subject:"RE\: CS>Beck protocol\?"

Re: CS>Beck Protocol

2015-03-04 Thread Dee

Thanks Kirsteen I've just been having a look at them and they look good.  I 
find Amazon is very expensive on a lot of things nowDee

Sent from my iPad

> On 3 Mar 2015, at 23:38, Kirsteen Wright  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Dee, you can get a good selection of Green pastures cod liver oils from 
> funkyraw.com. here in the UK. They're a good firm to deal with. Ive used them 
> a lot. Their prices and postage are the most reasonable I've found.
> 
> Cheers 
> Kirsteen
> 
>> On 3 Mar 2015 08:52, "Dee"  wrote:
>> Hi Victor do you know if this is available in the UK only I get the feeling 
>> the postage will be prohibitive.Dee
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 3 Mar 2015, at 00:31, Victor Cozzetto  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi RaVen,
>>> 
>>> You are probably right, although I think I resolved all my nutritional 
>>> deficiencies for the moment.
>>> 
>>> The most potent superfood that I use is a combination of Fermented Cod 
>>> Liver Oil (FCLO) and high vitamin Butter Oil (BO). The only source I trust 
>>> for these items is Green Pasture, which brands their products as 'Blue Ice':
>>> 
>>> greenpasture.org
>>> 
>>> They also have a nice combo product called Infused Coconut Oil:
>>> http://www.greenpasture.org/public/Products/InfusedCoconutOil/
>>> 
>>> If you research, you will notice that trusted distributers around the world 
>>> are selling these Blue Ice products that are provided by Green Pasture. 
>>> Dave and Barb Wentzel are supper serious about maintaining the quality and 
>>> purity of their products. They are heroes in my book.
>>> 
>>> Those are the products that I use when I think I need a 'supplement' for my 
>>> diet - meaning that I take a small spoonful of the above products two or 
>>> three of times a day. But I only do that when I think my diet is lacking. I 
>>> also use their coconut ghee (ghee is basically BO).
>>> 
>>> A similar combination is natto and ghee. These are foods, not supplements, 
>>> so it can be easier to implement them into your diet (depending on your 
>>> tastes). There are many different good brands of those products, but you do 
>>> have to be careful, as there are many bad or fake ghee products these days. 
>>> Natto is a Japanese food that can be difficult to find (It is fermented 
>>> soybean).
>>> 
>>> A key point to the above is the nutritional synergy between the products, 
>>> so they must be taken together to have the maximum impact. For example, 
>>> cooking natto and eggs in ghee is one way. Taking a spoonful of the Infused 
>>> Coconut Oil product is another.
>>> 
>>> Another important point is not what we add, but what we remove: No white 
>>> sugar or white flour if possible. I use Einkorn and Spelt, which I soak and 
>>> sprout sometimes. Grains block our ability to absorb nutrition, so they 
>>> must be eliminated or processed properly - fermenting, soaking, souring, 
>>> sprouting, etc. This is one of the 'secrets' that Weston Price found among 
>>> all of the 'primitive' people that used grains.
>>> 
>>> OK, so this email is too long. Sorry about that. I will send another about 
>>> some 'fun' foods that I use to aid my nutrition.
>>> 
>>> Victor
>>> 
>>> 
 On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 1:48 AM, ASL raVen  wrote:
 
 Hi Victor, 
 I wonder if you have vitamin A deficiency? I learned that Vitamin A is 
 related to skin issues and teeth issues. 
 
 I read that fibromyalgia could stem from an infected root canal and sure 
 enough I had a lot of issues with my elbow and shoulder which matched 
 tooth that I had root canal on - I'm going to have it removed someday and 
 see how my health improves after that. (also see how it improves the FMS?) 
 
 What are the superfoods you mentioned about? 
 
 RaVen 
>>>

Re: CS>Beck Protocol

2015-03-04 Thread Dee

Thank you for the info Victor - much appreciatedDee

Sent from my iPad

> On 3 Mar 2015, at 23:30, Victor Cozzetto  wrote:
> 
> Sorry Dee lol
> 
> Yes, you can get the Green Pasture products from many distributors in the UK. 
> The best way to find them is to search for 'Blue Ice Code Liver Oil UK' or 
> similar with 'Blue Ice' in it. You will see many vendors. Or you can go 
> straight to Amazon.co.uk and do the same search. You will see many products.
> 
> These products have quite a foul taste for most people, which is why capsule 
> options are popular. However, the oils are much more cost effective. It is 
> helpful to read all the information on the Green Pasture website to get a 
> good idea about what to expect.
> 
> Victor
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 1:10 AM, Dee  wrote:
>> Hi Victor, I was actually talking about the fermented cod liver oil from 
>> green pasture.com.  I myself have the Autozap and Zappicator which I believe 
>> is supposedly Hulda Clark.Dee
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 3 Mar 2015, at 13:31, Victor Cozzetto  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Dee,
>>> 
>>> I have struggled myself with the idea of how to 'easily' get these devices. 
>>> Dr. Beck was amazing, as he traveled around and showed people how to build 
>>> these devices very cheaply, and he published all the schematics. However, 
>>> that is still not practical for most of us.
>>> 
>>> I have the devices from Sota Instruments in Canada, and I am not sure if 
>>> they ship to the UK. And it is expensive in any case, even without 
>>> shipping. There are various devices and plans published online, but I'm 
>>> afraid that my opinion is not worth much concerning those. Others on this 
>>> list know far more than I do. I have seen the 'Godzilla' zapper mentioned 
>>> here and elsewhere previously, and of course the Hulda Clark device was 
>>> just mentioned. But again, I am not sure if these are equivalent to the 
>>> actual Beck devices.
>>> 
>>> In late 2013 I actually purchased another set of devices from Sota, as they 
>>> were the only devices that I was confident in. However, that speaks as much 
>>> to my ignorance as my trust. I simply have not made enough effort to get 
>>> comfortable with alternatives, and I am too lazy to build my own. The Sota 
>>> devices have served me well, with my eight year old set still getting 
>>> regular use, and a new set in NY being used by family members. As Nancy 
>>> mentioned, the previous blood electrification unit was quite uncomfortable 
>>> for most people; however, the newer unit is much better, though still 
>>> cumbersome. I am curious about alternatives, so I will be educating myself 
>>> further.
>>> 
>>> I imagine that you can get a device for making ozonated water in the UK, 
>>> and perhaps someone here has a recommendation. The Sota devices are good 
>>> machines, and I recommend them, but I also appreciate that cost and 
>>> logistics can be a deal breaker.
>>> 
>>> I hope others have better answers for you.
>>> 
>>> Victor
>>> 
 On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Dee  wrote:
 Hi Victor do you know if this is available in the UK only I get the 
 feeling the postage will be prohibitive.Dee
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
> On 3 Mar 2015, at 00:31, Victor Cozzetto  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi RaVen,
> 
> You are probably right, although I think I resolved all my nutritional 
> deficiencies for the moment.
> 
> The most potent superfood that I use is a combination of Fermented Cod 
> Liver Oil (FCLO) and high vitamin Butter Oil (BO). The only source I 
> trust for these items is Green Pasture, which brands their products as 
> 'Blue Ice':
> 
> greenpasture.org
> 
> They also have a nice combo product called Infused Coconut Oil:
> http://www.greenpasture.org/public/Products/InfusedCoconutOil/
> 
> If you research, you will notice that trusted distributers around the 
> world are selling these Blue Ice products that are provided by Green 
> Pasture. Dave and Barb Wentzel are supper serious about maintaining the 
> quality and purity of their products. They are heroes in my book.
> 
> Those are the products that I use when I think I need a 'supplement' for 
> my diet - meaning that I take a small spoonful of the above products two 
> or three of times a day. But I only do that when I think my diet is 
> lacking. I also use their coconut ghee (ghee is basically BO).
> 
> A similar combination is natto and ghee. These are foods, not 
> supplements, so it can be easier to implement them into your diet 
> (depending on your tastes). There are many different good brands of those 
> products, but you do have to be careful, as there are many bad or fake 
> ghee products these days. Natto is a Japanese food that can be difficult 
> to find (It is fermented soybean).
> 
> A key point to the above is the nutritional synergy between th

Re: CS>Beck Protocol

2015-03-04 Thread Nancy Winiecki

 

 On Tuesday, March 3, 2015 4:16 PM, Kirsteen Wright 
 wrote:
   

 Hi Dee, you can get a good selection of Green pastures cod liver oils from 
funkyraw.com. here in the UK. They're a good firm to deal with. Ive used them a 
lot. Their prices and postage are the most reasonable I've found.Cheers 
Kirsteen On 3 Mar 2015 08:52, "Dee"  wrote:

Hi Victor do you know if this is available in the UK only I get the feeling the 
postage will be prohibitive.Dee

Sent from my iPad
On 3 Mar 2015, at 00:31, Victor Cozzetto  wrote:


Hi RaVen,
You are probably right, although I think I resolved all my nutritional 
deficiencies for the moment.
The most potent superfood that I use is a combination of Fermented Cod Liver 
Oil (FCLO) and high vitamin Butter Oil (BO). The only source I trust for these 
items is Green Pasture, which brands their products as 'Blue Ice':
greenpasture.org
They also have a nice combo product called Infused Coconut 
Oil:http://www.greenpasture.org/public/Products/InfusedCoconutOil/

If you research, you will notice that trusted distributers around the world are 
selling these Blue Ice products that are provided by Green Pasture. Dave and 
Barb Wentzel are supper serious about maintaining the quality and purity of 
their products. They are heroes in my book.
Those are the products that I use when I think I need a 'supplement' for my 
diet - meaning that I take a small spoonful of the above products two or three 
of times a day. But I only do that when I think my diet is lacking. I also use 
their coconut ghee (ghee is basically BO).
A similar combination is natto and ghee. These are foods, not supplements, so 
it can be easier to implement them into your diet (depending on your tastes). 
There are many different good brands of those products, but you do have to be 
careful, as there are many bad or fake ghee products these days. Natto is a 
Japanese food that can be difficult to find (It is fermented soybean).
A key point to the above is the nutritional synergy between the products, so 
they must be taken together to have the maximum impact. For example, cooking 
natto and eggs in ghee is one way. Taking a spoonful of the Infused Coconut Oil 
product is another.
Another important point is not what we add, but what we remove: No white sugar 
or white flour if possible. I use Einkorn and Spelt, which I soak and sprout 
sometimes. Grains block our ability to absorb nutrition, so they must be 
eliminated or processed properly - fermenting, soaking, souring, sprouting, 
etc. This is one of the 'secrets' that Weston Price found among all of the 
'primitive' people that used grains.
OK, so this email is too long. Sorry about that. I will send another about some 
'fun' foods that I use to aid my nutrition.
Victor

On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 1:48 AM, ASL raVen  wrote:


Hi Victor, I wonder if you have vitamin A deficiency? I learned that Vitamin A 
is related to skin issues and teeth issues. 
I read that fibromyalgia could stem from an infected root canal and sure enough 
I had a lot of issues with my elbow and shoulder which matched tooth that I had 
root canal on - I'm going to have it removed someday and see how my health 
improves after that. (also see how it improves the FMS?) 
What are the superfoods you mentioned about? 

RaVen

Re: CS>Beck Protocol

2015-03-03 Thread Kirsteen Wright

Hi Dee, you can get a good selection of Green pastures cod liver oils from
funkyraw.com. here in the UK. They're a good firm to deal with. Ive used
them a lot. Their prices and postage are the most reasonable I've found.

Cheers
Kirsteen
On 3 Mar 2015 08:52, "Dee"  wrote:

> Hi Victor do you know if this is available in the UK only I get the
> feeling the postage will be prohibitive.Dee
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 3 Mar 2015, at 00:31, Victor Cozzetto 
> wrote:
>
> Hi RaVen,
>
> You are probably right, although I think I resolved all my nutritional
> deficiencies for the moment.
>
> The most potent superfood that I use is a combination of Fermented Cod
> Liver Oil (FCLO) and high vitamin Butter Oil (BO). The only source I trust
> for these items is Green Pasture, which brands their products as 'Blue Ice':
>
> greenpasture.org
>
> They also have a nice combo product called Infused Coconut Oil:
> http://www.greenpasture.org/public/Products/InfusedCoconutOil/
>
> If you research, you will notice that trusted distributers around the
> world are selling these Blue Ice products that are provided by Green
> Pasture. Dave and Barb Wentzel are supper serious about maintaining the
> quality and purity of their products. They are heroes in my book.
>
> Those are the products that I use when I think I need a 'supplement' for
> my diet - meaning that I take a small spoonful of the above products two or
> three of times a day. But I only do that when I think my diet is lacking. I
> also use their coconut ghee (ghee is basically BO).
>
> A similar combination is natto and ghee. These are foods, not supplements,
> so it can be easier to implement them into your diet (depending on your
> tastes). There are many different good brands of those products, but you do
> have to be careful, as there are many bad or fake ghee products these days.
> Natto is a Japanese food that can be difficult to find (It is fermented
> soybean).
>
> A key point to the above is the nutritional synergy between the products,
> so they must be taken together to have the maximum impact. For example,
> cooking natto and eggs in ghee is one way. Taking a spoonful of the Infused
> Coconut Oil product is another.
>
> Another important point is not what we add, but what we remove: No white
> sugar or white flour if possible. I use Einkorn and Spelt, which I soak and
> sprout sometimes. Grains block our ability to absorb nutrition, so they
> must be eliminated or processed properly - fermenting, soaking, souring,
> sprouting, etc. This is one of the 'secrets' that Weston Price found among
> all of the 'primitive' people that used grains.
>
> OK, so this email is too long. Sorry about that. I will send another about
> some 'fun' foods that I use to aid my nutrition.
>
> Victor
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 1:48 AM, ASL raVen  wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Victor,
>> I wonder if you have vitamin A deficiency? I learned that Vitamin A is
>> related to skin issues and teeth issues.
>>
>> I read that fibromyalgia could stem from an infected root canal and sure
>> enough I had a lot of issues with my elbow and shoulder which matched tooth
>> that I had root canal on - I'm going to have it removed someday and see how
>> my health improves after that. (also see how it improves the FMS?)
>>
>> What are the superfoods you mentioned about?
>>
>> RaVen
>>
>
>

Re: CS>Beck Protocol

2015-03-03 Thread Victor Cozzetto

Sorry Dee lol

Yes, you can get the Green Pasture products from many distributors in the
UK. The best way to find them is to search for 'Blue Ice Code Liver Oil UK'
or similar with 'Blue Ice' in it. You will see many vendors. Or you can go
straight to Amazon.co.uk and do the same search. You will see many products.

These products have quite a foul taste for most people, which is why
capsule options are popular. However, the oils are much more cost
effective. It is helpful to read all the information on the Green Pasture
website to get a good idea about what to expect.

Victor


On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 1:10 AM, Dee  wrote:

> Hi Victor, I was actually talking about the fermented cod liver oil from
> green pasture.com.  I myself have the Autozap and Zappicator which I
> believe is supposedly Hulda Clark.Dee
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 3 Mar 2015, at 13:31, Victor Cozzetto 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Dee,
>
> I have struggled myself with the idea of how to 'easily' get these
> devices. Dr. Beck was amazing, as he traveled around and showed people how
> to build these devices very cheaply, and he published all the schematics.
> However, that is still not practical for most of us.
>
> I have the devices from Sota Instruments in Canada, and I am not sure if
> they ship to the UK. And it is expensive in any case, even without
> shipping. There are various devices and plans published online, but I'm
> afraid that my opinion is not worth much concerning those. Others on this
> list know far more than I do. I have seen the 'Godzilla' zapper mentioned
> here and elsewhere previously, and of course the Hulda Clark device was
> just mentioned. But again, I am not sure if these are equivalent to the
> actual Beck devices.
>
> In late 2013 I actually purchased another set of devices from Sota, as
> they were the only devices that I was confident in. However, that speaks as
> much to my ignorance as my trust. I simply have not made enough effort to
> get comfortable with alternatives, and I am too lazy to build my own. The
> Sota devices have served me well, with my eight year old set still getting
> regular use, and a new set in NY being used by family members. As Nancy
> mentioned, the previous blood electrification unit was quite uncomfortable
> for most people; however, the newer unit is much better, though still
> cumbersome. I am curious about alternatives, so I will be educating myself
> further.
>
> I imagine that you can get a device for making ozonated water in the UK,
> and perhaps someone here has a recommendation. The Sota devices are good
> machines, and I recommend them, but I also appreciate that cost and
> logistics can be a deal breaker.
>
> I hope others have better answers for you.
>
> Victor
>
> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Dee  wrote:
>
>> Hi Victor do you know if this is available in the UK only I get the
>> feeling the postage will be prohibitive.Dee
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On 3 Mar 2015, at 00:31, Victor Cozzetto 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi RaVen,
>>
>> You are probably right, although I think I resolved all my nutritional
>> deficiencies for the moment.
>>
>> The most potent superfood that I use is a combination of Fermented Cod
>> Liver Oil (FCLO) and high vitamin Butter Oil (BO). The only source I trust
>> for these items is Green Pasture, which brands their products as 'Blue Ice':
>>
>> greenpasture.org
>>
>> They also have a nice combo product called Infused Coconut Oil:
>> http://www.greenpasture.org/public/Products/InfusedCoconutOil/
>>
>> If you research, you will notice that trusted distributers around the
>> world are selling these Blue Ice products that are provided by Green
>> Pasture. Dave and Barb Wentzel are supper serious about maintaining the
>> quality and purity of their products. They are heroes in my book.
>>
>> Those are the products that I use when I think I need a 'supplement' for
>> my diet - meaning that I take a small spoonful of the above products two or
>> three of times a day. But I only do that when I think my diet is lacking. I
>> also use their coconut ghee (ghee is basically BO).
>>
>> A similar combination is natto and ghee. These are foods, not
>> supplements, so it can be easier to implement them into your diet
>> (depending on your tastes). There are many different good brands of those
>> products, but you do have to be careful, as there are many bad or fake ghee
>> products these days. Natto is a Japanese food that can be difficult to find
>> (It is fermented soybean).
>>
>> A key point to the above is the nutritional synergy between the products,
>> so they must be taken together to have the maximum impact. For example,
>> cooking natto and eggs in ghee is one way. Taking a spoonful of the Infused
>> Coconut Oil product is another.
>>
>> Another important point is not what we add, but what we remove: No white
>> sugar or white flour if possible. I use Einkorn and Spelt, which I soak and
>> sprout sometimes. Grains block our ability to absorb nutrition, so the

Re: CS>Beck Protocol

2015-03-03 Thread Sandra George

Hi Victor - now I know where you live, and your email was not too long because 
it contained so much information
you have experienced which for me is very very useful so thanks and keep them 
coming I love to hear what others
are doing 
Cheers
Sandee🐬
Attitude is everything !!!
Sandra George
Colloidal Silver Products
Eye Drops & Topical Gel
aliveagai...@yahoo.com



On 2 Mar 2015, at 20:31, Victor Cozzetto  wrote:

Hi RaVen,

You are probably right, although I think I resolved all my nutritional 
deficiencies for the moment.

The most potent superfood that I use is a combination of Fermented Cod Liver 
Oil (FCLO) and high vitamin Butter Oil (BO). The only source I trust for these 
items is Green Pasture, which brands their products as 'Blue Ice':

greenpasture.org

They also have a nice combo product called Infused Coconut Oil:
http://www.greenpasture.org/public/Products/InfusedCoconutOil/

If you research, you will notice that trusted distributers around the world are 
selling these Blue Ice products that are provided by Green Pasture. Dave and 
Barb Wentzel are supper serious about maintaining the quality and purity of 
their products. They are heroes in my book.

Those are the products that I use when I think I need a 'supplement' for my 
diet - meaning that I take a small spoonful of the above products two or three 
of times a day. But I only do that when I think my diet is lacking. I also use 
their coconut ghee (ghee is basically BO).

A similar combination is natto and ghee. These are foods, not supplements, so 
it can be easier to implement them into your diet (depending on your tastes). 
There are many different good brands of those products, but you do have to be 
careful, as there are many bad or fake ghee products these days. Natto is a 
Japanese food that can be difficult to find (It is fermented soybean).

A key point to the above is the nutritional synergy between the products, so 
they must be taken together to have the maximum impact. For example, cooking 
natto and eggs in ghee is one way. Taking a spoonful of the Infused Coconut Oil 
product is another.

Another important point is not what we add, but what we remove: No white sugar 
or white flour if possible. I use Einkorn and Spelt, which I soak and sprout 
sometimes. Grains block our ability to absorb nutrition, so they must be 
eliminated or processed properly - fermenting, soaking, souring, sprouting, 
etc. This is one of the 'secrets' that Weston Price found among all of the 
'primitive' people that used grains.

OK, so this email is too long. Sorry about that. I will send another about some 
'fun' foods that I use to aid my nutrition.

Victor


On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 1:48 AM, ASL raVen  wrote:

Hi Victor, 
I wonder if you have vitamin A deficiency? I learned that Vitamin A is related 
to skin issues and teeth issues. 

I read that fibromyalgia could stem from an infected root canal and sure enough 
I had a lot of issues with my elbow and shoulder which matched tooth that I had 
root canal on - I'm going to have it removed someday and see how my health 
improves after that. (also see how it improves the FMS?) 

What are the superfoods you mentioned about? 

RaVen 







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Re: CS>Beck Protocol

2015-03-03 Thread Joe Huard


Hi RaVen,
How about trying kinesiology (muscle testing) or dousing with a pendulum 
to get the answers to what you are allergic to. It already looks like 
you aren't allergic to cod and apples, and are allergic to other things.

Joe

On 2015-03-03 11:19 AM, ASL raVen wrote:


Hi
Last year I've tried a zapper but it didn't seem to do anything for me 
after 3 weeks of using it. I guess it being cheaply priced, it was 
probably not a real effective little machine as I hoped it'd be. Is 
Hulda Clark's zappers stronger?
What are we supposed to feel with a zapper? Does it alkaline the 
blood? What does a zapper do exactly?


About Green Pastures - I'm allergic to Cod Fish --- would that mean 
I'd be allergic to Cod fish's oil too? I'm tempted to try it. 
Truthfully when I ate cod fish in the past, I didn't notice any 
serious reactions to it. But doctor took a skin allergic test (poking 
needles and see how much my skin would puff up kind) --- cod fish and 
halibut fish and apples were the only things that swelled up.  But 
when I ate apple or the fish, I felt fine. What gives? Should I trust 
these seemingly useless skin prick allergy test?
The other foods and environmental things that bothers me immensely did 
not show up in that test.


Last question - with the colloidal silver I made a few weeks ago --- 
should it be stored in glass bottles only (and tinted?)  - there's one 
plastic bottle that I bought through Amazon of another C.S. brand -- I 
saved it and reused it to put my home made brew in it.  Then I worried 
about plastic filtering into it. Should I store CS liquid in glass only?



RaVen



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Re: CS>Beck Protocol

2015-03-03 Thread Dee

I store it in plastic bottles with a 1 on the bottom.  No problemsDee

Sent from my iPad

> On 3 Mar 2015, at 16:19, ASL raVen  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi
> Last year I've tried a zapper but it didn't seem to do anything for me after 
> 3 weeks of using it. I guess it being cheaply priced, it was probably not a 
> real effective little machine as I hoped it'd be. Is Hulda Clark's zappers 
> stronger? 
> What are we supposed to feel with a zapper? Does it alkaline the blood? What 
> does a zapper do exactly? 
> 
> About Green Pastures - I'm allergic to Cod Fish --- would that mean I'd be 
> allergic to Cod fish's oil too? I'm tempted to try it. Truthfully when I ate 
> cod fish in the past, I didn't notice any serious reactions to it. But doctor 
> took a skin allergic test (poking needles and see how much my skin would puff 
> up kind) --- cod fish and halibut fish and apples were the only things that 
> swelled up.  But when I ate apple or the fish, I felt fine. What gives? 
> Should I trust these seemingly useless skin prick allergy test? 
> The other foods and environmental things that bothers me immensely did not 
> show up in that test. 
> 
> Last question - with the colloidal silver I made a few weeks ago --- should 
> it be stored in glass bottles only (and tinted?)  - there's one plastic 
> bottle that I bought through Amazon of another C.S. brand -- I saved it and 
> reused it to put my home made brew in it.  Then I worried about plastic 
> filtering into it. Should I store CS liquid in glass only? 
> 
> 
> RaVen

Re: CS>Beck Protocol

2015-03-03 Thread ASL raVen

Hi
Last year I've tried a zapper but it didn't seem to do anything for me
after 3 weeks of using it. I guess it being cheaply priced, it was probably
not a real effective little machine as I hoped it'd be. Is Hulda Clark's
zappers stronger?
What are we supposed to feel with a zapper? Does it alkaline the blood?
What does a zapper do exactly?

About Green Pastures - I'm allergic to Cod Fish --- would that mean I'd be
allergic to Cod fish's oil too? I'm tempted to try it. Truthfully when I
ate cod fish in the past, I didn't notice any serious reactions to it. But
doctor took a skin allergic test (poking needles and see how much my skin
would puff up kind) --- cod fish and halibut fish and apples were the only
things that swelled up.  But when I ate apple or the fish, I felt fine.
What gives? Should I trust these seemingly useless skin prick allergy test?
The other foods and environmental things that bothers me immensely did not
show up in that test.

Last question - with the colloidal silver I made a few weeks ago --- should
it be stored in glass bottles only (and tinted?)  - there's one plastic
bottle that I bought through Amazon of another C.S. brand -- I saved it and
reused it to put my home made brew in it.  Then I worried about plastic
filtering into it. Should I store CS liquid in glass only?


RaVen

Re: CS>Beck Protocol

2015-03-03 Thread Dee

Hi Victor, I was actually talking about the fermented cod liver oil from green 
pasture.com.  I myself have the Autozap and Zappicator which I believe is 
supposedly Hulda Clark.Dee

Sent from my iPad

> On 3 Mar 2015, at 13:31, Victor Cozzetto  wrote:
> 
> Hi Dee,
> 
> I have struggled myself with the idea of how to 'easily' get these devices. 
> Dr. Beck was amazing, as he traveled around and showed people how to build 
> these devices very cheaply, and he published all the schematics. However, 
> that is still not practical for most of us.
> 
> I have the devices from Sota Instruments in Canada, and I am not sure if they 
> ship to the UK. And it is expensive in any case, even without shipping. There 
> are various devices and plans published online, but I'm afraid that my 
> opinion is not worth much concerning those. Others on this list know far more 
> than I do. I have seen the 'Godzilla' zapper mentioned here and elsewhere 
> previously, and of course the Hulda Clark device was just mentioned. But 
> again, I am not sure if these are equivalent to the actual Beck devices.
> 
> In late 2013 I actually purchased another set of devices from Sota, as they 
> were the only devices that I was confident in. However, that speaks as much 
> to my ignorance as my trust. I simply have not made enough effort to get 
> comfortable with alternatives, and I am too lazy to build my own. The Sota 
> devices have served me well, with my eight year old set still getting regular 
> use, and a new set in NY being used by family members. As Nancy mentioned, 
> the previous blood electrification unit was quite uncomfortable for most 
> people; however, the newer unit is much better, though still cumbersome. I am 
> curious about alternatives, so I will be educating myself further.
> 
> I imagine that you can get a device for making ozonated water in the UK, and 
> perhaps someone here has a recommendation. The Sota devices are good 
> machines, and I recommend them, but I also appreciate that cost and logistics 
> can be a deal breaker.
> 
> I hope others have better answers for you.
> 
> Victor
> 
>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Dee  wrote:
>> Hi Victor do you know if this is available in the UK only I get the feeling 
>> the postage will be prohibitive.Dee
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On 3 Mar 2015, at 00:31, Victor Cozzetto  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi RaVen,
>>> 
>>> You are probably right, although I think I resolved all my nutritional 
>>> deficiencies for the moment.
>>> 
>>> The most potent superfood that I use is a combination of Fermented Cod 
>>> Liver Oil (FCLO) and high vitamin Butter Oil (BO). The only source I trust 
>>> for these items is Green Pasture, which brands their products as 'Blue Ice':
>>> 
>>> greenpasture.org
>>> 
>>> They also have a nice combo product called Infused Coconut Oil:
>>> http://www.greenpasture.org/public/Products/InfusedCoconutOil/
>>> 
>>> If you research, you will notice that trusted distributers around the world 
>>> are selling these Blue Ice products that are provided by Green Pasture. 
>>> Dave and Barb Wentzel are supper serious about maintaining the quality and 
>>> purity of their products. They are heroes in my book.
>>> 
>>> Those are the products that I use when I think I need a 'supplement' for my 
>>> diet - meaning that I take a small spoonful of the above products two or 
>>> three of times a day. But I only do that when I think my diet is lacking. I 
>>> also use their coconut ghee (ghee is basically BO).
>>> 
>>> A similar combination is natto and ghee. These are foods, not supplements, 
>>> so it can be easier to implement them into your diet (depending on your 
>>> tastes). There are many different good brands of those products, but you do 
>>> have to be careful, as there are many bad or fake ghee products these days. 
>>> Natto is a Japanese food that can be difficult to find (It is fermented 
>>> soybean).
>>> 
>>> A key point to the above is the nutritional synergy between the products, 
>>> so they must be taken together to have the maximum impact. For example, 
>>> cooking natto and eggs in ghee is one way. Taking a spoonful of the Infused 
>>> Coconut Oil product is another.
>>> 
>>> Another important point is not what we add, but what we remove: No white 
>>> sugar or white flour if possible. I use Einkorn and Spelt, which I soak and 
>>> sprout sometimes. Grains block our ability to absorb nutrition, so they 
>>> must be eliminated or processed properly - fermenting, soaking, souring, 
>>> sprouting, etc. This is one of the 'secrets' that Weston Price found among 
>>> all of the 'primitive' people that used grains.
>>> 
>>> OK, so this email is too long. Sorry about that. I will send another about 
>>> some 'fun' foods that I use to aid my nutrition.
>>> 
>>> Victor
>>> 
>>> 
 On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 1:48 AM, ASL raVen  wrote:
 
 Hi Victor, 
 I wonder if you have vitamin A deficiency? I learned that Vitamin A is 
 related to

Re: CS>Beck Protocol

2015-03-03 Thread Victor Cozzetto

Hi Dee,

I have struggled myself with the idea of how to 'easily' get these devices.
Dr. Beck was amazing, as he traveled around and showed people how to build
these devices very cheaply, and he published all the schematics. However,
that is still not practical for most of us.

I have the devices from Sota Instruments in Canada, and I am not sure if
they ship to the UK. And it is expensive in any case, even without
shipping. There are various devices and plans published online, but I'm
afraid that my opinion is not worth much concerning those. Others on this
list know far more than I do. I have seen the 'Godzilla' zapper mentioned
here and elsewhere previously, and of course the Hulda Clark device was
just mentioned. But again, I am not sure if these are equivalent to the
actual Beck devices.

In late 2013 I actually purchased another set of devices from Sota, as they
were the only devices that I was confident in. However, that speaks as much
to my ignorance as my trust. I simply have not made enough effort to get
comfortable with alternatives, and I am too lazy to build my own. The Sota
devices have served me well, with my eight year old set still getting
regular use, and a new set in NY being used by family members. As Nancy
mentioned, the previous blood electrification unit was quite uncomfortable
for most people; however, the newer unit is much better, though still
cumbersome. I am curious about alternatives, so I will be educating myself
further.

I imagine that you can get a device for making ozonated water in the UK,
and perhaps someone here has a recommendation. The Sota devices are good
machines, and I recommend them, but I also appreciate that cost and
logistics can be a deal breaker.

I hope others have better answers for you.

Victor

On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Dee  wrote:

> Hi Victor do you know if this is available in the UK only I get the
> feeling the postage will be prohibitive.Dee
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 3 Mar 2015, at 00:31, Victor Cozzetto 
> wrote:
>
> Hi RaVen,
>
> You are probably right, although I think I resolved all my nutritional
> deficiencies for the moment.
>
> The most potent superfood that I use is a combination of Fermented Cod
> Liver Oil (FCLO) and high vitamin Butter Oil (BO). The only source I trust
> for these items is Green Pasture, which brands their products as 'Blue Ice':
>
> greenpasture.org
>
> They also have a nice combo product called Infused Coconut Oil:
> http://www.greenpasture.org/public/Products/InfusedCoconutOil/
>
> If you research, you will notice that trusted distributers around the
> world are selling these Blue Ice products that are provided by Green
> Pasture. Dave and Barb Wentzel are supper serious about maintaining the
> quality and purity of their products. They are heroes in my book.
>
> Those are the products that I use when I think I need a 'supplement' for
> my diet - meaning that I take a small spoonful of the above products two or
> three of times a day. But I only do that when I think my diet is lacking. I
> also use their coconut ghee (ghee is basically BO).
>
> A similar combination is natto and ghee. These are foods, not supplements,
> so it can be easier to implement them into your diet (depending on your
> tastes). There are many different good brands of those products, but you do
> have to be careful, as there are many bad or fake ghee products these days.
> Natto is a Japanese food that can be difficult to find (It is fermented
> soybean).
>
> A key point to the above is the nutritional synergy between the products,
> so they must be taken together to have the maximum impact. For example,
> cooking natto and eggs in ghee is one way. Taking a spoonful of the Infused
> Coconut Oil product is another.
>
> Another important point is not what we add, but what we remove: No white
> sugar or white flour if possible. I use Einkorn and Spelt, which I soak and
> sprout sometimes. Grains block our ability to absorb nutrition, so they
> must be eliminated or processed properly - fermenting, soaking, souring,
> sprouting, etc. This is one of the 'secrets' that Weston Price found among
> all of the 'primitive' people that used grains.
>
> OK, so this email is too long. Sorry about that. I will send another about
> some 'fun' foods that I use to aid my nutrition.
>
> Victor
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 1:48 AM, ASL raVen  wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Victor,
>> I wonder if you have vitamin A deficiency? I learned that Vitamin A is
>> related to skin issues and teeth issues.
>>
>> I read that fibromyalgia could stem from an infected root canal and sure
>> enough I had a lot of issues with my elbow and shoulder which matched tooth
>> that I had root canal on - I'm going to have it removed someday and see how
>> my health improves after that. (also see how it improves the FMS?)
>>
>> What are the superfoods you mentioned about?
>>
>> RaVen
>>
>
>

Re: CS>Beck Protocol

2015-03-03 Thread Dee

Hi Victor do you know if this is available in the UK only I get the feeling the 
postage will be prohibitive.Dee

Sent from my iPad

> On 3 Mar 2015, at 00:31, Victor Cozzetto  wrote:
> 
> Hi RaVen,
> 
> You are probably right, although I think I resolved all my nutritional 
> deficiencies for the moment.
> 
> The most potent superfood that I use is a combination of Fermented Cod Liver 
> Oil (FCLO) and high vitamin Butter Oil (BO). The only source I trust for 
> these items is Green Pasture, which brands their products as 'Blue Ice':
> 
> greenpasture.org
> 
> They also have a nice combo product called Infused Coconut Oil:
> http://www.greenpasture.org/public/Products/InfusedCoconutOil/
> 
> If you research, you will notice that trusted distributers around the world 
> are selling these Blue Ice products that are provided by Green Pasture. Dave 
> and Barb Wentzel are supper serious about maintaining the quality and purity 
> of their products. They are heroes in my book.
> 
> Those are the products that I use when I think I need a 'supplement' for my 
> diet - meaning that I take a small spoonful of the above products two or 
> three of times a day. But I only do that when I think my diet is lacking. I 
> also use their coconut ghee (ghee is basically BO).
> 
> A similar combination is natto and ghee. These are foods, not supplements, so 
> it can be easier to implement them into your diet (depending on your tastes). 
> There are many different good brands of those products, but you do have to be 
> careful, as there are many bad or fake ghee products these days. Natto is a 
> Japanese food that can be difficult to find (It is fermented soybean).
> 
> A key point to the above is the nutritional synergy between the products, so 
> they must be taken together to have the maximum impact. For example, cooking 
> natto and eggs in ghee is one way. Taking a spoonful of the Infused Coconut 
> Oil product is another.
> 
> Another important point is not what we add, but what we remove: No white 
> sugar or white flour if possible. I use Einkorn and Spelt, which I soak and 
> sprout sometimes. Grains block our ability to absorb nutrition, so they must 
> be eliminated or processed properly - fermenting, soaking, souring, 
> sprouting, etc. This is one of the 'secrets' that Weston Price found among 
> all of the 'primitive' people that used grains.
> 
> OK, so this email is too long. Sorry about that. I will send another about 
> some 'fun' foods that I use to aid my nutrition.
> 
> Victor
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 1:48 AM, ASL raVen  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Victor, 
>> I wonder if you have vitamin A deficiency? I learned that Vitamin A is 
>> related to skin issues and teeth issues. 
>> 
>> I read that fibromyalgia could stem from an infected root canal and sure 
>> enough I had a lot of issues with my elbow and shoulder which matched tooth 
>> that I had root canal on - I'm going to have it removed someday and see how 
>> my health improves after that. (also see how it improves the FMS?) 
>> 
>> What are the superfoods you mentioned about? 
>> 
>> RaVen 
>

Re: CS>Beck Protocol

2015-03-02 Thread Victor Cozzetto

Hello again RaVen,

A couple of more comments about foods. I nice dietary guide here:

http://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-nutrition/dietary-guidelines/

And specific things we do in my house:

1. We make and drink kefir every day. In NY my family can get raw milk too,
but that is not an option for me in Japan.

2. We make our own bread several times a week, incorporating healthier
grains, like Einkorn, Spelt, etc. (The grains or flour should really be
soaked to improve nutrition, but we are not yet perfect about this)

3. We make chocolate every week - cocoa powder, coconut oil, and maple
syrup. Simple, healthy and delicious. It reduces our consumption of the
processed chocolate and gets more coconut oil into our diet.

4. We make healthy oatmeal cookies every week. The oats are mixed with
freshly ground spelt or einkorn, and soaked overnight in a coconut oil &
apple cider vinegar mixture. Adding some rye is helpful too, as soaking
with this mix of grains greatly improves our nutrition absorption. (Soaking
oats alone does not help much).

5. I eat oatmeal several times a week, again mixing it with spelt or
einkorn, and soaking it overnight in water and apple cider vinegar or lemon
juice. When I cook it, I add a generous amount of sea salt (Himalayan or
Celtic) to my water, as well has a spoonful each of ghee and coconut oil. I
add cinnamon and raisins (or chopped apple) to my oatmeal mix, dump it in
the water and cook it for five minutes.

6. I have recently been making mayonnaise, using a blend of coconut oil and
olive oil. Another small way to remove chemicals from our diet and
incorporate healthy oils.

7. On occasion I will make tortillas, using the soaked/sprouted healthy
grains and coconut oil. I would make these more often, but my family
prefers other healthy breads.

8. Bacon and eggs, cooked in coconut oil or ghee and salted with sea salt
is a healthy meal. Don't believe the cholesterol fears. Of course, get
'natural' bacon & eggs.

9. French toast can be another healthy meal. Again cooked in the healthy
oils, using sea salt, eggs, cinnamon, and of course homemade bread.

10. Raw veggies every day - carrots, celery, tomatoes, cucumbers, are
delicious when dipped in a healthy miso & mayo dip. Homemade mayo makes it
even better.

11. Soups, stews, curries, etc. are loaded with veggies, and soup stocks
from chicken carcass or other bones provide great nutrition. This is
something we are not great at, as meat options are limited in Japan.

We are always looking for delicious ways to improve our nutrition, but we
are far from perfect. I think every family is different, as what is
practical and delicious for one person may not be so for another.

Grains are tricky, as they are the main culprit in blocking our nutrition
absorption. However, they become a super food when processed correctly. In
addition, the apple cider vinegar and lemon juice that is used for soaking
is another healthy addition. One of the best blogs I know for guidance on
grains is here:

http://www.weedemandreap.com/guide-soaking-sprouting-grains/

That was probably too much information ;-)

Victor

On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 1:48 AM, ASL raVen  wrote:

>
> Hi Victor,
> I wonder if you have vitamin A deficiency? I learned that Vitamin A is
> related to skin issues and teeth issues.
>
> I read that fibromyalgia could stem from an infected root canal and sure
> enough I had a lot of issues with my elbow and shoulder which matched tooth
> that I had root canal on - I'm going to have it removed someday and see how
> my health improves after that. (also see how it improves the FMS?)
>
> What are the superfoods you mentioned about?
>
> RaVen
>

Re: CS>Beck Protocol

2015-03-02 Thread Victor Cozzetto

Hi Nancy,

I love how you are using your sleeping time for healing. I may have to look
into those magnets.

My family and I also have great experience with using the MP to aid
healing. I love martial arts, and sometimes I tweak a shoulder or knee, so
I feel that the pulsar is a life saver for me. I haven't had any chronic
joint issues, despite the fact that I am still active and over fifty.

MSM is something I started last year, after hearing about it repeatedly on
this list and elsewhere. It seems to be a valuable supplement, and helps
allergies for many people. Not sure if it will alleviate my allergies, but
it is looking good so far, as the allergy season started here in Japan and
I am ok so far. (I never had hay fever until about five years ago, and it
has been pretty bad each year since it started).

Thanks again for sharing.

Victor

On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 7:55 AM, Nancy Winiecki  wrote:

> Thanks, Victor, I also have the Magnetic Pulser (MP).  I use it on problem
> areas where there is any pain.  I fell on the concrete floor of the garage
> recently and my left knee was swollen above the knee and over the ligaments
> on both sides below the kneecap.  I had to limp and take stairs one at a
> time, bending only my good knee.   I had a bad knee 6 years ago and it took
> 9 months to heal, part of the healing was taking advice from someone on the
> silverlist to take 2 Tbsp. of MSM a day, and part was becoming a
> vegetarian.  But this time I used my MP on it several times a day, took the
> MSM, and also wore a Neodymium magnet, 1" diam. x 1/8" thick, putting it
> over the place with the most pain at the time, and sleeping with it as
> well.   I've had very good results for several years using them over my
> knee and also hip joints, kills all pain in just a few days.   Anyway, 3-4
> weeks later, I am mostly pain-free but still wear the magnet a lot, and
> have my range of motion back, no more swelling.
>
> We haven't been very good at using it pulsing lymph nodes, it seems we
> tend to forget.
>
> Nancy
>
>
>   On Monday, March 2, 2015 6:34 AM, Victor Cozzetto <
> victor.cozze...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Nancy.
>
> Your experience is very interesting to hear. I also had the same trouble
> with my device, which is quite old. My brother has a new model that is much
> better. But I never had experience with any other devices, so it was
> interesting to hear your account of the Hulda Clark zapper.
>
> I also do not know how the Hulda Clark device compares to the Beck design.
> But now I am curious to research it more. I would love to see what your
> blood looks like ;-) It sounds like the device is serving you very well.
>
> Victor
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 8:39 PM, Nancy Winiecki  wrote:
>
> I tried the Beck Zapper and found it to be difficult to use, frequently
> too dry or perhaps too little or too much salt so it reddened my skin some,
> or itched, or caused sore places, or tingled badly, so I bought a Hulda
> Clark type zapper off ebay
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Z4eX-EXTREME-3-Frequency-Hulda-Clark-Zapper-/161410476483?pt=
> 
> LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item2594d069c3
> 
>
> that doesn't require water, has very comfortable adjustable straps that
> fit on each wrist, and 3 frequencies.   I often sleep with it on as it
> helps my insomnia, and I can sleep on my back without turning and tossing.
> Since using it for a year or more every time my grandkids expose me to
> colds I may feel like I am fighting it some, but have not gotten any
> full-blown runny and stopped up nose, and I used to always get terrible
> sinus infections every time and be putting CS drops up my nose, heating
> pads, etc. but with the zapping I have not had ONE SINGLE sinus infection.
> I also suck zinc lozenges that don't have sugar.   I don't know how to
> compare the Clark and Beck zappers for fighting cancer, hopefully it also
> does the job of cleaning the blood in that respect as well.
>
> Nancy
>
>
>   On Sunday, March 1, 2015 7:26 AM, Victor Cozzetto <
> victor.cozze...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> Since it is quiet, I figured I would throw this topic out there. I have
> only seen a couple of people mention the Beck Protocol here, and so I would
> like to mention it again. I noticed that it was curiously absent from the
> recent discussion of Rife and other energy therapies.
>
> In my experience, and to my knowledge, this is the single most effective
> protocol that I know of. It is also the protocol that is responsible for
> the famed 'immortal' blood.
>
> CS is one of its four parts, and I have mentioned this protocol before, as
> I have seen and experienced its effects.
>
> I would be curious to know if anyone else on this list has any com

Re: CS>Beck Protocol

2015-03-02 Thread Victor Cozzetto

Hi RaVen,

You are probably right, although I think I resolved all my nutritional
deficiencies for the moment.

The most potent superfood that I use is a combination of Fermented Cod
Liver Oil (FCLO) and high vitamin Butter Oil (BO). The only source I trust
for these items is Green Pasture, which brands their products as 'Blue Ice':

greenpasture.org

They also have a nice combo product called Infused Coconut Oil:
http://www.greenpasture.org/public/Products/InfusedCoconutOil/

If you research, you will notice that trusted distributers around the world
are selling these Blue Ice products that are provided by Green Pasture.
Dave and Barb Wentzel are supper serious about maintaining the quality and
purity of their products. They are heroes in my book.

Those are the products that I use when I think I need a 'supplement' for my
diet - meaning that I take a small spoonful of the above products two or
three of times a day. But I only do that when I think my diet is lacking. I
also use their coconut ghee (ghee is basically BO).

A similar combination is natto and ghee. These are foods, not supplements,
so it can be easier to implement them into your diet (depending on your
tastes). There are many different good brands of those products, but you do
have to be careful, as there are many bad or fake ghee products these days.
Natto is a Japanese food that can be difficult to find (It is fermented
soybean).

A key point to the above is the nutritional synergy between the products,
so they must be taken together to have the maximum impact. For example,
cooking natto and eggs in ghee is one way. Taking a spoonful of the Infused
Coconut Oil product is another.

Another important point is not what we add, but what we remove: No white
sugar or white flour if possible. I use Einkorn and Spelt, which I soak and
sprout sometimes. Grains block our ability to absorb nutrition, so they
must be eliminated or processed properly - fermenting, soaking, souring,
sprouting, etc. This is one of the 'secrets' that Weston Price found among
all of the 'primitive' people that used grains.

OK, so this email is too long. Sorry about that. I will send another about
some 'fun' foods that I use to aid my nutrition.

Victor

On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 1:48 AM, ASL raVen  wrote:

>
> Hi Victor,
> I wonder if you have vitamin A deficiency? I learned that Vitamin A is
> related to skin issues and teeth issues.
>
> I read that fibromyalgia could stem from an infected root canal and sure
> enough I had a lot of issues with my elbow and shoulder which matched tooth
> that I had root canal on - I'm going to have it removed someday and see how
> my health improves after that. (also see how it improves the FMS?)
>
> What are the superfoods you mentioned about?
>
> RaVen
>

Thanks, Victor, I also have the Magnetic Pulser (MP). I use it on problem
areas where there is any pain. I fell on the concrete floor of the garage
recently and my left knee was swollen above the knee and over the ligaments on
both sides below the kneecap. I had to limp and take stairs one at a time,
bending only my good knee. I had a bad knee 6 years ago and it took 9 months
to heal, part of the healing was taking advice from someone on the silverlist
to take 2 Tbsp. of MSM a day, and part was becoming a vegetarian. But this
time I used my MP on it several times a day, took the MSM, and also wore a
Neodymium magnet, 1" diam. x 1/8" thick, putting it over the place with the
most pain at the time, and sleeping with it as well. I've had very good
results for several years using them over my knee and also hip joints, kills
all pain in just a few days. Anyway, 3-4 weeks later, I am mostly pain-free
but still wear the magnet a lot, and have my range of motion back, no more
swelling.
We haven't been very good at using it pulsing lymph nodes, it seems we tend to
forget.
Nancy

On Monday, March 2, 2015 6:34 AM, Victor Cozzetto
wrote:

Thanks Nancy.
Your experience is very interesting to hear. I also had the same trouble with
my device, which is quite old. My brother has a new model that is much better.
But I never had experience with any other devices, so it was interesting to
hear your account of the Hulda Clark zapper.
I also do not know how the Hulda Clark device compares to the Beck design. But
now I am curious to research it more. I would love to see what your blood looks
like ;-) It sounds like the device is serving you very well.
Victor

On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 8:39 PM, Nancy Winiecki wrote:

I tried the Beck Zapper and found it to be difficult to use, frequently too dry
or perhaps too little or too much salt so it reddened my skin some, or itched,
or caused sore places, or tingled badly, so I bought a Hulda Clark type zapper
off
ebayhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/Z4eX-EXTREME-3-Frequency-Hulda-Clark-Zapper-/161410476483?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item2594d069c3
that doesn't require water, has very comfortable adjustable straps that fit on
each wrist, and 3 frequencies. I often sleep with it on as it helps my
insomnia, and I can sleep on my back without turning and tossing. Since using
it for a year or more every time my grandkids expose me to colds I may feel
like I am fighting it some, but have not gotten any full-blown runny and
stopped up nose, and I used to always get terrible sinus infections every time
and be putting CS drops up my nose, heating pads, etc. but with the zapping I
have not had ONE SINGLE sinus infection. I also suck zinc lozenges that don't
have sugar. I don't know how to compare the Clark and Beck zappers for
fighting cancer, hopefully it also does the job of cleaning the blood in that
respect as well.
Nancy

On Sunday, March 1, 2015 7:26 AM, Victor Cozzetto
wrote:

Hello Everyone,
Since it is quiet, I figured I would throw this topic out there. I have only
seen a couple of people mention the Beck Protocol here, and so I would like to
mention it again. I noticed that it was curiously absent from the recent
discussion of Rife and other energy therapies.
In my experience, and to my knowledge, this is the single most effective
protocol that I know of. It is also the protocol that is responsible for the
famed 'immortal' blood.
CS is one of its four parts, and I have mentioned this protocol before, as I
have seen and experienced its effects.
I would be curious to know if anyone else on this list has any comments,
experience, or curiosity. As far as I know, there is nothing that cannot be
cured by the Beck Protocol, when it is administered properly. And in recent
years video testimonials have been posted here:
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBobBeckProtocol/

I know we have lyme disease sufferers on this list, and you will find tons of
information on the web recommending this protocol as a treatment.
Victor

Re: CS>Beck Protocol

2015-03-02 Thread ASL raVen

Hi Victor,
I wonder if you have vitamin A deficiency? I learned that Vitamin A is
related to skin issues and teeth issues.

I read that fibromyalgia could stem from an infected root canal and sure
enough I had a lot of issues with my elbow and shoulder which matched tooth
that I had root canal on - I'm going to have it removed someday and see how
my health improves after that. (also see how it improves the FMS?)

What are the superfoods you mentioned about?

RaVen

Re: CS>Beck Protocol

2015-03-02 Thread Victor Cozzetto

Thanks Nancy.

Your experience is very interesting to hear. I also had the same trouble
with my device, which is quite old. My brother has a new model that is much
better. But I never had experience with any other devices, so it was
interesting to hear your account of the Hulda Clark zapper.

I also do not know how the Hulda Clark device compares to the Beck design.
But now I am curious to research it more. I would love to see what your
blood looks like ;-) It sounds like the device is serving you very well.

Victor



On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 8:39 PM, Nancy Winiecki  wrote:

> I tried the Beck Zapper and found it to be difficult to use, frequently
> too dry or perhaps too little or too much salt so it reddened my skin some,
> or itched, or caused sore places, or tingled badly, so I bought a Hulda
> Clark type zapper off ebay
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Z4eX-EXTREME-3-Frequency-Hulda-Clark-Zapper-/161410476483?pt=
> 
> LH_DefaultDomain_0&var=&hash=item2594d069c3
> 
>
> that doesn't require water, has very comfortable adjustable straps that
> fit on each wrist, and 3 frequencies.   I often sleep with it on as it
> helps my insomnia, and I can sleep on my back without turning and tossing.
> Since using it for a year or more every time my grandkids expose me to
> colds I may feel like I am fighting it some, but have not gotten any
> full-blown runny and stopped up nose, and I used to always get terrible
> sinus infections every time and be putting CS drops up my nose, heating
> pads, etc. but with the zapping I have not had ONE SINGLE sinus infection.
> I also suck zinc lozenges that don't have sugar.   I don't know how to
> compare the Clark and Beck zappers for fighting cancer, hopefully it also
> does the job of cleaning the blood in that respect as well.
>
> Nancy
>
>
>   On Sunday, March 1, 2015 7:26 AM, Victor Cozzetto <
> victor.cozze...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> Since it is quiet, I figured I would throw this topic out there. I have
> only seen a couple of people mention the Beck Protocol here, and so I would
> like to mention it again. I noticed that it was curiously absent from the
> recent discussion of Rife and other energy therapies.
>
> In my experience, and to my knowledge, this is the single most effective
> protocol that I know of. It is also the protocol that is responsible for
> the famed 'immortal' blood.
>
> CS is one of its four parts, and I have mentioned this protocol before, as
> I have seen and experienced its effects.
>
> I would be curious to know if anyone else on this list has any comments,
> experience, or curiosity. As far as I know, there is nothing that cannot be
> cured by the Beck Protocol, when it is administered properly. And in recent
> years video testimonials have been posted here:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBobBeckProtocol/
>
> I know we have lyme disease sufferers on this list, and you will find tons
> of information on the web recommending this protocol as a treatment.
>
> Victor
>

Re: CS>Beck Protocol

2015-03-02 Thread Nancy Winiecki

On Sunday, March 1, 2015 7:26 AM, Victor Cozzetto
wrote:

I know we have lyme disease sufferers on this list, and you will find tons of
information on the web recommending this protocol as a treatment.
Victor

Re: CS>Beck Protocol

2015-03-02 Thread Victor Cozzetto

Hi Gail,

Sorry about your CFS. I agree with you completely about needing a
combination of things. I believe that no matter how effective CS or any
protocol might be, it is easy to render them ineffective with overwhelming
toxic intake or nutritional deficiencies - and sadly, most of us are
probably a victim of both to some extent.

And sometimes we are shooting at the wrong target... for example, I had a
growth on my leg that I could not get rid of. About the size of a pencil
eraser, I thought it was a wart at first. But trying wart removers did
nothing but give me pain. Then I tried CS, and nothing happened. I finally
tried the Beck Protocol, pulsing the spot directly. Still nothing. Finally,
many years later, I had some trouble with my teeth. So I focused the pulser
on my mouth during another round of the Beck Protocol, and to my surprise,
the growth on my leg vanished. My conclusion: some problem in my mouth was
feeding that growth/tumor in my leg. Research revealed that this is a
common theory for cancer as well.

About my teeth, CS and the Beck Protocol can stop the pain, but they cannot
heal my teeth. Only proper nutrition can do that, and that is exactly what
I experienced. Only when I discovered the guidance from Weston A. Price,
was I able to heal my teeth. And that remains a recurring battle, as I am
too lazy to maintain a perfect diet ;-) Although supplementing with some
key superfoods works like magic.

Hope you do eventually find a way to overcome that CFS.

Victor

On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 1:24 AM, Gail Naranjo  wrote:

> Victor,
>
> The Beck protocol has it's place, but it is not a cure all as is so often
> claimed.   I have CFS and used the Beck protocol correctly and continually,
> but it was not  a cure.
>
> I've noticed the lists that use to be so active have just about died out.
> It was a good run while it lasted, but, like I said, it's limited.  I think
> it's great for some issues, just not all.
>
> btw, I also feel the same about CS.  More often than not, it takes a
> combination of things to regain health, diet and supplements being at the
> forefront, imo.
>
> Gail
>
>
>   On Sunday, March 1, 2015 8:26 AM, Victor Cozzetto <
> victor.cozze...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> Since it is quiet, I figured I would throw this topic out there. I have
> only seen a couple of people mention the Beck Protocol here, and so I would
> like to mention it again. I noticed that it was curiously absent from the
> recent discussion of Rife and other energy therapies.
>
> In my experience, and to my knowledge, this is the single most effective
> protocol that I know of. It is also the protocol that is responsible for
> the famed 'immortal' blood.
>
> CS is one of its four parts, and I have mentioned this protocol before, as
> I have seen and experienced its effects.
>
> I would be curious to know if anyone else on this list has any comments,
> experience, or curiosity. As far as I know, there is nothing that cannot be
> cured by the Beck Protocol, when it is administered properly. And in recent
> years video testimonials have been posted here:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBobBeckProtocol/
>
> I know we have lyme disease sufferers on this list, and you will find tons
> of information on the web recommending this protocol as a treatment.
>
> Victor
>

Re: CS>Beck Protocol

2015-03-01 Thread Gail Naranjo

Victor,
The Beck protocol has it's place, but it is not a cure all as is so often 
claimed.   I have CFS and used the Beck protocol correctly and continually, but 
it was not  a cure.  
I've noticed the lists that use to be so active have just about died out.  It 
was a good run while it lasted, but, like I said, it's limited.  I think it's 
great for some issues, just not all.  
btw, I also feel the same about CS.  More often than not, it takes a 
combination of things to regain health, diet and supplements being at the 
forefront, imo.
Gail 

 On Sunday, March 1, 2015 8:26 AM, Victor Cozzetto 
 wrote:
   

 Hello Everyone,
Since it is quiet, I figured I would throw this topic out there. I have only 
seen a couple of people mention the Beck Protocol here, and so I would like to 
mention it again. I noticed that it was curiously absent from the recent 
discussion of Rife and other energy therapies.
In my experience, and to my knowledge, this is the single most effective 
protocol that I know of. It is also the protocol that is responsible for the 
famed 'immortal' blood.
CS is one of its four parts, and I have mentioned this protocol before, as I 
have seen and experienced its effects.
I would be curious to know if anyone else on this list has any comments, 
experience, or curiosity. As far as I know, there is nothing that cannot be 
cured by the Beck Protocol, when it is administered properly. And in recent 
years video testimonials have been posted here:
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheBobBeckProtocol/

I know we have lyme disease sufferers on this list, and you will find tons of 
information on the web recommending this protocol as a treatment.
Victor

Re: CS>beck protocol success anyone?

2009-05-20 Thread gmetropulo


 what's the yahoo site? which rife machine does your friend use? I need to find 
real people with real success. georgia


 


 

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Lyme and mycoplasma are very tough to get rid of. There is a lyme group on 
yahoo 
which has good support and reports of what herbs/electronics etc has helped 
them 
most. Many of them are using  Rife machines with a plasma tube made by Dan 
Tracy. These machines are much more powerful than the beck style 
zappers/magpulsers etc. 2 minutes of Rife treatment can cause a herx., very 
powerful.  Colloidal silver is always a good supplement to be on with Lyme and 
mycoplasma. This is what I have heard from a friend with Lyme using the above.

Sincerely
Steve 
 gmetrop...@aol.com wrote: 

=


anyone ever heard of anyone having success with the beck protocol? I am 
wondering if it would work for chronic lyme and mycoplasma that has 
infected the connective tissues of the scalp causing chronic severe 
headaches,adhesions, muscle spasm from head down back and circulatory 
issues. Could this protocol address this problem. I have struggled for 
8 years with these symptoms 24 hours and trying to raise my 6 children. 


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Re: CS>beck protocol success anyone?

2009-04-01 Thread Jonathan B. Britten

Persons wanting to follow the protocol can find the needed tools from 
Sota Instruments in Canada.   The company has been in business for a 
long time, is reliable, and regularly improves products, offering an 
upgrade price to previous purchasers.


Note that Sota can say virtually nothing about the uses of the 
products, and cannot even link to sites that provide information about 
the protocol.   I think this amounts to suppression of information, but 
it's a complex legal issue, I suppose, one that LEF.org in the USA has 
been fighting for many years.



On Thursday, Apr 2, 2009, at 05:30 Asia/Tokyo, Marshall Dudley wrote:


My sister beat lyme using it after the doctors' protocols failed.

Marshall

gmetrop...@aol.com wrote:



anyone ever heard of anyone having success with the beck protocol? I 
am wondering if it would work for chronic lyme and mycoplasma that 
has infected the connective tissues of the scalp causing chronic 
severe headaches,adhesions, muscle spasm from head down back and 
circulatory issues. Could this protocol address this problem. I have 
struggled for 8 years with these symptoms 24 hours and trying to 
raise my 6 children.


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Re: CS>beck protocol success anyone?

2009-04-01 Thread scl555

Lyme and mycoplasma are very tough to get rid of. There is a lyme group on 
yahoo which has good support and reports of what herbs/electronics etc has 
helped them most. Many of them are using  Rife machines with a plasma tube made 
by Dan Tracy. These machines are much more powerful than the beck style 
zappers/magpulsers etc. 2 minutes of Rife treatment can cause a herx., very 
powerful.  Colloidal silver is always a good supplement to be on with Lyme and 
mycoplasma. This is what I have heard from a friend with Lyme using the above.

Sincerely
Steve 
 gmetrop...@aol.com wrote: 

=


anyone ever heard of anyone having success with the beck protocol? I am 
wondering if it would work for chronic lyme and mycoplasma that has 
infected the connective tissues of the scalp causing chronic severe 
headaches,adhesions, muscle spasm from head down back and circulatory 
issues. Could this protocol address this problem. I have struggled for 
8 years with these symptoms 24 hours and trying to raise my 6 children. 


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Re: CS>beck protocol success anyone?

2009-04-01 Thread Marshall Dudley


My sister beat lyme using it after the doctors' protocols failed.

Marshall

gmetrop...@aol.com wrote:



anyone ever heard of anyone having success with the beck protocol? I 
am wondering if it would work for chronic lyme and mycoplasma that has 
infected the connective tissues of the scalp causing chronic severe 
headaches,adhesions, muscle spasm from head down back and circulatory 
issues. Could this protocol address this problem. I have struggled for 
8 years with these symptoms 24 hours and trying to raise my 6 children.


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RE: CS>Beck protocol?

2005-09-05 Thread elle roberts


Mike,
have you received my package?
If so .. wot do you think.
I tried your other address no luck.
Sorry.

elle



From: "M. G. Devour" 
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To: 
Subject: RE: CS>Beck protocol?
Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 18:36:47 -5

Thanks Richard. I need to do that. But I also wanted an online source I
could refer somebody to.

Be well,

Mike D.

> Hi Mike,
> V offers a FREE BECK Papers CD that is worth it's weight in gold! Drop V
> a note and I'll bet your questions are easily, clearly answered.

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RE: CS>Beck protocol?

2005-09-05 Thread M. G. Devour

Thanks Richard. I need to do that. But I also wanted an online source I 
could refer somebody to.

Be well,

Mike D.

> Hi Mike,
> V offers a FREE BECK Papers CD that is worth it's weight in gold! Drop V
> a note and I'll bet your questions are easily, clearly answered. 

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RE: CS>Beck protocol?

2005-09-05 Thread Richard Harris

Hi Mike,
V offers a FREE BECK Papers CD that is worth it's weight in gold! Drop V a
note and I'll bet your questions are easily, clearly answered. Thank you for
making this EXCELLENT Site available for "us seekers" and for attracting so
many generous, knowledgeable Experts who Share.

Sincerely,
Richard Harris, 58 yr FLPharmacist

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Excellent, Ian. I'll look it over more closely soon. It looks like just
the kind of site I want.

Be well,

Mike D.

> Hello:
>
> www.sharinghealth.com is a comprehensive site on the beck protocol.
>
> Ian
> - Original Message -
> From: "M. G. Devour" 
> >
> > Is there any single web site that discusses the 4 step Beck protocol
> > in reasonable depth, that would be a worthwhile referral for somebody
> > wanting to get familiar with it? A book for sale? Anything?

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Re: CS>Beck protocol?

2005-09-05 Thread M. G. Devour

Excellent, Ian. I'll look it over more closely soon. It looks like just 
the kind of site I want.

Be well,

Mike D.

> Hello:
> 
> www.sharinghealth.com is a comprehensive site on the beck protocol.
> 
> Ian
> - Original Message - 
> From: "M. G. Devour" 
> > 
> > Is there any single web site that discusses the 4 step Beck protocol
> > in reasonable depth, that would be a worthwhile referral for somebody
> > wanting to get familiar with it? A book for sale? Anything?

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Re: CS>Beck protocol?

2005-09-05 Thread Ian Roe

Hello:

www.sharinghealth.com is a comprehensive site on the beck protocol.

Ian
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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 8:38 PM
Subject: CS>Beck protocol?

Hi folks,

Is there any single web site that discusses the 4 step Beck protocol in 
reasonable depth, that would be a worthwhile referral for somebody 
wanting to get familiar with it? A book for sale? Anything?

Thanks,

Mike D.
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RE: CS>Beck Protocol

2005-08-19 Thread ruth strackbein

Hi! How do I get information about this V and her CS making machine? Thanks for all your informative messages.  Ruth
From Ruth Strackbein


From: Deborah Gerard Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.comTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSubject: CS>Beck ProtocolDate: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 16:00:30 -0700 (PDT)
I might add the "V" who is in this group sells the cs maker...includes a cd with all kinds of info on Beck.
I didn't realize you could cook with cs does anything damage cs besides sunlight and air?
Thanks everyone for the excellent flow of information to the hungry minds:)...deb


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Re: CS>Beck Protocol

2005-08-19 Thread Ode Coyote

  I have never noticed that sunlight or air damages CS. [made with silver and water only]

I have several samples that have been sitting on a sunny windowsill for years and they all appear to be still as good as the day after they were made.
Hydrogen sulphide and other pollutants in the air could have an  effect.
I 'nuked' a batch to see what would happen. So far as I could tell, it just boiled.
I used to mix CS with wet cat food to alleviate hair loss and skin insults from flea allergy...mixed and fed immediately...and that worked pretty good. [Cat died at 17 yrs old..no more bald spots or weeping bumps]

Search up the 3 ex marines and the rotten hamburger story in the archives.
Cooking with CS at least does a job on food, if not the eater  directly.

Ode

At 04:00 PM 8/18/2005 -0700, you wrote: 

I might add the "V" who is in this group sells the cs maker...includes a cd with all kinds of info on Beck.
I didn't realize you could cook with cs does anything damage cs besides sunlight and air?
Thanks everyone for the excellent flow of information to the hungry minds:)...deb


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RE: CS>Beck protocol?

2005-08-18 Thread Richard Harris

Hi Mike,
V gives a FREE BECK CD with each order and it's worth it's weight in gold in
my opinion. Has much valuable BECK info on it.
Sincely,
___
Richard Harris, 58 Year FL Pharmacist
448 West Juniata Street
Clermont, FL 34711
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Subject: CS>Beck protocol?

Hi folks,

Is there any single web site that discusses the 4 step Beck protocol in
reasonable depth, that would be a worthwhile referral for somebody
wanting to get familiar with it? A book for sale? Anything?

Thanks,

Mike D.
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Re: CS>Beck protocol?

2005-08-17 Thread scl...@netzero.net

Curezone.com has a Dr Bob Beck forum as well:
 
http://www.curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=47&t=82310
 
Steve

Re: CS>Beck protocol?

2005-08-17 Thread Acmeair


http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Beck-n-stuff/

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Beck-blood-electrification/?yguid=43252346

there might be more, but these have longevity  jim

M. G. Devour wrote:


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Is there any single web site that discusses the 4 step Beck protocol in 
reasonable depth, that would be a worthwhile referral for somebody 
wanting to get familiar with it? A book for sale? Anything?


Thanks,

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Re: CS>Beck protocol?

2005-08-17 Thread Jonathan B. Britten

Good question!   I have been thinking about the Beck Protocol for 
several days and was just discussing it last night with a friend who 
suffers from chronic fatigue.   I have several very particular 
questions that derive from the excellent Nexus article on nanobacteria.


A quick summary:

-- These are recently discovered. 

-- They may "self-replicate" rather than reproduce.  They don't show up 
in PCR tests. 

-- They are linked to many diseases, esp. cardiovascular.  They may 
cause "calcification" in the body. 

-- They are evidently  be destroyed by a combination of EDTA and 
tetracycline.  EDTA strips off the calcium shell and the antibiotic 
kills them or disables them. 


My questions:

-- Would EIS work against these unaided?  If not, what would be a good 
EDTA/EIS protocol? 

-- Would any of the Beck protocols strip off the calcium shell?   I am 
thinking of blood electrification and ozonated water.  The latter might 
well do the job through the process of free-radical destruction.  

Sorry to have nothing but questions;  I am hoping some MDs or 
clinicians somewhere may have some answers.


JBB









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Hi folks,

Is there any single web site that discusses the 4 step Beck protocol in
reasonable depth, that would be a worthwhile referral for somebody
wanting to get familiar with it? A book for sale? Anything?

Thanks,

Mike D.
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Re: CS>Beck Protocol pdf.

2003-10-31 Thread Jonathan B. Britten

My pleasure!   Please pass the word;  this is the best page for Beck  
Protocol information I have seen.


BTW one pdf article on this list is by a college prof. who taught me  
astronomy way back in 1977,  when he was also doing work on electrical  
field effects on mice.   He is still doing this kind of work,  recently  
acting as a member in a group studying whether electroporation can make  
medicines more effective.  (Electroporation,  basically the increased  
permeability of cells,  is said to be somewhat of a risk in the Beck  
protocol,  but evidently some people,  including Francis X. Hart,  of  
the University of the South,  think that it may be a good  thing in  
some cases.   I mention all this only because it reinforces my opinion  
that electromedicine is definitely going to go very mainstream in the  
decades ahead;  many solid scientists have been studying for decades.




JBB




On Friday, Oct 31, 2003, at 13:53 Asia/Tokyo, silversurfer1952 . wrote:


Hi Jonathan :-)

Thanks so much for responding to my query.  If you hadn`t, I would  
have just thought there was something wrong with the website because I  
don`t recall ever having trouble with pdf files.   Moments ago I  
upgraded my Acrobat Reader and now I can read all the files!  Fab!


regards,
Elle

From: Jonathan B. Britten
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:51:21

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All of the the pdf files I tried downloaded quite rapidly.   The whole
Hulda Clarke book downloaded in a very short time.   No problems for
me. . . .

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Re: CS>Beck Protocol pdf

2003-10-30 Thread Jonathan B. Britten

All of the the pdf files I tried downloaded quite rapidly.   The whole 
Hulda Clarke book downloaded in a very short time.   No problems for 
me. . . .








On Thursday, Oct 30, 2003, at 22:53 Asia/Tokyo, silversurfer1952 . 
wrote:


Is this a poorly maintained site, or is there something wrong with my 
computer?  Most of the file links are dead.


Elle



http://www.holman.net/rifetechnology/refandres/papers_articles.html

Two Beck pdf files on this site. . . .


JBB


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Re: CS>Beck Protocol pdf

2003-10-30 Thread silversurfer1952 .

Is this a poorly maintained site, or is there something wrong with my 
computer?  Most of the file links are dead.


Elle



http://www.holman.net/rifetechnology/refandres/papers_articles.html

Two Beck pdf files on this site. . . .


JBB


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Re: CS>Beck protocol for cancer

2000-09-07 Thread spiroflx

September 7, 2000

Brad,

I think you can still obtain copies of published articles by the physicist
Bob Beck PhD and other researchers dealing with the experimental use of CS,
electrical currents, magnetic impulses, ozonized water and the electrical
activity of leukocytes in the human body.

I recently sent 12 dollars to Action Electronics, 1300 E Edinger Ave, Santa
Ana CA 92705-4425 [action-electronics.com].  I told them I was interested in
any reprints of published reports/articles/abstracts written by researchers
pertaining to experiments in the general field of electromedical research
and the functioning of the human immune system --- anything that they could
find.

I understand that Action Electronics passed my request and my money on to
someone else.  After about ten days or more I received around 40-45 pages of
reprints of articles and research reports in a large envelope that had no
return address.

With the permission of copyright holders it is still legal to pass around
reprints of published articles --- a right protected by the First Amendment
to the USA Constitution --- if it is kept "properly separated" from the sale
of devices so as not to be construed in the eyes of the FDA and the FTC as
the labeling of devices for sale for a use not duly approved by the FDA.
"Fair use" privileges of copyrighted material also may apply here.

Action Electronics personnel will not discuss with you any possible
experimental medical uses of the devices that they sell.  They WILL discuss
with you the design of their devices.  Some of the experimental devices that
they sell are clearly labelled "not approved for use on humans" and some
experimental devices offered by Action Electronics are said to be
design-approved by Bob Beck.

Spiroflex
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- Original Message -
From: "Bradley Kirby" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 2:15 AM
Subject: CS>Beck protocol for cancer


> I need to construct a protocol for liver cancer using the four Beck
> machines. Any suggestions welcome. Also if any one has a copy of the 50
page
> Beck pamphlet that printed pre FDA action.
> Thank You bradki...@email.com
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Re: CS>Beck protocol for cancer

2000-09-06 Thread mfinney

Dear Brad,

What FDA Action?  I have a book of Becks and his video.

Barb
Michael Lee Finney
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