Re: [SLUG] DSL / Linux Friendly ISPs?
quote who="David Guest" And you can still get all the benefits of a fixed IP by adding a dynamic DNS service to the cheaper dynamic IP address. Perhaps. Saying you can get "all" the benefits is a bit of a white lie though. Even given what you can achieve, I certainly wouldn't entrust anything important to a dynamic DNS service. - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- "Can we have a special TELSABUG category, and everything gets dropped to fix them first?" - Telsa Gwynne -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.
Look, I've seen this before. If you want to be employable, than you need to have the skills. Not knowing basics documentation stuff like Word is surefire way to get passed up. Anyhow theres my advice. ROFL -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.
This one time, at band camp, Paul Cameron said: As well, I've had nothing but trouble with PDF's using acroread on Linux as well as ghostview (which often pukes up PDF's) Well maybe u shouldn't use the linux version as its crap! Use windows it was written for it! honestly i dont understand if u want documentation that is not man crap than use .doc!!! "Hey there linux f00lz! you sux0r!" You're like a bull in a china shop. I am honestly sick of the linux lamers at work, they want to use their own crazt abiword or man crap. It cant generate proper .doc files, so where is the point? I tried to make for them for application documentate software, but i can't appease those freakes. Hello? Is this a tr0ll? Who wants Word .docs anyway, when there are much better alternatives? It jus' ain't practical compared with ASCII and HTML. Seem my previous stuff it you see Word exports html files!! Its damm easy u just select if from the menu. Ever run an HTML validator on your supposed 'HTML' output? Look, I've seen this before. If you want to be employable, than you need to have the skills. Not knowing basics documentation stuff like Word is surefire way to get passed up. Anyhow theres my advice. Using Word for documenting is hardly a 'skill', and any professional documentor will be using tools like DocBook, or TeX, and generating their documentation in something PORTABLE and USEFUL, unlike the steaming crap that Word produces: i.e. *valid* HTML, PS, PDF, and many others. -- jamesw Balial so you have a dodgey OS connected to a proxy with a dodgey network card connecting to a dodgey ISP and chatting on dodgey IRC servers - all you need now is some alcohol night swimming you have a winning combination! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.
Oooh! A SLUG troll. It's been so long, so perhaps I'll bite. quote who="Paul Cameron" Well maybe u shouldn't use the linux version as its crap! Use windows it was written for it! Acrobat Reader for Windows was definitely written for Windows. Acrobat Reader for Unix wasn't. honestly i dont understand if u want documentation that is not man crap than use .doc!!! Perhaps recommending a true open standard such as Docbook, or even another proprietary (yet more appropriate to the task) format such as FrameMaker would be more sensible. Still groff and it's ilk have been used for years, and man pages are a standard in their own right. Word documents are a suboptimal solution in this case. I am honestly sick of the linux lamers at work, they want to use their own crazt abiword or man crap. It cant generate proper .doc files, so where is the point? I tried to make for them for application documentate software, but i can't appease those freakes. Ask them to use Docbook. You'll be able to output RTF, HTML, text, PostScript and PDF from an easily editable, standardised documentation format. Seem my previous stuff it you see Word exports html files!! Its damm easy u just select if from the menu. Reality: A friend recently asked if I'd read a chapter of his book (being published soon, lots of Free Software plugs in it too), and given that his publisher only accepted MS Word documents, he asked if I would prefer it in HTML or DOC format. Of course, I asked for the HTML. He saved it, and sent it to me. The document was *enormous*, Netscape had a hernia rendering the stupid thing, and upon further inspection, there were over 2000 lines of CSS at the beginning. "Its damm easy u just select if from the menu." You're hooked. If it's 15 years old and designed for really old computers then maybe upgrade. It surely is better. Idiot. Sure. Look, I've seen this before. If you want to be employable, than you need to have the skills. The skills to enslave documentation in a proprietary format, without thought for the future? Not knowing basics documentation stuff like Word is surefire way to get passed up. You'll find a lot of people on this list who put their principles before convenience. Many of them will also make the choice *not* to work with proprietary software... Getting passed up for lack of Word skills is not much of a concern at all. Anyhow theres my advice. And such worthwhile advice it was. - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- Ye shall be cursed to fall in love so easily, and yet be so cold of heart as never to express it. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.
On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 12:47:13AM +1100, James Wilkinson uttered: This one time, at band camp, Paul Cameron said: Using Word for documenting is hardly a 'skill', and any professional documentor will be using tools like DocBook, or TeX, and generating their documentation in something PORTABLE and USEFUL, unlike the steaming crap that Word produces: i.e. *valid* HTML, PS, PDF, and many others. Wooo! Preach it, brother! Indeed, the ^(*$)(#_ KRAP that Word calls HTML is laughable. I _much_ prefer HTML, TeX or DocBook over a Word document anyway. -- jamesw Balial so you have a dodgey OS connected to a proxy with a dodgey network card connecting to a dodgey ISP and chatting on dodgey IRC servers - all you need now is some alcohol night swimming you have a winning combination! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- Steve "I'm a sysadmin because I couldn't beat a blind monkey in a coding contest." --Me -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.
enterfornone wrote:
...snip
Troll child :-(
I think some of you zealots need to get out of this dreamworld. Linux is
not yet a significant player on the desktop. Most people do need Work skills
to be employable.
Work != Word skills.
Besides, countering every anti-linux arguement with "troll" is very childish,
Aaah, another person with no understanding of statitics.
I think Godwin's law needs to be updated to include troll along with nazi.
It also needs to be widely know. Point completely lost due to obscurity.
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Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.
This is a Linux list, isn't it?. Linux _is_ a "significant player on my desktop" as I choose not to use windows or any of the proprietary crap it produces. And I'm annoyed at people trying to force me to use M$ bloat, something I thought I wouldn't see on this list. enterfornone wrote: I think some of you zealots need to get out of this dreamworld. Linux is not yet a significant player on the desktop. Most people do need Work skills to be employable. -- Regards Greg ... Things should be as simple as possible, but not simpler. -- Albert Einstein -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.
Well maybe u shouldn't use the linux version as its crap! Use windows it was written for it! honestly i dont understand if u want documentation that is not man crap than use .doc!!! I am honestly sick of the linux lamers at work, they want to use their own crazt abiword or man crap. It cant generate proper .doc files, so where is the point? I tried to make for them for application documentate software, but i can't appease those freakes. snip Look, I've seen this before. If you want to be employable, than you need to have the skills. Not knowing basics documentation stuff like Word is surefire way to get passed up. Anyhow theres my advice. Paul. I hope you were smart enough not to use your real name on this post. I wouldn't like to imagine what a potential employer will think when he does a web search on your name and finds this drivel in the multiple SLUG archives. Best of luck. ;) Cheers, Marty "Argue for your limitations and sure enough they're yours" - Richard Bach. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Old LIbraries
I dont suppose anyone has a nice quick way of detecting and removing old library versions? some fancy regex's or something? Dean -- BONG: http://www.bong.com.au EMAIL... [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 16867613 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.
On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 07:51:53AM +1000, Greg wrote: This is a Linux list, isn't it?. Linux _is_ a "significant player on my desktop" as I choose not to use windows or any of the proprietary crap it produces. And I'm annoyed at people trying to force me to use M$ bloat, something I thought I wouldn't see on this list. I use Linux as a gateway/router. I tend to use 2000pro as a desktop. Each has it's place, nothing wrong with choosing the best tool for the job. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] WIRED_ Using only seven lines of Perl code...Descrambling DVDs just goteven easier...
http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,42259,00.html?tw=wn20010307
Their "qrpff" program is a more compact cousin of the DeCSS utility that
eight movie studios successfully sued to remove from the website of 2600
Magazine. But unlike DeCSS, qrpff is abbreviated enough for critics of
the Motion Picture Association of America to include in, for example,
e-mail signature files -- and many already have.
"I think there's some value in demonstrating how simple these things
really are and how preposterous it isto try to restrict
their distribution," says Winstein, a 19-year-old MIT sophomore computer
science major.
Winstein says it's folly for MPAA and its allies to try to restrict a
526-character program that can be handed out on business cards. "I'm
showing the humor in trying to call these seven lines on a piece of
paper a device," he says.
The probable spread of qrpff on business cards, on T-shirts, and bumper
stickers closely resembles the distribution of encryption code in
signature files and T-shirts a few years ago. Such civil disobedience
flouted U.S. export laws in a kind of global keep-away game.
Programmer Adam Back managed to squeeze the RSA algorithm into just two
lines of Perl.
etc
The code takes advantage of a Perl command
called eval, which evaluates the program text when it is
executed:
In a brief filed last month, the Bush
administration sided with the movie industry against DeCSS, saying
that software is not speech-protected by
the First Amendment but can be regulated like parts to a
machine: "This function is entirely
nonexpressive, and thus does not warrant First Amendment
protection."
U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan ruled last
August that DeCSS was like a "common-source outbreak
epidemic" that violated the law's
prohibition against circumventing copyright-protection technology. The
DMCA prohibits anyone from publishing or
publicly distributing any hardware or software that "is
primarily designed or produced for the
purpose of circumventing protection afforded by a technological
measure that effectively protects a right
of a copyright owner."
2600, with the help of the Electronic
Frontier Foundation, has appealed its loss.
David Touretzky, a scientist in the
computer science department at Carnegie Mellon University who
testified for the defense, has included
qrpff in his gallery of DVD descramblers. The gallery is designed to
highlight the problem of dividing computer
code into expressive and functional categories: It includes
descramblers written in C, Scheme, English,
and even haiku.
Last month, the MPAA demanded that
Touretzky take down his page. He responded: "I would like to
know if it is the intent of the MPAA to
exert editorial control over scholarly publications by computer
science faculty that deal with DeCSS, and
if so, exactly which sort of publications will the MPAA permit
in the future, and which sort will result
in legal threats such as your letter of yesterday."
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Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.
Paul Cameron wrote: I am honestly sick of the linux lamers at work, they want to use their own crazt abiword or man crap. It cant generate proper .doc files, so where is the point? I tried to make for them for application documentate software, but i can't appease those freakes. A portion of the headers from Paul's message (with comments ;) Received: from co3025033-a.randw1.nsw.optushome.com.au ([203.164.170.105] helo=laptop) by slug.progsoc.uts.edu.au with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 14adpo-0005de-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 08 Mar 2001 00:18:32 +1100 -- SLUG's mail server runs Debian... Received: from pmc by laptop with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14adoE-00042v-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 08 Mar 2001 00:16:54 +1100 --- and so does Paul's one! Exim 3.22 is the version currently in Debian unstable. This guy must be one hardcore anti-linux crusader ;) From: Paul Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement. Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail-Followup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- He didn't even send in html! How thoughtful! Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.12i --- He even uses Mutt! Not as new as the Debian unstable version, but more recent than the one in Potato. In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 05:44:37PM +1100 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- I'm speechless! I am without speech! Matthew -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] QMAIL SUPPORT
david kwok wrote:
Could anyone point me to any commerical support for Qmail?
I have this error messages from my qmail server,
"cname_lookup_failed_temporarily". The mail sent to remote location is
therefore not working. The remote locations are aol and the like which use
non-compliant DNS packet size. I have also install a patch and rebuild
another one from scratch. The error messages appears as soon as I put the
new server into action.
Could anyone give me some assistance urgently?
Is this a reproducable error?
Is this at your end? (restart your DNS, check named files) or at the
remote end (wait until fixed)?
Has someone edited your named.domain file recently and not followed
proper layout, used wrong editor, misspelt a name?
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Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.
Each has it's place, nothing wrong with choosing the best tool for the job. exactly, which is why people bite when someone wades in with "MS rulez" and "you must use Word"... if the guy had mounted a well reasoned arguement i don't think people would have been shouting "troll" later marty -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.
On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 10:32:32AM +1100, Martin wrote: Each has it's place, nothing wrong with choosing the best tool for the job. exactly, which is why people bite when someone wades in with "MS rulez" and "you must use Word"... if the guy had mounted a well reasoned arguement i don't think people would have been shouting "troll" Even if there was a Linux WP that was better than Word, the fact still remains that if your job involves using a word processor, chances are you will need to know Word. -- enterfornone - insert clever comment here http://www.enterfornone.com/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] DOS end of lines w/- tomsrtbt
I have a need to convert text files created with tomsrtbt to DOS end of line format... using only tomsrtbt tools. There is no unix2dos, Perl or tr available. Unfortunately the usual sed s/$/x0d/ text.unix text.dos adds only literal x0d's to the line endings with tomsrtbt's sed. :( Also, the thing with the C-V C-^ RET produces a nice looking ^M's but tomsrtbt barf's on them. geoffrey append clue here please... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] why so many nmbd processes?
why does a ps on my machine show these 2 nmbd process that have been running since 1 March? root 1776 0.0 0.9 2240 1236 ?SMar01 0:01 nmbd -a root 1777 0.0 0.7 2160 944 ?SMar01 0:00 nmbd -a nmbd and smbd are run from inetd, not as standalone processes, here's the line from /etc/inetd.conf: netbios-ns dgram udp waitroot/usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/nmbd -a This machine is a samba server (obviously). Dave. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.
The operative word here being "choose", a few years ago I tried Linux, using it for a year or so as server/gateway/router environment. After having tried windoze at these tasks, Linux's superb performance prompted me to use it as my desktop environment, which has been improving at an astronomical rate, now I am at a stage where I no longer _need_ M$ for anything, and this makes me happy, I'm sure I'm not alone. True everything does have its place, but in my daily dealings with lusers they're typically a lazy/busy lot, troubled with driving the software and its bugs, with no regard for the OS at all. The only reason i can see for keeping M$ in these environments, is "that's what the staff are comfortable with". A situation that may soon change? enterfornone wrote: I use Linux as a gateway/router. I tend to use 2000pro as a desktop. Each has it's place, nothing wrong with choosing the best tool for the job. -- Regards Greg ... Real Time, adj.: Here and now, as opposed to fake time, which only occurs there and then. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.
On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 10:02:47AM +1100, enterfornone wrote: Even if there was a Linux WP that was better than Word, the fact still remains that if your job involves using a word processor, chances are you will need to know Word. But there's nothing to know. If your employer plops you down in front of a machine that has Word on it, and tells you to use it to write something, are you seriously suggesting that the members of this list are rendered incapable of doing that because they happen to prefer other writing methods, when given their choice? My employer's business runs entirely on Windows and MS-Office, but that doesn't stop me from operating almost entirely without them. Most of my writing (90%, easily) is plain ASCII text in either e-mail or source code. I have not received a word .doc file that I couldn't make sense of with StarOffice. (Hell, strings|par|less usually does a fine job!) Admittedly, StarOffice takes a long time to load, so I usually take the extra step of using StarOffice|print + ps2pdf to convert these into PDF files, to save me some time in the future. The guys in the office are gradually learning the bennefit of putting documentation into PDF format anyway. Word .doc files just aren't portable enough (even between different versions of Windows and Word) for their purposes. The PDF files will always look the same, and the recipient doesn't have to have exactly the same setup as them. -- Andrew -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.
but it's a microsoft product! Surely it's so easy to use you don't need any prior experience! ;)) On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, enterfornone wrote: Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 10:02:47 +1100 From: enterfornone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement. On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 10:32:32AM +1100, Martin wrote: Each has it's place, nothing wrong with choosing the best tool for the job. exactly, which is why people bite when someone wades in with "MS rulez" and "you must use Word"... if the guy had mounted a well reasoned arguement i don't think people would have been shouting "troll" Even if there was a Linux WP that was better than Word, the fact still remains that if your job involves using a word processor, chances are you will need to know Word. -- enterfornone - insert clever comment here http://www.enterfornone.com/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] DOS end of lines w/- tomsrtbt
|Unfortunately the usual sed s/$/x0d/ text.unix text.dos |adds only literal x0d's to the line endings with tomsrtbt's sed. :( | |Also, the thing with the C-V C-^ RET produces a nice looking ^M's but |tomsrtbt barf's on them. bash$ echo foo | sed 's/$/^M/' | od -bc 000 146 157 157 015 012 f o o \r \n 005 That ^M was typed in as C-V C-M. The trick is to quote the sub command in sed. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.
Even if there was a Linux WP that was better than Word, the fact still remains that if your job involves using a word processor, chances are you will need to know Word. but you just said yourself that what you should use is "the right tool for the job"... don't you think it is a little short sighted to turn around and then say "but you have to use MS because everybody does"... ?? to each his own, but i am quite happy not leaving my "tool" choices to popularity contests... later marty -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] why so many nmbd processes?
And smbstatus says?? Also look out for local WINS and DNS 'doze boxen that tend to hand around forever. If you have configured your SAMBA as an NT server (not workstation) you will also get pestered by 'doze boxen. netstat -a should show their real connections, if they exist. If they don't exist, try killing the offending procs and hope they don't hang around again! :) Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Dave Fitch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] why does a ps on my machine show these 2 nmbd process that have been running since 1 March? root 1776 0.0 0.9 2240 1236 ?SMar01 0:01 nmbd -a root 1777 0.0 0.7 2160 944 ?SMar01 0:00 nmbd -a nmbd and smbd are run from inetd, not as standalone processes -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] why so many nmbd processes?
I believe inetd only responds to connections not broadcasts. nmbd needs to deal with broadcasts so hence the need for the daemon to stay active? It sounds good but maybe someone with more experience might be able to confirm this? On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Dave Fitch wrote: Michael Covi [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is the netbios name resolution daemon. Part of samba. I think because you have 2 running you are running wins as part of your smb.conf configuration. yes that's all correct, but why are they running all the time, not started and stopped automatically like other stuff run from inetd? Dave. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Open Electronic Goverment update
Dear Sluggers, Having reviewed the correspondence exchanges over the last couple days I feel there is a need to get focus back This exercise is not about what is best but ensuring that individuals can use what they believe is best without imposition from Government THIS IS ABOUT USING OPEN STANDARDS for electronic exchange not just Linux though I do accept that open interchange will greatly help in linux acceptance. The campaign is building up as the tax office have dug in the focus is now on the Federal government and Media, yesterday Snr Alston was handed a formal letter. Other members of the Government and opposition parties are being targeted WE will make it a political issue This is an election year thank god. To date we have had 2 articles printed the latest being last Mondays Australian financial review. Other media outlets look like taking up the issue! For those who have not committed to the Petition/Register/Charter, I attach the latest copy Remember you can sign online at http://www.muli.com.au/ato/atoindex.html Drop into the SLUG stand at Linux business expo or Fax or post to ourselves to cordite. We assure you the data will be treated as confidential. Contacting your local federal member as well would be appreciated. The continuing saga of the "OPEN ELECTRONIC GOVERNMENT" with Business and the people. can be found in detail at http://www.muli.com.au/ato/atoindex.html _ Petition/Register/Charter Item A; We the undersigned strongly object to the Australian Tax Office's failure to deliver on their written undertakings to provide a Linux/UNIX ECI interface and call on the Government to instruct the Australian Tax Office to provide a open solution. Item B; We also request the Government to LEGISLATE that all departments implement: "OPEN ELECTRONIC GOVERNMENT" with Business and the people. That requires; 1. All Government data and/or software provided via electronic format is able to be used from common operating systems and utilities, i.e.: - Microsoft Windows/NT - Unix/Linux - Macintosh - Other ? 2. Interactive network solutions to use open standards such as XML, SSL, HTML, HTTP 3. Downloaded documentation to use open standards such as ASCII, HTML,XML, RTF, PDF ... Note: MS Word Wordperfect are not open standards 4. That software solutions will utilise open standards, WITHOUT proprietary extensions. 5. The interface specification is an open publication. 6. Where special readers, viewers or interactive solutions are required, - they will be made available to end-users at no cost premium between operating systems. 7. That the total data transferred via the utility should be made known to the end user. Company Name ACN Contact ( Email or real Name address) .. .. .. Ronald B. SKEOCH. Managing Director, Muli Management Pty Ltd. ABN 90 002 268 126 Project Risk, Financial Accounts Process Management software. Turn Key Linux Solutions, Development, Installation Training. Phone; 612 9487 3241, Fax; 612 9487 3583, Email; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 124 Fox Valley Road, Wahroonga, NSW, 2076, Sydney, AUSTRALIA. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] QMAIL SUPPORT
Hi .. This is documented in the qmail FAQ. Find out about it here http://cr.yp.to/qmail/faq/outgoing.html#cname-lookup -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 8 March 2001 9:56 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] QMAIL SUPPORT Could anyone point me to any commerical support for Qmail? I have this error messages from my qmail server, "cname_lookup_failed_temporarily". The mail sent to remote location is therefore not working. The remote locations are aol and the like which use non-compliant DNS packet size. I have also install a patch and rebuild another one from scratch. The error messages appears as soon as I put the new server into action. Could anyone give me some assistance urgently? My contact me on 02 99883805 or return mail to hotmail account, my email is not working, as you may be aware. Regards David Kwok __ ___ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] DOS end of lines w/- tomsrtbt
On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 11:21:37AM +1100, Ken Yap wrote: |Lovely on bash ; barfs on tomsrtbt ash? bash$ ash $ echo foo | sed 's/$/^M/' | od -bc 000 146 157 157 015 012 f o o \r \n 005 Maybe the tty driver you have in tomsbtrt doesn't have all the quoting features? You should be able to enter C-M into a shell script though. It'll help if I give you a little detail: /fl# echo foo | sed 's/$/^M/' sed: garbled command s/$/ /fl# geoffrey -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.
Indeed, most of the calls I get from users stems from their lack of training with 'doze. They use M$ all day on their desktops but do not understand how to do more than the average daily task. It is a complete fallacy to assume that users will find Linux or M$ more or less difficult to use than any other OS. Without training, the average user is fairly lost. The other fallacy is to assume that all M$ offerings have the same user interface. They don't. They may as well be running on different OSs. Back to the topic: We should not be pushing for a special Linux interface for BAS lodgement (that will only scare them); instead we should be pushing for a STANDARD html interface for BAS lodgement that does not rely on proprietary extensions that cause browsers to crash etc. Regards, Jill. -- Jill Rowling, Snr Des. Eng. Unix System Administrator Eng. Systems Dept, Aristocrat Technologies Australia 3rd Floor, 77 Dunning Ave Rosebery NSW 2018 Phone: (02) 9697-4484 Fax: (02) 9663-1412 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Greg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] True everything does have its place, but in my daily dealings with lusers they're typically a lazy/busy lot, troubled with driving the software and its bugs, with no regard for the OS at all. The only reason i can see for keeping M$ in these environments, is "that's what the staff are comfortable with". A situation that may soon change? -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE -- This email is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, interference with, distribution, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorised and prohibited. Confidentiality attached to this communication is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery to you. If you have received this message in error, please delete it and notify us by return e-mail or telephone Aristocrat Technologies Australia Pty Limited on +61 2 9413 6300. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Car Pool to Installfest?
hi guys anyone going to the installfest from the inner west (i am at north strathfield) and want to car pool? later marty -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.
I use Linux as a gateway/router. I tend to use 2000pro as a desktop. Each has it's place, nothing wrong with choosing the best tool for the job. Can't agree more... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] QMAIL SUPPORT
Tried patch; http://www.ckdhr.com/ckd/qmail-103.patch Cheers, Michael I have this error messages from my qmail server, "cname_lookup_failed_temporarily". The mail sent to remote location is therefore not working. The remote locations are aol and the like which use non-compliant DNS packet size. I have also install a patch and rebuild another one from scratch. The error messages appears as soon as I put the new server into action. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.
quote who="Matthew Dalton" In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 05:44:37PM +1100 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- I'm speechless! I am without speech! What, you think Paul == Rick? The 'from' line is continued on from the In-Reply-To, as Paul was only responding to Rick's post. Rick uses Netscape anyway. Softie. ;) - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://lwn.net/daily/ -- "Evil will always triumph over good, because good is dumb." - Dark Helmet, Spaceballs -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Xfree User Problems
I try to login as a normal user into xfree, by typing either startx or X and I get an error message of: Authentication failed - cannot start X server. Perhaps you do not have console ownership? Only root can start XFree. How do I assign Console Ownership/permissions to other users? Oh I run Red hat 7.0 with XFree86 version 4.0.1a Regards, Scott -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] What does Debian (Storm Linux) use for an XConfigurator/XF86Setup?
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Re: [SLUG] Xfree User Problems
Define a sudo for startx ? On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Scott Ragen wrote: Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 12:42:04 +1100 From: Scott Ragen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Xfree User Problems I try to login as a normal user into xfree, by typing either startx or X and I get an error message of: Authentication failed - cannot start X server. Perhaps you do not have console ownership? Only root can start XFree. How do I assign Console Ownership/permissions to other users? Oh I run Red hat 7.0 with XFree86 version 4.0.1a Regards, Scott -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Compatibility ad nauseum
On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Andrew Reilly wrote: On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 10:02:47AM +1100, enterfornone wrote: Even if there was a Linux WP that was better than Word, the fact still remains that if your job involves using a word processor, chances are you will need to know Word. snip Word .doc files just aren't portable enough (even between different versions of Windows and Word) for their purposes. The PDF files will always look the same, and the recipient doesn't have to have exactly the same setup as them. Hmm.. . the wonderfully portable Word: Macintosh word 6 files are not readable by Windows Word 6, although WinW6 is readable by Mac97. Word 4 is not readable by anything at all, I believe (UPGRADE! PAY!). I can't remember the other combinations that don't work, although I know there are some. StarOffice reads all the word formats, both Mac and Win. But then again, you don't have to pay for that, so it can't be any good. Personally, I use Nisus Writer for my wordprocessing, but I don't imagine anyone cares, and why should they? For the record, Nisus reads and writes Word formats that all versions of Word will read ;-) Nisus Writer is also cost free. I figure that if you can't work out a wordprocessor in ten minutes, what are you doing being PAID to sit in front of a computer anyway? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.
Andrew Reilly wrote: (Hell, strings|par|less usually does a fine job!) 'par' not found. -- Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services Pty Limited -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.
Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who="Matthew Dalton" In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 05:44:37PM +1100 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- I'm speechless! I am without speech! What, you think Paul == Rick? No, dude! I was speechless about the whole thing. I know what the 'In-Reply-To' line means. Rick uses Netscape anyway. Softie. ;) Well, I'm using WinNT ATM, so of course I'm using Netscape as well. It's the sanest choice in an insane world. Matthew -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] What does Debian (Storm Linux) use for an XConfigurator/XF86Setup?
Terry Collins wrote:
$_='while(read+STDIN,$_,2048){$a=29;$b=73;$c=142;$t=255;@t=map{$_%16or$t^=$c^=(
$m=(11,10,116,100,11,122,20,100)[$_/16%8])110;$t^=(72,@z=(64,72,$a^=12*($_%16
-2?0:$m17)),$b^=$_%64?12:0,@z)[$_%8]}(16..271);if((@a=unx"C*",$_)[20]48){$h
=5;$_=unxb24,join"",@b=map{xB8,unxb8,chr($_^$a[--$h+84])}@ARGV;s/...$/1$/;$
d=unxV,xb25,$_;$e=256|(ord$b[4])9|ord$b[3];$d=$d8^($f=$t($d12^$d4^
$d^$d/8))17,$e=$e8^($t($g=($q=$e147^$e)^$q*8^$q6))9,$_=$t[$_]^
(($h=8)+=$f+(~$g$t))for@a[128..$#a]}print+x"C*",@a}';s/x/pack+/g;eval
Ahem... yes.
Errr... where were we? Oh yes that's right - configuring X under Debian.
Debian Potato has 'anXious' which seems to be like a debconf-enhanced
xf86config or something. It's in the xviddetect package.
HTH
Matthew
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Re: [SLUG] Open Government- No linux interface for BAS lodgement.
quote who="Matthew Dalton" No, dude! I was speechless about the whole thing. I know what the 'In-Reply-To' line means. Sorry, had to ask. :) I've been tipped off by an anonymous source that Paul - today's list entertainment value - was in fact recovering from trying to get the docbook tools working under Red Hat. I understand completely. I had to do it once before, so I'm glad I can now be just another nipple-sucking, spoon-fed Debian user. Well, I'm using WinNT ATM, so of course I'm using Netscape as well. It's the sanest choice in an insane world. i hate all thess linux lamers who reackon that netscape is the be all and end all of Email!! you shoud all eb useing Oetlook expsrss! and internet explorrer! if you can't lern how to use these you are going to be paert odf the technoloyg underclass! l4m3rs! - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://lwn.net/daily/ -- 100% Pure Slashdot Wisdom: "Source code gives a whole new meaning to free software." -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] why so many nmbd processes?
On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 11:07:00AM +1100, Jill Rowling wrote: And smbstatus says?? Samba version 2.0.7 Service uid gid pid machine -- No locked files Share mode memory usage (bytes): 1048464(99%) free + 56(0%) used + 56(0%) overhead = 1048576(100%) total Also look out for local WINS and DNS 'doze boxen that tend to hand around forever. If you have configured your SAMBA as an NT server (not workstation) you will also get pestered by 'doze boxen. netstat -a should show their real connections, if they exist. If they don't exist, try killing the offending procs and hope they don't hang around again! :) ok... Dave. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] why so many nmbd processes?
As soon as theres any traffic on that port they will fire up and stay there straight away. It's nothing to worry about it's normal behaviour. On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Dave Fitch wrote: Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 15:41:39 +1100 From: Dave Fitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] why so many nmbd processes? On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 11:07:00AM +1100, Jill Rowling wrote: And smbstatus says?? Samba version 2.0.7 Service uid gid pid machine -- No locked files Share mode memory usage (bytes): 1048464(99%) free + 56(0%) used + 56(0%) overhead = 1048576(100%) total Also look out for local WINS and DNS 'doze boxen that tend to hand around forever. If you have configured your SAMBA as an NT server (not workstation) you will also get pestered by 'doze boxen. netstat -a should show their real connections, if they exist. If they don't exist, try killing the offending procs and hope they don't hang around again! :) ok... Dave. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Demand Dialing
Guys, how do get ppp to "Dail ON DEMAND"? i.e when someone activates their browser. cheers M -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Demand Dialing
Michael Sztachanski wrote:
Guys,
how do get ppp to "Dail ON DEMAND"?
i.e when someone activates their browser.
Well, a few months ago, you would use diald, which could respond to
demand or times.
I don't know what the latestst is.
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(($h=8)+=$f+(~$g$t))for@a[128..$#a]}print+x"C*",@a}';s/x/pack+/g;eval
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[SLUG] ISDN / DSL
On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Jeff Waugh wrote: ISDN Installation: $BigBread Hardware: $DoleOutTheDosh Not if you use onramp home highway. Similar cost to two POTS lines. Call costs: $PrettyPenny Unless you use data-over-voice for untimed local calls. Speed: Shite For what? 128k low-latency for home. Or 2Mb/s broadband. Speed: Crankenhausen (if the carrier can actually keep their network up) Bitte? It runs at "hospitals" speed? Is that good or bad? :) -- Mike Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] --==-- I had no shoes and I pitied myself. Then I met a man who had no feet, so I took his shoes.-- Dave Barry -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] seeking Xconfig file for Compaq Laptop
Hello there, Joined this group yesterday in the hope that someone can assist me in getting XFree86 going on my Laptop. From the little I have learnt over the past week since buying a copy of Redhat 7.0 from a news agent, I have gathered that I need a config file for XFree86 4.0.1-1 for my machine: -Compaq Pressario 1600-XL 140 -Video Card: Trident Cyberblade i1 AGP (51) -Screen: TFT LCD 800 x 600 Please don't advise me to go to the Linux for Laptops site, 'cause I already have. It ain't there. Hope you can help... Cheers, Hall Murray
[SLUG] Staroffice and 2.4.2 kernel
Hi all, I have an interresting problem where by, When I'me running my newly compiled 2.4.2 (no patch) kernel, I'm unable to open a specific word document with StarOffice 5.2. Only problem is that it hangs my machine pretty bad. on the 2.2.17 kernel I get en error in staroffice but my machine does not hang. - A Fatal error occurred - then Star Office closes down. I'm more that happy to provide a copy of the .doc file and of the .config file used for the 2.4.2 kernel compil. any feedback welcome. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Re: Demand Dialing
It's ok guys, used the standard ppp stuff with a little adjustment. Works great!!! regards M At 06:57 PM 08-03-01 +1100, John Morrissey wrote: Dial on Demand - easy Go to the link below, dowload the iso, burn cd, install and it works (based on RH ofcourse) Cheers John [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/e-smith/e-smith-4.1/iso Michael Sztachanski wrote: Guys, how do get ppp to "Dail ON DEMAND"? i.e when someone activates their browser. cheers M -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug -- John Morrissey Marketing Manager Powermedia Systems Pty Limited Providers of Quality Graphics Solutions to the Design, Advertising Video and Print Industries. Phone: (02) 9518 9111 Fax: 9518 9199 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
