Re: CS>CS Gel

[Lynn]

They have some way of doing this at silver puppy (colloidal silver generators) 
on the web. lynn
On Feb 23, 2015, at 1:27 PM, Ian  wrote:

> 
>  Hello:
>  
> I have a supply of Xanthan Gum and Xylitol and Colloidal Silver.
>  
> Does someone have a method for making a nice topical colloidal silver gel 
> that will adhere to skin, cuts and scrapes?
>  
> I've tried mixing xanthan with room temperature water, but it clumps and 
> doesn't mix well. Tried mixing the xanthan powder with xylitol granules and 
> adding to water while stirring but it didn't mix completely either. Would 
> like to have an esthetically pleasing product with a reasonable shelf life of 
> a year.  Is this possible?
>  
> I'm sure there is a way to do this - blender, mixer, - temperature may be a 
> factor - don't know.
>  
> Thank you for your help.  
>  
> Please send replies to ianro...@rogers.com
>  
> Ian Roe
> Canada.

Re: CS>CS Gel

[Marshall]

This youtube video shows it being done with an admix rotosolver, 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xPG1KXfUwU


However, when I checked the price I found one on ebay for $7500.  It 
appears that a paint mixer from Home Depot would likely also work, and 
that is a little less expensive at $1.13, 
http://www.homedepot.com/s/paint%2520mixer?NCNI-5


Marshall

On 2/23/2015 4:27 PM, Ian wrote:


 Hello:

I have a supply of Xanthan Gum and Xylitol and Colloidal Silver.

Does someone have a method for making a nice topical colloidal silver 
gel that will adhere to skin, cuts and scrapes?


I've tried mixing xanthan with room temperature water, but it clumps 
and doesn't mix well. Tried mixing the xanthan powder with xylitol 
granules and adding to water while stirring but it didn't mix 
completely either. Would like to have an esthetically pleasing product 
with a reasonable shelf life of a year.  Is this possible?


I'm sure there is a way to do this - blender, mixer, - temperature may 
be a factor - don't know.


Thank you for your help.

Please send replies to ianro...@rogers.com 

Ian Roe
Canada.

Re: CS>CS Gel

[sol]

Ian wrote:


 Hello:
 
I have a supply of Xanthan Gum and Xylitol and Colloidal Silver.
 
Does someone have a method for making a nice topical colloidal silver 
gel that will adhere to skin, cuts and scrapes?
Ode Coyote used to sell a gel mix kit. Don't know if he still does you 
could check his website.

sol

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RE: CS>CS Gel

[Ian]

Your response would have what? to do with my request, I don't understand. Can 
you explain further please?  
 
Ian
 
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 23:56:30 +
Subject: Re: CS>CS Gel
From: asifnathe...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com






What about an  ultrasonic cleaner
I know this isn't liposomal but could an analog exist in this case?.
Cheers...







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 Original message 

From: Ian  

Date: 23/02/2015 21:27 (GMT+00:00) 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: CS>CS Gel 









 Hello:

 

I have a supply of Xanthan Gum and Xylitol and Colloidal Silver.

 

Does someone have a method for making a nice topical colloidal silver gel that 
will adhere to skin, cuts and scrapes?

 

I've tried mixing xanthan with room temperature water, but it clumps and 
doesn't mix well. Tried mixing the xanthan powder with xylitol granules and 
adding to water while stirring but it didn't mix completely either. Would like 
to have an esthetically pleasing
 product with a reasonable shelf life of a year.  Is this possible?

 

I'm sure there is a way to do this - blender, mixer, - temperature may be a 
factor - don't know.

 

Thank you for your help.  

 

Please send replies to ianro...@rogers.com

 

Ian Roe

Canada.


  

Re: CS>CS Gel

[asifnathekar]

What about an  ultrasonic cleaner
I know this isn't liposomal but could an analog exist in this case?.
Cheers...


Sent from Samsung Mobile

 Original message 
From: Ian 
Date: 23/02/2015  21:27  (GMT+00:00)
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>CS Gel


 Hello:

I have a supply of Xanthan Gum and Xylitol and Colloidal Silver.

Does someone have a method for making a nice topical colloidal silver gel that 
will adhere to skin, cuts and scrapes?

I've tried mixing xanthan with room temperature water, but it clumps and 
doesn't mix well. Tried mixing the xanthan powder with xylitol granules and 
adding to water while stirring but it didn't mix completely either. Would like 
to have an esthetically pleasing product with a reasonable shelf life of a 
year.  Is this possible?

I'm sure there is a way to do this - blender, mixer, - temperature may be a 
factor - don't know.

Thank you for your help.

Please send replies to ianro...@rogers.com

Ian Roe
Canada.

Re: CS>CS Gel

[Ode Coyote]

 DMSO is water soluble, you can add as much as you want to.
Personally,  I'd not exceed 10%, but some people use the stuff straight up.

 Be aware that DMSO generates heat when mixed with water...and skin etc 
has water in it.


ode


At 09:27 AM 5/3/2009 -0700, you wrote:

Ode,
How much DMSO can or should one add to the CS gel?
Does it depend upon area applied or condition the gel is used for?
Thank you.
S-Max


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Re: CS>CS Gel?

[Sandee George]

Hi There Annie - you can get the gel kit from Ode or you can get a  
ready made up one from my site

address below
Regards
Sandee
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Re: CS>CS Gel?

[Annie]

Nvvveeerrr mind I found this after hours of digging:

http://silverpuppy.com/fullorder.html

The silver gel kit is down toward the bottom. It's really nice too, has two
containers included. :)

Although, the silver gel I have, and bought online, is only 3 ppm, and it
has Glycerin and Carbonmer in it. What the heck is Carbonmer? And is it
dangerous if it absorbs through the skin?

Annie


On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 2:09 AM, Annie  wrote:

> Hi again all,
>
> Thank you for all the helpful answers to my previous question.
>
> I'm delurking again to ask if anyone has a recipe for making a CS Gel?
>
> Annie
>
>

Re: CS>CS gel

[Dee]

what a good idea, I will look it up!  dee

Gunar wrote:

If you want to make CS gel, why not consider using
Agar, which is derived from seaweed? Safe, non-toxic
and perfect for topical application.


  
  



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Re: CS>CS gel

[Neville]

- Original Message - 
From: "Gunar" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 12:40 PM
Subject: CS>CS gel


[If you want to make CS gel, why not consider using
Agar, which is derived from seaweed? Safe, non-toxic
and perfect for topical application.]

Gunar,  OK, it's just that from what I have read, bacteria can still be 
present in gels or proteins as the 'medium' the silver is in forms a barrier 
between the silver and the bacteria, which is sort of counter-productive. 
Will look further into that sometime though.  Neville.



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Re: CS>CS gel

[Carol Ann]

In that case, I'll use Salvia Divinorium as my ticket. :)

Ode Coyote  wrote:  

It's a common field weed that ranges from the southern tip of florida to 
the arctic circle to Oregon.
Try just beyond your lawn, or, in my case, in the green stuff I call a lawn.

Careful now, unless you like walking with Ents and "toasting 
marshmallows" with cross bow toting gnomes for a few days at a stretch...or 
teleporting through space time membranes with MIB on your tail. [Creepy 
kritters, those! ..and the gnomes don't like them, that's why the cross 
bows. Gnomes are cool, so are Ents MIB? scary and dogged! ..but pretty 
slow and stupid almost like zombies]

The ticket's free, the destination...unknowable and it's a pretty long 
and weird journey. [Maybe witches have steering wheels ]


..never saw any zombies anywhere.

Ode


At 03:41 PM 5/6/2007 -0700, you wrote:

>Jimson weed is both used by witches to "fly"
>
>Hey Ode,
>Airline tickets are getting rather expensive these days, not to mention 
>what a harassment Home land security is.
>
>So, where do I get Jimson weed? :)
>
>
>Ode Coyote wrote:
>
>Cyanide is used to cure cancer, present in apricot and apple seeds.
>Tree frog poison is used by Shamans to "see" beyond the boundaries.
>Extract of Jimson weed is both used by witches to "fly" and as an
>antidote to most poisons. Atropine and Scopolamine, also used in
>"sleep-eze", included as an injection in the anti bio-terrorist tool kit.
>..so you won't die in "this" reality.
>Blood thinners are also rat poisons..table salt can be made into plastic
>explosives, dynamite for heart attacks, a whack with a willow stick to get
>a headache, eat a little willow bark the whack broke loose to get rid of
>it, aspirin on and on.
>Ode
>
>
>At 09:27 PM 5/5/2007 +0100, you wrote:
> >What about cyanide, or green tree frog poison? (lol) Dee
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Re: CS>CS gel

[Ode Coyote]

 ..and mine, has you, being you, for me.

 Everything happens for a reason, usually unfathomable from this point of 
view, like a dogs tail pondering the dogs nose as it wags and both 
wondering about what smell is.

 Guessing is fun.
 Wonderingan occupation.
 Very entertaining.

Think "adventure"
 By definition, an adventurer never knows what's next and winds up in the 
wildest situations for it.
 Back at the club...stories to tell, triumphs and loves and broken 
bones...you cannot not get back to the club.


People want to know, Why don't I remember past and future lives?
Well, do you remember what you had for breakfast last week on Tuesday?
If the milk was sour in your Cheerios, or if strawberries magically 
appeared, you will remember more of that out of thousands of mundane meals.

 That has drama and drama makes better stories.
Every event is recorded, the hologram has no memory limit,  but it's 
re-call that makes the 'remember when' stories and builds "characters".

 Scars, aches and pains...like bookmarks, reminders...a treasure of sorts.
 It's a pain in the buttock to tote the chest around sometimes, but even 
that effort.counts high in the book of life being written.
 Villain or hero this time around...doesn't matterit's all about the 
story.


Ode

At 09:26 AM 5/9/2007 -0400, you wrote:


Ode,

I like very much your weird weirdiness. Several parts of my brain and also 
joints and specially the bones I broke at different times (only speaking 
about my own) come into resonance with many things you write. I am sure 
the world that I create has you included.


Carlos





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Re: CS>CS gel

[Carlos P�rez]

Ode,

I like very much your weird weirdiness. Several parts of my brain and also 
joints and specially the bones I broke at different times (only speaking 
about my own) come into resonance with many things you write. I am sure the 
world that I create has you included.


Carlos


From: Ode Coyote 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>CS gel 
Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 15:00:39 -0400

At 12:28 PM 5/7/2007 -0700, you wrote:


LOL.  It sounds like you are an experienced traveler.



Once was enough, no regrets and a cool time, but never again.
 Two days later...showed up in Fed court.
 Something bled over and made the SBI, FBI, BDDN and BATF arrest me in an 
apartment while I was in jail for that "crime". [matter of opinion and 
theirs has badges, dogs and lots of guns ]
  Space/time glitchperfect alibi, couldn't a done it without busting 
the laws of physicsout of jail free card.


One thing:  If you think you can't "create" an entire and completely 
believable populated world and live in it,  that stuff will show you 
otherwise. [It's either that, or I went somewhere else ]
  I saw and did some things that I only heard stories about years later, 
so what's with that?


 How could I know that I'm not 'making up'  THIS  world? [with everyone 
who went here,  including the me I think I am]


Anyhow, they turned me loose because you can't arrest someone who isn't 
there, but they did, which is why I was in jail...not at the scene of the 
"crime" to not get arrested.


 I learned, don't get busted, it's very confusing to people and they get 
mad. [especially if they followed you around taking pictures for 6 months 
first ]


Ode



Ode Coyote  wrote:


It's a common field weed that ranges from the southern tip of florida to
the arctic circle to Oregon.
Try just beyond your lawn, or, in my case, in the green stuff I call a 
lawn.


Careful now, unless you like walking with Ents and "toasting
marshmallows" with cross bow toting gnomes for a few days at a 
stretch...or

teleporting through space time membranes with MIB on your tail. [Creepy
kritters, those! ..and the gnomes don't like them, that's why the cross
bows. Gnomes are cool, so are Ents MIB? scary and dogged! ..but pretty
slow and stupid almost like zombies]

The ticket's free, the destination...unknowable and it's a pretty long
and weird journey. [Maybe witches have steering wheels ]


..never saw any zombies anywhere.

Ode


At 03:41 PM 5/6/2007 -0700, you wrote:

>Jimson weed is both used by witches to "fly"
>
>Hey Ode,
>Airline tickets are getting rather expensive these days, not to mention
>what a harassment Home land security is.
>
>So, where do I get Jimson weed? :)
>
>
>Ode Coyote wrote:
>
>Cyanide is used to cure cancer, present in apricot and apple seeds.
>Tree frog poison is used by Shamans to "see" beyond the boundaries.
>Extract of Jimson weed is both used by witches to "fly" and as an
>antidote to most poisons. Atropine and Scopolamine, also used in
>"sleep-eze", included as an injection in the anti bio-terrorist tool 
kit.

>..so you won't die in "this" reality.
>Blood thinners are also rat poisons..table salt can be made into plastic
>explosives, dynamite for heart attacks, a whack with a willow stick to 
get

>a headache, eat a little willow bark the whack broke loose to get rid of
>it, aspirin on and on.
>Ode
>
>
>At 09:27 PM 5/5/2007 +0100, you wrote:
> >What about cyanide, or green tree frog poison? (lol) Dee
> >
> >
> >
> >---Original Message---
> >
> >
> >
> >From: Ode Coyote
> >
> >Date: 05/05/2007 16:25:58
> >
> >To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> >
> >Subject: Re: CS>CS gel
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Everything in it's own context of use and abuse.
> >
> >Everything is toxic when over done or mis-done.
> >
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> >


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Re: CS>CS gel /Honey- mold paneling

[Garnet]

Clayton Family wrote:
it is probably the mold giving you the headache- some of the  
neurotoxins do that.


More than that they suppressed our immune systems and made us quite ill. 
Not from this bathroom but from three other moldy rent houses. Mold 
fumes from some species are also carcinogenic, can kill an infant in 245 
hours as the bleed out from their lungs. It was the death of five 
infants at one hospital that triggered the CDC investigation and the 
national health care alert on mold in 1995.




Instead of bleaching it, which even the EPA says not to do, it is  
effective to remove the wood paneling all together.


It was a rent house, we moved.



Chlorine only bleaches the mold- it will still grow on wood paneling,  
it will grow even better on the cardboard covering of sheetrock.


Yep, anything with cellulose in it, which includes dust and wall paper 
paste. My aunt had sinus issues until she took the wall paper out of her 
home in a high humidity area, Seattle.


Janet



On May 6, 2007, at 9:10 PM, Garnet wrote:

Bleach is chlorine which can cause migraine headaches as it ties up  
O2. Been there after using it for several days in a row trying to get  
mold out of wood paneling in a bathroom. VERY severe migraine, 
kicking  screaming variety. I had no idea I was sensitive but now I 
avoid all  sources of chlorine, even filter my shower water when on 
city water.


The nerve gas in WWII was Chlorine, a neurotoxin. Best to stay away  
from bleach IMHO. There are alternatives that are not toxic.


Honey is indeed an ancient healing remedy. I generally reach for the  
aloe and DMSO but thanks for reminding me about honey. There are all  
kinds of great things in raw honey, hormones, minerals, etc.


Oh and I love Lavender. It is great for wasp and insect stings.

Janet


vwol...@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 5/6/2007 11:50:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time,  
miss...@prodigy.net.mx writes:

- Original Message -
From: "sol" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 11:28 AM
    Subject: Re: CS>CS gel 
 > What else offers this healing for burns? Straight lavender
essential oil,
 > applied liberally to a burn will do the same thing--no evidence
of burn
 > the next day (or even in a couple hours) and it has the added
benefit of
 > stopping the pain almost immediately.  Depending on the  severity
of a
 > burn, I've had the same results from lavender oil diluted in
apricot oil.
 > The only time it took a while to stop the pain was when I  
branded

my thumb
 > on the lid handle of a roaster fresh from a 400 degree oven. In
that case
 > it took about 20 -30 min to stop the pain. Had a tiny bit of
tenderness
 > from that one for a few days, and it took a while for the deep
brand line
 > to grow out.
 > Lavender essential oil does the same trick for bites and  
bruises.

 >
 > sol
 >
 > Lisa Shepherd wrote:
 >>  I also had an experience when frying chicken at home one  
time, the

 >> grease, bubbling and very hot, splashed when a piece of  chicken
i was
 >> turning slipped from the tongs i used to turn them with, this
splashed
 >> over my entire hand, even the tender backside, both cases i  
used

bleach
 >> immediatly, didnt kill the pain, but i had NO EVIDENCE of a  
burn

the next
 >> day, both cases would have scarred horribly had i not used
bleach. I
 >> witnessed what grease burns untended will do, i saw a woman  
come

into the
 >> emergency room once with severe grease burns, holding her  hand,
or the
 >> remains of it, in a tub of water, white skin floating all  
around

it, i
 >> still remember hearing her screams in the waiting room, they
scraped her
 >> hand to remove the majority of the burn.
 >>
*I guess I can believe this but it was the old bleach ..without  
perfumes..right?
I have tried and tried but that no longer seems to be 
available...not  in any store I have looked.

 One thing that I found helpful is honey.
For years I earned my living as a Housekeeper/Cook.
Lots of Burns come with that job:)...I must have just read about  
honey healing burns because when I touched the hot oven rack with 
the  skin of my arm...it burned badly..and I automatically reached 
for the  honey and poured it over my arm.
At first I thought I had made a bad decision because the pain became  
worse..quite a bit worse.
But in a minute it began to subside and cooled and I never scarred  
from a burn that really should have left a doozy.

Healed beautifully.   V.
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Re: CS>CS gel /Honey- mold paneling

[Clayton Family]

it is probably the mold giving you the headache- some of the  
neurotoxins do that.


Instead of bleaching it, which even the EPA says not to do, it is  
effective to remove the wood paneling all together.


Chlorine only bleaches the mold- it will still grow on wood paneling,  
it will grow even better on the cardboard covering of sheetrock.



On May 6, 2007, at 9:10 PM, Garnet wrote:

Bleach is chlorine which can cause migraine headaches as it ties up  
O2. Been there after using it for several days in a row trying to get  
mold out of wood paneling in a bathroom. VERY severe migraine, kicking  
screaming variety. I had no idea I was sensitive but now I avoid all  
sources of chlorine, even filter my shower water when on city water.


The nerve gas in WWII was Chlorine, a neurotoxin. Best to stay away  
from bleach IMHO. There are alternatives that are not toxic.


Honey is indeed an ancient healing remedy. I generally reach for the  
aloe and DMSO but thanks for reminding me about honey. There are all  
kinds of great things in raw honey, hormones, minerals, etc.


Oh and I love Lavender. It is great for wasp and insect stings.

Janet


vwol...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 5/6/2007 11:50:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time,  
miss...@prodigy.net.mx writes:

- Original Message -
From: "sol" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 11:28 AM
    Subject: Re: CS>CS gel 
 > What else offers this healing for burns? Straight lavender
essential oil,
 > applied liberally to a burn will do the same thing--no evidence
of burn
 > the next day (or even in a couple hours) and it has the added
benefit of
 > stopping the pain almost immediately.  Depending on the  
severity

of a
 > burn, I've had the same results from lavender oil diluted in
apricot oil.
 > The only time it took a while to stop the pain was when I  
branded

my thumb
 > on the lid handle of a roaster fresh from a 400 degree oven. In
that case
 > it took about 20 -30 min to stop the pain. Had a tiny bit of
tenderness
 > from that one for a few days, and it took a while for the deep
brand line
 > to grow out.
 > Lavender essential oil does the same trick for bites and  
bruises.

 >
 > sol
 >
 > Lisa Shepherd wrote:
 >>  I also had an experience when frying chicken at home one  
time, the
 >> grease, bubbling and very hot, splashed when a piece of  
chicken

i was
 >> turning slipped from the tongs i used to turn them with, this
splashed
 >> over my entire hand, even the tender backside, both cases i  
used

bleach
 >> immediatly, didnt kill the pain, but i had NO EVIDENCE of a  
burn

the next
 >> day, both cases would have scarred horribly had i not used
bleach. I
 >> witnessed what grease burns untended will do, i saw a woman  
come

into the
 >> emergency room once with severe grease burns, holding her  
hand,

or the
 >> remains of it, in a tub of water, white skin floating all  
around

it, i
 >> still remember hearing her screams in the waiting room, they
scraped her
 >> hand to remove the majority of the burn.
 >>
*I guess I can believe this but it was the old bleach ..without  
perfumes..right?
I have tried and tried but that no longer seems to be available...not  
in any store I have looked.

 One thing that I found helpful is honey.
For years I earned my living as a Housekeeper/Cook.
Lots of Burns come with that job:)...I must have just read about  
honey healing burns because when I touched the hot oven rack with the  
skin of my arm...it burned badly..and I automatically reached for the  
honey and poured it over my arm.
At first I thought I had made a bad decision because the pain became  
worse..quite a bit worse.
But in a minute it began to subside and cooled and I never scarred  
from a burn that really should have left a doozy.

Healed beautifully.   V.
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Re: CS>CS gel

[Ode Coyote]

At 12:28 PM 5/7/2007 -0700, you wrote:


LOL.  It sounds like you are an experienced traveler.



Once was enough, no regrets and a cool time, but never again.
 Two days later...showed up in Fed court.
 Something bled over and made the SBI, FBI, BDDN and BATF arrest me in an 
apartment while I was in jail for that "crime". [matter of opinion and 
theirs has badges, dogs and lots of guns ]
  Space/time glitchperfect alibi, couldn't a done it without busting 
the laws of physicsout of jail free card.


One thing:  If you think you can't "create" an entire and completely 
believable populated world and live in it,  that stuff will show you 
otherwise. [It's either that, or I went somewhere else ]
  I saw and did some things that I only heard stories about years later, 
so what's with that?


 How could I know that I'm not 'making up'  THIS  world? [with everyone 
who went here,  including the me I think I am]


Anyhow, they turned me loose because you can't arrest someone who isn't 
there, but they did, which is why I was in jail...not at the scene of the 
"crime" to not get arrested.


 I learned, don't get busted, it's very confusing to people and they get 
mad. [especially if they followed you around taking pictures for 6 months 
first ]


Ode



Ode Coyote  wrote:


It's a common field weed that ranges from the southern tip of florida to
the arctic circle to Oregon.
Try just beyond your lawn, or, in my case, in the green stuff I call a lawn.

Careful now, unless you like walking with Ents and "toasting
marshmallows" with cross bow toting gnomes for a few days at a stretch...or
teleporting through space time membranes with MIB on your tail. [Creepy
kritters, those! ..and the gnomes don't like them, that's why the cross
bows. Gnomes are cool, so are Ents MIB? scary and dogged! ..but pretty
slow and stupid almost like zombies]

The ticket's free, the destination...unknowable and it's a pretty long
and weird journey. [Maybe witches have steering wheels ]


..never saw any zombies anywhere.

Ode


At 03:41 PM 5/6/2007 -0700, you wrote:

>Jimson weed is both used by witches to "fly"
>
>Hey Ode,
>Airline tickets are getting rather expensive these days, not to mention
>what a harassment Home land security is.
>
>So, where do I get Jimson weed? :)
>
>
>Ode Coyote wrote:
>
>Cyanide is used to cure cancer, present in apricot and apple seeds.
>Tree frog poison is used by Shamans to "see" beyond the boundaries.
>Extract of Jimson weed is both used by witches to "fly" and as an
>antidote to most poisons. Atropine and Scopolamine, also used in
>"sleep-eze", included as an injection in the anti bio-terrorist tool kit.
>..so you won't die in "this" reality.
>Blood thinners are also rat poisons..table salt can be made into plastic
>explosives, dynamite for heart attacks, a whack with a willow stick to get
>a headache, eat a little willow bark the whack broke loose to get rid of
>it, aspirin on and on.
>Ode
>
>
>At 09:27 PM 5/5/2007 +0100, you wrote:
> >What about cyanide, or green tree frog poison? (lol) Dee
> >
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Re: CS>CS gel

[Carol Ann]

LOL.  It sounds like you are an experienced traveler. 

Ode Coyote  wrote:  

It's a common field weed that ranges from the southern tip of florida to 
the arctic circle to Oregon.
Try just beyond your lawn, or, in my case, in the green stuff I call a lawn.

Careful now, unless you like walking with Ents and "toasting 
marshmallows" with cross bow toting gnomes for a few days at a stretch...or 
teleporting through space time membranes with MIB on your tail. [Creepy 
kritters, those! ..and the gnomes don't like them, that's why the cross 
bows. Gnomes are cool, so are Ents MIB? scary and dogged! ..but pretty 
slow and stupid almost like zombies]

The ticket's free, the destination...unknowable and it's a pretty long 
and weird journey. [Maybe witches have steering wheels ]


..never saw any zombies anywhere.

Ode


At 03:41 PM 5/6/2007 -0700, you wrote:

>Jimson weed is both used by witches to "fly"
>
>Hey Ode,
>Airline tickets are getting rather expensive these days, not to mention 
>what a harassment Home land security is.
>
>So, where do I get Jimson weed? :)
>
>
>Ode Coyote wrote:
>
>Cyanide is used to cure cancer, present in apricot and apple seeds.
>Tree frog poison is used by Shamans to "see" beyond the boundaries.
>Extract of Jimson weed is both used by witches to "fly" and as an
>antidote to most poisons. Atropine and Scopolamine, also used in
>"sleep-eze", included as an injection in the anti bio-terrorist tool kit.
>..so you won't die in "this" reality.
>Blood thinners are also rat poisons..table salt can be made into plastic
>explosives, dynamite for heart attacks, a whack with a willow stick to get
>a headache, eat a little willow bark the whack broke loose to get rid of
>it, aspirin on and on.
>Ode
>
>
>At 09:27 PM 5/5/2007 +0100, you wrote:
> >What about cyanide, or green tree frog poison? (lol) Dee
> >
> >
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RE: CS>CS gel

[Dan Nave]

 http://www.insidepulse.com/articles/43273

How to make Zombies (and Ginger Baked Pears).

Dan

-Original Message-
From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] 
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 11:46 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>CS gel 



   It's a common field weed that ranges from the southern tip of florida
to the arctic circle to Oregon.
  Try just beyond your lawn, or, in my case, in the green stuff I call a
lawn.

   Careful now, unless you like walking with Ents and "toasting
marshmallows" with cross bow toting gnomes for a few days at a
stretch...or teleporting through space time membranes with MIB on your
tail. [Creepy kritters, those! ..and the gnomes don't like them, that's
why the cross 
bows. Gnomes are cool, so are EntsMIB?  scary and dogged!  ..but
pretty 
slow and stupid almost like zombies]

  The ticket's free, the destination...unknowable and it's a pretty long
and weird journey.  [Maybe witches have steering wheels ]


..never saw any zombies anywhere.

Ode


At 03:41 PM 5/6/2007 -0700, you wrote:

>Jimson weed is both used by witches to "fly"
>
>Hey Ode,
>Airline tickets are getting rather expensive these days, not to mention

>what a harassment Home land security is.
>
>So, where do I get Jimson weed? :)
>
>
>Ode Coyote  wrote:
>
>Cyanide is used to cure cancer, present in apricot and apple seeds.
>Tree frog poison is used by Shamans to "see" beyond the boundaries.
>Extract of Jimson weed is both used by witches to "fly" and as an
>antidote to most poisons. Atropine and Scopolamine, also used in
>"sleep-eze", included as an injection in the anti bio-terrorist tool
kit.
>..so you won't die in "this" reality.
>Blood thinners are also rat poisons..table salt can be made into
plastic
>explosives, dynamite for heart attacks, a whack with a willow stick to
get
>a headache, eat a little willow bark the whack broke loose to get rid
of
>it, aspirin on and on.
>Ode
>
>
>At 09:27 PM 5/5/2007 +0100, you wrote:
> >What about cyanide, or green tree frog poison? (lol) Dee
> >
> >
> >
> >---Original Message---
> >
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> >
> >From: Ode Coyote
> >
> >Date: 05/05/2007 16:25:58
> >
> >To: silver-list@eskimo.com
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> >
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> >
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>
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>Check out 
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Re: CS>CS gel

[Dee]

Sounds pretty cool to me Ode!  Dee 

 

---Original Message--- 

 

From: Ode Coyote 

Date: 05/07/07 18:00:22 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: Re: CS>CS gel 

 

 

 

 

Careful now, unless you like walking with Ents and "toasting 

Marshmallows" with cross bow toting gnomes for a few days at a stretch... 

Ode 

 

 

At 03:41 PM 5/6/2007 -0700, you wrote: 

 

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Re: CS>CS gel

[Ode Coyote]

  It's a common field weed that ranges from the southern tip of florida to 
the arctic circle to Oregon.

 Try just beyond your lawn, or, in my case, in the green stuff I call a lawn.

  Careful now, unless you like walking with Ents and "toasting 
marshmallows" with cross bow toting gnomes for a few days at a stretch...or 
teleporting through space time membranes with MIB on your tail. [Creepy 
kritters, those! ..and the gnomes don't like them, that's why the cross 
bows. Gnomes are cool, so are EntsMIB?  scary and dogged!  ..but pretty 
slow and stupid almost like zombies]


 The ticket's free, the destination...unknowable and it's a pretty long 
and weird journey.  [Maybe witches have steering wheels ]



..never saw any zombies anywhere.

Ode


At 03:41 PM 5/6/2007 -0700, you wrote:


Jimson weed is both used by witches to "fly"

Hey Ode,
Airline tickets are getting rather expensive these days, not to mention 
what a harassment Home land security is.


So, where do I get Jimson weed? :)


Ode Coyote  wrote:

Cyanide is used to cure cancer, present in apricot and apple seeds.
Tree frog poison is used by Shamans to "see" beyond the boundaries.
Extract of Jimson weed is both used by witches to "fly" and as an
antidote to most poisons. Atropine and Scopolamine, also used in
"sleep-eze", included as an injection in the anti bio-terrorist tool kit.
..so you won't die in "this" reality.
Blood thinners are also rat poisons..table salt can be made into plastic
explosives, dynamite for heart attacks, a whack with a willow stick to get
a headache, eat a little willow bark the whack broke loose to get rid of
it, aspirin on and on.
Ode


At 09:27 PM 5/5/2007 +0100, you wrote:
>What about cyanide, or green tree frog poison? (lol) Dee
>
>
>
>---Original Message-------
>
>
>
>From: Ode Coyote
>
>Date: 05/05/2007 16:25:58
>
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>
>Subject: Re: CS>CS gel
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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>
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Re: CS>CS gel

[Dee]

I don't think I would have liked to be the one who had to determine the dose
sizes though (lol) Dee 

 

---Original Message--- 

 

Cyanide is used to cure cancer, present in apricot and apple seeds. 

Tree frog poison is used by Shamans to "see" beyond the boundaries. 

Extract of Jimson weed is both used by witches to "fly" and as an 

Antidote to most poisons. Atropine and Scopolamine, also used in 

"sleep-eze", included as an injection in the anti bio-terrorist tool kit. 

.so you won't die in "this" reality. 

 

Blood thinners are also rat poisons..table salt can be made into plastic 

Explosives, dynamite for heart attacks, a whack with a willow stick to get 

A headache, eat a little willow bark the whack broke loose to get rid of 

It, aspirin on and on. 

 

Ode 

 

 

 


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Re: CS>CS gel /Honey

[Garnet]

Bleach is chlorine which can cause migraine headaches as it ties up O2. 
Been there after using it for several days in a row trying to get mold 
out of wood paneling in a bathroom. VERY severe migraine, kicking 
screaming variety. I had no idea I was sensitive but now I avoid all 
sources of chlorine, even filter my shower water when on city water.


The nerve gas in WWII was Chlorine, a neurotoxin. Best to stay away from 
bleach IMHO. There are alternatives that are not toxic.


Honey is indeed an ancient healing remedy. I generally reach for the 
aloe and DMSO but thanks for reminding me about honey. There are all 
kinds of great things in raw honey, hormones, minerals, etc.


Oh and I love Lavender. It is great for wasp and insect stings.

Janet


vwol...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 5/6/2007 11:50:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
miss...@prodigy.net.mx writes:



- Original Message -
From: "sol" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 11:28 AM
    Subject: Re: CS>CS gel 


 > What else offers this healing for burns? Straight lavender
essential oil,
 > applied liberally to a burn will do the same thing--no evidence
of burn
 > the next day (or even in a couple hours) and it has the added
benefit of
 > stopping the pain almost immediately.  Depending on the severity
of a
 > burn, I've had the same results from lavender oil diluted in
apricot oil.
 > The only time it took a while to stop the pain was when I branded
my thumb
 > on the lid handle of a roaster fresh from a 400 degree oven. In
that case
 > it took about 20 -30 min to stop the pain. Had a tiny bit of
tenderness
 > from that one for a few days, and it took a while for the deep
brand line
 > to grow out.
 > Lavender essential oil does the same trick for bites and bruises.
 >
 > sol
 >
 > Lisa Shepherd wrote:
 >>  I also had an experience when frying chicken at home one time, the
 >> grease, bubbling and very hot, splashed when a piece of chicken
i was
 >> turning slipped from the tongs i used to turn them with, this
splashed
 >> over my entire hand, even the tender backside, both cases i used
bleach
 >> immediatly, didnt kill the pain, but i had NO EVIDENCE of a burn
the next
 >> day, both cases would have scarred horribly had i not used
bleach. I
 >> witnessed what grease burns untended will do, i saw a woman come
into the
 >> emergency room once with severe grease burns, holding her hand,
or the
 >> remains of it, in a tub of water, white skin floating all around
it, i
 >> still remember hearing her screams in the waiting room, they
scraped her
 >> hand to remove the majority of the burn.
 >>

*I guess I can believe this but it was the old bleach ..without 
perfumes..right?
I have tried and tried but that no longer seems to be available...not in 
any store I have looked.
 
One thing that I found helpful is honey.

For years I earned my living as a Housekeeper/Cook.
Lots of Burns come with that job:)...I must have just read about honey 
healing burns because when I touched the hot oven rack with the skin of 
my arm...it burned badly..and I automatically reached for the honey and 
poured it over my arm.
At first I thought I had made a bad decision because the pain became 
worse..quite a bit worse.
But in a minute it began to subside and cooled and I never scarred from 
a burn that really should have left a doozy.

Healed beautifully.   V.




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Re: CS>CS gel

[Jodi W Menard]

Carol
Ann wrote on 5/6/2007, 5:41 PM:



  Jimson weed is both used
by witches to "fly"
   
   
   
  Hey Ode,
   
  Airline tickets are
getting rather expensive these days, not to mention what a harassment
Home land security is.
   
   
   
  So, where do I get Jimson
weed? :)

[LOL]   

[grin]  Thanks for the laugh Carol Anne.   

Jodi




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Re: CS>CS gel

[Carol Ann]

Jimson weed is both used by witches to "fly"
   
  Hey Ode,
  Airline tickets are getting rather expensive these days, not to mention what 
a harassment Home land security is.
   
  So, where do I get Jimson weed? :)
   

Ode Coyote  wrote:
  

Cyanide is used to cure cancer, present in apricot and apple seeds.
Tree frog poison is used by Shamans to "see" beyond the boundaries.
Extract of Jimson weed is both used by witches to "fly" and as an 
antidote to most poisons. Atropine and Scopolamine, also used in 
"sleep-eze", included as an injection in the anti bio-terrorist tool kit.
..so you won't die in "this" reality.

Blood thinners are also rat poisons..table salt can be made into plastic 
explosives, dynamite for heart attacks, a whack with a willow stick to get 
a headache, eat a little willow bark the whack broke loose to get rid of 
it, aspirin on and on.

Ode



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Re: CS>CS gel

[Carlos P�rez]

Can you please tell me what do you call bleach? Is it Sodium Hypochlorite? 
Is it old type bleach made from wood ash?


Thank you

Carlos



From: Lisa Shepherd 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>CS gel 
Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 04:12:29 -0700 (PDT)

Why not? I mean with all the poisons in the environment that we are exposed 
to today, I dont think it would even be noticed, so go right ahead. Use 
cyanide.
  On the other hand, or rather reguarding the hand, if you have ever been 
close to a grill, hot from cooking, and realize the temp it is heated to, 
add grease, you have to have a lot of grease to block a grill, then along 
with the fact the residue from the block also holds grease and sticks to 
everything, paints an ugly picture. I was looking at 
losing many layers of hide from my hand, which may well have meant I would 
even be off work for some days, . I also had an 
experience when frying chicken at home one time, the grease, bubbling and 
very hot, splashed when a piece of chicken i was turning slipped from the 
tongs i used to turn them with, this splashed over my entire hand, even the 
tender backside, both cases i used bleach immediatly, didnt kill the pain, 
but i had NO EVIDENCE of a burn the next day, both cases would have scarred 
horribly had i not used bleach. I witnessed what grease burns untended will 
do, i saw a woman
 come into the emergency room once with severe grease burns, holding her 
hand, or the remains of it, in a tub of water, white skin floating all 
around it, i still remember hearing her screams in the waiting room, they 
scraped her hand to remove the majority of the burn.
  Whether it is an exhaust burn from a bike, or a severe sunburn that 
leaves you unable to wear clothes for days, this occasionally> or grease spalshes on skin during cooking, or even from 
a motor, fire or whatever, bleach will reverse the damage if applied 
immediately, and in some cases at all when my daughter 
couldnt wear clothes the second day, i drew a bleach bath, she was fine in 
a few hours and attended school on monday just fine, no irritations.
  And yes, bleach isnt good for us, but how many of us have drank it in 
our water for most of our lives? or used it on floors and breathed the 
vapor, or washed clothes and had our hands in it? I didnt mean to use it 
inwisely, or everyday in these instructions, I would seriously hope if ever 
only once or twice, and God forbid you ever had a serious burn on a child, 
but if you did, would you prefer the scars? on your babies? Would you like 
to go have your hand scraped? Serious accidents call for serious remedies, 
sometimes silver cant work fast enough, bleach will!  But in extreme burns, 
where scarring will occur, bleach will reverse all unripped or torn skin 
that was damaged by burn, and you WILL have a total healing within 24 
HOURS, what else offers this?
  It is your choice Dee, I truly hope you never have a child that has a 
scarring burn, but if you ever do, or if you ever have a severe grease 
burn, it is your choice, you have every right in the world to endure very 
painful burns for days and to have the scars, they are yours, It is your 
choice.


  Though, honestly, I would seriously advise against the cyanide, its 
intended design was to kill.



Dee  wrote:
  What about cyanide, or green tree frog poison? (lol) Dee



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Date: 05/05/2007 16:25:58

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Everything is toxic when over done or mis-done.

Nothing is toxic when under done or done correctly.


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Re: CS>CS gel

[Carol Ann]

Lavender is exceptionl for cuts, bruises, infections as well.  Actually, its 
outstanding. 

sol  wrote:  What else offers this healing for burns? 
Straight lavender essential 
oil, applied liberally to a burn will do the same thing--no evidence of 
burn the next day (or even in a couple hours) and it has the added 
benefit of stopping the pain almost immediately. Depending on the 
severity of a burn, I've had the same results from lavender oil diluted 
in apricot oil. The only time it took a while to stop the pain was when 
I branded my thumb on the lid handle of a roaster fresh from a 400 
degree oven. In that case it took about 20 -30 min to stop the pain. Had 
a tiny bit of tenderness from that one for a few days, and it took a 
while for the deep brand line to grow out.
Lavender essential oil does the same trick for bites and bruises.

sol

Lisa Shepherd wrote:
> I also had an experience when frying chicken at home one time, the 
> grease, bubbling and very hot, splashed when a piece of chicken i was 
> turning slipped from the tongs i used to turn them with, this splashed 
> over my entire hand, even the tender backside, both cases i used 
> bleach immediatly, didnt kill the pain, but i had NO EVIDENCE of a 
> burn the next day, both cases would have scarred horribly had i not 
> used bleach. I witnessed what grease burns untended will do, i saw a 
> woman come into the emergency room once with severe grease burns, 
> holding her hand, or the remains of it, in a tub of water, white skin 
> floating all around it, i still remember hearing her screams in the 
> waiting room, they scraped her hand to remove the majority of the burn.
>


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[Vwolf21]

 
In a message dated 5/6/2007 11:50:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
miss...@prodigy.net.mx writes:


- Original Message - 
From: "sol" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: CS>CS gel 


> What else offers this healing for burns? Straight lavender essential oil, 
> applied liberally to a burn will do the same thing--no evidence of burn 
> the next day (or even in a couple hours) and it has the added benefit of 
> stopping the pain almost immediately.  Depending on the severity of a 
> burn, I've had the same results from lavender oil diluted in apricot oil. 
> The only time it took a while to stop the pain was when I branded my thumb 
> on the lid handle of a roaster fresh from a 400 degree oven. In that case 
> it took about 20 -30 min to stop the pain. Had a tiny bit of tenderness 
> from that one for a few days, and it took a while for the deep brand line 
> to grow out.
> Lavender essential oil does the same trick for bites and bruises.
>
> sol
>
> Lisa Shepherd wrote:
>>  I also had an experience when frying chicken at home one time, the 
>> grease, bubbling and very hot, splashed when a piece of chicken i was 
>> turning slipped from the tongs i used to turn them with, this splashed 
>> over my entire hand, even the tender backside, both cases i used bleach 
>> immediatly, didnt kill the pain, but i had NO EVIDENCE of a burn the next 
>> day, both cases would have scarred horribly had i not used bleach. I 
>> witnessed what grease burns untended will do, i saw a woman come into the 
>> emergency room once with severe grease burns, holding her hand, or the 
>> remains of it, in a tub of water, white skin floating all around it, i 
>> still remember hearing her screams in the waiting room, they scraped her 
>> hand to remove the majority of the burn.
>>

*I guess I can believe this but it was the old bleach ..without 
perfumes..right?
I have tried and tried but that no longer seems to be available...not in any 
store I have looked.
 
One thing that I found helpful is honey.
For years I earned my living as a Housekeeper/Cook.
Lots of Burns come with that job:)...I must have just read about honey 
healing burns because when I touched the hot oven rack with the skin of my 
arm...it 
burned badly..and I automatically reached for the honey and poured it over my 
arm.
At first I thought I had made a bad decision because the pain became 
worse..quite a bit worse.
But in a minute it began to subside and cooled and I never scarred from a 
burn that really should have left a doozy.
Healed beautifully.   V.



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Re: CS>CS gel

[William Missett]

discomfort.  I couldn't 
believe it then, and I still can't believe it.


   In the intervening years, I have suffered several other serious 
burns - from grabbing a red-hot exhaust pipe on my home heater, from a 
splash of boiling oil, from scalding water.  Each time, I bit my lip and put 
my hand back into the heat, either over the stove or in steaming hot water. 
Each time, the pain quickly disappeared.  This mysterious burn remedy has 
worked every time.


   I have taught this technique to others, those few brave souls 
willing to believe me, and they have used it with equal success.  A friend 
of mine who is an at-home jeweler used it after suffering a nasty burn, and 
he now swears by it, and has taught it to other jewelers in Taxco, Mexico.


   I have discussed this with hundreds of people, but only one said 
she had heard anything like it.  She witnessed the incident as a child.  She 
saw her grandfather, working on the family stove when it exploded in a ball 
of flame, thrust his badly burned hand and arm into a pot of water boiling 
on top of the stove to take away the pain.


   She, like Jonas Barrett, was African-American.  Perhaps this is 
a clue to the source of this folk medicine remedy.


   In the intervening years I've devoted numerous hours thinking 
about this incident, and trying to analyze this miraculously improbable burn 
remedy.   I believe the answer somehow lies in the release of the shock of 
the burn.  By heating the surrounding flesh to near-burn intensity, the 
borderline between the burn and the surrounding flesh is erased, and this 
release somehow nullifies the pain.  That's my theory, and I'm sticking to 
it.


   Over the years, I have wanted to present this strange but true 
story to the public to seek answers, and to let others know of its 
effectiveness.  Hopefully, someone can provide the proper answers to this 
medical mystery.




(About the author:  Bill Missett is a retired U.S. daily newspaper editor, 
living the life of Riley in a small fishing village in Southern Mexico famed 
for its big surf and big fish.)


- Original Message - 
From: "sol" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: CS>CS gel 


What else offers this healing for burns? Straight lavender essential oil, 
applied liberally to a burn will do the same thing--no evidence of burn 
the next day (or even in a couple hours) and it has the added benefit of 
stopping the pain almost immediately.  Depending on the severity of a 
burn, I've had the same results from lavender oil diluted in apricot oil. 
The only time it took a while to stop the pain was when I branded my thumb 
on the lid handle of a roaster fresh from a 400 degree oven. In that case 
it took about 20 -30 min to stop the pain. Had a tiny bit of tenderness 
from that one for a few days, and it took a while for the deep brand line 
to grow out.

Lavender essential oil does the same trick for bites and bruises.

sol

Lisa Shepherd wrote:
 I also had an experience when frying chicken at home one time, the 
grease, bubbling and very hot, splashed when a piece of chicken i was 
turning slipped from the tongs i used to turn them with, this splashed 
over my entire hand, even the tender backside, both cases i used bleach 
immediatly, didnt kill the pain, but i had NO EVIDENCE of a burn the next 
day, both cases would have scarred horribly had i not used bleach. I 
witnessed what grease burns untended will do, i saw a woman come into the 
emergency room once with severe grease burns, holding her hand, or the 
remains of it, in a tub of water, white skin floating all around it, i 
still remember hearing her screams in the waiting room, they scraped her 
hand to remove the majority of the burn.





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Re: CS>CS gel

[sol]

What else offers this healing for burns? Straight lavender essential 
oil, applied liberally to a burn will do the same thing--no evidence of 
burn the next day (or even in a couple hours) and it has the added 
benefit of stopping the pain almost immediately.  Depending on the 
severity of a burn, I've had the same results from lavender oil diluted 
in apricot oil. The only time it took a while to stop the pain was when 
I branded my thumb on the lid handle of a roaster fresh from a 400 
degree oven. In that case it took about 20 -30 min to stop the pain. Had 
a tiny bit of tenderness from that one for a few days, and it took a 
while for the deep brand line to grow out.

Lavender essential oil does the same trick for bites and bruises.

sol

Lisa Shepherd wrote:
 I also had an experience when frying chicken at home one time, the 
grease, bubbling and very hot, splashed when a piece of chicken i was 
turning slipped from the tongs i used to turn them with, this splashed 
over my entire hand, even the tender backside, both cases i used 
bleach immediatly, didnt kill the pain, but i had NO EVIDENCE of a 
burn the next day, both cases would have scarred horribly had i not 
used bleach. I witnessed what grease burns untended will do, i saw a 
woman come into the emergency room once with severe grease burns, 
holding her hand, or the remains of it, in a tub of water, white skin 
floating all around it, i still remember hearing her screams in the 
waiting room, they scraped her hand to remove the majority of the burn.





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Re: CS>CS gel

[Ode Coyote]

  Cyanide is used to cure cancer, present in apricot and apple seeds.
 Tree frog poison is used by Shamans to "see" beyond the boundaries.
 Extract of Jimson weed is both used by witches to "fly" and as an 
antidote to most poisons. Atropine and Scopolamine, also used in 
"sleep-eze", included as an injection in the anti bio-terrorist tool kit.

..so you won't die in "this" reality.

 Blood thinners are also rat poisons..table salt can be made into plastic 
explosives, dynamite for heart attacks, a whack with a willow stick to get 
a headache, eat a little willow bark the whack broke loose to get rid of 
it, aspirin on and on.


Ode



At 09:27 PM 5/5/2007 +0100, you wrote:


What about cyanide, or green tree frog poison?  (lol) Dee



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From: Ode Coyote

Date: 05/05/2007 16:25:58

To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Subject: Re: CS>CS gel





Everything in it's own context of use and abuse.

Everything is toxic when over done or mis-done.

Nothing is toxic when under done or done correctly.


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Re: CS>CS gel

[Lisa Shepherd]

Why not? I mean with all the poisons in the environment that we are exposed to 
today, I dont think it would even be noticed, so go right ahead. Use cyanide.
  On the other hand, or rather reguarding the hand, if you have ever been close 
to a grill, hot from cooking, and realize the temp it is heated to, add grease, 
you have to have a lot of grease to block a grill, then along with the fact the 
residue from the block also holds grease and sticks to everything, paints an ugly picture. I was looking at losing many layers of hide from 
my hand, which may well have meant I would even be off work for some days, 
. I also had an experience when frying chicken at 
home one time, the grease, bubbling and very hot, splashed when a piece of 
chicken i was turning slipped from the tongs i used to turn them with, this 
splashed over my entire hand, even the tender backside, both cases i used 
bleach immediatly, didnt kill the pain, but i had NO EVIDENCE of a burn the 
next day, both cases would have scarred horribly had i not used bleach. I 
witnessed what grease burns untended will do, i saw a woman
 come into the emergency room once with severe grease burns, holding her hand, 
or the remains of it, in a tub of water, white skin floating all around it, i 
still remember hearing her screams in the waiting room, they scraped her hand 
to remove the majority of the burn. 
  Whether it is an exhaust burn from a bike, or a severe sunburn that leaves 
you unable to wear clothes for days,  or grease spalshes on skin during cooking, or even from a motor, 
fire or whatever, bleach will reverse the damage if applied immediately, and in 
some cases at all when my daughter couldnt wear clothes the 
second day, i drew a bleach bath, she was fine in a few hours and attended 
school on monday just fine, no irritations.
  And yes, bleach isnt good for us, but how many of us have drank it in our 
water for most of our lives? or used it on floors and breathed the vapor, or 
washed clothes and had our hands in it? I didnt mean to use it inwisely, or 
everyday in these instructions, I would seriously hope if ever only once or 
twice, and God forbid you ever had a serious burn on a child, but if you did, 
would you prefer the scars? on your babies? Would you like to go have your hand 
scraped? Serious accidents call for serious remedies, sometimes silver cant 
work fast enough, bleach will!  But in extreme burns, where scarring will 
occur, bleach will reverse all unripped or torn skin that was damaged by burn, 
and you WILL have a total healing within 24 HOURS, what else offers this?
  It is your choice Dee, I truly hope you never have a child that has a 
scarring burn, but if you ever do, or if you ever have a severe grease burn, it 
is your choice, you have every right in the world to endure very painful burns 
for days and to have the scars, they are yours, It is your choice.
   
  Though, honestly, I would seriously advise against the cyanide, its intended 
design was to kill.
  

Dee  wrote:
  What about cyanide, or green tree frog poison? (lol) Dee 



---Original Message--- 



From: Ode Coyote 

Date: 05/05/2007 16:25:58 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: Re: CS>CS gel 





Everything in it's own context of use and abuse. 

Everything is toxic when over done or mis-done. 

Nothing is toxic when under done or done correctly. 


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What about cyanide, or green tree frog poison?  (lol) Dee 

 

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From: Ode Coyote 

Date: 05/05/2007 16:25:58 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: Re: CS>CS gel 

 

 

Everything in it's own context of use and abuse. 

Everything is toxic when over done or mis-done. 

Nothing is toxic when under done or done correctly. 


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[Dee]

I don't think I would want to try it!  I wouldn't trust much the authorities
say either.Dee 

 

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Oh no.. Bleach (un perfumed) can be used to kill the bacteria in water ready


For drinking. In small amounts of course. 

See #3 in this list: 

 

http://www.epa.gov/safewater/faq/emerg.html 

 

 

 

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[Jason]

> -Original Message-
> From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org]
> Sent: 04 May 2007 18:16
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>CS gel 
>
>
> But bleach is the most toxic thing on the planet isn't it?  Dee


Oh no.. Bleach (un perfumed) can be used to kill the bacteria in water ready
for drinking.  In small amounts of course.
See #3 in this list:

http://www.epa.gov/safewater/faq/emerg.html



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[Ode Coyote]

 Everything in it's own context of use and abuse.
 Everything is toxic when over done or mis-done.
 Nothing is toxic when under done or done correctly.
 It's all tools for achieving your hidden intent.
..and in the end
Life is its' own death sentence.
 Short and fun, long and miserable? [Short and miserable, long and 
fun]  It doesn't care.

 When the movie is over, it's over Beulah the Buzzer sez, "Yo time is UP"
end of his/her-story..write a new one.
 Pick a gender, pick a planet, make something up and live it...again.
 Be not afraidunless that serves your purpose.
 If it does, be VERY afraid.  It's OK either way.

eDramamine: For eMotion Sickness ?

ode


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But bleach is the most toxic thing on the planet isn't it?  Dee



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Date: 04/05/2007 14:25:26

To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Subject: Re: CS>CS gel



In an emergency, when severe burns have occurred, bleach it. Bleach 
reverses the entire burn event.



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Re: CS>CS gel

[Dee]

But bleach is the most toxic thing on the planet isn't it?  Dee 

 

---Original Message--- 

 

From: Lisa Shepherd 

Date: 04/05/2007 14:25:26 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: Re: CS>CS gel 

 

In an emergency, when severe burns have occurred, bleach it. Bleach reverses 
the entire burn event. 


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Re: CS>CS gel

[Lisa Shepherd]

In an emergency, when severe burns have occured, bleach it. Bleach reverses the 
entire burn event. I learned this when working as a short order cook, I was 
blocking the grill  and my hand slipped off the block, quite close 
to the front, it slid on the grill from front all the way to the back due to my 
momentum, i couldnt stop. When my co-worker saw this, she grabbed my arm and 
insisted I follow her to the sink, where she immediately submersed my hand in 
straight bleach. It still burned for awhile, quite intensly, but the next day 
you could not tell I'd had any kind of burn at all. 
  In later years, due to this experience, I have used bleach or a mild water 
bleach solution on many things. When sunburned, it heals it completely, even 
hours after the burn. The one down side I have found, the sunburn does not tan 
out after a bleach bath,  so if the 
person is burned in an attempt to suntan, they wont keep the tan if they bleach 
it.
  This isnt the best home remedy, however I have never seen it 
fail to completely heal all burns entirely, no scaly skin later, no reddness 
the next day, nothing, it takes a few hours, but the burns heal completely 
everytime. No scarring whatsoever. Im sure in extreme cases or where the burn 
has removed skin prior to doing the bleach treatment, there would be some sore 
on the surface, or scarring if it were bad enough, but as long as the skin 
surface hasnt been compromised, it works everytime.
  Another tip, if you do have a burn, no matter what you treat it with, 
hemmoroid medicines kill the pain really well, so after a bleaching, dry the 
area lightly, and apply something like preperation H, and it fixes the whole 
problem. No pain, no scarring, no blisters. 
  Hope my info has been of help to someone, godspeed. Lisa.
  

Garnet  wrote:
  I use aloe vera and DMSO for burns. After an initial immediate 
application of both I strip out the aloe gel, mix with 50 -70% DMSO / CS 
liquid or 90% gel, although this is a high concentration. Then I 
compress on the burn area for about 20 minutes.

I burned myself by splashing boiling refried beans on my wrist two weeks 
ago. It turned a little red after this treatment, but no blisters and no 
pain. Two weeks later the only evidence of the burn is a very slight 
sloughing of the skin, not even enough to notice unless you look closely.

DMSO list:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

Garnet

Gerard Payne wrote:
> Best thing I've found for burns is DMSO. I use it at 70% concentration as
> per Dr. Stanley Jacobs. It works on all types of heat type burns. I haven't
> tried it on chemical type burns.
> Gerard
> - Original Message -
> From: "Richard" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 1:11 AM
> Subject: Re: CS>CS gel
> 
> 
> 
>>Smitty, combine aloe, cs and vit e and you have one hell of a burn
>>cream ! best wishes- Richard
>>On 16/04/2007, at 0:40, Smitty wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Thanks for the info Richard.
>>>I know about Aloe being great for burns. A lot of welding shops
>>>and car repair shops here have some potted aloe plants for burns.
>>>
>>>Smitty
>>>
>>>On 4/14/07, Richard wrote:
>>>
>>>>Doris, aloe is by nature is a bit yucky but the cs seems to
>>>>preserve it .
>>>>This cream will not have a long shelf life and will need a good
>>>>shake but
>>>>with these three magical ingredients it is worth making up fresh
>>>>once a week
>>>>- Richard
>>>>
>>>>On 15/04/2007, at 3:31, Cinder Ella wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Oh, I almost forgot, when I put aloe vera in the fridge without
>>>>some sort of
>>>>stabilizer etc, it turns brown and yucky. Will this mixture stay
>>>>fresh and
>>>>not oxidize and stay clear?
>>>>Doris
>>>>
>>>>- Original Message 
>>>>From: Richard 
>>>>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>>>>Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 6:02:11 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: CS>CS gel
>>>>
>>>>I have a recipe that I make in Spain: fresh aloe vera, 12 ppm
>>>>colloidal and large spoon of the best olive oil you can find. Mix
>>>>well and keep in the fridge. Friends swear by it - Richard
>>>>On 14/04/2007, at 23:48, Rebecca Thomas wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Regarding CS gel, do you make it? Would you please post or e-
>>>>
>>>>mail me
>>>>
>>>>>the recipe?
>>>>>
>>>>>TIA, Becca
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: CS>CS gel

[Garnet]

I use aloe vera and DMSO for burns. After an initial immediate 
application of both I strip out the aloe gel, mix with 50 -70% DMSO / CS 
liquid or 90% gel, although this is a high concentration. Then I 
compress on the burn area for about 20 minutes.


I burned myself by splashing boiling refried beans on my wrist two weeks 
ago. It turned a little red after this treatment, but no blisters and no 
pain. Two weeks later the only evidence of the burn is a very slight 
sloughing of the skin, not even enough to notice unless you look closely.


DMSO list:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

Garnet

Gerard Payne wrote:

Best thing I've found for burns is DMSO. I use it at 70% concentration as
per Dr. Stanley Jacobs. It works on all types of heat type burns. I haven't
tried it on chemical type burns.
Gerard
- Original Message -
From: "Richard" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 1:11 AM
Subject: Re: CS>CS gel




Smitty, combine aloe, cs and vit e and you have one hell of a burn
cream ! best wishes- Richard
On 16/04/2007, at 0:40, Smitty wrote:



Thanks for the info Richard.
I know about Aloe being great for burns. A lot of welding shops
and car repair shops here have some potted aloe plants for burns.

Smitty

On 4/14/07, Richard  wrote:


Doris, aloe is by nature is a bit yucky but the cs seems to
preserve it .
This cream will not have a long shelf life and will need a good
shake but
with these three magical ingredients it is worth making up fresh
once a week
- Richard

On 15/04/2007, at 3:31, Cinder Ella wrote:

Oh, I almost forgot, when I put aloe vera in the fridge without
some sort of
stabilizer etc, it turns brown and yucky.  Will this mixture stay
fresh and
not oxidize and stay clear?
Doris

- Original Message 
From: Richard 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 6:02:11 PM
Subject: Re: CS>CS gel

I have a recipe that I make in Spain: fresh aloe vera, 12 ppm
colloidal and large spoon of the best olive oil you can find. Mix
well and keep in the fridge. Friends swear by it - Richard
On 14/04/2007, at 23:48, Rebecca Thomas wrote:



Regarding CS gel, do you make it?  Would you please post or e-


mail me


the recipe?

TIA, Becca


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Re: CS>CS gel

[Gerard Payne]

I've never tried it on sunburns. DMSO is an anti-inflammatory so it ought to
work. I have gotten steam burns and burns from welding and cutting steel and
put DMSO on the burn and it doesn't even blister. It just goes away. After a
few minutes, it doesn't even feel burnt. If I had a burn that was like an
open wound or blistered, I would put CS on it.
Hope this helps,
Gerard
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From: "Marshall Dudley" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 7:34 AM
Subject: Re: CS>CS gel


> Gerard Payne wrote:
> > Best thing I've found for burns is DMSO. I use it at 70% concentration
as
> > per Dr. Stanley Jacobs. It works on all types of heat type burns. I
haven't
> > tried it on chemical type burns.
> > Gerard
>
> How about UV burns, like sunburn?
>
> Marshall
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Re: CS>CS gel

[Scott]

That seems to be what the medical journals say too! CS heals twice as fast and 
has no side effects!

Dee   wrote: I think the best thing for burns is CS.  Dee 

 

---Original Message--- 

 

From: Marshall Dudley 

Date: 23/04/2007 15:35:01 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: Re: CS>CS gel 

 

Gerard Payne wrote: 

> Best thing I've found for burns is DMSO. I use it at 70% concentration as 

> per Dr. Stanley Jacobs. It works on all types of heat type burns. I haven
t 

> tried it on chemical type burns. 

> Gerard 

 


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Re: CS>CS gel

[Dee]

I think the best thing for burns is CS.  Dee 

 

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From: Marshall Dudley 

Date: 23/04/2007 15:35:01 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: Re: CS>CS gel 

 

Gerard Payne wrote: 

> Best thing I've found for burns is DMSO. I use it at 70% concentration as 

> per Dr. Stanley Jacobs. It works on all types of heat type burns. I haven
t 

> tried it on chemical type burns. 

> Gerard 

 


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Re: CS>CS gel

[Marshall Dudley]

Gerard Payne wrote:

Best thing I've found for burns is DMSO. I use it at 70% concentration as
per Dr. Stanley Jacobs. It works on all types of heat type burns. I haven't
tried it on chemical type burns.
Gerard


How about UV burns, like sunburn?

Marshall


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Re: CS>CS gel

[Gerard Payne]

Best thing I've found for burns is DMSO. I use it at 70% concentration as
per Dr. Stanley Jacobs. It works on all types of heat type burns. I haven't
tried it on chemical type burns.
Gerard
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From: "Richard" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 1:11 AM
Subject: Re: CS>CS gel


> Smitty, combine aloe, cs and vit e and you have one hell of a burn
> cream ! best wishes- Richard
> On 16/04/2007, at 0:40, Smitty wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the info Richard.
> > I know about Aloe being great for burns. A lot of welding shops
> > and car repair shops here have some potted aloe plants for burns.
> >
> > Smitty
> >
> > On 4/14/07, Richard  wrote:
> >> Doris, aloe is by nature is a bit yucky but the cs seems to
> >> preserve it .
> >> This cream will not have a long shelf life and will need a good
> >> shake but
> >> with these three magical ingredients it is worth making up fresh
> >> once a week
> >> - Richard
> >>
> >> On 15/04/2007, at 3:31, Cinder Ella wrote:
> >>
> >> Oh, I almost forgot, when I put aloe vera in the fridge without
> >> some sort of
> >> stabilizer etc, it turns brown and yucky.  Will this mixture stay
> >> fresh and
> >> not oxidize and stay clear?
> >> Doris
> >>
> >> - Original Message 
> >> From: Richard 
> >> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> >> Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 6:02:11 PM
> >> Subject: Re: CS>CS gel
> >>
> >> I have a recipe that I make in Spain: fresh aloe vera, 12 ppm
> >> colloidal and large spoon of the best olive oil you can find. Mix
> >> well and keep in the fridge. Friends swear by it - Richard
> >> On 14/04/2007, at 23:48, Rebecca Thomas wrote:
> >>
> >> > Regarding CS gel, do you make it?  Would you please post or e-
> >> mail me
> >> > the recipe?
> >> >
> >> > TIA, Becca
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Re: CS>CS gel

[Marshall Dudley]

Mixing aloe vera with CS will destabilize the CS and cause it to 
aggregate rather quickly due to the high acidity of aloe vera.   Adding 
sufficient baking soda to bring the ph near 7 will decrease this 
destabilizing effect significantly.


Marshall

Cinder Ella wrote:
Oh, I almost forgot, when I put aloe vera in the fridge without some 
sort of stabilizer etc, it turns brown and yucky.  Will this mixture 
stay fresh and not oxidize and stay clear?

Doris

- Original Message 
From: Richard 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 6:02:11 PM
Subject: Re: CS>CS gel

I have a recipe that I make in Spain: fresh aloe vera, 12 ppm  
colloidal and large spoon of the best olive oil you can find. Mix  
well and keep in the fridge. Friends swear by it - Richard

On 14/04/2007, at 23:48, Rebecca Thomas wrote:

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> the recipe?
>
> TIA, Becca
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Re: CS>CS gel

[Richard]

Smitty, combine aloe, cs and vit e and you have one hell of a burn  
cream ! best wishes- Richard

On 16/04/2007, at 0:40, Smitty wrote:


Thanks for the info Richard.
I know about Aloe being great for burns. A lot of welding shops
and car repair shops here have some potted aloe plants for burns.

Smitty

On 4/14/07, Richard  wrote:
Doris, aloe is by nature is a bit yucky but the cs seems to  
preserve it .
This cream will not have a long shelf life and will need a good  
shake but
with these three magical ingredients it is worth making up fresh  
once a week

- Richard

On 15/04/2007, at 3:31, Cinder Ella wrote:

Oh, I almost forgot, when I put aloe vera in the fridge without  
some sort of
stabilizer etc, it turns brown and yucky.  Will this mixture stay  
fresh and

not oxidize and stay clear?
Doris

- Original Message 
From: Richard 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 6:02:11 PM
Subject: Re: CS>CS gel

I have a recipe that I make in Spain: fresh aloe vera, 12 ppm
colloidal and large spoon of the best olive oil you can find. Mix
well and keep in the fridge. Friends swear by it - Richard
On 14/04/2007, at 23:48, Rebecca Thomas wrote:

> Regarding CS gel, do you make it?  Would you please post or e- 
mail me

> the recipe?
>
> TIA, Becca
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[Smitty]

Thanks for the info Richard.
I know about Aloe being great for burns. A lot of welding shops
and car repair shops here have some potted aloe plants for burns.

Smitty

On 4/14/07, Richard  wrote:

Doris, aloe is by nature is a bit yucky but the cs seems to preserve it .
This cream will not have a long shelf life and will need a good shake but
with these three magical ingredients it is worth making up fresh once a week
- Richard

On 15/04/2007, at 3:31, Cinder Ella wrote:

Oh, I almost forgot, when I put aloe vera in the fridge without some sort of
stabilizer etc, it turns brown and yucky.  Will this mixture stay fresh and
not oxidize and stay clear?
Doris

- Original Message 
From: Richard 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 6:02:11 PM
Subject: Re: CS>CS gel

I have a recipe that I make in Spain: fresh aloe vera, 12 ppm
colloidal and large spoon of the best olive oil you can find. Mix
well and keep in the fridge. Friends swear by it - Richard
On 14/04/2007, at 23:48, Rebecca Thomas wrote:

> Regarding CS gel, do you make it?  Would you please post or e-mail me
> the recipe?
>
> TIA, Becca
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[Richard]

Doris, aloe is by nature is a bit yucky but the cs seems to preserve  
it . This cream will not have a long shelf life and will need a good  
shake but with these three magical ingredients it is worth making up  
fresh once a week - Richard

On 15/04/2007, at 3:31, Cinder Ella wrote:

Oh, I almost forgot, when I put aloe vera in the fridge without  
some sort of stabilizer etc, it turns brown and yucky.  Will this  
mixture stay fresh and not oxidize and stay clear?

Doris

- Original Message 
From: Richard 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 6:02:11 PM
Subject: Re: CS>CS gel

I have a recipe that I make in Spain: fresh aloe vera, 12 ppm
colloidal and large spoon of the best olive oil you can find. Mix
well and keep in the fridge. Friends swear by it - Richard
On 14/04/2007, at 23:48, Rebecca Thomas wrote:

> Regarding CS gel, do you make it?  Would you please post or e- 
mail me

> the recipe?
>
> TIA, Becca
>
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[Richard]

 Smitty ,it really depends and is not an exact science. At the  
moment we are adding some neem oil or citronella as there are a lot  
of mosquitoes at the moment. The aloe needs to be pulverised and then  
strained and I add cs at each of these stages so the aloe is fully  
immersed and then add the olive oil but not much. Spin them all in  
together and there you have it . It will not last forever - and will  
need shaking before usage - but we get through it so fast here I end  
up making a new batch every week.  Experiment for yourself  and you  
will discover one of the best natural creams available - as long as  
you can get used to the slightly "yucky " texture of aloe - best  
wishes - Richard  p.s astonishing results for burns !

On 15/04/2007, at 4:11, Smitty wrote:


Richard:

How much of each do you use in your recipe ?

Smitty



On 4/14/07, Cinder Ella  wrote:


Oh, I almost forgot, when I put aloe vera in the fridge without  
some sort of
stabilizer etc, it turns brown and yucky.  Will this mixture stay  
fresh and

not oxidize and stay clear?
Doris


- Original Message 
From: Richard 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 6:02:11 PM
Subject: Re: CS>CS gel


I have a recipe that I make in Spain: fresh aloe vera, 12 ppm
colloidal and large spoon of the best olive oil you can find. Mix
well and keep in the fridge. Friends swear by it - Richard
On 14/04/2007, at 23:48, Rebecca Thomas wrote:

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mail me

> the recipe?
>
> TIA, Becca
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[Smitty]

Richard:

How much of each do you use in your recipe ?

Smitty



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Oh, I almost forgot, when I put aloe vera in the fridge without some sort of
stabilizer etc, it turns brown and yucky.  Will this mixture stay fresh and
not oxidize and stay clear?
Doris


- Original Message 
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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 6:02:11 PM
Subject: Re: CS>CS gel


I have a recipe that I make in Spain: fresh aloe vera, 12 ppm
colloidal and large spoon of the best olive oil you can find. Mix
well and keep in the fridge. Friends swear by it - Richard
On 14/04/2007, at 23:48, Rebecca Thomas wrote:

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[Cinder Ella]

Oh, I almost forgot, when I put aloe vera in the fridge without some sort of 
stabilizer etc, it turns brown and yucky.  Will this mixture stay fresh and not 
oxidize and stay clear?
Doris


- Original Message 
From: Richard 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 6:02:11 PM
Subject: Re: CS>CS gel


I have a recipe that I make in Spain: fresh aloe vera, 12 ppm  
colloidal and large spoon of the best olive oil you can find. Mix  
well and keep in the fridge. Friends swear by it - Richard
On 14/04/2007, at 23:48, Rebecca Thomas wrote:

> Regarding CS gel, do you make it?  Would you please post or e-mail me
> the recipe?
>
> TIA, Becca
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Re: CS>CS gel

[Cinder Ella]

I have lots of aloe plants and haven't found a use for them yet.  I even put a 
little CS water in theplants when I water them.  Haven't noticed a difference 
yet.  This sounds a lot better than buying that gel stuff from the internet, a 
lot healthier.  Could you please give the measurements of how much of each to 
put in?  How much aloe, how much CS  to one large spoon of olive oil?  
Thanks
Doris


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I have a recipe that I make in Spain: fresh aloe vera, 12 ppm  
colloidal and large spoon of the best olive oil you can find. Mix  
well and keep in the fridge. Friends swear by it - Richard
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> the recipe?
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Re: CS>CS gel

[Richard]

I have a recipe that I make in Spain: fresh aloe vera, 12 ppm  
colloidal and large spoon of the best olive oil you can find. Mix  
well and keep in the fridge. Friends swear by it - Richard

On 14/04/2007, at 23:48, Rebecca Thomas wrote:


Regarding CS gel, do you make it?  Would you please post or e-mail me
the recipe?

TIA, Becca


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Re: CS>CS Gel and Warts?

[Lea Ann]

Thanks Marshal, when I get my colloidal silver maker back up and running - 
I'll try that!  Austin has lots and lots of warts.


Blessings,
Lea Ann Savage
Satellite Beach, FL
321-773-7088
www.FreeFashionJewelry.com
We have two ears and one mouth - use them proportionately!
(I'm hoping that if it's in my signature line I'll heed the advice :-)
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To: 
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Subject: Re: CS>CS Gel and Warts?



I have found that CS mixed with aloe vera works very well for warts.

Marshall 



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Re: CS>CS Gel and Warts?

[Marshall Dudley]

I have found that CS mixed with aloe vera works very well for warts.

Marshall

Lea Ann wrote:

> Hi Sam, Do you think the gel would be good for warts?  My son has a
> lot of them and spraying colloidal silver on it would take many
> applications a day. Blessings,
> Lea Ann Savage
> Satellite Beach, FL
> 321-773-7088
> www.FreeFashionJewelry.com
> We have two ears and one mouth - use them proportionately!
> (I'm hoping that if it's in my signature line I'll heed the advice :-)
>
> Philippians 4:8
>
>  - Original Message -
>  From: Sam Mureno
>  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>  Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2006 2:03 PM
>  Subject: Re: CS>Question about stirring mechanisms
>   Hi Lea Ann
>  I'm glad you found it. It took me some time to figure it out
>  also. I'm sorry the URL I posted wouldn't take you right to
>  it. Ode also sells a nice gel kit, item number 18, for
>  making CS tropical gel. Its the lowest price Ive seen
>  anywhere and am real happy with it. I use it on my face
>  after shaving and also on cuts and scrapes and also any skin
>  rashes. I picked up a bad skin rash in Brazil and this was
>  the only thing that killed it for good. It also stopped some
>  of my mothers skin cancer. I think it would of stopped all
>  of it but the medical docs got a look see on her annual
>  checkup and
>  talked her into surgery.
>  Ive also used it for burns and sun burns with great success.
>  Thanks Ode.
>  The mag stirrer works great for me, just remember theres a
>  spinner in the CS jar. I lost one by dumping the water out
>  on a experimental batch that went bad on me.
>
>  Sam L.
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Re: CS>CS Gel and Warts?

[Sam Mureno]

Hi Lea Ann.
Yes I think it would. My mother had two warts, one on her arm and one on her
face near her eye. I treated the one on her arm with CS gel during the day
and at night we soaked a cotton ball with CS and put that on
under a bandage. It took about two weeks and the wart drieded up and fell
off. The one near her eye we used the CS gel. You could see the wart turning
a different color just like the one on her arm did. I think I also used a
small amout of DMSO (if your familiar with this). It helps to take the CS
farther into the skin.
After the medical gestapo got hold of her they tested the wart on her face
for cancer, it tested positive so they cut it out.
Ive also heard that zapping help the body to get rid of the many viruses and
parasites that may cause warts, if your son has alot of them it might be a
parasite problem also. See Hulda Clark book ( A Cure For All Diseases) for
free at this URL. Its a good read. Theirs alot of her stuff I believe in and
theirs some that just to far out their.
http://www.royalrife.com/books.html

Hope this helps you.

Sam L.




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Hi Sam,

Do you think the gel would be good for warts?  My son has a lot of them
and spraying colloidal silver on it would take many applications a day.

Blessings,
Lea Ann Savage
Satellite Beach, FL
321-773-7088
www.FreeFashionJewelry.com
We have two ears and one mouth - use them proportionately!
(I'm hoping that if it's in my signature line I'll heed the advice :-)
Philippians 4:8

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*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Sent:* Saturday, September 30, 2006 2:03 PM
*Subject:* Re: CS>Question about stirring mechanisms

Hi Lea Ann
I'm glad you found it. It took me some time to figure it out also. I'm
sorry the URL I posted wouldn't take you right to it. Ode also sells a nice
gel kit, item number 18, for making CS tropical gel. Its the lowest price
Ive seen anywhere and am real happy with it. I use it on my face after
shaving and also on cuts and scrapes and also any skin rashes. I picked up a
bad skin rash in Brazil and this was the only thing that killed it for
good. It also stopped some of my mothers skin
cancer. I think it would of stopped all of it but the medical docs got a look
see on her annual checkup and
talked her into surgery.
Ive also used it for burns and sun burns with great success. Thanks Ode.
The mag stirrer works great for me, just remember theres a spinner in
the CS jar. I lost one by dumping the water out on a experimental batch that
went bad on me.

Sam L.

CS>Re: CS>CS: Gel ingredients?

[Tad Winiecki]

Paula wrote:  That doesn't help either, sorry. It is iodine I am allergic
to, so no seaweed products or seaweed thickeners at all. However, for
immediate
use, I wonder if flaxseed meal would work? or Fenugreek? SlipperyElm? or
maybe guar gum or xanthan gum.
Geez, I hope neither of those are seaweed products so far as I can find
out they are not..>

Paula- Xanthan gum is described in my Azure catalog- a powder milled from
the dried cell coat of a microorganism called Xanthomonas campestris grown
under laboratory conditions.  Xanthan gum is added to salad dressings,
canned gravies and sauces, and even ice craem to give these foods a
smoother texture.

Below is a recipe appearing formerly for a CS gel.

Nancy


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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 10:26:49 +0100 (GMT Standard Time)
From: "Rod Stevenson" 

Hi Chris,   I've not tried making an ointment with CS, but I have tried
making a gel, with and without aloe vera. Its very easy and your CS won't
need to be heated to a high temp ( as it does if your making a cream or
ointment).   Here's a recipe. (with thanks to Marshall for the ph bit)

90ml CS
2ml Xanthum Gum
10ml Aloe Vera concentrate (I use  1:10)
a few drops of a preservative, such as grapefruit seed extract.
sodium bicarb 
Gently heat the CS till it's lukewarm (this will make the gum melt more
easily) sprinkle the gum and beat vigorously. If you don't want to
introduce air bubbles into your mixture, keep the whisk on the bottom of
the pan. Add the AV concentrate and preservative. (I've found that after
about three weeks the gel develops a mould of some description. This is
about two weeks longer than using just water, so the CS is doing something,
just not for very long.)   Bring the mixture back to around 7ph with sodium
bicarb using litmus paper.  You can use other thickening agents such as
cellulose gum, roughly twice as much should do it.   Give it a try, it's
quick and simple to make.   Good Luck!   Rod



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Re: CS>CS: Gel ingredients?

[Garnet]

Just be careful when stripping out the gel. Don't try to get every last
bit so you don't get the yellow stuff (forgot what it is called). 

CS will not protect you from the runs as it is a chemical effect not a
microbe.

I still used homegrown Aloe internally, I just got more careful about
how I stripped it out. I bought the very large Aloe plants so that made
it much easier.

Garnet

On Mon, 2004-02-16 at 09:27, Gladys Williams wrote:
> Yes--that is what was said.  So if that is the only problem with home  
> grown aloe, it would be safe for external use(face).  And if I need it 
> for internal use, will the CS protect me from the r-u-n-n-n-s??? 
> 
> Gladys
> 
> 
> On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 21:47:54 -0600 Garnet 
> writes:
> 
> There is a substance in the leaf that is astringent and will induce
> diarrhea. It can be hard to stip out a leaf without this yellow
> substance contaminating your product if you do it at home. Not sure 
>  if this is what they are talking about?



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Re: CS>CS: Gel ingredients?

[Gladys Williams]

Yes--that is what was said.  So if that is the only problem with home  
grown aloe, it would be safe for external use(face).  And if I need it 
for internal use, will the CS protect me from the r-u-n-n-n-s??? 

Gladys


On Sun, 15 Feb 2004 21:47:54 -0600 Garnet 
writes:

There is a substance in the leaf that is astringent and will induce
diarrhea. It can be hard to stip out a leaf without this yellow
substance contaminating your product if you do it at home. Not sure 
 if this is what they are talking about?
 
 Garnet
 
 On Sun, 2004-02-15 at 18:03, Gladys Williams wrote:
QUESTION:  Someone told me there were impurities in the aloe plant 
 and it was better when it was processed and those impurities were 
 filtered out.  Is that true?

I grow aloe in my window sill with no chemical fertilizers, is it 
 safe to ingest, use, etc.  ?

> > Gladys
> >  
> > On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 11:01:48 -0700 "Thora Rasmussen"
> >  writes:
> > Aloe Very liquid is naturally thick, just break off a leaf 
> and
> > squeeze the liquid out, it is fairly thick.
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Rowena Evans 
> [mailto:rowenaev...@iprimus.com.au]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 9:04 PM
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Subject: CS>CS: Gel ingredients?
> > 
> > 
> > Richard won't be the only one who can answer this, 
> I'm
> > sure.
> >  
> > When one buys a gel for topical application, 
> what's in
> > it that forms the gel?
> > I only know of gelatine and carrageenan to make a 
> gel,
> > and can't see that either of those would be used. 
> 
> > What then?
> > Two queries prompt me here.
> >  
> > Firstly, I'm wondering how one could make a 
> thicker
> > topical preparation for CS or CS+DMSO than 
> liquid,
> > bearing in mind that the DMSO would carry any
> > ingredients in very efficiently.  One might not 
> wish
> > to use ready-made products with possibly unwanted
> > ingredients. 
> >  
> > Secondly, if one buys DMSO gel (thankfully I found 
> the
> > liquid), what ingredients are in the gel that 
> would
> > get carried into the body?
> >  
> > Thanks
> > Rowena
> >  
> 
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Re: CS>CS: Gel ingredients?

[sol]

Thanks Marshall,
 Agar and agar-agar have been on my list of iodine containing food 
ingredients for a long time. I was certain they did contain iodine but 
had no reference for it other than my list of things to avoid, when 
possible (iodine containing ingredients, even iodized salt are 
frequently not listed on labels).

paula

Marshall Dudley wrote:


I thought the same thing, but when I checked a number of suppliers of agar agar,
I noted that they indicated that this was a good source for iodine.

http://www.vegsoc.org/info/gelling.html
http://www.bulkfoods.com/agar_agar.htm

Natural agar agar is unflavoured producing a firm, clear jelly and is rich in
iodine and trace minerals and has mildly laxative properties.

http://www.bulkfoods.com/agar_agar.htm

Perhaps the trace elements in agar such as iodine provide nutrients for the
cultures.  I was unable to find a chemical formulea for agar, just that it was a
polysaccharide complex called lentinan.

Marshall
 





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Re: CS>CS: Gel ingredients?

[Garnet]

There is a substance in the leaf that is astringent and will induce
diarrhea. It can be hard to stip out a leaf without this yellow
substance contaminating your product if you do it at home. Not sure if
this is what they are talking about?

Garnet

On Sun, 2004-02-15 at 18:03, Gladys Williams wrote:
> QUESTION:  Someone told me there were impurities in the aloe plant and
> it was better when it was processed and those impurities were filtered
> out.  Is that true?
>  
> I grow aloe in my window sill with no chemical fertilizers, is it safe
> to ingest, use, etc.  ?
>  
> Gladys
>  
> On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 11:01:48 -0700 "Thora Rasmussen"
>  writes:
> Aloe Very liquid is naturally thick, just break off a leaf and
> squeeze the liquid out, it is fairly thick.
> -Original Message-
> From: Rowena Evans [mailto:rowenaev...@iprimus.com.au]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 9:04 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>CS: Gel ingredients?
> 
> 
> Richard won't be the only one who can answer this, I'm
> sure.
>  
> When one buys a gel for topical application, what's in
> it that forms the gel?
> I only know of gelatine and carrageenan to make a gel,
> and can't see that either of those would be used. 
> What then?
> Two queries prompt me here.
>  
> Firstly, I'm wondering how one could make a thicker
> topical preparation for CS or CS+DMSO than liquid,
> bearing in mind that the DMSO would carry any
> ingredients in very efficiently.  One might not wish
> to use ready-made products with possibly unwanted
> ingredients. 
>  
> Secondly, if one buys DMSO gel (thankfully I found the
> liquid), what ingredients are in the gel that would
> get carried into the body?
>  
> Thanks
> Rowena
>  


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Re: CS>CS: Gel ingredients?

[Gladys Williams]

QUESTION:  Someone told me there were impurities in the aloe plant and it
was better when it was processed and those impurities were filtered out. 
Is that true?

I grow aloe in my window sill with no chemical fertilizers, is it safe to
ingest, use, etc.  ?

Gladys

On Thu, 12 Feb 2004 11:01:48 -0700 "Thora Rasmussen"
 writes:
Aloe Very liquid is naturally thick, just break off a leaf and squeeze
the liquid out, it is fairly thick.
-Original Message-
From: Rowena Evans [mailto:rowenaev...@iprimus.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 9:04 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>CS: Gel ingredients?


Richard won't be the only one who can answer this, I'm sure.

When one buys a gel for topical application, what's in it that forms the
gel?
I only know of gelatine and carrageenan to make a gel, and can't see that
either of those would be used. 
What then?
Two queries prompt me here.

Firstly, I'm wondering how one could make a thicker topical preparation
for CS or CS+DMSO than liquid, bearing in mind that the DMSO would carry
any ingredients in very efficiently.  One might not wish to use
ready-made products with possibly unwanted ingredients. 

Secondly, if one buys DMSO gel (thankfully I found the liquid), what
ingredients are in the gel that would get carried into the body?

Thanks
Rowena

Re: CS>CS: Gel ingredients?

[Garnet]

To find out about the lab grade agar you would need to contact a
distributor or mfg. Edmonds Scientific Catalog may have it.

Garnet

On Sun, 2004-02-15 at 10:50, Marshall Dudley wrote:
> I thought the same thing, but when I checked a number of suppliers of agar 
> agar,
> I noted that they indicated that this was a good source for iodine.
> 
> http://www.vegsoc.org/info/gelling.html
> http://www.bulkfoods.com/agar_agar.htm
> 
> Natural agar agar is unflavoured producing a firm, clear jelly and is rich in
> iodine and trace minerals and has mildly laxative properties.
> 
> http://www.bulkfoods.com/agar_agar.htm
> 
> Perhaps the trace elements in agar such as iodine provide nutrients for the
> cultures.  I was unable to find a chemical formulea for agar, just that it 
> was a
> polysaccharide complex called lentinan.
> 
> Marshall
> 
> Garnet wrote:
> 
> > Guess I missed the part about iodine allergy. Agar is a purified
> > product, particularly that sold by scientific supply houses. It is used
> > as a base media for cell culture. I would be very surprised if there is
> > any iodine content in this form, as it would skew the results of any
> > attempt to grow microbes or tissue cultures.
> >
> > Garnet
> >
> > On Sat, 2004-02-14 at 23:32, sol wrote:
> > > Garnet,
> > >   That doesn't help either, sorry. It is iodine I am allergic to, so no
> > > seaweed products or seaweed thickeners at all. However, for immediate
> > > use, I wonder if flaxseed meal would work? or Fenugreek? SlipperyElm? or
> > > maybe guar gum or xanthan gum.
> > > Geez, I hope neither of those are seaweed products so far as I can find
> > > out they are not..
> > >Actually though sloppy, I don't mind a liquid, it probably isn't
> > > worth the trouble to me to make a gel.
> > >
> > > paula
> > >
> > > Garnet wrote:
> > >
> > > >You can make a "gel" with Agar agar, a seaweed. I have found it at Whole
> > > >Food Stores. It is used as a vegan substitute for gelatin which is
> > > >extracted from cow hooves.
> > > >
> > > >Garnet
> > > >
> > > >On Sat, 2004-02-14 at 16:48, sol wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>Oh, crud. No carrageenan for me. Drat. It is a good thing the aloe juice
> > > >>works well.
> > > >>Thanks for looking and posting the info.
> > > >>paula
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>Garnet wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>I looked a bottle of the organic Aloe Gel I used to use. It is by Lily
> > > >>>of the Desert (not Lily of the Valley as I previously stated on this
> > > >>>list).
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Carageenan is used as a thickening agent. www.lilyofthedesert.com is
> > > >>>thier website. Perhaps they can answer your questions.
> > > >>>
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Re: CS>CS: Gel ingredients?

[Marshall Dudley]

I thought the same thing, but when I checked a number of suppliers of agar agar,
I noted that they indicated that this was a good source for iodine.

http://www.vegsoc.org/info/gelling.html
http://www.bulkfoods.com/agar_agar.htm

Natural agar agar is unflavoured producing a firm, clear jelly and is rich in
iodine and trace minerals and has mildly laxative properties.

http://www.bulkfoods.com/agar_agar.htm

Perhaps the trace elements in agar such as iodine provide nutrients for the
cultures.  I was unable to find a chemical formulea for agar, just that it was a
polysaccharide complex called lentinan.

Marshall

Garnet wrote:

> Guess I missed the part about iodine allergy. Agar is a purified
> product, particularly that sold by scientific supply houses. It is used
> as a base media for cell culture. I would be very surprised if there is
> any iodine content in this form, as it would skew the results of any
> attempt to grow microbes or tissue cultures.
>
> Garnet
>
> On Sat, 2004-02-14 at 23:32, sol wrote:
> > Garnet,
> >   That doesn't help either, sorry. It is iodine I am allergic to, so no
> > seaweed products or seaweed thickeners at all. However, for immediate
> > use, I wonder if flaxseed meal would work? or Fenugreek? SlipperyElm? or
> > maybe guar gum or xanthan gum.
> > Geez, I hope neither of those are seaweed products so far as I can find
> > out they are not..
> >Actually though sloppy, I don't mind a liquid, it probably isn't
> > worth the trouble to me to make a gel.
> >
> > paula
> >
> > Garnet wrote:
> >
> > >You can make a "gel" with Agar agar, a seaweed. I have found it at Whole
> > >Food Stores. It is used as a vegan substitute for gelatin which is
> > >extracted from cow hooves.
> > >
> > >Garnet
> > >
> > >On Sat, 2004-02-14 at 16:48, sol wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>Oh, crud. No carrageenan for me. Drat. It is a good thing the aloe juice
> > >>works well.
> > >>Thanks for looking and posting the info.
> > >>paula
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Garnet wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>I looked a bottle of the organic Aloe Gel I used to use. It is by Lily
> > >>>of the Desert (not Lily of the Valley as I previously stated on this
> > >>>list).
> > >>>
> > >>>Carageenan is used as a thickening agent. www.lilyofthedesert.com is
> > >>>thier website. Perhaps they can answer your questions.
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Re: CS>CS: Gel ingredients?

[Garnet]

Guess I missed the part about iodine allergy. Agar is a purified
product, particularly that sold by scientific supply houses. It is used
as a base media for cell culture. I would be very surprised if there is
any iodine content in this form, as it would skew the results of any
attempt to grow microbes or tissue cultures.

Garnet

On Sat, 2004-02-14 at 23:32, sol wrote:
> Garnet,
>   That doesn't help either, sorry. It is iodine I am allergic to, so no 
> seaweed products or seaweed thickeners at all. However, for immediate 
> use, I wonder if flaxseed meal would work? or Fenugreek? SlipperyElm? or 
> maybe guar gum or xanthan gum.
> Geez, I hope neither of those are seaweed products so far as I can find 
> out they are not..
>Actually though sloppy, I don't mind a liquid, it probably isn't 
> worth the trouble to me to make a gel.
> 
> paula
> 
> Garnet wrote:
> 
> >You can make a "gel" with Agar agar, a seaweed. I have found it at Whole
> >Food Stores. It is used as a vegan substitute for gelatin which is
> >extracted from cow hooves.
> >
> >Garnet
> >
> >On Sat, 2004-02-14 at 16:48, sol wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>Oh, crud. No carrageenan for me. Drat. It is a good thing the aloe juice 
> >>works well.
> >>Thanks for looking and posting the info.
> >>paula
> >>
> >>
> >>Garnet wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>I looked a bottle of the organic Aloe Gel I used to use. It is by Lily
> >>>of the Desert (not Lily of the Valley as I previously stated on this
> >>>list).
> >>>
> >>>Carageenan is used as a thickening agent. www.lilyofthedesert.com is
> >>>thier website. Perhaps they can answer your questions.
> >>>
> >>> 
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Re: CS>CS: Gel ingredients?

[sol]

Garnet,
 That doesn't help either, sorry. It is iodine I am allergic to, so no 
seaweed products or seaweed thickeners at all. However, for immediate 
use, I wonder if flaxseed meal would work? or Fenugreek? SlipperyElm? or 
maybe guar gum or xanthan gum.
Geez, I hope neither of those are seaweed products so far as I can find 
out they are not..
  Actually though sloppy, I don't mind a liquid, it probably isn't 
worth the trouble to me to make a gel.


paula

Garnet wrote:


You can make a "gel" with Agar agar, a seaweed. I have found it at Whole
Food Stores. It is used as a vegan substitute for gelatin which is
extracted from cow hooves.

Garnet

On Sat, 2004-02-14 at 16:48, sol wrote:
 

Oh, crud. No carrageenan for me. Drat. It is a good thing the aloe juice 
works well.

Thanks for looking and posting the info.
paula


Garnet wrote:

   


I looked a bottle of the organic Aloe Gel I used to use. It is by Lily
of the Desert (not Lily of the Valley as I previously stated on this
list).

Carageenan is used as a thickening agent. www.lilyofthedesert.com is
thier website. Perhaps they can answer your questions.





 



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Re: CS>CS: Gel ingredients?

[Garnet]

You can make a "gel" with Agar agar, a seaweed. I have found it at Whole
Food Stores. It is used as a vegan substitute for gelatin which is
extracted from cow hooves.

Garnet

On Sat, 2004-02-14 at 16:48, sol wrote:
> Oh, crud. No carrageenan for me. Drat. It is a good thing the aloe juice 
> works well.
> Thanks for looking and posting the info.
> paula
> 
> 
> Garnet wrote:
> 
> > I looked a bottle of the organic Aloe Gel I used to use. It is by Lily
> >of the Desert (not Lily of the Valley as I previously stated on this
> >list).
> >
> >Carageenan is used as a thickening agent. www.lilyofthedesert.com is
> >thier website. Perhaps they can answer your questions.
> >
> >  
> >
> >  
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Re: CS>CS: Gel ingredients?

[sol]

Oh, crud. No carrageenan for me. Drat. It is a good thing the aloe juice 
works well.

Thanks for looking and posting the info.
paula


Garnet wrote:


I looked a bottle of the organic Aloe Gel I used to use. It is by Lily
of the Desert (not Lily of the Valley as I previously stated on this
list).

Carageenan is used as a thickening agent. www.lilyofthedesert.com is
thier website. Perhaps they can answer your questions.

 

 





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RE: CS>CS: Gel ingredients?

[Ode Coyote]

 Same here.  CS Works great straight up.
My skeptical dentist finally checked it out after 4 years of raised
eyebrows and free [unused] sample packets of flouride.
ode
>
>I do the same thing for the same reasons with the same results...without
DMSO.
>
>stuff
>
>At 10:24 PM 2/12/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>>I use DMSO and CS in my mouth to treat an abcessed tooth and prevent
>>tooth decay and gingivitis. Some people consume it orally in 1-2
>>teaspoon amounts daily. I swallow what I hold in my mouth after a few
>>minutes. My digestion has been much better since I started this
>>practice. Don't ask me why, it's still a mysterious substance to me -
>>but I do plan to continue my personal investigations and experiments.
>>
>>Since both are cheap there is not a financial constraint. There are no
>>side effects. I feel that I only stand to gain and learn. I do know that
>>it prevent ulcers and 15% is converted to MSM. There are other benefits
>>to oral consumption of DMSO but since this is the CS list I will simply
>>invite every one to join the new list on DMSO I created recently.
>>
>>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO/
>>
>>Garnet
>>
>>Garnet
>>
>>On Thu, 2004-02-12 at 16:41, James Holmes wrote:
>> > There is probably little benefit to adding DMSO to CS taken by mouth.
>> >
>> > It is more likely beneficial when used topically (carries , or as nose 
>> drops
>> > (carries the sol into areas not well supplied with blood vessels, or
>> > nebulized (carries the sol through thick mucus).
>> >
>> > The AW of Ag is about 107 more or less.  DMSO does stink.
>> >
>> > JOH
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: bob smith [mailto:rresm...@comcast.net]
>> > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 2:33 PM
>> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> > Subject: Re: CS>CS: Gel ingredients?
>> >
>> >
>> > I'm learning a lot today.  I've been putting DMSO in my CS.  I had read
>> > posts on it causing you to have an odor. This did not bother me as
long as
>> > it might do me more good.  Some one also posted the molecular weight of
>> > silver recently.  As I recall it was over 1000. If that is true, I
will get
>> > off it quick because one of the kids told me the other day that the 
>> odor had
>> > been very noticeable at the holiday gathering.  She thought it was a one
>> > time deal, but has noticed it getting worse every time I've been around
>> > since.  So should I quit adding it to the CS I drink? The amount you get
>> > from the nebulizer shouldn't have  any effect ?  Bob Smith
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: "Garnet" 
>> > To: 
>> > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 9:07 AM
>> > Subject: Re: CS>CS: Gel ingredients?
>> >
>> >
>> > > DMSO does not carry everything into the body, only molecules of a
>> > > molecular weight of less than 1,000.
>> > >
>> >
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RE: CS>CS: Gel ingredients?

[Garnet]

I find that the addition of DMSO means that I can do the treatments less
often and get even better results. It is a "potentiator", if you will,
of CS activity.

Garnet

On Fri, 2004-02-13 at 09:17, Stuff wrote:
> I do the same thing for the same reasons with the same results...without DMSO.
> 
> stuff
> 
> At 10:24 PM 2/12/2004 -0600, you wrote:
> >I use DMSO and CS in my mouth to treat an abcessed tooth and prevent
> >tooth decay and gingivitis. Some people consume it orally in 1-2
> >teaspoon amounts daily. I swallow what I hold in my mouth after a few
> >minutes. My digestion has been much better since I started this
> >practice. Don't ask me why, it's still a mysterious substance to me -
> >but I do plan to continue my personal investigations and experiments.
> >
> >Since both are cheap there is not a financial constraint. There are no
> >side effects. I feel that I only stand to gain and learn. I do know that
> >it prevent ulcers and 15% is converted to MSM. There are other benefits
> >to oral consumption of DMSO but since this is the CS list I will simply
> >invite every one to join the new list on DMSO I created recently.
> >
> >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO/
> >
> >Garnet
> >
> >Garnet
> >
> >On Thu, 2004-02-12 at 16:41, James Holmes wrote:
> > > There is probably little benefit to adding DMSO to CS taken by mouth.
> > >
> > > It is more likely beneficial when used topically (carries , or as nose 
> > drops
> > > (carries the sol into areas not well supplied with blood vessels, or
> > > nebulized (carries the sol through thick mucus).
> > >
> > > The AW of Ag is about 107 more or less.  DMSO does stink.
> > >
> > > JOH
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: bob smith [mailto:rresm...@comcast.net]
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 2:33 PM
> > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > > Subject: Re: CS>CS: Gel ingredients?
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm learning a lot today.  I've been putting DMSO in my CS.  I had read
> > > posts on it causing you to have an odor. This did not bother me as long as
> > > it might do me more good.  Some one also posted the molecular weight of
> > > silver recently.  As I recall it was over 1000. If that is true, I will 
> > > get
> > > off it quick because one of the kids told me the other day that the 
> > odor had
> > > been very noticeable at the holiday gathering.  She thought it was a one
> > > time deal, but has noticed it getting worse every time I've been around
> > > since.  So should I quit adding it to the CS I drink? The amount you get
> > > from the nebulizer shouldn't have  any effect ?  Bob Smith
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Garnet" 
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 9:07 AM
> > > Subject: Re: CS>CS: Gel ingredients?
> > >
> > >
> > > > DMSO does not carry everything into the body, only molecules of a
> > > > molecular weight of less than 1,000.
> > > >
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RE: CS>CS: Gel ingredients?

[Stuff]

I do the same thing for the same reasons with the same results...without DMSO.

stuff

At 10:24 PM 2/12/2004 -0600, you wrote:

I use DMSO and CS in my mouth to treat an abcessed tooth and prevent
tooth decay and gingivitis. Some people consume it orally in 1-2
teaspoon amounts daily. I swallow what I hold in my mouth after a few
minutes. My digestion has been much better since I started this
practice. Don't ask me why, it's still a mysterious substance to me -
but I do plan to continue my personal investigations and experiments.

Since both are cheap there is not a financial constraint. There are no
side effects. I feel that I only stand to gain and learn. I do know that
it prevent ulcers and 15% is converted to MSM. There are other benefits
to oral consumption of DMSO but since this is the CS list I will simply
invite every one to join the new list on DMSO I created recently.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO/

Garnet

Garnet

On Thu, 2004-02-12 at 16:41, James Holmes wrote:
> There is probably little benefit to adding DMSO to CS taken by mouth.
>
> It is more likely beneficial when used topically (carries , or as nose 
drops

> (carries the sol into areas not well supplied with blood vessels, or
> nebulized (carries the sol through thick mucus).
>
> The AW of Ag is about 107 more or less.  DMSO does stink.
>
> JOH
>
> -Original Message-
> From: bob smith [mailto:rresm...@comcast.net]
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 2:33 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>CS: Gel ingredients?
>
>
> I'm learning a lot today.  I've been putting DMSO in my CS.  I had read
> posts on it causing you to have an odor. This did not bother me as long as
> it might do me more good.  Some one also posted the molecular weight of
> silver recently.  As I recall it was over 1000. If that is true, I will get
> off it quick because one of the kids told me the other day that the 
odor had

> been very noticeable at the holiday gathering.  She thought it was a one
> time deal, but has noticed it getting worse every time I've been around
> since.  So should I quit adding it to the CS I drink? The amount you get
> from the nebulizer shouldn't have  any effect ?  Bob Smith
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Garnet" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 9:07 AM
> Subject: Re: CS>CS: Gel ingredients?
>
>
> > DMSO does not carry everything into the body, only molecules of a
> > molecular weight of less than 1,000.
> >
>
>
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RE: CS>CS: Gel ingredients?

[Garnet]

I use DMSO and CS in my mouth to treat an abcessed tooth and prevent
tooth decay and gingivitis. Some people consume it orally in 1-2
teaspoon amounts daily. I swallow what I hold in my mouth after a few
minutes. My digestion has been much better since I started this
practice. Don't ask me why, it's still a mysterious substance to me -
but I do plan to continue my personal investigations and experiments.

Since both are cheap there is not a financial constraint. There are no
side effects. I feel that I only stand to gain and learn. I do know that
it prevent ulcers and 15% is converted to MSM. There are other benefits
to oral consumption of DMSO but since this is the CS list I will simply
invite every one to join the new list on DMSO I created recently.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO/

Garnet

Garnet

On Thu, 2004-02-12 at 16:41, James Holmes wrote:
> There is probably little benefit to adding DMSO to CS taken by mouth.  
> 
> It is more likely beneficial when used topically (carries , or as nose drops
> (carries the sol into areas not well supplied with blood vessels, or
> nebulized (carries the sol through thick mucus). 
> 
> The AW of Ag is about 107 more or less.  DMSO does stink. 
> 
> JOH
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: bob smith [mailto:rresm...@comcast.net] 
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 2:33 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>CS: Gel ingredients?
> 
> 
> I'm learning a lot today.  I've been putting DMSO in my CS.  I had read
> posts on it causing you to have an odor. This did not bother me as long as
> it might do me more good.  Some one also posted the molecular weight of
> silver recently.  As I recall it was over 1000. If that is true, I will get
> off it quick because one of the kids told me the other day that the odor had
> been very noticeable at the holiday gathering.  She thought it was a one
> time deal, but has noticed it getting worse every time I've been around
> since.  So should I quit adding it to the CS I drink? The amount you get
> from the nebulizer shouldn't have  any effect ?  Bob Smith
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Garnet" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 9:07 AM
> Subject: Re: CS>CS: Gel ingredients?
> 
> 
> > DMSO does not carry everything into the body, only molecules of a 
> > molecular weight of less than 1,000.
> >
> 
> 
> 
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RE: CS>CS: Gel ingredients?

[Garnet]

 I looked a bottle of the organic Aloe Gel I used to use. It is by Lily
of the Desert (not Lily of the Valley as I previously stated on this
list).

Carageenan is used as a thickening agent. www.lilyofthedesert.com is
thier website. Perhaps they can answer your questions.

When you strip aloe it is thick but I don't think it will stay thick.

Garnet

On Thu, 2004-02-12 at 12:01, Thora Rasmussen wrote:
> Aloe Very liquid is naturally thick, just break off a leaf and squeeze
> the liquid out, it is fairly thick.
> -Original Message-
> From: Rowena Evans [mailto:rowenaev...@iprimus.com.au]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 9:04 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>CS: Gel ingredients?
> 
> 
> Richard won't be the only one who can answer this, I'm sure.
>  
> When one buys a gel for topical application, what's in it that
> forms the gel?
> I only know of gelatine and carrageenan to make a gel, and
> can't see that either of those would be used. 
> What then?
> Two queries prompt me here.
>  
> Firstly, I'm wondering how one could make a thicker topical
> preparation for CS or CS+DMSO than liquid, bearing in mind
> that the DMSO would carry any ingredients in very
> efficiently.  One might not wish to use ready-made
> products with possibly unwanted ingredients. 
>  
> Secondly, if one buys DMSO gel (thankfully I found the
> liquid), what ingredients are in the gel that would get
> carried into the body?
>  
> Thanks
> Rowena


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RE: CS>CS: Gel ingredients?

[James Holmes]

There is probably little benefit to adding DMSO to CS taken by mouth.  

It is more likely beneficial when used topically (carries , or as nose drops
(carries the sol into areas not well supplied with blood vessels, or
nebulized (carries the sol through thick mucus). 

The AW of Ag is about 107 more or less.  DMSO does stink. 

JOH

-Original Message-
From: bob smith [mailto:rresm...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 2:33 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>CS: Gel ingredients?


I'm learning a lot today.  I've been putting DMSO in my CS.  I had read
posts on it causing you to have an odor. This did not bother me as long as
it might do me more good.  Some one also posted the molecular weight of
silver recently.  As I recall it was over 1000. If that is true, I will get
off it quick because one of the kids told me the other day that the odor had
been very noticeable at the holiday gathering.  She thought it was a one
time deal, but has noticed it getting worse every time I've been around
since.  So should I quit adding it to the CS I drink? The amount you get
from the nebulizer shouldn't have  any effect ?  Bob Smith



- Original Message -
From: "Garnet" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: CS>CS: Gel ingredients?


> DMSO does not carry everything into the body, only molecules of a 
> molecular weight of less than 1,000.
>



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RE: CS>CS: Gel ingredients?

[James Holmes]

I have previously read that the limit is a AW or MW of no greater than 340.
Does anyone know where to find a definitive reference?

TIA

JOH

-Original Message-
From: Garnet [mailto:garnetri...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 8:08 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>CS: Gel ingredients?


DMSO does not carry everything into the body, only molecules of a molecular
weight of less than 1,000.

Garnet

On Wed, 2004-02-11 at 22:04, Rowena Evans wrote:
> Richard won't be the only one who can answer this, I'm sure.
>  
> When one buys a gel for topical application, what's in it that forms 
> the gel? I only know of gelatine and carrageenan to make a gel, and 
> can't see that either of those would be used.
> What then?
> Two queries prompt me here.
>  
> Firstly, I'm wondering how one could make a thicker topical 
> preparation for CS or CS+DMSO than liquid, bearing in mind that the 
> DMSO would carry any ingredients in very efficiently.  One might not 
> wish to use ready-made products with possibly unwanted ingredients.
>  
> Secondly, if one buys DMSO gel (thankfully I found the liquid), what 
> ingredients are in the gel that would get carried into the body?
>  
> Thanks
> Rowena


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Re: CS>CS: Gel ingredients?

[bob smith]

I'm learning a lot today.  I've been putting DMSO in my CS.  I had read
posts on it causing you to have an odor. This did not bother me as long as
it might do me more good.  Some one also posted the molecular weight of
silver recently.  As I recall it was over 1000. If that is true, I will get
off it quick because one of the kids told me the other day that the odor had
been very noticeable at the holiday gathering.  She thought it was a one
time deal, but has noticed it getting worse every time I've been around
since.  So should I quit adding it to the CS I drink? The amount you get
from the nebulizer shouldn't have  any effect ?  Bob Smith



- Original Message -
From: "Garnet" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: CS>CS: Gel ingredients?


> DMSO does not carry everything into the body, only molecules of a
> molecular weight of less than 1,000.
>



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Re: CS>CS: Gel ingredients?

[Garnet]

DMSO does not carry everything into the body, only molecules of a
molecular weight of less than 1,000.

Garnet

On Wed, 2004-02-11 at 22:04, Rowena Evans wrote:
> Richard won't be the only one who can answer this, I'm sure.
>  
> When one buys a gel for topical application, what's in it that forms
> the gel?
> I only know of gelatine and carrageenan to make a gel, and can't see
> that either of those would be used. 
> What then?
> Two queries prompt me here.
>  
> Firstly, I'm wondering how one could make a thicker topical
> preparation for CS or CS+DMSO than liquid, bearing in mind that the
> DMSO would carry any ingredients in very efficiently.  One might not
> wish to use ready-made products with possibly unwanted ingredients. 
>  
> Secondly, if one buys DMSO gel (thankfully I found the liquid), what
> ingredients are in the gel that would get carried into the body?
>  
> Thanks
> Rowena


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RE: CS>CS: Gel ingredients?

[Thora Rasmussen]

Aloe Very liquid is naturally thick, just break off a leaf and squeeze the
liquid out, it is fairly thick.
  -Original Message-
  From: Rowena Evans [mailto:rowenaev...@iprimus.com.au]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 9:04 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: CS>CS: Gel ingredients?


  Richard won't be the only one who can answer this, I'm sure.

  When one buys a gel for topical application, what's in it that forms the
gel?
  I only know of gelatine and carrageenan to make a gel, and can't see that
either of those would be used.
  What then?
  Two queries prompt me here.

  Firstly, I'm wondering how one could make a thicker topical preparation
for CS or CS+DMSO than liquid, bearing in mind that the DMSO would carry any
ingredients in very efficiently.  One might not wish to use ready-made
products with possibly unwanted ingredients.

  Secondly, if one buys DMSO gel (thankfully I found the liquid), what
ingredients are in the gel that would get carried into the body?

  Thanks
  Rowena

Re: CS>CS/Gel recipe?

[M. G. Devour]

> Date:  Wed, 07 Aug 2002 11:38:47 -0400
> From:  Marshall Dudley 
> To:silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject:       Re: CS>CS/Gel recipe?
> Reply-to:  silver-list@eskimo.com

> Yes, it was I. I have found that combo to be excellent for things like burns
> and acne.

Ummm, what were the proportions of aloe, CS, and baking soda?

M.

 
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Re: CS>CS/Gel recipe?

[Marshall Dudley]

Yes, it was I. I have found that combo to be excellent for things like burns
and acne.

Marshall

"M. G. Devour" wrote:

> Folks, haven't we discussed a recipe for mixing CS with Aloe gel, plus
> some ... baking soda? ... to buffer the pH? Marshall, was that you?
> Ivan?
>
> Be well,
>
> Mike D.
>
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Re: CS>CS/Gel recipe?

[M. G. Devour]

Folks, haven't we discussed a recipe for mixing CS with Aloe gel, plus 
some ... baking soda? ... to buffer the pH? Marshall, was that you? 
Ivan?

Be well,

Mike D.

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Re: CS>CS/Gel recipe?

[Barbara Liles]

Re: CS>CS/Gel recipe?Might check out MSP Research's product Burn Mist.  It 
contains silver, MSM, purified lignin extract and sulfated castor oil.  
Addresses pain and infection.

This too won't work sitting on the shelf, but because it is a spray, people are 
more apt to be compliant.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rod STEVENSON 
  To: silverlist 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 5:07 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>CS/Gel recipe?



- Original Message - 
From: Rod STEVENSON 
To: James Osbourne, Holmes 
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 11:04 AM
    Subject: Re: CS>CS/Gel recipe?


James Osbourne, Holmes wrote;

  I saw one remarkable case where silver foil was laid over the burned 
area; a face.  It seemed miraculous. Fireworks accident.  I can't recall if 
there was any 3rd degree, but I know there was some 2nd.  No scarring. 
   
  Jack Dayton added;
   
  not sure if this suggestion has any validity,
  but burn victims on occasion are treated with sheets of some
  type of material to lay over the burn area I think it might 
  come pre-wetted with CS and probably something in addition.

  Since the area being treated is on the surface this should accomplish
  what you are looking for.   IMHO

  Thanks for your replies,
  What your both describing, seems to be part of a Japanese acupuncture 
technique called ion-pumping. It was used on burn vistims during WWII by Yoshio 
Manaka with great results, by all accounts. I've not heard of IPA being used 
for psoriasis,but it's worth considering. If I can find a supplier for the 
ion-pumping cords, I'll try it and let you know the results-if you're 
interested.
   
  Regards
  Rod Stevenson
  PS You mentioned the spray-already using this, but the pratitioners out 
there will know that patient compliance (especially if it involves repeated 
treatment) is one of the main reasons that a tried and trusted therapy doesn't 
work. Nothing does if it's sat on the shelf. 

Re: CS>CS/Gel recipe?

[Rod STEVENSON]

Re: CS>CS/Gel recipe?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rod STEVENSON 
  To: James Osbourne, Holmes 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 11:04 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>CS/Gel recipe?


  James Osbourne, Holmes wrote;

I saw one remarkable case where silver foil was laid over the burned area; 
a face.  It seemed miraculous. Fireworks accident.  I can't recall if there was 
any 3rd degree, but I know there was some 2nd.  No scarring. 

Jack Dayton added;

not sure if this suggestion has any validity,
but burn victims on occasion are treated with sheets of some
type of material to lay over the burn area I think it might 
come pre-wetted with CS and probably something in addition.

Since the area being treated is on the surface this should accomplish
what you are looking for.   IMHO

Thanks for your replies,
What your both describing, seems to be part of a Japanese acupuncture 
technique called ion-pumping. It was used on burn vistims during WWII by Yoshio 
Manaka with great results, by all accounts. I've not heard of IPA being used 
for psoriasis,but it's worth considering. If I can find a supplier for the 
ion-pumping cords, I'll try it and let you know the results-if you're 
interested.

Regards
Rod Stevenson
PS You mentioned the spray-already using this, but the pratitioners out 
there will know that patient compliance (especially if it involves repeated 
treatment) is one of the main reasons that a tried and trusted therapy doesn't 
work. Nothing does if it's sat on the shelf. 
  

Re: CS>CS/Gel recipe?

[Barbara Liles]

Check out www.mildsilverprotein.com They have products and a protocol.
  - Original Message - 
  From: MARIANO DELISE 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 12:02 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>CS/Gel recipe?


  My friend had psoriasis.  She put CS on gauze pads and placed directly on the 
psoriasis.  She then covered this with saran plastic wrap so the pad would 
remain moist all night.  After a couple of nights of direct contace, the 
psoriasis began to clear up.  Of course drinking it at the same time is a good 
idea.
  Nancy
- Original Message - 
From: Rod STEVENSON 
To: silverlist 
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: CS>CS/Gel recipe?


Thanks James,
I guessed that the properties of any CS might change with a gel, this is 
why I didn't want to jst add it to, an aloe vera gel for instance. 
I have a patient with chronic and very stubborn psoriasis. It extends from 
the back of the head, then in various size patches over the back and the back 
of the legs to the lateral surface of the lower leg. Over a peroid of many 
months the fungal infection/psoriasis that covered most of her toe/fingernails 
has been resolved. I say fungal/psoriasis since even after several visits to a 
Harley Street dermatologist, a concrete diagnosis was never made.
There has been some success using a seven star needle (trad. acupunture 
technique) which has improved since I started making my own CS (with an SG7) 
and cleaning the "graze" that results from a heavy 7SN technique.
So, the reason I want to combine CS with a gel is to have the CS in contact 
with the skin for 90%+ of the time rather than the hour or so that I see her 
for.
Sorry this is a little involved, but I thought that the reason I need a gel 
recipe was important.
Many thanks for any help
Rod Stevenson
PS After doing my own tests on my home produced CS, with milk, yeast meat 
etc, I now use CS to disinfect surfaces and sterilize all my equipment (other 
than needles -which are single use ) 
You might not know it but this is about as strong a recommendation as I 
could ever give.   
  - Original Message - 
  From: James Osbourne, Holmes 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 12:00 AM
      Subject: RE: CS>CS/Gel recipe?


  Studies of CS against bacteria done on plated nutrients do not work as 
well as those done in broth. 
  A jell is a colloid itself.  This may change the properties of CS from 
that of a liquid preparation. 
   
  James-Osbourne: Holmes
-Original Message-
From: Rod STEVENSON [mailto:r...@stevenson7399.fsnet.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 4:58 PM
To: silverlist
Subject: CS>CS/Gel recipe?


Hi List,
Does anyone know of a preprepared gel, that can be combined with CS? 
Better still would be a list of ingredients and method to make my (our) own.
Any ideas?
TIA
Rod.

Re: CS>CS/Gel recipe?

[MARIANO DELISE]

My friend had psoriasis.  She put CS on gauze pads and placed directly on the 
psoriasis.  She then covered this with saran plastic wrap so the pad would 
remain moist all night.  After a couple of nights of direct contace, the 
psoriasis began to clear up.  Of course drinking it at the same time is a good 
idea.
Nancy
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rod STEVENSON 
  To: silverlist 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 11:05 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>CS/Gel recipe?


  Thanks James,
  I guessed that the properties of any CS might change with a gel, this is why 
I didn't want to jst add it to, an aloe vera gel for instance. 
  I have a patient with chronic and very stubborn psoriasis. It extends from 
the back of the head, then in various size patches over the back and the back 
of the legs to the lateral surface of the lower leg. Over a peroid of many 
months the fungal infection/psoriasis that covered most of her toe/fingernails 
has been resolved. I say fungal/psoriasis since even after several visits to a 
Harley Street dermatologist, a concrete diagnosis was never made.
  There has been some success using a seven star needle (trad. acupunture 
technique) which has improved since I started making my own CS (with an SG7) 
and cleaning the "graze" that results from a heavy 7SN technique.
  So, the reason I want to combine CS with a gel is to have the CS in contact 
with the skin for 90%+ of the time rather than the hour or so that I see her 
for.
  Sorry this is a little involved, but I thought that the reason I need a gel 
recipe was important.
  Many thanks for any help
  Rod Stevenson
  PS After doing my own tests on my home produced CS, with milk, yeast meat 
etc, I now use CS to disinfect surfaces and sterilize all my equipment (other 
than needles -which are single use ) 
  You might not know it but this is about as strong a recommendation as I could 
ever give.   
- Original Message - 
From: James Osbourne, Holmes 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 12:00 AM
    Subject: RE: CS>CS/Gel recipe?


Studies of CS against bacteria done on plated nutrients do not work as well 
as those done in broth. 
A jell is a colloid itself.  This may change the properties of CS from that 
of a liquid preparation. 

James-Osbourne: Holmes
  -Original Message-
  From: Rod STEVENSON [mailto:r...@stevenson7399.fsnet.co.uk]
  Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 4:58 PM
  To: silverlist
  Subject: CS>CS/Gel recipe?


  Hi List,
  Does anyone know of a preprepared gel, that can be combined with CS? 
Better still would be a list of ingredients and method to make my (our) own.
  Any ideas?
  TIA
  Rod.

RE: CS>CS/Gel recipe?

[James Osbourne, Holmes]

Re: CS>CS/Gel recipe?I saw one remarkable case where silver foil was laid
over the burned area; a face.  It seemed miraculous. Fireworks accident.  I
can't recall if there was any 3rd degree, but I know there was some 2nd.  No
scarring.

James-Osbourne: Holmes
  -Original Message-
  From: Jack Dayton [mailto:jack...@harbornet.com]
  Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 12:56 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CS>CS/Gel recipe?





From: "Rod STEVENSON" 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 17:05:05 +0100
To: "silverlist" 
Subject: Re: CS>CS/Gel recipe?
Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 09:05:07 -0700


  So, the reason I want to combine CS with a gel is to have the CS in
contact with the skin for 90%+ of the time rather than the hour or so that I
see her for.

  Being new to CS I'm not sure if this suggestion has any validity,
  but burn victims on occasion are treated with sheets of some
  type of material to lay over the burn area I think it might
  come pre-wetted with CS and probably something in addition.

  Since the area being treated is on the surface this should accomplish
  what you are looking for.   IMHO

  Jack

RE: CS>CS/Gel recipe?

[James Osbourne, Holmes]

Hi Rod,

Please do not put much weight on my speculation about CS in jells; for that
is all that it is.  Ask Marshall and Ivan and others for a better qualified
opinion.

How about giving the person a spray bottle? Spray on the silver, and then at
another time, apply the jell that has the other desirable ingredients? The
area could be quickly saturated with a spray, several times a day.

Adding MSM, according to Brooks Bradley, seems to improve the cell wall
receptivity to substances, but does not have the amazing transport
capabilities of DMSO.  Spraying on a mix---about 50/50 by volume of CS and
DMSO  probably gives the best penetration possible.  The down side is that
the user really reeks. No matter where you put it on, the whole person
stinks.

Good fortune with the problem.


James-Osbourne: Holmes
  -Original Message-
  From: Rod STEVENSON [mailto:r...@stevenson7399.fsnet.co.uk]
  Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 10:05 AM
  To: silverlist
  Subject: Re: CS>CS/Gel recipe?


  Thanks James,
  I guessed that the properties of any CS might change with a gel, this is
why I didn't want to jst add it to, an aloe vera gel for instance.
  I have a patient with chronic and very stubborn psoriasis. It extends from
the back of the head, then in various size patches over the back and the
back of the legs to the lateral surface of the lower leg. Over a peroid of
many months the fungal infection/psoriasis that covered most of her
toe/fingernails has been resolved. I say fungal/psoriasis since even after
several visits to a Harley Street dermatologist, a concrete diagnosis was
never made.
  There has been some success using a seven star needle (trad. acupunture
technique) which has improved since I started making my own CS (with an SG7)
and cleaning the "graze" that results from a heavy 7SN technique.
  So, the reason I want to combine CS with a gel is to have the CS in
contact with the skin for 90%+ of the time rather than the hour or so that I
see her for.
  Sorry this is a little involved, but I thought that the reason I need a
gel recipe was important.
  Many thanks for any help
  Rod Stevenson
  PS After doing my own tests on my home produced CS, with milk, yeast meat
etc, I now use CS to disinfect surfaces and sterilize all my equipment
(other than needles -which are single use )
  You might not know it but this is about as strong a recommendation as I
could ever give.
- Original Message -
From: James Osbourne, Holmes
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 12:00 AM
    Subject: RE: CS>CS/Gel recipe?


Studies of CS against bacteria done on plated nutrients do not work as
well as those done in broth.
A jell is a colloid itself.  This may change the properties of CS from
that of a liquid preparation.

James-Osbourne: Holmes
  -Original Message-
  From: Rod STEVENSON [mailto:r...@stevenson7399.fsnet.co.uk]
  Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 4:58 PM
  To: silverlist
  Subject: CS>CS/Gel recipe?


  Hi List,
  Does anyone know of a preprepared gel, that can be combined with CS?
Better still would be a list of ingredients and method to make my (our) own.
  Any ideas?
  TIA
  Rod.

Re: CS>CS/Gel recipe?

[Jack Dayton]

From: "Rod STEVENSON" 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 17:05:05 +0100
To: "silverlist" 
Subject: Re: CS>CS/Gel recipe?
Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com
Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 09:05:07 -0700

So, the reason I want to combine CS with a gel is to have the CS in contact
with the skin for 90%+ of the time rather than the hour or so that I see her
for.

Being new to CS I'm not sure if this suggestion has any validity,
but burn victims on occasion are treated with sheets of some
type of material to lay over the burn area I think it might
come pre-wetted with CS and probably something in addition.

Since the area being treated is on the surface this should accomplish
what you are looking for.   IMHO

Jack

Re: CS>CS/Gel recipe?

[Rod STEVENSON]

Thanks James,
I guessed that the properties of any CS might change with a gel, this is why I 
didn't want to jst add it to, an aloe vera gel for instance. 
I have a patient with chronic and very stubborn psoriasis. It extends from the 
back of the head, then in various size patches over the back and the back of 
the legs to the lateral surface of the lower leg. Over a peroid of many months 
the fungal infection/psoriasis that covered most of her toe/fingernails has 
been resolved. I say fungal/psoriasis since even after several visits to a 
Harley Street dermatologist, a concrete diagnosis was never made.
There has been some success using a seven star needle (trad. acupunture 
technique) which has improved since I started making my own CS (with an SG7) 
and cleaning the "graze" that results from a heavy 7SN technique.
So, the reason I want to combine CS with a gel is to have the CS in contact 
with the skin for 90%+ of the time rather than the hour or so that I see her 
for.
Sorry this is a little involved, but I thought that the reason I need a gel 
recipe was important.
Many thanks for any help
Rod Stevenson
PS After doing my own tests on my home produced CS, with milk, yeast meat etc, 
I now use CS to disinfect surfaces and sterilize all my equipment (other than 
needles -which are single use ) 
You might not know it but this is about as strong a recommendation as I could 
ever give.   
  - Original Message - 
  From: James Osbourne, Holmes 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 12:00 AM
  Subject: RE: CS>CS/Gel recipe?


  Studies of CS against bacteria done on plated nutrients do not work as well 
as those done in broth. 
  A jell is a colloid itself.  This may change the properties of CS from that 
of a liquid preparation. 

  James-Osbourne: Holmes
-Original Message-
From: Rod STEVENSON [mailto:r...@stevenson7399.fsnet.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 4:58 PM
To: silverlist
Subject: CS>CS/Gel recipe?


Hi List,
Does anyone know of a preprepared gel, that can be combined with CS? Better 
still would be a list of ingredients and method to make my (our) own.
Any ideas?
TIA
Rod.

RE: CS>CS/Gel recipe?

[James Osbourne, Holmes]

Studies of CS against bacteria done on plated nutrients do not work as well
as those done in broth.
A jell is a colloid itself.  This may change the properties of CS from that
of a liquid preparation.

James-Osbourne: Holmes
  -Original Message-
  From: Rod STEVENSON [mailto:r...@stevenson7399.fsnet.co.uk]
  Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 4:58 PM
  To: silverlist
  Subject: CS>CS/Gel recipe?


  Hi List,
  Does anyone know of a preprepared gel, that can be combined with CS?
Better still would be a list of ingredients and method to make my (our) own.
  Any ideas?
  TIA
  Rod.