the 
list last week!  They are called Cell Salts by NuScience 



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Re: CSwater distiller

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Mine are the ones that were causing a bit of controversy here on the  
list last week!  They are called Cell Salts by NuScience and I don't  
think they have any taste to speak of except maybe to be salty!  They  
just taste of lemon in distilled water - at least to me.  Maybe you  
would get a different taste perhaps?  dee


On 25 Jul 2009, at 19:01, sol wrote:

Same here, except my DH and I are opposite you and yours, I love my  
distilled, and he thinks it is awful. He drinks double filtered tap  
water, and I literally cannot.
I also can't drink tea or coffee or any other beverage made with tap  
water, single or double filtered.
I haven't tried cell salts dissolved in any kind of water, but it  
would be an interesting taste test. I take them under the tongue,  
and mine don't taste of lemon, maybe we are talking about different  
products? My cell salts are Hyland's.

sol

Re: CSwater distiller

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Do you know what sol?  I think it is not so much the taste of the  
fluid but our own taste buds!  I came to this conclusion because my  
hubby and I can eat or drink the same substance and get two completely  
different tastes from it!  My distilled water comes straight from the  
bottle and I have to say, that both of us think it tastes ghastly!  It  
also makes me thirsty.  Yet I had a friend over who doesn't drink tea  
or coffee and she tried it and thought it was really good!  My husband  
thinks our tap water is foul, whereas I think it tastes all right, so  
there we go.  Also, if I put my cell salts into tap water, there is no  
taste to speak of, but if I put them into distilled water, they taste  
really strongly of lemon!   Someone said somewhere that it is the  
things our bodies need that causes the difference in taste, so who  
knows?  dee

On 24 Jul 2009, at 21:38, sol wrote:

Do you use the charcoal post filter? I don't use them, and my  
distilled water tastes wonderful, clean and fresh. Now, any other  
water tastes foul to me, like I can taste every awful chemical in  
it, even double filtered water and bottled water.

sol

Re: CSwater distiller

[sol]

Same here, except my DH and I are opposite you and yours, I love my 
distilled, and he thinks it is awful. He drinks double filtered tap 
water, and I literally cannot.
I also can't drink tea or coffee or any other beverage made with tap 
water, single or double filtered.
I haven't tried cell salts dissolved in any kind of water, but it would 
be an interesting taste test. I take them under the tongue, and mine 
don't taste of lemon, maybe we are talking about different products? My 
cell salts are Hyland's.

sol


Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
 I think it is not so much the taste of the fluid but our own taste 
buds!  I came to this conclusion because my hubby and I can eat or 
drink the same substance and get two completely different tastes from 
it!  My distilled water comes straight from the bottle and I have to 
say, that both of us think it tastes ghastly!  It also makes me 
thirsty.  Yet I had a friend over who doesn't drink tea or coffee and 
she tried it and thought it was really good!  My husband thinks our 
tap water is foul, whereas I think it tastes all right, so there we go. 



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Re: CSwater distiller

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

That actually looks like the Genii Kirsteen.  Water Distiller -  
jdharris.co.uk which is where I saw it.  About the same price too.  My  
distilled water which costs a lot of money (double distilled) also has  
a horrible taste so maybe its because everything has been removed from  
it?  dee


On 23 Jul 2009, at 20:08, Kirsteen Wright wrote:




On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick  
d...@deetroy.org wrote:
Good idea but I wasn't sure if you could do this.  Do you have a  
similar model to the Genii then Kirsty, as I would like to know what  
you think of it.


I can't find the Genie anywhere but I have an O de V like this one  
here.


http://stores.vitality4life.co.uk/Items/water_distiller_odevwd717?caSKU=water_distiller_odevwd717caTitle=Water%20Distiller%20Odev%20WD717

It does the job, it's not fantastic - the water has a funny flat  
taste after filtering, I don't know if that's normal but I wouldn't  
want to drink it for taste. What really drives me up the wall is the  
on switch. There's no actual switch - you just press in on a certain  
point. No matter what I do, I have to get my son to switch it on.  
But hey it works.


Cheers
Kirsteen

Re: CSwater distiller

[sol]

Do you use the charcoal post filter? I don't use them, and my distilled
water tastes wonderful, clean and fresh. Now, any other water tastes
foul to me, like I can taste every awful chemical in it, even double
filtered water and bottled water.
sol

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
That actually looks like the Genii Kirsteen. Water
Distiller - jdharris.co.ukwhich is where I saw it. About the same
price too. My distilled water which costs a lot of money (double
distilled) also has a horrible taste so maybe its because everything
has been removed from it? dee





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Re: CSwater distiller

[Kirsteen Wright]

On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.orgwrote:

   On reading the specification, it says it comes with charcoal filters.
  Now, I seem to have read somewhere that filters are not advisable to use
 with EIS.


Hi Dee

What I do is filter my water before I put it in the distiller and then I
just removed the charcoal filter from my distiller and let the water come
straight out.

cheers
Kirsteen

Re: CSwater distiller

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Yes, it boils the water Scott, and then it cools in a stainless steel  
coil or something and then goes through a charcoal filter.  It is this  
bit which I am not sure about.  dee


On 22 Jul 2009, at 22:25, Scotty wrote:

That is what I too have heard. Does the Genie 11 produce steam  
distilled water or is it all done through filtration?


Scott 
With God, all things are possible. - Mark 10:27






--- On Wed, 7/22/09, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote:

Re: CSwater distiller

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Good idea but I wasn't sure if you could do this.  Do you have a  
similar model to the Genii then Kirsty, as I would like to know what  
you think of it.  I cannot afford one of the expensive ones and  
thought this looked good.  dee


On 23 Jul 2009, at 09:42, Kirsteen Wright wrote:




On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick  
d...@deetroy.org wrote:
  On reading the specification, it says it comes with charcoal  
filters.  Now, I seem to have read somewhere that filters are not  
advisable to use with EIS.


Hi Dee

What I do is filter my water before I put it in the distiller and  
then I just removed the charcoal filter from my distiller and let  
the water come straight out.


cheers
Kirsteen

Re: CSwater distiller

[Kirsteen Wright]

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.orgwrote:

 Good idea but I wasn't sure if you could do this.  Do you have a similar
 model to the Genii then Kirsty, as I would like to know what you think of
 it.


I can't find the Genie anywhere but I have an O de V like this one here.

http://stores.vitality4life.co.uk/Items/water_distiller_odevwd717?caSKU=water_distiller_odevwd717caTitle=Water%20Distiller%20Odev%20WD717

It does the job, it's not fantastic - the water has a funny flat taste after
filtering, I don't know if that's normal but I wouldn't want to drink it for
taste. What really drives me up the wall is the on switch. There's no actual
switch - you just press in on a certain point. No matter what I do, I have
to get my son to switch it on. But hey it works.

Cheers
Kirsteen

CSwater distiller

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Hi folks, I'm thinking of getting my own counter top distiller and am  
looking at the Genie 11 which I can get here in the UK.  On reading  
the specification, it says it comes with charcoal filters.  Now, I  
seem to have read somewhere that filters are not advisable to use with  
EIS.  Can anyone give me any advice?  Thanks.  dee

Re: CSwater distiller

[Scotty]

That is what I too have heard. Does the Genie 11 produce steam distilled water 
or is it all done through filtration?

Scott 
With God, all things are possible. - Mark 10:27



 


--- On Wed, 7/22/09, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote:


From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
Subject: CSwater distiller
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 8:57 AM


Hi folks, I'm thinking of getting my own counter top distiller and am looking 
at the Genie 11 which I can get here in the UK.  On reading the specification, 
it says it comes with charcoal filters.  Now, I seem to have read somewhere 
that filters are not advisable to use with EIS.  Can anyone give me any advice? 
 Thanks.  dee


  

Re: CSwater distiller question

[Ode Coyote]

You are on the averaged billing plan then...it's not a flat rate and the 
3 KW to distil a gallon of water is like 30 cents or so.


Tel points out maintenances issues, but using charcoal filtered rain water 
as the source water should alleviate that to a great degree.
 A distiller that doesn't boil the water would be better too..like a solar 
still [free energy] or vacuum still.



Ode


Yep we do. I think Dee's like me. I pay a flat rate by direct debit 
monthly. For this I get a slightly cheaper rate but it's still metered and 
at least once a year the monthly amount is adjusted depending on how much 
I've been using.


Cheers
Kirsteen



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Re: CSwater distiller question

[Ode Coyote]

  If you are paying a flat rate for power and gas, it could well be that 
the energy cost of distilling your water will be free. [to you]
The rate isn't likely to be stacked in your favor, but even if you use more 
than usual, it's still the same cost to you with who pays the difference 
the only question.


Don't people have power and gas meters on houses in the UK?

Ode



At 06:59 PM 7/16/2009 +0100, you wrote:
I think it wouldn't be that cheap here Ode.  I pay in advance for my 
electricity and it costs me £50 per month!  The gas is £120 per month so 
all in all, it is crippling.  Dee


---Original Message---

From: mailto:odecoy...@windstream.netOde Coyote
Date: 16/07/2009 15:59:01
To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSwater distiller question


   Try 68 cents a gallon sometimes.

Company sells you electricity by the kilowatt; the average kilowatt cost is
about 8-10 cents. Since the distiller will use three kilowatt hours to make
a gallon of water the cost is about 24 cents per gallon. That's a whole lot
cheaper than bottled water. 
http://arrowheadcutlery.com/healthcraft/faq.htmhttp://arrowheadcutlery.com/healthcraft/faq.htm


Ode





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Re: CSwater distiller question

[Kirsteen Wright]

On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.netwrote:



  If you are paying a flat rate for power and gas, it could well be that the
 energy cost of distilling your water will be free. [to you]
 The rate isn't likely to be stacked in your favor, but even if you use more
 than usual, it's still the same cost to you with who pays the difference the
 only question.

 Don't people have power and gas meters on houses in the UK?

 Yep we do. I think Dee's like me. I pay a flat rate by direct debit
monthly. For this I get a slightly cheaper rate but it's still metered and
at least once a year the monthly amount is adjusted depending on how much
I've been using.

Cheers
Kirsteen

Re: CSwater distiller question

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I just love it Chuck!  dee

On 16 Jul 2009, at 21:03, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:


Yes indeed. Dee
For you, a distiller would pay for itself.

Chuck
**

I rear-ended a car this morning. So, there we were alongside the road
and slowly the other driver got out of his car. You know how sometimes
you just get s stressed and little things just seem funny? Yeah,
well I couldn't believe it He was a DWARF!!!

He stormed over to my car, looked up at me, and shouted, I AM NOT
HAPPY!!!

So, I looked down at him and said, Well, then which one are you?

And then the fight started.

*** On**

Re: CSwater distiller question

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

yes, but we pay by direct debit in advance, so if the bill is more,  
you have to pay extra.  This is just a way of spreading the cost.  I  
try and keep mine to a minimum but even so, it still costs a lot I  
feel.  Maybe other countries pay more than this, but I will be  
surprised if they do, considering the cost of everything else here.  dee


On 17 Jul 2009, at 09:51, Ode Coyote wrote:




 If you are paying a flat rate for power and gas, it could well be  
that the energy cost of distilling your water will be free. [to you]
The rate isn't likely to be stacked in your favor, but even if you  
use more than usual, it's still the same cost to you with who pays  
the difference the only question.


Don't people have power and gas meters on houses in the UK?

Ode

Re: CSwater distiller question

[Golden Aldi]

We also pay by direct debit here in Germany. They base it on previous months
usuage. If you end up using less at the end of the year, you get money back,
and if you use up more, then you pay the difference, and your monthly debit
payments will be adjusted to the new usuage amounts.
You get nothing for free... everything seems to have its price :-(
Aldi

On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.orgwrote:

 yes, but we pay by direct debit in advance, so if the bill is more, you
 have to pay extra.  This is just a way of spreading the cost.  I try and
 keep mine to a minimum but even so, it still costs a lot I feel.  Maybe
 other countries pay more than this, but I will be surprised if they do,
 considering the cost of everything else here.  dee
 On 17 Jul 2009, at 09:51, Ode Coyote wrote:



  If you are paying a flat rate for power and gas, it could well be that the
 energy cost of distilling your water will be free. [to you]
 The rate isn't likely to be stacked in your favor, but even if you use more
 than usual, it's still the same cost to you with who pays the difference the
 only question.

 Don't people have power and gas meters on houses in the UK?

 Ode

Re: CSwater distiller question

[Ode Coyote]

  Try 68 cents a gallon sometimes.

No way electricity would cost that much to distill water !!  [..not like I 
know what it costs in the UKreally?  ]

Have you tried battery water from the auto parts store?

it takes about 3 kilowatt hours to make a gallon of distilled water. A 
kilowatt = 1000 watts, a kilowatt hour is 1000 watts per hour. The power 
company sells you electricity by the kilowatt; the average kilowatt cost is 
about 8-10 cents. Since the distiller will use three kilowatt hours to make 
a gallon of water the cost is about 24 cents per gallon. That's a whole lot 
cheaper than bottled water. http://arrowheadcutlery.com/healthcraft/faq.htm


Ode

At 11:39 AM 7/15/2009 +0100, you wrote:
A dollar a gallon!!  Ours here in the UK is more like $28 per gallon!  And 
that can't be bought at a store - it has to be sent off for.  I still 
think I am better doing this though, because a)  the water is so pure, and 
b) it would probably cost me more in electricity to do my own!  Then 
there's the cost of the distiller of course, and it may not be so pure 
when I've done it.  dee


On 14 Jul 2009, at 19:57, 
mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.comcking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:



I have ALWAYS used grocery market distilled water. Always bought the
cheapest (currently from WallMart).
Been doing this for over a decade...no problems.

Could never understand anyone wanting to spend the money on fuel to
home-distill, besides heating up the house needlessly also.

I know some in other countries cannot find distilled to buy, so they
HAVE a reason, but for less than a dollar a gallon, I'll go to the
market.

Chuck
Nature abhors a vacuum. So does my sister's dog.




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Re: CSwater distiller question

[Ode Coyote]

  More specifically steam irons
Using tap water will eventually clog the steam nozzles and chamber with 
mineral deposits as the *iron* distills the water


Ode


At 05:42 PM 7/15/2009 +0100, you wrote:


On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Marshall Dudley 
mailto:mdud...@king-cart.commdud...@king-cart.com wrote:

Batteries and irons require distilled water. What do you do about those?

Why do irons need distilled water. I've never used it in mine.

Cheers
Kirsteen



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Re: CSwater distiller question

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I don't, otherwise I wouldn't buy it!  I mentioned it to show the  
difference in the two countries. dee


On 15 Jul 2009, at 19:37, Smitty wrote:


A dollar a gallon!!  Ours here in the UK is more like $28 per gallon!
it would probably cost me more in electricity to do my own!
Then there's the cost of the distiller of course,
dee


You shouldn't pinch pennies when it concerns your health.

Smitty


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Re: CSwater distiller question

[Marshall Dudley]

Deborah Gerard wrote:

Rain water is distilled water,

Unfortunately rain water can pick up a lot of trash on the way down.  It 
absorbs CO2 at a minimum. That can be boiled out though.  If there is 
pollution, then it can absorb SO3 making sulfuric acid (acid rain), as 
well as dust, pollen and other airborne particulate matter.  If there is 
lightning, then it will absorb the oxides of nitrogen producing nitric 
and nitrous acids.  If you are going to use rainwater, then it is best 
to wait until it has rained a while, so the particulate and pollution 
will be washed out of the air, and try to do with when the rain is 
heavy, but there is little or no lightning.  Then boil it to remove the CO2.


Marshall

deb

--- On *Wed, 7/15/09, cking...@nycap.rr.com /cking...@nycap.rr.com/* 
wrote:



From: cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com
Subject: Re: CSwater distiller question
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 12:57 PM

Dee,
The grocers carry distilled for household purposes such as use in
electric irons.
It prevents mineral buildup and lengths the iron's life.

What do folks in UK use?

Chuck
God loves everyone, but probably prefers
  'fruits of the spirit' over 'religious nuts!'


On 7/15/2009 6:39:34 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org
http://us.mc566.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=...@deetroy.org) wrote:
 A dollar a gallon!!  Ours here in the UK is more like $28 per
gallon!  And
 that
 can't be bought at a store - it has to be sent off for.  I still
think I am better doing this though, because a)  the water is so
pure, and b) it would probably cost me more in electricity to do
my own!  Then there's
 the cost of the distiller of course, and it may not be so pure when
 I've done it.  dee
 On 14 Jul 2009, at 19:57, cking...@nycap.rr.com
http://us.mc566.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cking...@nycap.rr.com
wrote:

 I have ALWAYS used grocery market distilled water. Always bought the
 cheapest (currently from WallMart).
 Been doing this for over a decade...no problems.

 Could never understand anyone wanting to spend the money on fuel to
 home-distill, besides heating up the house needlessly also.

 I know some in other countries cannot find distilled to buy, so they
 HAVE a reason, but for less than a dollar a gallon, I'll
 go to the
 market.

 Chuck
 Nature abhors a vacuum. So does my sister's dog.

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Re: CSwater distiller question

[Tel Tofflemire]

That is 1/2 the story Ode Coyote, I have had 4 very good distillers over the 
years, in each case the elements get full of corrosion and deteriorate and no 
way of cleaning them after they are worn out, so you bye new ones, (at the cost 
of the original distiller) So you buy a better one, same thing happens and so 
on.
Bottom line unless your making cs for sale on a large volume, it is cheaper to 
buy distilled water at a good source, Check the dissolved solids count of 
mineral in your Distilled water before you  use it. ( a Hanna tester is not too 
expensive) google it, 
I get mine at Walgreens Drug, last year they were high in dissolved solids, and 
most of us quit them  wrote the co. letters, they changed mgf. and its back to 
between 1.5 and 3,5 ppm. on TDS tester.  $65 cents is pretty cheap for a gallon 
of Colloidal Silver now days.

Tel Tofflemire

Dewey, AZ.

--- On Thu, 7/16/09, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net wrote:

From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net
Subject: Re: CSwater distiller question
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 3:13 AM



  Try 68 cents a gallon sometimes.

No way electricity would cost that much to distill water !!  [..not like I know 
what it costs in the UKreally?  ]
Have you tried battery water from the auto parts store?

it takes about 3 kilowatt hours to make a gallon of distilled water. A kilowatt 
= 1000 watts, a kilowatt hour is 1000 watts per hour. The power company sells 
you electricity by the kilowatt; the average kilowatt cost is about 8-10 cents. 
Since the distiller will use three kilowatt hours to make a gallon of water the 
cost is about 24 cents per gallon. That's a whole lot cheaper than bottled 
water. http://arrowheadcutlery.com/healthcraft/faq.htm

Ode

At 11:39 AM 7/15/2009 +0100, you wrote:
 A dollar a gallon!!  Ours here in the UK is more like $28 per gallon!  And 
 that can't be bought at a store - it has to be sent off for.  I still think I 
 am better doing this though, because a)  the water is so pure, and b) it 
 would probably cost me more in electricity to do my own!  Then there's the 
 cost of the distiller of course, and it may not be so pure when I've done 
 it.  dee
 
 On 14 Jul 2009, at 19:57, mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.comcking...@nycap.rr.com 
 wrote:
 
 I have ALWAYS used grocery market distilled water. Always bought the
 cheapest (currently from WallMart).
 Been doing this for over a decade...no problems.
 
 Could never understand anyone wanting to spend the money on fuel to
 home-distill, besides heating up the house needlessly also.
 
 I know some in other countries cannot find distilled to buy, so they
 HAVE a reason, but for less than a dollar a gallon, I'll go to the
 market.
 
 Chuck
 Nature abhors a vacuum. So does my sister's dog.
 


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Re: CSwater distiller question

[Dee Fitzpatrick]

I think it wouldn't be that cheap here Ode.  I pay in advance for my
electricity and it costs me £50 per month!  The gas is £120 per month so all
in all, it is crippling.  Dee 

---Original Message---
 
From: Ode Coyote
Date: 16/07/2009 15:59:01
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSwater distiller question
 
 
   Try 68 cents a gallon sometimes.
 
Company sells you electricity by the kilowatt; the average kilowatt cost is
about 8-10 cents. Since the distiller will use three kilowatt hours to make
a gallon of water the cost is about 24 cents per gallon. That's a whole lot
cheaper than bottled water. http://arrowheadcutlery.com/healthcraft/faq.htm
 
Ode
 faint_grain.jpg

Re: CSwater distiller question

[Kirsteen Wright]

On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Dee Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote:

I think it wouldn't be that cheap here Ode.  I pay in advance for my
 electricity and it costs me £50 per month!  The gas is £120 per month so all
 in all, it is crippling.

I worked it out as approx 28 cents 02 13.5 pence a kilowatt here. That's
with Scottish Power

Cheers
Kirsteen

Re: CSwater distiller question

[Dee Fitzpatrick]

The water I buy reads 000 on a TDS meter.  dee

---Original Message---
 
From: Tel Tofflemire
Date: 16/07/2009 17:46:36
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSwater distiller question
 
That is 1/2 the story Ode Coyote,
 I have had 4 very good distillers over the years, in each case the elements
get full of corrosion and deteriorate and no way of cleaning them after they
are worn out, so you bye new ones, (at the cost of the original distiller)
So you buy a better one, same thing happens and so on.


Bottom line unless your making cs for sale on a large volume, it is cheaper
to buy distilled water at a good source, Check the dissolved solids count of
mineral in your Distilled water before you  use it. ( a Hanna tester is not
too expensive) google it, 



--- On Thu, 7/16/09, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net wrote:


From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net
Subject: Re: CSwater distiller question
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 3:13 AM




  Try 68 cents a gallon sometimes.


 
 On 14 Jul 2009, at 19:57, mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.comcking...@nycap.rr
com wrote:
 
 I have ALWAYS used grocery market distilled water. Always bought the
 

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Re: CSwater distiller question

[Dee Fitzpatrick]

Is that good?  I'm no good at maths I'm afraid.  dee

---Original Message---
 
From: Kirsteen Wright
Date: 16/07/2009 19:17:40
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSwater distiller question
 



On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Dee Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org wrote:

I think it wouldn't be that cheap here Ode.  I pay in advance for my
electricity and it costs me £50 per month!  The gas is £120 per month so all
in all, it is crippling.  

I worked it out as approx 28 cents 02 13.5 pence a kilowatt here. That's
with Scottish Power

Cheers
Kirsteen 

 
 
   

 





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Re: CSwater distiller question

[cking001]

Yes indeed. Dee
For you, a distiller would pay for itself.

Chuck
**

I rear-ended a car this morning. So, there we were alongside the road
and slowly the other driver got out of his car. You know how sometimes
you just get s stressed and little things just seem funny? Yeah,
well I couldn't believe it He was a DWARF!!!

He stormed over to my car, looked up at me, and shouted, I AM NOT
HAPPY!!!

So, I looked down at him and said, Well, then which one are you?

And then the fight started.

*
On 7/16/2009 7:36:56 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote:
 I don't, otherwise I wouldn't buy it!  I mentioned it to show the
 difference in the two countries. dee
 On 15 Jul 2009, at 19:37, Smitty wrote:
 
 A dollar a gallon!!  Ours here in the UK is more like $28 per gallon!
 it would probably cost me more in electricity to do my own!
 Then there's the cost of the distiller of course,
 dee
 
 You shouldn't
 pinch pennies when it concerns your health.
 
 Smitty
 
 
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Re: CSwater distiller question

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

A dollar a gallon!!  Ours here in the UK is more like $28 per gallon!   
And that can't be bought at a store - it has to be sent off for.  I  
still think I am better doing this though, because a)  the water is so  
pure, and b) it would probably cost me more in electricity to do my  
own!  Then there's the cost of the distiller of course, and it may not  
be so pure when I've done it.  dee


On 14 Jul 2009, at 19:57, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:


I have ALWAYS used grocery market distilled water. Always bought the
cheapest (currently from WallMart).
Been doing this for over a decade...no problems.

Could never understand anyone wanting to spend the money on fuel to
home-distill, besides heating up the house needlessly also.

I know some in other countries cannot find distilled to buy, so they
HAVE a reason, but for less than a dollar a gallon, I'll go to the
market.

Chuck
Nature abhors a vacuum. So does my sister's dog.

Re: CSwater distiller question

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I wish our Asda (owned by Walmart) did distilled water, but it  
doesn't.  dee


On 14 Jul 2009, at 20:14, Jean Baugh wrote:


Hi,

You might find this of interest.  I'd been using Wal-Mart distilled  
water

and then changed to some from my grocery store.  The moment I used the
grocery store distilled water, my CS machine refused to work.  It  
turned out
to be the water.  When I poured out the grocery store distilled  
water and

replaced it with the Wal-Mart water, the CS machine worked perfectly.

Jean

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Re: CSwater distiller question

[Marshall Dudley]

Batteries and irons require distilled water. What do you do about those?

Marshall

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
A dollar a gallon!!  Ours here in the UK is more like $28 per gallon! 
 And that can't be bought at a store - it has to be sent off for.  I 
still think I am better doing this though, because a)  the water is so 
pure, and b) it would probably cost me more in electricity to do my 
own!  Then there's the cost of the distiller of course, and it may not 
be so pure when I've done it.  dee


On 14 Jul 2009, at 19:57, cking...@nycap.rr.com 
mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:



I have ALWAYS used grocery market distilled water. Always bought the
cheapest (currently from WallMart).
Been doing this for over a decade...no problems.

Could never understand anyone wanting to spend the money on fuel to
home-distill, besides heating up the house needlessly also.

I know some in other countries cannot find distilled to buy, so they
HAVE a reason, but for less than a dollar a gallon, I'll go to the
market.

Chuck
Nature abhors a vacuum. So does my sister's dog.








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Re: CSwater distiller question

[Kirsteen Wright]

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.comwrote:

 Batteries and irons require distilled water. What do you do about those?

 Why do irons need distilled water. I've never used it in mine.

Cheers
Kirsteen

Re: CSwater distiller question

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Oh you can buy that in the car shop, but it is not supposed to be good  
enough for CS - at least that is what I was told.  Also, you only get  
a litre at a time and that is a couple of pound at least, so would  
probably work out nearly as much. dee


On 15 Jul 2009, at 17:13, Marshall Dudley wrote:

Batteries and irons require distilled water. What do you do about  
those?


Marshall

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

Re: CSwater distiller question

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I just stick boiled water out of the kettle in mine!  dee
On 15 Jul 2009, at 17:42, Kirsteen Wright wrote:




On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com 
 wrote:
Batteries and irons require distilled water. What do you do about  
those?


Why do irons need distilled water. I've never used it in mine.

Cheers
Kirsteen

Re: CSwater distiller question

[Kirsteen Wright]

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.orgwrote:

 I just stick boiled water out of the kettle in mine!  dee

 I just use tap water - mind you we have very soft water here

Kirsteen

Re: CSwater distiller question

[cking001]

Dee,
The grocers carry distilled for household purposes such as use in
electric irons.
It prevents mineral buildup and lengths the iron's life.

What do folks in UK use?

Chuck
God loves everyone, but probably prefers 
  'fruits of the spirit' over 'religious nuts!'


On 7/15/2009 6:39:34 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote:
 A dollar a gallon!!  Ours here in the UK is more like $28 per gallon!  And
 that
 can't be bought at a store - it has to be sent off for.  I still think I am 
 better doing this though, because a)  the water is so pure, and b) it would 
 probably cost me more in electricity to do my own!  Then there's
 the cost of the distiller of course, and it may not be so pure when
 I've done it.  dee
 On 14 Jul 2009, at 19:57, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
 
 I have ALWAYS used grocery market distilled water. Always bought the
 cheapest (currently from WallMart).
 Been doing this for over a decade...no problems.
 
 Could never understand anyone wanting to spend the money on fuel to
 home-distill, besides heating up the house needlessly also.
 
 I know some in other countries cannot find distilled to buy, so they
 HAVE a reason, but for less than a dollar a gallon, I'll
 go to the
 market.
 
 Chuck
 Nature abhors a vacuum. So does my sister's dog.
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Re: CSwater distiller question

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Ours is the hardest in the country unfortunately.  dee

On 15 Jul 2009, at 17:55, Kirsteen Wright wrote:




On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick  
d...@deetroy.org wrote:

I just stick boiled water out of the kettle in mine!  dee

I just use tap water - mind you we have very soft water here

Kirsteen

Re: CSwater distiller question

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Nothing, we just have to put in water softening things like Calgon or  
soda crystals, because I live in the south and it is hard water here.   
dee


On 15 Jul 2009, at 17:57, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:


Dee,
The grocers carry distilled for household purposes such as use in
electric irons.
It prevents mineral buildup and lengths the iron's life.

What do folks in UK use?

Chuck
God loves everyone, but probably prefers
 'fruits of the spirit' over 'religious nuts!'


On 7/15/2009 6:39:34 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote:

Re: CSwater distiller question

[Kirsteen Wright]

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 5:57 PM, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

 Dee,
 The grocers carry distilled for household purposes such as use in
 electric irons.
 It prevents mineral buildup and lengths the iron's life.

 What do folks in UK use?


We have extremely soft water here in Scotland, there's never any mineral
build up or scale in anything.

Cheers
Kirsteen

Re: CSwater distiller question

[Marshall Dudley]

Kirsteen Wright wrote:



On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Marshall Dudley 
mdud...@king-cart.com mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:


Batteries and irons require distilled water. What do you do about
those?

Why do irons need distilled water. I've never used it in mine.

Cheers
Kirsteen

If you use regular water, when it produces steam, the minerals get left 
behind, and will clog it up. Even worse, the minerals often have brown 
stain in them, from rust or sediment, which can sometimes break loose, 
and stain the garment you are ironing.


Marshall


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Re: CSwater distiller question

[Smitty]

 A dollar a gallon!!  Ours here in the UK is more like $28 per gallon!
 it would probably cost me more in electricity to do my own!
Then there's the cost of the distiller of course,
  dee

You shouldn't pinch pennies when it concerns your health.

Smitty


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Re: CSwater distiller question

[Kirsteen Wright]

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 7:34 PM, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.comwrote:


 If you use regular water, when it produces steam, the minerals get left
 behind, and will clog it up. Even worse, the minerals often have brown stain
 in them, from rust or sediment, which can sometimes break loose, and stain
 the garment you are ironing.

 I guess we're lucky with the water here, the lack of minerals mean that
doesn't happen

Kirsteen

FW: CSwater distiller question

[Norton, Steve]

 
Your distiller looks to be very similar to mine. I never had the
instructions to mine so I use it the same way you would use a still.
First, you want to get rid of the impurities that have a lower boiling
point than water. You can either discard the first half oz or oz of
distilled water or you can boil the water in a pan for a few minutes
before adding to the distiller. I do the latter since it also speeds up
the distilling process. Then at the end, you want to discard the last oz
or so of water. I simply stop the distiller with a little water left in
the distiller and discard the undistilled residue.
You may have rust deposits or minerals form in the pot. Just clean them
out. They should not affect your distilled water if you do as described
above. Some people have had really poor water that requires distilling
the water twice. I have not. 
If your pot is the same as mine, the inside pot is stainless steel and
the residue may be from iron dissolved in the water. I wouldnm't worry
about rust - just clean it out. To improve the taste of distilled water
for drinking purposes, most people filter the water through an activated
charcoal filter after distillation.
 - Steve N



From: dingyun...@att.net [mailto:dingyun...@att.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:23 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSwater distiller question


Hi, group
 
   This is my first time buying water distiller.  I got it from whioe
sale water distiller costs 248.00.  The output water has metal smell and
often I need to wash the pot because there are lots brown color rust
sittomg at bottom of the pot.  Does my water have comtamination due to
the material of pot?  I dare not use this water making CS. Can I
continue drinking this kind of water?  What is the better quality brand
if mine is quesitonable?  Thanks for your timly advice.  Helen
 
   

Re: CSwater distiller question

[Deborah Gerard]

Rain water is distilled water,
deb

--- On Wed, 7/15/09, cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:


From: cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com
Subject: Re: CSwater distiller question
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 12:57 PM


Dee,
The grocers carry distilled for household purposes such as use in
electric irons.
It prevents mineral buildup and lengths the iron's life.

What do folks in UK use?

                    Chuck
God loves everyone, but probably prefers 
      'fruits of the spirit' over 'religious nuts!'


On 7/15/2009 6:39:34 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote:
 A dollar a gallon!!  Ours here in the UK is more like $28 per gallon!  And
 that
 can't be bought at a store - it has to be sent off for.  I still think I am 
 better doing this though, because a)  the water is so pure, and b) it would 
 probably cost me more in electricity to do my own!  Then there's
 the cost of the distiller of course, and it may not be so pure when
 I've done it.  dee
 On 14 Jul 2009, at 19:57, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
 
 I have ALWAYS used grocery market distilled water. Always bought the
 cheapest (currently from WallMart).
 Been doing this for over a decade...no problems.
 
 Could never understand anyone wanting to spend the money on fuel to
 home-distill, besides heating up the house needlessly also.
 
 I know some in other countries cannot find distilled to buy, so they
 HAVE a reason, but for less than a dollar a gallon, I'll
 go to the
 market.
 
 Chuck
 Nature abhors a vacuum. So does my sister's dog.
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Re: CSwater distiller question

[Clayton Family]

sort of.

there can be alot of junk in it sometimes.


On Jul 15, 2009, at 5:47 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:


Rain water is distilled water,
deb

--- On Wed, 7/15/09, cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com 
wrote:


From: cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com
Subject: Re: CSwater distiller question
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 12:57 PM

Dee,
The grocers carry distilled for household purposes such as use in
electric irons.



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Re: CSwater distiller question

[Deborah Gerard]

I would think it is a option and a person could strain it couldn't they? thanks 
deb

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From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
Subject: Re: CSwater distiller question
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 9:04 PM


sort of.

there can be alot of junk in it sometimes.


On Jul 15, 2009, at 5:47 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:

 Rain water is distilled water,
 deb
 
 --- On Wed, 7/15/09, cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
 
 From: cking...@nycap.rr.com cking...@nycap.rr.com
 Subject: Re: CSwater distiller question
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Date: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 12:57 PM
 
 Dee,
 The grocers carry distilled for household purposes such as use in
 electric irons.


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Re: CSwater distiller question

[Clayton Family]

Hi Helen,

It looks like this post was not seen the first time. Questions:  What 
kind of distiller do you have?  Rust in the bottom is not a good sign, 
as you  have noted. Have you checked the conductivity of the water with 
a meter at all?


I do not have one, but remember some posts about a Love water 
distiller? I am a little fuzzy on it. Maybe someone else will chime in 
here.


Kathryn

On Jul 7, 2009, at 3:22 PM, dingyun...@att.net wrote:


Hi, group
 
   This is my first time buying water distiller.  I got it from whioe 
sale water distiller costs 248.00.  The output water has metal smell 
and often I need to wash the pot because there are lots brown color 
rust sittomg at bottom of the pot.  Does my water have comtamination 
due to the material of pot?  I dare not use this water making CS. Can 
I continue drinking this kind of water?  What is the better quality 
brand if mine is quesitonable?  Thanks for your timly advice.  Helen

 
  




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Re: CSwater distiller question

[dingyung49]

This is the model I brought.  
http://www.webeatprices.com/product_info.php?cPath=1products_id=1osCsid=1218dcef6081e8d5e01f05874540610d
Pot has weird smell and rust at bottom  .  Since I did not get answer from this 
group, I posted on the other group.  One of the member adivised me stop using 
it.  He is willing to test my water sample, which I just shipped to him last 
week.  Somebody suggested me just buying from supermarket.  Is it good idea 
using commercial made distill water making CS?  What do you think the 
waterwisedistiller brand?  Helen

--- On Tue, 7/14/09, Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote:


From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com
Subject: Re: CSwater distiller question
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, July 14, 2009, 8:56 AM


Hi Helen,

It looks like this post was not seen the first time. Questions:  What kind of 
distiller do you have?  Rust in the bottom is not a good sign, as you  have 
noted. Have you checked the conductivity of the water with a meter at all?

I do not have one, but remember some posts about a Love water distiller? I am a 
little fuzzy on it. Maybe someone else will chime in here.

Kathryn

On Jul 7, 2009, at 3:22 PM, dingyun...@att.net wrote:

 Hi, group
  
    This is my first time buying water distiller.  I got it from whioe sale 
 water distiller costs 248.00.  The output water has metal smell and often I 
 need to wash the pot because there are lots brown color rust sittomg at 
 bottom of the pot.  Does my water have comtamination due to the material of 
 pot?  I dare not use this water making CS. Can I continue drinking this kind 
 of water?  What is the better quality brand if mine is quesitonable?  Thanks 
 for your timly advice.  Helen
  
   
 


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Re: CSwater distiller question

[cking001]

I have ALWAYS used grocery market distilled water. Always bought the
cheapest (currently from WallMart).
Been doing this for over a decade...no problems.

Could never understand anyone wanting to spend the money on fuel to
home-distill, besides heating up the house needlessly also.

I know some in other countries cannot find distilled to buy, so they
HAVE a reason, but for less than a dollar a gallon, I'll go to the
market.

Chuck
Nature abhors a vacuum. So does my sister's dog.


On 7/14/2009 12:39:33 PM, dingyun...@att.net wrote:
 This is the model I brought. http://www.webeatprices.com/product_info.
 php?cPath=1products_id=1osCsid=1218dcef6081e8d5e01f05874540610d
 Pot has weird smell and rust at bottom . Since I did not get answer from
 this group, I posted on the other group. One of the member adivised me
 stop using it. He is willing to test my water sample, which I just shipped
 to him last week. Somebody suggested me just buying from supermarket. Is
 it good idea using commercial made distill water making CS? What do you
 think the waterwisedistiller brand? Helen
 
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CSwater distiller question

[Jean Baugh]

Hi,

You might find this of interest.  I'd been using Wal-Mart distilled water
and then changed to some from my grocery store.  The moment I used the
grocery store distilled water, my CS machine refused to work.  It turned out
to be the water.  When I poured out the grocery store distilled water and
replaced it with the Wal-Mart water, the CS machine worked perfectly.

Jean

*

 I have ALWAYS used grocery market distilled water. Always bought the
 cheapest (currently from WallMart).
 Been doing this for over a decade...no problems.
 
 Could never understand anyone wanting to spend the money on fuel to
 home-distill, besides heating up the house needlessly also.
 
 I know some in other countries cannot find distilled to buy, so they
 HAVE a reason, but for less than a dollar a gallon, I'll go to the
 market.
 
 Chuck
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Re: CSwater distiller question

[cking001]

Yeah, you just have to try it and see how it works.
You can't even go by brand because they use local regional distillers.

Chuck
Character density:
The number of very weird people in the office.

On 7/14/2009 3:14:40 PM, Jean Baugh (oldgl...@bigcountry.net) wrote:
 Hi,
 
 You might find this of interest.
 I'd been using Wal-Mart distilled water
 and then changed to some from my grocery store.  The moment I used the
 grocery store distilled water, my CS machine refused to work.  It turned out
 to be the water.  When I poured out the grocery store distilled water and
 replaced it with the Wal-Mart water, the CS machine worked perfectly.
 
 Jean
 
 *
 
  I have ALWAYS used grocery market distilled water. Always bought the
  cheapest (currently from WallMart).
  Been doing this for over a decade...no problems.
 
  Could never understand anyone wanting to spend the money on fuel to
  home-distill, besides heating up the house needlessly also.
 
  I know some in other countries cannot find distilled to buy, so they
  HAVE a reason, but for less than a dollar a gallon, I'll
 go to the
  market.
 
  Chuck
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CSwater distiller question

[dingyung49]

Hi, group
 
   This is my first time buying water distiller.  I got it from whioe sale 
water distiller costs 248.00.  The output water has metal smell and often I 
need to wash the pot because there are lots brown color rust sittomg at bottom 
of the pot.  Does my water have comtamination due to the material of pot?  I 
dare not use this water making CS. Can I continue drinking this kind of 
water?  What is the better quality brand if mine is quesitonable?  Thanks for 
your timly advice.  Helen
 
   

CSWater Distiller

[Sickleave48045]

Pulled this off Net

To distill water all you need is a bucket with water, some plastic wrap, and  
some type of jar or cup. Suspend the jar in the center of the bucket, above 
the  water level. Then place the plastic wrap on top of the bucket. Put some 
type of  weight on the plastic wrap in the center so it bends down and forms a 
cone. (the  tip of the cone should be pointed directly into the jar that is in 
the  bucket)
Then place this in the sun.
The water should evaporate and  condense on the plastic wrap, drip down the 
cone shape, and fall into the  jar.
That is distilled water.
I came up with one bigger I have seen (at work) 55 gallon Black plastic  
drums You could make a large bucket type with some thing in center to catch  
water 
and pass through side of drum to a storage container behind drum Bob



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Re: CSWater Distiller

[leslie1053]

Do you put a hole in the bottom of the cone? I had heard that plastic wrap 
leaked plastic intoyour food; Is this the type of plastic to use?
Thanks,
Leslie
 
 From: sickleave48...@aol.com
 Date: 2008/09/21 Sun AM 03:48:25 CDT
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSWater Distiller
 
 Pulled this off Net
 
 To distill water all you need is a bucket with water, some plastic wrap, and  
 some type of jar or cup. Suspend the jar in the center of the bucket, above 
 the  water level. Then place the plastic wrap on top of the bucket. Put some 
 type of  weight on the plastic wrap in the center so it bends down and forms 
 a 
 cone. (the  tip of the cone should be pointed directly into the jar that is 
 in 
 the  bucket)
 Then place this in the sun.
 The water should evaporate and  condense on the plastic wrap, drip down the 
 cone shape, and fall into the  jar.
 That is distilled water.
 I came up with one bigger I have seen (at work) 55 gallon Black plastic  
 drums You could make a large bucket type with some thing in center to catch  
 water 
 and pass through side of drum to a storage container behind drum Bob
 
 
 
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CSWater Distiller, Two Essentials

[Wayne Fugitt]

At 01:25 PM 9/21/2008, you wrote:
To distill water all you need is a bucket with water, some plastic 
wrap, and  some type of jar or cup.


That is not all of course.

The two primary requirements are a source of heat and a source
of coolness.

Often distilling takes place without any intervention of man, if 
these two things are present.


A deep well is often very cool.  Mine is only 165 feet but with a 
thick layer or rock on top of the water.


A running creek is sometimes cool, but not always.

Deep lakes may be cool at the bottom,  Shallow and mid depth lakes 
are often warm, all the way to the bottom.


There are no deep lakes in my area.

Both the creeks and the lakes are often 86 degees,

There is no temperature stratification in the lakes.
They are the same temperature from top to bottom, often 40 feet in depth.

Without the source of heat and cool, I do not think all the kings 
horses and all the kings men, can distill any water.


Wayne

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Re: CSWater Distiller, Two Essentials

[leslie1053]

Oh wellnice thought anyway. LOL
 
 From: Wayne Fugitt cwf...@fugitt.com
 Date: 2008/09/21 Sun PM 02:28:05 CDT
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSWater Distiller, Two Essentials
 
 At 01:25 PM 9/21/2008, you wrote:
 To distill water all you need is a bucket with water, some plastic 
 wrap, and  some type of jar or cup.
 
 That is not all of course.
 
 The two primary requirements are a source of heat and a source
 of coolness.
 
 Often distilling takes place without any intervention of man, if 
 these two things are present.
 
 A deep well is often very cool.  Mine is only 165 feet but with a 
 thick layer or rock on top of the water.
 
 A running creek is sometimes cool, but not always.
 
 Deep lakes may be cool at the bottom,  Shallow and mid depth lakes 
 are often warm, all the way to the bottom.
 
 There are no deep lakes in my area.
 
 Both the creeks and the lakes are often 86 degees,
 
 There is no temperature stratification in the lakes.
 They are the same temperature from top to bottom, often 40 feet in depth.
 
 Without the source of heat and cool, I do not think all the kings 
 horses and all the kings men, can distill any water.
 
 Wayne
 
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Re: CSWater Distiller- type of plastic wrap

[Clayton Family]

There used to be a difference in the plastic used for plastic wrap. 
Original Saran wrap was not the cling type wrap, and it was made of 
polyethelene, which is considered fairly inert.  Cling type wrap was 
made of something else which was not so good. The main problems as I 
recall them, were in the presence of grease from food. Whatever toxins 
were in the plastic were fat soluble, and would then migrate into the 
food from the plastic where it touched. I am not sure if the original 
saran wrap brand has changed composition since it was bought out by 
Reynolds Wrap.


Kathryn

On Sep 21, 2008, at 1:25 PM, leslie1...@windstream.net wrote:

Do you put a hole in the bottom of the cone? I had heard that plastic 
wrap leaked plastic intoyour food; Is this the type of plastic to use?

Thanks,
Leslie


From: sickleave48...@aol.com
Date: 2008/09/21 Sun AM 03:48:25 CDT
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSWater Distiller

Pulled this off Net

To distill water all you need is a bucket with water, some plastic 
wrap, and
some type of jar or cup. Suspend the jar in the center of the bucket, 
above
the  water level. Then place the plastic wrap on top of the bucket. 
Put some
type of  weight on the plastic wrap in the center so it bends down 
and forms a
cone. (the  tip of the cone should be pointed directly into the jar 
that is in

the  bucket)
Then place this in the sun.
The water should evaporate and  condense on the plastic wrap, drip 
down the

cone shape, and fall into the  jar.
That is distilled water.
I came up with one bigger I have seen (at work) 55 gallon Black 
plastic
drums You could make a large bucket type with some thing in center to 
catch  water

and pass through side of drum to a storage container behind drum Bob




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Re: CSWater Distiller

[Smitty]

 Do you put a hole in the bottom of the cone?
I had heard that plastic wrap leaked plastic into
your food; Is this the type of plastic to use?
  Thanks,
  Leslie

You don't cut a hole in the bottom of the cone
shaped plastic.

Here's an example to maybe clarify the idea for you =
http://tinyurl.com/4ytszy

Smitty


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Re: CSWater Distiller, Two Essentials

[Wayne Fugitt]

Evening Leslie,

At 02:41 PM 9/21/2008, you wrote:

Oh wellnice thought anyway. LOL


  I did not say it would not work.

Of course it will work fine.  It is nothing new, been around for a 
long, long time.


It is almost the same as the remote and primitive design that 
requires nothing but a sheet of plastic and a hole in the 
ground,  and your hat to catch the water. ( if you have a good hat )


The best feature of the idea is the free energy.

Wayne

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Re: Re: CSWater Distiller, Two Essentials

[leslie1053]

Gotcha. In the past if any way to screw it up, I'd find that way. Now, the 
words out of my mouth are that I CAN and I CAN DO IT RIGHT.

Thanks,
Leslie
 
 From: Wayne Fugitt cwf...@fugitt.com
 Date: 2008/09/21 Sun PM 09:07:46 CDT
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSWater Distiller, Two Essentials
 
 Evening Leslie,
 
 At 02:41 PM 9/21/2008, you wrote:
 Oh wellnice thought anyway. LOL
 
I did not say it would not work.
 
 Of course it will work fine.  It is nothing new, been around for a 
 long, long time.
 
 It is almost the same as the remote and primitive design that 
 requires nothing but a sheet of plastic and a hole in the 
 ground,  and your hat to catch the water. ( if you have a good hat )
 
 The best feature of the idea is the free energy.
 
 Wayne
 
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RE: CSWater distiller (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Ode Coyote]

  A COM-100 is better in some ways, equally as accurate and costs $55 with 
free shipping. [$30 below suggested retail ]


I suppose someone else will have to say where to get it.
Ebay has some cheaper smaller EC meters that seem to work pretty well.

Ode

At 03:14 PM 5/29/2008 -0400, you wrote:


Classification: UNCLASSIFIED

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Where is cheapest place to get a PWT meter
I found it for $63

 Bob


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From: Jason Eaton [mailto:resea...@silvermedicine.org]
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 2:38 PM
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HI Robert:

I prefer using a PWT meter, such as one offered by Hanna Instruments.

I prefer to start with water that tests at 0.3 uS.

I test the water before I add the water to the container, after the water 
is placed in the container, and then after the silver electrodes are added 
to the container.


I won't use distilled wtaer that reads 1.0 uS or greater.

I also test the PH of the distilled water.

If the PH is too far away from 7.0, or if I can't get a stable reading on 
the PH, I get suspicious ( one must use a calibrated digital PH meter, and 
not papers ).  I might then re-ozonate the water, as I suspect that it 
might be possible that the water is contaminated with dissolved plastics.


Dissolved plastics may not register on a PWT or TDS meter.

Best Regards,

Jason

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From: mailto:robert.j.medw...@us.army.milMedwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC
To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comcs
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 11:26 AM
Subject: CSWater distiller (UNCLASSIFIED)

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I got to thinking (terrible I know)  about my distiller and how I measure 
the water.
I use my TDS and get a 0 maybe I should have something better to test the 
water with.
Maybe I do not have as good a water as I think, this could explain why I 
had problems in past

(and some times now) where my wife says I am turning gray in the face.
I have backed off on consumption and strength of CS. Maybe I need to look 
harder at my distilled water that I am using.
I back off on the CS and color gets better. What is best for testing the 
distilled water and how good should it be.
I have never cleaned my distiller either, before I do clean it I should 
test it first.
So what do I need to buy to test it with. I have been praising my Love 
distiller, maybe it is not as good as I think.
I will let you all know what I find out before and after. Right now I need 
some thing to test with.


  Bob

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RE: CSWater distiller (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Silvia Messmer]

Does anyone use lab glass ware to distill their water?  If so do you like
the results?  What set up do you use?

Silvia




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From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net]
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 7:57 AM
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Subject: RE: CSWater distiller (UNCLASSIFIED)




   A COM-100 is better in some ways, equally as accurate and costs $55 with
free shipping. [$30 below suggested retail ]

I suppose someone else will have to say where to get it.
Ebay has some cheaper smaller EC meters that seem to work pretty well.

Ode

At 03:14 PM 5/29/2008 -0400, you wrote:

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Where is cheapest place to get a PWT meter
I found it for $63

  Bob


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From: Jason Eaton [mailto:resea...@silvermedicine.org]
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 2:38 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSWater distiller (UNCLASSIFIED)

HI Robert:

I prefer using a PWT meter, such as one offered by Hanna Instruments.

I prefer to start with water that tests at 0.3 uS.

I test the water before I add the water to the container, after the water
is placed in the container, and then after the silver electrodes are added
to the container.

I won't use distilled wtaer that reads 1.0 uS or greater.

I also test the PH of the distilled water.

If the PH is too far away from 7.0, or if I can't get a stable reading on
the PH, I get suspicious ( one must use a calibrated digital PH meter, and
not papers ).  I might then re-ozonate the water, as I suspect that it
might be possible that the water is contaminated with dissolved plastics.

Dissolved plastics may not register on a PWT or TDS meter.

Best Regards,

Jason

- Original Message -
From: mailto:robert.j.medw...@us.army.milMedwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC
To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comcs
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 11:26 AM
Subject: CSWater distiller (UNCLASSIFIED)

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: NONE


I got to thinking (terrible I know)  about my distiller and how I measure
the water.
I use my TDS and get a 0 maybe I should have something better to test the
water with.
Maybe I do not have as good a water as I think, this could explain why I
had problems in past
(and some times now) where my wife says I am turning gray in the face.
I have backed off on consumption and strength of CS. Maybe I need to look
harder at my distilled water that I am using.
I back off on the CS and color gets better. What is best for testing the
distilled water and how good should it be.
I have never cleaned my distiller either, before I do clean it I should
test it first.
So what do I need to buy to test it with. I have been praising my Love
distiller, maybe it is not as good as I think.
I will let you all know what I find out before and after. Right now I need
some thing to test with.

   Bob

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