Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue / NIACIN
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Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue
No problem Marshall. Kurt Marshall Dudley wrote: Wow! That is news to me, but searching the net, I find quite a few articles on this. Definitely worth more research on my part. Thanks, Marshall Kurt Milkowski wrote: > The pathogen is Borrelia burgdorferi and all of its friends. The > aspartame and mercury are food for the bugs. Yes lyme has been around > for a long time, they just keep making it better all the time. Keeps > us confused that way. In a recent study 100 out of 100 alzhiemers > patients tested postive for Bb post mortum, very intersting. > > Kurt > > */Marshall Dudley /* wrote: > > I used the wrong word. I meant weapnoized for the lyme. Lyme existed > long before it was apparently weaponized, but apparently as a much > less > virulent strain. The present epidemic seems to have developed from a > strain that appeared near Lyme in the 70's. > > Do you have anything to support that the other diseases you listed > are > designer? I know that several can be caused by neurotoxins, such as > aspertame and mercury, but as a designer disease, I would think a > pathogen would be required. > > Marshall > > Kurt Milkowski wrote: > > Well you have to look at how long other "designer" disease have > been > > around. Here are a few, alhiemers, als, parkinsons, ms, lupus, > autism, > > just to name a few. > > Kurt > > */Marshall Dudley /* wrote: > > > > Kurt Milkowski wrote: > > > How long do you think lyme has been around? It's not a "new" > > disease, > > > been around for a long time. Just became named recently. > > From what I have been able to determine it was "designed" in the > > early > > to mid 80's, then released to the wild near the naval base's > > biological > > warefare research center around Lyme around 1986 or so. > > > > Marshall > > > > > > */Marshall Dudley /* wrote: > > > > > > Kurt Milkowski wrote: > > > > Hey Jess, > > > > > > > > Most likely the mmr vaccine would be the likely culprit. This is > > > the > > > > one that seems to be causing autism, which is lyme under another > > > name. > > > How can you arrive at that conclusion? Autism predates Lyme by a > > > century or more. > > > > > > Marshall > > > > > > > > Kurt > > > > > > > > */jessie70 /* wrote: > > > > > > > > Kurt, you got lyme disease from which vaccine? Thanks, Jess > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > *From:* Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] > > > > *Sent:* Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:31 PM > > > > *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > *Subject:* Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue > > > > > > > > Hey Kathryn, > > > > > > > > No problem. Yep the mycoplasma is used alot in bio-weapons. > > > > Check into lyme disease, thats what I have, got it from a > > > > vaccine. Lots of folks with lyme suffer from cfs and fibro. > > > > > > > > Kurt > > > > > > > > */Clayton Family /* wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks for posting this whole series. It is interesting > > > > reading. The > > > > chronic fatigue part stood out for me. > > > > > > > > "Brucella mycoplasma was probably responsible for chronic > > > > fatigue > > > > syndrome and fibromyalgia as well." > > > > > > > > It is known that fungal toxins can cause chronic fatigue, > > > > and it may > > > > well be that there are many other kinds of toxins and > > > > infections > > > > involved too. I read somewhere about other mycoplasma > > > > infections being > > > > implicated in asthma, and maybe other immune related > > > > conditions. Asthma > > > > can be caused by Valley Fever, which is an endemic fungi > > > > residing in > > > > the strata in the western states. > > > > > > > > I took antifungals for 18 months to rid myself of an > > > > entrenched fungal > > > > infection: it seemed to work, yet when I started CS, I > > > > began having die > > > > off rxns, and other rxns which were the same as what I get > > > > when exposed > > > > to toxins. Therefore, maybe the CS also releases cellular > > > > toxins in > > > > some w
Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue-Dave
Leslie wrote: Glad to know the CS took care of the problem. What ppm's did you take? I have gotten 15 and was afraid to take since I was told to try for 10 ppms. Uh, if you take a quart of 15 ppm, and add a pint of distilled water, you will have 10 ppm. Now, the MMS; I was leary for some reason so please let us know your reactions to this. There seemed to be a conflict with what www.coljoe.com had said and I can't remember. That is how I was affected from mercury! But I am working on getting better. I have been taking MMS. Not much to report, no nausea, but I was probably pretty devoid of pathogens already since I take CS. The only affect I have had is that my floaters have completely gone away, first time in about 20 years. Marshall Leslie From: "Dave" To: Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 10:25 PM Subject: Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue-Dave Yes but compared to what I was going through with the Lyme I didn't give a damn if it killed me. So when the herx started I just ignored it. I had already been through a couple of pint bottles and thought it was another scam so I jumped right in with both feet and when the Herx hit I was thankful for it because i then new it was actually doing something. Dave Clayton Family wrote: Thanks. Did you have any adverse reactions to that amount of cs? Like herks, or something else? -Kathryn On Oct 17, 2007, at 7:54 PM, Dave wrote: I took 6 ounces every half hour of awake time for three days and it broke like a fever in the middle of the night. I've had almost four years of health and energy like a twenty year old ( I was 68 at the time) Now I'm getting tired a lot so don't know if it is coming back or not. No other symptoms. I have been taking MMS and seeing some improvement . Dave Clayton Family wrote: Now this is useful information, thanks. How much did you take to get it under control, and did it go underground, or get killed off? Kathryn On Oct 17, 2007, at 1:17 PM, Dave wrote: I think that is when they discovered it ( named it) not when it began, before that they called it whatever it seemed to mimic, as Lyme does present a number of maladies. When they had me in the hos -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue-Dave
Dave wrote: My home made is 20 ppm. The MMS i started at 2 drops twice a day for one day then 6 drops twice a day which gave me a small nausea. Then I went to 10 drops and then 10 drops three times a day. A that point I had bad diarrhea and puked out my dental plate into the toilet, not knowing it was gone I flushed the toilet. That cost me $1000.00 Now I take 15 drops after supper and 15 more in two hours with no nausea and am waiting to see what it will do. At this time the blue moons on my fingernails have disappeared except for the thumbs which are spread out and fading. That is some interesting information. I have noticed that I THOUGHT the moons on my fingernails were lightening, but was not sure if I was imagining things or not. I guess I will know in a couple of months. It would be cool if MMS cures argyria. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue-Dave
My home made is 20 ppm. The MMS i started at 2 drops twice a day for one day then 6 drops twice a day which gave me a small nausea. Then I went to 10 drops and then 10 drops three times a day. A that point I had bad diarrhea and puked out my dental plate into the toilet, not knowing it was gone I flushed the toilet. That cost me $1000.00 Now I take 15 drops after supper and 15 more in two hours with no nausea and am waiting to see what it will do. At this time the blue moons on my fingernails have disappeared except for the thumbs which are spread out and fading. My energy level is better and the brain fog problem seems better also. Dave Leslie wrote: Glad to know the CS took care of the problem. What ppm's did you take? I have gotten 15 and was afraid to take since I was told to try for 10 ppms. Now, the MMS; I was leary for some reason so please let us know your reactions to this. There seemed to be a conflict with what www.coljoe.com had said and I can't remember. That is how I was affected from mercury! But I am working on getting better. Leslie From: "Dave" To: Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 10:25 PM Subject: Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue-Dave Yes but compared to what I was going through with the Lyme I didn't give a damn if it killed me. So when the herx started I just ignored it. I had already been through a couple of pint bottles and thought it was another scam so I jumped right in with both feet and when the Herx hit I was thankful for it because i then new it was actually doing something. Dave Clayton Family wrote: Thanks. Did you have any adverse reactions to that amount of cs? Like herks, or something else? -Kathryn On Oct 17, 2007, at 7:54 PM, Dave wrote: I took 6 ounces every half hour of awake time for three days and it broke like a fever in the middle of the night. I've had almost four years of health and energy like a twenty year old ( I was 68 at the time) Now I'm getting tired a lot so don't know if it is coming back or not. No other symptoms. I have been taking MMS and seeing some improvement . Dave Clayton Family wrote: Now this is useful information, thanks. How much did you take to get it under control, and did it go underground, or get killed off? Kathryn On Oct 17, 2007, at 1:17 PM, Dave wrote: I think that is when they discovered it ( named it) not when it began, before that they called it whatever it seemed to mimic, as Lyme does present a number of maladies. When they had me in the hos -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue-Dave
Glad to know the CS took care of the problem. What ppm's did you take? I have gotten 15 and was afraid to take since I was told to try for 10 ppms. Now, the MMS; I was leary for some reason so please let us know your reactions to this. There seemed to be a conflict with what www.coljoe.com had said and I can't remember. That is how I was affected from mercury! But I am working on getting better. Leslie From: "Dave" To: Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 10:25 PM Subject: Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue-Dave Yes but compared to what I was going through with the Lyme I didn't give a damn if it killed me. So when the herx started I just ignored it. I had already been through a couple of pint bottles and thought it was another scam so I jumped right in with both feet and when the Herx hit I was thankful for it because i then new it was actually doing something. Dave Clayton Family wrote: Thanks. Did you have any adverse reactions to that amount of cs? Like herks, or something else? -Kathryn On Oct 17, 2007, at 7:54 PM, Dave wrote: I took 6 ounces every half hour of awake time for three days and it broke like a fever in the middle of the night. I've had almost four years of health and energy like a twenty year old ( I was 68 at the time) Now I'm getting tired a lot so don't know if it is coming back or not. No other symptoms. I have been taking MMS and seeing some improvement . Dave Clayton Family wrote: Now this is useful information, thanks. How much did you take to get it under control, and did it go underground, or get killed off? Kathryn On Oct 17, 2007, at 1:17 PM, Dave wrote: I think that is when they discovered it ( named it) not when it began, before that they called it whatever it seemed to mimic, as Lyme does present a number of maladies. When they had me in the hos -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue / NIACIN
- Original Message - From: "Dave" To: Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 9:26 PM Subject: Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue / NIACIN Nenah: Glad to have you back! I well know the power of Niacin, the first time I used it I took a 500 mg tablet and waited about a half an hour for the flush,it didn't come so I took another one. I turned bright red all over( not like a swim suit) and the slightest movement made me feel like I was rolling in fiberglass insulation. My heart rate came up until it seemed close to that of a jackhammer. That lasted for 12 hours,so that is why I always say to start small and work up. Now I take 3 grams and get a mild flush which is my goal. The niacin has rid me of all spider veins and turned my numb right foot back to normal for a 20 year old. I'm 72. Sounds to me like Hubbard may be full of it! Dave Hi Dave. Thanks for the welcome back. I'm not sure why you say Hubbard was "full of it." If you read the passages carefully, you'll see that Hubbard was NOT saying that everyone who takes niacin gets a "swim suit" response. He was simply observing that people have different responses -- and that if the body is flushing, it makes no sense to have the outlines of a swim suit show up unless the one group of people who took niacin and got their swim suits outlined on their skin had mild cases of sun poisoning, which was being purged from the body. And, indeed, that particular group of people HAD been in the sun. Not everyone had been -- and the people who had not been in the sun, got different responses when taking niacin. Your experiences, and Hubbard's statemtnt that niacin is a potent detoxifier, support each other. I repeat three of the sentences: "The first group of research subjects, who needed to recover from sun poisoning, developed symptoms uniquely related to their condition. The second group manifested symptoms specific to atomic radiation poisoning (as well as more symptoms in general) because they had been exposed to nuclear waste. Hubbard's explanation 50 years ago was convincing then, and seems equally convincing today: that niacin is an effective and powerful catalyst that induces the body's detoxification response without itself becoming transformed in the change." Thank you for your report, Dave. Your report of eliminating the spider veins and making your numb foot normal also hold great promise. This shows the potent power of niacin. It also indicates that at least for you, those two conditions were the result of toxins in your system. Think of what this could mean for other people! Lots of food for thought here Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD http://www.nenahsylver.com * author, The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing * author, The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy ask me why you should be taking * Transfer Factor for superior immune support and * VIBE raw fruit & vegetable concentrate for total nutrition -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue
Wow! That is news to me, but searching the net, I find quite a few articles on this. Definitely worth more research on my part. Thanks, Marshall Kurt Milkowski wrote: The pathogen is Borrelia burgdorferi and all of its friends. The aspartame and mercury are food for the bugs. Yes lyme has been around for a long time, they just keep making it better all the time. Keeps us confused that way. In a recent study 100 out of 100 alzhiemers patients tested postive for Bb post mortum, very intersting. Kurt */Marshall Dudley /* wrote: I used the wrong word. I meant weapnoized for the lyme. Lyme existed long before it was apparently weaponized, but apparently as a much less virulent strain. The present epidemic seems to have developed from a strain that appeared near Lyme in the 70's. Do you have anything to support that the other diseases you listed are designer? I know that several can be caused by neurotoxins, such as aspertame and mercury, but as a designer disease, I would think a pathogen would be required. Marshall Kurt Milkowski wrote: > Well you have to look at how long other "designer" disease have been > around. Here are a few, alhiemers, als, parkinsons, ms, lupus, autism, > just to name a few. > Kurt > */Marshall Dudley /* wrote: > > Kurt Milkowski wrote: > > How long do you think lyme has been around? It's not a "new" > disease, > > been around for a long time. Just became named recently. > From what I have been able to determine it was "designed" in the > early > to mid 80's, then released to the wild near the naval base's > biological > warefare research center around Lyme around 1986 or so. > > Marshall > > > > */Marshall Dudley /* wrote: > > > > Kurt Milkowski wrote: > > > Hey Jess, > > > > > > Most likely the mmr vaccine would be the likely culprit. This is > > the > > > one that seems to be causing autism, which is lyme under another > > name. > > How can you arrive at that conclusion? Autism predates Lyme by a > > century or more. > > > > Marshall > > > > > > Kurt > > > > > > */jessie70 /* wrote: > > > > > > Kurt, you got lyme disease from which vaccine? Thanks, Jess > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > *From:* Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] > > > *Sent:* Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:31 PM > > > *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com > > > *Subject:* Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue > > > > > > Hey Kathryn, > > > > > > No problem. Yep the mycoplasma is used alot in bio-weapons. > > > Check into lyme disease, thats what I have, got it from a > > > vaccine. Lots of folks with lyme suffer from cfs and fibro. > > > > > > Kurt > > > > > > */Clayton Family /* wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for posting this whole series. It is interesting > > > reading. The > > > chronic fatigue part stood out for me. > > > > > > "Brucella mycoplasma was probably responsible for chronic > > > fatigue > > > syndrome and fibromyalgia as well." > > > > > > It is known that fungal toxins can cause chronic fatigue, > > > and it may > > > well be that there are many other kinds of toxins and > > > infections > > > involved too. I read somewhere about other mycoplasma > > > infections being > > > implicated in asthma, and maybe other immune related > > > conditions. Asthma > > > can be caused by Valley Fever, which is an endemic fungi > > > residing in > > > the strata in the western states. > > > > > > I took antifungals for 18 months to rid myself of an > > > entrenched fungal > > > infection: it seemed to work, yet when I started CS, I > > > began having die > > > off rxns, and other rxns which were the same as what I get > > > when exposed > > > to toxins. Therefore, maybe the CS also releases cellular > > > toxins in > > > some way. In any case, I had some other kind of infection > > > going on that > > > the antifungals were not touching: not fungal, but > > > something else, and
Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue / NIACIN
On 10/18/2007, Nenah Sylver (nenahsyl...@cox.net) wrote: 6 grams of Niacin to help the circulation of these things to the joints. If you want to try this start very small on the niacin as the flush can be severe until you build up a resistance. I actually like the flush... :) Also, there are two forms of niacin... the one that gives you the flush is called just niacin, and is more for opening up the capillaries closer to the surface of the skin (this is why it causes the 'flush'). Niacinamide, on the other hand, is the kind referred to that does not cause flushing. It is more for opening up the INTERNAL capillaries and vessels. When you take too much of this kind, you can get a kind of creepy-crawly feeling - this is because it is causing kind of an 'internal' flush... Niacin/niacinamide is a very powerful detox tool, and is used in the 'Clear' detox program created by L. Ron Hubbard. This is is a very powerful detox program, regardless of the fact that he also created the scientology cult. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue / NIACIN
and 6 grams of Niacin to help the circulation of these things to the joints. If you want to try this start very small on the niacin as the flush can be severe until you build up a resistance. And of course I just noticed AFTER I sent that that Nenah did a much better job job saying the same thing and in much more detail. Nenah - I keep telling myself I need to order your book - so I just did... :) Thanks for the nudge! -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue / NIACIN
Nenah: Glad to have you back! I well know the power of Niacin, the first time I used it I took a 500 mg tablet and waited about a half an hour for the flush,it didn't come so I took another one. I turned bright red all over( not like a swim suit) and the slightest movement made me feel like I was rolling in fiberglass insulation. My heart rate came up until it seemed close to that of a jackhammer. That lasted for 12 hours,so that is why I always say to start small and work up. Now I take 3 grams and get a mild flush which is my goal. The niacin has rid me of all spider veins and turned my numb right foot back to normal for a 20 year old. I'm 72. Sounds to me like Hubbard may be full of it! Dave Nenah Sylver wrote: - Original Message - From: "Dave" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 11:17 AM Subject: Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue ...I never felt right for 42 years, Then I diagnosed my problem myself with the help of the Internet and cured it with CS in three days. Chronic Fatigue, Pain and Arthritis were the main problems (as well as brain fog) and I'm sure they would have called it one of those if given the chance. It even went so far that they wanted to remove the cartilage from my affected joints. After whipping the Lyme I cured the arthritis with CMO ,Glucosamine, Condroitin along with 6 grams a day of vitamin C and equal amount of L-Lysine and 6 grams of Niacin to help the circulation of these things to the joints. If you want to try this start very small on the niacin as the flush can be severe until you build up a resistance. Dave = Hi Dave. Glad to hear that you finally healed yourself. What a story! You mentioned building up a resistance to niacin so after a while you don't flush from it. You may not know that although this is a common perception of many, there are other factors involved. I thought I'd share with you a tidbit about niacin from my book on sauna therapy, ==beginning excerpt== Niacin (also called nicotinic acid or Vitamin B-3) is known as the "flushing" vitamin because it causes the skin to redden or become flushed due to capillary enlargement and increased blood flow. It also makes the skin feel itchy and prickly. If people take high enough doses of B-3, they sometimes also feel nauseated, dizzy, disoriented, and even mentally unstable and volatile. For these reasons, niacinamide -- a close relative chemically to niacin that does not cause skin flush or other symptoms -- has become a popular substitute. However, it turns out that this "flushing" property unique to niacin is not only crucial to the detoxification process, but indicates that a detoxification process is actually occurring. Hubbard's research on niacin, begun in 1950, explains how this detox process works. In Clear Body, Clear Mind: The Effective Purification Program, he wrote: Odd manifestations occurred when this vitamin [niacin] was administered to individuals. Its most startling effect was that it would turn on, in a red flush, a sunburn on the person's body in an exact pattern of a bathing suit! These were very neat patterns. The bathing suit outline was unmistakable. What kind of "educated vitamin" was this that caused bodies to turn on a flush exactly like a previous sunburn, showing the exact pattern of a bathing suit outline? Could it be, Hubbard wondered, that niacin in itself does not cause a flush, but instead causes the body to start discharging old waste materials that had been stored in the fatty tissue? What if these people were simply recovering from a prior case of sun poisoning, acquired from too much sunbathing while in a swim suit? The subjects in this research program took carefully controlled dosages of niacin. At a 200 mg. (milligram) dose, the "sunburnlike" flushes eventually disappeared, at which point the dose was increased to 500 mg. At a 500 mg. dose, the flushes recurred, but with less intensity, at which point the dose was increased to 1000 mg. (which equals one gram). At a 1000 mg. dose, there was a small reaction for several days, at which point the dose was increased, and so on. Finally, at a 2000 mg. dose, Hubbard reported, there were no more niacin flush "side" effects. "The person would feel fine, his 'sunburn' would be gone, and he would experience no more flush from the niacin." Both British and American pharmacopoeia agencies, Hubbard also pointed out, "advertised" that the niacin flush -- presumably an intrinsic characteristic of the vitamin -- is inherently negative to the body, and thus "toxic" in large amounts. "But if niacin was toxic," the author asked, "how was it that the more you 'overdosed' [on] it the soone
Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue-Dave
I make 20 ppm. the stuff I was buying before getting my generator was
10 ppm.
Dave
Dianne France wrote:
Dave
What strength CS did you use?
Dianne
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*From:* Clayton Family <mailto:clay...@skypoint.com>
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, October 18, 2007 12:44 PM
*Subject:* Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue-Dave
Thanks. Did you have any adverse reactions to that amount of cs?
Like
herks, or something else? -Kathryn
On Oct 17, 2007, at 7:54 PM, Dave wrote:
> I took 6 ounces every half hour of awake time for three days
and it
> broke like a fever in the middle of the night.
>
> I've had almost four years of health and energy like a twenty
year old
> ( I was 68 at the time) Now I'm getting tired a lot so don't
know if
> it is coming back or not. No other symptoms.
> I have been taking MMS and seeing some improvement .
> Dave
>
> Clayton Family wrote:
>
>> Now this is useful information, thanks. How much did you take
to get
>> it under control, and did it go underground, or get killed off?
>>
>> Kathryn
>>
>> On Oct 17, 2007, at 1:17 PM, Dave wrote:
>>
>>> I think that is when they discovered it ( named it) not when it
>>> began, before that they called it whatever it seemed to mimic, as
>>> Lyme does present a number of maladies. When they had me in
the hos
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Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue-Dave
Yes but compared to what I was going through with the Lyme I didn't give a damn if it killed me. So when the herx started I just ignored it. I had already been through a couple of pint bottles and thought it was another scam so I jumped right in with both feet and when the Herx hit I was thankful for it because i then new it was actually doing something. Dave Clayton Family wrote: Thanks. Did you have any adverse reactions to that amount of cs? Like herks, or something else? -Kathryn On Oct 17, 2007, at 7:54 PM, Dave wrote: I took 6 ounces every half hour of awake time for three days and it broke like a fever in the middle of the night. I've had almost four years of health and energy like a twenty year old ( I was 68 at the time) Now I'm getting tired a lot so don't know if it is coming back or not. No other symptoms. I have been taking MMS and seeing some improvement . Dave Clayton Family wrote: Now this is useful information, thanks. How much did you take to get it under control, and did it go underground, or get killed off? Kathryn On Oct 17, 2007, at 1:17 PM, Dave wrote: I think that is when they discovered it ( named it) not when it began, before that they called it whatever it seemed to mimic, as Lyme does present a number of maladies. When they had me in the hos -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue
The pathogen is Borrelia burgdorferi and all of its friends. The aspartame and mercury are food for the bugs. Yes lyme has been around for a long time, they just keep making it better all the time. Keeps us confused that way. In a recent study 100 out of 100 alzhiemers patients tested postive for Bb post mortum, very intersting. Kurt Marshall Dudley wrote: I used the wrong word. I meant weapnoized for the lyme. Lyme existed long before it was apparently weaponized, but apparently as a much less virulent strain. The present epidemic seems to have developed from a strain that appeared near Lyme in the 70's. Do you have anything to support that the other diseases you listed are designer? I know that several can be caused by neurotoxins, such as aspertame and mercury, but as a designer disease, I would think a pathogen would be required. Marshall Kurt Milkowski wrote: > Well you have to look at how long other "designer" disease have been > around. Here are a few, alhiemers, als, parkinsons, ms, lupus, autism, > just to name a few. > Kurt > */Marshall Dudley /* wrote: > > Kurt Milkowski wrote: > > How long do you think lyme has been around? It's not a "new" > disease, > > been around for a long time. Just became named recently. > From what I have been able to determine it was "designed" in the > early > to mid 80's, then released to the wild near the naval base's > biological > warefare research center around Lyme around 1986 or so. > > Marshall > > > > */Marshall Dudley /* wrote: > > > > Kurt Milkowski wrote: > > > Hey Jess, > > > > > > Most likely the mmr vaccine would be the likely culprit. This is > > the > > > one that seems to be causing autism, which is lyme under another > > name. > > How can you arrive at that conclusion? Autism predates Lyme by a > > century or more. > > > > Marshall > > > > > > Kurt > > > > > > */jessie70 /* wrote: > > > > > > Kurt, you got lyme disease from which vaccine? Thanks, Jess > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > *From:* Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] > > > *Sent:* Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:31 PM > > > *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com > > > *Subject:* Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue > > > > > > Hey Kathryn, > > > > > > No problem. Yep the mycoplasma is used alot in bio-weapons. > > > Check into lyme disease, thats what I have, got it from a > > > vaccine. Lots of folks with lyme suffer from cfs and fibro. > > > > > > Kurt > > > > > > */Clayton Family /* wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for posting this whole series. It is interesting > > > reading. The > > > chronic fatigue part stood out for me. > > > > > > "Brucella mycoplasma was probably responsible for chronic > > > fatigue > > > syndrome and fibromyalgia as well." > > > > > > It is known that fungal toxins can cause chronic fatigue, > > > and it may > > > well be that there are many other kinds of toxins and > > > infections > > > involved too. I read somewhere about other mycoplasma > > > infections being > > > implicated in asthma, and maybe other immune related > > > conditions. Asthma > > > can be caused by Valley Fever, which is an endemic fungi > > > residing in > > > the strata in the western states. > > > > > > I took antifungals for 18 months to rid myself of an > > > entrenched fungal > > > infection: it seemed to work, yet when I started CS, I > > > began having die > > > off rxns, and other rxns which were the same as what I get > > > when exposed > > > to toxins. Therefore, maybe the CS also releases cellular > > > toxins in > > > some way. In any case, I had some other kind of infection > > > going on that > > > the antifungals were not touching: not fungal, but > > > something else, and > > > the silver was doing quite a bit. > > > > > > fungal toxins cause neurological damage- is brucella > > > fungal, I wonder? > > > Those fungal toxins are used in biological weapons. > > > > > > And the bit about genetically engineered vacs- have you > > > seen "The > > > Future of Food" ? it is about genetically engineered food, > > > and it seems > > > like the film understates the problem. There are toxins > > > and poisons > > > deliberatel
Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue / NIACIN
- Original Message - From: "Dave" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 11:17 AM Subject: Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue ...I never felt right for 42 years, Then I diagnosed my problem myself with the help of the Internet and cured it with CS in three days. Chronic Fatigue, Pain and Arthritis were the main problems (as well as brain fog) and I'm sure they would have called it one of those if given the chance. It even went so far that they wanted to remove the cartilage from my affected joints. After whipping the Lyme I cured the arthritis with CMO ,Glucosamine, Condroitin along with 6 grams a day of vitamin C and equal amount of L-Lysine and 6 grams of Niacin to help the circulation of these things to the joints. If you want to try this start very small on the niacin as the flush can be severe until you build up a resistance. Dave = Hi Dave. Glad to hear that you finally healed yourself. What a story! You mentioned building up a resistance to niacin so after a while you don't flush from it. You may not know that although this is a common perception of many, there are other factors involved. I thought I'd share with you a tidbit about niacin from my book on sauna therapy, ==beginning excerpt== Niacin (also called nicotinic acid or Vitamin B-3) is known as the "flushing" vitamin because it causes the skin to redden or become flushed due to capillary enlargement and increased blood flow. It also makes the skin feel itchy and prickly. If people take high enough doses of B-3, they sometimes also feel nauseated, dizzy, disoriented, and even mentally unstable and volatile. For these reasons, niacinamide -- a close relative chemically to niacin that does not cause skin flush or other symptoms -- has become a popular substitute. However, it turns out that this "flushing" property unique to niacin is not only crucial to the detoxification process, but indicates that a detoxification process is actually occurring. Hubbard's research on niacin, begun in 1950, explains how this detox process works. In Clear Body, Clear Mind: The Effective Purification Program, he wrote: Odd manifestations occurred when this vitamin [niacin] was administered to individuals. Its most startling effect was that it would turn on, in a red flush, a sunburn on the person's body in an exact pattern of a bathing suit! These were very neat patterns. The bathing suit outline was unmistakable. What kind of "educated vitamin" was this that caused bodies to turn on a flush exactly like a previous sunburn, showing the exact pattern of a bathing suit outline? Could it be, Hubbard wondered, that niacin in itself does not cause a flush, but instead causes the body to start discharging old waste materials that had been stored in the fatty tissue? What if these people were simply recovering from a prior case of sun poisoning, acquired from too much sunbathing while in a swim suit? The subjects in this research program took carefully controlled dosages of niacin. At a 200 mg. (milligram) dose, the "sunburnlike" flushes eventually disappeared, at which point the dose was increased to 500 mg. At a 500 mg. dose, the flushes recurred, but with less intensity, at which point the dose was increased to 1000 mg. (which equals one gram). At a 1000 mg. dose, there was a small reaction for several days, at which point the dose was increased, and so on. Finally, at a 2000 mg. dose, Hubbard reported, there were no more niacin flush "side" effects. "The person would feel fine, his 'sunburn' would be gone, and he would experience no more flush from the niacin." Both British and American pharmacopoeia agencies, Hubbard also pointed out, "advertised" that the niacin flush -- presumably an intrinsic characteristic of the vitamin -- is inherently negative to the body, and thus "toxic" in large amounts. "But if niacin was toxic," the author asked, "how was it that the more you 'overdosed' [on] it the sooner you no longer experienced the sunburnlike flushes from it?" Those in orthodox medicine circles hypothesized that this was an example of the body's adjusting to unfavorable conditions by repressing the symptoms, and thus appearing asymptomatic. But this hypothesis was completely unsatisfactory, in view of the bathing suit outline on the test subjects! Nevertheless, Hubbard's revealing evidence was mostly ignored by mainstream doctors and scientists. They didn't consider Hubbard qualified to do research, regardless of how carefully he designed his experiments or how coherent and rational his observations were. Six years later, Hubbard had the opportunity to gather even more compelling data when working wi
Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue-Dave
Dave What strength CS did you use? Dianne - Original Message - From: Clayton Family<mailto:clay...@skypoint.com> To: silver-list@eskimo.com<mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 12:44 PM Subject: Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue-Dave Thanks. Did you have any adverse reactions to that amount of cs? Like herks, or something else? -Kathryn On Oct 17, 2007, at 7:54 PM, Dave wrote: > I took 6 ounces every half hour of awake time for three days and it > broke like a fever in the middle of the night. > > I've had almost four years of health and energy like a twenty year old > ( I was 68 at the time) Now I'm getting tired a lot so don't know if > it is coming back or not. No other symptoms. > I have been taking MMS and seeing some improvement . > Dave > > Clayton Family wrote: > >> Now this is useful information, thanks. How much did you take to get >> it under control, and did it go underground, or get killed off? >> >> Kathryn >> >> On Oct 17, 2007, at 1:17 PM, Dave wrote: >> >>> I think that is when they discovered it ( named it) not when it >>> began, before that they called it whatever it seemed to mimic, as >>> Lyme does present a number of maladies. When they had me in the hos -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org<http://silverlist.org/> To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com<mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com> Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com<mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com>>
Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue-Dave
Thanks. Did you have any adverse reactions to that amount of cs? Like herks, or something else? -Kathryn On Oct 17, 2007, at 7:54 PM, Dave wrote: I took 6 ounces every half hour of awake time for three days and it broke like a fever in the middle of the night. I've had almost four years of health and energy like a twenty year old ( I was 68 at the time) Now I'm getting tired a lot so don't know if it is coming back or not. No other symptoms. I have been taking MMS and seeing some improvement . Dave Clayton Family wrote: Now this is useful information, thanks. How much did you take to get it under control, and did it go underground, or get killed off? Kathryn On Oct 17, 2007, at 1:17 PM, Dave wrote: I think that is when they discovered it ( named it) not when it began, before that they called it whatever it seemed to mimic, as Lyme does present a number of maladies. When they had me in the hos -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue
I'm not Kurt, but the T2 toxin of stachybotris is used, and it is a very potent neurotoxin. It is listed in the gov't research as a potent weapon, but then when you get to the CDC, they say the same exact toxin is benign in a household setting. It can cause, just from a household infestation, chronic fatigue, universal reactivity, heart disease, and maybe many many more. The concentrated weapon version is probably lethal. On Oct 18, 2007, at 9:56 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote: I used the wrong word. I meant weapnoized for the lyme. Lyme existed long before it was apparently weaponized, but apparently as a much less virulent strain. The present epidemic seems to have developed from a strain that appeared near Lyme in the 70's. Do you have anything to support that the other diseases you listed are designer? I know that several can be caused by neurotoxins, such as aspertame and mercury, but as a designer disease, I would think a pathogen would be required. Marshall Kurt Milkowski wrote: Well you have to look at how long other "designer" disease have been around. Here are a few, alhiemers, als, parkinsons, ms, lupus, autism, just to name a -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue
I used the wrong word. I meant weapnoized for the lyme. Lyme existed long before it was apparently weaponized, but apparently as a much less virulent strain. The present epidemic seems to have developed from a strain that appeared near Lyme in the 70's. Do you have anything to support that the other diseases you listed are designer? I know that several can be caused by neurotoxins, such as aspertame and mercury, but as a designer disease, I would think a pathogen would be required. Marshall Kurt Milkowski wrote: Well you have to look at how long other "designer" disease have been around. Here are a few, alhiemers, als, parkinsons, ms, lupus, autism, just to name a few. Kurt */Marshall Dudley /* wrote: Kurt Milkowski wrote: > How long do you think lyme has been around? It's not a "new" disease, > been around for a long time. Just became named recently. From what I have been able to determine it was "designed" in the early to mid 80's, then released to the wild near the naval base's biological warefare research center around Lyme around 1986 or so. Marshall > > */Marshall Dudley /* wrote: > > Kurt Milkowski wrote: > > Hey Jess, > > > > Most likely the mmr vaccine would be the likely culprit. This is > the > > one that seems to be causing autism, which is lyme under another > name. > How can you arrive at that conclusion? Autism predates Lyme by a > century or more. > > Marshall > > > > Kurt > > > > */jessie70 /* wrote: > > > > Kurt, you got lyme disease from which vaccine? Thanks, Jess > > > > -Original Message- > > *From:* Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] > > *Sent:* Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:31 PM > > *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com > > *Subject:* Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue > > > > Hey Kathryn, > > > > No problem. Yep the mycoplasma is used alot in bio-weapons. > > Check into lyme disease, thats what I have, got it from a > > vaccine. Lots of folks with lyme suffer from cfs and fibro. > > > > Kurt > > > > */Clayton Family /* wrote: > > > > Thanks for posting this whole series. It is interesting > > reading. The > > chronic fatigue part stood out for me. > > > > "Brucella mycoplasma was probably responsible for chronic > > fatigue > > syndrome and fibromyalgia as well." > > > > It is known that fungal toxins can cause chronic fatigue, > > and it may > > well be that there are many other kinds of toxins and > > infections > > involved too. I read somewhere about other mycoplasma > > infections being > > implicated in asthma, and maybe other immune related > > conditions. Asthma > > can be caused by Valley Fever, which is an endemic fungi > > residing in > > the strata in the western states. > > > > I took antifungals for 18 months to rid myself of an > > entrenched fungal > > infection: it seemed to work, yet when I started CS, I > > began having die > > off rxns, and other rxns which were the same as what I get > > when exposed > > to toxins. Therefore, maybe the CS also releases cellular > > toxins in > > some way. In any case, I had some other kind of infection > > going on that > > the antifungals were not touching: not fungal, but > > something else, and > > the silver was doing quite a bit. > > > > fungal toxins cause neurological damage- is brucella > > fungal, I wonder? > > Those fungal toxins are used in biological weapons. > > > > And the bit about genetically engineered vacs- have you > > seen "The > > Future of Food" ? it is about genetically engineered food, > > and it seems > > like the film understates the problem. There are toxins > > and poisons > > deliberately sequenced into the genes of food, so it > > becomes poisonous > > at a low level. Organic is alot better, locally grown > > seems like the > > best idea. > > > > Kathryn > > > > On Oct 13, 2007, at 6:23 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: > > > > >> Kurt Milkowski wrote: [snipped] > > >> > In October 2004, Dmtry Lvov, head of the Russian > > Virology Ins
RE: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue[Jess]
Hey Jess, Thats the one that causes normal kids to turn into autistic kids after being administered. jessie70 wrote: Kurt, How do you know you get lyme from the measles vaccine? Thanks again, Jess - -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue-Dave
I took 6 ounces every half hour of awake time for three days and it broke like a fever in the middle of the night. I've had almost four years of health and energy like a twenty year old ( I was 68 at the time) Now I'm getting tired a lot so don't know if it is coming back or not. No other symptoms. I have been taking MMS and seeing some improvement . Dave Clayton Family wrote: Now this is useful information, thanks. How much did you take to get it under control, and did it go underground, or get killed off? Kathryn On Oct 17, 2007, at 1:17 PM, Dave wrote: I think that is when they discovered it ( named it) not when it began, before that they called it whatever it seemed to mimic, as Lyme does present a number of maladies. When they had me in the hospital in Germany in 1957 they ran test after test and couldn't figure out what was happening. I was one of ten men that came down with it. Some had the rash and some didn't. We all had high fever and severe stomach cramps. After a week we were sent back to work. I never felt right for 42 years, Then I diagnosed my problem myself with the help of the Internet and cured it with CS in three days. Chronic Fatigue, Pain and Arthritis were the main problems (as well as brain fog) and I'm sure they would have called it one of those if given the chance. It even went so far that they wanted to remove the cartilage from my affected joints. After whipping the Lyme I cured the arthritis with CMO ,Glucosamine, Condroitin along with 6 grams a day of vitamin C and equal amount of L-Lysine and 6 grams of Niacin to help the circulation of these things to the joints. If you want to try this start very small on the niacin as the flush can be severe until you build up a resistance. Dave Marshall Dudley wrote: Dave wrote: That makes me wonder how I got it in 1957. The first case dates back to 1883, but the "modern lyme" history begun in 1975. I was off by 10 years. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue-Dave
Now this is useful information, thanks. How much did you take to get it under control, and did it go underground, or get killed off? Kathryn On Oct 17, 2007, at 1:17 PM, Dave wrote: I think that is when they discovered it ( named it) not when it began, before that they called it whatever it seemed to mimic, as Lyme does present a number of maladies. When they had me in the hospital in Germany in 1957 they ran test after test and couldn't figure out what was happening. I was one of ten men that came down with it. Some had the rash and some didn't. We all had high fever and severe stomach cramps. After a week we were sent back to work. I never felt right for 42 years, Then I diagnosed my problem myself with the help of the Internet and cured it with CS in three days. Chronic Fatigue, Pain and Arthritis were the main problems (as well as brain fog) and I'm sure they would have called it one of those if given the chance. It even went so far that they wanted to remove the cartilage from my affected joints. After whipping the Lyme I cured the arthritis with CMO ,Glucosamine, Condroitin along with 6 grams a day of vitamin C and equal amount of L-Lysine and 6 grams of Niacin to help the circulation of these things to the joints. If you want to try this start very small on the niacin as the flush can be severe until you build up a resistance. Dave Marshall Dudley wrote: Dave wrote: That makes me wonder how I got it in 1957. The first case dates back to 1883, but the "modern lyme" history begun in 1975. I was off by 10 years. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue[Dave]
Hey Dave, You just answered your own question!! You were in the army. You guys were among the first to recieve the latest tests. The needles that were stuck in your ass is where you got the disease. Kurt Dave wrote: I had a bunch of them when I joined the Army but not before. That was in 1955. Later they tried to give me a booster shot for flu and I was almost court martialed for refusing. The first shot made me so sick I wasn't going back for more even if it meant the stockade. They didn't really back off just penciled in that I had received it. My mother had infantile paralysis but that was 30 years before I was born. Don't really know what shots she might have had but my father and mother lived far up in the mountains and had little other human contact. Does that give you any ideas? Dave Kurt Milkowski wrote: Were either you or your parents vaccinated Dave? Kurt Dave wrote: That makes me wonder how I got it in 1957. Dave Marshall Dudley wrote: > Kurt Milkowski wrote: > >> How long do you think lyme has been around? It's not a "new" disease, >> been around for a long time. Just became named recently. > > From what I have been able to determine it was "designed" in the early > to mid 80's, then released to the wild near the naval base's > biological warefare research center around Lyme around 1986 or so. > > Marshall > >> >> */Marshall Dudley /* wrote: >> >> Kurt Milkowski wrote: >> > Hey Jess, >> > >> > Most likely the mmr vaccine would be the likely culprit. This is >> the >> > one that seems to be causing autism, which is lyme under another >> name. >> How can you arrive at that conclusion? Autism predates Lyme by a >> century or more. >> >> Marshall >> > >> > Kurt >> > >> > */jessie70 /* wrote: >> > >> > Kurt, you got lyme disease from which vaccine? Thanks, Jess >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > *From:* Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] >> > *Sent:* Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:31 PM >> > *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com >> > *Subject:* Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue >> > >> > Hey Kathryn, >> > >> > No problem. Yep the mycoplasma is used alot in bio-weapons. >> > Check into lyme disease, thats what I have, got it from a >> > vaccine. Lots of folks with lyme suffer from cfs and fibro. >> > >> > Kurt >> > >> > */Clayton Family /* wrote: >> > >> > Thanks for posting this whole series. It is interesting >> > reading. The >> > chronic fatigue part stood out for me. >> > >> > "Brucella mycoplasma was probably responsible for chronic >> > fatigue >> > syndrome and fibromyalgia as well." >> > >> > It is known that fungal toxins can cause chronic fatigue, >> > and it may >> > well be that there are many other kinds of toxins and >> > infections >> > involved too. I read somewhere about other mycoplasma >> > infections being >> > implicated in asthma, and maybe other immune related >> > conditions. Asthma >> > can be caused by Valley Fever, which is an endemic fungi >> > residing in >> > the strata in the western states. >> > >> > I took antifungals for 18 months to rid myself of an >> > entrenched fungal >> > infection: it seemed to work, yet when I started CS, I >> > began having die >> > off rxns, and other rxns which were the same as what I get >> > when exposed >> > to toxins. Therefore, maybe the CS also releases cellular >> > toxins in >> > some way. In any case, I had some other kind of infection >> > going on that >> > the antifungals were not touching: not fungal, but >> > something else, and >> > the silver was doing quite a bit. >> > >> > fungal toxins cause neurological damage- is brucella >> > fungal, I wonder? >> > Those fungal toxins are used in biological weapons. >> > >> > And the bit about genetically engineered vacs- have you >> > seen "The >> > Future of Food" ? it is about genetically engineered food, >> > and it seems >> > like the film understates the problem. There are toxins >> > and poisons >> > deliberately sequenced into the genes of food, so it >> > becomes poisonous >> > at a low level. Organic is alot better, locally grown >> > seems like the >> > best ide
Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue
Well you have to look at how long other "designer" disease have been around. Here are a few, alhiemers, als, parkinsons, ms, lupus, autism, just to name a few. Kurt Marshall Dudley wrote: Kurt Milkowski wrote: > How long do you think lyme has been around? It's not a "new" disease, > been around for a long time. Just became named recently. >From what I have been able to determine it was "designed" in the early to mid 80's, then released to the wild near the naval base's biological warefare research center around Lyme around 1986 or so. Marshall > > */Marshall Dudley /* wrote: > > Kurt Milkowski wrote: > > Hey Jess, > > > > Most likely the mmr vaccine would be the likely culprit. This is > the > > one that seems to be causing autism, which is lyme under another > name. > How can you arrive at that conclusion? Autism predates Lyme by a > century or more. > > Marshall > > > > Kurt > > > > */jessie70 /* wrote: > > > > Kurt, you got lyme disease from which vaccine? Thanks, Jess > > > > -Original Message- > > *From:* Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] > > *Sent:* Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:31 PM > > *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com > > *Subject:* Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue > > > > Hey Kathryn, > > > > No problem. Yep the mycoplasma is used alot in bio-weapons. > > Check into lyme disease, thats what I have, got it from a > > vaccine. Lots of folks with lyme suffer from cfs and fibro. > > > > Kurt > > > > */Clayton Family /* wrote: > > > > Thanks for posting this whole series. It is interesting > > reading. The > > chronic fatigue part stood out for me. > > > > "Brucella mycoplasma was probably responsible for chronic > > fatigue > > syndrome and fibromyalgia as well." > > > > It is known that fungal toxins can cause chronic fatigue, > > and it may > > well be that there are many other kinds of toxins and > > infections > > involved too. I read somewhere about other mycoplasma > > infections being > > implicated in asthma, and maybe other immune related > > conditions. Asthma > > can be caused by Valley Fever, which is an endemic fungi > > residing in > > the strata in the western states. > > > > I took antifungals for 18 months to rid myself of an > > entrenched fungal > > infection: it seemed to work, yet when I started CS, I > > began having die > > off rxns, and other rxns which were the same as what I get > > when exposed > > to toxins. Therefore, maybe the CS also releases cellular > > toxins in > > some way. In any case, I had some other kind of infection > > going on that > > the antifungals were not touching: not fungal, but > > something else, and > > the silver was doing quite a bit. > > > > fungal toxins cause neurological damage- is brucella > > fungal, I wonder? > > Those fungal toxins are used in biological weapons. > > > > And the bit about genetically engineered vacs- have you > > seen "The > > Future of Food" ? it is about genetically engineered food, > > and it seems > > like the film understates the problem. There are toxins > > and poisons > > deliberately sequenced into the genes of food, so it > > becomes poisonous > > at a low level. Organic is alot better, locally grown > > seems like the > > best idea. > > > > Kathryn > > > > On Oct 13, 2007, at 6:23 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: > > > > >> Kurt Milkowski wrote: [snipped] > > >> > In October 2004, Dmtry Lvov, head of the Russian > > Virology Institute > > >> > declared that up to one billion people around the > > world could die > > >> > during the next pandemic. It would appear that the > > human herd is > > >> about > > >> > to be culled in spectacular fashion. For whatever > > reasons, the dead > > >> > microbiologists wouldn't go along with the program. > > > > > > -- > > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing > > Colloidal Silver. > > > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: > > http://silverlist.org > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > Address Off-Topic messages to: > > silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently > > down... > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > > > > > >
Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue[Dave]
I had a bunch of them when I joined the Army but not before. That was
in 1955. Later they tried to give me a booster shot for flu and I was
almost court martialed for refusing. The first shot made me so sick I
wasn't going back for more even if it meant the stockade. They didn't
really back off just penciled in that I had received it.
My mother had infantile paralysis but that was 30 years before I was
born. Don't really know what shots she might have had but my father and
mother lived far up in the mountains and had little other human contact.
Does that give you any ideas?
Dave
Kurt Milkowski wrote:
Were either you or your parents vaccinated Dave?
Kurt
*/Dave /* wrote:
That makes me wonder how I got it in 1957.
Dave
Marshall Dudley wrote:
> Kurt Milkowski wrote:
>
>> How long do you think lyme has been around? It's not a "new"
disease,
>> been around for a long time. Just became named recently.
>
> From what I have been able to determine it was "designed" in the
early
> to mid 80's, then released to the wild near the naval base's
> biological warefare research center around Lyme around 1986 or so.
>
> Marshall
>
>>
>> */Marshall Dudley /* wrote:
>>
>> Kurt Milkowski wrote:
>> > Hey Jess,
>> >
>> > Most likely the mmr vaccine would be the likely culprit. This is
>> the
>> > one that seems to be causing autism, which is lyme under another
>> name.
>> How can you arrive at that conclusion? Autism predates Lyme by a
>> century or more.
>>
>> Marshall
>> >
>> > Kurt
>> >
>> > */jessie70 /* wrote:
>> >
>> > Kurt, you got lyme disease from which vaccine? Thanks, Jess
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > *From:* Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net]
>> > *Sent:* Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:31 PM
>> > *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
>> > *Subject:* Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue
>> >
>> > Hey Kathryn,
>> >
>> > No problem. Yep the mycoplasma is used alot in bio-weapons.
>> > Check into lyme disease, thats what I have, got it from a
>> > vaccine. Lots of folks with lyme suffer from cfs and fibro.
>> >
>> > Kurt
>> >
>> > */Clayton Family /* wrote:
>> >
>> > Thanks for posting this whole series. It is interesting
>> > reading. The
>> > chronic fatigue part stood out for me.
>> >
>> > "Brucella mycoplasma was probably responsible for chronic
>> > fatigue
>> > syndrome and fibromyalgia as well."
>> >
>> > It is known that fungal toxins can cause chronic fatigue,
>> > and it may
>> > well be that there are many other kinds of toxins and
>> > infections
>> > involved too. I read somewhere about other mycoplasma
>> > infections being
>> > implicated in asthma, and maybe other immune related
>> > conditions. Asthma
>> > can be caused by Valley Fever, which is an endemic fungi
>> > residing in
>> > the strata in the western states.
>> >
>> > I took antifungals for 18 months to rid myself of an
>> > entrenched fungal
>> > infection: it seemed to work, yet when I started CS, I
>> > began having die
>> > off rxns, and other rxns which were the same as what I get
>> > when exposed
>> > to toxins. Therefore, maybe the CS also releases cellular
>> > toxins in
>> > some way. In any case, I had some other kind of infection
>> > going on that
>> > the antifungals were not touching: not fungal, but
>> > something else, and
>> > the silver was doing quite a bit.
>> >
>> > fungal toxins cause neurological damage- is brucella
>> > fungal, I wonder?
>> > Those fungal toxins are used in biological weapons.
>> >
>> > And the bit about genetically engineered vacs- have you
>> > seen "The
>> > Future of Food" ? it is about genetically engineered food,
>> > and it seems
>> > like the film understates the problem. There are toxins
>> > and poisons
>> > deliberately sequenced into the genes of food, s
Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue[Dave]
Were either you or your parents vaccinated Dave? Kurt Dave wrote: That makes me wonder how I got it in 1957. Dave Marshall Dudley wrote: > Kurt Milkowski wrote: > >> How long do you think lyme has been around? It's not a "new" disease, >> been around for a long time. Just became named recently. > > From what I have been able to determine it was "designed" in the early > to mid 80's, then released to the wild near the naval base's > biological warefare research center around Lyme around 1986 or so. > > Marshall > >> >> */Marshall Dudley /* wrote: >> >> Kurt Milkowski wrote: >> > Hey Jess, >> > >> > Most likely the mmr vaccine would be the likely culprit. This is >> the >> > one that seems to be causing autism, which is lyme under another >> name. >> How can you arrive at that conclusion? Autism predates Lyme by a >> century or more. >> >> Marshall >> > >> > Kurt >> > >> > */jessie70 /* wrote: >> > >> > Kurt, you got lyme disease from which vaccine? Thanks, Jess >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > *From:* Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] >> > *Sent:* Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:31 PM >> > *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com >> > *Subject:* Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue >> > >> > Hey Kathryn, >> > >> > No problem. Yep the mycoplasma is used alot in bio-weapons. >> > Check into lyme disease, thats what I have, got it from a >> > vaccine. Lots of folks with lyme suffer from cfs and fibro. >> > >> > Kurt >> > >> > */Clayton Family /* wrote: >> > >> > Thanks for posting this whole series. It is interesting >> > reading. The >> > chronic fatigue part stood out for me. >> > >> > "Brucella mycoplasma was probably responsible for chronic >> > fatigue >> > syndrome and fibromyalgia as well." >> > >> > It is known that fungal toxins can cause chronic fatigue, >> > and it may >> > well be that there are many other kinds of toxins and >> > infections >> > involved too. I read somewhere about other mycoplasma >> > infections being >> > implicated in asthma, and maybe other immune related >> > conditions. Asthma >> > can be caused by Valley Fever, which is an endemic fungi >> > residing in >> > the strata in the western states. >> > >> > I took antifungals for 18 months to rid myself of an >> > entrenched fungal >> > infection: it seemed to work, yet when I started CS, I >> > began having die >> > off rxns, and other rxns which were the same as what I get >> > when exposed >> > to toxins. Therefore, maybe the CS also releases cellular >> > toxins in >> > some way. In any case, I had some other kind of infection >> > going on that >> > the antifungals were not touching: not fungal, but >> > something else, and >> > the silver was doing quite a bit. >> > >> > fungal toxins cause neurological damage- is brucella >> > fungal, I wonder? >> > Those fungal toxins are used in biological weapons. >> > >> > And the bit about genetically engineered vacs- have you >> > seen "The >> > Future of Food" ? it is about genetically engineered food, >> > and it seems >> > like the film understates the problem. There are toxins >> > and poisons >> > deliberately sequenced into the genes of food, so it >> > becomes poisonous >> > at a low level. Organic is alot better, locally grown >> > seems like the >> > best idea. >> > >> > Kathryn >> > >> > On Oct 13, 2007, at 6:23 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: >> > >> > >> Kurt Milkowski wrote: [snipped] >> > >> > In October 2004, Dmtry Lvov, head of the Russian >> > Virology Institute >> > >> > declared that up to one billion people around the >> > world could die >> > >> > during the next pandemic. It would appear that the >> > human herd is >> > >> about >> > >> > to be culled in spectacular fashion. For whatever >> > reasons, the dead >> > >> > microbiologists wouldn't go along with the program. >> > >> > >> > -- >> > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing >> > Colloidal Silver. >> > >> > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: >> > http://silverlist.org >> > >> > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >> > >> > Address Off-Topic messages to: >> > silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >> > >> > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently >> > down... >> > >> > List maintainer: Mike Devour >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> > > >
RE: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue
Thats funny Dan, It didn't escape at all. It was deliberate, set out to test people. That of course is one of the later versions. The older versions have been around over a hundred years. They always find newer and better bugs to give us. Dan Nave wrote: The likes of you usually feel that it is an escaped biological warfare experiment escaped from a facility near Lyme Connecticut. Dan - From: Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 4:25 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue How long do you think lyme has been around? It's not a "new" disease, been around for a long time. Just became named recently. Marshall Dudley wrote: Kurt Milkowski wrote: > Hey Jess, > > Most likely the mmr vaccine would be the likely culprit. This is the > one that seems to be causing autism, which is lyme under another name. How can you arrive at that conclusion? Autism predates Lyme by a century or more. Marshall > > Kurt > > */jessie70 /* wrote: > > Kurt, you got lyme disease from which vaccine? Thanks, Jess > > -Original Message- > *From:* Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] > *Sent:* Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:31 PM > *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com > *Subject:* Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue > > Hey Kathryn, > > No problem. Yep the mycoplasma is used alot in bio-weapons. > Check into lyme disease, thats what I have, got it from a > vaccine. Lots of folks with lyme suffer from cfs and fibro. > > Kurt > > */Clayton Family /* wrote: > > Thanks for posting this whole series. It is interesting > reading. The > chronic fatigue part stood out for me. > > "Brucella mycoplasma was probably responsible for chronic > fatigue > syndrome and fibromyalgia as well." > > It is known that fungal toxins can cause chronic fatigue, > and it may > well be that there are many other kinds of toxins and > infections > involved too. I read somewhere about other mycoplasma > infections being > implicated in asthma, and maybe other immune related > conditions. Asthma > can be caused by Valley Fever, which is an endemic fungi > residing in > the strata in the western states. > > I took antifungals for 18 months to rid myself of an > entrenched fungal > infection: it seemed to work, yet when I started CS, I > began having die > off rxns, and other rxns which were the same as what I get > when exposed > to toxins. Therefore, maybe the CS also releases cellular > toxins in > some way. In any case, I had some other kind of infection > going on that > the antifungals were not touching: not fungal, but > something else, and > the silver was doing quite a bit. > > fungal toxins cause neurological damage- is brucella > fungal, I wonder? > Those fungal toxins are used in biological weapons. > > And the bit about genetically engineered vacs- have you > seen "The > Future of Food" ? it is about genetically engineered food, > and it seems > like the film understates the problem. There are toxins > and poisons > deliberately sequenced into the genes of food, so it > becomes poisonous > at a low level. Organic is alot better, locally grown > seems like the > best idea. > > Kathryn > > On Oct 13, 2007, at 6:23 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: > > >> Kurt Milkowski wrote: [snipped] > >> > In October 2004, Dmtry Lvov, head of the Russian > Virology Institute > >> > declared that up to one billion people around the > world could die > >> > during the next pandemic. It would appear that the > human herd is > >> about > >> > to be culled in spectacular fashion. For whatever > reasons, the dead > >> > microbiologists wouldn't go along with the program. > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing > Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: > http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: > silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently > down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > >
Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue
I think that is when they discovered it ( named it) not when it began, before that they called it whatever it seemed to mimic, as Lyme does present a number of maladies. When they had me in the hospital in Germany in 1957 they ran test after test and couldn't figure out what was happening. I was one of ten men that came down with it. Some had the rash and some didn't. We all had high fever and severe stomach cramps. After a week we were sent back to work. I never felt right for 42 years, Then I diagnosed my problem myself with the help of the Internet and cured it with CS in three days. Chronic Fatigue, Pain and Arthritis were the main problems (as well as brain fog) and I'm sure they would have called it one of those if given the chance. It even went so far that they wanted to remove the cartilage from my affected joints. After whipping the Lyme I cured the arthritis with CMO ,Glucosamine, Condroitin along with 6 grams a day of vitamin C and equal amount of L-Lysine and 6 grams of Niacin to help the circulation of these things to the joints. If you want to try this start very small on the niacin as the flush can be severe until you build up a resistance. Dave Marshall Dudley wrote: Dave wrote: That makes me wonder how I got it in 1957. The first case dates back to 1883, but the "modern lyme" history begun in 1975. I was off by 10 years. http://ftrsupplemental.blogspot.com/2007/02/history-of-lyme-disease-as-bioweapon.html The EIS and the “Discovery” of Lyme Modern Lyme history begins in 1975 when a mother in the town of Old Lyme, Connecticut reported the outbreak of a strange, multi-system disease. The town lies directly opposite the Plum Island biowarfare research lab where, according to former Justice official John Loftus, Nazi scientists brought to the US after WW2 may have test-dropped “poison ticks”. [vii] It should be noted that Loftus’ reputation for gathering accurate, hard-hitting information is strong – strong enough to bring down in disgrace the former Chancellor of Austria and Secretary-General of the UN Kurt Waldheim, after the latter’s wartime SS record was revealed. See also: http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2005/11/328067.html US Govt Admits Lyme Disease a Bioweapon Marshall Dave Marshall Dudley wrote: Kurt Milkowski wrote: How long do you think lyme has been around? It's not a "new" disease, been around for a long time. Just became named recently. From what I have been able to determine it was "designed" in the early to mid 80's, then released to the wild near the naval base's biological warefare research center around Lyme around 1986 or so. Marshall */Marshall Dudley /* wrote: Kurt Milkowski wrote: > Hey Jess, > > Most likely the mmr vaccine would be the likely culprit. This is the > one that seems to be causing autism, which is lyme under another name. How can you arrive at that conclusion? Autism predates Lyme by a century or more. Marshall > > Kurt > > */jessie70 /* wrote: > > Kurt, you got lyme disease from which vaccine? Thanks, Jess > > -Original Message- > *From:* Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] > *Sent:* Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:31 PM > *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com > *Subject:* Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue > > Hey Kathryn, > > No problem. Yep the mycoplasma is used alot in bio-weapons. > Check into lyme disease, thats what I have, got it from a > vaccine. Lots of folks with lyme suffer from cfs and fibro. > > Kurt > > */Clayton Family /* wrote: > > Thanks for posting this whole series. It is interesting > reading. The > chronic fatigue part stood out for me. > > "Brucella mycoplasma was probably responsible for chronic > fatigue > syndrome and fibromyalgia as well." > > It is known that fungal toxins can cause chronic fatigue, > and it may > well be that there are many other kinds of toxins and > infections > involved too. I read somewhere about other mycoplasma > infections being > implicated in asthma, and maybe other immune related > conditions. Asthma > can be caused by Valley Fever, which is an endemic fungi > residing in > the strata in the western states. > > I took antifungals for 18 months to rid myself of an > entrenched fungal > infection: it seemed to work, yet when I started CS, I > began having die > off rxns, and other rxns which were the same as what I get > when exposed > to toxins. Therefore, maybe the CS also releases cellular > toxins in > some way. In any case, I had some other kind of infection > going on that > the antifungals were not touching: not fungal, but > something else, and > the silver was doing quite a bit. > > fungal
RE: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue
The likes of you usually feel that it is an escaped biological warfare
experiment escaped from a facility near Lyme Connecticut.
Dan
From: Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 4:25 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue
How long do you think lyme has been around? It's not a "new" disease,
been around for a long time. Just became named recently.
Marshall Dudley wrote:
Kurt Milkowski wrote:
> Hey Jess,
>
> Most likely the mmr vaccine would be the likely culprit. This
is the
> one that seems to be causing autism, which is lyme under
another name.
How can you arrive at that conclusion? Autism predates Lyme by a
century or more.
Marshall
>
> Kurt
>
> */jessie70 /* wrote:
>
> Kurt, you got lyme disease from which vaccine? Thanks, Jess
>
> -Original Message-
> *From:* Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net]
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:31 PM
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue
>
> Hey Kathryn,
>
> No problem. Yep the mycoplasma is used alot in bio-weapons.
> Check into lyme disease, thats what I have, got it from a
> vaccine. Lots of folks with lyme suffer from cfs and fibro.
>
> Kurt
>
> */Clayton Family /* wrote:
>
> Thanks for posting this whole series. It is interesting
> reading. The
> chronic fatigue part stood out for me.
>
> "Brucella mycoplasma was probably responsible for chronic
> fatigue
> syndrome and fibromyalgia as well."
>
> It is known that fungal toxins can cause chronic fatigue,
> and it may
> well be that there are many other kinds of toxins and
> infections
> involved too. I read somewhere about other mycoplasma
> infections being
> implicated in asthma, and maybe other immune related
> conditions. Asthma
> can be caused by Valley Fever, which is an endemic fungi
> residing in
> the strata in the western states.
>
> I took antifungals for 18 months to rid myself of an
> entrenched fungal
> infection: it seemed to work, yet when I started CS, I
> began having die
> off rxns, and other rxns which were the same as what I get
> when exposed
> to toxins. Therefore, maybe the CS also releases cellular
> toxins in
> some way. In any case, I had some other kind of infection
> going on that
> the antifungals were not touching: not fungal, but
> something else, and
> the silver was doing quite a bit.
>
> fungal toxins cause neurological damage- is brucella
> fungal, I wonder?
> Those fungal toxins are used in biological weapons.
>
> And the bit about genetically engineered vacs- have you
> seen "The
> Future of Food" ? it is about genetically engineered food,
> and it seems
> like the film understates the problem. There are toxins
> and poisons
> deliberately sequenced into the genes of food, so it
> becomes poisonous
> at a low level. Organic is alot better, locally grown
> seems like the
> best idea.
>
> Kathryn
>
> On Oct 13, 2007, at 6:23 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote:
>
> >> Kurt Milkowski wrote: [snipped]
> >> > In October 2004, Dmtry Lvov, head of the Russian
> Virology Institute
> >> > declared that up to one billion people around the
> world could die
> >> > during the next pandemic. It would appear that the
> human herd is
> >> about
> >> > to be culled in spectacular fashion. For whatever
> reasons, the dead
> >> > microbiologists wouldn't go along with the program.
>
>
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> Colloidal Silver.
>
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Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue
Dave wrote: That makes me wonder how I got it in 1957. The first case dates back to 1883, but the "modern lyme" history begun in 1975. I was off by 10 years. http://ftrsupplemental.blogspot.com/2007/02/history-of-lyme-disease-as-bioweapon.html The EIS and the “Discovery” of Lyme Modern Lyme history begins in 1975 when a mother in the town of Old Lyme, Connecticut reported the outbreak of a strange, multi-system disease. The town lies directly opposite the Plum Island biowarfare research lab where, according to former Justice official John Loftus, Nazi scientists brought to the US after WW2 may have test-dropped “poison ticks”. [vii] It should be noted that Loftus’ reputation for gathering accurate, hard-hitting information is strong – strong enough to bring down in disgrace the former Chancellor of Austria and Secretary-General of the UN Kurt Waldheim, after the latter’s wartime SS record was revealed. See also: http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2005/11/328067.html US Govt Admits Lyme Disease a Bioweapon Marshall Dave Marshall Dudley wrote: Kurt Milkowski wrote: How long do you think lyme has been around? It's not a "new" disease, been around for a long time. Just became named recently. From what I have been able to determine it was "designed" in the early to mid 80's, then released to the wild near the naval base's biological warefare research center around Lyme around 1986 or so. Marshall */Marshall Dudley /* wrote: Kurt Milkowski wrote: > Hey Jess, > > Most likely the mmr vaccine would be the likely culprit. This is the > one that seems to be causing autism, which is lyme under another name. How can you arrive at that conclusion? Autism predates Lyme by a century or more. Marshall > > Kurt > > */jessie70 /* wrote: > > Kurt, you got lyme disease from which vaccine? Thanks, Jess > > -Original Message- > *From:* Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] > *Sent:* Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:31 PM > *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com > *Subject:* Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue > > Hey Kathryn, > > No problem. Yep the mycoplasma is used alot in bio-weapons. > Check into lyme disease, thats what I have, got it from a > vaccine. Lots of folks with lyme suffer from cfs and fibro. > > Kurt > > */Clayton Family /* wrote: > > Thanks for posting this whole series. It is interesting > reading. The > chronic fatigue part stood out for me. > > "Brucella mycoplasma was probably responsible for chronic > fatigue > syndrome and fibromyalgia as well." > > It is known that fungal toxins can cause chronic fatigue, > and it may > well be that there are many other kinds of toxins and > infections > involved too. I read somewhere about other mycoplasma > infections being > implicated in asthma, and maybe other immune related > conditions. Asthma > can be caused by Valley Fever, which is an endemic fungi > residing in > the strata in the western states. > > I took antifungals for 18 months to rid myself of an > entrenched fungal > infection: it seemed to work, yet when I started CS, I > began having die > off rxns, and other rxns which were the same as what I get > when exposed > to toxins. Therefore, maybe the CS also releases cellular > toxins in > some way. In any case, I had some other kind of infection > going on that > the antifungals were not touching: not fungal, but > something else, and > the silver was doing quite a bit. > > fungal toxins cause neurological damage- is brucella > fungal, I wonder? > Those fungal toxins are used in biological weapons. > > And the bit about genetically engineered vacs- have you > seen "The > Future of Food" ? it is about genetically engineered food, > and it seems > like the film understates the problem. There are toxins > and poisons > deliberately sequenced into the genes of food, so it > becomes poisonous > at a low level. Organic is alot better, locally grown > seems like the > best idea. > > Kathryn > > On Oct 13, 2007, at 6:23 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: > > >> Kurt Milkowski wrote: [snipped] > >> > In October 2004, Dmtry Lvov, head of the Russian > Virology Institute > >> > declared that up to one billion people around the > world could die > >> > during the next pandemic. It would appear that the > human herd is > >> about > >> > to be culled in spectacular fashion. For whatever > reasons, the dead > >> > microbiologists wouldn't go along with the program. > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing > Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: > http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: > silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently > down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > >
Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue
That makes me wonder how I got it in 1957. Dave Marshall Dudley wrote: Kurt Milkowski wrote: How long do you think lyme has been around? It's not a "new" disease, been around for a long time. Just became named recently. From what I have been able to determine it was "designed" in the early to mid 80's, then released to the wild near the naval base's biological warefare research center around Lyme around 1986 or so. Marshall */Marshall Dudley /* wrote: Kurt Milkowski wrote: > Hey Jess, > > Most likely the mmr vaccine would be the likely culprit. This is the > one that seems to be causing autism, which is lyme under another name. How can you arrive at that conclusion? Autism predates Lyme by a century or more. Marshall > > Kurt > > */jessie70 /* wrote: > > Kurt, you got lyme disease from which vaccine? Thanks, Jess > > -Original Message- > *From:* Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] > *Sent:* Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:31 PM > *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com > *Subject:* Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue > > Hey Kathryn, > > No problem. Yep the mycoplasma is used alot in bio-weapons. > Check into lyme disease, thats what I have, got it from a > vaccine. Lots of folks with lyme suffer from cfs and fibro. > > Kurt > > */Clayton Family /* wrote: > > Thanks for posting this whole series. It is interesting > reading. The > chronic fatigue part stood out for me. > > "Brucella mycoplasma was probably responsible for chronic > fatigue > syndrome and fibromyalgia as well." > > It is known that fungal toxins can cause chronic fatigue, > and it may > well be that there are many other kinds of toxins and > infections > involved too. I read somewhere about other mycoplasma > infections being > implicated in asthma, and maybe other immune related > conditions. Asthma > can be caused by Valley Fever, which is an endemic fungi > residing in > the strata in the western states. > > I took antifungals for 18 months to rid myself of an > entrenched fungal > infection: it seemed to work, yet when I started CS, I > began having die > off rxns, and other rxns which were the same as what I get > when exposed > to toxins. Therefore, maybe the CS also releases cellular > toxins in > some way. In any case, I had some other kind of infection > going on that > the antifungals were not touching: not fungal, but > something else, and > the silver was doing quite a bit. > > fungal toxins cause neurological damage- is brucella > fungal, I wonder? > Those fungal toxins are used in biological weapons. > > And the bit about genetically engineered vacs- have you > seen "The > Future of Food" ? it is about genetically engineered food, > and it seems > like the film understates the problem. There are toxins > and poisons > deliberately sequenced into the genes of food, so it > becomes poisonous > at a low level. Organic is alot better, locally grown > seems like the > best idea. > > Kathryn > > On Oct 13, 2007, at 6:23 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: > > >> Kurt Milkowski wrote: [snipped] > >> > In October 2004, Dmtry Lvov, head of the Russian > Virology Institute > >> > declared that up to one billion people around the > world could die > >> > during the next pandemic. It would appear that the > human herd is > >> about > >> > to be culled in spectacular fashion. For whatever > reasons, the dead > >> > microbiologists wouldn't go along with the program. > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing > Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: > http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: > silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently > down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > >
Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue
Kurt Milkowski wrote: How long do you think lyme has been around? It's not a "new" disease, been around for a long time. Just became named recently. From what I have been able to determine it was "designed" in the early to mid 80's, then released to the wild near the naval base's biological warefare research center around Lyme around 1986 or so. Marshall */Marshall Dudley /* wrote: Kurt Milkowski wrote: > Hey Jess, > > Most likely the mmr vaccine would be the likely culprit. This is the > one that seems to be causing autism, which is lyme under another name. How can you arrive at that conclusion? Autism predates Lyme by a century or more. Marshall > > Kurt > > */jessie70 /* wrote: > > Kurt, you got lyme disease from which vaccine? Thanks, Jess > > -Original Message- > *From:* Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] > *Sent:* Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:31 PM > *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com > *Subject:* Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue > > Hey Kathryn, > > No problem. Yep the mycoplasma is used alot in bio-weapons. > Check into lyme disease, thats what I have, got it from a > vaccine. Lots of folks with lyme suffer from cfs and fibro. > > Kurt > > */Clayton Family /* wrote: > > Thanks for posting this whole series. It is interesting > reading. The > chronic fatigue part stood out for me. > > "Brucella mycoplasma was probably responsible for chronic > fatigue > syndrome and fibromyalgia as well." > > It is known that fungal toxins can cause chronic fatigue, > and it may > well be that there are many other kinds of toxins and > infections > involved too. I read somewhere about other mycoplasma > infections being > implicated in asthma, and maybe other immune related > conditions. Asthma > can be caused by Valley Fever, which is an endemic fungi > residing in > the strata in the western states. > > I took antifungals for 18 months to rid myself of an > entrenched fungal > infection: it seemed to work, yet when I started CS, I > began having die > off rxns, and other rxns which were the same as what I get > when exposed > to toxins. Therefore, maybe the CS also releases cellular > toxins in > some way. In any case, I had some other kind of infection > going on that > the antifungals were not touching: not fungal, but > something else, and > the silver was doing quite a bit. > > fungal toxins cause neurological damage- is brucella > fungal, I wonder? > Those fungal toxins are used in biological weapons. > > And the bit about genetically engineered vacs- have you > seen "The > Future of Food" ? it is about genetically engineered food, > and it seems > like the film understates the problem. There are toxins > and poisons > deliberately sequenced into the genes of food, so it > becomes poisonous > at a low level. Organic is alot better, locally grown > seems like the > best idea. > > Kathryn > > On Oct 13, 2007, at 6:23 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: > > >> Kurt Milkowski wrote: [snipped] > >> > In October 2004, Dmtry Lvov, head of the Russian > Virology Institute > >> > declared that up to one billion people around the > world could die > >> > during the next pandemic. It would appear that the > human herd is > >> about > >> > to be culled in spectacular fashion. For whatever > reasons, the dead > >> > microbiologists wouldn't go along with the program. > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing > Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: > http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: > silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently > down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > >
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Kurt, How do you know you get lyme from the measles vaccine? Thanks again, Jess - -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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How long do you think lyme has been around? It's not a "new" disease, been around for a long time. Just became named recently. Marshall Dudley wrote: Kurt Milkowski wrote: > Hey Jess, > > Most likely the mmr vaccine would be the likely culprit. This is the > one that seems to be causing autism, which is lyme under another name. How can you arrive at that conclusion? Autism predates Lyme by a century or more. Marshall > > Kurt > > */jessie70 /* wrote: > > Kurt, you got lyme disease from which vaccine? Thanks, Jess > > -Original Message- > *From:* Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] > *Sent:* Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:31 PM > *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com > *Subject:* Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue > > Hey Kathryn, > > No problem. Yep the mycoplasma is used alot in bio-weapons. > Check into lyme disease, thats what I have, got it from a > vaccine. Lots of folks with lyme suffer from cfs and fibro. > > Kurt > > */Clayton Family /* wrote: > > Thanks for posting this whole series. It is interesting > reading. The > chronic fatigue part stood out for me. > > "Brucella mycoplasma was probably responsible for chronic > fatigue > syndrome and fibromyalgia as well." > > It is known that fungal toxins can cause chronic fatigue, > and it may > well be that there are many other kinds of toxins and > infections > involved too. I read somewhere about other mycoplasma > infections being > implicated in asthma, and maybe other immune related > conditions. Asthma > can be caused by Valley Fever, which is an endemic fungi > residing in > the strata in the western states. > > I took antifungals for 18 months to rid myself of an > entrenched fungal > infection: it seemed to work, yet when I started CS, I > began having die > off rxns, and other rxns which were the same as what I get > when exposed > to toxins. Therefore, maybe the CS also releases cellular > toxins in > some way. In any case, I had some other kind of infection > going on that > the antifungals were not touching: not fungal, but > something else, and > the silver was doing quite a bit. > > fungal toxins cause neurological damage- is brucella > fungal, I wonder? > Those fungal toxins are used in biological weapons. > > And the bit about genetically engineered vacs- have you > seen "The > Future of Food" ? it is about genetically engineered food, > and it seems > like the film understates the problem. There are toxins > and poisons > deliberately sequenced into the genes of food, so it > becomes poisonous > at a low level. Organic is alot better, locally grown > seems like the > best idea. > > Kathryn > > On Oct 13, 2007, at 6:23 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: > > >> Kurt Milkowski wrote: [snipped] > >> > In October 2004, Dmtry Lvov, head of the Russian > Virology Institute > >> > declared that up to one billion people around the > world could die > >> > during the next pandemic. It would appear that the > human herd is > >> about > >> > to be culled in spectacular fashion. For whatever > reasons, the dead > >> > microbiologists wouldn't go along with the program. > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing > Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: > http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: > silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently > down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > >
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Kurt Milkowski wrote: Hey Jess, Most likely the mmr vaccine would be the likely culprit. This is the one that seems to be causing autism, which is lyme under another name. How can you arrive at that conclusion? Autism predates Lyme by a century or more. Marshall Kurt */jessie70 /* wrote: Kurt, you got lyme disease from which vaccine? Thanks, Jess -Original Message- *From:* Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] *Sent:* Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:31 PM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue Hey Kathryn, No problem. Yep the mycoplasma is used alot in bio-weapons. Check into lyme disease, thats what I have, got it from a vaccine. Lots of folks with lyme suffer from cfs and fibro. Kurt */Clayton Family /* wrote: Thanks for posting this whole series. It is interesting reading. The chronic fatigue part stood out for me. "Brucella mycoplasma was probably responsible for chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia as well." It is known that fungal toxins can cause chronic fatigue, and it may well be that there are many other kinds of toxins and infections involved too. I read somewhere about other mycoplasma infections being implicated in asthma, and maybe other immune related conditions. Asthma can be caused by Valley Fever, which is an endemic fungi residing in the strata in the western states. I took antifungals for 18 months to rid myself of an entrenched fungal infection: it seemed to work, yet when I started CS, I began having die off rxns, and other rxns which were the same as what I get when exposed to toxins. Therefore, maybe the CS also releases cellular toxins in some way. In any case, I had some other kind of infection going on that the antifungals were not touching: not fungal, but something else, and the silver was doing quite a bit. fungal toxins cause neurological damage- is brucella fungal, I wonder? Those fungal toxins are used in biological weapons. And the bit about genetically engineered vacs- have you seen "The Future of Food" ? it is about genetically engineered food, and it seems like the film understates the problem. There are toxins and poisons deliberately sequenced into the genes of food, so it becomes poisonous at a low level. Organic is alot better, locally grown seems like the best idea. Kathryn On Oct 13, 2007, at 6:23 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: >> Kurt Milkowski wrote: [snipped] >> > In October 2004, Dmtry Lvov, head of the Russian Virology Institute >> > declared that up to one billion people around the world could die >> > during the next pandemic. It would appear that the human herd is >> about >> > to be culled in spectacular fashion. For whatever reasons, the dead >> > microbiologists wouldn't go along with the program. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Keeping current on this thing has been difficult. At last report the vaccine was being tested on US Air Force personnel. Emergent BioSolutions in $448M Contract Anthrax vaccines to become mandatory again ...www.gnn.tv/headlines/11819/Anthrax_vaccines_to_become_mandatory_again - 17k - Cached U.S. cancels VaxGen anthrax vaccine contract - Boston.com ... boston.com/business/.../20/us_cancels_vaxgen_anthrax_vaccine_contract - 32k VaxGen Awarded $80.3 Million NIAID Contract for Advanced Development of ... prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/...&EDATE= - 20k - Cached Pentagon Shifts Anthrax Vaccine to Civilian Uses www.tetrahedron.org/articles/anthrax/anthrax_public.html - 40k - Cached There is no fedaral law requiring any vaccination. Kurt Leslie wrote: Is this one that is required for the children to be in school? I know they will send them home now if they don't have all their shots. Mine is out now thank God. Leslie - Original Message - From: Kurt Milkowski To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 4:12 PM Subject: RE: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue Hey Jess, Most likely the mmr vaccine would be the likely culprit. This is the one that seems to be causing autism, which is lyme under another name. Kurt jessie70 wrote: Kurt, you got lyme disease from which vaccine? Thanks, Jess -Original Message- From: Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue Hey Kathryn, No problem. Yep the mycoplasma is used alot in bio-weapons. Check into lyme disease, thats what I have, got it from a vaccine. Lots of folks with lyme suffer from cfs and fibro. Kurt Clayton Family wrote: Thanks for posting this whole series. It is interesting reading. The chronic fatigue part stood out for me. "Brucella mycoplasma was probably responsible for chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia as well." It is known that fungal toxins can cause chronic fatigue, and it may well be that there are many other kinds of toxins and infections involved too. I read somewhere about other mycoplasma infections being implicated in asthma, and maybe other immune related conditions. Asthma can be caused by Valley Fever, which is an endemic fungi residing in the strata in the western states. I took antifungals for 18 months to rid myself of an entrenched fungal infection: it seemed to work, yet when I started CS, I began having die off rxns, and other rxns which were the same as what I get when exposed to toxins. Therefore, maybe the CS also releases cellular toxins in some way. In any case, I had some other kind of infection going on that the antifungals were not touching: not fungal, but something else, and the silver was doing quite a bit. fungal toxins cause neurological damage- is brucella fungal, I wonder? Those fungal toxins are used in biological weapons. And the bit about genetically engineered vacs- have you seen "The Future of Food" ? it is about genetically engineered food, and it seems like the film understates the problem. There are toxins and poisons deliberately sequenced into the genes of food, so it becomes poisonous at a low level. Organic is alot better, locally grown seems like the best idea. Kathryn On Oct 13, 2007, at 6:23 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: >> Kurt Milkowski wrote: [snipped] >> > In October 2004, Dmtry Lvov, head of the Russian Virology Institute >> > declared that up to one billion people around the world could die >> > during the next pandemic. It would appear that the human herd is >> about >> > to be culled in spectacular fashion. For whatever reasons, the dead >> > microbiologists wouldn't go along with the program. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour =z= The novelist, journalist and psychologist Michael Zangari http://zangarijournalism.com - Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more!
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Mumps, measles, & rubella jessie70 wrote: Kurt, what is the mmr vaccine? Jess -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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measles, mumps, rubella all combined in one vaccine. - Original Message - From: jessie70 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 7:57 PM Subject: RE: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue Kurt, what is the mmr vaccine? Jess -Original Message- From: Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 5:12 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue Hey Jess, Most likely the mmr vaccine would be the likely culprit. This is the one that seems to be causing autism, which is lyme under another name. Kurt jessie70 wrote: Kurt, you got lyme disease from which vaccine? Thanks, Jess -Original Message- From: Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue Hey Kathryn, No problem. Yep the mycoplasma is used alot in bio-weapons. Check into lyme disease, thats what I have, got it from a vaccine. Lots of folks with lyme suffer from cfs and fibro. Kurt Clayton Family wrote: Thanks for posting this whole series. It is interesting reading. The chronic fatigue part stood out for me. "Brucella mycoplasma was probably responsible for chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia as well." It is known that fungal toxins can cause chronic fatigue, and it may well be that there are many other kinds of toxins and infections involved too. I read somewhere about other mycoplasma infections being implicated in asthma, and maybe other immune related conditions. Asthma can be caused by Valley Fever, which is an endemic fungi residing in the strata in the western states. I took antifungals for 18 months to rid myself of an entrenched fungal infection: it seemed to work, yet when I started CS, I began having die off rxns, and other rxns which were the same as what I get when exposed to toxins. Therefore, maybe the CS also releases cellular toxins in some way. In any case, I had some other kind of infection going on that the antifungals were not touching: not fungal, but something else, and the silver was doing quite a bit. fungal toxins cause neurological damage- is brucella fungal, I wonder? Those fungal toxins are used in biological weapons. And the bit about genetically engineered vacs- have you seen "The Future of Food" ? it is about genetically engineered food, and it seems like the film understates the problem. There are toxins and poisons deliberately sequenced into the genes of food, so it becomes poisonous at a low level. Organic is alot better, locally grown seems like the best idea. Kathryn On Oct 13, 2007, at 6:23 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: >> Kurt Milkowski wrote: [snipped] >> > In October 2004, Dmtry Lvov, head of the Russian Virology Institute >> > declared that up to one billion people around the world could die >> > during the next pandemic. It would appear that the human herd is >> about >> > to be culled in spectacular fashion. For whatever reasons, the dead >> > microbiologists wouldn't go along with the program. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.11/1071 - Release Date: 10/15/2007 6:48 AM
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Kurt, what is the mmr vaccine? Jess -Original Message- From: Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 5:12 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue Hey Jess, Most likely the mmr vaccine would be the likely culprit. This is the one that seems to be causing autism, which is lyme under another name. Kurt jessie70 wrote: Kurt, you got lyme disease from which vaccine? Thanks, Jess -Original Message- From: Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue Hey Kathryn, No problem. Yep the mycoplasma is used alot in bio-weapons. Check into lyme disease, thats what I have, got it from a vaccine. Lots of folks with lyme suffer from cfs and fibro. Kurt Clayton Family wrote: Thanks for posting this whole series. It is interesting reading. The chronic fatigue part stood out for me. "Brucella mycoplasma was probably responsible for chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia as well." It is known that fungal toxins can cause chronic fatigue, and it may well be that there are many other kinds of toxins and infections involved too. I read somewhere about other mycoplasma infections being implicated in asthma, and maybe other immune related conditions. Asthma can be caused by Valley Fever, which is an endemic fungi residing in the strata in the western states. I took antifungals for 18 months to rid myself of an entrenched fungal infection: it seemed to work, yet when I started CS, I began having die off rxns, and other rxns which were the same as what I get when exposed to toxins. Therefore, maybe the CS also releases cellular toxins in some way. In any case, I had some other kind of infection going on that the antifungals were not touching: not fungal, but something else, and the silver was doing quite a bit. fungal toxins cause neurological damage- is brucella fungal, I wonder? Those fungal toxins are used in biological weapons. And the bit about genetically engineered vacs- have you seen "The Future of Food" ? it is about genetically engineered food, and it seems like the film understates the problem. There are toxins and poisons deliberately sequenced into the genes of food, so it becomes poisonous at a low level. Organic is alot better, locally grown seems like the best idea. Kathryn On Oct 13, 2007, at 6:23 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: >> Kurt Milkowski wrote: [snipped] >> > In October 2004, Dmtry Lvov, head of the Russian Virology Institute >> > declared that up to one billion people around the world could die >> > during the next pandemic. It would appear that the human herd is >> about >> > to be culled in spectacular fashion. For whatever reasons, the dead >> > microbiologists wouldn't go along with the program. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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There is no fedaral law requiring any vaccination. Kurt Leslie wrote: Is this one that is required for the children to be in school? I know they will send them home now if they don't have all their shots. Mine is out now thank God. Leslie - Original Message - From: Kurt Milkowski To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 4:12 PM Subject: RE: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue Hey Jess, Most likely the mmr vaccine would be the likely culprit. This is the one that seems to be causing autism, which is lyme under another name. Kurt jessie70 wrote: Kurt, you got lyme disease from which vaccine? Thanks, Jess -Original Message- From: Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue Hey Kathryn, No problem. Yep the mycoplasma is used alot in bio-weapons. Check into lyme disease, thats what I have, got it from a vaccine. Lots of folks with lyme suffer from cfs and fibro. Kurt Clayton Family wrote: Thanks for posting this whole series. It is interesting reading. The chronic fatigue part stood out for me. "Brucella mycoplasma was probably responsible for chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia as well." It is known that fungal toxins can cause chronic fatigue, and it may well be that there are many other kinds of toxins and infections involved too. I read somewhere about other mycoplasma infections being implicated in asthma, and maybe other immune related conditions. Asthma can be caused by Valley Fever, which is an endemic fungi residing in the strata in the western states. I took antifungals for 18 months to rid myself of an entrenched fungal infection: it seemed to work, yet when I started CS, I began having die off rxns, and other rxns which were the same as what I get when exposed to toxins. Therefore, maybe the CS also releases cellular toxins in some way. In any case, I had some other kind of infection going on that the antifungals were not touching: not fungal, but something else, and the silver was doing quite a bit. fungal toxins cause neurological damage- is brucella fungal, I wonder? Those fungal toxins are used in biological weapons. And the bit about genetically engineered vacs- have you seen "The Future of Food" ? it is about genetically engineered food, and it seems like the film understates the problem. There are toxins and poisons deliberately sequenced into the genes of food, so it becomes poisonous at a low level. Organic is alot better, locally grown seems like the best idea. Kathryn On Oct 13, 2007, at 6:23 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: >> Kurt Milkowski wrote: [snipped] >> > In October 2004, Dmtry Lvov, head of the Russian Virology Institute >> > declared that up to one billion people around the world could die >> > during the next pandemic. It would appear that the human herd is >> about >> > to be culled in spectacular fashion. For whatever reasons, the dead >> > microbiologists wouldn't go along with the program. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Is this one that is required for the children to be in school? I know they will send them home now if they don't have all their shots. Mine is out now thank God. Leslie - Original Message - From: Kurt Milkowski To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 4:12 PM Subject: RE: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue Hey Jess, Most likely the mmr vaccine would be the likely culprit. This is the one that seems to be causing autism, which is lyme under another name. Kurt jessie70 wrote: Kurt, you got lyme disease from which vaccine? Thanks, Jess -Original Message- From: Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue Hey Kathryn, No problem. Yep the mycoplasma is used alot in bio-weapons. Check into lyme disease, thats what I have, got it from a vaccine. Lots of folks with lyme suffer from cfs and fibro. Kurt Clayton Family wrote: Thanks for posting this whole series. It is interesting reading. The chronic fatigue part stood out for me. "Brucella mycoplasma was probably responsible for chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia as well." It is known that fungal toxins can cause chronic fatigue, and it may well be that there are many other kinds of toxins and infections involved too. I read somewhere about other mycoplasma infections being implicated in asthma, and maybe other immune related conditions. Asthma can be caused by Valley Fever, which is an endemic fungi residing in the strata in the western states. I took antifungals for 18 months to rid myself of an entrenched fungal infection: it seemed to work, yet when I started CS, I began having die off rxns, and other rxns which were the same as what I get when exposed to toxins. Therefore, maybe the CS also releases cellular toxins in some way. In any case, I had some other kind of infection going on that the antifungals were not touching: not fungal, but something else, and the silver was doing quite a bit. fungal toxins cause neurological damage- is brucella fungal, I wonder? Those fungal toxins are used in biological weapons. And the bit about genetically engineered vacs- have you seen "The Future of Food" ? it is about genetically engineered food, and it seems like the film understates the problem. There are toxins and poisons deliberately sequenced into the genes of food, so it becomes poisonous at a low level. Organic is alot better, locally grown seems like the best idea. Kathryn On Oct 13, 2007, at 6:23 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: >> Kurt Milkowski wrote: [snipped] >> > In October 2004, Dmtry Lvov, head of the Russian Virology Institute >> > declared that up to one billion people around the world could die >> > during the next pandemic. It would appear that the human herd is >> about >> > to be culled in spectacular fashion. For whatever reasons, the dead >> > microbiologists wouldn't go along with the program. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Thats because it's the biggest cover up ever. If you look at the crappy testing you will see it's crappy for a reason. If it were accurate we would have a revolution already. Bowen labs in Florida was never able to find a person that did not test positive. Bowen looked for the presence of Borrelia Burgdorferi, the spirochete, not for an anit-body respose like the other tests do. Kurt Clayton Family wrote: Well, when she told me about that, she also gave me a referral to a doc that works along the lines of Shoemaker, and treats chronic lymes', so I think she knew that. In this state the powers that be will pull a drs liscense for stepping out of line. The lab wrote false positive on the result. I am not sure what they means by that- if their procedure was bad or what. More likely someone told them what to respond when certain bands show? or something. And this does not even get into the territory of the test testing for the european strain and not the north american indigenous varieties, nor other bugs that can cause similar symptoms, so I hear. Kathryn On Oct 15, 2007, at 4:34 AM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: > Just exactly what did they tell you was a "false" positive? That would > be like taking a pregnancy test and only being a little pregnant. If > any band shows positive on a western blot, thats a positive result. > Now I don't remember which one but one of the bands shows up in > anybody thats been vaccinated, h. > > Kurt > > Clayton Family wrote: >> Have you seen the work by dr Shoemaker of new Jersey and Dr Schaller, >> with lyme's and other biotoxin diseases? They have had some good >> results, and it is at least an interesting read, even if you have your >> own protocol down. Shoemaker cures the fibro for some. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue
Hey Jess, Most likely the mmr vaccine would be the likely culprit. This is the one that seems to be causing autism, which is lyme under another name. Kurt jessie70 wrote: Kurt, you got lyme disease from which vaccine? Thanks, Jess -Original Message- From: Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue Hey Kathryn, No problem. Yep the mycoplasma is used alot in bio-weapons. Check into lyme disease, thats what I have, got it from a vaccine. Lots of folks with lyme suffer from cfs and fibro. Kurt Clayton Family wrote: Thanks for posting this whole series. It is interesting reading. The chronic fatigue part stood out for me. "Brucella mycoplasma was probably responsible for chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia as well." It is known that fungal toxins can cause chronic fatigue, and it may well be that there are many other kinds of toxins and infections involved too. I read somewhere about other mycoplasma infections being implicated in asthma, and maybe other immune related conditions. Asthma can be caused by Valley Fever, which is an endemic fungi residing in the strata in the western states. I took antifungals for 18 months to rid myself of an entrenched fungal infection: it seemed to work, yet when I started CS, I began having die off rxns, and other rxns which were the same as what I get when exposed to toxins. Therefore, maybe the CS also releases cellular toxins in some way. In any case, I had some other kind of infection going on that the antifungals were not touching: not fungal, but something else, and the silver was doing quite a bit. fungal toxins cause neurological damage- is brucella fungal, I wonder? Those fungal toxins are used in biological weapons. And the bit about genetically engineered vacs- have you seen "The Future of Food" ? it is about genetically engineered food, and it seems like the film understates the problem. There are toxins and poisons deliberately sequenced into the genes of food, so it becomes poisonous at a low level. Organic is alot better, locally grown seems like the best idea. Kathryn On Oct 13, 2007, at 6:23 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: >> Kurt Milkowski wrote: [snipped] >> > In October 2004, Dmtry Lvov, head of the Russian Virology Institute >> > declared that up to one billion people around the world could die >> > during the next pandemic. It would appear that the human herd is >> about >> > to be culled in spectacular fashion. For whatever reasons, the dead >> > microbiologists wouldn't go along with the program. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue
Kurt, you got lyme disease from which vaccine? Thanks, Jess -Original Message- From: Kurt Milkowski [mailto:kurt.milkow...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 6:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue Hey Kathryn, No problem. Yep the mycoplasma is used alot in bio-weapons. Check into lyme disease, thats what I have, got it from a vaccine. Lots of folks with lyme suffer from cfs and fibro. Kurt Clayton Family wrote: Thanks for posting this whole series. It is interesting reading. The chronic fatigue part stood out for me. "Brucella mycoplasma was probably responsible for chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia as well." It is known that fungal toxins can cause chronic fatigue, and it may well be that there are many other kinds of toxins and infections involved too. I read somewhere about other mycoplasma infections being implicated in asthma, and maybe other immune related conditions. Asthma can be caused by Valley Fever, which is an endemic fungi residing in the strata in the western states. I took antifungals for 18 months to rid myself of an entrenched fungal infection: it seemed to work, yet when I started CS, I began having die off rxns, and other rxns which were the same as what I get when exposed to toxins. Therefore, maybe the CS also releases cellular toxins in some way. In any case, I had some other kind of infection going on that the antifungals were not touching: not fungal, but something else, and the silver was doing quite a bit. fungal toxins cause neurological damage- is brucella fungal, I wonder? Those fungal toxins are used in biological weapons. And the bit about genetically engineered vacs- have you seen "The Future of Food" ? it is about genetically engineered food, and it seems like the film understates the problem. There are toxins and poisons deliberately sequenced into the genes of food, so it becomes poisonous at a low level. Organic is alot better, locally grown seems like the best idea. Kathryn On Oct 13, 2007, at 6:23 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: >> Kurt Milkowski wrote: [snipped] >> > In October 2004, Dmtry Lvov, head of the Russian Virology Institute >> > declared that up to one billion people around the world could die >> > during the next pandemic. It would appear that the human herd is >> about >> > to be culled in spectacular fashion. For whatever reasons, the dead >> > microbiologists wouldn't go along with the program. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue
Well, when she told me about that, she also gave me a referral to a doc that works along the lines of Shoemaker, and treats chronic lymes', so I think she knew that. In this state the powers that be will pull a drs liscense for stepping out of line. The lab wrote false positive on the result. I am not sure what they means by that- if their procedure was bad or what. More likely someone told them what to respond when certain bands show? or something. And this does not even get into the territory of the test testing for the european strain and not the north american indigenous varieties, nor other bugs that can cause similar symptoms, so I hear. Kathryn On Oct 15, 2007, at 4:34 AM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: Just exactly what did they tell you was a "false" positive? That would be like taking a pregnancy test and only being a little pregnant. If any band shows positive on a western blot, thats a positive result. Now I don't remember which one but one of the bands shows up in anybody thats been vaccinated, h. Kurt Clayton Family wrote: Have you seen the work by dr Shoemaker of new Jersey and Dr Schaller, with lyme's and other biotoxin diseases? They have had some good results, and it is at least an interesting read, even if you have your own protocol down. Shoemaker cures the fibro for some. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue
Just exactly what did they tell you was a "false" positive? That would be like taking a pregnancy test and only being a little pregnant. If any band shows positive on a western blot, thats a positive result. Now I don't remember which one but one of the bands shows up in anybody thats been vaccinated, h. Kurt Clayton Family wrote: Have you seen the work by dr Shoemaker of new Jersey and Dr Schaller, with lyme's and other biotoxin diseases? They have had some good results, and it is at least an interesting read, even if you have your own protocol down. Shoemaker cures the fibro for some. Lyme is endemic here, so I might have it too. The test came back as a "false positive". I know what this is in relation to some other tests, but am a little suspicious about this one, just a gut feeling, no real reason. The silver should take care of it (whatever it is) when I get up to a reasonable dose. I do recommend "Future of Food" film- really excellent. On Oct 14, 2007, at 5:31 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: > Hey Kathryn, > > No problem. Yep the mycoplasma is used alot in bio-weapons. Check into > lyme disease, thats what I have, got it from a vaccine. Lots of folks > with lyme suffer from cfs and fibro. > > Kurt > > Clayton Family wrote: >> Thanks for posting this whole series. It is interesting reading. The >> chronic fatigue part stood out for me. >> >> "Brucella mycoplasma was probably responsible for chronic fatigue >> syndrome and fibromyalgia as well." >> >> It is known that fungal toxins can cause chronic fatigue, and it may >> well be that there are many other kinds of toxins and infections >> involved too. I read somewhere about other mycoplasma infections being >> implicated in asthma, and maybe other immune related conditions. >> Asthma >> can be caused by Valley Fever, which is an endemic fungi residing in >> the strata in the western states. >> >> I took antifungals for 18 months to rid myself of an entrenched fungal >> infection: it seemed to work, yet when I started CS, I began having >> die >> off rxns, and other rxns which were the same as what I get when >> exposed >> to toxins. Therefore, maybe the CS also releases cellular toxins in >> some way. In any case, I had some other kind of infection going on >> that >> the antifungals were not touching: not fungal, but something else, and >> the silver was doing quite a bit. >> >> fungal toxins cause neurological damage- is brucella fungal, I wonder? >> Those fungal toxins are used in biological weapons. >> >> And the bit about genetically engineered vacs- have you seen "The >> Future of Food" ? it is about genetically engineered food, and it >> seems >> like the film understates the problem. There are toxins and poisons >> deliberately sequenced into the genes of food, so it becomes poisonous >> at a low level. Organic is alot better, locally grown seems like the >> best idea. >> >> Kathryn >> >> On Oct 13, 2007, at 6:23 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Have you seen the work by dr Shoemaker of new Jersey and Dr Schaller, with lyme's and other biotoxin diseases? They have had some good results, and it is at least an interesting read, even if you have your own protocol down. Shoemaker cures the fibro for some. Lyme is endemic here, so I might have it too. The test came back as a "false positive". I know what this is in relation to some other tests, but am a little suspicious about this one, just a gut feeling, no real reason. The silver should take care of it (whatever it is) when I get up to a reasonable dose. I do recommend "Future of Food" film- really excellent. On Oct 14, 2007, at 5:31 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: Hey Kathryn, No problem. Yep the mycoplasma is used alot in bio-weapons. Check into lyme disease, thats what I have, got it from a vaccine. Lots of folks with lyme suffer from cfs and fibro. Kurt Clayton Family wrote: Thanks for posting this whole series. It is interesting reading. The chronic fatigue part stood out for me. "Brucella mycoplasma was probably responsible for chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia as well." It is known that fungal toxins can cause chronic fatigue, and it may well be that there are many other kinds of toxins and infections involved too. I read somewhere about other mycoplasma infections being implicated in asthma, and maybe other immune related conditions. Asthma can be caused by Valley Fever, which is an endemic fungi residing in the strata in the western states. I took antifungals for 18 months to rid myself of an entrenched fungal infection: it seemed to work, yet when I started CS, I began having die off rxns, and other rxns which were the same as what I get when exposed to toxins. Therefore, maybe the CS also releases cellular toxins in some way. In any case, I had some other kind of infection going on that the antifungals were not touching: not fungal, but something else, and the silver was doing quite a bit. fungal toxins cause neurological damage- is brucella fungal, I wonder? Those fungal toxins are used in biological weapons. And the bit about genetically engineered vacs- have you seen "The Future of Food" ? it is about genetically engineered food, and it seems like the film understates the problem. There are toxins and poisons deliberately sequenced into the genes of food, so it becomes poisonous at a low level. Organic is alot better, locally grown seems like the best idea. Kathryn On Oct 13, 2007, at 6:23 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue
Hey Kathryn, No problem. Yep the mycoplasma is used alot in bio-weapons. Check into lyme disease, thats what I have, got it from a vaccine. Lots of folks with lyme suffer from cfs and fibro. Kurt Clayton Family wrote: Thanks for posting this whole series. It is interesting reading. The chronic fatigue part stood out for me. "Brucella mycoplasma was probably responsible for chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia as well." It is known that fungal toxins can cause chronic fatigue, and it may well be that there are many other kinds of toxins and infections involved too. I read somewhere about other mycoplasma infections being implicated in asthma, and maybe other immune related conditions. Asthma can be caused by Valley Fever, which is an endemic fungi residing in the strata in the western states. I took antifungals for 18 months to rid myself of an entrenched fungal infection: it seemed to work, yet when I started CS, I began having die off rxns, and other rxns which were the same as what I get when exposed to toxins. Therefore, maybe the CS also releases cellular toxins in some way. In any case, I had some other kind of infection going on that the antifungals were not touching: not fungal, but something else, and the silver was doing quite a bit. fungal toxins cause neurological damage- is brucella fungal, I wonder? Those fungal toxins are used in biological weapons. And the bit about genetically engineered vacs- have you seen "The Future of Food" ? it is about genetically engineered food, and it seems like the film understates the problem. There are toxins and poisons deliberately sequenced into the genes of food, so it becomes poisonous at a low level. Organic is alot better, locally grown seems like the best idea. Kathryn On Oct 13, 2007, at 6:23 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: >> Kurt Milkowski wrote: [snipped] >> > In October 2004, Dmtry Lvov, head of the Russian Virology Institute >> > declared that up to one billion people around the world could die >> > during the next pandemic. It would appear that the human herd is >> about >> > to be culled in spectacular fashion. For whatever reasons, the dead >> > microbiologists wouldn't go along with the program. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Vaccines- chronic fatigue
Thanks for posting this whole series. It is interesting reading. The chronic fatigue part stood out for me. "Brucella mycoplasma was probably responsible for chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia as well." It is known that fungal toxins can cause chronic fatigue, and it may well be that there are many other kinds of toxins and infections involved too. I read somewhere about other mycoplasma infections being implicated in asthma, and maybe other immune related conditions. Asthma can be caused by Valley Fever, which is an endemic fungi residing in the strata in the western states. I took antifungals for 18 months to rid myself of an entrenched fungal infection: it seemed to work, yet when I started CS, I began having die off rxns, and other rxns which were the same as what I get when exposed to toxins. Therefore, maybe the CS also releases cellular toxins in some way. In any case, I had some other kind of infection going on that the antifungals were not touching: not fungal, but something else, and the silver was doing quite a bit. fungal toxins cause neurological damage- is brucella fungal, I wonder? Those fungal toxins are used in biological weapons. And the bit about genetically engineered vacs- have you seen "The Future of Food" ? it is about genetically engineered food, and it seems like the film understates the problem. There are toxins and poisons deliberately sequenced into the genes of food, so it becomes poisonous at a low level. Organic is alot better, locally grown seems like the best idea. Kathryn On Oct 13, 2007, at 6:23 PM, Kurt Milkowski wrote: Kurt Milkowski wrote: [snipped] > In October 2004, Dmtry Lvov, head of the Russian Virology Institute > declared that up to one billion people around the world could die > during the next pandemic. It would appear that the human herd is about > to be culled in spectacular fashion. For whatever reasons, the dead > microbiologists wouldn't go along with the program. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
