Re: CSKidney Failure
Yes me too - I have a loved one with the same - Original Message - From: 2 Words Production 2wordsproduct...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 5:49 PM Subject: CSKidney Failure Hi, For a loved one, seeking to help her with failing kindeys. Does anyone know of any type of therapy out there or above there that can be used to clean the blood and support the kidneys - or even regenerate cells? Also - are there any devices that can be used on the kidney area/meridian to alleviate pain? Seeking all good healers out there to help in my quest. Blessings of good health to all, Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4734 - Release Date: 01/10/12
Re: Re: CSKidney Failure
First things that come to mind are Ashwaganda, Stinging Nettles, Castor oil packs, mainly green juices, sweeten with apples, Essiac tea is another blood purifier. Vit c Titrating to bowel tolerance. On Jan 11, 2012 4:59am, Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net wrote: Yes me too - I have a loved one with the same - Original Message - From: 2 Words Production 2wordsproduct...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 5:49 PM Subject: CSKidney Failure Hi, For a loved one, seeking to help her with failing kindeys. Does anyone know of any type of therapy out there or above there that can be used to clean the blood and support the kidneys - or even regenerate cells? Also - are there any devices that can be used on the kidney area/meridian to alleviate pain? Seeking all good healers out there to help in my quest. Blessings of good health to all, Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4734 - Release Date: 01/10/12
Re: Re: CSKidney Failure
Thank you :)) - Original Message - From: ajr...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 12:19 AM Subject: Re: Re: CSKidney Failure First things that come to mind are Ashwaganda, Stinging Nettles, Castor oil packs, mainly green juices, sweeten with apples, Essiac tea is another blood purifier. Vit c Titrating to bowel tolerance. On Jan 11, 2012 4:59am, Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net wrote: Yes me too - I have a loved one with the same - Original Message - From: 2 Words Production 2wordsproduct...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 5:49 PM Subject: CSKidney Failure Hi, For a loved one, seeking to help her with failing kindeys. Does anyone know of any type of therapy out there or above there that can be used to clean the blood and support the kidneys - or even regenerate cells? Also - are there any devices that can be used on the kidney area/meridian to alleviate pain? Seeking all good healers out there to help in my quest. Blessings of good health to all, Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4734 - Release Date: 01/10/12 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4734 - Release Date: 01/10/12
Re: CSKidney Failure
I would use zeolite. I know a lady that was on the kidney transplant list to have one of hers replaced, but when she took Natural Cellular Defense (NCD) from Wayora the kidney started working again. Because my father had diabetes I decided to try the NCD on myself before giving it to him. They have a 10 day 'jump start' where you take one bottle that normally lasts a month in just 10 days. I did this, expecting to feel/see something even though I don't have kidney problems. I could not tell any difference at all, so did not give it to my Dad. He did not have kidney issues, but being diabetic I wanted to keep it that way. But the NCD was just too expensive. But I do believe that zeolites have some affinity for kidneys--it's just that I thought the NCD was way over priced and felt that a good effect could be had by taking powdered zeolite. In all my research at the time it seemed that the powdered worked as well as liquid, or that you could make your own liquid by simply adding to water. NCD has a big story about how it is specially handled, but basically all zeolite is the same, just different mesh (size grains). Then my Dad passed away and I didn't experiment anymore with zeolites. Later a friend of mine told me that she'd been to her doctor. She was then 65 and they told her her kidneys were down to 1/3rd capacity. She was told this was 'normal' for someone her age and that they wouldn't give her medicine but would keep a watch on it because if it got worse she'd have to go on dialysis! So I told her about the NCD, but that I also thought the much cheaper powdered zeolite would work too. She ordered some. When she got it she didn't like the feel of it in her mouth by taking it dry, and she didn't like taking it in water (to me it has no taste, just a bit like clay) so she wound up putting it in capsules. She took 6 capsules twice a day. In one month she went back for more tests and the doctors were so surprised because her kidneys were now working at 90% capacity! But they know she is 'into' natural things and told her they didn't want to know what she did. Lol I will say though that there are people on other lists who have said that they have used the powdered zeolite which did not work for them, then went to other companies liquid zeolites which also didn't work, but that when they tried NCD it stopped their kidney problems. So--you may want to experiment with the cheaper powder. If that doesn't work you can go to a liquid zeolite that is cheaper than NCD or skip over to NCD. NCD is a MLM product, which is why it is so expensive. There are those that swear by it, while others get the same benefits by taking just the powder. If you go for powder you want the finest mesh you can get. This stiff will basically melt in your mouth. I had found the cheapest place to buy it at only $3 a pound. That lady told me she used it to brush her teeth with and just ate it off a spoon, but that if you didn't like doing that you just stir some into a glass of water and drink it. That lady no longer has the cheapest price--she went up in price the same as everyone else. It seems that mostly it is around $10 a pound for zeolite, but a pound lasts a long time. In fact, that lady dropped a lot of her different sizes of zeolite and now carries NCD. I guess the profit may be higher. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Yes me too - I have a loved one with the same
RE: CSKidney Failure
Hi Renee, Would you share the contact information for the lady that sells the zeolite? Thanks. PT From: gaiac...@gmail.com [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 8:37 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSKidney Failure I would use zeolite. I know a lady that was on the kidney transplant list to have one of hers replaced, but when she took Natural Cellular Defense (NCD) from Wayora the kidney started working again. Because my father had diabetes I decided to try the NCD on myself before giving it to him. They have a 10 day 'jump start' where you take one bottle that normally lasts a month in just 10 days. I did this, expecting to feel/see something even though I don't have kidney problems. I could not tell any difference at all, so did not give it to my Dad. He did not have kidney issues, but being diabetic I wanted to keep it that way. But the NCD was just too expensive. But I do believe that zeolites have some affinity for kidneys--it's just that I thought the NCD was way over priced and felt that a good effect could be had by taking powdered zeolite. In all my research at the time it seemed that the powdered worked as well as liquid, or that you could make your own liquid by simply adding to water. NCD has a big story about how it is specially handled, but basically all zeolite is the same, just different mesh (size grains). Then my Dad passed away and I didn't experiment anymore with zeolites. Later a friend of mine told me that she'd been to her doctor. She was then 65 and they told her her kidneys were down to 1/3rd capacity. She was told this was 'normal' for someone her age and that they wouldn't give her medicine but would keep a watch on it because if it got worse she'd have to go on dialysis! So I told her about the NCD, but that I also thought the much cheaper powdered zeolite would work too. She ordered some. When she got it she didn't like the feel of it in her mouth by taking it dry, and she didn't like taking it in water (to me it has no taste, just a bit like clay) so she wound up putting it in capsules. She took 6 capsules twice a day. In one month she went back for more tests and the doctors were so surprised because her kidneys were now working at 90% capacity! But they know she is 'into' natural things and told her they didn't want to know what she did. Lol I will say though that there are people on other lists who have said that they have used the powdered zeolite which did not work for them, then went to other companies liquid zeolites which also didn't work, but that when they tried NCD it stopped their kidney problems. So--you may want to experiment with the cheaper powder. If that doesn't work you can go to a liquid zeolite that is cheaper than NCD or skip over to NCD. NCD is a MLM product, which is why it is so expensive. There are those that swear by it, while others get the same benefits by taking just the powder. If you go for powder you want the finest mesh you can get. This stiff will basically melt in your mouth. I had found the cheapest place to buy it at only $3 a pound. That lady told me she used it to brush her teeth with and just ate it off a spoon, but that if you didn't like doing that you just stir some into a glass of water and drink it. That lady no longer has the cheapest price--she went up in price the same as everyone else. It seems that mostly it is around $10 a pound for zeolite, but a pound lasts a long time. In fact, that lady dropped a lot of her different sizes of zeolite and now carries NCD. I guess the profit may be higher. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Yes me too - I have a loved one with the same No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4736 - Release Date: 01/11/12
RE: CSKidney Failure
Joy wrote: For a loved one, seeking to help her with failing kindeys. Does anyone know of any type of therapy out there or above there that can be used to clean the blood and support the kidneys - or even regenerate cells? Also - are there any devices that can be used on the kidney area / meridian to alleviate pain? === Aside from the herbs others have mentioned, in an emergency especially I'd use one or more electromedical devices (LEDs and/or the Tennant Biomodulator) and Laminine. Disclosure: I'm a distributor for Laminine, and don't want to turn this into a sales pitch. Contact me off-list for more information. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, the NEW Rife Handbook (2011) Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004) VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification www.nenahsylver.com http://www.nenahsylver.com/ ; www.rifehandbook.com http://www.rifehandbook.com/
RE: CSKidney Failure
I would share if I could--I don't have it anymore. I got rid of it when I saw how she had changed her site and dropped a lot of her zeo products and even her zeo information! She'd really become an NCD distributor and so that was basically all she had on there after her change. When her prices went up so much I wrote asking why and she wrote back saying that her cost of buying bulk zeo had gone up. Originally she had told me she was looking into making her own liquid zeo for sale, but apparently gave that up in favor of just going with NCD. So I would simply Google for powdered zeolite. Check several places for the best price. Some give a lot of BS marketing hype and charge up to $25 a pound! But the basic price range that I found (about 2 years ago) was $10 a pound. And basically all zeo is the same chemical make-up. The only difference is how finely they grind it, so watch out for the scams that go on about how much better theirs is. Wow--I just did a quick search and it seems that most of the powdered zeo is going for FIFTY bucks a pound now! Guess you'll have to do some digging to see if you can get it cheaper. I knew a guy that lived where he could get pure zeolite cat litter. He ground it himself and took that. Don't be snowed by the ones that say 'it's not food grade'. It's all the same, just different grinds/mesh. I the site I had used was www.zeostore.com but that site is gone now! Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Would you share the contact information for the lady that sells the zeolite?
RE: CSKidney Failure
Thanks, Renee. Blessings, PT From: gaiac...@gmail.com [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 10:54 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSKidney Failure I would share if I could--I don't have it anymore. I got rid of it when I saw how she had changed her site and dropped a lot of her zeo products and even her zeo information! She'd really become an NCD distributor and so that was basically all she had on there after her change. When her prices went up so much I wrote asking why and she wrote back saying that her cost of buying bulk zeo had gone up. Originally she had told me she was looking into making her own liquid zeo for sale, but apparently gave that up in favor of just going with NCD. So I would simply Google for powdered zeolite. Check several places for the best price. Some give a lot of BS marketing hype and charge up to $25 a pound! But the basic price range that I found (about 2 years ago) was $10 a pound. And basically all zeo is the same chemical make-up. The only difference is how finely they grind it, so watch out for the scams that go on about how much better theirs is. Wow--I just did a quick search and it seems that most of the powdered zeo is going for FIFTY bucks a pound now! Guess you'll have to do some digging to see if you can get it cheaper. I knew a guy that lived where he could get pure zeolite cat litter. He ground it himself and took that. Don't be snowed by the ones that say 'it's not food grade'. It's all the same, just different grinds/mesh. I the site I had used was www.zeostore.com but that site is gone now! Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Would you share the contact information for the lady that sells the zeolite? No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4736 - Release Date: 01/11/12
Re: CSKidney Failure
This is the zeolite that I use.. http://www.amazon.com/Zeolite-Pure-400-powder-Health/dp/B005G6CPHY/ref=sr_1_1?s=hpcie=UTF8qid=1326313603sr=1-1 It is a dry powder and, other than being gritty, isn't unpleasant tasting at all. Lola On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 11:13 AM, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote: Thanks, Renee. Blessings, PT ** ** *From:* gaiac...@gmail.com [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, January 11, 2012 10:54 AM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* RE: CSKidney Failure ** ** I would share if I could--I don't have it anymore. I got rid of it when I saw how she had changed her site and dropped a lot of her zeo products and even her zeo information! She'd really become an NCD distributor and so that was basically all she had on there after her change. When her prices went up so much I wrote asking why and she wrote back saying that her cost of buying bulk zeo had gone up. Originally she had told me she was looking into making her own liquid zeo for sale, but apparently gave that up in favor of just going with NCD. So I would simply Google for powdered zeolite. Check several places for the best price. Some give a lot of BS marketing hype and charge up to $25 a pound! But the basic price range that I found (about 2 years ago) was $10 a pound. And basically all zeo is the same chemical make-up. The only difference is how finely they grind it, so watch out for the scams that go on about how much better theirs is. Wow--I just did a quick search and it seems that most of the powdered zeo is going for FIFTY bucks a pound now! Guess you'll have to do some digging to see if you can get it cheaper. I knew a guy that lived where he could get pure zeolite cat litter. He ground it himself and took that. Don't be snowed by the ones that say 'it's not food grade'. It's all the same, just different grinds/mesh. I the site I had used was www.zeostore.com but that site is gone now! Samala, Renee *---Original Message---* Would you share the contact information for the lady that sells the zeolite? No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4736 - Release Date: 01/11/12* ***
Re: CSKidney Failure
Hi Joy, a gentleman from another forum posted his regimen for getting off of dialysis and how it healed his kidneys. Sandy Here it is... Yes Melly--coq10 'was' one of the things I used. I made sure i bought the highest potent stuff I could find. Maybe i went overboard, but heck,,i'm off dialysis. I was on dialysis for 2 years, and seen two of my friends die their at the center. I knew i had to figure out a way of leaving there. I would go every other day, at 6 in the morning-for 5 hours. It doesn't hurt,,but man, afterwards, you felt like you were hit with a mack truck. Fortunately, i knew natural medicine worked, because i used garlic(liquid) to cure my cat of FIP, and the same thing for my dog years later who had parvo,and it cured him too. In both cases, the vet wanted to put them down, but i love animals, and thought that would be like murder. I just read a lot, I have 400-500 books on natural medicine, sooo,don't give me any credit. Other people wrote these books, i just learned from them. yes, you can research on google, kidney disease, and coq10. A dr. Richard Schulze wrote a book saying,,that no one needs to be on dialysis! Research him too, i got his books from Amazon. Ok,,the Coq10 i bought,,is called Liq-Nol. Made by epic4health. Not cheap, at 130.00 a bottle. You can research this, and get 'ubiquinol', not ubiquinone,,more potent. Google all this! The second thing,,er let me say first,,after a while on dialysis,,i decide to go 'against' what the doctors were preaching to me,,NO VITAMINS,,NO HERBS,,VERY LITTLE WATER. FINALLY I THOUGHT TO MYSELF,,DIALYSIS IS 'REMOVING ALL OF THE GOOD STUFF(MINERAL, VITAMINS ETC.) as well as the bad stuff. I was not getting better. I started taking my vitamins etc..and guess what, I immediately noticed the difference. Shortly after, I was discharge from dialysis. My last kidney doctor, a young guy(nephrologist), told me on the sly,,er,,admitted,,that he believed in what i was saying about 'curing' people, but,,in order to protect his job, would not exactly preach it to the other patients! This is the kind of world we live in,,money,,even at the expense of someones life,,is more important than the truth! My first kidney doctor was the one who 'scared' me, into 'not' taking any natural things because it could kill me. I took a chance,,I was right,,he was wrong! Sorry--got sidetracked. The second thing i took-a whole food supplement, a powerful one called Green Vibrance. I get most of my stuff from Amazon, but you can search around for better deals. The third thing I took,,and i think this had a BIG' impact--'ionized water. I see a natural health doctor here in Akron Ohio, so I take 3 gallon jugs to him, because he has a water ionizer. Costs a few bucks a gallon. Those were the 'biggies' that I did. Dr. Schulze uses kidney cleansing herbs, which, i guess i must work, but i didn't follow his exact protocol. I ate lots of garlic, took astragalus-google that, its amazing. I will think of more things I did and get back to you all. The doctor(chiropractor) i see here in Akron, is Dr. Keith Ungar, you can look him up, on YouTube, and he has teaching(no selling) videos. Anyway,,you would think,,the medical guys would be bugging me on how i got off dialysis,,since no ones hardly done it. Conspiracy of Silence,,lol.Anyway,,i'm not a writer, but i hope this helps someone I believe 'everthing, and i mean everything, can be cured with natural medicine. Its just figuring out the right protocol for your particular condition.READ READ READ! Dave --- On Wed, 1/11/12, 2 Words Production 2wordsproduct...@gmail.com wrote: From: 2 Words Production 2wordsproduct...@gmail.com Subject: CSKidney Failure To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, January 11, 2012, 12:49 AM Hi, For a loved one, seeking to help her with failing kindeys. Does anyone know of any type of therapy out there or above there that can be used to clean the blood and support the kidneys - or even regenerate cells? Also - are there any devices that can be used on the kidney area/meridian to alleviate pain? Seeking all good healers out there to help in my quest. Blessings of good health to all, Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSKidney Failure
Sandy, According to Traditional Japanese Medicine aduki bean juice is very good for the kidneys. Black beans are good too. The juice is the liquid portion of the beans after you've cooked them for several hours. _ From: Sandy [mailto:hollis302...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 2:50 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSKidney Failure Hi Joy, a gentleman from another forum posted his regimen for getting off of dialysis and how it healed his kidneys. Sandy Here it is... Yes Melly--coq10 'was' one of the things I used. I made sure i bought the highest potent stuff I could find. Maybe i went overboard, but heck,,i'm off dialysis. I was on dialysis for 2 years, and seen two of my friends die their at the center. I knew i had to figure out a way of leaving there. I would go every other day, at 6 in the morning-for 5 hours. It doesn't hurt,,but man, afterwards, you felt like you were hit with a mack truck. Fortunately, i knew natural medicine worked, because i used garlic(liquid) to cure my cat of FIP, and the same thing for my dog years later who had parvo,and it cured him too. In both cases, the vet wanted to put them down, but i love animals, and thought that would be like murder. I just read a lot, I have 400-500 books on natural medicine, sooo,don't give me any credit. Other people wrote these books, i just learned from them. yes, you can research on google, kidney disease, and coq10. A dr. Richard Schulze wrote a book saying,,that no one needs to be on dialysis! Research him too, i got his books from Amazon. Ok,,the Coq10 i bought,,is called Liq-Nol. Made by epic4health. Not cheap, at 130.00 a bottle. You can research this, and get 'ubiquinol', not ubiquinone,,more potent. Google all this! The second thing,,er let me say first,,after a while on dialysis,,i decide to go 'against' what the doctors were preaching to me,,NO VITAMINS,,NO HERBS,,VERY LITTLE WATER. FINALLY I THOUGHT TO MYSELF,,DIALYSIS IS 'REMOVING ALL OF THE GOOD STUFF(MINERAL, VITAMINS ETC.) as well as the bad stuff. I was not getting better. I started taking my vitamins etc..and guess what, I immediately noticed the difference. Shortly after, I was discharge from dialysis. My last kidney doctor, a young guy(nephrologist), told me on the sly,,er,,admitted,,that he believed in what i was saying about 'curing' people, but,,in order to protect his job, would not exactly preach it to the other patients! This is the kind of world we live in,,money,,even at the expense of someones life,,is more important than the truth! My first kidney doctor was the one who 'scared' me, into 'not' taking any natural things because it could kill me. I took a chance,,I was right,,he was wrong! Sorry--got sidetracked. The second thing i took-a whole food supplement, a powerful one called Green Vibrance. I get most of my stuff from Amazon, but you can search around for better deals. The third thing I took,,and i think this had a BIG' impact--'ionized water. I see a natural health doctor here in Akron Ohio, so I take 3 gallon jugs to him, because he has a water ionizer. Costs a few bucks a gallon. Those were the 'biggies' that I did. Dr. Schulze uses kidney cleansing herbs, which, i guess i must work, but i didn't follow his exact protocol. I ate lots of garlic, took astragalus-google that, its amazing. I will think of more things I did and get back to you all. The doctor(chiropractor) i see here in Akron, is Dr. Keith Ungar, you can look him up, on YouTube, and he has teaching(no selling) videos. Anyway,,you would think,,the medical guys would be bugging me on how i got off dialysis,,since no ones hardly done it. Conspiracy of Silence,,lol.Anyway,,i'm not a writer, but i hope this helps someone I believe 'everthing, and i mean everything, can be cured with natural medicine. Its just figuring out the right protocol for your particular condition.READ READ READ! Dave --- On Wed, 1/11/12, 2 Words Production 2wordsproduct...@gmail.com wrote: From: 2 Words Production 2wordsproduct...@gmail.com Subject: CSKidney Failure To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, January 11, 2012, 12:49 AM Hi, For a loved one, seeking to help her with failing kindeys. Does anyone know of any type of therapy out there or above there that can be used to clean the blood and support the kidneys - or even regenerate cells? Also - are there any devices that can be used on the kidney area/meridian to alleviate pain? Seeking all good healers out there to help in my quest. Blessings of good health to all, Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Congratulations Dave, Sounds like you did ! Good job, well done. I try to help people with Herbal Natural foods also, rather than pills treatments that sometimes work , can anyone tell if they are working? I really like your testimony. Now stay with what you know. Tel Tofflemire , Herbalist Albuquerque, New Mexico 505-899-3489 From: Sandy hollis302...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 3:49 PM Subject: Re: CSKidney Failure Hi Joy, a gentleman from another forum posted his regimen for getting off of dialysis and how it healed his kidneys. Sandy Here it is... Yes Melly--coq10 'was' one of the things I used. I made sure i bought the highest potent stuff I could find. Maybe i went overboard, but heck,,i'm off dialysis. I was on dialysis for 2 years, and seen two of my friends die their at the center. I knew i had to figure out a way of leaving there. I would go every other day, at 6 in the morning-for 5 hours. It doesn't hurt,,but man, afterwards, you felt like you were hit with a mack truck. Fortunately, i knew natural medicine worked, because i used garlic(liquid) to cure my cat of FIP, and the same thing for my dog years later who had parvo,and it cured him too. In both cases, the vet wanted to put them down, but i love animals, and thought that would be like murder. I just read a lot, I have 400-500 books on natural medicine, sooo,don't give me any credit. Other people wrote these books, i just learned from them. yes, you can research on google, kidney disease, and coq10. A dr. Richard Schulze wrote a book saying,,that no one needs to be on dialysis! Research him too, i got his books from Amazon. Ok,,the Coq10 i bought,,is called Liq-Nol. Made by epic4health. Not cheap, at 130.00 a bottle. You can research this, and get 'ubiquinol', not ubiquinone,,more potent. Google all this! The second thing,,er let me say first,,after a while on dialysis,,i decide to go 'against' what the doctors were preaching to me,,NO VITAMINS,,NO HERBS,,VERY LITTLE WATER. FINALLY I THOUGHT TO MYSELF,,DIALYSIS IS 'REMOVING ALL OF THE GOOD STUFF(MINERAL, VITAMINS ETC.) as well as the bad stuff. I was not getting better. I started taking my vitamins etc..and guess what, I immediately noticed the difference. Shortly after, I was discharge from dialysis. My last kidney doctor, a young guy(nephrologist), told me on the sly,,er,,admitted,,that he believed in what i was saying about 'curing' people, but,,in order to protect his job, would not exactly preach it to the other patients! This is the kind of world we live in,,money,,even at the expense of someones life,,is more important than the truth! My first kidney doctor was the one who 'scared' me, into 'not' taking any natural things because it could kill me. I took a chance,,I was right,,he was wrong! Sorry--got sidetracked. The second thing i took-a whole food supplement, a powerful one called Green Vibrance. I get most of my stuff from Amazon, but you can search around for better deals. The third thing I took,,and i think this had a BIG' impact--'ionized water. I see a natural health doctor here in Akron Ohio, so I take 3 gallon jugs to him, because he has a water ionizer. Costs a few bucks a gallon. Those were the 'biggies' that I did. Dr. Schulze uses kidney cleansing herbs, which, i guess i must work, but i didn't follow his exact protocol. I ate lots of garlic, took astragalus-google that, its amazing. I will think of more things I did and get back to you all. The doctor(chiropractor) i see here in Akron, is Dr. Keith Ungar, you can look him up, on YouTube, and he has teaching(no selling) videos. Anyway,,you would think,,the medical guys would be bugging me on how i got off dialysis,,since no ones hardly done it. Conspiracy of Silence,,lol.Anyway,,i'm not a writer, but i hope this helps someone I believe 'everthing, and i mean everything, can be cured with natural medicine. Its just figuring out the right protocol for your particular condition.READ READ READ! Dave --- On Wed, 1/11/12, 2 Words Production 2wordsproduct...@gmail.com wrote: From: 2 Words Production 2wordsproduct...@gmail.com Subject: CSKidney Failure To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, January 11, 2012, 12:49 AM Hi, For a loved one, seeking to help her with failing kindeys. Does anyone know of any type of therapy out there or above there that can be used to clean the blood and support the kidneys - or even regenerate cells? Also - are there any devices that can be used on the kidney area/meridian to alleviate pain? Seeking all good healers out there to help in my quest. Blessings of good health to all, Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions
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Hi Joy, I bought a South African device to alleviate pain and promote healing rate for £1500 after a suffered a broken leg that turned black and swole to twice its size for several months, and that did help, but the electrodes are a real bother to stick on every time I want to use it. So I recently bought a Painsolv pen for £99 (after submitting a form for VAT tax exemption due to chronic and unstopping pain for several years with RTA injuries). The company I got it from is called http://www.stressnomore.co.uk/pd/Painsolv_80822.html and it is really good at stopping pain, better than my other machine actually, as the pain I have suffered from 2 frozen shoulders in addition to my RTA injuries, one occurring straight after the other, has been absolutely excruciating and deeply debilitating, just like having knives screwed around deep inside my body and touching all the nerves, this pain has gone on for several years, and since I got the painsolv about a week ago, the pain has gone down 80%, it is absolutely fantastic. I know kidney pain is bad, especially after lithotripsy, when they just give you a couple of paracetamol and enjoy watching you hop around in excruciating pain for a week or so afterwards, without providing any morphine, just in case you get addicted, but an mergency doctor I rang to visit my flat give me some rubbish called tramadol that is absolutely guaranteed to permanently damage your kidneys, (while morphine would not). Needless to say I did not use it all. Anyway, the painsolv stimulates healing too, it is not like a tens. I think it stimulates production of ATP for healing and new cell growth, and produces masses of dopamine or whatever it is called to quell the pain, and it really works very well. With regards, Dave Glover On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 6:49 AM, 2 Words Production 2word product...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, For a loved one, seeking to help her with failing kindeys. Does anyone know of any type of therapy out there or above there that can be used to clean the blood and support the kidneys - or even regenerate cells? Also - are there any devices that can be used on the kidney area/meridian to alleviate pain? Seeking all good healers out there to help in my quest. Blessings of good health to all, Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-request@**eskimo.com silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com ?subject=**unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/**silver-list@eskimo.com/** maillist.htmlhttp://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-list@**eskimo.comsilver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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How about Hulda Clark's parsley tea? I used this before IV Chelations as the kidneys working right removes the junk that chelation breaks loose. Clark required patients urine output to be greater than 32 ounces per day before she would treat them. Parsley tea worked for me. Brickey In a message dated 1/11/2012 7:12:44 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, nenahsyl...@cox.net writes: . Does anyone know of any type of therapy out there or above there that can be used to clean the blood and support the kidneys - or even regenerate cells?
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Hi Brickey, Did you use the Italian parsley or the curley leaf parsley. It is a great diuretic. Thanks. PT From: brick...@aol.com [mailto:brick...@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 9:19 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSKidney Failure How about Hulda Clark's parsley tea? I used this before IV Chelations as the kidneys working right removes the junk that chelation breaks loose. Clark required patients urine output to be greater than 32 ounces per day before she would treat them. Parsley tea worked for me. Brickey In a message dated 1/11/2012 7:12:44 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, nenahsyl...@cox.net writes: . Does anyone know of any type of therapy out there or above there that can be used to clean the blood and support the kidneys - or even regenerate cells? No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4737 - Release Date: 01/11/12
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Have you looked up the Bob Beck Protocol. There's a lot of useful information there on cleaning blood and removing unwanted pathogens from the body. Regards, Mark On 11 Jan 2012, at 8:49, 2 Words Production 2wordsproduct...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, For a loved one, seeking to help her with failing kindeys. Does anyone know of any type of therapy out there or above there that can be used to clean the blood and support the kidneys - or even regenerate cells? Also - are there any devices that can be used on the kidney area/meridian to alleviate pain? Seeking all good healers out there to help in my quest. Blessings of good health to all, Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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www.restormedicine.com Dr N has aherbal detox...you might want to consult more with her Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2012 08:49:37 +0200 From: 2wordsproduct...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSKidney Failure Hi, For a loved one, seeking to help her with failing kindeys. Does anyone know of any type of therapy out there or above there that can be used to clean the blood and support the kidneys - or even regenerate cells? Also - are there any devices that can be used on the kidney area/meridian to alleviate pain? Seeking all good healers out there to help in my quest. Blessings of good health to all, Joy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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On 1/10/2012 11:49 PM, 2 Words Production wrote: Hi, For a loved one, seeking to help her with failing kindeys. Does anyone know of any type of therapy out there or above there that can be used to clean the blood and support the kidneys - or even regenerate cells? Also - are there any devices that can be used on the kidney area/meridian to alleviate pain? Seeking all good healers out there to help in my quest. Blessings of good health to all, Joy Joy, here are some old notes I had, I dont know if the links work anymore but there are some ideas Implementation is always the problem For starters , it would be a good idea to avoid fluoride --- Fluoride the Kidneys Many references, and more _http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/kidney/_ (http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/kidney/) Kidney Foundation Admits Risk of Fluoride _http://www.nutritionresearchcenter.org/healthnews/kidney-foundation-admits- risk-of-fluoride/_ (http://www.nutritionresearchcenter.org/healthnews/kidney-foundation-admits-risk-of-fluoride/) June 2, 2008, Press Release: Kidney Foundation Admits: Kidney Patients Should be Notified of Potential Risk from Fluorides Fluoridated Drinking Water _http://fluoridealert.org/press/nfk2.html_ (http://fluoridealert.org/press/nfk2.html) Individuals who have kidney disease or other ailments who regularly take aspirin or acetaminophen may be boosting their risk of developing kidney failure. Researchers report that such patients who were regular users -- those who took these painkillers at least twice a week for 2 months -- were two to three times more likely to have the beginning stages of chronic kidney failure, compared with individuals who did not use these painkillers on a regular basis. 81% Positive Response to Coenzyme Q10 Treatment for Chronic Kidney Failure _http://www.rejuvenation-science.com/n_coq10-kidney_failure.html_ (http://www.rejuvenation-science.com/n_coq10-kidney_failure.html) Ubiquinol - Novel Form of CoQ10 NEW _http://www.rejuvenation-science.com/coenzymeq10.html_ (http://www.rejuvenation-science.com/coenzymeq10.html) Coenzyme Q10 - Ubiquinol _http://www.rejuvenation-science.com/coenzyme-q10_ubiquinol.html_ (http://www.rejuvenation-science.com/coenzyme-q10_ubiquinol.html) Coenzyme Q10 News Research _http://www.rejuvenation-science.com/research-news_product.html#coq10_ (http://www.rejuvenation-science.com/research-news_product.html#coq10) Sodium Bicarbonate Appears To Slow Progression Of Chronic Kidney Disease The study included 134 patients with advanced CKD and low bicarbonate levels, also called metabolic acidosis. One group received a small daily dose of sodium bicarbonate in tablet form, in addition to their usual care. For this group, the rate of decline in kidney function was greatly reduced - about two-thirds slower than in patients. In fact, in patients taking sodium bicarbonate, the rate of decline in kidney function was similar to the normal age-related decline, says Yaqoob. Rapid progression of kidney disease occurred in just nine percent of patients taking sodium bicarbonate, compared to 45 percent of the other group. Patients taking sodium bicarbonate were also less likely to develop end-stage renal disease (ESRD) requiring dialysis. Patients taking sodium bicarbonate also had improvement in several measures of nutrition. Although their sodium levels went up, this didn't lead to any problems with increased blood pressure. _http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/157902.php_ (http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/157902.php) Main Category: Urology / Nephrology Article Date: 17 Jul 2009 - 4:00 PST Bicarbonate Supplementation Slows Progression of CKD and Improves Nutritional Status Ione de Brito-Ashurst , Mira Varagunam , Martin J. Raftery , and Muhammad M. Yaqoob 1 _http://jasn.asnjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/ASN.2008111205v1_ (http://jasn.asnjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/ASN.2008111205v1) Department of Renal Medicine and Transplantation, William Harvey Research Institute and Barts and the London NHS Trust, London, United Kingdom Healing the Kidneys with Sodium Bicarbonate 8 References _http://sodiumbicarbonate.imva.info/index.php/kidney-medicine/healing-the-ki dneys-with-sodium-bicarbonate/_ (http://sodiumbicarbonate.imva.info/index.php/kidney-medicine/healing-the-kidneys-with-sodium-bicarbonate/) As far as I know this study below are still recruiting but it might be worth checking them out. Sodium Bicarbonate Supplementation in Chronic Kidney Disease Evaluation of Dose Response, Safety and Beneficial Effects _http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00888290_ (http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00888290) This study is currently recruiting participants. Verified by Albert Einstein College of Medicine of Yeshiva University, December 2009 Purpose This study will enroll 25 patients with kidney disease to evaluate the effects of different doses of sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) on levels of
