Re: [SLUG] dyndns and apache

[Jeff Waugh]

> That sort of thing has worked for me... Not with a dial-up tho.


Ugh, I meant, "Not that I've tried it with a dial-up tho."

:)

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Re: [SLUG] dyndns and apache

[Jeff Waugh]

Howdy,


> enterfornone:
> On the subject of dyndns - i have *.enterfornone.dyndns.org pointing to
> my dialup.  Is there a way of getting apache virtual servers working
> with this?   appears to require a static ip.  I guess i could
> make a sed script in ipup to update it but is there an easier way?


I haven't tried it, but I can't see why the following wouldn't work:


BindAddress *


ServerName enterfornone.dyndns.org
ServerAlias www.enterfornone.dyndns.org
ServerAlias enterfornone.com
ServerAlias www.enterfornone.com



That sort of thing has worked for me... Not with a dial-up tho.

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[SLUG] dyndns and apache

[enterfornone]

On the subject of dyndns - i have *.enterfornone.dyndns.org pointing to
my dialup.  Is there a way of getting apache virtual servers working
with this?   appears to require a static ip.  I guess i could
make a sed script in ipup to update it but is there an easier way?


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Re: [SLUG] Dnamic DNS with Linux domains?

[Graeme Merrall]

On Sat, Aug 19, 2000 at 04:22:52PM +1000, Arunava Sen wrote:
> I have one of these penguinpowered.com dynamic dns thingies so i can
> access my ip with: whatever.penguinpowered.com
> 
> anyone know of any other cool linux-sounding dynamic dns things (which
> are not as long as "penguinpowered")?

One of the shorter ones out it no-ip.com which also has wildcard DNS and
will do MX records as well.

Cheers,
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Re: [SLUG] Redhat Patch for Netscape Java Prob

[Roland Turner]

Matt wrote:

> Has IE ever had a problem this bad ?

And then some. Look for "exploder" and ActiveX.

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RE: [SLUG] Dnamic DNS with Linux domains?

[Dave Kempe]

I use dyndns.org is that linux sounding enough?
They also have heaps of other domains to choose from

dave

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Arunava Sen
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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [SLUG] Dnamic DNS with Linux domains?
> 
> 
> I have one of these penguinpowered.com dynamic dns thingies so i can
> access my ip with: whatever.penguinpowered.com
> 
> anyone know of any other cool linux-sounding dynamic dns things (which
> are not as long as "penguinpowered")?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Arun
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[SLUG] Dnamic DNS with Linux domains?

[Arunava Sen]

I have one of these penguinpowered.com dynamic dns thingies so i can
access my ip with: whatever.penguinpowered.com

anyone know of any other cool linux-sounding dynamic dns things (which
are not as long as "penguinpowered")?

Thanks

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RE: [SLUG] Weird Error

[Daron Barndon]

Thats what I thought as well - but he gets the message scrolling quite
quickly - not through changing the CD.

Thanks

Daron

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Subject: Re: [SLUG] Weird Error


On Sat, Aug 19, 2000 at 12:58:03AM +1000, Daron Barndon wrote:
> VFS: Disk change detected on device ide1(22,64)

> Any ideas?

Doesn't Win^H^H^Hredhat have some daemon running that detects when
a cdrom is inserted and prompts you if you want to mount it?

I'd guess that it something along those lines thats causing the
problem. But the lockups might be unrelated.

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Re: [SLUG] Browser for X under 24Mb

[Jeff Waugh]

Howdy Terry,

Hope the day has been good. :) Can we put a review up on the SLUG page for
you?


> Looking for recommendations for a browser that can run under X running
> on a 24Mb machine. The user is a begineer. gui preferred. Windows
> Manager is Fwm???


Encompass:
  http://www.geocities.com/lordzephyroth/encompass.html

Based on gtkhtml, so it ought to be reasonably tight. Looks like a nice
simple GUI browser, though I must admit I haven't tried it.


Galeon:
  http://galeon.sourceforge.net/

Galeon may be appropriate too, using the Mozilla rendering engine, Gecko.


Oh, and I *heartliy* recommend Links as a good console browser. It contains
almost all the useful features you'd expect from a graphical browser
(colour, background downloading, etc), but kicks the proverbial when it
comes to speed.

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Re: [SLUG] mounting unusual filesystems

[Tom Massey]

Daniel Freedman wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm wondering if anyone knows of a way to mount unusual partitions under
> linux (like, say, maybe old Mac (not even sure what filesystem they use)

You need to compile hfs (the Mac filesystem) support into the kernel,
and then you should be able to mount them just like any other disk - eg
`mount -t hfs /dev/fd0 /mnt/macfloppy' or something. Have a look in your
kernel source tree under fs/hfs/ for some details. This'll work unless
you're dealing with a floppy from a *really* old Mac ie before the Mac
Plus, they used a different file system which is not supported. The
other thing is that some Mac floppies are formatted in such a way as to
be physically incompatible with non-Mac drives - 400 and 800 k disks may
just be unreadable to your drive. I've had mixed success with this, more
modern floppies generally work, older ones often don't. The other thing
you might want to look at is the 'macutils' package, which has a bunch
of tools for dealing with Macintosh file formats.

> or even Apple II/IIgs disks (which were ProDos??)).

The Apple II's had ProDOS as an operating system, not sure of filesystem
type, but the IIGS can handle a bunch of different ones, including hfs
(Mac). In theory you could probably put stuff from a IIGS onto an hfs
disk, then copy it to your Linux box (so long as the floppy worked in
your drive). I really doubt you'd be able to get anything off an earlier
Apple II than IIGS, but if you work out how please tell me, I've got a
IIC. But if you want to do something really cool with your IIGS, run
Unix on it with GNO/ME
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[SLUG] Browser for X under 24Mb

[Terry Collins]

Okay Folks

Looking for recommendations for a browser that can run under X running
on a 24Mb machine. The user is a begineer. gui preferred. Windows
Manager is Fwm???

This question is coming live from the Mac Lug meeting
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Re: [SLUG] multi-link PPP

[DaZZa]

On Sat, 19 Aug 2000, Roland Turner wrote:

> - Have you actually costed an ISDN solution? You may find that, unless
> you use particularly cheap modems (which really will perform badly), the
> ISDN solution may not be as expensive as you are expecting.

Depends over what kind of time period you're talking.

The sheer cost of running a semi-permanent ISDN connection {$280, or
thereabouts, a month} compared to the savings of dialup calls {2, 3 drop
outs a week? Call it $4 a month per line} makes ISDN a whole lot more
expensive. ISDN also costs more to setup {ISDN router - $500 minimum -
ISDN card not much less - two modems? Maybe $300 each, ISDN installation
is also more expensive}. All up, setting up an ISDN link could cost as
much as $800, plus $280 for the first month's worth of calls/connect
charges.

Add to this the fact that ISP's charge _much_ more for a 64k ISDN account
{$500 a month, roughly?} than they do for two dialup accounts {2 x $50 a
month?}, and ISDN comes out behind.

However, the two big advantages you quoted make ISDN attractive if you're
serious - not to mention the fact that ISDN tends to have less degradation
from bad lines etc.

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[SLUG] fvwm 2.3.20 install and config files

[Subba Rao]

Hello,

I just got done compiling and installing FVWM2 2.3.20. The module
path is /usr/X11R6/libexec/fvwm/2.3.20/ . In the past (2.2.x and before)
the FVWM had a configuration file in $HOME, either (.fvwmrc or .fvwm2rc).
The new installation does not seem to be using the file I originally had,
i.e. $HOME/.fvwm2rc.

1. Where is the FVWM2 reading the configuration file from?

2. Why does FVWM does not start from XDM but works fine from GDM?

The "fvwm2" binary is installed in /usr/X11R6/bin. My distro is Slackware 7.1.

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Re: [SLUG] Weird Error

[chesty]

On Sat, Aug 19, 2000 at 12:58:03AM +1000, Daron Barndon wrote:
> VFS: Disk change detected on device ide1(22,64)

> Any ideas?

Doesn't Win^H^H^Hredhat have some daemon running that detects when 
a cdrom is inserted and prompts you if you want to mount it?

I'd guess that it something along those lines thats causing the
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Re: [SLUG] multi-link PPP

[Terry Collins]

Roland Turner wrote:
> 
> "Marshall, Joshua" wrote:
> 
> > Will the connection actually run at 66k with two 33k modem links? What
> > sort of reliability might I expect, for example, what happens if one link
> > dies - does it revert to 33k until the other link re-establishes?
> 
> Yes, but:
> 
> - You'll have (much) higher latency using modems than using ISDN (170ms
> vs. <20ms).

Yes but, Costing of Multi-link PPP is wonderfully better.

Total cost is PER LINK is 
 Setup = two modems and two line installations @ $173???
 Onoing $40/month (? what is business now per month) and worst case 1
call (25c/day)

Actually, the lines DO NOT have to be business lines.

No data charges, no time charges.

I serve WWW and email across a dial up link. The only people who have
trouble with the latency are spammers. 

...snip...
> - Have you actually costed an ISDN solution?

Yes, repeatedly over more than 10 years. 

> You may find that, unless
> you use particularly cheap modems (which really will perform badly), the
> ISDN solution may not be as expensive as you are expecting.

You will find that the ISDN link will bleed you dry unless you are
going to make a MOTZA each month.

Actually, badly tuned modems will perform badly, no matter what the
brand. 

Two 33K modems will get close to 66K depending on lines, modem tuning
and EQL/?. 






 

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[SLUG] Redhat Patch for Netscape Java Prob

[Matt]

http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2000-08-19-001-04-SC-RH

There's a link at the bottom of the page to patch the 
security hole in Netscape (with the Java and all that).

Has IE ever had a problem this bad ?

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Re: [SLUG] multi-link PPP

[Roland Turner]

"Marshall, Joshua" wrote:

> Will the connection actually run at 66k with two 33k modem links? What
> sort of reliability might I expect, for example, what happens if one link
> dies - does it revert to 33k until the other link re-establishes?

Yes, but:

- You'll have (much) higher latency using modems than using ISDN (170ms
vs. <20ms).

- Multi-link PPP will degrade correctly as individual links drop out.
Given that you are talking about using linux-2.2 (i.e. EQL) though, I
really don't know.

- Have you actually costed an ISDN solution? You may find that, unless
you use particularly cheap modems (which really will perform badly), the
ISDN solution may not be as expensive as you are expecting.


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Re: [SLUG] Copyright Amendment

[Roland Turner]

John Wiltshire wrote:

> Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that the Copyright Amendment
> Act currently back in the Senate has some relevance on the DeCSS /
> LiViD work inside Australia.  I've not yet figured out whether it
> expressly permits Open Sorce DVDs on Linux or denys it.  Does anyone
> else have any idea?
> 
> 
>http://search.aph.gov.au/search/ParlInfo.ASP?Folder=BILLS&Criteria=bill_id:r910;seq_num:0;&action=bookmark

APH's search engine is a crock (it has sessions intrinsic to its URLs).
Can you tell us what search string you used to get to it?

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Re: [SLUG] mounting unusual filesystems

[Daniel Freedman]

Hi,

In looking at the below response, I'm thinking that maybe I wasn't clear
in my last message. I know the fs of the floppies that I need to access,
some are formatted with AppleIIgs and some with an old MacOS (probably
around version 5 or 6, circa 1991).  Can Linux recognize these
filesystems, either natively or using additional code?

Thanks so much,
Daniel

On Sat, 19 Aug 2000, Terry Collins wrote:

> 
> If linux can recognise the FS type, then it can mount it.
> 
> > recognises the file (like, say, maybe old Mac 
> > (not even sure what filesystem they use) or even Apple II/IIgs disks 
> > (which were ProDos??)). 
> 
> The trick is finding if someone has coded this, either in system stuff
> or a app.
> 
> > I have some data (probably in ascii format or at least in something 
> > relatively close) on
> > these floppies that I'd love to move to a usable machine.
> 
> You need to think first about the filesystem on the floppy.
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Re: [SLUG] mounting unusual filesystems

[Terry Collins]

Daniel Freedman wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm wondering if anyone knows of a way to mount unusual partitions under
> linux 

man mount

If linux can recognise the FS type, then it can mount it.

> recognises the file (like, say, maybe old Mac 
> (not even sure what filesystem they use) or even Apple II/IIgs disks 
> (which were ProDos??)). 

The trick is finding if someone has coded this, either in system stuff
or a app.

> I have some data (probably in ascii format or at least in something 
> relatively close) on
> these floppies that I'd love to move to a usable machine.

You need to think first about the filesystem on the floppy.

> I scrounged a little around on the mount manpage as well as for info on
> fstab, but I couldn't find these filesystems. 

Try http://freshmeat.net (?) and search for filesystem stuff. Try
searching at google.com.



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Re: [SLUG] Sendmail Help

[Terry Collins]

Thom May wrote:

..snip..

> > > sendmail, less buggy, and no fricking macros - set up is plain
> >
> > Umm.. in what way is sendmail buggy?
> >
> Ok, i shouldn't have said buggy. I should have said old and
> wierd  :)

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[SLUG] mounting unusual filesystems

[Daniel Freedman]

Hi,

I'm wondering if anyone knows of a way to mount unusual partitions under
linux (like, say, maybe old Mac (not even sure what filesystem they use)
or even Apple II/IIgs disks (which were ProDos??)).  I have some data
(probably in ascii format or at least in something relatively close) on
these floppies that I'd love to move to a usable machine.  I don't even
really have access to these machines natively to get access to the data.
I scrounged a little around on the mount manpage as well as for info on
fstab, but I couldn't find these filesystems.  Incidentally, sometimes I
have trouble recognizing which filesystem listed in mount goes with what
machine (in other words I don't know the correlation between filesystem
and more recognized OS for the more esoteric cases).  Is this info listed
somewhere else?

Thanks for any suggestions.  I really appreciate it.

Take care,

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Re: [SLUG] Sendmail Help

[marty]

> > And to edit that, you have to go back to the original file,
> > change it there, and then recompile it, or else i'm sure
> > sendmail screams...
> 
> Umm.. no.

i think he is thinking of m4... the "new" way to generate sendmail.cf from
a "less cryptic" sendmail.mc

you have to regenerate sendmail.cf everytime you change sendmail.mc

later
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Re: [SLUG] Sendmail Help

[Scott Howard]

On Fri, Aug 18, 2000 at 04:29:07PM +0100, Thom May wrote:
> > DSmy.mail.server
> > 
> > A little more cryptic, but much shorter :)
>
> And to edit that, you have to go back to the original file,
> change it there, and then recompile it, or else i'm sure
> sendmail screams...

Umm.. no.

  Scott.


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Re: [SLUG] Sendmail Help

[Thom May]

At some point around Sat, Aug 19, 2000 at 01:14:49AM +1000, Scott Howard spaketh 
thusly:
> On Fri, Aug 18, 2000 at 04:02:49PM +0100, Thom May wrote:
> > Don't do it!!!
> > Have you looked at exim? http://www.exim.org/ - every bit as powerful as
> > sendmail, less buggy, and no fricking macros - set up is plain
> 
> Umm.. in what way is sendmail buggy?
> 
Ok, i shouldn't have said buggy. I should have said old and
wierd  :)

> > text, a lá:
> > ---
> > # Send all mail to a smarthost
> > 
> > smarthost:
> >   driver = domainlist
> >   transport = remote_smtp
> >   route_list = "* my.mail.server bydns_a"
> 
> DSmy.mail.server
> 
> A little more cryptic, but much shorter :)
> 
>   Scott
And to edit that, you have to go back to the original file,
change it there, and then recompile it, or else i'm sure
sendmail screams...

This was not a helpful response to the original post, I know -
but, as Jeff just said, alternatives are what Linux is *about*,
so the occasional eye opener is always good. I know i spent ages
screaming at sendmail before one of my friends pointed exim out
to me, and i've never looked back.
Now, if I can just get rid of this poxy netscape
mangling^Wmessaging server, i'll be well happy :)
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Re: [SLUG] Sendmail Help

[Scott Howard]

On Fri, Aug 18, 2000 at 04:02:49PM +0100, Thom May wrote:
> Don't do it!!!
> Have you looked at exim? http://www.exim.org/ - every bit as powerful as
> sendmail, less buggy, and no fricking macros - set up is plain

Umm.. in what way is sendmail buggy?

> text, a lá:
> ---
> # Send all mail to a smarthost
> 
> smarthost:
>   driver = domainlist
>   transport = remote_smtp
>   route_list = "* my.mail.server bydns_a"

DSmy.mail.server

A little more cryptic, but much shorter :)

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Re: [SLUG] Sendmail Help

[Jeff Waugh]

> Jeremy Kerwin wrote:
> 
> Some of you will say that "Sendmail is installed when your install Linux". 
> Yes that is true, but I removed it to implement qmail, now, I'm going back to
> Sendmail and it's a bit more difficult than what I anticipated.


Hi Jeremy,

I tried hard not to send this email, because I know how frustrating it is to
receive answers such as this, but given that answers such as this have
opened my eyes to some incredible software before... I thought I'd better
just in case.

You may like to try Postfix instead.

There is a fair amount of documentation, clear and concise, aimed at giving
solutions to problems, not being everything to everyone.


  Australian Postfix Mirror (docs section):
  http://postfix.mirror.aarnet.edu.au/docs.html

  RedHat Postfix HOWTO:
  http://www.it.redhat.com/support/docs/howto/RH-postfix-HOWTO/book1.html

  RedHat Postfix FAQ:
  http://www.it.redhat.com/support/docs/faqs/RH-postfix-FAQ/book1.html


Not that the RedHat FAQ and HOWTO are full of very useful information, and
are only RedHat-specific where they need to be. Which isn't much. ;)

Postfix was designed to be simpler than Sendmail, and whilst I'm sure a few
of the traditionalists on the list will object, for simple purposes (and
some quite complex ones) I can't see why you wouldn't use it.

- Jeff


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Re: [SLUG] Sendmail Help

[Thom May]

Don't do it!!!
Have you looked at exim? http://www.exim.org/ - every bit as powerful as
sendmail, less buggy, and no fricking macros - set up is plain
text, a lá:
---
# Send all mail to a smarthost

smarthost:
  driver = domainlist
  transport = remote_smtp
  route_list = "* my.mail.server bydns_a"

end
---
debian comes with exim as standard, but source and i believe
rpms are available from the aforementioned uri.

cheers,
Thom

At some point around Fri, Aug 18, 2000 at 07:51:10AM -0700, Jeremy Kerwin spaketh 
thusly:
> Greetings all
> 
> I would like some help in installing and configuring Sendmail.
> 
> From all the documentation that I have encountered it is very disorganised.
> 
> Would anyone have, or know where there is a HOWTO document (or any document
> really) that can tell me step by step what I need to do to install
> sendmail...
> 
> Some of you will say that "Sendmail is installed when your install Linux". 
> Yes that is true, but I removed it to implement qmail, now, I'm going back to
> Sendmail and it's a bit more difficult than what I anticipated.
> 
> Thanks heaps for your help...
> 
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Re: [SLUG] Sendmail Help

[Andreas Mueller]

On Fri, Aug 18, 2000 at 07:51:10AM -0700, Jeremy Kerwin wrote:

It depends your knowlegges, you install source or a package ?
Its a Redhat or Debian Package ? The most Linux Disp.
have their Paketmanagers, Debian "deselct" SuSe "yast" 
Very good Documentation, see http://www.sendmail.org

amu

> 
> I would like some help in installing and configuring Sendmail.
> 
> >From all the documentation that I have encountered it is very disorganised.
> 
> Would anyone have, or know where there is a HOWTO document (or any document
> really) that can tell me step by step what I need to do to install
> sendmail...
> 
> Some of you will say that "Sendmail is installed when your install Linux". 
> Yes that is true, but I removed it to implement qmail, now, I'm going back to
> Sendmail and it's a bit more difficult than what I anticipated.
> 
> Thanks heaps for your help...
> 
> 
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>http://home.netscape.com/webmail
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[SLUG] Weird Error

[Daron Barndon]

I have a collegue running RH6.2. When he runs up X (Gnome) and only when he
runs X he gets

VFS: Disk change detected on device ide1(22,64)

repeated over and over again in dmesg. He can run X for a couple of days
before his machine locks up...

As I understand it he used to have a hard disk on this ide channel but now
has a cdrom.

Any ideas?

Thanks

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[SLUG] Sendmail Help

[Jeremy Kerwin]

Greetings all

I would like some help in installing and configuring Sendmail.

From all the documentation that I have encountered it is very disorganised.

Would anyone have, or know where there is a HOWTO document (or any document
really) that can tell me step by step what I need to do to install
sendmail...

Some of you will say that "Sendmail is installed when your install Linux". 
Yes that is true, but I removed it to implement qmail, now, I'm going back to
Sendmail and it's a bit more difficult than what I anticipated.

Thanks heaps for your help...


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Re: ELKS (was Re: [SLUG] damn navigator...)

[Tom Massey]

Ken Yap wrote:
> Yes, if you don't have another 5.25" drive you'd have to move them
> around this way.  I have quite a few working drives if you want one.

Love one. Drop me an email about prices etc. (Does nobody but me feel a
certain thrill about the possibilities of a 5.25" drive in your Linux
box? Run early Sierra games with Sarien. Have contact with those files
you gave up for lost ten years ago. Generally freak people out with
those huge floppies that actually were floppy. OK, I'll shut up, you've
all probably got 12" drives hooked up or something :-)

> Are you serious about running Quake on a 0.1 bogomips machine?  :-)

Absolutely!! But are you serious about using bogomips to judge a
machines power? ;-) You've never heard of ttyquake I see
. Everybody should read this
page, it's a laugh even if you're not crazy enough to try playing it.
Unfortunately, I was... To quote from the web page 'This is quite
possibly the most inherently wrong thing in the world today'.

> You
> can also netboot ELKS, btw, there is a makefile entry for it.

Do you have any more details about how to do this? Do you mean the ELKS
makefile? I skimmed through that pretty quickly...

> Another possibility is to upgrade the XT board to an AT or 386, then you
> can hook a 1,44 MB floppy to it. I also have lots of AT and 386 boards.

Tempting - though reluctant to give up the ability to say I use an XT,
huh - sucks to that, you AT using 1u53r5! ;-) I imagine this would
involve a fairly major upgrade of the machine though? As in, need a new
processor etc? Though I could be completely wrong. Definitely be
interested in seeing what you've got though. I may buy the lot, just to
have a pile of interesting looking boards. :-)

> If you want to turn the XT into a permanent VT100 terminal, I have a
> ROMable program that will do that if you have spare ROM slots on your
> board, see http://members.xoom.com/ken_yap/

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Re: [SLUG] Unique sorting

[Herbert Xu]

Howard Lowndes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If I have a list of IPs with many duplicates, what is the best way to
> extract a list of unique IPs?

sort -u
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Re: [SLUG] Recommendations for WorldTime Programs

[Scott Howard]

On Fri, Aug 18, 2000 at 09:36:48PM +1000, Matt wrote:
> What does everyone think is a good program
> for working out the time in other parts of 
> the world ? It doesnt have to be graphical 

A few options :

milliways:~$ TZ=US/Pacific date
Friday August 18 06:37:45 PDT 2000

milliways:~$ zdump US/Pacific Australia/West
US/Pacific  Fri Aug 18 06:38:06 2000 PDT
Australia/West  Fri Aug 18 21:38:06 2000 WST

You can get a full list of the timezones from /usr/share/lib/zoneinfo

Web-wise  http://www.whitepages.com.au/wp/time.shtml  works really well.

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Re: [SLUG] Unique sorting

[Terry Collins]

Howard Lowndes wrote:
> 
> It's Friday and nearly turps time, and I have been under DoS most of the
> day, so the brain is pretty addled.
> 
> If I have a list of IPs with many duplicates, what is the best way to
> extract a list of unique IPs?

sort -u

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Re: [SLUG] List guidelines (jobs etc.)

[Terry Collins]

Jamie Honan wrote:
> 
> Having been guilty of a small notice myself, perhaps
> for simplicity sake maybe we ought to not encourage them.
> (i.e. ban them : first post private netiquette hint, second
> is final)

Jamie - your add was the sort of add I like to see; relevant, spot on
and I know it is genuine.


> What would be nice, however, is to have someone summarise
> on a weekly basis the ads on the Linux Australia page. This
> would encourage people to use this resource more.

This list floods or droughts and you can get it automatically mailed
to you. It is in drought mode at the moment. However, just because it
is on this list, doesn't mean it is a genuine job - there have been
some real time waster jobs posted.

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Re: [SLUG] interesting rumour, IE on linux

[Carlo Nizeti]

They had a Unix Version a few years back, didn't work but hey you get that.
But Microsoft would not open up internet explorer, it took Netscape
programmers ages before they released mozilla and they where going for 0
bugs. Microsoft are motivated by money, thus as you say what would they
achieve.

Would linux distributions ever ship with something that was not open
source??


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> From: "Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 00:51:53 +1000
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [SLUG] interesting rumour, IE on linux
> 
>> looks like IE and media player are going to be (being?) ported.
> 
> ok, this is interesting to me from a different perspective. MS seem to
> revolve around the dollar, so why are they doing this? is it going to be
> freeware? open source? or a commercial app?
> 
> i would certainly use it if it were to be free.
> 
> nelson
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Re: [SLUG] Calling all UNIX & HP Openview Specialists!!

[Terry Collins]

Rev Simon Rumble wrote:

...snip...
> Hehe.  Reminds me of an interview I had back in 1996 or so with a
> recruiter.  They had this blanket form you had to fill in to list your
> skills.  Under programming they had "HTML".  I said, I'm not a
> programmer but I do HTML.  They said "well, just put it in there for
> now."  

That's okay. I know two agencies that have a similar skills form,
filled in within 12 months, that includes such stuff as dBaseII and
Supercalc = like we are talking CPM stuff here folks, plus MPM. The
young kids thought I was a bit funny when I suggested it was time to
update the form.

Yes, I got the  "Oh woow, you can do all this" and a similar string of
inappropriate job offers.


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[SLUG] Re: List guidelines (jobs etc.)

[Terry Collins]

Conrad Parker wrote:

..snip...

> Any other suggestions? is this too broad or too narrow?

Conrad

I think it was fine. Linux jobs from "Sluggers".

Unfortunately, agencies are a total, bloody nusiance of useless people
and it is a total waste of time trying to educate them. Even my wife
is fed up with their stupidity and I'm largely dependent on them for
work. Most of them have no idea what the job is about.


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ELKS (was Re: [SLUG] damn navigator...)

[Tom Massey]

Heracles wrote:

> Ever tried ELKS. I had it running on an old XT some years ago. It should be
> in a more advanced state now.

Thanks for this - looks quite interesting, I hadn't heard of it before.
Embeddable Linux Kernel Subset  is the
current home page I think if anybody's interested. Don't suppose this
could be offered as a distro option at the Install fest? ;-) I'm
wondering if anybody has any ideas on how I could get the disk images
for ELKS onto 360 K 5.25" floppies (and if anybody knows of a company
still making these disks I'd love to hear about it - running dangerously
low here). Basic setup - XT currently connected with null modem cable to
my main Linux box, running terminal emulation using an ancient version
of Crosstalk Communicator for DOS, so basically just acting as a tty
(except when playing games at the massively overclocked speed of 10 MHz
- hell the normal speed is 4.77, imagine getting this % of speed
increase from todays processors :-). Does anybody know how I could
transfer the ELKS disk images to the XT using this setup, and then write
to floppy using rawrite from there? Or would I be better off pulling the
5.25" drive out of the XT, sticking it in my main Linux box, writing the
images using dd, moving the drive back and so on? My eventual goal is to
run Quake III for Linux on the XT, is this unrealistic? ;-) Any
thoughts/useful HOW-TO's/web pages etc?

TIA, Tom


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[SLUG] Recommendations for WorldTime Programs

[Matt]

What does everyone think is a good program
for working out the time in other parts of 
the world ? It doesnt have to be graphical 

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Re: [SLUG] Unique sorting

[Jim Hague]

On 18-Aug-2000 Howard Lowndes wrote:
> If I have a list of IPs with many duplicates, what is the best way to
> extract a list of unique IPs?

sort iplist | uniq

This is in 'Software Tools', Kernighan & Plauger, I think. Provided you can
stomach RATFOR.

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Re: [SLUG] Unique sorting

[John Clarke]

On Fri, Aug 18, 2000 at 06:26:42PM +1000, Howard Lowndes wrote:

> If I have a list of IPs with many duplicates, what is the best way to
> extract a list of unique IPs?

  sort -t '.' -n +0 +1 +2 +3 < list | uniq

will sort them into numerical order and strip duplicates.

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Re: [SLUG] Unique sorting

[Andreas Mueller]

On Fri, Aug 18, 2000 at 06:26:42PM +1000, Howard Lowndes wrote:
> It's Friday and nearly turps time, and I have been under DoS most of the
> day, so the brain is pretty addled.
> 

:)

> If I have a list of IPs with many duplicates, what is the best way to
> extract a list of unique IPs?
> 

a nice script with awk ?
 
#!/bin/bash
filename="blubb.txt"
for i in `cat $filename | awk -F  

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Re: [SLUG] Unique sorting

[Conrad Parker]

On Fri, Aug 18, 2000 at 06:26:42PM +1000, Howard Lowndes wrote:
> It's Friday and nearly turps time, and I have been under DoS most of the
> day, so the brain is pretty addled.
> 
> If I have a list of IPs with many duplicates, what is the best way to
> extract a list of unique IPs?
> 

| uniq

> pub

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Re: [SLUG] Unique sorting

[Matt]

Some  first  tools can sort  a list  for you 
and remove duplicates,  I haven't been using
Linux for long but I know that under Windows 
you can  use UltraEdit,  under the file menu
there  is a  SORT command with an  option to
remove duplicates.  It's worth a  try if you 
have a Windows machine handy.

I also had a quick look at  SORT under Linux, 
it  doesn't  seem  to  have  such  a feature,
although you could sort the list and  then do
some  kind of  regular  expressions  stuff if
that's your thing.

-- Matt Kozera



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> 
> It's Friday and nearly turps time, and I have been under DoS most of the
> day, so the brain is pretty addled.
> 
> If I have a list of IPs with many duplicates, what is the best way to
> extract a list of unique IPs?
> 
> --
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Re: [SLUG] slink... debian

[Michael Fox]

Yeah I know it is the package files... you'd think the day they made potato
stable the package files for slink should have been ready.

I will wait.

-Original Message-
From: Anand Kumria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Michael Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, 18 August 2000 4:06
Subject: Re: [SLUG] slink... debian


>On Thu, Aug 17, 2000 at 07:55:28PM +1000, Michael Fox wrote:
>>
>> This is the error you get..
>>
>> Failed to fetch
>>
http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/debian/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/mail/mailx_
>> 8.1.1-10.deb
>>   404 Not Found
>>
>> See what I mean, even though I have set slink explictly in sources.list
>>
>> after updating and trying to install something, the package.gz it
downloads
>> and puts on local disk, has stable/main/ crap hard coded in it..
>
>Jason Gunthorpe (apt author) says "No, it is a flaw in the package files..
>I hope to fix it tonight". It takes approximately 36 hours for changes to
>propagate throughout the Debian mirror system.
>
>So if you try that sometime Saturday it should "just work". If not let
>someone know.
>
>Cheers,
>Anand
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[SLUG] Unique sorting

[Howard Lowndes]

It's Friday and nearly turps time, and I have been under DoS most of the
day, so the brain is pretty addled.

If I have a list of IPs with many duplicates, what is the best way to
extract a list of unique IPs?

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Re: [SLUG] interesting rumour, IE on linux

[Michael Lake]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, Arunava Sen wrote:
> > Everyone at work thinks im just paranoid, but i have this theory. MS
> > will close-source it and purposely put bugs into them. the rock-solid
> > 'stable' image of linux will be shattered. this means nothing for
> > existing users who know what the problem is (microshit virii apps) but
> > it will discourage new users from switching to linux.
> 
> H.  What's the bet root access will be required to install it.
> Can anyone spell 'trojan' ?

password: xyzzy

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