Re: [SLUG] Editing a windows registry file through Linux
Hi, Someone I know moved his dual-boot system to a new disk and now has problems logging in to the Windows partition. This may not apply in your situation, but if the machine has both the old and new disks installed, you may be able to trick windows into resetting the applicable settings by disconnecting the old drive. Sometimes, booting to a new drive with the old drive still installed, windows will see the old drive and think that's where it's supposed to be. If the old drive is absent, it will adapt to it's new home. After a successful boot with the old drive disconnected, you should be able to reconnect the old drive and reboot - and it will have forgotten all about the old drive. If you have moved windows from one partition to another on the same hard drive, or if the new location is not the same partition number as the original, then things get a little more complicated. You may also need to modify boot.ini. Adelle. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Nomination - Taryn East - Ordinary Committee Member
I'd like to nominate Taryn East for the role of Ordinary Committee Member. I've not spoken to Taryn about this as I've lost her email address :/ but I'm hoping she won't mind a nomination out of the blue :) Taryn's an active participant on the mailing list and an avid participant around SLUGlets at the monthly meetings and I think she'd be a great asset to the SLUG community. I hope, if your life / schedule allows, you'll be willing to consider this Taryn :) -- Cheers, Craige. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] FOR SALE: CTTE Positions!
On Tue, 2005-03-08 at 16:31 +1100, Robert Collins wrote: On Mon, 2005-03-07 at 22:24 +1100, Ken Wilson wrote: I an available for SLUG committee. Previous committee experience on various committees of voluntary organisations over the last 20 years, often as treasurer. Linux ability is far below most others on list, but committees are about organising and doing the preparation. Ken I nominate Ken for Treasurer General Committee member Seconded. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Nomination - Taryn East - Ordinary Committee Member
On Tue, 2005-03-08 at 19:24 +1100, Craige McWhirter wrote: I'd like to nominate Taryn East for the role of Ordinary Committee Member. I've not spoken to Taryn about this as I've lost her email address :/ but I'm hoping she won't mind a nomination out of the blue :) Taryn's an active participant on the mailing list and an avid participant around SLUGlets at the monthly meetings and I think she'd be a great asset to the SLUG community. I hope, if your life / schedule allows, you'll be willing to consider this Taryn :) Seconded. I think Taryn could be a useful addition to the SLUG committee. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Editing a windows registry file through Linux
Thanks, That's the program I was talking about (now I'm at home and can see that the links you give have already been visited :). He'll give it another go, maybe he missed something in the instructions. Cheers, --Amos On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 17:56:23 +1100, John Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 05:47:03 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We found a tool to edit the registry file on NTFS from Linux but it seems to be geared only towards reseting passwords, not about updating strings in the registry in general. http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/bootdisk.html http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/editor.html I've not used them, but it claims to be an almost fully functional registry editor. Cheers, John -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Puppy Linux
I think I just successfully downloaded the iso for Puppy and I also think I have successfully burnt a copy. No guarantees on either score, I am still in the early stages of understanding much about Linux. Can anyone tell me if Puppy can be installed to dual boot with the dreaded XP? If so, how might it be done? It would be appreciated if advice can be expressed in as non technical language as possible. John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Puppy Linux
sorry I only use kitten linux sheesh whats next pink elephant linux...ooh sorry On Tue, 2005-03-08 at 21:48, john gibbons wrote: I think I just successfully downloaded the iso for Puppy and I also think I have successfully burnt a copy. No guarantees on either score, I am still in the early stages of understanding much about Linux. Can anyone tell me if Puppy can be installed to dual boot with the dreaded XP? If so, how might it be done? It would be appreciated if advice can be expressed in as non technical language as possible. John. Regards Richard Neal Kryten Cat: Hey, I got it! We laser our way through!? Kryten: Ah, an excellent suggestion, Sir, with just two minor drawbacks. One, we don't have a power source for the lasers, and two, we don't have any lasers. - Cat and Kryten, White Hole ( Red Dwarf ) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Puppy Linux
john gibbons wrote: I think I just successfully downloaded the iso for Puppy and I also think I have successfully burnt a copy. No guarantees on either score, I am still in the early stages of understanding much about Linux. Can anyone tell me if Puppy can be installed to dual boot with the dreaded XP? If so, how might it be done? It would be appreciated if advice can be expressed in as non technical language as possible. John. I don't know much about this puppy suffice to say I have not heard of it but if it's anything like the other major distro's then it should be possible to dual boot it with windose. Possibly the easiest way for you to do this is to partition your drive first, having decided on partition sizes for each OS. Then install windows onto one of the partitions, then install the puppy onto the other. You may wish to post this question to the puppy forum for a more definite answer. Otherwise I say just try it. What's the worst that can happen ? Lose windose? meh. - Rocci. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Puppy Linux
On Tue Mar 08, 2005 at 21:48:00 +1100, john gibbons wrote: I think I just successfully downloaded the iso for Puppy and I also think I have successfully burnt a copy. No guarantees on either score, I am still in the early stages of understanding much about Linux. Can anyone tell me if Puppy can be installed to dual boot with the dreaded XP? If so, how might it be done? It would be appreciated if advice can be expressed in as non technical language as possible. I haven't tried it, but from a quick look at the page it looks as though the best way to go is just boot off the live cd, and the it will be able to use the Windows XP partition to store your data. I'm not sure what filesystem is installed with Windows these days, but you will need it partitined as FAT32, not NTFS. Hope that helps, Benno -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Puppy Linux
Dumbo Linux might help more of us escape from Windows' grasp. John. Richard Neal wrote: sorry I only use kitten linux sheesh whats next pink elephant linux...ooh sorry On Tue, 2005-03-08 at 21:48, john gibbons wrote: /I think I just successfully downloaded the iso for Puppy and I also think I have successfully burnt a copy. No guarantees on either score, I am still in the early stages of understanding much about Linux. Can anyone tell me if Puppy can be installed to dual boot with the dreaded XP? If so, how might it be done? It would be appreciated if advice can be expressed in as non technical language as possible. John./ Regards Richard Neal Kryten Cat: Hey, I got it! We laser our way through!? Kryten: Ah, an excellent suggestion, Sir, with just two minor drawbacks. One, we don't have a power source for the lasers, and two, we don't have any lasers.- Cat and Kryten, White Hole ( Red Dwarf ) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Puppy Linux
Well it sounds like a good small distro to get started on. If you feel you need to install it on the hard drive (which isnt needed, as i read on their site, you can run of a CD then it installs to ram, so you can use the CD for other stuff...or even run it of a CF card or something) there is a installation to hard drives located at: http://www.goosee.com/puppy/hard-puppy.htm [snip] Puppy v0.8.5 has a script Install Puppy hard drive, in the Setup menu. This is now the preferred choice, as it is so simple. You need to create live-Puppy, that is, boot Puppy off a CD. Go to the live-CD Puppy page for more about that. Basically though, creating live-CD Puppy is extremely simple: you just download the latest puppy-.iso file, which is a complete CD image, and burn it to CD. The install script is very cautious. It does not alter any partitions on your hard drive, nor does it touch the MBR (Master Boot Record). It creates a boot floppy disk. It does copy image.gz (Puppy himself) (and also file usr_cram.fs if it exists) onto a partition, but they are just files, so the partitions are not messed around with at all. When you get Puppy installed in this very cautious way, you might like to read further down this page to the take two instructions, to see how to configure a boot manager. [/snip] Shouldnt be too hard to set up...by the sounds of that it doesnt destroy anything... But as mentioned in an earlier post, id say you would need FAT32, not NTFS Luke john gibbons wrote: I think I just successfully downloaded the iso for Puppy and I also think I have successfully burnt a copy. No guarantees on either score, I am still in the early stages of understanding much about Linux. Can anyone tell me if Puppy can be installed to dual boot with the dreaded XP? If so, how might it be done? It would be appreciated if advice can be expressed in as non technical language as possible. John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Memory Usage
Hi Sluggers, I had a little issue with squid 2.5Stable1 using a lot of memory, I have since cleared and rebuilt squid and everything seems to be running smoothly again... Im just wondering, when I run top it shows the memory used at 476232k, is that right, or is something using the memory that shouldn't be... 09:52:38 up 370 days, 1:39, 1 user, load average: 0.07, 0.02, 0.00 49 processes: 47 sleeping, 2 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped CPU states: 1.1% user 0.0% system 0.0% nice 0.0% iowait 98.8% idle Mem: 481492k av, 476232k used,5260k free, 0k shrd, 88392k buff 350252k actv, 84k in_d, 10304k in_c Swap: 979956k av, 59912k used, 920044k free 197564k cached PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME CPU COMMAND 29511 root 15 0 1144 1144 848 R 1.1 0.2 0:00 0 top 1 root 15 0 108 8456 S 0.0 0.0 0:12 0 init 2 root 15 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 0 keventd 3 root 15 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 0 kapmd 4 root 34 19 00 0 SWN 0.0 0.0 0:02 0 ksoftirqd_CPU0 9 root 15 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 0 bdflush 5 root 15 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 5:15 0 kswapd 6 root 15 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 0 kscand/DMA 7 root 15 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 421:54 0 kscand/Normal 8 root 15 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 0 kscand/HighMem 10 root 15 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:02 0 kupdated 11 root 24 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 0 mdrecoveryd 15 root 15 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 1:59 0 kjournald 73 root 25 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 0 khubd 2259 root 15 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 0 kjournald 2587 root 15 0 188 160 112 S 0.0 0.0 0:13 0 syslogd 2591 root 15 0524 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 0 klogd 2609 rpc 23 0760 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 0 portmap 2628 rpcuser 25 0760 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 0 rpc.statd 2695 root 24 0484 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 0 apmd 2732 root 15 0 376 228 136 S 0.0 0.0 0:01 0 sshd 2747 root 24 0 1204 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 0 xinetd 2759 root 25 0 1524 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 0 safe_mysqld 2789 mysql 15 0 3840 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 0 mysqld 2803 root 15 0 1040 556 388 S 0.0 0.1 0:30 0 sendmail 2812 smmsp 15 0 792 324 248 S 0.0 0.0 0:01 0 sendmail 2832 root 15 0 148 13288 S 0.0 0.0 0:03 0 crond 2917 xfs 15 0 2316 5632 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 0 xfs 2935 daemon15 0 176 160 120 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 0 atd 2947 root 15 0 3536 1084 404 S 0.0 0.2 0:49 0 miniserv.pl 2950 root 21 0484 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 0 mingetty 2951 root 21 0484 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 0 mingetty 2952 root 21 0484 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 0 mingetty 2953 root 21 0484 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 0 mingetty 2954 root 21 0484 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 0 mingetty 2955 root 21 0484 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 0 mingetty 2956 root 15 0 6360 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 0 gdm-binary 3015 root 23 0 1564 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 0 XKeepsCrashing 3024 root 25 0404 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 0 gdmopen 3025 root 25 0 1484 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 0 XKeepsCrashing 3066 root 25 0 1404 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 0 dialog 24907 root 15 0 00 0 SW0.0 0.0 0:00 0 eth0 27525 root 15 0 3084 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 0 squid 27527 squid 15 0 140M 136M 844 S 0.0 28.9 12:30 0 squid 27528 squid 15 080 7648 S 0.0 0.0 0:00 0 unlinkd 27825 root 15 0 1156 1156 536 S 0.0 0.2 0:00 0 dhcpd 28360 root 15 0 804 680 324 S 0.0 0.1 0:01 0 cupsd 29471 root 24 0 1404 1404 1092 S 0.0 0.2 0:00 0 bash Kind Regards, Terry Denovan -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Puppy Linux
Thanks to those giving advice. Got it running and it looks like a sweet little distro. However, I think I accidentally entered the wrong info for my mouse, identifying it as usb instead of usb(ps2). So there is this nice screen looking at me with a dead mouse. I tried reinstalling it twice but it is not giving me the option to alter the mouse setting so I can only look and not touch. Anyone out there who has experience of Puppy Linux and can advise me re mouse? John. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Memory Usage
On Wed, 2005-03-09 at 10:51 +1100, Terry Denovan wrote: smoothly again... Im just wondering, when I run top it shows the memory used at 476232k, is that right, or is something using the memory that shouldn't be... Linux likes to use unused memory for caching, which is most likely what you're seeing. 09:52:38 up 370 days, 1:39, 1 user, load average: 0.07, 0.02, 0.00 49 processes: 47 sleeping, 2 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped CPU states: 1.1% user 0.0% system 0.0% nice 0.0% iowait 98.8% idle Mem: 481492k av, 476232k used,5260k free, 0k shrd, 88392k buff 350252k actv, 84k in_d, 10304k in_c Swap: 979956k av, 59912k used, 920044k free 197564k cached The buff and cached numbers are the important ones; apparently half your memory is being used to cache disk access. The kernel will free it up if needed by programs. There's more than one very good explanation of how memory usage is reported in the mailing list archives. My favourite is http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2001/09/msg00744.html . Cheers, -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] youth and linux?
out of curiosity - is there anyting specific to support younger people? Mainly becuase my BF's son (16) is getting interested in this stuff and was wondering where a good place to point him would be. I was thinking of dragging him along to SLUGlets to start with but was wondering if there's anything special set up. Cheers, Taryn -- This .sig temporarily out-of-order. We apologise for any inconvenience - The Management -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] youth and linux?
Taryn East wrote: out of curiosity - is there anyting specific to support younger people? Mainly becuase my BF's son (16) is getting interested in this stuff and was wondering where a good place to point him would be. I was thinking of dragging him along to SLUGlets to start with but was wondering if there's anything special set up. Cheers, Taryn any linux forum, or try the linux area in whirlpool.net.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] youth and linux?
On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 11:18:48 +1100, Taryn East [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: out of curiosity - is there anyting specific to support younger people? Mainly becuase my BF's son (16) is getting interested in this stuff and was wondering where a good place to point him would be. I was thinking of dragging him along to SLUGlets to start with but was wondering if there's anything special set up. Give them a crash n burn machine, and then a few distros to play with. Direct them to the howto LDP stuff. Best way to learn is to jump in and use. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] youth and linux?
This stuff Do you mean computers and linux? Like windows, linux has a hardware compatibility list. Do you know what he wants to do with Linux? The way I started out was playing with DEC unix at uni way back when win3.0 was out, I hated using windows since the release of win95, and found Linux a happy medium, for programming and gaming. I first got linux in a redhat unleashed it was a pretty comprehensive book. He could also look at linux.org, linux.com and read the documentation. The other thing is that you could install a program called vmware if feel nervous about installing linux on your computer. out of curiosity - is there anyting specific to support younger people? Mainly becuase my BF's son (16) is getting interested in this stuff and was wondering where a good place to point him would be. I was thinking of dragging him along to SLUGlets to start with but was wondering if there's anything special set up. Cheers, Taryn -- This .sig temporarily out-of-order. We apologise for any inconvenience - The Management -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] youth and linux?
On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 11:39:52 +1100, Kevin Saenz uttered The other thing is that you could install a program called vmware if feel nervous about installing linux on your computer. Or use one of the LiveCD's such as Knoppix or Ubuntu ... Cheers, -- Steve Why does everyone say 'Relax' when they're about to do something terrible? - Ensign Harry Kim, USS Voyager -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] youth and linux?
On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 11:39:52 +1100, Kevin Saenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This stuff Do you mean computers and linux? Like windows, linux has a hardware compatibility list. Do you know what he wants to do with Linux? The way I started out was playing with DEC unix at uni way back when win3.0 was out, I hated using windows since the release of win95, and found Linux a happy medium, for programming and gaming. I first got linux in a redhat unleashed it was a pretty comprehensive book. He could also look at linux.org, linux.com and read the documentation. The other thing is that you could install a program called vmware if feel nervous about installing linux on your computer. Yes vmware is a good thing. By all means buy a copy and keep my company I work for in business *winks* I've used vmware for a number of years, and its certainly good way to evaluate linux without fearing about breaking an existing system through any faults you make installing. Vmware 5 will be out soon, and will bring with it even more functions to an already great product. Excellent suggestion, I should of said it myself -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] youth and linux?
damn.. must remember... shift-L to reply! * Michael Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake thus: On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 11:18:48 +1100, Taryn East [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Give them a crash n burn machine, and then a few distros to play with. Direct them to the howto LDP stuff. Best way to learn is to jump in and use. agreed but.. it's not always everybody's favourite way of learning - and I was more interested in getting him interested in the community than just playing with distros... what I personally often find is that there is little motivation to learn something if all you can do is play - it's better if you have: a) a problem you are attempting to solve with it (and therefore an angle into it that you can pursue) OR b) a whole bunch of like-minded friends that can talk about nifty things you find out about it and can help you try out yourself... in this case I know he doesn't have the former (and unlikely to as noone around him is using linux apart from myself and his father... and he doesn't see me very often and his dad is still just trying to get his system to work). and I was hoping to explore the latter option - if there was a group avaiable... I was looking for something equivalent to Linuxchix - ie a group of people the same age that had an interest and can support each other... Cheers, Taryn -- This .sig temporarily out-of-order. We apologise for any inconvenience - The Management -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] youth and linux?
* Kevin Saenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake thus: This stuff Do you mean computers and linux? Like windows, linux has a hardware compatibility list. Do you know what he wants to do with Linux? The way I started out was playing with DEC unix at uni way back when win3.0 was out, I hated using windows since the release of win95, and found Linux a happy medium, for programming and gaming. I first got linux in a redhat unleashed it was a pretty comprehensive book. He could also look at linux.org, linux.com and read the documentation. Again - starting by reading reams of doco and trying to figure out something you want to do isn't as interesting (IMO) as having a bunch of people to talk to about it who say I did this really nifty thing the other day, why don't you try it? enthusiam (especially about such a nebulous group of stuff as linux or even open source) generally is infectious and spreads better the more people you can get in close-contact with. :) I gues I was mainly wondering if such a group already did exist, specifically with youth in mind... I'm already planning on dragging him around the generic haunts... The other thing is that you could install a program called vmware if feel nervous about installing linux on your computer. grin have been running debian for several years now and recently changed over to ubuntu (though I should have stuck with Warty - changing over to Hoary killed my printer-driver somehow... :P ) and his dad has been using linux - though for less time... though he insists that he wants to run gentoo - though it's taking him ages to get it actually in a running and stable state :P Anyway, he has a Mac laptop of some descript and I think he's using whatever the latest Mac OS is (don't know much about 'em myself). I handed him the ubuntu cd-set a week or so ago though I haven't heard back about it just yet. so no problem with having a machine up and available... Cheers, Taryn -- This .sig temporarily out-of-order. We apologise for any inconvenience - The Management -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] youth and linux?
I don't think that anyone suggested it, but what's wrong with coming along to SLUG meetings? The times I've been it definitely hasn't been an adults only kind of meeting. Definitely some young folk around. I don't know about your BF's son, but when I was 16 I got waaay more mileage out of older people and computers than I would have hanging around a bunch of teenagers, regardless of their technical abilities. Taryn East wrote: * Kevin Saenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake thus: This stuff Do you mean computers and linux? Like windows, linux has a hardware compatibility list. Do you know what he wants to do with Linux? The way I started out was playing with DEC unix at uni way back when win3.0 was out, I hated using windows since the release of win95, and found Linux a happy medium, for programming and gaming. I first got linux in a redhat unleashed it was a pretty comprehensive book. He could also look at linux.org, linux.com and read the documentation. Again - starting by reading reams of doco and trying to figure out something you want to do isn't as interesting (IMO) as having a bunch of people to talk to about it who say I did this really nifty thing the other day, why don't you try it? enthusiam (especially about such a nebulous group of stuff as linux or even open source) generally is infectious and spreads better the more people you can get in close-contact with. :) I gues I was mainly wondering if such a group already did exist, specifically with youth in mind... I'm already planning on dragging him around the generic haunts... The other thing is that you could install a program called vmware if feel nervous about installing linux on your computer. grin have been running debian for several years now and recently changed over to ubuntu (though I should have stuck with Warty - changing over to Hoary killed my printer-driver somehow... :P ) and his dad has been using linux - though for less time... though he insists that he wants to run gentoo - though it's taking him ages to get it actually in a running and stable state :P Anyway, he has a Mac laptop of some descript and I think he's using whatever the latest Mac OS is (don't know much about 'em myself). I handed him the ubuntu cd-set a week or so ago though I haven't heard back about it just yet. so no problem with having a machine up and available... Cheers, Taryn -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Puppy Linux
Benno wrote: On Tue Mar 08, 2005 at 21:48:00 +1100, john gibbons wrote: I think I just successfully downloaded the iso for Puppy and I also think I have successfully burnt a copy. No guarantees on either score, I am still in the early stages of understanding much about Linux. Can anyone tell me if Puppy can be installed to dual boot with the dreaded XP? If so, how might it be done? It would be appreciated if advice can be expressed in as non technical language as possible. I haven't tried it, but from a quick look at the page it looks as though the best way to go is just boot off the live cd, and the it will be able to use the Windows XP partition to store your data. I'm not sure what filesystem is installed with Windows these days, but you will need it partitined as FAT32, not NTFS. NTFS. You can read/write NTFS reliably under Linux with 'captive NTFS'. GIYF. Mike -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Editing a windows registry file through Linux
Hi, Thanks for everyone's help and suggestions. It was just reported to me that the bootdisk from the link below does work as advertised. It's just that the user wasn't familiar with MS's registry terminology (key actually used for a directory of entries (so to speak), he expected it to be more like a Berkeley DB or Perl Hash key/data thing). So a second attempt at it fixed the problem and the moved windows partition works (within the limits of Windows' definition of works, of course :). Cheers, --amos On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 17:56:23 +1100, John Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 05:47:03 +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We found a tool to edit the registry file on NTFS from Linux but it seems to be geared only towards reseting passwords, not about updating strings in the registry in general. http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/bootdisk.html http://home.eunet.no/~pnordahl/ntpasswd/editor.html I've not used them, but it claims to be an almost fully functional registry editor. Cheers, John -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Puppy Linux
Kevin Saenz wrote: NTFS. You can read/write NTFS reliably under Linux with 'captive NTFS'. GIYF. Isn't writing to NTFS still experimental? Using captive NTFS (which uses Microsoft's own driver to do the reading/writing), no, read and writing work fine. Using the OSS code in the kernel, yes, writing is experimental. Mike -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Memory Usage
On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 10:51 am, Terry Denovan wrote: Hi Sluggers, I had a little issue with squid 2.5Stable1 using a lot of memory, I have since cleared and rebuilt squid and everything seems to be running smoothly again... Im just wondering, when I run top it shows the memory used at 476232k, is that right, or is something using the memory that shouldn't be... I've always found it odd that a lot of people worry when their operating system uses memory. You paid for - why not let the system use it? ;) Linux and most other real operating systems will take advantage of unused RAM and allocate it for disk buffers and disk cache. This is a good thing! The kernel will free up buffers and/or cache as it deems appropriate if an application needs the space. To the end user (or system admin) the whole process is completely transparent and very fast. As your applications chew up RAM, very little will used for buffer and cache (as the apps are using it). When the apps fill the RAM or even exceed it, swap comes into play (and buffer+cache will be very small % of total RAM). Swapping (paging) is bad coz it's slooow. RAM is many orders of magnitude faster than even the fastest disks so if your system is paging like mad, buy more RAM. If your system is all whiz-bang fast and never pages, then relax and let the kernel be happy doing its thing :) James -- The rain it raineth on the just And also on the unjust fella, But chiefly on the just, because The unjust steals the just's umbrella. pgplmxW6LYOhQ.pgp Description: PGP signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Memory Usage
On Wed, 9 Mar 2005 05:52 pm, Rajnish wrote: All, Slight tangent to the current thread. James Gray wrote: Linux and most other real operating systems will take advantage of unused RAM and allocate it for disk buffers and disk cache. This is a good thing! The kernel will free up buffers and/or cache as it deems appropriate if an application needs the space. To the end user (or system admin) the whole process is completely transparent and very fast. I've got a pretty old and still reasonable powerful 450Mhz PC with 196MB RAM. It runs all Ubuntu, FC3 and Win2K quite happily. Firefox startup on Win2K is noticeably quicker than either of my Linux distros. Is there a way to improve this startup ? Firefox/Mozilla startup on Linux/Unix/etc is a dog's breakfast to put it lightly. The firefox executeable is actually a big ugly shell script that does all sorts of jiggery-pokery to set everything just right so the browser is happy with the world once up and running. This (AFAIK) is due to the inherent inconsistencies between all the various *nix flavours Mozilla and Firefox run on. So rather than inventing a different set of options for every *nix, they've made this big ugly script that works everywhere, on all *nix'es. It sux, but it works. I guess if you can reverse-engineer the script, figure out what the hell it does then manually chant the final incantation in one command (eg, mozilla-bin foo=oof bar=rab baz=zab etc=etc) you could probably by-pass the script altogether :) I believe it's been done, but never bothered - I've got an AMD64 system with 1GB of RAM and fast hard drives... speed isn't exactly a problem for me :P Cheers, James -- Over the years, I've developed my sense of deja vu so acutely that now I can remember things that *have* happened before ... pgpAt9G2qDx3v.pgp Description: PGP signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
