Re: CS>CG-2

2004-12-23 Thread Marshall Dudley
Yogiboy wrote:

> Thanks Richard,
>
> But I was more curious then anything else. I have a pretty good
> understanding of why people "don't want to heal," Or more correctly
> "afraid." I wanted to read someone else's opinion on that.
>
> Regards.
>
> E.

There can be a variety of reasons.  Everyone plays dramas, and some of the
dramas require one to get sympathy from others to work.  That is one
possibility.  Another one can be that a person is just not having fun any
more and at some level want it to be over. Also from past life regressions
there is evidence of payback being done where one person has to take care of
another as a form or karmic justice.  These are just a few of the
possibilities.

Marshall



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Re: CS>CG-2

2004-12-23 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
This book may be great,  but is definitely is NOT hard to find,  so  
there clearly wasn't much of an effort to get them off the shelves.


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/094500110X/ 
qid=1103790760/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-5418165-6809631?v=glance&s=books



JBB




On Thursday, Dec 23, 2004, at 04:38 Asia/Tokyo, cliff hume wrote:

If you want to read something informative, the best thing to do would  
be to find a copy of the book that Bill Clinton's former professor,  
Carroll Quigley wrote by the name of Tragedy & Hope. They were pulled  
from all of the libraries in Canada and the United States, but some  
rat-fink had them reprinted, making them a real hot item - in the land  
of the free and the home of the brave.



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Re: CS>CG-2

2004-12-22 Thread sandy George
Read Carolyn Myss' book called "Why People Do not Heal"
she is a main stream doctor who practices alternative as well
it is a fascinating book
Sandee


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RE: CS>CG-2

2004-12-22 Thread Sally Khanna
Oh, happy Birthday, Richard!
 
Sally

elle roberts  wrote:

Happy birthday Richard, and may all your dreams come true!

elle




>From: "Richard Harris"  
>Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
>To:  
>CC: "Richard Harris"  
>Subject: RE: CS>CG-2 
>Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:53:04 -0500 
> 
>Hi Mike & Elle, 
> 
>Thanks for this wonderful Site that shares so much helpful advice and 
>experience from Experts who truly Care and Generously Share with "us 
>seekers". 
> 
>Elle, We must remember that CS is easy and harmless in dc manufacturing 
>techniques; however, we read that CG must be manufactured with Hi voltage ac 
>and can be very dangerous--to the point of being perhaps fatal. I, as a 
>Pacemaker wearer have decided that should I need CG, I shall get someone 
>more knowledgable and safety prepared to make CG for me. At age 82 today, I 
>have survived 4 years in the Pacific as a Marine Rifle Platoon Leader in 
>WWII, with 2 Purple Hearts and a Bronze Star; 57 years as a FL Pharmacist 
>often working on my feet 12 hour days; 58 years of marriage to my same 
>beautiful bride; parenting 5 children thru SS & Church, little league, 
>scouting and many other problems; the last thing I need is to try to make my 
>own CG and electrocute myself in the process. 
> 
>I make and sell CS and am delighted in the many wonderful ways that God has 
>blessed those who used it and received healing of their problems. At first, 
>I Gave the 1st qt CS FREE to those who professed interest--meeting them a 
>couple weeks later, I'd ask how they were doing. Most replied, "Oh I haven't 
>taken or used CS yet, I'm waiting to ask my doctor." Then I began selling 
>the first qt for $10 and once they had their $$ invested, they'd take and 
>use CS and report the success. Dr. Bob BECK was so right when he stated that 
>85% of the people didn't really WANT to heal their problems. 
> 
>Merry Christmas and a Happy, Healthy, Prosperous NEW YEAR to ALL! 
> 
>Sincerely, 
>_ 
>Richard Harris, 57 Year FL Pharmacist 
>448 West Juniata Street 
>Clermont, FL 34711 
>www.rharrisinc.com 
>www.myseahealth.com/reh 
>http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com 
> 
>  -Original Message- 
>From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] 
>Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 6:00 AM 
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
>Subject: RE: CS>CG-2 
> 
> 
>Elle writes: 
> > ... you should come up with some grand photos and easy steps to follow 
> > to make colloidal gold. apologies Mike ... we love gold as much as 
> > silver. 
> 
>It's been a fact of life from the beginning that CG comes up on this 
>list, regularly. No harm, no foul, a bit more lattitude allowed than on 
>most OT threads. 
> 
>Peace, 
> 
>Mike D. 
>list owner 
> 
> 
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RE: CS>CG-2

2004-12-22 Thread elle roberts

Happy birthday Richard, and may all your dreams come true!
elle
>From: "Richard Harris" 
>Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>To: 
>CC: "Richard Harris" 
>Subject: RE: CS>CG-2
>Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:53:04 -0500
>
>Hi Mike & Elle,
>
>Thanks for this wonderful Site that shares so much helpful advice and
>experience from Experts who truly Care and Generously Share with "us
>seekers".
>
>Elle, We must remember that CS is easy and harmless in dc manufacturing
>techniques; however, we read that CG must be manufactured with Hi voltage ac
>and can be very dangerous--to the point of being perhaps fatal. I, as a
>Pacemaker wearer have decided that should I need CG, I shall get someone
>more knowledgable and safety prepared to make CG for me. At age 82 today, I
>have survived 4 years in the Pacific as a Marine Rifle Platoon Leader in
>WWII, with 2 Purple Hearts and a Bronze Star; 57 years as a FL Pharmacist
>often working on my feet 12 hour days; 58 years of marriage to my same
>beautiful bride; parenting 5 children thru SS & Church, little league,
>scouting and many other problems; the last thing I need is to try to make my
>own CG and electrocute myself in the process.
>
>I make and sell CS and am delighted in the many wonderful ways that God has
>blessed those who used it and received healing of their problems. At first,
>I Gave the 1st qt CS FREE to those who professed interest--meeting them a
>couple weeks later, I'd ask how they were doing. Most replied, "Oh I haven't
>taken or used CS yet, I'm waiting to ask my doctor." Then I began selling
>the first qt for $10 and once they had their $$ invested, they'd take and
>use CS and report the success. Dr. Bob BECK was so right when he stated that
>85% of the people didn't really WANT to heal their problems.
>
>Merry Christmas and a Happy, Healthy, Prosperous NEW YEAR to ALL!
>
>Sincerely,
>_
>Richard Harris, 57 Year FL Pharmacist
>448 West Juniata Street
>Clermont, FL 34711
>www.rharrisinc.com
>www.myseahealth.com/reh
>http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com
>
>  -Original Message-
>From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 6:00 AM
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Subject: RE: CS>CG-2
>
>
>Elle writes:
> > ... you should come up with some grand photos and easy steps to follow
> > to make colloidal gold. apologies Mike ... we love gold as much as
> > silver.
>
>It's been a fact of life from the beginning that CG comes up on this
>list, regularly. No harm, no foul, a bit more lattitude allowed than on
>most OT threads.
>
>Peace,
>
>Mike D.
>list owner
>
>
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RE: CS>CG-2

2004-12-22 Thread Yogiboy
Thanks Richard,

But I was more curious then anything else. I have a pretty good
understanding of why people "don't want to heal," Or more correctly
"afraid." I wanted to read someone else's opinion on that.

Regards.

E.

-Original Message-
From: Richard Harris [mailto:yr...@cfl.rr.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 1:44 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Richard Harris
Subject: RE: CS>CG-2

Hi Ernie,
V gives a BECK Papers CD FREE (which I consider worth it's weight in
GOLD)
with any order you send him. V made our Godzilla/BECK zapper/ziller that
my
wife & I use nightly about 1 hour each and have experienced many
wonderful
benefits. We have NO financial connection with V but appreciate his
workmanship, his integrity, his economic prices and the fact that V
monitors
most of these Sites and is quite handy for help or information. V's
address:
v...@powerlessons.net
This CD contains a 2 hr video college lecture; several of his audeo
lectures, 2 of Dr. Hulda Clark's books and a host of other excellent,
useful
readings you'd be interested in.
Check my new Site below & drop me a critique if time permits.
Sincerely,
___
Richard Harris, 57 Year FL Pharmacist
448 West Juniata Street
Clermont, FL 34711
www.rharrisinc.com
www.myseahealth.com/reh
http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com



-Original Message-
From: Yogiboy [mailto:epa...@sympatico.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 1:32 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>CG-2


Hello Richard,

This Dr. Bob Beck, is there a book that I could read regarding this
statistic on how people don't want to be healed?

Sincerely..Ernie



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Re: CS>CG-2

2004-12-22 Thread cliff hume

Ernie:

It isn't that they don't want to be healed; they just don't want to admit to 
themselves that they, and even their parents, have been lied to all of their 
life.


If you want to read something informative, the best thing to do would be to 
find a copy of the book that Bill Clinton's former professor, Carroll 
Quigley wrote by the name of Tragedy & Hope. They were pulled from all of 
the libraries in Canada and the United States, but some rat-fink had them 
reprinted, making them a real hot item - in the land of the free and the 
home of the brave.


Kindest regards,

Cliff.


- Original Message - 
From: "Yogiboy" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 10:32 AM
Subject: RE: CS>CG-2



Hello Richard,

This Dr. Bob Beck, is there a book that I could read regarding this
statistic on how people don't want to be healed?

Sincerely..Ernie


-Original Message-
From: Richard Harris [mailto:yr...@cfl.rr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 11:53 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Richard Harris
Subject: RE: CS>CG-2
I make and sell CS and am delighted in the many wonderful ways that God
has
blessed those who used it and received healing of their problems. At
first,
I Gave the 1st qt CS FREE to those who professed interest--meeting them
a
couple weeks later, I'd ask how they were doing. Most replied, "Oh I
haven't
taken or used CS yet, I'm waiting to ask my doctor." Then I began
selling
the first qt for $10 and once they had their $$ invested, they'd take
and
use CS and report the success. Dr. Bob BECK was so right when he stated
that
85% of the people didn't really WANT to heal their problems.

Merry Christmas and a Happy, Healthy, Prosperous NEW YEAR to ALL!

Sincerely,
_
Richard Harris, 57 Year FL Pharmacist
448 West Juniata Street
Clermont, FL 34711
www.rharrisinc.com
www.myseahealth.com/reh
http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com

-Original Message-
From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 6:00 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>CG-2


Elle writes:

... you should come up with some grand photos and easy steps to follow
to make colloidal gold. apologies Mike ... we love gold as much as
silver.


It's been a fact of life from the beginning that CG comes up on this
list, regularly. No harm, no foul, a bit more lattitude allowed than on
most OT threads.

Peace,

Mike D.
list owner



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RE: CS>CG-2

2004-12-22 Thread Richard Harris
Hi Ernie,
V gives a BECK Papers CD FREE (which I consider worth it's weight in GOLD)
with any order you send him. V made our Godzilla/BECK zapper/ziller that my
wife & I use nightly about 1 hour each and have experienced many wonderful
benefits. We have NO financial connection with V but appreciate his
workmanship, his integrity, his economic prices and the fact that V monitors
most of these Sites and is quite handy for help or information. V's address:
v...@powerlessons.net
This CD contains a 2 hr video college lecture; several of his audeo
lectures, 2 of Dr. Hulda Clark's books and a host of other excellent, useful
readings you'd be interested in.
Check my new Site below & drop me a critique if time permits.
Sincerely,
___
Richard Harris, 57 Year FL Pharmacist
448 West Juniata Street
Clermont, FL 34711
www.rharrisinc.com
www.myseahealth.com/reh
http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com



-Original Message-
From: Yogiboy [mailto:epa...@sympatico.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 1:32 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>CG-2


Hello Richard,

This Dr. Bob Beck, is there a book that I could read regarding this
statistic on how people don't want to be healed?

Sincerely..Ernie



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RE: CS>CG-2

2004-12-22 Thread Yogiboy
Hello Richard,

This Dr. Bob Beck, is there a book that I could read regarding this
statistic on how people don't want to be healed?

Sincerely..Ernie


-Original Message-
From: Richard Harris [mailto:yr...@cfl.rr.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 11:53 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Cc: Richard Harris
Subject: RE: CS>CG-2
I make and sell CS and am delighted in the many wonderful ways that God
has
blessed those who used it and received healing of their problems. At
first,
I Gave the 1st qt CS FREE to those who professed interest--meeting them
a
couple weeks later, I'd ask how they were doing. Most replied, "Oh I
haven't
taken or used CS yet, I'm waiting to ask my doctor." Then I began
selling
the first qt for $10 and once they had their $$ invested, they'd take
and
use CS and report the success. Dr. Bob BECK was so right when he stated
that
85% of the people didn't really WANT to heal their problems.

Merry Christmas and a Happy, Healthy, Prosperous NEW YEAR to ALL!

Sincerely,
_
Richard Harris, 57 Year FL Pharmacist
448 West Juniata Street
Clermont, FL 34711
www.rharrisinc.com
www.myseahealth.com/reh
http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com

 -Original Message-
From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 6:00 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>CG-2


Elle writes:
> ... you should come up with some grand photos and easy steps to follow
> to make colloidal gold. apologies Mike ... we love gold as much as
> silver.

It's been a fact of life from the beginning that CG comes up on this
list, regularly. No harm, no foul, a bit more lattitude allowed than on
most OT threads.

Peace,

Mike D.
list owner



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RE: CS>CG-2

2004-12-22 Thread Richard Harris
Hi Mike & Elle,

Thanks for this wonderful Site that shares so much helpful advice and
experience from Experts who truly Care and Generously Share with "us
seekers".

Elle, We must remember that CS is easy and harmless in dc manufacturing
techniques; however, we read that CG must be manufactured with Hi voltage ac
and can be very dangerous--to the point of being perhaps fatal. I, as a
Pacemaker wearer have decided that should I need CG, I shall get someone
more knowledgable and safety prepared to make CG for me. At age 82 today, I
have survived 4 years in the Pacific as a Marine Rifle Platoon Leader in
WWII, with 2 Purple Hearts and a Bronze Star; 57 years as a FL Pharmacist
often working on my feet 12 hour days; 58 years of marriage to my same
beautiful bride; parenting 5 children thru SS & Church, little league,
scouting and many other problems; the last thing I need is to try to make my
own CG and electrocute myself in the process.

I make and sell CS and am delighted in the many wonderful ways that God has
blessed those who used it and received healing of their problems. At first,
I Gave the 1st qt CS FREE to those who professed interest--meeting them a
couple weeks later, I'd ask how they were doing. Most replied, "Oh I haven't
taken or used CS yet, I'm waiting to ask my doctor." Then I began selling
the first qt for $10 and once they had their $$ invested, they'd take and
use CS and report the success. Dr. Bob BECK was so right when he stated that
85% of the people didn't really WANT to heal their problems.

Merry Christmas and a Happy, Healthy, Prosperous NEW YEAR to ALL!

Sincerely,
_
Richard Harris, 57 Year FL Pharmacist
448 West Juniata Street
Clermont, FL 34711
www.rharrisinc.com
www.myseahealth.com/reh
http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com

 -Original Message-
From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 6:00 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>CG-2


Elle writes:
> ... you should come up with some grand photos and easy steps to follow
> to make colloidal gold. apologies Mike ... we love gold as much as
> silver.

It's been a fact of life from the beginning that CG comes up on this
list, regularly. No harm, no foul, a bit more lattitude allowed than on
most OT threads.

Peace,

Mike D.
list owner



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RE: CS>CG-2

2004-12-22 Thread M. G. Devour
Elle writes:
> ... you should come up with some grand photos and easy steps to follow
> to make colloidal gold. apologies Mike ... we love gold as much as
> silver.

It's been a fact of life from the beginning that CG comes up on this 
list, regularly. No harm, no foul, a bit more lattitude allowed than on 
most OT threads.

Peace,

Mike D.
list owner

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[mdev...@eskimo.com]
[Speaking only for myself...   ]


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RE: CS>CG-2

2004-12-21 Thread elle roberts

ooops that should be http://biochi.com
=)
elle
>From: "William Amos" 
>Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Subject: CS>CG-2
>Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:43:07
>
>After I am satisfied with the water, I can begin. It sounds like a lot of preparation, but it soon becomes routine.
>I am making one pint and it will take three hours. I have it set up on timers. I heat the water in the microwave for 2 minutes or about 130 degrees. and have a thick plastic cap that is drilled for different rod spacings. I space my pure gold rods  1-1/4 inches apart in a total submerged fashion. There is no arcing between the rods during the first two hours of using a 15000 vac neon transformer. The gold rods are about
>1/16 inch in diameter. There is also no indication (Tyndall) of any gold forming in the solution while the HVAC is on.
>I believe, and this is my opinion, that the surface of the rods are softened by the high voltage passing through the solution.
>After 2 hours of high voltage the timer turns the transformer off and after 2 minutes another timer turns on my low voltage DC (30 volts). This can be done without timers
>if you want to watch it. Within a few minutes there is a light tyndall and it increases for the next hour while it is on 30vdc.
>So basically I am producing CG with 30vdc and only preparing the rods with HVAC. I also notice that more than an hour on DC will dim the tyndall indicating the gold is redepositing on one of the rods. The solution remains totally clear except for a strong tyndall.  And for some of those who have used it, I am told there have been good results, why else would you make it ? I'm open to any comments, questions or critics.
>End of story !
>Bill
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RE: CS>CG-2

2004-12-21 Thread elle roberts

Bill,
please try this ... go to google search engine and in the search at the top (not the google search) type biochi.com ... after that look for the topic 'projects' ... then find 'minerals dissolution in water medium' ... you should come up with some grand photos and easy steps to follow to make colloidal gold.
apologies Mike ... we love gold as much as silver.
elle
>From: "William Amos" 
>Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Subject: CS>CG-2
>Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:43:07
>
>After I am satisfied with the water, I can begin. It sounds like a lot of preparation, but it soon becomes routine.
>I am making one pint and it will take three hours. I have it set up on timers. I heat the water in the microwave for 2 minutes or about 130 degrees. and have a thick plastic cap that is drilled for different rod spacings. I space my pure gold rods  1-1/4 inches apart in a total submerged fashion. There is no arcing between the rods during the first two hours of using a 15000 vac neon transformer. The gold rods are about
>1/16 inch in diameter. There is also no indication (Tyndall) of any gold forming in the solution while the HVAC is on.
>I believe, and this is my opinion, that the surface of the rods are softened by the high voltage passing through the solution.
>After 2 hours of high voltage the timer turns the transformer off and after 2 minutes another timer turns on my low voltage DC (30 volts). This can be done without timers
>if you want to watch it. Within a few minutes there is a light tyndall and it increases for the next hour while it is on 30vdc.
>So basically I am producing CG with 30vdc and only preparing the rods with HVAC. I also notice that more than an hour on DC will dim the tyndall indicating the gold is redepositing on one of the rods. The solution remains totally clear except for a strong tyndall.  And for some of those who have used it, I am told there have been good results, why else would you make it ? I'm open to any comments, questions or critics.
>End of story !
>Bill
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Re: CS>CG with LVDC ?

2004-06-07 Thread Marshall Dudley
Generally speaking, it is not possible to make CG without arcing, that is, EIG 
is not possible, it requires either evaporation or
sputtering.

Marshall

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Re: CS> CG, CC, and CS

2003-04-10 Thread INGRID KROPP-OVERSTREET
ok any thoughts on these three. I'm sure it's probably been covered. but I've 
only been on the list for roughly two weeks. I'm still a rookie. can some one 
give me a brief and simple as can be summary of these three. I just want to 
know what colloidal copper helps with in the body and I have heard colloidal 
gold is good with ADD/ADHD. what benefits will I experience using these three.  

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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Where's the article Please??

<<<>>

At 05:55 AM 4/8/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>Speaking of Copper, I've heard that copper is an essential element that  
>our body needs and that we don't get nearly enough of it in our diets. I  
>wear a 99% pure copper bracelet to offset arthritis pain, (don't laugh, it  
>works), the copper is absorbed through the skin.  My question is can the  
>silver rod in my CS generator be replaced with pure copper to add copper  
>to the CS?
>
>Jim
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Re: CS>CG

2002-02-03 Thread Marshall Dudley
Yes a faraday cage is what you need.  You might try a copper screen wire
enclosure around the apparatus.  Also purchase some ferrite rings and be
sure to wind a few turns of any wire that comes out of the cage around
them, such as power and be sure to ground the screen.

Marshall

Joseph Fritz wrote:

>  At 06:43 PM 1/19/02 +0100, you wrote:
>
>
>> I have something that bothers me. The spark is generating high
>> powered electronic noise in the naberhood, this is disturbing for
>> all the nabourers that are listening to the radio or watching
>> television. Apart from the disturbance, there are always official
>> people on the road with a special equipped vehicle to listen in on
>> illegal transmissions. I am afraid that I am transmitting legally.
>> Is there something that can be done to limit the radio disturbance?
>>
>> Satchid
>
>
> Try looking up info on a faraday cage its basically a grounded metal
> box
>
> Joseph B Fritz


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RE: CS>CG

2002-02-02 Thread Joseph Fritz

At 06:43 PM 1/19/02 +0100, you wrote:

I have something that bothers me. The spark is generating high powered 
electronic noise in the naberhood, this is disturbing for all the 
nabourers that are listening to the radio or watching television. Apart 
from the disturbance, there are always official people on the road with a 
special equipped vehicle to listen in on illegal transmissions. I am 
afraid that I am transmitting legally.

Is there something that can be done to limit the radio disturbance?

Satchid


Try looking up info on a faraday cage its basically a grounded metal box

Joseph B Fritz

Re: CS>CG

2002-01-20 Thread Wayne Fugitt

Evening Marshall,

   Thanks for all the details on transformers.

>>Sounds like a good place to start.  Be careful, I have been bit at least 
3 or 4

times by mine, the blasted secondary voltage will jump an inch or more to your
hand if nor careful. You don't have to touch it.


   Yes, I agree this high voltage stuff is not for everyone.  I certainly 
know enough to respect it, even though I have worked with it very little.


At one time, I serviced all of the quality control equipment in a 
battery manufacturing facility.  One piece of test equipment  was much like 
a megger or high voltage tester.  It was used to read the imperfections 
between the plates within the batteries.


   When I had these in my shop, I stood on rubber matting when I had to 
make a few measurements with power on.   Also kept one hand in the hip 
pocket and kept all body parts at as much distance as possible.


   As for the ultimate lesson in high voltage, one needs to be hit by 
lightning.  It happened to me.
I was talking on the phone in a metal building.  The voltage came down the 
phone wire, rattled my elbows on the table, knocked me and the chair a few 
feet backwards, an of course knocked the phone out of my hand.


  I could taste blood in the mouth and the whole side of my face was numb 
just like a dentist visit for about 1 to 1.5 hours.


  Sure wish I could have measured that one.  Since that day, I don't talk 
on the phone during a thunderstorm.


  Wayne




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Re: CS>CG

2002-01-19 Thread Marshall Dudley
Wayne Fugitt wrote:

> Morning Marshall,
>
>  > Ok, I made CG now for the first time. I have 2 neon transformer
> > > primary coils in parallel, secondary (high voltage) in series.
> > > This will burn up one or both transformers within a day or two.
> > > Already made that mistake myself when I first started working with
> > > them.  The secondary is center tapped and attached to the case, which
> > > suppose to be grounded.  Thus 1/2 of each winding will be totally
> > > shorted out.
>
>   Will all of the high voltage transformers have a center tap that is
> grounded in the manner you describe?
>

All the neon ones I know of do.

>
> Looks like it would short out much quicker than a few days.  A short is bad
> design in any case.
>
> If proper safety precautions were taken, could the system not be run
> ungrounded?   Possibly the internal design of the transformer uses the
> ground and the frame to function with flux lines, ect.
>

No, not really. You could isolate the cases of the two NST's from each other
and ground, and then they would end up 5 or more KV above ground on each case.
The problem is that the insulation on the secondary is made to handle these
voltages, but the insulation of the primary is not.  So instead of burning up a
secondary winding, it will end up arcing over internally between the case that
is on the center tap of the secondary, and the primary which is grounded.  The
result will be a shorted primary.

>
> Magnetism and flux lines, and all the internal happening within
> transformers is something that few of us master or understand.
>
> My thoughts are that many devices, including the transformers are a
> "compromise in design".  A perfectly designed and built transformer would
> cost many times what the market is willing to bear.
>
> In picking up bits and pieces of this task, it now appears that a
> transformer designed and built just for this application would be in order.
>

I find the 15KV NST's to work very well for CS.  Also they should work well for
CS using the underwater arc method.

>
> Has anyone tried connecting the output from one transformer into the input
> of another one?  If the transformer materials can stand it, this would be
> one way to gain some voltage from simpler transformers.

Transformers are typically designed with only so much margin.  If you double
voltage by running a 120 VAC transformer from the 240 VAC output of a step up
transformer you will run into at least 3 problems. First if the second
transformer is a HV transformer such as a NST, then the secondary will break
down due to the voltages being way over the design limit. Second the leakage
flux of the primary is designed to not saturate the core at 120 will most like
saturate the core at 240, resulting in an extremely high primary current
burning it out.  Third, if neither of these got you, then the dissipation of
the transformer would go up by 4:1 minimum, resulting in heat related failure.

>
>
> Just called an electrical contractor friend. He has a number of these
> transformers he had collected over a few years.
> He only carried them to the dump a month or so ago.  So I have to check
> some more sources. One he said, output
> 20,000 volts.

Sounds like a good place to start.  Be careful, I have been bit at least 3 or 4
times by mine, the blasted secondary voltage will jump an inch or more to your
hand if nor careful. You don't have to touch it.

Marshall


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RE: CS>CG

2002-01-19 Thread Satchid
To all on the list.

This is to thank you all for your input to help other people to get some of
their goals fulfilled and others to survive. I thank you all specially for
the help you gave me concerning the making of this CG generator.
Thank you all.

Satchid



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From: Wayne Fugitt [mailto:wa...@fugitt.com]
Sent: zaterdag 19 januari 2002 21:41
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>CG


Morning Marshall,

 > Ok, I made CG now for the first time. I have 2 neon transformer
> > primary coils in parallel, secondary (high voltage) in series.
> > This will burn up one or both transformers within a day or two.
> > Already made that mistake myself when I first started working with
> > them.  The secondary is center tapped and attached to the case, which
> > suppose to be grounded.  Thus 1/2 of each winding will be totally
> > shorted out.

  Will all of the high voltage transformers have a center tap that is
grounded in the manner you describe?

Looks like it would short out much quicker than a few days.  A short is bad
design in any case.

If proper safety precautions were taken, could the system not be run
ungrounded?   Possibly the internal design of the transformer uses the
ground and the frame to function with flux lines, ect.

Magnetism and flux lines, and all the internal happening within
transformers is something that few of us master or understand.

My thoughts are that many devices, including the transformers are a
"compromise in design".  A perfectly designed and built transformer would
cost many times what the market is willing to bear.

In picking up bits and pieces of this task, it now appears that a
transformer designed and built just for this application would be in order.

Has anyone tried connecting the output from one transformer into the input
of another one?  If the transformer materials can stand it, this would be
one way to gain some voltage from simpler transformers.

Just called an electrical contractor friend. He has a number of these
transformers he had collected over a few years.
He only carried them to the dump a month or so ago.  So I have to check
some more sources. One he said, output
20,000 volts.

Wayne









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Re: CS>CG

2002-01-19 Thread Wayne Fugitt

Morning Marshall,

> Ok, I made CG now for the first time. I have 2 neon transformer

> primary coils in parallel, secondary (high voltage) in series.
> This will burn up one or both transformers within a day or two.
> Already made that mistake myself when I first started working with
> them.  The secondary is center tapped and attached to the case, which
> suppose to be grounded.  Thus 1/2 of each winding will be totally
> shorted out.


 Will all of the high voltage transformers have a center tap that is 
grounded in the manner you describe?


Looks like it would short out much quicker than a few days.  A short is bad 
design in any case.


If proper safety precautions were taken, could the system not be run 
ungrounded?   Possibly the internal design of the transformer uses the 
ground and the frame to function with flux lines, ect.


Magnetism and flux lines, and all the internal happening within 
transformers is something that few of us master or understand.


My thoughts are that many devices, including the transformers are a 
"compromise in design".  A perfectly designed and built transformer would 
cost many times what the market is willing to bear.


In picking up bits and pieces of this task, it now appears that a 
transformer designed and built just for this application would be in order.


Has anyone tried connecting the output from one transformer into the input 
of another one?  If the transformer materials can stand it, this would be 
one way to gain some voltage from simpler transformers.


Just called an electrical contractor friend. He has a number of these 
transformers he had collected over a few years.
He only carried them to the dump a month or so ago.  So I have to check 
some more sources. One he said, output

20,000 volts.

Wayne









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RE: CS>CG

2002-01-19 Thread Trem

Hi Satchid,

The problem with sparking is that it transmits at ALL frequencies at once 
and is not tunable.  That's because arcing is basically a square 
wave.  Square waves are made up of all frequencies.  It will be picked up 
on all bands from LF to AM to FM to TV, etc.  Your best bet is to make a 
Faraday shield around the setup to contain the actual arc transmission and 
to install an RF filter on the AC line to keep interference from leaking 
back into the mains.


Hope this helps.

Trem

At 06:43 PM 1/19/2002 +0100, you wrote:
Ok, I made CG now for the first time. I have 2 neon transformer primary 
coils in parallel, secondary (high voltage) in series. Then made 2 holes 
in a 1/4 " plastic plate and inserted 2 gold wires trough them. I bend 
them to have approximately 1 mm gap between them. then I connected the 
High-tension wires to the gold. filled the (1/2 liter) jar with DW and 
inserted the gold wires in the water. about  12 to 15 mm submersed in the 
water. Then plugged in and watched a good spark between the electrodes. 
After about 30 minutes I stopped the process. there is a good but very 
thin TE. the solution is still very clear.


This is only a test setup. I will now work on the electrode arrangement 
that was posted earlier.


I have something that bothers me. The spark is generating high powered 
electronic noise in the naberhood, this is disturbing for all the 
nabourers that are listening to the radio or watching television. Apart 
from the disturbance, there are always official people on the road with a 
special equipped vehicle to listen in on illegal transmissions. I am 
afraid that I am transmitting legally.

Is there something that can be done to limit the radio disturbance?

Satchid
-Original Message-
From: rob-bac [mailto:rob...@zonnet.nl]
Sent: zaterdag 19 januari 2002 16:04
To: silver-list
Subject: CS>CG

Thanks Ole-Bob and others, for your comments how to start with CG making.
Especially the drawing of Ole Bob's elektrode holder I copied on paper and 
will study that. Probably next week I will pick up a CG generator from a 
friend who bought one from the US, we can use that here with an extra 
trafo 100->220V. It probably is such an arc CG generator. I will see how 
the elektrodes are placed and certainly will follow your advice. Even 
making the holder will not be to difficult. Thanks for the help and the 
offer about the pyrex tubes. If I'm unable to obtain them here I'll let 
you know.

RB


Re: CS>CG

2002-01-19 Thread Marshall Dudley
Satchid wrote:

> Ok, I made CG now for the first time. I have 2 neon transformer
> primary coils in parallel, secondary (high voltage) in series.
>
>
> This will burn up one or both transformers within a day or two.
> Already made that mistake myself when I first started working with
> them.  The secondary is center tapped and attached to the case, which
> suppose to be grounded.  Thus 1/2 of each winding will be totally
> shorted out.  Problem is that even though the transformers are shunt
> protected against shorts, they are made for both windings being
> shorted, and if you only short 1/2 the transformer, the shunt current
> will be twice what it should be on a short, and the windings will burn
> out very quickly.  Lost a $150 brand new one that way when I first
> started.
>
> Marshall


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RE: CS>CG

2002-01-19 Thread Satchid
Ok, I made CG now for the first time. I have 2 neon transformer primary
coils in parallel, secondary (high voltage) in series. Then made 2 holes in
a 1/4 " plastic plate and inserted 2 gold wires trough them. I bend them to
have approximately 1 mm gap between them. then I connected the High-tension
wires to the gold. filled the (1/2 liter) jar with DW and inserted the gold
wires in the water. about  12 to 15 mm submersed in the water. Then plugged
in and watched a good spark between the electrodes. After about 30 minutes I
stopped the process. there is a good but very thin TE. the solution is still
very clear.

This is only a test setup. I will now work on the electrode arrangement that
was posted earlier.

I have something that bothers me. The spark is generating high powered
electronic noise in the naberhood, this is disturbing for all the nabourers
that are listening to the radio or watching television. Apart from the
disturbance, there are always official people on the road with a special
equipped vehicle to listen in on illegal transmissions. I am afraid that I
am transmitting legally.
Is there something that can be done to limit the radio disturbance?

Satchid
  -Original Message-
  From: rob-bac [mailto:rob...@zonnet.nl]
  Sent: zaterdag 19 januari 2002 16:04
  To: silver-list
  Subject: CS>CG


  Thanks Ole-Bob and others, for your comments how to start with CG making.
  Especially the drawing of Ole Bob's elektrode holder I copied on paper and
will study that. Probably next week I will pick up a CG generator from a
friend who bought one from the US, we can use that here with an extra trafo
100->220V. It probably is such an arc CG generator. I will see how the
elektrodes are placed and certainly will follow your advice. Even making the
holder will not be to difficult. Thanks for the help and the offer about the
pyrex tubes. If I'm unable to obtain them here I'll let you know.
  RB


Re: CS>CG question

2001-07-12 Thread Tony Moody
I didn't see any junk. But that empty, invisible attachment is scary. 
Tony

Ivan Anderson wrote:
> 
> Daniel,
> 
> PLAIN TEXT PLEASE!!!
> 
> I do not appreciate the junk that accompanied your message.
> 
> Ivan


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RE: CS>CG question

2001-07-12 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
I doubt it intentional in this instance, but:

Torch = phallus/sun = very fundamental symbol of the Illuminati. 

James-Osbourne: Holmes

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From: larry tankersley [mailto:la...@webtv.net]
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 5:50 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>CG question

Dear list. I'm sure Mr Merlin Wolf doesn't realise the
micro-softies have subliminal messages implanted in the "music" and if
listened to you end up buying copies of windows and start giving them to
everyone you know. I'm not sure what the flaming phallic and
plussing neon is all about,but I'm sure it's purpose is even more
sinister... perhaps connected with devil worship or at the very least
might cause sexual deviance.
Mr Merlin please do some tecno majic and can this trash as it's already
infected the whole digest from start to finish and I'm sure is why I
feel so grumpy this morning ...I can only guess how ole Bob is
feeling...



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RE: CS>CG question

2001-07-12 Thread larry tankersley
Dear list. I'm sure Mr Merlin Wolf doesn't realise the
micro-softies have subliminal messages implanted in the "music" and if
listened to you end up buying copies of windows and start giving them to
everyone you know. I'm not sure what the flaming phallic and
plussing neon is all about,but I'm sure it's purpose is even more
sinister... perhaps connected with devil worship or at the very least
might cause sexual deviance. 
Mr Merlin please do some tecno majic and can this trash as it's already
infected the whole digest from start to finish and I'm sure is why I
feel so grumpy this morning ...I can only guess how ole Bob is
feeling...



larry tankersley; Gainesville,Florida USA


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Re: CS>CG question

2001-07-11 Thread Stella Novus

  - Original Message - 
  From: Stella Novus 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 4:15 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>CG question


  DON"T USE MY NORMAL INBOX !
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From: G. T. 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 1:43 PM
Subject: RE: CS>CG question


sheesh- what was that music? 



>From: "Ivan Anderson" 
>Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
    >To: 
>Subject: RE: CS>CG question 
>Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 10:50:44 +1200 
> 
>Daniel, 
> 
>PLAIN TEXT PLEASE!!! 
> 
>I do not appreciate the junk that accompanied your message. 
> 
>Ivan 
> 
> 
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Re: CS>CG question

2001-07-11 Thread Stella Novus
DON"T USE MY NORMAL INBOX !
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  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 1:43 PM
  Subject: RE: CS>CG question


  sheesh- what was that music? 



  >From: "Ivan Anderson" 
  >Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  >To: 
  >Subject: RE: CS>CG question 
  >Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 10:50:44 +1200 
  > 
  >Daniel, 
  > 
  >PLAIN TEXT PLEASE!!! 
  > 
  >I do not appreciate the junk that accompanied your message. 
  > 
  >Ivan 
  > 
  > 
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RE: CS>CG question

2001-07-11 Thread G. T.

sheesh- what was that music? 

>From: "Ivan Anderson" 
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>Subject: RE: CS>CG question 
>Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 10:50:44 +1200 
> 
>Daniel, 
> 
>PLAIN TEXT PLEASE!!! 
> 
>I do not appreciate the junk that accompanied your message. 
> 
>Ivan 
> 
> 
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Re: CS>CG question

2001-07-11 Thread Joanne
I k inda   liked  your *junk* ..pleasant change.. but when I saw it I knew
you'd be in trouble. ..:-)  I  can't remember the name of the song  although
I know   that I know it.  So what was it?

Joanne
www.snowcrest.net/samijo

- Original Message -
From: "Ivan Anderson" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 3:50 PM
Subject: RE: CS>CG question


> Daniel,
>
> PLAIN TEXT PLEASE!!!
>
> I do not appreciate the junk that accompanied your message.
>
> Ivan
>
>
>
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RE: CS>CG question

2001-07-11 Thread Ivan Anderson
Daniel,

PLAIN TEXT PLEASE!!!

I do not appreciate the junk that accompanied your message.

Ivan
 


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Re: CS>CG question

2001-07-11 Thread Daniel Bangs
 Ole Bob,  I am a newbie on the list and really enjoy being here.
Several years ago I experimentally produced ~ 1 liter of dark magenta
color CG by submerged arcing fine gold wire, 140V half wave DC. Great
laser track and indestructable with lab UV or direct sunlight for
several days. Over ~ 4 yrs several of my 50ml clear plastic sample
bottles of this CG developed bacterial colonies. In the future I will
preserve the product with a dab of CS.

Merlin Wolf















Re: CS>CG question

2001-07-10 Thread Robert L. Berger
Jr.

As of today no one has been successful in making CG with DC.

"Ole Bob"

jrowl...@nctimes.net wrote:

> Do you think 2 gold electrodes, 27 volts DC, and distilled water, will
> give
> one ppm for each minute of charge?
> Thanks,
> jr
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Re: CS>CG and depression

2000-07-08 Thread Judith Thamm

> Yes, colloidal gold did stop my depression. I no longer take it
though
> because I'm NOT depressed anymore. It worked for me but not for some
> others I met by email.
> I'll send you more information if you are interested.
>
> Michael
>

The reason why other were not relieved of their clinical depression
may have been because the cause was different.  One of the greatest
causes of any depression is the artificial sweetener - Aspartame,
Equal, NutraSweet - now found in over 9000 products - frequently
without any specific detail in the product label - also found in
pharmaceuticals.  If it's 'sugar-free' 'diet' 'no added sugar' and is
super sweet, CAUTION!

I have a client at the moment worried about the lethargy and apparent
depression of her children - as it is winter time just now I asked if
the children were taking orange flavoured Vit C tablets?  "Yes" Please
read me the contents - no mention of the sweetener.  Do they taste
very sweet to you?  "Yes, sort of sickly sweet.."  And that is how you
pick aspartame [and all the other names.]

What do you do with it?  Well you can take it back to the store and
ask for your money back, or you can use it as ant killer - works
wonderfully as that!

Judith.



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Re: CS>CG and depression

2000-07-05 Thread mikel
Yes, colloidal gold did stop my depression. I no longer take it though
because I'm NOT depressed anymore. It worked for me but not for some
others I met by email.
I'll send you more information if you are interested. 

Michael

fernwo...@aol.com wrote:
> 
> << I also read that CG can stop a clinical depression in one dose.
>  Some health food stores carry CG. >>
> 
> Does anyone know of people whose depression has been cured with Colloidal
> Gold?  If so, is there a way to determine if what is sold at a health food
> store is good?  Thanks for your help!   Karen
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Re: CS>CG and depression

2000-07-05 Thread Daniel Holly

- Original Message -
From: 
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Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 1:13 PM
Subject: CS>CG and depression


>
>
> << I also read that CG can stop a clinical depression in one dose.
>  Some health food stores carry CG. >>
>
> Does anyone know of people whose depression has been cured with Colloidal
> Gold?  If so, is there a way to determine if what is sold at a health food
> store is good?  Thanks for your help!   Karen

www.colloidalgold.com is on the level. I would order from him.



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