Re: CS>leg cramps

[Deborah Gerard]

 Your right Victor...I have added Boron to my regime too...
On Tuesday, July 17, 2018, 6:10:14 PM EDT, Victor Cozzetto 
 wrote:  
 
 Has anyone mentioned boron yet? This is also critical for the body to properly 
use magnesium, calcium, etc.
I've used this boron tonic: mix 1 teaspoon of borax into 1 quart of water and 
mix well. Use only 1 teaspoon of this base mixture mixed into a glass of water 
each day.
I have an old blog post discussing boron 
here:http://www.otezok.com/boron-arthritis-more/
Victor

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 3:53 PM, Dianne France  
wrote:

You may want to add potassium too. I’ve had them all my life. The calcium and 
potassium help. There is also a product called release made by dynamite. It’s 
wonderful. Spray on and it starts easing up. 



  

Re: CS>leg cramps

[glendajmason]

1 teaspoon of borax=5000mg=550mg of boron at 11% concentration of boron in 
borax, and therefore, 550 mg of boron in 1000ml (1 quart), with a serving size 
of 1 teaspoon at 200 teaspoons per quart - 2.75 mg of boron in a glass of water 
per teaspoon from the concentrate. Not that much, triple it to  3 teaspoon per 
glass of water, and you'll get 7.25 mg per day of boron, GOOD ENOUGH

 

 

 

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From: Victor Cozzetto 
To: silver-list 
Sent: Tue, Jul 17, 2018 3:10 pm
Subject: Re: CS>leg cramps



Has anyone mentioned boron yet? This is also critical for the body to properly 
use magnesium, calcium, etc.


I've used this boron tonic: mix 1 teaspoon of borax into 1 quart of water and 
mix well. Use only 1 teaspoon of this base mixture mixed into a glass of water 
each day.


I have an old blog post discussing boron here:
http://www.otezok.com/boron-arthritis-more/


Victor



On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 3:53 PM, Dianne France  
wrote:

You may want to add potassium too. I’ve had them all my life. The calcium and 
potassium help. There is also a product called release made by dynamite. It’s 
wonderful. Spray on and it starts easing up. 

Re: CS>leg cramps

[Victor Cozzetto]

Has anyone mentioned boron yet? This is also critical for the body to
properly use magnesium, calcium, etc.

I've used this boron tonic: mix 1 teaspoon of borax into 1 quart of water
and mix well. Use only 1 teaspoon of this base mixture mixed into a glass
of water each day.

I have an old blog post discussing boron here:
http://www.otezok.com/boron-arthritis-more/

Victor

On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 3:53 PM, Dianne France 
wrote:

> You may want to add potassium too. I’ve had them all my life. The calcium
> and potassium help. There is also a product called release made by
> dynamite. It’s wonderful. Spray on and it starts easing up.
>
>
>

Re: CS>leg cramps

[Dianne France]

You may want to add potassium too. I’ve had them all my life. The calcium and 
potassium help. There is also a product called release made by dynamite. It’s 
wonderful. Spray on and it starts easing up.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 17, 2018, at 5:37 PM, RaVen Sequoia 
mailto:aslra...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Thanks for the humorous response, David - 'Limp to the kitchen'... cracked me 
up so hard. :D




On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 10:16 PM, David Bearrow 
mailto:chip...@verizon.net>> wrote:
Helen,

Whenever I wake with a cramp (about once a month, usually my foot or big toe), 
I limp into my kitchen and fix myself a glass  of  a product called calm. 2 
teaspoons contains 325 mg of magnesium and it gets rid of the cramp within 5 
minutes. I really rely on this product .

Best regards,

David Bearrow
Anagogic Beachbum
chip...@verizon.net
608-364-4300

On Monday, July 16, 2018, Helena Hughes 
mailto:hhughes...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Dear Folks,

Can anyone help?  I use colloidal silver but my issue right now is leg cramps 
that wake me up several times a night.  I take magnesium but maybe  not the 
right type, brand? Any advice?
I do leg stretches, but I’m in a bad place with this right now.  I have an 
underlying condition of bronchiectasis and sleep is so important for me.
Any answers, advice, opinions,  gratefully received.
Thank you,
Helena



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Re: CS>leg cramps

[RaVen Sequoia]

Thanks for the humorous response, David - 'Limp to the kitchen'... cracked
me up so hard. :D




On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 10:16 PM, David Bearrow  wrote:

> Helen,
>
> Whenever I wake with a cramp (about once a month, usually my foot or big
> toe), I limp into my kitchen and fix myself a glass  of  a product called
> calm. 2 teaspoons contains 325 mg of magnesium and it gets rid of the cramp
> within 5 minutes. I really rely on this product .
>
> Best regards,
>
> David Bearrow
> Anagogic Beachbum
> chip...@verizon.net
> 608-364-4300
>
> On Monday, July 16, 2018, Helena Hughes  wrote:
>
>
> Dear Folks,
>
> Can anyone help?  I use colloidal silver but my issue right now is leg
> cramps that wake me up several times a night.  I take magnesium but maybe
>  not the right type, brand? Any advice?
> I do leg stretches, but I’m in a bad place with this right now.  I have an
> underlying condition of bronchiectasis and sleep is so important for me.
> Any answers, advice, opinions,  gratefully received.
> Thank you,
> Helena
>
>


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Re: CS>leg cramps

[ew]

Read More http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/custom/1981172/2#ixzz5LXy9UyVh

Potassium in the fruit (Bananas, Grapes, citrus fruits... love 'em all.

The problem with the cramps was only getting worse and worse... till the day I
realized that eating 3 grapes (or more of course) would be followed shortly by
severe cramps. :((( I've had problems with constipation and muscle cramps all
my life. As you will notice, there is a link between those two ;>  And I just 
don't
get around to taking stuff by schedule.  No patience.  So I only grab a bottle
of Magnesium (Doctor's Best High Absorption Magnesium 100% chelated with Albion 
Minerals...
Vegan) as I'm to busy with other stuff till I'm forced too...

With Almond milk, I think it's the calcium.  (Have food intolerance problems 
with Corn, Milk and
Wheat. : All my favorite foods. :(((

.
>From nutrition chart of Silk Almond milk:

http://nutritiondata.self.com/facts/custom/1981172/2

yep. The calcium:

Minerals
Amounts Per Selected Serving

%DV

Calcium 450 mg 45%

Magnesium 16.0mg 4%

Phosphorus 20.0 mg 2%

Potassium..apparently ~

..
https://happy.guide/2014/11/17/calcium-magnesium/

The quote below is from the google search:
Almonds and minerals from a quote from the above site.

"Image result for balance of calcium and magnesium
To add to the problem, magnesium needs to be in balance with calcium. They have 
opposite functions — for example
calcium contracts muscles, magnesium relaxes muscles. The ideal ratio of 
calcium to magnesium is thought to be 1:1 to
2:1 so if you're getting say 800 mg calcium, you'd need 400 – 800 mg 
magnesium.Nov 17, 2014"

Anita  (By the way, my bones are super-strong, but nails are bad unless I keep 
up with iodine (in the form of
Provodine externally applied.  Discovered it works to alleviate pain as well.  
(Bruises, smashed nails, sprained
fingers.. as will as itching)

.

>  Anita
> What do you think is in the almond milk and fruit that would cause the 
> cramping? 
> Thanks in advance,Debbie
> On Monday, July 16, 2018, 10:44:02 PM EDT, ew  
> wrote:
>
>  At one time muscle cramps would involve opposing muscles. Nothing more 
> painful in
> my experience as you have to endure them, you can't pull them out.
>
> I have found that if I indulge myself with fruit, or Almond milk, I will 
> shortly experience
> restless legs, then muscle cramps... and if I keep ignoring them, opposing 
> muscle
> cramps. :(
>
> And I've also come to recognize the energy that precedes restless legs.
> And the sleeplessness that precedes that energy.
>
> There is also a problem with my left hand 'freezing' into a claw to the point
> that I have to grab each finger one-at-a-time and force them to open. This is
> also magnesium related.
>
> And as someone that never gets-around-to taking pills unless forced to
>
> AnitaW
>
>> Helen,
>>
>> Whenever I wake with a cramp (about once a month, usually my foot or big 
>> toe), I limp into my kitchen and fix myself
>> a
>> glass  of  a product called calm. 2 teaspoons contains 325 mg of magnesium 
>> and it gets rid of the cramp within 5
>> minutes. I really rely on this product .
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> David Bearrow
>> Anagogic Beachbum
>> chip...@verizon.net
>> 608-364-4300
>>
>> On Monday, July 16, 2018, Helena Hughes  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Dear Folks,
>>
>> Can anyone help?  I use colloidal silver but my issue right now is leg 
>> cramps that wake me up several times a
>> night.
>> I take magnesium but maybe  not the right type, brand? Any advice?
>> I do leg stretches, but I’m in a bad place with this right now.  I 
>> have an underlying condition of
>> bronchiectasis
>> and sleep is so important for me.
>> Any answers, advice, opinions,  gratefully received.
>> Thank you,
>> Helena
>>
>
>
>
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Re: CS>leg cramps

[Deborah Gerard]

 Anita
What do you think is in the almond milk and fruit that would cause the 
cramping? 
Thanks in advance,Debbie
On Monday, July 16, 2018, 10:44:02 PM EDT, ew  
wrote:  
 
 At one time muscle cramps would involve opposing muscles. Nothing more painful 
in
my experience as you have to endure them, you can't pull them out.

I have found that if I indulge myself with fruit, or Almond milk, I will 
shortly experience
restless legs, then muscle cramps... and if I keep ignoring them, opposing 
muscle
cramps. :(

And I've also come to recognize the energy that precedes restless legs.
And the sleeplessness that precedes that energy.

There is also a problem with my left hand 'freezing' into a claw to the point
that I have to grab each finger one-at-a-time and force them to open. This is
also magnesium related.

And as someone that never gets-around-to taking pills unless forced to

AnitaW

> Helen,
>
> Whenever I wake with a cramp (about once a month, usually my foot or big 
> toe), I limp into my kitchen and fix myself a
> glass  of  a product called calm. 2 teaspoons contains 325 mg of magnesium 
> and it gets rid of the cramp within 5
> minutes. I really rely on this product .
>
> Best regards,
>
> David Bearrow
> Anagogic Beachbum
> chip...@verizon.net
> 608-364-4300
>
> On Monday, July 16, 2018, Helena Hughes  wrote:
>
>
> Dear Folks,
>
> Can anyone help?  I use colloidal silver but my issue right now is leg cramps 
> that wake me up several times a night.
> I take magnesium but maybe  not the right type, brand? Any advice?
> I do leg stretches, but I’m in a bad place with this right now.  I have an 
> underlying condition of bronchiectasis
> and sleep is so important for me.
> Any answers, advice, opinions,  gratefully received.
> Thank you,
> Helena
>



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Re: CS>leg cramps

[RaVen Sequoia]

I find Standard Process
Calcium Lactate which has magnesium in it helps a lot.
Highly recommended by chiropractors...,.
Magnesium works better with calcium in it.

Can buy in Amazon.



On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 9:30 PM, Helena Hughes  wrote:

>
> Dear Folks,
>
> Can anyone help?  I use colloidal silver but my issue right now is leg
> cramps that wake me up several times a night.  I take magnesium but maybe
>  not the right type, brand? Any advice?
> I do leg stretches, but I’m in a bad place with this right now.  I have an
> underlying condition of bronchiectasis and sleep is so important for me.
> Any answers, advice, opinions,  gratefully received.
> Thank you,
> Helena
>



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Re: CS>leg cramps

[Marshall]

My wife has had problems with nocturnal leg cramps for years.  She has 
them mostly under control now.  She uses the following:


Calcium and Magnesium supplement
potassium supplement
B complex supplement
drinks water before bed
CBD oil
and if they do strike Theraworx.

Marshall


On 7/16/2018 10:08 PM, Jean Baugh wrote:

Hi Helena,


It might be an electrolyte imbalance, like PT suggests.

I do legs stretches while prone, stretching my arms above my head and 
pulling my toes up toward my knees, or a full body stretch.  Feels 
great to do these.


Would an Epsom salt bath help with the magnesium?

They are highly advertising a homeopathic cream?, for leg cramps on TV 
but don’ t know the name.  Probably google would tell you.  It starts 
with a T.


Jean


*From:* Helena Hughes >

*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com 
*Sent:* Monday, July 16, 2018 9:31 PM
*Subject:* CS>leg cramps


Dear Folks,

Can anyone help?  I use colloidal silver but my issue right now is 
leg cramps that wake me up several times a night.  I take magnesium 
but maybe  not the right type, brand? Any advice?
I do leg stretches, but I’m in a bad place with this right now.  I 
have an underlying condition of bronchiectasis and sleep is so 
important for me.

Any answers, advice, opinions,  gratefully received.
Thank you,
Hele

Re: CS>leg cramps

[PT Ferrance]

Try ReMag or the ionic magnesium I wrote about.  The ReMag has no taste and you 
can mix it and some trace minerals in a bottle of water and drink throughout 
the day... no pills!PT


  From: ew 
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 10:43 PM
 Subject: Re: CS>leg cramps
   
At one time muscle cramps would involve opposing muscles. Nothing more painful 
in
my experience as you have to endure them, you can't pull them out.

I have found that if I indulge myself with fruit, or Almond milk, I will 
shortly experience
restless legs, then muscle cramps... and if I keep ignoring them, opposing 
muscle
cramps. :(

And I've also come to recognize the energy that precedes restless legs.
And the sleeplessness that precedes that energy.

There is also a problem with my left hand 'freezing' into a claw to the point
that I have to grab each finger one-at-a-time and force them to open. This is
also magnesium related.

And as someone that never gets-around-to taking pills unless forced to

AnitaW

> Helen,
>
> Whenever I wake with a cramp (about once a month, usually my foot or big 
> toe), I limp into my kitchen and fix myself a
> glass  of  a product called calm. 2 teaspoons contains 325 mg of magnesium 
> and it gets rid of the cramp within 5
> minutes. I really rely on this product .
>
> Best regards,
>
> David Bearrow
> Anagogic Beachbum
> chip...@verizon.net
> 608-364-4300
>
> On Monday, July 16, 2018, Helena Hughes  wrote:
>
>
> Dear Folks,
>
> Can anyone help?  I use colloidal silver but my issue right now is leg cramps 
> that wake me up several times a night.
> I take magnesium but maybe  not the right type, brand? Any advice?
> I do leg stretches, but I’m in a bad place with this right now.  I have an 
> underlying condition of bronchiectasis
> and sleep is so important for me.
> Any answers, advice, opinions,  gratefully received.
> Thank you,
> Helena
>



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Re: CS>leg cramps

[PT Ferrance]

I forgot to mention, Helen, that depending on what meds you are on you can try 
things like cramp bark.  I take it internally and also make a salve out of it 
and rub it on.  I like it better than mag oil.PT 


  From: Helena Hughes 
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 9:31 PM
 Subject: CS>leg cramps
   

Dear Folks,
Can anyone help?  I use colloidal silver but my issue right now is leg cramps 
that wake me up several times a night.  I take magnesium but maybe  not the 
right type, brand? Any advice?I do leg stretches, but I’m in a bad place with 
this right now.  I have an underlying condition of bronchiectasis and sleep is 
so important for me.Any answers, advice, opinions,  gratefully received.Thank 
you,Helena

   

Re: CS>leg cramps

[Deborah Gerard]

 I started having these when I was put on thyroid medication. I have since 
weaned off it. I do the mag chloride crystals too but mix it with witch hazel 
instead of water so it is not so sticky.
On Monday, July 16, 2018, 9:31:09 PM EDT, Helena Hughes 
 wrote:  
 
 
Dear Folks,
Can anyone help?  I use colloidal silver but my issue right now is leg cramps 
that wake me up several times a night.  I take magnesium but maybe  not the 
right type, brand? Any advice?I do leg stretches, but I’m in a bad place with 
this right now.  I have an underlying condition of bronchiectasis and sleep is 
so important for me.Any answers, advice, opinions,  gratefully received.Thank 
you,Helena  

Re: CS>leg cramps

[ew]

At one time muscle cramps would involve opposing muscles. Nothing more painful 
in
my experience as you have to endure them, you can't pull them out.

I have found that if I indulge myself with fruit, or Almond milk, I will 
shortly experience
restless legs, then muscle cramps... and if I keep ignoring them, opposing 
muscle
cramps. :(

And I've also come to recognize the energy that precedes restless legs.
And the sleeplessness that precedes that energy.

There is also a problem with my left hand 'freezing' into a claw to the point
that I have to grab each finger one-at-a-time and force them to open. This is
also magnesium related.

And as someone that never gets-around-to taking pills unless forced to

AnitaW

> Helen,
>
> Whenever I wake with a cramp (about once a month, usually my foot or big 
> toe), I limp into my kitchen and fix myself a
> glass  of  a product called calm. 2 teaspoons contains 325 mg of magnesium 
> and it gets rid of the cramp within 5
> minutes. I really rely on this product .
>
> Best regards,
>
> David Bearrow
> Anagogic Beachbum
> chip...@verizon.net
> 608-364-4300
>
> On Monday, July 16, 2018, Helena Hughes  wrote:
>
>
> Dear Folks,
>
> Can anyone help?  I use colloidal silver but my issue right now is leg cramps 
> that wake me up several times a night.
> I take magnesium but maybe  not the right type, brand? Any advice?
> I do leg stretches, but I’m in a bad place with this right now.  I have an 
> underlying condition of bronchiectasis
> and sleep is so important for me.
> Any answers, advice, opinions,  gratefully received.
> Thank you,
> Helena
>



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Re: CS>leg cramps

[David Bearrow]

Helen,

Whenever I wake with a cramp (about once a month, usually my foot or big toe), 
I limp into my kitchen and fix myself a glass  of  a product called calm. 2 
teaspoons contains 325 mg of magnesium and it gets rid of the cramp within 5 
minutes. I really rely on this product .

Best regards,

David Bearrow
Anagogic Beachbum
chip...@verizon.net
608-364-4300

On Monday, July 16, 2018, Helena Hughes  wrote:


Dear Folks,

Can anyone help?  I use colloidal silver but my issue right now is leg cramps 
that wake me up several times a night.  I take magnesium but maybe  not the 
right type, brand? Any advice?
I do leg stretches, but I’m in a bad place with this right now.  I have an 
underlying condition of bronchiectasis and sleep is so important for me.
Any answers, advice, opinions,  gratefully received.
Thank you,
Helena

Re: CS>leg cramps

[Smitty]

Drink plenty of water
throughout the day...

On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 4:08 PM, Jean Baugh 
wrote:

> Hi Helena,
>
>
> It might be an electrolyte imbalance, like PT suggests.
>
> I do legs stretches while prone, stretching my arms above my head and
> pulling my toes up toward my knees, or a full body stretch.  Feels great to
> do these.
>
> Would an Epsom salt bath help with the magnesium?
>
> They are highly advertising a homeopathic cream?, for leg cramps on TV but
> don’ t know the name.  Probably google would tell you.  It starts with a T.
>
> Jean
>
> --
> *From:* Helena Hughes 
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Monday, July 16, 2018 9:31 PM
> *Subject:* CS>leg cramps
>
>
> Dear Folks,
>
> Can anyone help?  I use colloidal silver but my issue right now is leg
> cramps that wake me up several times a night.  I take magnesium but maybe
>  not the right type, brand? Any advice?
> I do leg stretches, but I’m in a bad place with this right now.  I have an
> underlying condition of bronchiectasis and sleep is so important for me.
> Any answers, advice, opinions,  gratefully received.
> Thank you,
> Helena
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>leg cramps

[PT Ferrance]

Hi Helen,Leg cramps can be do to a number of things.  I have found that an 
upset balance of calcium and magnesium OR sodium and potassium can be the 
cause.  

I use ReMag because it doesn't cause diarrhea which can make the magnesium 
deficiency worse.  I also use magnesium chelate.
Someone on another list wrote in about Good State Ionic Magnesium which is 
available on amazon as well.
I hope you find something soon.PT


  From: Helena Hughes 
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 9:31 PM
 Subject: CS>leg cramps
  

Dear Folks,
Can anyone help?  I use colloidal silver but my issue right now is leg cramps 
that wake me up several times a night.  I take magnesium but maybe  not the 
right type, brand? Any advice?I do leg stretches, but I’m in a bad place with 
this right now.  I have an underlying condition of bronchiectasis and sleep is 
so important for me.Any answers, advice, opinions,  gratefully received.Thank 
you,Helena

   

Re: CS>leg cramps

[STEVE LEVINE]

The easiest way to get a direct therapeutic dosage of magnesium into the legs 
is magnesium oil which is absorbed transdermally. The most economic way is to 
make the oil using mag chloride crystals 50/50 just add hot water and dissolve. 
I use this one.

https://www.amazon.com/ASUTRA-Zechstein-Magnesium-Chloride-Flakes/dp/B01KID9XK6/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1531791301&sr=8-2-fkmr0&keywords=ASUTRA%2BPure%2BZechstein%2BMagnesium%2Bcrystals&th=1
 
https://www.amazon.com/ASUTRA-Zechstein-Magnesium-Chloride-Flakes/dp/B01KID9XK6/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1531791301&sr=8-2-fkmr0&keywords=ASUTRA%2BPure%2BZechstein%2BMagnesium%2Bcrystals&th=1

 

Thanks

Stevehttp://www.energyhealersteve.com

702-768-1804

> On July 16, 2018 at 9:30 PM Helena Hughes  wrote:
> 
> 
> Dear Folks,
> 
> Can anyone help?  I use colloidal silver but my issue right now is leg 
> cramps that wake me up several times a night.  I take magnesium but maybe  
> not the right type, brand? Any advice?
> I do leg stretches, but I’m in a bad place with this right now.  I have 
> an underlying condition of bronchiectasis and sleep is so important for me.
> Any answers, advice, opinions,  gratefully received.
> Thank you,
> Helena
> 


 

RE: CS>Leg Cramps .. First Aid

[Faith Saint Francis]

I mentioned a little salt, like a knife-tip, do that under the tongue ..
a spoonful is irrational, and logically must cause other problems
F S F 
 


From: rrocho...@comcast.net
To: faithstfran...@hotmail.com
CC: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Leg Cramps .. First Aid
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 14:02:41 -0700





I did read somewhere that cramps were the result of salt depletion, so one 
night I woke up with leg cramps and got up, went into the kitchen and put a 
spoonful of salt in my mouth and washed it down with a little water. I very 
quickly forgot about my leg cramps as the pain in my stomach gained priority. I 
guess I didn't see the recommendation of using a "pinch".
 
Dick

- Original Message - 
From: Faith Saint Francis 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 5:00 AM
Subject: RE: CS>Leg Cramps .. First Aid

Hello Beloved CS-Circle! 
I could not find the origin of this thread,
so I don't know if it has already worn out.
Yet: here is an incredibly easy trick to undo
yourself of (leg)cramps directly:
We walk long distances (6 to 8 hours) in the
high Andes Mountains, and people are apt to
get leg-cramps, very painful, so:
Press, with your fingertip, directly under 
the nose, between the nostrils
where the septum begins.
Make tiny little circles with the fingertip, 
pressing hard, but without overdoing it;
do this three times, for three seconds.
Bye cramps!
As first aid, a little salt under the tongue 
will also do.
Like to serve, hope to help,
Leonardo "Faith"
Licensed, practising and devoted 
reflexology practitioner,
Health adviser,
and (since yesterday)
Dianetics Profesional Auditor.
 

 


From: zzekel...@aol.com
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 21:01:35 -0400
Subject: Re: CS>Leg Cramps 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com



 





Hi Dick, 



I know you did not ask, but here is my experience anyway.  I have ongoing 
electrolyte issues and have found that potassium works better for my leg cramps

I know this will sound like I'm way off my rocker. I know I did when a friend 
,{ several years ago } told me to " just try it.."  I would get killer cramps 
after a 5-6 mile hike...I put a bar of soap--{ I think Caress ) {also use Irish 
Spring } , some say ivory is best } under my bed sheet...Don't laugh---I have 
not had a cramp at night ever since...I e-mailed my friends with the crazy idea 
& found that 3 of them do the same thing---one girl even carries a bar of soap 
in her purse & has one in her desk drawer to rub on her leg if she gets a cramp 
during the day... I typed " leg cramps & soap " & did a  search. It's all there 
& it works for me...Lois 

Re: CS>Leg Cramps .. First Aid

[Dick Rochon]

I did read somewhere that cramps were the result of salt depletion, so one 
night I woke up with leg cramps and got up, went into the kitchen and put a 
spoonful of salt in my mouth and washed it down with a little water. I very 
quickly forgot about my leg cramps as the pain in my stomach gained priority. I 
guess I didn't see the recommendation of using a "pinch".

Dick
  - Original Message - 
  From: Faith Saint Francis 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 5:00 AM
  Subject: RE: CS>Leg Cramps .. First Aid


  Hello Beloved CS-Circle! 
  I could not find the origin of this thread,
  so I don't know if it has already worn out.
  Yet: here is an incredibly easy trick to undo
  yourself of (leg)cramps directly:
  We walk long distances (6 to 8 hours) in the
  high Andes Mountains, and people are apt to
  get leg-cramps, very painful, so:
  Press, with your fingertip, directly under 
  the nose, between the nostrils
  where the septum begins.
  Make tiny little circles with the fingertip, 
  pressing hard, but without overdoing it;
  do this three times, for three seconds.
  Bye cramps!
  As first aid, a little salt under the tongue 
  will also do.
  Like to serve, hope to help,
  Leonardo "Faith"
  Licensed, practising and devoted 
  reflexology practitioner,
  Health adviser,
  and (since yesterday)
  Dianetics Profesional Auditor.
   

   

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  From: zzekel...@aol.com
  Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 21:01:35 -0400
  Subject: Re: CS>Leg Cramps 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com



  Hi Dick, 


  I know you did not ask, but here is my experience anyway.  I have 
ongoing electrolyte issues and have found that potassium works better for my 
leg cramps
 

  I know this will sound like I'm way off my rocker. I know I did when a friend 
,{ several years ago } told me to " just try it.."  I would get killer cramps 
after a 5-6 mile hike...I put a bar of soap--{ I think Caress ) {also use Irish 
Spring } , some say ivory is best } under my bed sheet...Don't laugh---I have 
not had a cramp at night ever since...I e-mailed my friends with the crazy idea 
& found that 3 of them do the same thing---one girl even carries a bar of soap 
in her purse & has one in her desk drawer to rub on her leg if she gets a cramp 
during the day... I typed " leg cramps & soap " & did a  search. It's all there 
& it works for me...Lois

Re: CS>Leg Cramps

[Marshall Dudley]

 It has to do with etheric and orgone energies. I will be happy to 
explain on the off topic list if you ask there.


Marshall

On 10/16/2010 5:10 AM, jessie70 wrote:

what is DOR? thx. Jess

-Original Message-
*From:* jaxi [mailto:jaxi.sch...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Friday, October 15, 2010 10:57 PM
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Subject:* Re: CS>Leg Cramps

hhg???

On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Marshall Dudley
mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com>> wrote:

 Yes, soap transmutes DOR, and thus can be quite effective.
Orgonite would be better and have better range, but soap will
often work.  My wife used to get leg cramps almost every
night, but after putting an hhg under the bed they stopped
completely.

Marshall



On 10/15/2010 9:01 PM, zzekel...@aol.com
<mailto:zzekel...@aol.com> wrote:


   Hi Dick,

   I know you did not ask, but here is my experience
anyway.  I have
   ongoing electrolyte issues and have found that
potassium works
   better for my leg cramps

*I know this will sound like I'm way off my rocker. I know
I did when a friend ,{ several years ago } told me to "
just try it.."  I would get killer cramps after a 5-6 mile
hike...I put a bar of soap--{ I think Caress ) {also use
Irish Spring } , some say ivory is best } under my bed
sheet...Don't laugh---I have not had a cramp at night ever
since...I e-mailed my friends with the crazy idea & found
that 3 of them do the same thing---one girl even carries a
bar of soap in her purse & has one in her desk drawer to
rub on her leg if she gets a cramp during the day... I
typed " leg cramps & soap " & did a  search. It's all
there & it works for me...Lois*



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Re: CS>Leg Cramps

[Marshall Dudley]

 This has to do with energy, the etheric body, and the interaction of 
the two. Since some members here seem to be confusing working with 
ehteric and orgone energys with Religion, I will be happy to discuss it 
further on the off topic list.


Marshall

On 10/15/2010 10:57 PM, jaxi wrote:

hhg???

On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Marshall Dudley 
mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com>> wrote:


 Yes, soap transmutes DOR, and thus can be quite effective.
Orgonite would be better and have better range, but soap will
often work.  My wife used to get leg cramps almost every night,
but after putting an hhg under the bed they stopped completely.

Marshall



On 10/15/2010 9:01 PM, zzekel...@aol.com
 wrote:


   Hi Dick,

   I know you did not ask, but here is my experience anyway.
 I have
   ongoing electrolyte issues and have found that potassium works
   better for my leg cramps

*I know this will sound like I'm way off my rocker. I know I
did when a friend ,{ several years ago } told me to " just try
it.."  I would get killer cramps after a 5-6 mile hike...I put
a bar of soap--{ I think Caress ) {also use Irish Spring } ,
some say ivory is best } under my bed sheet...Don't laugh---I
have not had a cramp at night ever since...I e-mailed my
friends with the crazy idea & found that 3 of them do the same
thing---one girl even carries a bar of soap in her purse & has
one in her desk drawer to rub on her leg if she gets a cramp
during the day... I typed " leg cramps & soap " & did a
 search. It's all there & it works for me...Lois*



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Re: CS>leg cramps { PT } I didn't know it would work in the wrapper...

[ZZekelink]

 
In a message dated 10/15/2010 10:05:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
ptf2...@bellsouth.net writes:

I didn't put it under the sheet and it doesn't have to be  out of the 
wrapper either.  I just toss a couple of hotel bars into the  bed and they land 
where they land.
PT



 

RE: CS>Leg Cramps .. First Aid

[Faith Saint Francis]

Hello Beloved CS-Circle! 
I could not find the origin of this thread,
so I don't know if it has already worn out.
Yet: here is an incredibly easy trick to undo
yourself of (leg)cramps directly:
We walk long distances (6 to 8 hours) in the
high Andes Mountains, and people are apt to
get leg-cramps, very painful, so:
Press, with your fingertip, directly under 
the nose, between the nostrils
where the septum begins.
Make tiny little circles with the fingertip, 
pressing hard, but without overdoing it;
do this three times, for three seconds.
Bye cramps!
As first aid, a little salt under the tongue 
will also do.
Like to serve, hope to help,
Leonardo "Faith"
Licensed, practising and devoted 
reflexology practitioner,
Health adviser,
and (since yesterday)
Dianetics Profesional Auditor.
 

 


From: zzekel...@aol.com
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 21:01:35 -0400
Subject: Re: CS>Leg Cramps 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com




 





Hi Dick, 



I know you did not ask, but here is my experience anyway.  I have ongoing 
electrolyte issues and have found that potassium works better for my leg cramps

I know this will sound like I'm way off my rocker. I know I did when a friend 
,{ several years ago } told me to " just try it.."  I would get killer cramps 
after a 5-6 mile hike...I put a bar of soap--{ I think Caress ) {also use Irish 
Spring } , some say ivory is best } under my bed sheet...Don't laugh---I have 
not had a cramp at night ever since...I e-mailed my friends with the crazy idea 
& found that 3 of them do the same thing---one girl even carries a bar of soap 
in her purse & has one in her desk drawer to rub on her leg if she gets a cramp 
during the day... I typed " leg cramps & soap " & did a  search. It's all there 
& it works for me...Lois 

RE: CS>Leg Cramps

[jessie70]

what is DOR? thx. Jess
  -Original Message-
  From: jaxi [mailto:jaxi.sch...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 10:57 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CS>Leg Cramps


  hhg???


  On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Marshall Dudley 
wrote:

 Yes, soap transmutes DOR, and thus can be quite effective. Orgonite
would be better and have better range, but soap will often work.  My wife
used to get leg cramps almost every night, but after putting an hhg under
the bed they stopped completely.

Marshall



On 10/15/2010 9:01 PM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote:


 Hi Dick,

 I know you did not ask, but here is my experience anyway.  I have
 ongoing electrolyte issues and have found that potassium works
 better for my leg cramps


  *I know this will sound like I'm way off my rocker. I know I did when
a friend ,{ several years ago } told me to " just try it.."  I would get
killer cramps after a 5-6 mile hike...I put a bar of soap--{ I think
Caress ) {also use Irish Spring } , some say ivory is best } under my bed
sheet...Don't laugh---I have not had a cramp at night ever since...I
e-mailed my friends with the crazy idea & found that 3 of them do the same
thing---one girl even carries a bar of soap in her purse & has one in her
desk drawer to rub on her leg if she gets a cramp during the day... I typed
" leg cramps & soap " & did a  search. It's all there & it works for
me...Lois*



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Re: CS>Leg Cramps

[Dick Rochon]

Hi, Lois.

I did put a piece of Dove soap under my bed sheet and it helped. It was the 
sliver that is left when you take it out of the shower. Maybe a whole bar would 
work better, but I didn't want to keep banging my toes into it.

Thanks,

Dick
  - Original Message - 
  From: zzekel...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 6:01 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Leg Cramps 



  Hi Dick, 


  I know you did not ask, but here is my experience anyway.  I have 
ongoing electrolyte issues and have found that potassium works better for my 
leg cramps
 

  I know this will sound like I'm way off my rocker. I know I did when a friend 
,{ several years ago } told me to " just try it.."  I would get killer cramps 
after a 5-6 mile hike...I put a bar of soap--{ I think Caress ) {also use Irish 
Spring } , some say ivory is best } under my bed sheet...Don't laugh---I have 
not had a cramp at night ever since...I e-mailed my friends with the crazy idea 
& found that 3 of them do the same thing---one girl even carries a bar of soap 
in her purse & has one in her desk drawer to rub on her leg if she gets a cramp 
during the day... I typed " leg cramps & soap " & did a  search. It's all there 
& it works for me...Lois

Re: CS>Leg Cramps

[Dan Nave]

We tried this for my wife.  It didn't have any effect.  The best thing was
taking some magnesium chloride with water.  She likes the Emergen-C as well.

Dan

On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 8:17 PM, needling around wrote:

>  I've been recommending people do this for several years now and no one
> has had a cramp since.
> PT
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* zzekel...@aol.com
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Friday, October 15, 2010 9:01 PM
> *Subject:* Re: CS>Leg Cramps
>
>
>
>   Hi Dick,
>
>  I know you did not ask, but here is my experience anyway.  I have ongoing
> electrolyte issues and have found that potassium works better for my leg
> cramps
>
>  *I know this will sound like I'm way off my rocker. I know I did when a
> friend ,{ several years ago } told me to " just try it.."  I would get
> killer cramps after a 5-6 mile hike...I put a bar of soap--{ I think Caress
> ) {also use Irish Spring } , some say ivory is best } under my bed
> sheet...Don't laugh---I have not had a cramp at night ever since...I
> e-mailed my friends with the crazy idea & found that 3 of them do the same
> thing---one girl even carries a bar of soap in her purse & has one in her
> desk drawer to rub on her leg if she gets a cramp during the day... I typed
> " leg cramps & soap " & did a  search. It's all there & it works for
> me...Lois*
>
>

Re: CS>Leg Cramps

[cking001]

Heh...
Stands for Holy Hand Grenade...but I'll let Marshall explain...
Or google...

Chuck
"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a
difference in the world.
But the U.S. ARMED FORCES don't have that problem."  
. Ronald Reagan


On 10/15/2010 10:57:03 PM, jaxi (jaxi.sch...@gmail.com) wrote:
> hhg???
> 
> On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Marshall Dudley  [link: mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com]> wrote:
>  Yes, soap transmutes DOR, and thus can be quite effective. Orgonite would
> be better and have better range, but soap will often work.  My wife used
> to get leg cramps almost every night, but after putting an hhg under the
> bed they stopped completely.
> 
> Marshall


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Re: CS>Leg Cramps

[jaxi]

hhg???

On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Marshall Dudley wrote:

>  Yes, soap transmutes DOR, and thus can be quite effective. Orgonite would
> be better and have better range, but soap will often work.  My wife used to
> get leg cramps almost every night, but after putting an hhg under the bed
> they stopped completely.
>
> Marshall
>
>
>
> On 10/15/2010 9:01 PM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote:
>
>>
>>Hi Dick,
>>
>>I know you did not ask, but here is my experience anyway.  I have
>>ongoing electrolyte issues and have found that potassium works
>>better for my leg cramps
>>
>> *I know this will sound like I'm way off my rocker. I know I did when a
>> friend ,{ several years ago } told me to " just try it.."  I would get
>> killer cramps after a 5-6 mile hike...I put a bar of soap--{ I think Caress
>> ) {also use Irish Spring } , some say ivory is best } under my bed
>> sheet...Don't laugh---I have not had a cramp at night ever since...I
>> e-mailed my friends with the crazy idea & found that 3 of them do the same
>> thing---one girl even carries a bar of soap in her purse & has one in her
>> desk drawer to rub on her leg if she gets a cramp during the day... I typed
>> " leg cramps & soap " & did a  search. It's all there & it works for
>> me...Lois*
>>
>
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Re: CS>Leg Cramps

[Marshall Dudley]

 Yes, soap transmutes DOR, and thus can be quite effective. Orgonite 
would be better and have better range, but soap will often work.  My 
wife used to get leg cramps almost every night, but after putting an hhg 
under the bed they stopped completely.


Marshall


On 10/15/2010 9:01 PM, zzekel...@aol.com wrote:


Hi Dick,

I know you did not ask, but here is my experience anyway.  I have
ongoing electrolyte issues and have found that potassium works
better for my leg cramps

*I know this will sound like I'm way off my rocker. I know I did when 
a friend ,{ several years ago } told me to " just try it.."  I would 
get killer cramps after a 5-6 mile hike...I put a bar of soap--{ I 
think Caress ) {also use Irish Spring } , some say ivory is best } 
under my bed sheet...Don't laugh---I have not had a cramp at night 
ever since...I e-mailed my friends with the crazy idea & found that 3 
of them do the same thing---one girl even carries a bar of soap in her 
purse & has one in her desk drawer to rub on her leg if she gets a 
cramp during the day... I typed " leg cramps & soap " & did a  search. 
It's all there & it works for me...Lois*



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Re: CS>Leg Cramps

[needling around]

I've been recommending people do this for several years now and no one has had 
a cramp since.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: zzekel...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 9:01 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Leg Cramps 



  Hi Dick, 


  I know you did not ask, but here is my experience anyway.  I have 
ongoing electrolyte issues and have found that potassium works better for my 
leg cramps
 

  I know this will sound like I'm way off my rocker. I know I did when a friend 
,{ several years ago } told me to " just try it.."  I would get killer cramps 
after a 5-6 mile hike...I put a bar of soap--{ I think Caress ) {also use Irish 
Spring } , some say ivory is best } under my bed sheet...Don't laugh---I have 
not had a cramp at night ever since...I e-mailed my friends with the crazy idea 
& found that 3 of them do the same thing---one girl even carries a bar of soap 
in her purse & has one in her desk drawer to rub on her leg if she gets a cramp 
during the day... I typed " leg cramps & soap " & did a  search. It's all there 
& it works for me...Lois

Re: CS>Leg Cramps

[ZZekelink]

 


Hi  Dick,  


I know you did not  ask, but here is my experience anyway.  I have ongoing 
electrolyte  issues and have found that potassium works better for my leg  
cramps


I know this will sound like I'm way off my rocker. I  know I did when a 
friend ,{ several years ago } told me to " just try  it.."  I would get killer 
cramps after a 5-6 mile hike...I put a bar of  soap--{ I think Caress ) 
{also use Irish Spring } , some say ivory is  best } under my bed sheet...Don't 
laugh---I have not had a cramp at night  ever since...I e-mailed my friends 
with the crazy idea & found that 3 of  them do the same thing---one girl 
even carries a bar of soap in her purse &  has one in her desk drawer to rub on 
her leg if she gets a cramp during the  day... I typed " leg cramps & soap 
" & did a  search.  It's all there & it works for  me...Lois