Re: [SLUG] editing passwd: alters home dir location ? or
.kde .gtkrc are not needed. I would leave the bash files they may be of use if the users want to mod files on the system. ** Reply to note from Andrew McNaughton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon, 28 Jul 2003 15:38:53 +1200 (NZST) Be a little careful. If the user's home directory is accessible from the web then various dot files in their home directory might become accessible. If you don't trust the users then you might not even want to give them access to what the system thinks of as their home directories. Andrew, Kevin, thanks, yes, I've decided it wasn't such a good idea.. talking about various dor files: if these users are just 'file upload' users, can I just delete all the dot files... or, just leave them ? /.. ³UP--DIR³³ /.kde³ 4096³Jul 16 10:22³ /www ³ 8192³Jul 28 14:06³ .bash_logout³ 24³Jul 16 10:22³ .bash_profile ³191³Jul 16 10:22³ .bashrc ³124³Jul 16 10:22³ .gtkrc ³118³Jul 16 10:22³ ³ ³³ Voytek Eymont -- Regards, Kevin Saenz Spinaweb Your one stop shop for I.T solutions. Ph: 02 4620 5130 Fax: 02 4625 9243 Mobile: 0418455661 Web: http://www.spinaweb.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Sending mail
How about `sendmail -bd -q1h -X/var/log/thoughtpolice` ? It records incoming as well as outgoing mail though. To get only outgoing you'd presumably doctor your SMTP mailer definition. Andrew On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, Kevin Saenz wrote: You can try using procmail Can Any one suggest me how I can send a copy of every outgoing mail to a specific user account ? I am using Redhat 7.1 and sendmail and ipop3 installed. === Thank You Md. Ashraful Alam __ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- No added Sugar. Not tested on animals. May contain traces of Nuts. If irritation occurs, discontinue use. --- Andrew McNaughton In Sydney Working on a Product Recommender System [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: +61 422 753 792 http://staff.scoop.co.nz/andrew/cv.doc -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: BIND zone file Re: [SLUG] vhost HTTPD.CONF: hostname-less webserver, can I have a
On 28/07/2003 3:09 PM +, Voytek Eymont wrote: [..snip..] what do I need here: zone file has: @ IN SOA wombat.sbt.net.au. admin.sbt.net.au. ( 0010 ; Serial number for this data (yymmdd##) ..stuff removed... ; IN NS wombat.sbt.net.au. IN NS echidna.sbt.net.au. ; IN MX 10 echidna.sbt.net.au. ; localhost IN A 127.0.0.1 www IN CNAME web.sbt.net.au. ; I tried ww2 IN CNAME koala.sbt.net.au. domainname.org.au. IN CNAME koala.sbt.net.au. www2.domainname.org.au worked OK domainname.org.au did NOT work what have I forgot ? Change the last line to: @IN CNAME koala.sbt.net.au. Since the zone you are editing is domainname.org.au, you use @ to reference the domain name on it's own. Regards, Gonzalo. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Finding all config files... (Debian question))
At Mon, 28 Jul 2003 10:36:38 +1000, Peter Chubb wrote:
I'm trying to set up a backup strategy. What I want to find
is all the configuration files for the various installed packages.
Some are obvious (/etc/apache/http.d.conf, /etc/passwd) Others are not
(/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/MoinMoin/config.py).
Is there a way of extracting from the dpkg information a list of all
changed configuration files? Dpkg must know this info...
Those files tagged as conffiles are listed in
/var/lib/dpkg/info/*.conffiles, but there doesn't seem to be any way
to know if one has changed (without unpacking a .deb and diffing).
The debconf database is also a good thing to back up, its
/var/cache/debconf/{config,passwords}.dat (by default).
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Re: [SLUG] Disk Access Speed
On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 11:34, Lyle Chapman wrote: Sorry one more question to annoy everybody with, I have installed a new 80gb seagate drive and the problem is when I copy something to or from it I am getting a woeful 3 mb/sec transfer speed. I ran hdparm -Tt /dev/hda and the result was the cache access was reporting the right speed but disk access was 3.5meg/sec (pathetic) I ran hdparm again and turned all the go faster bits on, this increased it to 5.5 meg/sec. Although I did notice that I get a DMA error in hdparm when trying to turn DMA on. Any ideas anyone, thanks? I have just fixed this on my Mandrake 9.1 system (kernel 2.4.21). It ended up that I had to add my drive's model number (ST360015A) to the drive_whitelist in /usr/src/linux/drivers/ide/ide-dma.c and recompile the kernel (after checking that it wasn't in the drive_blacklist or bad_dma_drives list for good reason). All is well with DMA now. Hope it works for you. Cheers, John... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] anyone tried 2.6.0-test-beta?
Just wondering if anyone has started playing with 2.6.0 kernel? What's it like? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] updating kernel, rebbot after ?
** Reply to note from Mary [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon, 28 Jul 2003 09:41:58 +1000 On Sun, Jul 27, 2003, Voytek Eymont wrote: what do I now need to reload the (new) kernel...? reboor or what else ? Reboot. is there any 'special' way to reboot to specify new kernel...? I rebooted, but, RHN keeps telling me to 'update the kernel' RHN says i have: Kernel: 2.4.20-18.7 Registered: 2003-07-13 01:57:18 (GMT +10) Checked In: 2003-07-28 18:02:36 (GMT +10) Last Booted:2003-07-28 11:59:53 (GMT +10) machine says it has: uname -a Linux 2.4.20-18.7 #1 Thu May 29 08:32:50 EDT 2003 i686 unknown looking in the /boot I have [EMAIL PROTECTED] boot]# ls boot.b lost+found System.map-2.4.20-18.7 chain.b message vmlinux-2.4.18-5 config-2.4.18-5 module-info vmlinux-2.4.20-18.7 config-2.4.20-18.7 module-info-2.4.18-5 vmlinuz grubmodule-info-2.4.20-18.7 vmlinuz-2.4.18-5 initrd-2.4.18-5.img os2_d.b vmlinuz-2.4.20-18.7 initrd-2.4.20-18.7.img System.map kernel.hSystem.map-2.4.18-5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] boot]# anyhow, I've told RHN to update the kernel again Voytek Eymont -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] updating kernel, rebbot after ?
On Mon, Jul 28, 2003, Voytek Eymont wrote: ** Reply to note from Mary [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon, 28 Jul 2003 09:41:58 +1000 On Sun, Jul 27, 2003, Voytek Eymont wrote: what do I now need to reload the (new) kernel...? reboor or what else ? Reboot. is there any 'special' way to reboot to specify new kernel...? Your bootloader needs to be updated, usually. Normally, the act of installing the kernel RPM updates your bootloader automatically, so I assumed that this was the case. machine says it has: uname -a Linux 2.4.20-18.7 #1 Thu May 29 08:32:50 EDT 2003 i686 unknown looking in the /boot I have [EMAIL PROTECTED] boot]# ls boot.b lost+found System.map-2.4.20-18.7 chain.b message vmlinux-2.4.18-5 config-2.4.18-5 module-info vmlinux-2.4.20-18.7 config-2.4.20-18.7 module-info-2.4.18-5 vmlinuz grubmodule-info-2.4.20-18.7 vmlinuz-2.4.18-5 initrd-2.4.18-5.img os2_d.b vmlinuz-2.4.20-18.7 initrd-2.4.20-18.7.img System.map kernel.hSystem.map-2.4.18-5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] boot]# You are indeed, from what I can see, running the newest kernel installed on your machine. Which version of the kernel does RHN want you to upgrade to? -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] C - exec fn call env vars
Hi all, Got a bit of a C code using execle() to call a shell script with a specific environment. I've got no trouble seeing the environment vars in bash. Is there any way of setting an environment variable in the shell script so that it modifies the environment of the *parent* process? I fear not - but is there any way of returning something from a shell other than through an exit status? Thanks, Andy -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] updating kernel, rebbot after ?
depending on your boot loader you need to specify where the kernel is. in lilo this is /etc/lilo.conf then re-run /sbin/lilo in grub you can either define in /boot/grub/menu.lst or just pass the kernel at the grub boot prompt. brett On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 05:02, Voytek Eymont wrote: ** Reply to note from Mary [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon, 28 Jul 2003 09:41:58 +1000 On Sun, Jul 27, 2003, Voytek Eymont wrote: what do I now need to reload the (new) kernel...? reboor or what else ? Reboot. is there any 'special' way to reboot to specify new kernel...? I rebooted, but, RHN keeps telling me to 'update the kernel' RHN says i have: Kernel: 2.4.20-18.7 Registered: 2003-07-13 01:57:18 (GMT +10) Checked In: 2003-07-28 18:02:36 (GMT +10) Last Booted: 2003-07-28 11:59:53 (GMT +10) machine says it has: uname -a Linux 2.4.20-18.7 #1 Thu May 29 08:32:50 EDT 2003 i686 unknown looking in the /boot I have [EMAIL PROTECTED] boot]# ls boot.b lost+found System.map-2.4.20-18.7 chain.b message vmlinux-2.4.18-5 config-2.4.18-5 module-info vmlinux-2.4.20-18.7 config-2.4.20-18.7 module-info-2.4.18-5 vmlinuz grubmodule-info-2.4.20-18.7 vmlinuz-2.4.18-5 initrd-2.4.18-5.img os2_d.b vmlinuz-2.4.20-18.7 initrd-2.4.20-18.7.img System.map kernel.hSystem.map-2.4.18-5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] boot]# anyhow, I've told RHN to update the kernel again Voytek Eymont -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] anyone tried 2.6.0-test-beta?
At 6:50 pm, Monday, July 28 2003, Kevin Saenz mumbled: Just wondering if anyone has started playing with 2.6.0 kernel? What's it like? I have. It's ... different. It uses modprobe.conf, rather than modules.conf, PCMCIA requires tweaking, and X doesn't work. And I've panic'd it twice. Oh well. Cheers, -- Steve ElectricElf Anyone have a favorite low-overhead remote filesystem protocol? (NFS and Samba are, of course, options) DanielS ElectricElf: it's like asking what is the least painful method of castration involving a rusty fishing wire -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] UserName and Groups disasster
G'day, Just a few days ago, I was try to experiment with Samba+LDAP to store users and groups. As a start, I found out that webmin has a module that can auto-generate all the necessary things to set up LDAP as well as the SAMBA. So, I give it a try. The result? I've lost my ability to log in to my box and it seems all password and users name has been deleted/changed. Luckly, at that time I still had 1 comp connected to box via webmin. I've tried to change nsswitch.conf to read: passwd: files nis shadow: files nis group: files nis But it seems nothing... Does anybody have any recommendation what should I do put (at least) root password to the box so I can log in again? Best regards, phillip. __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] anyone tried 2.6.0-test-beta?
quote who=Kevin Saenz Just wondering if anyone has started playing with 2.6.0 kernel? What's it like? Check my X-Operating-System header. :-) Works well here (home desktop only), but there are some scheduling issues that make listening to ogg files and moving windows reasonably annoying. There have been some patches around to fix up those however, so I will probably try those and -test2 at some stage. Ready-to-wear ALSA support is nice, and there are some nice optimisations throughout (especially if you're on SMP). See Joseph Pranevich's traditional Wonderful World document for more details: http://www.kniggit.net/wwol26.html - Jeff -- Get Informed: SCO vs. IBMhttp://sco.iwethey.org/ It's not a disease, it's an occupation! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] imap mail box for me?
After ten years of the same uni email address, the machine on which my mail lives is about to be retired. Given that I am not a uni student any more I am in a bind. Im looking for some one to sell me just an imap mail box some where. Can some one recommend any one? Ben de Luca For a few days longer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] imap mail box for me?
Ben de Luca wrote: Im looking for some one to sell me just an imap mail box some where. Can some one recommend any one? host.sk, if you don't mind waiting a while... - Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] anyone tried 2.6.0-test-beta?
At Mon, 28 Jul 2003 19:44:13 +1000, Steven Kowalik wrote: At 6:50 pm, Monday, July 28 2003, Kevin Saenz mumbled: Just wondering if anyone has started playing with 2.6.0 kernel? What's it like? I have. It's ... different. It uses modprobe.conf, rather than modules.conf, PCMCIA requires tweaking, and X doesn't work. And I've panic'd it twice. Oh well. I was going to say I hadn't noticed any difference - but I just tried getting X to work and I can't find the right module to make /dev/psaux work :( ppp_deflate seems to be broken (I can't receive UDP packets?), but adding nodeflate to pppd/options works fine. otherwise I haven't noticed any problems (running it right now) :) -- - Gus -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] C - exec fn call env vars
Got a bit of a C code using execle() to call a shell script with a specific environment. I've got no trouble seeing the environment vars in bash. Is there any way of setting an environment variable in the shell script so that it modifies the environment of the *parent* process? no there isn't. in a shell script if you want to change the enviornment you need to do . script which actually redirects standard input of the shell to come from script and reads it in line at a time. A lot of shell commands like cd are called builtins because they operate in the current process and don't form subprocesses... because they affect the parent shell process. The classic Kernighan Pike book The Unix Programming Environment explains this at length; there are of course good free references. I fear not - but is there any way of returning something from a shell other than through an exit status? Parent and child can co-ordinate in various ways... the obviously easy one is for the child to write to a temp file and the parent to read the info from that file and then delete the file; but there are other ways to do it; this falls under the topic of Interprocess Communication. You can install signal handlers in the parent such that when a child terminates the parent goes and checks interesting things; you also want to look at the wait() system call. Hope this helps, Stuart. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] C - exec fn call env vars
At Mon, 28 Jul 2003 19:15:07 +1000, Andy Eager wrote: Is there any way of setting an environment variable in the shell script so that it modifies the environment of the *parent* process? nope. I fear not - but is there any way of returning something from a shell other than through an exit status? stdout (or some other file descriptor), some file somewhere. all the other types of IPC too, but they're a bit hard from a shell script (without a helper (non-shell) command). -- - Gus -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] updating kernel, rebbot after ?
You are indeed, from what I can see, running the newest kernel installed on your machine. Which version of the kernel does RHN want you to upgrade to? Mary, thanks RHN says I need this: RHSA-2003:238Updated 2.4 kernel fixes vulnerabilities Synopsis Updated 2.4 kernel fixes vulnerabilities Issued: 2003-07-21 Updated:2003-07-21 I've scheduled (again) for update, I'll see what happens after that, thanks again for your help this is what RHN says about this system: The following packages on this system are out-of-date and may be upgraded. Filter by Latest Package: 1 - 1 of 1 (0 selected) Select Latest Package Installed Package Related Errata kernel-2.4.20-19.7 kernel-2.4.20-18.7 kernel-2.4.18-5 RHSA-2003:238-14 Voytek Eymont -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] updating kernel, rebbot after ?
On Mon, Jul 28, 2003, Voytek Eymont wrote: Filter by Latest Package: 1 - 1 of 1 (0 selected) SelectLatest Package Installed Package Related Errata kernel-2.4.20-19.7 kernel-2.4.20-18.7 kernel-2.4.18-5 RHSA-2003:238-14 Well, kernel-2.4.20-19.7 seems to be newer than the one you have installed.. so possibly the next upgrade will work. -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] imap mail box for me?
-= After ten years of the same uni email address, the machine -= on which my mail lives is about to be retired. Given that I -= am not a uni student any more I am in a bind. -= -= Im looking for some one to sell me just an imap mail box -= some where. Can some one recommend any one? Ben, This may not be the perfect solution, but it's FREE (as in beer) - you may have to put up with an outage occasionally, But try www.myrealbox.com - it's a site run by Novell as a test-bed for their mailserver product, and as such they allow you to use it free of charge, provided you can cope with an outage occasionally when they upgrade software. Jon -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Sending mail
Every one is saying use procmail ...But I want the clear procedure . === Thank You Md. Ashraful Alam - Original Message - From: Kevin Saenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Md. Ashraful Alam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [SLUG] Sending mail You can try using procmail Can Any one suggest me how I can send a copy of every outgoing mail to a specific user account ? I am using Redhat 7.1 and sendmail and ipop3 installed. === Thank You Md. Ashraful Alam __ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] CD I/O errors
I've been sent a data CD from england.. probably windows... that I can't read. I'm managed to retrieve a directory of jpg's from it, but other files won't read at all i get I/O errors. Is this likely to be some Windows weirdness? if so what if anything can I do about it? I don't possess a windows box. thanks... David. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] CD I/O errors
David Probably The CD was not write perfectlly . === Thank You Md. Ashraful Alam - Original Message - From: David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 5:58 PM Subject: [SLUG] CD I/O errors I've been sent a data CD from england.. probably windows... that I can't read. I'm managed to retrieve a directory of jpg's from it, but other files won't read at all i get I/O errors. Is this likely to be some Windows weirdness? if so what if anything can I do about it? I don't possess a windows box. thanks... David. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Personalising samba mounts
Hi All, We have an e-smith server that has unused home directories for each user and a common shared directory. We currently access the common share using one users name and password, in /etc/fstab, even though the common share allows anonymous logins. I would like to edit the /etc/fstab file so that all users have access to the common share and so that their network home directories mount according to who is logged in at the time. Hope that's clear? Ta Mick -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Sending mail
This one time, at band camp, Md. Ashraful Alam wrote: Every one is saying use procmail ...But I want the clear procedure . Well, if you mean what everyone seems to think you mean, then it will require fiddling with sendmail delivery options, mail transports. I don't think a lot of people have done what you want to do, and mail transports aren't in the domain of most configurations. Your best bet is going to be google, perhaps faqs and howtos at sendmail.org, and your local sendmail documentation. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://spacepants.org/jaq.gpg -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Sending mail
quote who=Jamie Wilkinson This one time, at band camp, Md. Ashraful Alam wrote: Every one is saying use procmail ...But I want the clear procedure . Well, if you mean what everyone seems to think you mean, then it will require fiddling with sendmail delivery options, mail transports. I don't think a lot of people have done what you want to do, and mail transports aren't in the domain of most configurations. Your best bet is going to be google, perhaps faqs and howtos at sendmail.org, and your local sendmail documentation. For what it's worth, this is very simple on postfix, you just set always_bcc to a particular mailbox. I would be extraordinarily surprised if an option as direct as that weren't available in sendmail; I thought it was one of the compat options. - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ A 'lame' server is a server that is SUPPOSED to be authoritative, but, when asked, says: 'Me? I know nothing, I'm from Madrid!' - Ralf Hildebrandt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: Multi-page TIFF Viewer/Printer
Thanks to all who replied.
xnview was great but only for viewing (no print option!!!)
This live below worked a treat and the clues were provided by Angus,
Jeff and Anand:
convert {1}.tif {1}.ps ; gv {1}.ps
I also tried the above with pdf/xpdf but it broke and also took forever.
ps rocks! So does convert! Also gv! I'm getting carried away here again
aren't I. Ahem.
Now to turn the above into a script and add it as a mime type so that
evolution will add it to open with...
The mission here is to replace Outlook/windows viewer functionality and
thus consign it to the dustpit of time.
Stu
Angus Lees wrote:
At Sat, 26 Jul 2003 21:20:09 , Voytek Eymont wrote:
I'd say, for higher quality, there is no subsitute for TIFF, as far as bit
mapped images go.
tiff is a container format, so what format you really have inside a
.tiff is really what determines the image's characteristics.
in pretty much all cases you can strip off the tiff header and use the
contents in its native format (bmp, jpeg, g3, etc) - there is of
course no different in image quality.
even if you were converting between lossless image formats (pretty
much anything except jpeg), you shouldn't see any difference (they're
lossless after all).
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Re: [SLUG] updating kernel, rebbot after ?
** Reply to note from Jamie Wilkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon, 28 Jul 2003 22:53:32 +1000 So, when you up2date, are you actually installing the kernel or is it telling you that the package is being skipped because of the configuration? no. RHN it say it was 'succesfull'. Try up2date -f kernel from the commandline. Red Hat 9 uses grub by default, and the kernel packages just work when they're installed, you should be able to reboot and the new kernel will be listed first in the bootloader menu. Is there anything different about your configuration? not that I know when I 1st installed it, I did some updates, including kernel. as far I recall, I did them from command line, NOT from 'web browser request' anyhow, lets try up2date: it said: [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# up2date -f kernel Fetching package list for channel: redhat-linux-i386-7.3... Fetching Obsoletes list for channel: redhat-linux-i386-7.3... Testing package set / solving RPM inter-dependencies... kernel-2.4.20-19.7.i686.rpm ## Done. Preparing...### [100%] Installing... 1:kernel ### [100%] [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# I'll reboot shortly... Voytek Eymont SBT Information Systems Pty Ltd http://www.sbt.net.au/links/ phone +61-2 9310-1144 fax +61-2 9310-1118 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Static Routes 101
Title: Message Hi All A pretty Basic question but one that is stumping me. I have a commercial need to add three static routes to my IPCOP gateway machine. I have added default gateways by using #route add default gw [IP address] But how do I add the following Static routes? 172.31.0.0/16to 192.168.0.252 10.100.0.0/16 to 192.168.0.252 192.168.0.0/16 to 192.168.0.252 I believe it will be some form of the route add command but I'm not getting it with the ideas I have tried. Thanks for your patience and help Kev By the way The Gateway box (IPCOP) is on 192.168.0.250 and points to an ADSL VPN router on 192.168.0.252 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.501 / Virus Database: 299 - Release Date: 14/07/2003 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Static Routes 101
$author = Kevin Fitzgerald ; But how do I add the following Static routes? 172.31.0.0/16 to 192.168.0.252 10.100.0.0/16 to 192.168.0.252 192.168.0.0/16 to 192.168.0.252 if you don't have a route to 192.168.0.252 yet you need to set that first. route add -net 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev eth0 (change the network, netmask or interface as appropriate) then you can add the routes for the other networks. route add -net 172.31.0.0 netmask 255.255.0.0 gw 192.168.0.252 (repeat as appropriate for the other networks) you'll need to add these to your startup scripts to ensure that they are restored after a reboot. finally, you might have a problem routing 192.168.0.0/16 (that's if that is a real subnet your trying to route and not some foobar example for the mailing list query) given that you seem to already have at least some, if not all of 192.168.0.0/24 already routed. i'm not sure how the linux kernel treats multiple routes (routing protocols like BGP allow overlaps and use the more specific match). marty -- newsdee - ...and thanks for the sp correction. I improve my English through Slashdot :-) [1] Carbonite - Sweet Jesus! That's like improving your health through heroin. [2] [1] - http://books.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=66478cid=6116042 [2] - http://books.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=66478cid=6116149 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] binfmt_coff.o: where can I get/build it?
On Sun, 2003-07-27 at 22:25, Chris wrote: I recently update my kernel to 2.4.20-18 and now binfmt_coff.o is missing. It normally resides in /lib/modules/2.4.20*/kernel/fs/. Where I can I get this file? I am not that familiar with kernel modification, how do I make a copy of this file? Hi, You didn't tell us what you did. Do you have RedHat, and you used up2date, or are you running Debian, and did apt-get install kernel-image...etc., or...? Or do you mean you got the source for 2.4.20-18 and you recompiled the kernel and installed it? What does update my kernel mean? Thanks, Bret -- bwaldow at alum.mit.edu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Please help!
Hi, please help. Currently I am running RedHat 9 (Kernel is 2.4.20-8smp). I would like to upgrade my kernel to 2.4.20-19smp but when I used up2date GUI. It could not upgrade my kernel and later I found out that I have the errors below. How can I fix it? I ran the command rpm -qa | grep BAD error: rpmdbNextIterator: skipping h# 670 blob size(6980): BAD, 8 + 16 * il(17) + dl(3456) error: rpmdbNextIterator: skipping h# 671 blob size(256304): BAD, 8 + 16 * il(220856320) + dl(1404112172) error: rpmdbNextIterator: skipping h# 672 blob size(18644): BAD, 8 + 16 * il(5407606) + dl(10028020) Thanks Tony Cao -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: imap mail box for me?
On Tue, Jul 29, 2003, Anand Kumria wrote: Can't recommend any but a quick google 'email hosting site:au' turned up lots of possibilities. One name that was familiar to me was: URL: http://www.anchor.net.au/email-hosting.php which offers what I think you want for $69/pa That particular hosting plan seems to require that you have a domain name. This is probably a good idea in any case -- a domain name is not subject to the whim of others. If you don't want to go with your own domain (or possibly subdomain of one of your friend's registered domains, although then you are subject to their whims) you may as well go with an ISP supplied address. -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Marking packets at the user level
I have a situation where I have a workgroup server which has several user accounts on it; the users connect to the server from their desktops which act as basic X terminals. I want to be able to block some users from web browsing and accessing external mail servers, etc. whilst allowing others either or both of those facilities, all blocking being done at the site Internet interface point. I think what I am wanting to do is to mark selected packets with a user/group specific mark at the session level so that they can be identified by the iptables filters, but, of course, the packets actually get created further down the stack. Am I on a lost cause, or do I need to think laterally here. -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people http://www.lannetlinux.com -- Flatter government, not fatter government - Get rid of the Australian states. -- I before E except after C. We live in a weird society! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Re: binfmt_coff.o: where can I get/build it?
Oops, I forgot to mention that I have Redhat 8.0 and I updated the kernel using up2date. Chris -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: imap mail box for me?
Mary wrote: That particular hosting plan seems to require that you have a domain name. This is probably a good idea in any case -- a domain name is not subject to the whim of others. If you don't want to go with your own domain (or possibly subdomain of one of your friend's registered domains, although then you are subject to their whims) you may as well dropbear.id.au give free subdomains of dropbear.id.au similar for wattle.id.au (although I have not tried them). - Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] anyone tried 2.6.0-test-beta?
On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 08:19:56PM +1000, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Kevin Saenz Just wondering if anyone has started playing with 2.6.0 kernel? What's it like? Check my X-Operating-System header. :-) Works well here (home desktop only), I would check it, if it was there... -Andrew. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] C - exec fn call env vars
On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 07:15:07PM +1000, Andy Eager wrote: Hi all, Got a bit of a C code using execle() to call a shell script with a specific environment. I've got no trouble seeing the environment vars in bash. Is there any way of setting an environment variable in the shell script so that it modifies the environment of the *parent* process? I fear not - but is there any way of returning something from a shell other than through an exit status? My C is a bit rusty, so someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but if I recall correctly... You fear correctly -- a child can't modify its parent's environment. There are other ways to communicate between processes, though. One option that springs to mind is to open a pipe(2) in the parent before you fork and exec, then the child could write to the pipe, and the parent could read from it. If you create a pair of pipes, and in the child (before forking) use e.g. dup2(2) to copy their file descriptors to 0 and 1, then you've just created a stdin and a stdout for the child to use, then you should just be able to use 'echo' and so on in your shell script without any problems. :) You probably should create a third pipe for stderr, too -- although you could probably get away with re-using the stdout pipe. -Andrew. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Static Routes 101
But how do I add the following Static routes? 172.31.0.0/16 to 192.168.0.252 route add -net 172.31.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.??? gw 192.168.0.252 I've never used the 172.31.0.0/16 form, so I don't know if it works. '172.31.0.0/16', is another way of writing '172.31.0.0 netmask 255.255.0.0' (Note: '172.31.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0' is another way of writing '172.31.0.0/24'). and these mean we are describing several networks not several hosts. So, static routing of 172.31.0.0/16 to 192.168.0.252 should be, #route add -net 172.31.0.0/16 gw 192.168.0.252 or if you prefer #route add -net 172.31.0.0 netmask 255.255.0.0 gw 192.168.0.252 Oscar Plameras http://www.acay.com.au/~oscarp/disclaimer.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Marking packets at the user level
As the actual client application are going to be running on the same server, I think you will be hard pressed to get packet marking to work at that level. I have done packet marking, classify and policing, but only using hardware routers and marking either by host addresses or TCP/UDP port. (The marking was using the DiffServ/TOS field of the IP packet). I suspect this won't be flexible enough for you (as ports and IP addresses are going to be the same for both user groups) You will probably will find you are better of enforcing the policy at an OS level by creating locked down application (with specific configs) that only accessible or executable by certain administrative groups (ie create a powerusers group in /etc/groups and make say mozilla only e(x)ecutable by members of that group. Add that group to each user you want to be able use that app). (You also have to also prevent non-priveleged users from installing and running their own work-alike programs, but I guess in a normal managed environment this shouldn't be an issue) (There are other techniques like forcing user traffic to go through some sort of VPN or tunnel with different characteristics, but again the issue is to tie these to a particular user of a central server) Martin Visser ,CISSP Network and Security Consultant Technology Infrastructure - Consulting Integration HP Services 3 Richardson Place North Ryde, Sydney NSW 2113, Australia Phone *: +61-2-9022-1670Mobile *: +61-411-254-513 Fax 7: +61-2-9022-1800 E-mail * : martin.visserAThp.com -Original Message- From: Howard Lowndes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 29 July 2003 9:36 AM To: Mail List - SLUG; Mail List - MURLUG Subject: [SLUG] Marking packets at the user level I have a situation where I have a workgroup server which has several user accounts on it; the users connect to the server from their desktops which act as basic X terminals. I want to be able to block some users from web browsing and accessing external mail servers, etc. whilst allowing others either or both of those facilities, all blocking being done at the site Internet interface point. I think what I am wanting to do is to mark selected packets with a user/group specific mark at the session level so that they can be identified by the iptables filters, but, of course, the packets actually get created further down the stack. Am I on a lost cause, or do I need to think laterally here. -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people http://www.lannetlinux.com -- Flatter government, not fatter government - Get rid of the Australian states. -- I before E except after C. We live in a weird society! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: imap mail box for me?
I just looks like pop mail to me, I need IMAP or laptop. And i think IMAP is cheaper. On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 01:54, Anand Kumria wrote: On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 20:49:46 +1000, Ben de Luca wrote: After ten years of the same uni email address, the machine on which my mail lives is about to be retired. Given that I am not a uni student any more I am in a bind. Im looking for some one to sell me just an imap mail box some where. Can some one recommend any one? Can't recommend any but a quick google 'email hosting site:au' turned up lots of possibilities. One name that was familiar to me was: URL: http://www.anchor.net.au/email-hosting.php which offers what I think you want for $69/pa Anand, not associated with Anchor in any way. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] anyone tried 2.6.0-test-beta?
quote who=Andrew Bennetts Check my X-Operating-System header. :-) Works well here (home desktop only), I would check it, if it was there... Turns out I don't send those headers to SLUG. :-) - Jeff -- Get Informed: SCO vs. IBMhttp://sco.iwethey.org/ Self-assertive pants are filled with confidence. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: imap mail box for me?
The problem is with standard ISP's you only get POP mail and you have to buy internet access off them. I change ISP's enough that I dont want to do that. On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 08:59, Mary wrote: On Tue, Jul 29, 2003, Anand Kumria wrote: Can't recommend any but a quick google 'email hosting site:au' turned up lots of possibilities. One name that was familiar to me was: URL: http://www.anchor.net.au/email-hosting.php which offers what I think you want for $69/pa That particular hosting plan seems to require that you have a domain name. This is probably a good idea in any case -- a domain name is not subject to the whim of others. If you don't want to go with your own domain (or possibly subdomain of one of your friend's registered domains, although then you are subject to their whims) you may as well go with an ISP supplied address. -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] anyone tried 2.6.0-test-beta?
Maybe I'm dumb but I never saw any mention of reiserfs in 2.6.0 did they kill it from the kernel? I was only just reading about how fast reiserfs4 is going to be. quote who=Kevin Saenz Just wondering if anyone has started playing with 2.6.0 kernel? What's it like? Check my X-Operating-System header. :-) Works well here (home desktop only), but there are some scheduling issues that make listening to ogg files and moving windows reasonably annoying. There have been some patches around to fix up those however, so I will probably try those and -test2 at some stage. Ready-to-wear ALSA support is nice, and there are some nice optimisations throughout (especially if you're on SMP). See Joseph Pranevich's traditional Wonderful World document for more details: http://www.kniggit.net/wwol26.html - Jeff -- Regards, Kevin Saenz Spinaweb Your one stop shop for I.T solutions. Ph: 02 4620 5130 Fax: 02 4625 9243 Mobile: 0418455661 Web: http://www.spinaweb.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Static Routes 101
you might have a file in /etc/sysconfig/ or /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts called static routes all you need to do is add net 172.31.0.0 mask 255.255.0.0 gw 192.168.0.252 (Hmmm just wondering if your systems not going to freak.) Hi All A pretty Basic question but one that is stumping me. I have a commercial need to add three static routes to my IPCOP gateway machine. I have added default gateways by using #route add default gw [IP address] But how do I add the following Static routes? 172.31.0.0/16 to 192.168.0.252 10.100.0.0/16 to 192.168.0.252 192.168.0.0/16 to 192.168.0.252 I believe it will be some form of the route add command but I'm not getting it with the ideas I have tried. Thanks for your patience and help Kev By the way The Gateway box (IPCOP) is on 192.168.0.250 and points to an ADSL VPN router on 192.168.0.252 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.501 / Virus Database: 299 - Release Date: 14/07/2003 __ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- Regards, Kevin Saenz Spinaweb Your one stop shop for I.T solutions. Ph: 02 4620 5130 Fax: 02 4625 9243 Mobile: 0418455661 Web: http://www.spinaweb.com.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: imap mail box for me?
On Tue, Jul 29, 2003, DE LUCA Ben wrote: The problem is with standard ISP's you only get POP mail and you have to buy internet access off them. I change ISP's enough that I dont want to do that. Fair enough, I'd recommend you go for your own domain/subdomain then (Chris's idea about the dropbear/wattle subdomains is worth looking at, you can also buy .id.au domains directly now) and the kind of deal Anand pointed to -- although if you have friends with their own servers, hosting an IMAP box for your domain shouldn't be a hassle, and since you control the domain, you can move it when the box is retired. -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] OT - Converting EPS to text
Dear list, I need to convert an eps file to text under windows. It is easy under Linux /unix but I do not understand how to do it un M$ Richard Hayes Nada Marketing - Australia UK 2/713 Pacific Hwy Gordon Australia 2072 Ph +(61-2) 9418 4545 Fax +(61-2) 9418 4348 Mob +(61) 0414 618 425 www.nada.com.au --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.501 / Virus Database: 299 - Release Date: 7/14/2003 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] anyone tried 2.6.0-test-beta?
quote who=Kevin Saenz Maybe I'm dumb but I never saw any mention of reiserfs in 2.6.0 did they kill it from the kernel? I was only just reading about how fast reiserfs4 is going to be. Reiser3 is still in 2.6. Hans is trying to get Reiser4 in. Depending on how much of an effect Andrew Morton (HOORAY FOR THE HOME TEAM) has on the release process, I wouldn't be surprised if it's stalled until after they stabilise (post 2.6.0 final). But you're better off choosing ext3, jfs or xfs over reiserfs. :-) - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ Anyone getting 1 Gigabit/sec for $20 is tele-commuting from the year 2217... - Paul Haddon -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Quiet keyboards
Not quite Linux I know, but SWMBO is complaining about the noise I am making while typing. I do have a noisy keyboard, and I type fast, which makes for a lot of fast loud clicks, which gets her heart racing. So I am looking for a very quiet keyboard. Must be compatible with Linux (cannot imagine any problems with that though). Anyone have any suggestions? Regards, Andrew -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Filesystems
On Tue, Jul 29, 2003, Jeff Waugh wrote: But you're better off choosing ext3, jfs or xfs over reiserfs. :-) C'mon, back your assertions, it makes world domination easier you know! -Mary ... still genuinely interested in the filesystem debate, in which people make surprisingly few good arguments. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Quiet keyboards
On 29/07/2003 12:49 PM +1000, Andrew Monkhouse wrote: Not quite Linux I know, but SWMBO is complaining about the noise I am making while typing. I do have a noisy keyboard, and I type fast, which makes for a lot of fast loud clicks, which gets her heart racing. So I am looking for a very quiet keyboard. Must be compatible with Linux (cannot imagine any problems with that though). Anyone have any suggestions? Instead of getting a new quiet keyboard, how about a new quiet SWMBO?? :-) Only joking... :) I'm using an A4Tech el-cheapo Wireless mouse/keyboard and it's not too bad in terms of noise. I doubt it'll still be in one piece in 6 months time. Regards, Gonzalo -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Quiet keyboards
I've got a logitech cordless which is relatively quiet and the cordless is good if you have a desk full of crap like me. Brett Andrew Monkhouse wrote: Not quite Linux I know, but SWMBO is complaining about the noise I am making while typing. I do have a noisy keyboard, and I type fast, which makes for a lot of fast loud clicks, which gets her heart racing. So I am looking for a very quiet keyboard. Must be compatible with Linux (cannot imagine any problems with that though). Anyone have any suggestions? Regards, Andrew -- Brett Fenton General Manager NetRegistry Pty Ltd ___ http://www.netregistry.com.au/ Tel: +61 2 96996099 | Fax: +61 2 96996088 PO Box 270 Broadway | NSW 2007, Australia Your Total Internet Business Services Provider Trusted by 10,000s of Oz Businesses Since 1997 This email is from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. The contents of this message are commercial and in confidence to the intended addresseee. The message may contain copyrighted and/or legally priviledged information. No person or entity other than the intended recipient may read, print or store this message, including any and all attached files. The intended recipient may not forward this message to any third party without express written permission from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Disk Access Speed
On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 13:17, Lyle Chapman wrote:
So I just add this to the drive_whitelist?
{ Seagate, ALL },
The model value gained with `hdparm -i` is what you use where you have
Seagate as below...
# hdparm -i /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
Model=ST360015A, FwRev=3.33, SerialNo=3KC1W26H
-
Yes, you do have the format correct.
Cheers,
John...
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Re: [SLUG] OT - Converting EPS to text
Richard Hayes wrote: I need to convert an eps file to text under windows. It is easy under Linux /unix but I do not understand how to do it un M$ Install Ghostscript for Windows. That comes with a small utility called epstopdf - yep the same one as on Linux. Run epstopdf myfile.eps and you will have myfile.pdf Open myfile.pdf in Acrobat and use the text selection tool to copy the text and paste into notepad. Bingo Mike UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F DISCLAIMER This email message and any accompanying attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and with authority, states them to be the views the University of Technology Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and defects. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Filesystems
-Mary ... still genuinely interested in the filesystem debate, in which people make surprisingly few good arguments. Ok, I'll throw my diaper into the ring... PartitionMagic works with ext3, I'm slowly shrinking my Window$ partitions, thus... Also, something I know quite a bit less about, but would like to educate myself on, I believe mounting ext3 as ext2 allows running noflush. Any wiser heads care to comment? I have a Thinkpad that works great as a desktop, but I will be on the road sometime later this year... Cheers, Bret -- bwaldow at alum.mit.edu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] anyone tried 2.6.0-test-beta?
At Mon, 28 Jul 2003 23:05:35 +1000, Andrew Bennetts wrote: On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 09:03:05PM +, Angus Lees wrote: I was going to say I hadn't noticed any difference - but I just tried getting X to work and I can't find the right module to make /dev/psaux work :( I'm guessing that maybe the new HID stuff puts the mouse device at /dev/input/mouse0 regradless of physical source/protocol? i tried loading psmouse, which seems to detect a synaptics touchpad on my laptop (i presume this is correct). this seems to be enough for X to open /dev/input/mice successfully - although scratching the pad doesn't make the pointer move at all. loading mousedev claims to have loaded a PS/2 mouse device common for all mice, but this doesn't seem to be sufficient for X to load /dev/psaux (no such device). The Debian ALSA (user-space) packages don't yet cope with modprobe.conf transparently either (/me pokes stevenk) -- - Gus -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Filesystems
quote who=Mary On Tue, Jul 29, 2003, Jeff Waugh wrote: But you're better off choosing ext3, jfs or xfs over reiserfs. :-) C'mon, back your assertions, it makes world domination easier you know! :-) Lots of rehashing here, but for the benefit of the list: Okay, so, reiserfs has no recovery tools. None. If something goes wrong, whammo, you're potentially toast, eggs and bacon. It doesn't use inodes internally, so if you're running an NFS server on top of it, there's a translation layer in between. Slow, and not worth the indirection. It doesn't scale particularly well with SMP. It's a metadata-only journalling filesystem, so you're not protecting the integrity of the data itself, just the description of the data. It has had a number of extents-related issues in the past, writing over files and data that it should not have. Personally, I would not use reiserfs in a production environment, though I do use it for /tmp, for cvs checkouts and for big build trees. XFS is a long-standing filesystem that has been used on OS/2 and IRIX. It is especially good for high throughput applications, such as media work (which is not surprising given SGI's market). Metadata only journalling, scales incredibly well with multiple CPUs (even under 2.4) and includes POSIX ACLs (even under 2.4), which are kind of cool if you're using recent versions of SAMBA and serving up to Windows PCs. XFS also supports a realtime partition type, which is designed to guarantee very high throughput rates for the most demanding applications (though it will be a while before this is fully supported in Linux). On the other hand, ext3 is a relatively slow filesystem which is on-disk compatible with ext2, with optional full data journalling (which in some cases actually makes it faster; mail queues are a good example). You can upgrade to ext3 from ext2 without any hassles. There are lots of improvements to ext2/3 all the time, such as Daniel Phillips' htree patch which improves directory indexing performance. Because basically everyone uses these filesystems, you can rely on them as the most heavily tested and most likely to be improved filesystems available for Linux. - Jeff -- Get Informed: SCO vs. IBMhttp://sco.iwethey.org/ I tried to make money ass signing, but the bottom fell out of the market. - Liam Quin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Filesystems
http://www.vmars.tuwien.ac.at/courses/akti12/journal/02ws/article_02ws_Menedetter.pdf I read this a while back it's about as clear as it's going to get, though has dated very slightly. Brett Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Mary On Tue, Jul 29, 2003, Jeff Waugh wrote: But you're better off choosing ext3, jfs or xfs over reiserfs. :-) C'mon, back your assertions, it makes world domination easier you know! :-) Lots of rehashing here, but for the benefit of the list: Okay, so, reiserfs has no recovery tools. None. If something goes wrong, whammo, you're potentially toast, eggs and bacon. It doesn't use inodes internally, so if you're running an NFS server on top of it, there's a translation layer in between. Slow, and not worth the indirection. It doesn't scale particularly well with SMP. It's a metadata-only journalling filesystem, so you're not protecting the integrity of the data itself, just the description of the data. It has had a number of extents-related issues in the past, writing over files and data that it should not have. Personally, I would not use reiserfs in a production environment, though I do use it for /tmp, for cvs checkouts and for big build trees. XFS is a long-standing filesystem that has been used on OS/2 and IRIX. It is especially good for high throughput applications, such as media work (which is not surprising given SGI's market). Metadata only journalling, scales incredibly well with multiple CPUs (even under 2.4) and includes POSIX ACLs (even under 2.4), which are kind of cool if you're using recent versions of SAMBA and serving up to Windows PCs. XFS also supports a realtime partition type, which is designed to guarantee very high throughput rates for the most demanding applications (though it will be a while before this is fully supported in Linux). On the other hand, ext3 is a relatively slow filesystem which is on-disk compatible with ext2, with optional full data journalling (which in some cases actually makes it faster; mail queues are a good example). You can upgrade to ext3 from ext2 without any hassles. There are lots of improvements to ext2/3 all the time, such as Daniel Phillips' htree patch which improves directory indexing performance. Because basically everyone uses these filesystems, you can rely on them as the most heavily tested and most likely to be improved filesystems available for Linux. - Jeff -- Brett Fenton General Manager NetRegistry Pty Ltd ___ http://www.netregistry.com.au/ Tel: +61 2 96996099 | Fax: +61 2 96996088 PO Box 270 Broadway | NSW 2007, Australia Your Total Internet Business Services Provider Trusted by 10,000s of Oz Businesses Since 1997 This email is from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. The contents of this message are commercial and in confidence to the intended addresseee. The message may contain copyrighted and/or legally priviledged information. No person or entity other than the intended recipient may read, print or store this message, including any and all attached files. The intended recipient may not forward this message to any third party without express written permission from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Open Source Software Seminars - Canberra/Melbourne/Sydney
Unfortunately this seminar costs $440 but it may be of interest to some people. I've deleted the attachment but the link has all the details. Cheers David + NOIE conducted a seminar on OSS in Canberra in February earlier this year, as part of its role to facilitate the application of new technologies within Government administration, information and service provision. Three upcoming Open Source Software (OSS) events in Canberra, Melbourne and Sydney, in which NOIE is sponsoring/participating, should be of interest to you (note the seminar program will be repeated in each location). Details are in the attached flyer or via the link below. For further information, please contact David Mackey on mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or phone 02 6271 1817. Please note, Seminar Registration is via the Gartner website - the address is as follows: https://asiapac.gartner.com/register/ossnoie.cfm or you can fill out the attached registration form and fax it to Gartner on 0294594601. Cheers OSS Seminar.doc Registration form.pdf David Mackey Project Officer IMS and Governance National Office for the Information Economy Phone: 02 6271 1817 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Filesystems
On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 14:16, Jeff Waugh wrote: XFS is a long-standing filesystem that has been used on OS/2 and IRIX. It is especially good for high throughput applications, such as media work (which is not surprising given SGI's market). Metadata only journalling, scales incredibly well with multiple CPUs (even under 2.4) and includes POSIX ACLs (even under 2.4), which are kind of cool if you're using recent versions of SAMBA and serving up to Windows PCs. XFS also supports a realtime partition type, which is designed to guarantee very high throughput rates for the most demanding applications (though it will be a while before this is fully supported in Linux). Right, and since XFS is meta-data journalling (like reiser), you have no more protection of data integrity than with reiserfs. I have reiser on my laptop, and xfs on my desktop machine. As you can image, the laptop loses power far more often than the desktop machine does, yet I haven't been able to find a situation where I've been able to convince reiser to randomly fill my files with NULL characters. I can't say the same for XFS, which has trashed a postgres database, my modules.conf file, my initrd.img file, and other useful files. I can't tell you how happy I am that my home directory is mounted on NFS these days. Your assertions about XFS having recovery tools are right though - I hear they're very good, but I've never used them. I can see that that's a compelling reason to choose XFS. It has been my experience though that reiser has handled the more garden-variety power failures far better than XFS. Just my experiences - I've not run either on SMP boxes or as an NFS server. James. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Filesystems
On Tue, Jul 29, 2003, Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Mary On Tue, Jul 29, 2003, Jeff Waugh wrote: But you're better off choosing ext3, jfs or xfs over reiserfs. :-) C'mon, back your assertions, it makes world domination easier you know! :-) Lots of rehashing here, but for the benefit of the list: I don't think I'd heard them -- at least I don't remember them. You can't get away with assuming people will figure I've backed them in the past, and go look up my opinions on Google, so now I can assert. I stand by my domination by reason hypothesis. Further advocacy meta-discussion to slug-chat... -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Filesystems
On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 00:45, Brett Fenton wrote: http://www.vmars.tuwien.ac.at/courses/akti12/journal/02ws/article_02ws_Menedetter.pdf I read this a while back it's about as clear as it's going to get, though has dated very slightly. It's also not there. Cheers, Bret Brett Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Mary On Tue, Jul 29, 2003, Jeff Waugh wrote: But you're better off choosing ext3, jfs or xfs over reiserfs. :-) C'mon, back your assertions, it makes world domination easier you know! :-) Lots of rehashing here, but for the benefit of the list: Okay, so, reiserfs has no recovery tools. None. If something goes wrong, whammo, you're potentially toast, eggs and bacon. It doesn't use inodes internally, so if you're running an NFS server on top of it, there's a translation layer in between. Slow, and not worth the indirection. It doesn't scale particularly well with SMP. It's a metadata-only journalling filesystem, so you're not protecting the integrity of the data itself, just the description of the data. It has had a number of extents-related issues in the past, writing over files and data that it should not have. Personally, I would not use reiserfs in a production environment, though I do use it for /tmp, for cvs checkouts and for big build trees. XFS is a long-standing filesystem that has been used on OS/2 and IRIX. It is especially good for high throughput applications, such as media work (which is not surprising given SGI's market). Metadata only journalling, scales incredibly well with multiple CPUs (even under 2.4) and includes POSIX ACLs (even under 2.4), which are kind of cool if you're using recent versions of SAMBA and serving up to Windows PCs. XFS also supports a realtime partition type, which is designed to guarantee very high throughput rates for the most demanding applications (though it will be a while before this is fully supported in Linux). On the other hand, ext3 is a relatively slow filesystem which is on-disk compatible with ext2, with optional full data journalling (which in some cases actually makes it faster; mail queues are a good example). You can upgrade to ext3 from ext2 without any hassles. There are lots of improvements to ext2/3 all the time, such as Daniel Phillips' htree patch which improves directory indexing performance. Because basically everyone uses these filesystems, you can rely on them as the most heavily tested and most likely to be improved filesystems available for Linux. - Jeff -- Brett Fenton General Manager NetRegistry Pty Ltd ___ http://www.netregistry.com.au/ Tel: +61 2 96996099 | Fax: +61 2 96996088 PO Box 270 Broadway | NSW 2007, Australia Your Total Internet Business Services Provider Trusted by 10,000s of Oz Businesses Since 1997 This email is from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. The contents of this message are commercial and in confidence to the intended addresseee. The message may contain copyrighted and/or legally priviledged information. No person or entity other than the intended recipient may read, print or store this message, including any and all attached files. The intended recipient may not forward this message to any third party without express written permission from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. -- bwaldow at alum.mit.edu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
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Re: [SLUG] Re: imap mail box for me?
DE LUCA Ben wrote: I just looks like pop mail to me, I need IMAP or laptop. And i think IMAP is cheaper. A shell (ssh) account may also be what you are after.. - Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Filesystems
When I click on the link it auto downloads the pdf it works for me. Brett Bret Comstock Waldow wrote: On Tue, 2003-07-29 at 00:45, Brett Fenton wrote: http://www.vmars.tuwien.ac.at/courses/akti12/journal/02ws/article_02ws_Menedetter.pdf I read this a while back it's about as clear as it's going to get, though has dated very slightly. It's also not there. Cheers, Bret Brett Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Mary On Tue, Jul 29, 2003, Jeff Waugh wrote: But you're better off choosing ext3, jfs or xfs over reiserfs. :-) C'mon, back your assertions, it makes world domination easier you know! :-) Lots of rehashing here, but for the benefit of the list: Okay, so, reiserfs has no recovery tools. None. If something goes wrong, whammo, you're potentially toast, eggs and bacon. It doesn't use inodes internally, so if you're running an NFS server on top of it, there's a translation layer in between. Slow, and not worth the indirection. It doesn't scale particularly well with SMP. It's a metadata-only journalling filesystem, so you're not protecting the integrity of the data itself, just the description of the data. It has had a number of extents-related issues in the past, writing over files and data that it should not have. Personally, I would not use reiserfs in a production environment, though I do use it for /tmp, for cvs checkouts and for big build trees. XFS is a long-standing filesystem that has been used on OS/2 and IRIX. It is especially good for high throughput applications, such as media work (which is not surprising given SGI's market). Metadata only journalling, scales incredibly well with multiple CPUs (even under 2.4) and includes POSIX ACLs (even under 2.4), which are kind of cool if you're using recent versions of SAMBA and serving up to Windows PCs. XFS also supports a realtime partition type, which is designed to guarantee very high throughput rates for the most demanding applications (though it will be a while before this is fully supported in Linux). On the other hand, ext3 is a relatively slow filesystem which is on-disk compatible with ext2, with optional full data journalling (which in some cases actually makes it faster; mail queues are a good example). You can upgrade to ext3 from ext2 without any hassles. There are lots of improvements to ext2/3 all the time, such as Daniel Phillips' htree patch which improves directory indexing performance. Because basically everyone uses these filesystems, you can rely on them as the most heavily tested and most likely to be improved filesystems available for Linux. - Jeff -- Brett Fenton General Manager NetRegistry Pty Ltd ___ http://www.netregistry.com.au/ Tel: +61 2 96996099 | Fax: +61 2 96996088 PO Box 270 Broadway | NSW 2007, Australia Your Total Internet Business Services Provider Trusted by 10,000s of Oz Businesses Since 1997 This email is from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. The contents of this message are commercial and in confidence to the intended addresseee. The message may contain copyrighted and/or legally priviledged information. No person or entity other than the intended recipient may read, print or store this message, including any and all attached files. The intended recipient may not forward this message to any third party without express written permission from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. -- Brett Fenton General Manager NetRegistry Pty Ltd ___ http://www.netregistry.com.au/ Tel: +61 2 96996099 | Fax: +61 2 96996088 PO Box 270 Broadway | NSW 2007, Australia Your Total Internet Business Services Provider Trusted by 10,000s of Oz Businesses Since 1997 This email is from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. The contents of this message are commercial and in confidence to the intended addresseee. The message may contain copyrighted and/or legally priviledged information. No person or entity other than the intended recipient may read, print or store this message, including any and all attached files. The intended recipient may not forward this message to any third party without express written permission from NetRegistry Pty Ltd. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Filesystems
quote who=James Gregory Right, and since XFS is meta-data journalling (like reiser), you have no more protection of data integrity than with reiserfs. I have reiser on my laptop, and xfs on my desktop machine. As you can image, the laptop loses power far more often than the desktop machine does, yet I haven't been able to find a situation where I've been able to convince reiser to randomly fill my files with NULL characters. I can't say the same for XFS, which has trashed a postgres database, my modules.conf file, my initrd.img file, and other useful files. I can't tell you how happy I am that my home directory is mounted on NFS these days. I had a similar experience with XFS 1.0, but not with 1.2. Your assertions about XFS having recovery tools are right though - I hear they're very good, but I've never used them. So, this is why the XFS tools rock: I decided to shift my software RAID-1 system from ext3 to xfs, first by failing one of the disks, formatting it as XFS, copying the stuff over, and re-RAIDing it all against the XFS disk. It all started well. However, when my raidtools configuration file was not available (use mdadm at home, kids), I started formatting what I thought was the second RAID partition as ext3. Due to some autoconfiguration foo of /dev/md* definitions, it ended up formatting the entire XFS disk, which was the only copy at that stage. So, SNAFU: normal xfs filesystem, formatted as ext3, all data kaput (there were backups, but not of a few particularly critical things that I really cared about). The success of recovery depended on how much a mke2fs -j would barf up an xfs filesystem. Fairly okay, but still scary. The XFS recovery tool pulled 90% of the filesystem, and despite having an enormous amount of lost+found files to resort, all was well. Lucky for me, I chose to screw up badly with XFS. :-) - Jeff (who uses ext3 most of the time) -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ I don't want the world, I just want your half. - They Might Be Giants, Ana Ng -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
