CSCleaning Distillers

2014-08-17 Thread Melly Bag
Hi PT,


My husband soaks the distiller overnight with 6% distilled vinegar and adds 
baking soda to it.  It would bubble so be careful, it could spill over.  The 
following morning if there is any residue left, most of the time very tiny 
bits, he would use a long brush with long bristles at the end, and coiled brush 
on the main body which he bought from Harbor Freight.  I believe that is used 
for oil changing.  Another favorite brush is the ultra soft bottle brush he 
bought at Dollar Store.  It does not take long to scrub away.

Before this, he has a hard time getting rid of those hard calcifications left 
on the stainless steel boiler pot.  This is hard to clean because the heating 
element is in the pot too.  Now he does it very easily.
 

Melly

CSOT - water distillers

2014-08-16 Thread PT Ferrance
For those of you who use water distillers, how do you clean the dust that seems 
to collect on the cooling tube?  The aperature is too narrow for my fingers and 
a rag.  A brush didn't seem to get the job done.
Thanks.
PT

Re: CSOT - water distillers

2014-08-16 Thread HARSHA GODAVARI
Try a tooth brush or a thick pipe cleaner(you don't have to smoke to buy them) 
:-)
regards
hg
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Subject: CSOT - water distillers

For those of you who use water distillers, how do you clean the dust that seems 
to collect on the cooling tube?  The aperature is too narrow for my fingers and 
a rag.  A brush didn't seem to get the job done.
Thanks.
PT


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Re: CSOT - water distillers

2014-08-16 Thread PT Ferrance
Thanks, Harsha.  I tried the toothbrush and it didn't work because it was too 
thick.

PT

 



 From: HARSHA GODAVARI h.godav...@shaw.ca
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Subject: Re: CSOT - water distillers
 

Try a tooth brush or a thick pipe cleaner(you don't have to smoke to buy them) 
:-)
regards
hg



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Subject: CSOT - water distillers

For those of you who use water distillers, how do you clean the dust that seems 
to collect on the cooling tube?  The aperature is too narrow for my fingers and 
a rag.  A brush didn't seem to get the job done.
Thanks.
PT


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Re: CSOT - water distillers

2014-08-16 Thread sol

PT Ferrance wrote:
For those of you who use water distillers, how do you clean the dust 
that seems to collect on the cooling tube?  The aperature is too 
narrow for my fingers and a rag.  A brush didn't seem to get the job done.

Thanks.
PT
 
Vacuumed with a vac brush that has longer brush bristles than most. But 
also once in a while took the top apart to get at the tube, and baffles 
(is that what they are called?) and vacuumed it thoroughly.


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Re: CSOT - water distillers

2014-08-16 Thread Joe Huard

Fins
On 2014-08-16 4:09 PM, sol wrote:

PT Ferrance wrote:
For those of you who use water distillers, how do you clean the dust 
that seems to collect on the cooling tube?  The aperature is too 
narrow for my fingers and a rag.  A brush didn't seem to get the job 
done.

Thanks.
PT

Vacuumed with a vac brush that has longer brush bristles than most. 
But also once in a while took the top apart to get at the tube, and 
baffles (is that what they are called?) and vacuumed it thoroughly.


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Re: CSOT - water distillers

2014-08-16 Thread PT Ferrance
Thanks guys.  The fins are what is in the way and there are no screws that I 
can find so I wouldn't know where to start to disassemble it.
Perhaps one of those little vacuum attachments for cleaning one's keyboard.
PT

 


 From: Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: CSOT - water distillers
 

Fins



On 2014-08-16 4:09 PM, sol wrote:
 PT Ferrance wrote:
 For those of you who use water distillers, how do you clean the dust 
 that seems to collect on the cooling tube?  The aperature is too 
 narrow for my fingers and a rag.  A brush didn't seem to get the job 
 done.
 Thanks.
 PT

 Vacuumed with a vac brush that has longer brush bristles than most. 
 But also once in a while took the top apart to get at the tube, and 
 baffles (is that what they are called?) and vacuumed it thoroughly.

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Re: CSOT - water distillers

2014-08-16 Thread Joe Huard
Send us a photo, and I'll give it a look see. I used to sell and repair 
distillers, and I still have 4 used machines here. I use RO (Reverse 
osmosis) filter system for drinking water now.

Joe
On 2014-08-16 4:50 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:
Thanks guys.  The fins are what is in the way and there are no screws 
that I can find so I wouldn't know where to start to disassemble it.
Perhaps one of those little vacuum attachments for cleaning one's 
keyboard.

PT

*From:* Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Saturday, August 16, 2014 4:43 PM
*Subject:* Re: CSOT - water distillers

Fins



On 2014-08-16 4:09 PM, sol wrote:
 PT Ferrance wrote:
 For those of you who use water distillers, how do you clean the dust
 that seems to collect on the cooling tube?  The aperature is too
 narrow for my fingers and a rag.  A brush didn't seem to get the job
 done.
 Thanks.
 PT

 Vacuumed with a vac brush that has longer brush bristles than most.
 But also once in a while took the top apart to get at the tube, and
 baffles (is that what they are called?) and vacuumed it thoroughly.

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Re: CSOT - water distillers

2014-08-16 Thread sol

Joe Huard wrote:

Fins

LOL, yes that is what I meant.

On 2014-08-16 4:09 PM, sol wrote:

PT Ferrance wrote:
For those of you who use water distillers, how do you clean the dust 
that seems to collect on the cooling tube?  The aperature is too 
narrow for my fingers and a rag.  A brush didn't seem to get the job 
done.

Thanks.
PT

Vacuumed with a vac brush that has longer brush bristles than most. 
But also once in a while took the top apart to get at the tube, and 
baffles (is that what they are called?) and vacuumed it thoroughly.


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Re: CSOT - water distillers

2014-08-16 Thread Lena Guyot
We use our air compressor to blast it clean. L
On Aug 16, 2014, at 12:44 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:

 For those of you who use water distillers, how do you clean the dust that 
 seems to collect on the cooling tube?  The aperature is too narrow for my 
 fingers and a rag.  A brush didn't seem to get the job done.
 Thanks.
 PT
  



Re: CSOT - water distillers

2014-08-16 Thread PT Ferrance
Thanks, Lena.  I hadn't thought of that.
PT

 



 From: Lena Guyot drumr...@stny.rr.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: CSOT - water distillers
 


We use our air compressor to blast it clean. L



On Aug 16, 2014, at 12:44 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:

For those of you who use water distillers, how do you clean the dust that seems 
to collect on the cooling tube?  The aperature is too narrow for my fingers and 
a rag.  A brush didn't seem to get the job done.
Thanks.
PT

 

Re: CSOT - water distillers

2014-08-16 Thread PT Ferrance
Thanks, Joe.  I would be happy to send you a picture but Duracell murdered my 
camera and I haven't gotten a new one yet. 

Do you make your CS with RO water?
PT

 


 From: Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: CSOT - water distillers
 


Send us a photo, and I'll give it a look see. I used to sell and repair 
distillers, and I still have 4 used machines here. I use RO (Reverse osmosis) 
filter system for drinking water now.
Joe



On 2014-08-16 4:50 PM, PT Ferrance wrote:

Thanks guys.  The fins are what is in the way and there are no screws that I 
can find so I wouldn't know where to start to disassemble it.
Perhaps one of those little vacuum attachments for cleaning one's keyboard.
PT

 


 From: Joe Huard joe.hu...@primus.ca
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: CSOT - water distillers
 

Fins 




On 2014-08-16 4:09 PM, sol wrote:
 PT Ferrance wrote:
 For those of you who use water distillers, how
do you clean the dust 
 that seems to collect on the cooling tube?  The
aperature is too 
 narrow for my fingers and a rag.  A brush
didn't seem to get the job 
 done.
 Thanks.
 PT

 Vacuumed with a vac brush that has longer brush
bristles than most. 
 But also once in a while took the top apart to get
at the tube, and 
 baffles (is that what they are called?) and
vacuumed it thoroughly.

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Re: CScleaning distillers - OT

2011-06-01 Thread PTF

Thanks for everyone who responded to my request for a distiller cleaner.
PT
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Subject: Re: CScleaning distillers - OT


Vinegar is fine for stainless steel, but it will attack copper and 
brass.  To remove minerals from them you can use a hot solution of 
citric acid.


Marshall


On 5/30/2011 4:37 PM, sol wrote:
I just cleaned mine (old one, no longer use a distiller) with white 
vinegar. But I only cleaned/soaked the boiling chamber. The still I 
had had aluminum tubing cooling coils, and running vinegar through 
those isn't a very good idea. I once dissolved a hole in an aluminum 
tea kettle with white vinegar, LOL.

sol

PTF wrote:
Someone once posted a formula for cleaning water distillers.  I 
haven't been able to find it and would appreciate anyone who could 
pass it along.

Thanks.
PT



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Re: CScleaning distillers - OT

2011-05-31 Thread Marshall
Vinegar is fine for stainless steel, but it will attack copper and 
brass.  To remove minerals from them you can use a hot solution of 
citric acid.


Marshall


On 5/30/2011 4:37 PM, sol wrote:
I just cleaned mine (old one, no longer use a distiller) with white 
vinegar. But I only cleaned/soaked the boiling chamber. The still I 
had had aluminum tubing cooling coils, and running vinegar through 
those isn't a very good idea. I once dissolved a hole in an aluminum 
tea kettle with white vinegar, LOL.

sol

PTF wrote:
Someone once posted a formula for cleaning water distillers.  I 
haven't been able to find it and would appreciate anyone who could 
pass it along.

Thanks.
PT



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Re: CScleaning distillers - OT

2011-05-30 Thread sol
I just cleaned mine (old one, no longer use a distiller) with white 
vinegar. But I only cleaned/soaked the boiling chamber. The still I had 
had aluminum tubing cooling coils, and running vinegar through those 
isn't a very good idea. I once dissolved a hole in an aluminum tea 
kettle with white vinegar, LOL.

sol

PTF wrote:
Someone once posted a formula for cleaning water distillers.  I 
haven't been able to find it and would appreciate anyone who could 
pass it along.

Thanks.
PT



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Re: CScleaning distillers - OT

2011-05-30 Thread Guyot Léna
I only use white vinegar to clean the boiler. For the top, careful use  
of compressed air gets any dust and dirt off the fan and from between  
the coils and cooling fins.

Be well,
Léna
On May 30, 2011, at 4:37 PM, sol wrote:

I just cleaned mine (old one, no longer use a distiller) with white  
vinegar. But I only cleaned/soaked the boiling chamber. The still I  
had had aluminum tubing cooling coils, and running vinegar through  
those isn't a very good idea. I once dissolved a hole in an aluminum  
tea kettle with white vinegar, LOL.

sol

PTF wrote:
Someone once posted a formula for cleaning water distillers.  I  
haven't been able to find it and would appreciate anyone who could  
pass it along.

Thanks.
PT



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CScleaning distillers - OT

2011-05-29 Thread PTF
Someone once posted a formula for cleaning water distillers.  I haven't been 
able to find it and would appreciate anyone who could pass it along.
Thanks.
PT

Re: CScleaning distillers - OT

2011-05-29 Thread Guyot Léna
I have good success with about a cup of white vinegar to a full tank  
of water. Remove top and plug in, outdoors, unless you want your house  
to smell like a pickle. Check on it periodically, and after about an  
hour, things should be dissolved. Brush away the mineral deposits and  
rinse carefully.

Be well,
Léna
On May 29, 2011, at 12:20 PM, PTF wrote:

Someone once posted a formula for cleaning water distillers.  I  
haven't been able to find it and would appreciate anyone who could  
pass it along.

Thanks.
PT



Re: CScleaning distillers - OT

2011-05-29 Thread PTF
Thanks, Lena.
PT
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  From: Guyot Léna 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 12:34 PM
  Subject: Re: CScleaning distillers - OT


  I have good success with about a cup of white vinegar to a full tank of 
water. Remove top and plug in, outdoors, unless you want your house to smell 
like a pickle. Check on it periodically, and after about an hour, things should 
be dissolved. Brush away the mineral deposits and rinse carefully. 
  Be well,
  Léna

  On May 29, 2011, at 12:20 PM, PTF wrote:


  Someone once posted a formula for cleaning water distillers.  I haven't been 
able to find it and would appreciate anyone who could pass it along.
  Thanks.
  PT



Re: CScleaning distillers - OT

2011-05-29 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
I just use a scrubby and then once in four uses--use the crystals they supply 
to de-lime it.  Keeps it beautiful.  Or citric acid works as well.  dee


On 29 May 2011, at 17:20, PTF wrote:

 Someone once posted a formula for cleaning water distillers.  I haven't been 
 able to find it and would appreciate anyone who could pass it along.
 Thanks.
 PT


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Re: CSwater distillers - OT

2010-07-09 Thread Homestead Springsberry
Thank you for that information.  I have never used a dehumidifier so 
didn't know this.


Laura

Marshall Dudley wrote:
Water from a dehumidifier is typically very dirty. In fact so dirty I 
have problems with condensate piping stopping up with gunk.


Marshall

Homestead Springsberry wrote:

What about using the water from a dehumidifier?

Laura






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Re: CSwater distillers - OT

2010-07-08 Thread Marshall Dudley
Water from a dehumidifier is typically very dirty. In fact so dirty I 
have problems with condensate piping stopping up with gunk.


Marshall

Homestead Springsberry wrote:

What about using the water from a dehumidifier?

Laura

needling around wrote:

Hi,
I remember someone on the list talking about how much they liked 
there Love water distiller.  I went to research them for purchase and 
found there are several different models with widely varying prices.  
If you have used a Love distiller would you share your experience?
 
Thanks.

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CSwater distillers - OT

2010-07-07 Thread needling around
Hi,
I remember someone on the list talking about how much they liked there Love 
water distiller.  I went to research them for purchase and found there are 
several different models with widely varying prices.  If you have used a Love 
distiller would you share your experience?

Thanks.
PT

Re: CSwater distillers - OT

2010-07-07 Thread Homestead Springsberry

What about using the water from a dehumidifier?

Laura

needling around wrote:

Hi,
I remember someone on the list talking about how much they liked there 
Love water distiller.  I went to research them for purchase and found 
there are several different models with widely varying prices.  If you 
have used a Love distiller would you share your experience?
 
Thanks.

PT



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Re: CSwater distillers - OT

2010-07-07 Thread needling around
All the water from dehumidifiers I've had has been filthy.  The mechanisms 
haven't been particularly sanitary... but thanks for the suggestion.

PT


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Subject: Re: CSwater distillers - OT



What about using the water from a dehumidifier?

Laura

needling around wrote:

Hi,
I remember someone on the list talking about how much they liked there 
Love water distiller.  I went to research them for purchase and found 
there are several different models with widely varying prices.  If you 
have used a Love distiller would you share your experience?

 Thanks.
PT



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Re: CSLove and American Water Distillers

2010-01-12 Thread sol

At 04:33 PM 1/10/2010, you wrote:
How was the water quality, as far as purity goes? I find generally 
that sellers and manufacturers promise the moon but user experience 
differs from the promised results.




It depended on the quality of the water going IN to be distilled. 
There is something in the water here that doesn't distill out easily. 
So at some times of the year, usually in late spring when the river 
is running very high, I could distill once and the water would be 
fine. At other times of the year, when the river is low  I'd have to 
double distill to get it pure enough. I may have been lucky. Right 
now the purchased distilled water is running a bit higher on the 
meter (about .5 to .6 uS) than I preferred to have it from the home 
still. But it is making perfectly clear CS. This may indicate that 
the source of the water that is being distilled and sold here now has 
changed. What comes out of a distiller depends in part at least on 
what goes into it, in my experience.

sol





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CSLove and American Water Distillers

2010-01-10 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick

http://www.wholesalewaterdistillers.com/distiller-water/american-water-distillers/american-water-distiller.html


here is a link to one Annie.  dee

Re: CSLove and American Water Distillers

2010-01-10 Thread sol

At 01:07 PM 1/10/2010, you wrote:


http://www.wholesalewaterdistillers.com/distiller-water/american-water-distillers/american-water-distiller.htmlhttp://www.wholesalewaterdistillers.com/distiller-water/american-water-distillers/american-water-distiller.html


here is a link to one Annie.  dee


The cheapest one sold there is the one I had, and it turned out a LOT 
of distilled water before it crumbled, LOL.

sol



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Re: CSLove and American Water Distillers

2010-01-10 Thread Annie B Smythe

Thank you Dee, I'll check it out:)


Annie

If we could sell our experiences for what they
cost us, we'd all be millionaires.
Abigail Van Buren

Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:


http://www.wholesalewaterdistillers.com/distiller-water/american-water-distillers/american-water-distiller.html


here is a link to one Annie.  dee



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Re: CSLove and American Water Distillers

2010-01-10 Thread Annie B Smythe
How was the water quality, as far as purity goes? 
I find generally that sellers and manufacturers 
promise the moon but user experience differs from 
the promised results.


Annie

If we could sell our experiences for what they
cost us, we'd all be millionaires.
Abigail Van Buren

sol wrote:

At 01:07 PM 1/10/2010, you wrote:

http://www.wholesalewaterdistillers.com/distiller-water/american-water-distillers/american-water-distiller.htmlhttp://www.wholesalewaterdistillers.com/distiller-water/american-water-distillers/american-water-distiller.html 




here is a link to one Annie.  dee


The cheapest one sold there is the one I had, and it turned out a LOT of 
distilled water before it crumbled, LOL.

sol



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Re: CSSteam distillers.

2009-06-01 Thread gmetropulo
Are distillers better to have tha RO? Best sources?


-Original Message-
From: Annie anniebsmy...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, 30 May 2009 9:02 am
Subject: Re: CSSteam distillers.







Here ya go,

http://shop.ebay.com/items/__4-Stage-Reverse-Osmosis-Water-Filter-System_W0QQ_kwZ4QQ_kwZStageQQ_kwZReverseQQ_kwZOsmosisQQ_kwZWaterQQ_kwZFilterQQ_kwZSystemQQ_ckwZCountertop?_trksid=p3286.m104.l1198


Some of them are more than 100.00 and some are less. The number of listings go 
up and down over time. You might be able to find more if you put in alternate 
search terms:)

They also have some 8 stage filtering and I think there's one that all one 
piece. You can find bath balls, that filter bath water, and shower head filters 
too. They've got some whole house systems as well.


But these prices seem pretty reasonable. I haven't checked Amazon.com in a 
while. If someone knows where I can find the RO counter top models cheaper, I'd 
sure appreciate a link:)

Annie



On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 7:51 AM, Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com wrote:



Hi Annie,




Could you please end me a link or two to one of these things? I'm not quite 
sure what its suppose to look like... I'm quite done with using the Brita 
filter I'm ready to move on to bigger and better things :-)





Thanks,

Aldi






On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.com wrote:



You can get counter top reverse osmosis water filters on eBay for around 
100.00, I've found a couple for less than that, and these filter fluoride. 
They're simple to connect, no under sink plumbing to mess with. Then you could 
distill the filtered water if you want. Makes sense to me. I've been putting 
back a few dollars for one of these RO systems for a couple of months now. They 
beat Brita to heck and gone. Brita doesn't filter fluoride. And besides, those 
stupid pitchers take up space in my fridge, and it's a PITA for cooking. I'd 
rather filter right from the faucet. Just sayin'.





Annie










 





Re: CSSteam distillers.

2009-05-31 Thread Ode Coyote



 You would want to let it rain pretty steady for a while before collecting 
the water...and pay some attention to where the clouds formed.

Ode



At 01:19 PM 5/30/2009 +0200, you wrote:
Well I'm just thnking of all th crap that is in the air. We live near 
Ludwigshafen, where BASF is situated off the Rhein River. Then we have a 
small time factory making hydraulic hoses, so that's their crap can be 
smelled, oh, and another factory where dead animal carcasses are 
processed... and the chemtrail fallout...
so I'm wondering which water would have less contaminants. WHICH is the 
reason for wanting to get the water tested, but you see what kind of 
prices I get to deal with.
Maybe if I built some sort of filter thing-a-gigy over the rainbarrel to 
pre-filter, then through the Britta filter, and then distilling it.

Your thoughts are greatly appreciated!!
Aldi
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Ode Coyote 
mailto:odecoy...@windstream.netodecoy...@windstream.net wrote:



 The quality of rain water depends on where you live and how long it has 
rained.
Rain water IS distilled water, but the air container it's in can be quite 
dirty.

 Rain does tend to rinse it though.

Ode




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Re: CSSteam distillers.

2009-05-30 Thread Golden Aldi
Thanks for that tip, David. that's one reason I'm not that crazy about those
charcoal filters, ya never know if they're really doing their job. It seems
to be the exact distiller as the one for $99... I saw that as well... paying
double is quite normal, but then I'd have to use a transformer for the 110V,
which I'm honestly no great fan of. Those transformers hum too loudly for my
liking and I imagine they suck more energy than needed just to keep the
transformer going.
And yes, it is quite tough living in another world... sometimes its like
living in the twilight zone. I just remind myself, that there's a reason
for everything, I'm just still waiting to figure out what that reason may
be...
Should I really try using rainwater? I'm a bit skeptical about that, but
sometimes I wonder which water to be cleaner, the tap or the rainwater...
that's a tough one for me. If I had some direct way to test the waters to be
sure, that would certainly ease my mind... Should I risk it? What's the
worse that cold happen?
Often enough times I wished I was already a scientist with access to many
facilities, just so that I can do my own testing and research.
Aldi

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 4:22 AM, Alchemysa da...@alchemysa.com.au wrote:

 If you are distilling water for CS NEVER use the little charcoal
 post-filter satchet that comes with these distillers. They put impurities
 back into the water. (Its the white thing thats sitting on the clear plastic
 receiver jug.)

 Also try and distill good rainwater instead of tap water.
 And dont boil the distiller dry if you can help it.

 David



 This looks identical to a unit that is available here in the United States
 at $99.00.  It must be tough to live in Germany.




Re: CSSteam distillers

2009-05-30 Thread Ode Coyote


 Logical distiller tips [not from experience]

1] use as pure a source water as possible as water isn't the only thing in 
water  that can be distilled
ie...use a charcoal filter to absorb most gases and volatiles and/ or 
reverse osmosis.
2] Don't fill the water chamber all the way up and if it has a low setting, 
use it..to prevent condenser contamination from over boil.
3] Discard the first cup that comes out to eliminate any volatiles that 
made it through the charcoal filter...or use it for something else.
4] Don't use the post filter that most distillers have to add flavor to the 
water.
5] If the DW doesn't pass muster, run it through 2-4 again skipping the 
charcoal filter part.


Ode




At 03:58 PM 5/29/2009 +0200, you wrote:
I've just ordered a steam distiller, 220V to start making my own water. 
I've read that even after distillation, there are still traces of Nitrat 
0,10mg/ltr, Chlor ,05mg/ltr, Phosphat 0,02mg/ltr, Natrium 0,07mg/ltr and 
Atrazin (have no idea what that is) 0,02mg/ltr.  I believe they used tap 
water for distilling, so if I used filtered water, that should get most of 
the elements out before distilling, thus giving me a more purer water.

Am I correct in my assumptions?
Aldi
This is the one I bought...
(http://www.ionic-pulser.eu/wasser/dampfdestilliergeraet.htmlhttp://www.ionic-pulser.eu/wasser/dampfdestilliergeraet.html)



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Re: CSSteam distillers.

2009-05-30 Thread Ode Coyote



  The quality of rain water depends on where you live and how long it has 
rained.
Rain water IS distilled water, but the air container it's in can be quite 
dirty.

 Rain does tend to rinse it though.

Ode


At 09:49 AM 5/30/2009 +0200, you wrote:
Thanks for that tip, David. that's one reason I'm not that crazy about 
those charcoal filters, ya never know if they're really doing their job. 
It seems to be the exact distiller as the one for $99... I saw that as 
well... paying double is quite normal, but then I'd have to use a 
transformer for the 110V, which I'm honestly no great fan of. Those 
transformers hum too loudly for my liking and I imagine they suck more 
energy than needed just to keep the transformer going.
And yes, it is quite tough living in another world... sometimes its like 
living in the twilight zone. I just remind myself, that there's a 
reason for everything, I'm just still waiting to figure out what that 
reason may be...
Should I really try using rainwater? I'm a bit skeptical about that, but 
sometimes I wonder which water to be cleaner, the tap or the rainwater... 
that's a tough one for me. If I had some direct way to test the waters to 
be sure, that would certainly ease my mind... Should I risk it? What's the 
worse that cold happen?
Often enough times I wished I was already a scientist with access to many 
facilities, just so that I can do my own testing and research.

Aldi

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 4:22 AM, Alchemysa 
mailto:da...@alchemysa.com.auda...@alchemysa.com.au wrote:
If you are distilling water for CS NEVER use the little charcoal 
post-filter satchet that comes with these distillers. They put impurities 
back into the water. (Its the white thing thats sitting on the clear 
plastic receiver jug.)


Also try and distill good rainwater instead of tap water.
And dont boil the distiller dry if you can help it.

David



This looks identical to a unit that is available here in the United States 
at $99.00.  It must be tough to live in Germany.



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Re: CSSteam distillers.

2009-05-30 Thread Golden Aldi
Well I'm just thnking of all th crap that is in the air. We live near
Ludwigshafen, where BASF is situated off the Rhein River. Then we have a
small time factory making hydraulic hoses, so that's their crap can be
smelled, oh, and another factory where dead animal carcasses are
processed... and the chemtrail fallout...
so I'm wondering which water would have less contaminants. WHICH is the
reason for wanting to get the water tested, but you see what kind of prices
I get to deal with.
Maybe if I built some sort of filter thing-a-gigy over the rainbarrel to
pre-filter, then through the Britta filter, and then distilling it.
Your thoughts are greatly appreciated!!
Aldi
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.netwrote:



  The quality of rain water depends on where you live and how long it has
 rained.
 Rain water IS distilled water, but the air container it's in can be quite
 dirty.
  Rain does tend to rinse it though.

 Ode



Re: CSSteam distillers.

2009-05-30 Thread Annie B Smythe
You can get counter top reverse osmosis water filters on eBay for around 
100.00, I've found a couple for less than that, and these filter 
fluoride. They're simple to connect, no under sink plumbing to mess 
with. Then you could distill the filtered water if you want. Makes sense 
to me. I've been putting back a few dollars for one of these RO systems 
for a couple of months now. They beat Brita to heck and gone. Brita 
doesn't filter fluoride. And besides, those stupid pitchers take up 
space in my fridge, and it's a PITA for cooking. I'd rather filter right 
from the faucet. Just sayin'.


Annie


Golden Aldi wrote:
Well I'm just thnking of all th crap that is in the air. We live near 
Ludwigshafen, where BASF is situated off the Rhein River. Then we have 
a small time factory making hydraulic hoses, so that's their crap can 
be smelled, oh, and another factory where dead animal carcasses are 
processed... and the chemtrail fallout...
so I'm wondering which water would have less contaminants. WHICH is 
the reason for wanting to get the water tested, but you see what kind 
of prices I get to deal with.
Maybe if I built some sort of filter thing-a-gigy over the 
rainbarrel to pre-filter, then through the Britta filter, and then 
distilling it.

Your thoughts are greatly appreciated!!
Aldi
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net 
mailto:odecoy...@windstream.net wrote:




 The quality of rain water depends on where you live and how long
it has rained.
Rain water IS distilled water, but the air container it's in can
be quite dirty.
 Rain does tend to rinse it though.

Ode





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Re: CSSteam distillers.

2009-05-30 Thread Golden Aldi
Hi Annie,
Could you please end me a link or two to one of these things? I'm not quite
sure what its suppose to look like... I'm quite done with using the Brita
filter I'm ready to move on to bigger and better things :-)
Thanks,
Aldi

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.comwrote:

 You can get counter top reverse osmosis water filters on eBay for around
 100.00, I've found a couple for less than that, and these filter fluoride.
 They're simple to connect, no under sink plumbing to mess with. Then you
 could distill the filtered water if you want. Makes sense to me. I've been
 putting back a few dollars for one of these RO systems for a couple of
 months now. They beat Brita to heck and gone. Brita doesn't filter fluoride.
 And besides, those stupid pitchers take up space in my fridge, and it's a
 PITA for cooking. I'd rather filter right from the faucet. Just sayin'.

 Annie


Re: CSSteam distillers.

2009-05-30 Thread Annie
Here ya go,

http://shop.ebay.com/items/__4-Stage-Reverse-Osmosis-Water-Filter-System_W0QQ_kwZ4QQ_kwZStageQQ_kwZReverseQQ_kwZOsmosisQQ_kwZWaterQQ_kwZFilterQQ_kwZSystemQQ_ckwZCountertop?_trksid=p3286.m104.l1198

Some of them are more than 100.00 and some are less. The number of listings
go up and down over time. You might be able to find more if you put in
alternate search terms:)

They also have some 8 stage filtering and I think there's one that all one
piece. You can find bath balls, that filter bath water, and shower head
filters too. They've got some whole house systems as well.

But these prices seem pretty reasonable. I haven't checked Amazon.com in a
while. If someone knows where I can find the RO counter top models cheaper,
I'd sure appreciate a link:)

Annie

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 7:51 AM, Golden Aldi goldena...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Annie,
 Could you please end me a link or two to one of these things? I'm not quite
 sure what its suppose to look like... I'm quite done with using the Brita
 filter I'm ready to move on to bigger and better things :-)
 Thanks,
 Aldi

 On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Annie B Smythe anniebsmy...@gmail.comwrote:

 You can get counter top reverse osmosis water filters on eBay for around
 100.00, I've found a couple for less than that, and these filter fluoride.
 They're simple to connect, no under sink plumbing to mess with. Then you
 could distill the filtered water if you want. Makes sense to me. I've been
 putting back a few dollars for one of these RO systems for a couple of
 months now. They beat Brita to heck and gone. Brita doesn't filter fluoride.
 And besides, those stupid pitchers take up space in my fridge, and it's a
 PITA for cooking. I'd rather filter right from the faucet. Just sayin'.

 Annie




CSCS: Steam distillers/xfrmers

2009-05-30 Thread Harold MacDonald
A good transformer should not hum enough to be annoying.If it does ,then it 
is of poor quality.That means the iron laminations are too loose and they 
vibrate in sync. with the current cycles.
If your supplier is close,get them to plug in and try them until you get one 
without the hum.The good ones are usually more costly,but will last longer 
and do a better job,while being more efficient.

Having made my own xfrmers for special applications,I found this out.
Harold 



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CSSteam distillers

2009-05-29 Thread Golden Aldi
I've just ordered a steam distiller, 220V to start making my own water. I've
read that even after distillation, there are still traces of Nitrat
0,10mg/ltr, Chlor ,05mg/ltr, Phosphat 0,02mg/ltr, Natrium 0,07mg/ltr and
Atrazin (have no idea what that is) 0,02mg/ltr.  I believe they used tap
water for distilling, so if I used filtered water, that should get most of
the elements out before distilling, thus giving me a more purer water.
Am I correct in my assumptions?
Aldi
This is the one I bought...
(http://www.ionic-pulser.eu/wasser/dampfdestilliergeraet.html)


Re: CSSteam distillers

2009-05-29 Thread Malcolm
Hi Aldi,

Atrazine is a chlor -azine herbicide; Not good for people and other
living things!

One of the problems with steam distillation is that some substances can
be carried over in the steam, even oils and other organics.  Some of
these compounds have a vapor pressure that is similar to water's.  In
fact one way of purifying various compounds is to put them into a steam
distiller and collect them in the distillate, after which the pure
compound is separated from the distilled water i.e. by evaporation at
low pressure/temperature.

One solution (Eeww! Pun!) to this is to use reverse osmosis, in which a
permeable-to-water-molecules membrane is used - many years ago this was
done in high school chem classes with the old standby cellophane;
Nowadays special membranes are made for the purpose.  Note that these
are Not the same as filters in the usual sense;  A reverse osmosis
filter system requires some additional pressure on the feed side as well
as extra flow to act as a rinse medium, and also several pre-filters
down to 1 micron so the R.O. membrane isn't plugged up by coarser
debris.

If water purified by reverse osmosis is then put through a de-ionisation
cartridge to remove the few remaining ions small enough to make it
through the R.O. membrane, that's about as good as you can get and is
the process used in most labs and medical facilities to make their own
pure water.

Malcolm

On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 15:58 +0200, Golden Aldi wrote:
 I've just ordered a steam distiller, 220V to start making my own
 water. I've read that even after distillation, there are still traces
 of Nitrat 0,10mg/ltr, Chlor ,05mg/ltr, Phosphat 0,02mg/ltr, Natrium
 0,07mg/ltr and Atrazin (have no idea what that is) 0,02mg/ltr.  I
 believe they used tap water for distilling, so if I used filtered
 water, that should get most of the elements out before distilling,
 thus giving me a more purer water.
 
 
 Am I correct in my assumptions?
 
 Aldi
 
 This is the one I bought...
 (http://www.ionic-pulser.eu/wasser/dampfdestilliergeraet.html)


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Re: CSSteam distillers

2009-05-29 Thread Arnold Beland
This looks identical to a unit that is available here in the United States at 
$99.00.  It must be tough to live in Germany.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Golden Aldi 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 6:58 AM
  Subject: CSSteam distillers


  I've just ordered a steam distiller, 220V to start making my own water. I've 
read that even after distillation, there are still traces of Nitrat 0,10mg/ltr, 
Chlor ,05mg/ltr, Phosphat 0,02mg/ltr, Natrium 0,07mg/ltr and Atrazin (have no 
idea what that is) 0,02mg/ltr.  I believe they used tap water for distilling, 
so if I used filtered water, that should get most of the elements out before 
distilling, thus giving me a more purer water.

  Am I correct in my assumptions?
  Aldi
  This is the one I bought...
  (http://www.ionic-pulser.eu/wasser/dampfdestilliergeraet.html)

CSSteam distillers.

2009-05-29 Thread Alchemysa
If you are distilling water for CS NEVER use the little charcoal post- 
filter satchet that comes with these distillers. They put impurities  
back into the water. (Its the white thing thats sitting on the clear  
plastic receiver jug.)


Also try and distill good rainwater instead of tap water.
And dont boil the distiller dry if you can help it.

David




This looks identical to a unit that is available here in the United  
States at $99.00.  It must be tough to live in Germany.

- Original Message -
From: Golden Aldi
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 6:58 AM
Subject: CSSteam distillers

I've just ordered a steam distiller, 220V to start making my own  
water. I've read that even after distillation, there are still  
traces of Nitrat 0,10mg/ltr, Chlor ,05mg/ltr, Phosphat 0,02mg/ltr,  
Natrium 0,07mg/ltr and Atrazin (have no idea what that is) 0,02mg/ 
ltr.  I believe they used tap water for distilling, so if I used  
filtered water, that should get most of the elements out before  
distilling, thus giving me a more purer water.

Am I correct in my assumptions?
Aldi
This is the one I bought...
(http://www.ionic-pulser.eu/wasser/dampfdestilliergeraet.html)



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Re: CSConsumer Reports on Distillers?

2009-02-20 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
I'm in agreement.   I think CR has been dead wrong about vitamin 
therapy and nutraceuticals, and also about mercury fillings.


I'd be curious to know on the OT list what investment advice CR has 
provided.  I haven't read the magazine for some time.





On Thursday, Feb 19, 2009, at 00:38 Asia/Tokyo, Marshall Dudley wrote:


Jonathan B. Britten wrote:
Thanks for checking.  That's what I wanted to know.   Too bad; I 
trust CR.





I do too for testin products but don't for their analysis reports.  
They for instance followed the FDA lead on pronouncing CS as worthless 
and possibly harmful, apparently not researching it at all, and if I 
had followed their investment advice over the years I would be down 
about 60% on my investments instead of up 2,000%.



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Re: CSConsumer Reports on Distillers?

2009-02-18 Thread Marshall Dudley

Jonathan B. Britten wrote:
Thanks for checking.  That's what I wanted to know.   Too bad; I trust 
CR.
I do too for testin products but don't for their analysis reports.  
They for instance followed the FDA lead on pronouncing CS as worthless 
and possibly harmful, apparently not researching it at all, and if I had 
followed their investment advice over the years I would be down about 
60% on my investments instead of up 2,000%.


Marshall


On Wednesday, Feb 18, 2009, at 05:52 Asia/Tokyo, sol wrote:


Jonathan B. Britten wrote:
I don't want to clutter up the list with another discussion of water 
distiller brands, but wonder whether anyone has seen CR (no 
Consumer's Digest) ratings of WDs.   Information much appreciated.
I am an online subscriber to CR but I can't find that they have ever 
reported on them at the CR website.

sol



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RE: CSConsumer Reports on Distillers?

2009-02-17 Thread Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC
Punch in Consumer's report water distiller on a search engine and you
will get several
Bob

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Subject: CSConsumer Reports on Distillers?

I don't want to clutter up the list with another discussion of water
distiller brands, but wonder whether anyone has seen CR (no Consumer's 
Digest) ratings of WDs.   Information much appreciated.Also a 
suggestion:  vendors might want to consider a package deal on EIS 
devices and distillers.   The best of all worlds, of course, would be 
an integrated device that distills, then generates EIS.   I bet there's 
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Re: CSConsumer Reports on Distillers?

2009-02-17 Thread sol

Jonathan B. Britten wrote:
I don't want to clutter up the list with another discussion of water 
distiller brands, but wonder whether anyone has seen CR (no Consumer's 
Digest) ratings of WDs.   Information much appreciated.  
I am an online subscriber to CR but I can't find that they have ever 
reported on them at the CR website.

sol


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Re: CSConsumer Reports on Distillers?

2009-02-17 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
Thanks for checking.  That's what I wanted to know.   Too bad; I trust 
CR.


On Wednesday, Feb 18, 2009, at 05:52 Asia/Tokyo, sol wrote:


Jonathan B. Britten wrote:
I don't want to clutter up the list with another discussion of water 
distiller brands, but wonder whether anyone has seen CR (no 
Consumer's Digest) ratings of WDs.   Information much appreciated.
I am an online subscriber to CR but I can't find that they have ever 
reported on them at the CR website.

sol



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CSConsumer Reports on Distillers?

2009-02-16 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
I don't want to clutter up the list with another discussion of water 
distiller brands, but wonder whether anyone has seen CR (no Consumer's 
Digest) ratings of WDs.   Information much appreciated.Also a 
suggestion:  vendors might want to consider a package deal on EIS 
devices and distillers.   The best of all worlds, of course, would be 
an integrated device that distills, then generates EIS.   I bet there's 
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Re: CSWater Distillers .. do it yourself!

2008-03-25 Thread Kirsteen Wright
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 1:10 AM, Faith Saint Francis 
fesanfranci...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Problem is I never DID make the 'distilled' water, and another problem
 would be the angle of sunrays on the site where you live.


Ah well - if it depends on sunrays, count me out. I live in Scotland. Half
the year I forget what the sun looks like and the other half I'm scared to
blink in case I miss it. But it is so nice to see an On topic post

Cheers
Kirsteen


CSWater Distillers .. do it yourself!

2008-03-24 Thread Faith Saint Francis

Respectd CS circle!
 
So happy to be able to jump out of non-topic thangs.
 
Why don't we 'make' distilled water ourselves?
I have thought this over for years, and I came up with a very natural solution 
.. it seems to be as easy as making your own CS!
Problem is I never DID make the 'distilled' water, and another problem would be 
the angle of sunrays on the site where you live.
 
But I would be most glad to share my thoughts on do-it-yourself distilling 
water, and let's see what comes out.
 
Any more inventors amongst uw? Show yer face!
 
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Re: CSWater Distillers .. do it yourself!

2008-03-24 Thread Smitty
  Why don't we 'make' distilled water ourselves?
  Any more inventors amongst uw? Show yer face!
  FaithStFrancis

I googled and found =

http://www.thesietch.org/projects/distiller/index.htm

http://www.solareagle.com/PREP/DISTILL.HTM

http://survival.com/IVB/index.php?showtopic=14969

There's more but didn't have the time to search.
Smitty


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RE: CSWater Distillers .. do it yourself!

2008-03-24 Thread Silvia Messmer
http://www.toonenglass.com/
http://www.aceglass.com/html/2008/html/index_html.php?page=166Submit=GO
Simple, but not cheap.

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  Why don't we 'make' distilled water ourselves?
  Any more inventors amongst uw? Show yer face!
  FaithStFrancis

I googled and found =

http://www.thesietch.org/projects/distiller/index.htm

http://www.solareagle.com/PREP/DISTILL.HTM

http://survival.com/IVB/index.php?showtopic=14969

There's more but didn't have the time to search.
Smitty


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CSWater Distillers

2007-12-21 Thread faith gagne
The Group may have discussed this before, most likely, but could someone please 
suggest a good inexpensive water distiller?  Much appreciated.  Thanks.

Faith G.

Re: CSWater Distillers

2007-12-21 Thread Leslie
I would be interested also, but do know of one that is
pretty cheap but takes a long time and that would be
www.waterdistiller.com

Leslie 
--- faith gagne jitte...@gis.net wrote:

 The Group may have discussed this before, most
 likely, but could someone please suggest a good
 inexpensive water distiller?  Much appreciated. 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: CSWater Distillers

2004-12-09 Thread Dennis Gulenchin

Ernie,
I bought my distiller from Polar bear water distillers in Edmonton about 
15 years ago and have had very little trouble with it so far. The one I 
got is a model 42d25 that makes 25 gallons in 12-13 hours automatically. 
I would not buy any smaller holding tank than the 25 gal. as that lasts 
me about 10-14 days.  It would be a nuisance to wash and set up every 
day or so. Polar Bear Water Group (1978) LTD. 
http://www.polarbearwater.com/

Dennis

marmar...@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 12/8/2004 4:42:06 PM Central Standard Time, 
epa...@sympatico.ca writes:


Would you know of a good water distiller? Sears has one but they
want 250.00 Canadian. It’s a “KEN”MORE.

Hi Ernie.  I'm sorry, I can't help you with a water distiller -- I've 
never used one.  I can tell you this, though -- I'm totally sold on 
Sears' appliances, Kenmore specifically.  My two sets of Kenmore 
washers and dryers have lasted almost twenty years each.  And everyone 
I talk to that has Sears' Kenmore appliances says the same thing.  So, 
it may be very well worth your while (and dollars) to get the Kenmore 
water distiller, unless that price is totally out of line with other 
brands.  I hope that others on the list can give you better input.  MA





RE: CSWater Distillers

2004-12-09 Thread Yogiboy
 
 
-Original Message-
From: Dennis Gulenchin [mailto:dgulenc...@mb.sympatico.ca] 
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 8:02 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSWater Distillers
 
Ernie,
I bought my distiller from Polar bear water distillers in Edmonton about
15 years ago and have had very little trouble with it so far. The one I
got is a model 42d25 that makes 25 gallons in 12-13 hours automatically.
I would not buy any smaller holding tank than the 25 gal. as that lasts
me about 10-14 days.  It would be a nuisance to wash and set up every
day or so. Polar Bear Water Group (1978) LTD.
http://www.polarbearwater.com/ 
Dennis

Thanks Dennis I'll look into it. J 


CSWater distillers

2004-11-08 Thread JS Campbell
Can you please tell me if these counter top distillers you've been
mentioning make as
good quality CS as you'd get with DW?

I seem to remember reading that they didn't produce sufficiently pure
water? Or is that wrong?

Is it necessary to double distill or would a single distillation suffice?

Are there any specific features you need to look out for in a
distiller suitable for producing water for making CS?

Thanks,
BW,
Sheila




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Re: CSWater Distillers

2004-09-18 Thread Ode Coyote
 The scouring pad has 'no' effect.
It's just work for no reason.

The electrodes just get dirty again very quickly..it's part of the process, so just let the process be what it is.
Wipe off the loose stuff and let er rip.

Ode


At 07:32 PM 9/17/2004 +, you wrote: 

Hi Garnet,  Yesterday you said .


'I simply wipe it out after each batch and soak it in vinegar and water over night 
every 6 or 7th batch, when the mineral deposits that won't wipe out get to be the size of a quarter on the bottom of the vessel'.. 


This sounds like a good idea to me and saves dollars for water distiller cleaner.
What type of vinegar do you use and when you soak overnight,  how much vinegar do you add?  


Also,  for cleaning electrodes you suggest Kleenex tissues.  I have been taught to use a green scouring pad and clean till the silver shines,  I cant get the same result with tissues.  Is there a reason to use only the tissues?  ie.  does the scouring pad cause some ill-effect?


I'm very grateful for all I have learned on the list in the last few days,  being an amateur... thanks to those who have raised questions and had expert answers,  much has been clarified for myself.


Cheers


elle





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Re: CSWater Distillers

2004-09-18 Thread sol
OH, I don't know, considering the amount of silver polished off the 
electrodes with every use of a scouring pad, it probably makes someone 
some money selling replacement electrodes

sol

Ode Coyote wrote:


The scouring pad has 'no' effect.
It's just work for no reason.





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CSWater Distillers

2004-09-17 Thread elle roberts

Hi Garnet, Yesterday you said .'I simply wipe it out after each batch and soak it in vinegar and water over night 
every 6 or 7th batch, when the mineral deposits that won't wipe out get to be the size of a quarter on the bottom of the vessel'..

This sounds like a good idea to me and saves dollars for water distiller cleaner.
What type of vinegar do you use and when you soak overnight, how much vinegar do you add? 

Also, for cleaning electrodes you suggest Kleenex tissues. I have been taught to use a green scouring pad and clean till the silver shines, I cant get the same result with tissues. Is there a reason to use only the tissues? ie. does the scouring pad cause some ill-effect?

I'm very grateful for all I have learned on the list in the last few days, being an amateur... thanks to those who have raised questions and had expert answers, much has been clarified for myself.

Cheers

elle

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Re: CSWater Distillers

2004-09-17 Thread Garnet
I use either 9% white pickling vinegar or the regular 5% white vinegar.
The 9% just allows me to use less vinegar, but it is not always
available in a store brand product. Store brand being cheaper than brand
names. If I am using 5% I use about two cups (I really have not measured
exactly), with 9% more like a cup, then fill the rest of the way with
hot water and let sit over night or until most of the deposits are
completely dissolved. (This method works for any kind of hard water
deposits as well. Being on well water with a hardness of 42, moderate,
we deal with this on faucets and toilets.) You don't need distiller
cleaner at all. Works in coffe makers too.

I tried the green scrubbies and it was more work. I read on this list to
just wipe them lightly, that they did not have to shine. Besides my
family kept using my dedicated scrubbie to wash dishes then I could not
use it any longer.

Garnet



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CSWater Distillers

2003-06-11 Thread Medwith, Robert
By the way on the Love water distillers all have the internal parts some are
more it is just
for the fancy shell. I got the plane white one they all come with cleaner
and charcoal bags.
I have not used the Charcoal I might if I was distilling for drinking water.
I just got back on I see some one found the site.
 
   Bob


CSFW: Love and American Water Distillers

2003-06-04 Thread Medwith, Robert
All three of the first ones are the same except for the Fancy outsides,
Insides are same

Bob


Subject: Love and American Water Distillers


  
 
 
http://wholesalewaterdistillers.com/distiller-water/american-water-distiller
s/love-water-distiller.html
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CSFW: Water Distillers

2002-12-03 Thread Medwith, Robert

 Water Distillers I have seen lots on the net, the one that looks the best
 for the money
 had a stainless steel boiling chamber and cooling fins for around a 100$
 When you use one why the filters they try to sell you
 I would think all you would need is the distiller
 All thoughts would be appreciated on a Distiller and filters
 
Bob
 


Re: CSFW: Water Distillers

2002-12-03 Thread EagleseyeFlight
In a message dated 12/3/2002 3:45:49 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
medwi...@tacom.army.mil writes:

 Water Distillers I have seen lots on the net, the one that looks the best 
 for the money 
 had a stainless steel boiling chamber and cooling fins for around a 100$ 

Do you have a name and web address?


CSWater Distillers

2002-12-02 Thread Medwith, Robert
Water Distillers I have seen lots on the net, the one that looks the best
for the money
had a stainless steel boiling chamber and cooling fins for around a 100$
When you use one why the filters they try to sell you
I would think all you would need is the distiller
All thoughts would be appreciated on a Distiller and filters

   Bob



RE: CSCS RE Steam Distillers

2002-01-28 Thread Martin, Bill (CXO)
If you like Sears products, they have a couple of models available. I
bought the smaller one ($130). which produces just under a gallon in
about 5 hours. The bigger one ($180) will do just over a gallon in 6
hrs.
 
I bought mine from Sears, because I know they will stand behind their
product.

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Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 2:48 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSCS RE Steam Distillers


Does anybody have good recommends for a steam Distiller?Something
reasonable.I don't trust my local supply of distilled water.
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Re: CSCS RE Steam Distillers

2002-01-27 Thread TJ Garland


Nothing wrong with distilled water that a little fresh squezed lemon 
wouldn't help per Carey Reams-right Terry?  TJ



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Re: CSCS RE Steam Distillers

2002-01-26 Thread Tel Tofflemire
Try this link
Tel Tofflemire
Phoenix,AZ
http://www.wholesalewaterdistillers.com/
Harold MacDonald wrote:

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 reasonable.I don't trust my local supply of distilled water.Harold
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CSCS RE Steam Distillers

2002-01-25 Thread Harold MacDonald
Does anybody have good recommends for a steam Distiller?Something reasonable.I 
don't trust my local supply of distilled water.
Harold


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Re: CSCS RE Steam Distillers

2002-01-25 Thread catmagnet
http://www.wholesalewaterdistillers.com/

Just received the Love Countertop Distiller, purchased from link above. Am 
thrilled with it after 2 days use. Total cost with shipping was $119(price 
of Love Countertop was $99). Makes 3-4 gallons per day. (saved plastic water 
bottles galore) Phone call informed that this is good deal; significant jump in 
price to $300-500 to find anything better.

Apparently distilled and RO water are dead, so am getting info and 
product/solutions on Energetic live water from persons i trust. Was told to 
first get on Energetic water before starting fulvic acid minerals. The chlorine 
interacts badly with fulvic acid, as i understood it.

New to this list, it is a privilege to have found you all. Thank you.




Harold wrote:
  Does anybody have good recommends for a steam Distiller?Something 
reasonable.I don't trust my local supply of distilled water.
  Harold





CSRe: Copper tubing for distillers

1999-08-19 Thread Dale Gillilan
Hi, James.

h... You present some very good information.  Now that I think about it,
I've known for some time that drinking a lot of distilled water will leach
the minerals out of your body.  I learned this somewhere years ago when I
bought a distiller and starting drinking that exclusively.  We started
supplementing with colloidal minerals to compensate.  And, if I remember right,
the coils on the distiller are stainless.  Have to check that out...

So, I agree with you, and, in the absence of additional info to the contrary, I
would stay away from copper...

Dale

James Osbourne, Holmes wrote:

 HI Dale,

 I do not have a cite handy regarding the leaching of copper by very pure
 water.  It is one of those things that I learned a long time ago.

 One has to be careful though, about thoughtlessly accepting anything that
 everyone knows is true, because a lot of the time everyone is wrong.

 My initial source was the installation details for a distilled water
 distribution system for home use.  It specifically forbid copper tubing.

 Having never done it, I do not know what volume of  distilled water will
 have to pass through copper  tubing of a specific wall thickness before it
 makes a hole.  Based on my experience with electrolysis caused by a small
 DC current passing through copper, ---a similar condition--- a pinhole
 could open in a few months, possibly in less than a year.   Even if
 mechanical failure is not a serious problem, I would be concerned about the
 amount of copper consumed.  Copper is used a germicidal agent; it is quite
 effective against fungi.
 Germicides kill living cells.

 The water used in water distribution systems usually has relatively high
 concentrations of dissolved solids when compared with distilled water, and
 the dissolved substances---often calcium and magnesium carbonate---balances
 the charges of the small amount of water which ionizes in distilled water.

 Perhaps one of the pro chemists on the list will comment on the details of
 this process.

 You may be able to find a table in a chemical reference book such as
 Langes's Handbook of Chemistry, or the CRC Handbook listing  the solubility
 of various elements.  I think the action takes place because the
 disassociated water is much more reactive ---lacking some small amount of
 ionized dissolved substance in the water to balance  H+ and -OH.

 Try calling a company which manufacturers small stills for domestic use.
  One such is: Waterwise 1 (800) 874-9028.

 If you do dig up a solid reference, I would very much appreciate a copy of
 it or a pointer to the source.

 James Osbourne, Holmes

 a...@trail.com

 -Original Message-
 From:   Dale Gillilan [SMTP:positivechanges.hypno...@gte.net]
 Sent:   Tuesday, August 17, 1999 7:22 PM
 To: a...@trail.com; 'silver-list@eskimo.com'
 Subject:Copper tubing for distillers

 How do they get away with using it as the standard for household
 plumbing for both hot and cold water?

 Why do you say the tubing will develop holes?  I've never seen that
 happen.

 You may be right about the leaching of copper, but I would like to see
 some references supporting that position.

 I agree with your comments about stainless.

 Dale

 Do not use copper in a water distillation system so that it comes into
 contact with pure water vapor or liquid.  The copper will go into
 solution
 and in high concentrations is toxic.  Also, so much copper is lost that
 the
 system will soon develop holes.  Water and steam will come out the
 holes.
 
 Short term use, as sometimes necessary at sea, may not be harmful, but
 one
 would have to do the math to make sure.
 
 Stainless steel tubing is a much better choice, preferably surgical
 grade.
 
 James Osbourne, Holmes
 
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Re: Distillers

1998-05-24 Thread Susan M. Yensen
Resent-Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 16:28:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joseph jos...@michianatoday.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: Distillers
Did the info with your unit give any type of cost to make a gallon? Does it
have any other filters with it? How long does it take to make a gallon?

Joe,

no special info like that came.  Takes about 2-3 hrs to make a gallon.
perhaps a little less.

i used it to heat kitchen in winter, you would want it outside or baSEMENT
IN SUMMER.

it has tubing you connect to a drain in front for flushing--i heat vinegar
with lid off--boil a bit and drain--takes care of residue safely, then
rerinse one more time.  another tubing connects to output after coils where
steam condenses,  connected to that is a stainless tube with screen and
acivated charcoal, then i put the end of that in clean rinsed glass
container and walla distilled water! it automatically shuts itself off when
water level is low, so i open top pour in more water and good to go.

This is an old model,  they have newer ones with reservoirs and so forth,
for my purposes this works great!  sorry so late to reply, sick with sepsis
iv's helping 3 different ones think i was just this side of heaven there,
attribute to all prayers for me and doc to diagnose.  interesting is the
Rife device was down when this exploded.  so must have been keeping at bay,
just never found the right MOR.  sorry, do you know  about Rife?

many blessings to you my friend

Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer
Susan



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Re: Distillers

1998-05-20 Thread Joseph
Hi Susan
Did the info with your unit give any type of cost to make a gallon? Does it
have any other filters with it? How long does it take to make a gallon? 
Thanks
Joe


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 From: Susan M. Yensen syen...@clearwater.net
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: Distillers
 Date: Monday, May 18, 1998 3:43 PM
 
 Would like to get some info on the various distillers being used out
there.
 Brand names, cost, any problems etc.
 
 I am looking for one.
 
 Thanks
 Joe
 
 Hi,
 
 I have a used Polar Bear and It works great---used!
 
 Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer
 Susan
 
 
 
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Re: Distillers

1998-05-18 Thread Susan M. Yensen
Would like to get some info on the various distillers being used out there.
Brand names, cost, any problems etc.

I am looking for one.

Thanks
Joe

Hi,

I have a used Polar Bear and It works great---used!

Life is Fragile. Handle with Prayer
Susan



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