[SLUG] SFD Coffs Harbour Call for Participation.
Hi all, I'm the Team Contact for this year's Software Freedom Day event in Coffs Harbour. This is the third year we've organised a day-long informal seminar-type event for Software Freedom Day, featuring presentations, demonstrations, conversations, and coffee and bikkies. Last year (see http://computerclub.cex.com.au/sfd) we had awesomely fun day with a range of presenters from in and around Coffs Harbour who use free software at home, in business, and in their educational or community organisations. We had an attendance of over fifty people over the course of the day, which may not sound like much, but relative to population that's like getting 3,000 people to an event in Sydney. This year we've got a larger venue and the target is to at least double last year's attendance. In order to achieve this, we want to shake up the program a bit by inviting people from further afield (ie. spamming all the LUG lists) to help us out. We're looking for people willing to give short ( 30mins) presentations on free software-related topics, while enjoying a pleasant little break in one of the nicest parts of the country (with the exception it must be said of Coffs CBD, which stands as a starkly offensive monument to laissez-faire town planning). We can guarantee you free-as-in-beer sofa or spare room style accommodation, but if your tastes are a bit more up-market there's no shortage of accommodation here, and it's relatively inexpensive in the off-season. On our wishlist is sponsorship from a local resort/hotel/BB, but we haven't begun enquiries there yet. We have a couple of local businesses specialising in free software based services, and an increasing number of businesses and other organisations in the area catching on to the benefits of freedom, so if you're in business and looking for customers or partners you may find the trip well worth making. We also have a growing geek community here with people of various levels of expertise looking for cool projects to work on. We don't want to poach/detract from anybody else's event in any way, but I know from experience there are diminishing returns in talking to the same crowd over and over. So if you're doing something with free software that you think the wider world should know about, we encourage you to step out from the comfort zone of your local LUG and come to Coffs Harbour to spread the word. If Coffs is too far away, consider offering your services to any SFD event closer to home outside of a major metropolitan area. Please email me at the above address (with 'SFD' in the title) if you're interested in contributing. This month I'll be traveling through Newcastle, Sydney, Canberra, Albury, and Melbourne once or twice each, so I'm even available for a face to face chat in those places. Matthew Davidson. -- Alma Technology - The future is free and open http://www.almatech.net.au ... (02) 6658 1607 -- http://computerclub.cex.com.au http://www.clublinux.org.au -- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. - Thomas Jefferson http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/a1_8_8s12.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Trojan Horse Loaded Version Of Ubuntu 7.04 Spreading Over Torrent Sites
This is generally sage advice of course, but I'm inclined to take this particular report with a pinch of salt. This report doesn't cite sources, there's no mention of the phenomenon on ubuntu.com, and a cursory Googling turns up no other reports of this happening. Matthew. Amos Shapira wrote: For the benefit of those who might not follow such news (e.g. Linux newbies who take their first steps in downloading and installing such software), I post this here as a warning - don't download just any copy of a Linux distro unless it's coming from an official distro site and (or?) without verifying the checksums with those provided on an official mirror site. http://www.funtechtalk.com/trojan-horse-loaded-version-of-ubuntu-704-spreading-over-torrent-sites/ Cheers, --Amos -- Alma Technology - The future is free and open http://www.almatech.net.au ... (02) 6658 1607 ... 0419 242 316 -- http://computerclub.cex.com.au http://www.clublinux.org.au -- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. - Thomas Jefferson http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/a1_8_8s12.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Belated Breezy Badger Bash Coffs Harbour
Hi all, For those living in and around Coffs Harbour, the Coffs Ex-Services Computer Club is holding a Belated Breezy Badger Bash for our next meeting: 7pm Friday November 4th Bowling Club Section Coffs Ex-Services Club I am checking my mailbox daily in the hope that shipit.ubuntu.com is working a lot better than it did with Hoary. Failing that, I will have burnt CD images (maddeningly unreliable to install from, in my experience), and I've installed apt-proxy on the club's computer, so people on low-bandwidth connections can bring their computers in to meetings for a relatively speedy upgrade. From this meeting on, the first meeting of every odd-numbered month will be devoted to free software. Most other meetings have a high free software quotient, because that's what I know about and it appears proprietary software users generally don't get excited enough about their software to want to talk about it in public. However these meetings are designed so that people not interested in proprietary software can come along confident that they won't have to listen to an hour-long discussion about MS Office, and people who have no interest in free software, should such people exist, can - I don't know - stay at home and audit their licences or whatever. A negligable amount of additional detail is available on our site at http://cescc.almatech.net.au/ Matthew. -- Alma Technology http://www.almatech.net.au (02) 6658 1607 ... 0419 242 316 -- I think the biggest misconception about the Web is thinking that there is somebody else in charge. There isn't. The Internet is just us. - Douglas Adams -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Software Freedom Day Coffs Harbour
Hi all, In the grip of a manic episode, I have abused my position as Vice President of the Coffs Ex-Services Computer Club to commit us to a Software Freedom Day event: http://cescc.almatech.net.au/wiki/wiki/index.php?page=SoftwareFreedomDay As the only member of said club to have any real experience with free software, I would really appreciate the help of any members of the free software community in, near, or passing through Coffs Harbour on the day. If you can give a presentation, help with the installfest, or just whoop with american-studio-audience-style-delight whenever someone says free, GPL, Linux, etc. you'll be doing the cause a real favour. Matthew. -- Alma Technology http://www.almatech.net.au (02) 6658 1607 ... 0419 242 316 -- All I want for my birthday is another birthday. - Ian Dury -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] OT: Bigpond blocking port 25
Hi, It appears Bigpond is blocking all outgoing traffic on port 25, except via their own mail servers. I've just spent half a day with a client trying to work out why he could no longer send email (his mail server is with an overseas ISP) The announcement that they were doing this (http://www.bigpond.com/announcement/) was almost, but not quite, as discreet as displaying it in a locked filing cabinet in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying 'beware of the leopard'. It's vague about the nature of the changes they made, and I had to badger technical support to get them to admit they were blocking port 25. My client was certainly not aware that this was going to happen, and was considerably inconvenienced. As far as I can see, it's now impossible to run your own SMTP server via a Bigpond connection, or to use any outgoing mail server but mail.bigpond.com. Obviously this is an attempt to reduce the amount of spam and email virus traffic on Bigpond's network, but am I unreasonable in thinking this is a bit heavy-handed? Matthew. -- Alma Technology http://www.almatech.net.au (02) 6658 1607 ... 0419 242 316 -- ...running an application in a browser is no longer like writing with a brick tied to [your] pencil. - Mitch Kapor -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] PHP Tidy
Hi,
I want to manipulate some HTML code with PHP, and it appears the tidy
extension is the way to do it. I have installed everything by the book:
# apt-get install libtidy0 libtidy-dev
# pear -v install tidy
and added 'extension=tidy.so' to php.ini.
phpinfo() reports that the extension is loaded.
Unfortunately, this:
?php
$tidy =
tidy_parse_string('htmlheadtitleTest/titlebodyh1test/h1/body/html');
?
causes PHP to segfault, when run from both apache and the command line.
Any other test string I've tried does the same thing, as does
tidy_parse_file().
Some other functions, such as tidy_get_config() don't cause a segfault
(and actually work as advertised), unfortunately these are the functions
that don't actually do anything useful.
I am running Debian Sarge, php4, and apache 1.3.
What am I doing wrong?
Matthew.
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Re: [SLUG] PHP Tidy
Menno Schaaf wrote:
http://au.php.net/tidy
See example two: Basic Tidy Usage
That's using the OO interface which I understand only works with php5
and tidy 2.0. It gives me a Fatal error: Cannot instantiate
non-existent class: tidy message. I'm using php 4.3.10 and tidy 1.1.
I have tried just about every bit of non-OO sample code I can find, with
a segfault every time, so I presume the problem is something to do with
my system rather than the PHP code. Even if my code is screwy, it
should die with an error message, not segfault.
I can't think of what the problem is, though. I've tried using the
original stand-alone tidy program with no problems. I've tried
installing slighty older versions of the tidy libs, and it makes no
difference.
Matthew.
On 5/25/05, Matthew Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I want to manipulate some HTML code with PHP, and it appears the tidy
extension is the way to do it. I have installed everything by the book:
# apt-get install libtidy0 libtidy-dev
# pear -v install tidy
and added 'extension=tidy.so' to php.ini.
phpinfo() reports that the extension is loaded.
Unfortunately, this:
?php
$tidy =
tidy_parse_string('htmlheadtitleTest/titlebodyh1test/h1/body/html');
?
causes PHP to segfault, when run from both apache and the command line.
Any other test string I've tried does the same thing, as does
tidy_parse_file().
Some other functions, such as tidy_get_config() don't cause a segfault
(and actually work as advertised), unfortunately these are the functions
that don't actually do anything useful.
I am running Debian Sarge, php4, and apache 1.3.
What am I doing wrong?
Matthew.
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Re: [SLUG] Group Calendaring Application
Jesus Salvo Jr. wrote: Anyone tried Novell's SUSE LINUX Openexchange Server ? http://www.novell.com/products/openexchange/screenshots.html For that matter has anyone been brave enough to try Hula yet? (http://www.hula-project.org/) I have a prospective client who wants a hassle-free email/calendaring solution. Interoperability will be important eventually, but I don't care if it takes a year for the promised CalDAV support to materialise as long as I can implement something that has the basic functionality now and can be confident of a reasonably painless upgrade to a more featureful version in the future. I notice Ubuntu Hoary has Hula in Universe. Matthew. -- Alma Technology http://www.almatech.net.au (02) 6658 1607 ... 0419 242 316 -- ...running an application in a browser is no longer like writing with a brick tied to [your] pencil. - Mitch Kapor -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Cyrus
O Plameras wrote: Matthew Davidson wrote: localhost.localdomain cm user.name But curiously, I can't then delete the mailbox: Before you attempt to delete a mailbox, be sure to use the setaclmailbox command to give yourself explicit /d/ (delete) rights before deleting a mailbox, as in the following example: |localhost setaclmailbox user.johndoe cyrusadm d| |localhost deletemailbox user.johndoe| Thanks, you got me 90% of the way there. I've found (on Cyrus2.1 at least) you also have to give yourself create rights (c) in order to delete a mailbox. Matthew. -- Alma Technology http://www.almatech.net.au (02) 6658 1607 ... 0419 242 316 -- ...running an application in a browser is no longer like writing with a brick tied to [your] pencil. - Mitch Kapor -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: Cyrus
Matthew Palmer wrote: On Wed, Mar 02, 2005 at 01:14:14PM +1100, Matthew Davidson wrote: I have set up /etc/imapd.conf for virtual domains with a global admin user as per the docs. However, when I try to set up a mailbox associated with a particular domain thus: # saslpasswd2 -c [EMAIL PROTECTED] # cyradm --user cyrus localhost localhost.localdomain cm [EMAIL PROTECTED] createmailbox: Permission denied Is the result. Check the logs; cyrus (at least the old 1.5 which I'm still using) is pretty good at logging why things failed. Also, the global admin user may still need cm perms on the specific vdomain, although that I'm not so sure of. I bumped up the verbosity in /etc/defaults/cyrus21 to no avail. Couldn't see any message relating to the permission denied in /var/log/mail.err, /var/log/mail.info, /var/log/mail.log, or /var/log/mail.warn. In fact no messages at all except when restarting cyrus, or authenticating via cyradm. I can't see any way of assigning rights to a particular domain. As far as I can make out from the docs, in Cyrus a user is a user is a user, and domains exist only as the @somewhere.tld string in usernames, at least as far as account creation and administration are concerned. I'm not even daring to aspire to actually sending and receiving mail at this stage. Intensive Googling suggests that I am the only person on Earth to have had this problem, which happens to me more than one would expect, so in desperation, here is my /etc/imapd.conf (minus comments), in the hope that someone can spot something obvious that I'm missing: configdirectory: /var/lib/cyrus defaultpartition: default partition-default: /var/spool/cyrus/mail partition-news: /var/spool/cyrus/news newsspool: /var/spool/news virtdomains: yes defaultdomain: mydomain.net.au altnamespace: no unixhierarchysep: no admins: cyrus allowanonymouslogin: no popminpoll: 1 autocreatequota: 0 umask: 077 sieveusehomedir: false sievedir: /var/spool/sieve hashimapspool: true allowplaintext: yes sasl_pwcheck_method: auxprop sasl_auto_transition: no tls_ca_path: /etc/ssl/certs tls_session_timeout: 1440 tls_cipher_list: TLSv1:SSLv3:SSLv2:!NULL:!EXPORT:!DES:!LOW:@STRENGTH lmtpsocket: /var/run/cyrus/socket/lmtp idlesocket: /var/run/cyrus/socket/idle notifysocket: /var/run/cyrus/socket/notify Matthew. -- Alma Technology http://www.almatech.net.au (02) 6658 1607 ... 0419 242 316 -- ...running an application in a browser is no longer like writing with a brick tied to [your] pencil. - Mitch Kapor -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Cyrus
Hi All, Since it's been adopted as the standard IMAP server for UserLinux, I thought I'd check out Cyrus (on Debian Sarge). I am finding the documentation more unfriendly than is usual for free software (which is saying something), and third-party documentation rather thin on the ground. I am consequently having trouble getting my head around some fairly fundamental concepts. Or perhaps I'm just getting too old for this sort of thing, and my brain is no longer sufficiently elastic. I have set up /etc/imapd.conf for virtual domains with a global admin user as per the docs. However, when I try to set up a mailbox associated with a particular domain thus: # saslpasswd2 -c [EMAIL PROTECTED] # cyradm --user cyrus localhost localhost.localdomain cm [EMAIL PROTECTED] createmailbox: Permission denied Is the result. I can set up users without explicitly specifying a domain, which I suppose puts them in the default domain set in /etc/imapd.conf: localhost.localdomain cm user.name But curiously, I can't then delete the mailbox: localhost.localdomain dm user.name deletemailbox: Permission denied I am sure I'm missing something pretty basic, but I haven't the foggiest what that is. Can anybody SMTP a clue in my direction? Matthew. -- Alma Technology http://www.almatech.net.au (02) 6658 1607 ... 0419 242 316 -- ...running an application in a browser is no longer like writing with a brick tied to [your] pencil. - Mitch Kapor -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] (Slightly OT) Neuros
Hi, Does anybody know if it's possible to get the Neuros digital audio computer (http://neurosaudio.com/) in Australia? It's miles ahead of anything else in terms of free-software-friendliness (http://open.neurosaudio.com/), but not only can't I find an Australian retailer, I can't even find a retailer in the US that will ship it overseas. Matthew. -- Alma Technology http://www.almatech.net.au (02) 6658 1607 ... 0419 242 316 -- Make the switch to a safer, better web browsing experience: http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ http://www.switch2firefox.com/ http://www.spreadfirefox.com/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Elementary symlink question
Hi, I'm missing something very fundamental about symlinks. Say I want to test some trivial little program I've written, but want to make it easy to switch between revisions. I thought the following should work: lrwxrwxrwx 1 mdavids mdavids 12 2004-09-13 15:52 application - version/0.3/ -rw-r--r-- 1 mdavids mdavids0 2004-09-13 15:43 file drwxr-sr-x 5 mdavids mdavids 4096 2004-09-13 15:51 version file is some data I want to work on. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/test$ cd application [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/test/application$ ls -l ../file ls: ../file: No such file or directory But bash even autocompletes the name file for me! [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/test/application$ ls -l ../ total 12 drwxr-sr-x 2 mdavids mdavids 4096 2004-09-13 15:51 0.1 drwxr-sr-x 2 mdavids mdavids 4096 2004-09-13 15:51 0.2 drwxr-sr-x 2 mdavids mdavids 4096 2004-09-13 15:51 0.3 It's embarrasing for someone as terribly, terribly old as me to make such an admission of ignorance, but this is not the behaviour I would expect from symlinks. This is what I'd expect from MS shortcuts. Can somebody explain why this is, and what technique would yield something like the desired effect? Matthew -- -- 0419 242 316 ... (02) 6658 1607 -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. (Save as HTML or RTF) See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our people and our country, and neither do we. -- George W. Bush -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Elementary symlink question
On Mon, 2004-09-13 at 16:40, Ian Wienand wrote: On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 04:04:43PM +1000, Matthew Davidson wrote: lrwxrwxrwx 1 mdavids mdavids 12 2004-09-13 15:52 application - version/0.3/ -rw-r--r-- 1 mdavids mdavids0 2004-09-13 15:43 file drwxr-sr-x 5 mdavids mdavids 4096 2004-09-13 15:51 version [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/test$ cd application is the equivalent of doing cd version/0.3 Funny; I've always assumed that the system treated a directory symlink as a real directory that just happens to have exactly the same contents as some other directory. I suppose I'd never put myself in a situation to find out outherwise. However, I maintain that's the way it _should_ work! Matthew. -- -- 0419 242 316 ... (02) 6658 1607 -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. (Save as HTML or RTF) See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our people and our country, and neither do we. -- George W. Bush -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Virtual hosts and PHP4 safe_mode
Hi, Just wondering if anybody on the list uses PHP's safe_mode directive. It seems to be the only viable solution to keeping people's noses out of each other's business in a virtual host environment, but it seems like it might break a lot of commonly-used scripts. Any good or bad experiences? Matthew. -- 0419 242 316 ... (02) 6658 1607 -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. (Save as HTML or RTF) See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our people and our country, and neither do we. -- George W. Bush -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Symlinks and PHP4
Here's a really elementary question about symlinks that's taxing my
limited mental capacity:
I want to write some php apps to be made available to a number of
virtual hosts on a web server. It seems to me that you should be able
to put the apps themselves somewhere outside the web root, for instance
'/usr/share/phpapp', and have a symlink from the virtual hosts web root,
i.e.:
/var/www/host.domain.tld/phpapp = /usr/share/phpapp
Then in the application directory have a config file which includes a
host-specific config file:
require_once('../config/phpapp.php');
To my mind, this should fetch
'/var/www/host.domain.tld/config/phpapp.php', but it doesn't; it looks
for '/usr/share/config/phpapp.php'.
My question is, why? And the supplementary question is, how do I get
the behaviour I'm after?
Matthew.
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Re: [SLUG] Symlinks and PHP4
Del wrote:
... PHP opens files relative to the currently running script's
location. If you are running /usr/share/phpapp/myfile.php then
require_once('a.php') will require /usr/share/phpapp/a.php, regardless
of symlinks.
Hmm. I _almost_ get it. You seem to be saying that internally PHP has
some kind of where the hell am I? function that returns the location
of the currently running script, rather than simply taking the file name
which you used to invoke the script (in the case of symlinks). That
seems counter-intuitive to me.
And the supplementary question is, how do I get the behaviour I'm after?
require_once($_SERVER[DOCUMENT_ROOT] . /config/phpapp.php);
That sounds like the simplest of the options so far.
Thanks to everybody who had a suggestion. They are all filed away for
future reference.
You may have more luck getting answers to PHP questions at syd::php
http://sydney.ug.php.net/
I've been trying to avoid considering myself a PHP programmer, feeling
that I ought, on some vaguely-defined moral grounds, to prefer the
original P language, which I have been forgetting and re-learning for
years now. But I'm a very reluctant and lazy programmer and damn it,
the dark side is easier and more seductive!
Matthew.
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[SLUG] GNOME slow startup
Hi all, I have a Debian unstable box at home. My main desktop is XFCE, but my wife uses GNOME. She's been complaining of slow startup times for ages, and I've only just got around to checking it out. (I never buy her flowers, either.) I try starting GNOME from gdm. The splash screen sits on Desktop Settings for about two minutes, then another two minutes or so on Window Manager, for a total of over five minutes before I get to my desktop (on an Athlon with 256MB of RAM). I'm assuming this is a gconf issue, mainly because gconf is alien and scary to me. My wife uses GNOME every day, and I use it once a week or so, but I'm usually out of the room while it's starting up, so I haven't noticed how ludicrous this problem has become. Create a new user account, and GNOME starts up too fast to measure. Anybody have any clues on where to start looking for the cause of this phenomenon? I would guess that since this machine has seen GNOME 2.2, 2.4, and now 2.6, that some garbage has accumulated in the config somewhere, but I have already resolved one GNOME problem recently by a mass deletion of dotfiles, and really don't find that a satisfactory solution. Purge-and-reinstall was a system tuning technique I thought I'd thrown out with my last proprietary OS. Matthew. -- 0419 242 316 ... (02) 6658 1607 -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. (Save as HTML or RTF) See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] madwifi for Debian
Hi, I'm trying to build driver modules for a NETGEAR WG311 WiFi card, according to the instructions at http://www.marlow.dk/tech/madwifi.php. Having been spoilt for many years by binary kernel packages, I have only a vague idea of what Im doing. I get to the point where I actually compile the modules thus: # make-kpkg --append-to-version -386 --revision 2.4.26-1 --added-modules madwifi modules_image and make seems to spit the dummy at this point: make -C /lib/modules/2.4.26-1-386/build SUBDIRS=/usr/src/modules/madwifi/ath_hal modules make: *** /lib/modules/2.4.26-1-386/build: No such file or directory. and indeed the file does not exist. I suspect the instructions are incomplete. You are told to configure the source tree, but at no time do you actually seem to do anything that would add this build file to /lib/modules/*/. Can anyone fill in the gaps for me? Thanks, Matthew. -- 0419 242 316 ... (02) 6658 1607 -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. (Save as HTML or RTF) See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] madwifi for Debian
Tony Green wrote: On 09/07/2004, at 7:32 PM, Matthew Davidson wrote: make -C /lib/modules/2.4.26-1-386/build SUBDIRS=/usr/src/modules/madwifi/ath_hal modules make: *** /lib/modules/2.4.26-1-386/build: No such file or directory. and indeed the file does not exist. Symlink your kernel source tree to /lib/modules/2.4.26-1-386/build (/usr/src/linux-2.4.26?) Thank you. That did the trick. I am now communicating with the outside world thanks to the magic of toxic radiation. Having blundered into buying a card at random and suffering the consequences, I am now ready to ask the question I should have asked some time ago. Can anybody recommend a good card that won't taint my kernel with non-kosher code? Matthew. -- 0419 242 316 ... (02) 6658 1607 -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. (Save as HTML or RTF) See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] LDAP address book?
I'm looking for the Right Way to go about maintaining a shared contacts database/address book. The little scraps of paper I'm currently using work fine for me, but they're not easy for others to access, and are a bit embarrasing for smeone who's supposed to be a tech guru. Recalling a SLUG talk from a few years ago about LDAP, I thought here's the very thing. A day of cursing and growling later, I'm not so sure. Most of the tutorials on this subject are based on the premise that you're creating your own database and front-end from scratch, rather than a database that existing apps can use (I'm principally concerned about Thunderbird here). There are a few LDAP-based apps that claim to use Netscape-compatible address books, but all of those I've tried are so flaky that they don't generate anything but error messages. Has anybody else tried this with any success? Any tools/resources been especially useful? Matthew. -- 0419 242 316 ... (02) 6658 1607 -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. (Save as HTML or RTF) See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Mangled console - One of life's mysteries
The 'reset' command should work. Matthew. David wrote: I have a Debian woody box run in console mode only. While I was logged into another woody box, I did: #cat mystery.file The mystery file turned out to be a word .doc Subsequently, my prompt and anything going to the screen has turned into gibberish. Even after logging out of the other box I'm still getting gibberish at the prompt, and can't get rid of the gibberish on that console, although the others all work fine. I was going to cut and paste it here, but instead of what i actually see on the screen, I get the mangled console message reproduced below. Is there any way to restart that console and get it back? Does anyone know what might have happened? Thanks.. David. -- 0419 242 316 ... (02) 6658 1607 -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. (Save as HTML or RTF) See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] GNOME panel segfaulting
Jeff Waugh wrote: quote who=Matthew Davidson 'Application gnome-panel (process ) has crashed due to a fatal error (segmentation fault)' It should provide a button to report a bug - that will give you a really simple UI to get a gdb backtrace and report it. If you want, I can take a quick look at the backtrace independently of your bug report. It's been added as Bug 144511. Not very detailed, I'm afraid. I had to use the web interface, as I don't have sendmail or another MTA installed on this system. Backtrace attached. If you're not at all fussed about losing configuration temporarily, you might want to run a recursive unset on all the panel settings, like this: gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/panel Try that, let us know how it goes. :-) No luck. Matthew. -- 0419 242 316 ... (02) 6658 1607 -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html From: Matthew Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: bug-buddy 2.4.2 Subject: gnome-panel crashes on login Distribution: Debian testing/unstable Package: gnome-panel Severity: normal Version: GNOME2.4.1 2.4.x Gnome-Distributor: Debian Synopsis: gnome-panel crashes on login Bugzilla-Product: gnome-panel Bugzilla-Component: Panel Bugzilla-Version: 2.4.x BugBuddy-GnomeVersion: 2.0 (2.4.0.1) Description: Description of the crash: Gnome-panel segfaults on login. On closing the panel, it starts up again and immediately segfaults. User has no idea what caused it, and claims not to have changed the panel configuration in any way. Steps to reproduce the crash: Only happens for one user, who can't give any account of what was done to cause it. Expected Results: How often does this happen? Every time gnome-panel starts. Additional Information: Debugging Information: Backtrace was generated from '/usr/bin/gnome-panel' (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...[New Thread 16384 (LWP 1773)] (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...0x4095abd8 in waitpid () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 #0 0x4095abd8 in waitpid () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 #1 0x400cba94 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0 #2 0x40091884 in libgnomeui_module_info_get () from /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0 #3 0x40959815 in __pthread_sighandler () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 #4 signal handler called #5 0x40aaab5f in strlen () from /lib/libc.so.6 #6 0xb728 in ?? () Thread 1 (Thread 16384 (LWP 1773)): #0 0x4095abd8 in waitpid () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 No symbol table info available. #1 0x400cba94 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0 No symbol table info available. #2 0x40091884 in libgnomeui_module_info_get () from /usr/lib/libgnomeui-2.so.0 No symbol table info available. #3 0x40959815 in __pthread_sighandler () from /lib/libpthread.so.0 No symbol table
[SLUG] GNOME panel segfaulting
Hi, A user (not all users) is getting the following error on starting GNOME (2.4 on Debian unstable - not updated for a month or so): 'Application gnome-panel (process ) has crashed due to a fatal error (segmentation fault)' The top panel is blank except for the window menu. The bottom panel works fine. Clicking close on the error message causes the gnome-panel to restart, whereupon it segfaults again. Since this is only happening to one user (who hasn't customised anything to any great degree), I tried deleting the contents of .gnome*, but the problem keeps recurring. I'm assuming that this is caused by a screwed-up config file for that user, and would have thought this would be sitting in that user's home directory; where else could GNOME be keeping it? Or what am I missing? Matthew. -- 0419 242 316 ... (02) 6658 1607 -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Upcoming battle for the web?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another quote: The web is used to provide a variety of services and communities. Part of the Longhorn strategy is to extract from the web all of the services with any profit model at all: web magazines, auction sites, news, online retailers, and so on. When Microsoft tempts these organizations and communities to Longhorn, the web suffers the death of a thousand cuts. Over here will be the standards-based web, with a gradually shrinking set of web sites. Over there will be the future Longhorn-based proprietary global infrastructure--a global version of the early Novell NetWare, a sort of stock market/CNN fusion for content delivery. For Microsoft, the best possible outcome is for the standards-based web to be reduced to the profitless: a few idealistic hippies, some idle perverts, and the disaffected. Few others will want to go there; so every day there will be fewer traditional websites, every day less relevance. If this is true, it represents a return to the cluelessness of the 1995 pre-turning of the battleship era for Microsoft. Sorry for sounding like an old browser war veteran here, but I remember the days when magazines wrote about the next big thing: the Microsoft Network. People are going to want online services, and they're not going to go to the Internet, are they? That's for geeks. No, we normal people will get everything we need straight from Microsoft. A couple of months later, the hastily revised MSN is no longer a separate, vastly superior network for normal people, but just another website. Yes, Microsoft would like the web to be a one-way pipe from their servers to your eyeballs, but look at where the compelling apps that run on top of the web have come from. By this I mean the compelling apps for the rest of the world, not just geeks; file-sharing, instant messaging, etc. They haven't come from Microsoft; they don't want you to share, they want you to buy; they don't want you to talk to your friends, they want you to talk to Microsoft. And the next big thing on the web will come from the stereotypical two guys running a proprietary software company out of their garage, or from the free software community, because Microsoft doesn't innovate, it takes what others have done, locks it down, and strips all the value out of it. Microsoft won't buy the web by perverting web standards. Netscape tried that when they were in a position of dominance, and it didn't work. However, they might buy the web through rights management and security. What Microsoft will do by perverting web standards is keep the office. Imagine an organisation that keeps all it's documents as XHTML (or whatever markup language is appropriate for the document type) and CSS instead of .doc format. All of that information available for context-rich indexing, and instantly formatted appropriately for web/print/audio/whatever. No vendor lock-in. No license fees. No forced upgrades. Plug it all into whatever kind of application you might want to devise. Microsoft are afraid of the same thing they were afraid of in the 90's: the middleware threat, which has the potential to hurt them in the only areas of their business that make money; the OS and Office. If they have any sense, they won't be chasing web services, they'll be gunning for XUL and any other open technology that threatens their core business. Matthew. -- 0419 242 316 ... (02) 6658 1607 -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Regional Users' Group
Thanks very much for all the suggestions. Special thanks to Glen, David, and Horst, who will be hearing from me again soon. [Cue theme from Jaws] Matthew. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Regional Users' Group
Hi, I've just moved out of Sydney to a regional area (Coffs Harbour), where there is no even remotely local (ooh, what a fab oxymoron) LUG that I can find. There seems to have been one some years ago which has presumably withered and died, leaving no trace beyond 404 errors and bouncing emails. So I have no alternative but to start one myself. Perhaps this discussion belongs on slug-chat (to which I am not subscribed), but I'd welcome any suggestions about how to go about this, or offers of assistance. I've read the LUG HOWTO, and various other resources on the web, so Australian-specific advice would be particularly helpful. One thing that occurred to me is that it might be better to set up a free software users' group, rather than a Linux one, as that will include all the users of openoffice.org, Mozilla, the GIMP, etc., on other platforms (plus the odd *BSD user) and maybe entice them along to an installfest. I can't imagine the number of existing GNU/Linux users is all that huge here, and one of the principle purposes of the group would be to change that. There are a couple of existing computer (ie. MS-Windows) users' groups here, a seniors club, and one connected to the local RSL. I've been to a meeting of the latter, and the members are as keen as mustard on both the philosphical angle and the technical side, but they do not speak terribly highly of the level of support they get from the RSL, and the consensus is that there's nothing really to be gained by operating as a SIG of that group. Any advice/assistance/personal abuse gratefully accepted. Matthew Davidson. Coffs Habour Area Free Software Users' Groups (CHAFSUG - yuck!) Coffs Harbour Area Free Software And Linux Users' Group (CHAFSALUG - hmm.) Free, Libre, and Open Source Software In Coffs Harbour (FLOSSICH - next!) ... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Multi-function thingummies
Hi, Just setting up a home office, and was looking at these newfangled all-in -one printer/scanner/copier things. Tried googling and linuxprinting.org for advice on a couple of model numbers I'd collected, but found no mention. Are these things to avoid, or can anybody recommend a model that actually works with CUPS/SANE? Matthew. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] CUPS problem
Hi, I've installed CUPS on a Debian (sid) system. Printed a test page fine from the local system, and from a windows client via samba. I have also installed cupsys-bsd. Then I tried my first bit of proper printing, from SciTE, a text editor I'm quite fond of. First it complained that it was missing a2ps, which I obligingly installed, then it complained it was missing Netscape. Now I'm as accommodating as the next person, but some things are simply beyond the pale, so I decided I'd use another editor for printing. However, by that stage the printer had already started spitting out gibberish. I cancelled that job, killed all vestigial processes, and tried printing from another app. Same gibberish. Tried printing the CUPS test page. No better. Upped the debug level in cupsd.conf, not a whisper of complaint, as I tried again and again. Rebooted. Deleted and recreated the printer. Purged and reinstalled CUPS. No improvement. It's the exact same gibberish every time, beginning @PJN ENTEZ NANOUAOE?PKN; then a page feed, then short bursts of non alphanumeric junk that seems more or less random among loads of page feeds. Doesn't look at all like mangled postscript commands or anything. I've a vague feeling I've come across this before, and the solution is to delete a particular file, but I can't for the life of me come up with the right Google incantation to summon the solution. Any ideas most welcome. Matthew. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Dosemu/Freedos and parallel port dongle
Thanks to all who had suggestions. I should have been a bit more precise in my original post. The parallel port dongle is not for copy-protecting the software, it's for ensuring the devices that the software is designed to configure aren't tampered with by unauthorised persons. I have been running dosemu as root. There are no hardware problems, as I'm dual-booting, and the software works fine under win98. Subsequent investigation uncovered a feature for detecting a parallel port dongle in the software I'm trying to run, and it does detect the dongle under dosemu, but still no communication. So the problem does seem to be, as one clever chap suggested, with the serial port. At this point, I'm again stuck. The PC is an IBM 300PL, and doesn't seem to have anything particularly unusual about it. The IRQ and IO settings for the serial ports can be configured in the bios, and are on the standard settings. It is a plug-and-play bios, but the Plug and Play OS parameter is set to no. setserial /dev/ttyS0 returns the expected result; no error messages. I tried configuring dosemu for low-level hardware access to the serial port, as recommended for the parallel port, with no joy. I've not seen any mention on Google of people having to do this with the serial port, but no harm in trying. I had an (unused) internal modem in the PC, which I ripped out in case it was causing a conflict, but no improvement. I have to admit to being nearly completely ignorant of how serial ports work. Anybody have any clue what may be going wrong, or how to isolate the problem? Thanks, Matthew. Matthew Davidson wrote: Hi, I'm trying to get a DOS app that requires a parallel port dongle to work with Debian unstable, and am hoping someone on the list has some experience with this. It's an in-house app that has very little documentation to speak of, so I'm in the dark somewhat on that side of things. The app wil run, so there's no problem with dosemu/freedos per se (and I've got it running old games at home with no problem), but it doesn't work. It's supposed to talk to other machines via the serial port which I have configured in dosemu.conf like so: $_com1 = /dev/ttyS0 but the application just can't see them, I'm presuming because it's not recognising the dongle on the parallel port, which I have configured thus: $_ports = device /dev/lp0 fast range 0x378 0x37a $_irqpassing = 7 Some old, old usenet postings say you should disable the lp kernel module, which I had assumed the device bit above now obviates, but I tried it anyway to no avail. I am using Linux 2.4.25. Would be grateful for any ideas, I am a master at overlooking the obvious. Matthew. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Dosemu/Freedos and parralel port dongle
Hi, I'm trying to get a DOS app that requires a parallel port dongle to work with Debian unstable, and am hoping someone on the list has some experience with this. It's an in-house app that has very little documentation to speak of, so I'm in the dark somewhat on that side of things. The app wil run, so there's no problem with dosemu/freedos per se (and I've got it running old games at home with no problem), but it doesn't work. It's supposed to talk to other machines via the serial port which I have configured in dosemu.conf like so: $_com1 = /dev/ttyS0 but the application just can't see them, I'm presuming because it's not recognising the dongle on the parallel port, which I have configured thus: $_ports = device /dev/lp0 fast range 0x378 0x37a $_irqpassing = 7 Some old, old usenet postings say you should disable the lp kernel module, which I had assumed the device bit above now obviates, but I tried it anyway to no avail. I am using Linux 2.4.25. Would be grateful for any ideas, I am a master at overlooking the obvious. Matthew. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] A valid analogy.
Mike MacCana wrote: On Sun, 14 Mar 2004, Richard Neal wrote: GPLG GPLGPLGP GPLGPLGPLGP GPLGP GPL MICROSOFT GPLGP GPLGPLGPLGP GPLGPLGPL GPLGPL No offence, but your sig is retarded ;^). I don't know about that, but it's certainly a bit inscrutable. I can only interpret it as an ASCII homage to Pac-Man. If that is the intention, I don't see how you can achieve the desired effect without going completely OTT thus: | S || F| | || | | || | | C || U| | || | | || | | O || D| __| || |_ GPLGPL GPLGPL GPL M I C R O S O F T GPLGPL GPLGPL P L A Y E R : G N U S C O R E : 1 9 8 3 2 1 H I G H S C O R E ! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Freedom and Alternatives
On Thu, Dec 11, 2003 at 04:36:51PM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote: Here's a question I've been asking a lot of people recently. Which do you care *more* about: a) An alternative to Windows If Windows was free software, I'd probably recommend it to people for use in fairly limited circumstances. If security and reliability aren't an issue; if you don't want to do much with your computer; if you have some odd hardware. It's a good gaming platform. b) Access to source code It's important that good hackers have access to the source code. Personally I find any non-trivial coding as pleasant as a trip to the dentist. c) The ideal of continuing software freedom I first read the preamble to the GPL in the mid 90's (yes, I'm a newbie). It remains probably the most inspiring document I've ever read. At the time I was despairing of ever finding anything worthwhile to do with my life, and just couldn't see how it was possible to pursue any vocation in an ethical manner. Now I'm a few months away from taking the plunge and committing to working with free software as my principle means of income. If we were still in the dark ages of having to break the law, fiddle about with copy protection hacks and shared registry keys just to get our computers to work, it's very likely that I wouldn't even own a computer. I agree with Larry Lessig that Richard Stallman is the most influential philosopher of our age. Insert a sentence using any or all of the phrases paradigm shift, disruptive technology, and tipping point here. Assuming we can overcome all the DMCA/DRM silliness, it's conceivable that the industry of monopoly ownership of intellectual property (which honest economists disparagingly call rent-seeking) will collapse, and a thousand industries based around the free sharing of ideas will spring up. How mind-blowingly cool is it that you can make an honest living out of sharing, and being a member of a community? I care not a jot about that component of my operating system called Linux, and hardly at all about making better software using an open development methodology. The freedom is everything. All the other good stuff is a conseqence of the freedom. To paraphrase an irritating ad campaign: * Money saved by buying a computer without proprietary software : One thousand dollars. * Cost of having someone burn you a Debian CD set : Ten dollars. * Freedom : Priceless. Matthew. -- 0419 242 316 ... (02)9763 7923 ... http://www.sneaker.net.au/~mdavids -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Internet training software
On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 11:46:14AM +1100, Terry Collins wrote: Does anyone have any leads on open source, interactive, internet training software, with security and results database? I've been meaning to check out moodle (http://moodle.org) for some time, but haven't got around to it yet, so I can't say how good it is. Matthew. -- 0419 242 316 ... (02)9763 7923 ... http://www.sneaker.net.au/~mdavids -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] good cd burning software?
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 11:35:21PM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What it doesn't understand is that if the file is *.iso, it should do whole image not treat it as a normal file. Right-click on the .iso, and you should have a burn option in the menu. Damn Nautilus. My CLI skills are atrophying! Matthew. -- 0419 242 316 ... (02)9763 7923 ... http://www.sneaker.net.au/~mdavids -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Online banking
On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 04:56:19PM +1100, Benno wrote: I was wondering what peoples current experiences with online banking is. I'm currently successfully using commonwealth netbank, and ingdirect however for various reasons I am currently looking at other alternatives. So what other banks have netbanking that works with linux browsers? Can't pass up an opportunity to plug Mozilla/Firebird. I'm with a credit union that uses http://www.netteller.org. It uses JavaScript browser sniffing that can be circumvented with the User Agent Switcher extension to Firebird and Mozilla: http://chrispederick.myacen.com/work/firebird/useragentswitcher/ I've been using it for a while with no noticeable problems. I also sent a politely-worded complaint about the practice of coding for browsers rather than standards, for all the good it will do. Matthew. -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Cups/Ghostscript problem
Hi, I'm setting up a Debian (testing) box, with a Lexmark printer. I know Lexmark has a bad reputation where supporting the free software community is concerned, but I know this printer has worked, as it's been taken from somebody else's Red Hat machine. I've installed CUPS, and set up the printer (using the web interface, to my shame). Whenever I try to print anything, the job is aborted. The logs suggest that it's a problem with ghostscript: D [08/Nov/2003:06:12:26 +1100] [Job 27] ESP Ghostscript 7.05.6: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1 D [08/Nov/2003:06:12:26 +1100] [Job 27] renderer return value: 127 D [08/Nov/2003:06:12:26 +1100] [Job 27] renderer received signal: 127 D [08/Nov/2003:06:12:26 +1100] [Job 27] Process dieing with The renderer command line returned an unrecognized error code 127., exit stat: 1 I've tried this with both GNU Ghostscript and ESP Ghostscript, with the same result. The closest I can find on Google is someone who was missing the gsfonts package, but it's there on this machine. I'm out of ideas. Can anybody think of anything I'm missing? Matthew.` -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] anti-propietry info
A couple of obvious ones: What are web standards and why should I use them? http://www.webstandards.org/learn/faq/ We Can Put an End to Word Attachments http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Matthew. (And never underestimate the power of a nag .signature:) -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Gnome menus
Hi, I'm trying to customise Gnome menus for all users on a system. If I've read the documentation correctly, it should just be a matter of opening applications-all-users:/// in Nautilus (as root), and dropping .desktop files wherever I want them. Then when a user logs in, the changes should be evident. Unfortunately they're not. I'm running Debian unstable with Gnome 2.2.2. The idea is to customise the applications menu to be as minimal and newbie-friendly as possible, since everything else can still be had through the Debian menu. The changes I'm attempting seem to be reflected in the vfolders files; they just have no practical effect. I'm a bit perplexed. I've succeeded in creating a new folder within the applications menu, but no matter how many .desktop files I drop in there, it remains empty (when looking at the menu itself - viewed through Nautilus everything is as it should be). I must be overlooking something very obvious. Matthew. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] apt-proxy and tcpd
Hi, I'm trying to set up apt-proxy, and am getting interminable 'connection refused' errors. Normally this would be because of incorrectly configured tcp wrappers. My hosts allow looks pretty much like this: ALL: .my.network.name # And for good measure: apt-proxy: 192.168.0. And my hosts.deny is blank. When I run 'tcpdmatch apt-proxy holly.hys.lan' I get: client: hostname server.my.network.name client: address 192.168.0.9 server: process apt-proxy matched: /etc/hosts.allow line 14 access: granted Now this would suggest that everything on the tcpd side of things is correctly configured, and the problem is something to do with the configuration, but as I understand it, this would result in tcpd putting an error message inmons.log whenever I try to use apt, but there is nothing there. I have tried both a hand-rolled sources.list and apt-proxy.conf, and files generated by the bundled apt-proxy-mkconfig script to no avail. Any suggestions gratefully appreciated. Matthew. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] LTSP NFS problem
Hi, I'm setting up a little LTSP network at the moment, and have run into an infuriating problem. At the moment, I have only the server and one useable client. The server is brand new, and the client is a 486 with a 3c509 NIC that has been successfully used as an LTSP client in the past. DHCP, TFTP, works okay. NFS appears to work okay; server:/opt/ltsp/i386 is mounted, then while attempting the 'pivot_root', the client complains that the server is not responding, and dies with the dreaded 'Task XX can't get a request slot' error. As the client machine has worked quite happily before with another server, I'm assuming (perhaps wrongly) that I've misconfigured something on the server. It appears to be a trivial and obvious NFS issue that I'm overlooking. Any ideas? Thanks, Matthew. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [Debian-au] Re: [SLUG] Debian SIG Location..
On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 02:46:21 +1000 Anand Kumria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, on the presumption that people are interested in continuing at a bar (preferably with pool tables) then either the CBD, the Grace hotel or even the Forbes may be suitable. The problem that all three venues have -- is that there is no enclosed, private area like there is at the WBH. I've had someone mention that the Edinburgh Castle may be worth a look though. Despite all the negatives listed above, the best thing about the WBH is the (two) private areas where you can hold a meeting. The Crown Hotel on the corner of (I think) Elizabeth and Goulburn Streets has an upstairs bar that is usually closed and available for private functions; would fit perhaps a couple of dozen people. A friend of mine used to run a discussion group there, and if the venue wasn't free it would have been very, very cheap. If anyone is interested in doing a (educational) pub crawl around Sydney to find a suitable location, let me know. Ah, those educational pub crawls. I'm a martyr to my thirst for knowledge. Matthew Davidson. Chief Nerd of soon-to-be-defunct Parramatta Computer Access Network. http://www.cat.org.au/pcan -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Free content
On Thu, 2003-02-20 at 12:49, Jamie Lovick wrote: As part of building communtiy wireless networks, we want to ensure that the network has legal content. Since a network is nothing without content, I am looking for suggestions on what everything thinks should be readilly accessible on the network. Don't have much to suggest besides the obvious mirroring as much of ibiblio.org as your servers can handle. Are you familiar with http://www.creativecommons.org? You may find some sources of content through there. I am doing a lot of volunteer work at an arts centre at Parramatta, and am thinking of doing an evangelical presentation on publishing artistic works under Creative Commons licences. Also looking to find anybody else knowledgeable/ravingly zealous about free-as-in-speech self-publishing to participate in the discussion. Anybody? Matthew. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] 256-color-friendly gnome2?
Hi, I'm soon to attempt a small X-terminal installation (1 application server, 4 to 5 workstations), using old 486s as clients. I've become quite a fan of GNOME2, and would like to use it here, but most 486s I come across have are limited to 800x600x256, which causes some truly hideous color dithering. Does anyone know of a simple solution to this? Perhaps (wishful thinking) a colorsafe theme exists somewhere? Is there any reason in principle that would prevent me from adjusting all the pixmaps to use the same color palette (apart from the obvious one that it would be too much like hard work)? Matthew. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] OpenOffice.org
On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 08:37, Adam Hewitt wrote: I don't want to upgrade my (debian/woody) system to unstable to install openoffice.org, and keeping my system at stable but installing the unstable packages requires me to remove half of the packages I have installed before. So I have decided to install using the tarball from openoffice.org. Have you tried just adding: deb http://ftp.freenet.de/pub/ftp.vpn-junkies.de/openoffice/ woody main contrib to your sources.list? Personally, I'm finding the woody backports on http://www.apt-get.org a lot less of a headache that either running unstable, or a stable/unstable hybrid. I'm running OpenOffice, Gnome2, Mozilla 1.2.1 on a number of different woody PCs with no problems so far. Matthew. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] File Manager Holy Grail
Hi, I've scoured the net looking for this, and have yet to find anything acceptable. I need a file manager for non-geeks that fits the following criteria: - Looks and feels somewhat like Windows explorer - Does not have a ridiculous number of dependencies (which rules out anything built for GNOME or KDE) - Will run on a Pentium with 32Mb RAM (ditto) and preferably: - will mount/unmount removable media with a click or two - comes packaged as a .deb for Woody Have tried searching the usual places, and found a stack of apps that on closer inspection turn out to be v0.01, with 90% of the functionality residing on the todo list, and unmaintained since the late 90's. Does anybody have any happy real-world experiences in this area? Matthew. Parramatta Computer Access Network http://www.cat.org.au/pcan -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] kde dcopserver problem
Hi, Trying to get KDE running on woody. Can't get beyond an error message saying: Could not read network connection list /root/.DCOPserver_hostname_0 Please check the 'dcopserver' program is running.' Seen a lot of usenet postings and the like complaining of this problem, but no solutions. Can anybody suggest anything? Thanks, Matthew. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] VNC font problem
Hello, This is probably a trivially simple problem. I've installed vnc on a couple of Debian (Woody) boxes, and it works like a dream, except for displaying fonts in certain apps. I think it's limited to gtk apps, actually. I've tried to work around this by explicitly adding a font path to /etc/vnc.conf, and this makes no difference. I'm using the font dirs as listed in XF86Config-4. Is there another location where gtk looks for fonts, or is there some simpler solution? Matthew. http://www.cat.org.au/pcan/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Slug Meeting Notes 28 June 2002
Hello, Bit of confusion in the notes regarding the lineage of the Parramatta Computer Access Network. Although CAT has been helping us out, PCAN is a separate body, auspiced by Information and Cultural Exchange (ICE), a Parramatta-based community group. The shop (currently under the working title of The Hub Technology Arts Centre - no cool acronym readily available) is a joint project between PCAN, ICE, and Parramatta Council, as well as many other supporting organisations including Computerbank NSW, CAT, the Bower Reuse and Recycling Co-Op, etc. /pedantry The website is at http://www.cat.org.au/pcan/ and is well overdue for an update (of course). Matthew. Parramatta Computer Access Network. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Parramatta Computer Access Network
Hello, Been a while since I've spammed anybody, so for those who are interested, the Parramatta Computer Access Network (PCAN - http://www.cat.org.au/pcan) is having one of it's increasingly regular junkfest/meetings this Saturday: 11am-4pm Saturday 6th October, Dundas Area Neighbourhood Centre 21 Sturt St, Telopea, NSW, 2117. We now have a regular, adequately-sized venue, and a fair amount of hardware coming in. So far, we've been fixing up Windows boxes (*shudder*), but as the level of disorganisation falls to somewhere tolerable, we are now able to be a bit more daring. I've set up Debian on a PII, which I hope to get a bit more memory for, so that in future weeks it can be set up as an X application server, with a handful of 486 X-Terminals hanging off it, booting from floppies. If there's anybody with mad schemes that will work on old hardware, we've got the hardware, and would love to share in your insanity. Also we'll take your junk. Pentiums and over, plus any network cable (desperately needed), hubs, modems, drives, etc. If anybody's got a recent set of the 'unofficial' Woody CD's, that would be great as well. All in all, a pleasant way to avoid domestic work on a Saturday. BYO phillips-head. Matthew. -- Software should not have owners - http://www.gnu.org Use Debian GNU/Linux - http://www.debian.org -- Parramatta Computer Access Network (PCAN) - http://www.cat.org.au/pcan -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Religious Flamewar Required - authentication
On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 02:24:11PM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: Incidentally, how many PCAN tech bods have you got? Not many. I've been using Debian almost exclusively on my home LAN for a couple of years now, but I've got little real world experience. We've got the odd person with some specialist knowledge in this or that area, and some sluggers/CAT/computerbank people offering what advice and support they can in between other commitments. I'm based in W'gong, but I'm often in Sydney, and have played this game before (a place called Access Space in Sheffield, UK) and currently (sort of - we're playing with new hardware but I don't get paid). If you need an experienced warm body, let me know and I'll let you know when I'm in the area. Yes please! A little bit of experience would greatly enhance our current mix of gung-ho spirit and rank amateurism. Sign up to the mailing list via http://www.cat.org.au/pcan to find out when/where we're meeting next. Matthew. -- Industrial Workers of the World - http://www.iww.org -- Join the One Big Union! --- -- Software should not have owners - http://www.gnu.org Use Debian GNU/Linux - http://www.debian.org -- - Parramatta Computer Access Network (PCAN) -- - http://www.cat.org.au/pcan - -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Fw: Side issue about Sydney Linux User Group
RMS gave an entertaining speech last month: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/audio/audio.html#NYU2001 He was responding to the Mundie comments and so forth, giving the usual history of the GNU project, etc. I found his arguments for calling the system GNU/Linux quite compelling. On the other hand, SLUG would lose it's snappy acronym and mascot if it were SGLUG. How about a compromise? Everybody who uses GNU/Linux by definition uses Linux, so SLUG is still a technically correct name. However I suggest (audaciously, as a non-member) that SLUG adopt a policy of when referring to the kernel the term Linux is used, otherwise GNU/Linux, particularly in public forums, publicity material, etc. It's only a little bit of care and effort to give credit where it's due, and put the philosophical issues front and centre. It's frustrating seeing the recent tidal wave of mainstream press coverage of Linux, but not a word about free software (Not to mention hearing things like Oh, Linux - that shareware thing?). I don't mean to provoke or perpetuate a tedious old flamewar, just haven't heard this suggestion from anybody else and thought it might be an acceptable compromise. Meekly, Matthew. -- Industrial Workers of the World - http://www.iww.org -- Join the One Big Union! --- -- Software should not have owners - http://www.gnu.org Use Debian GNU/Linux - http://www.debian.org -- - Parramatta Computer Access Network (PCAN) -- - http://www.cat.org.au/pcan - -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Linux-G: Making Linux Hip Again
From the Keep Linux APolitical (KLAP) group (Don't flame me, I'm just the messenger): It has come to our attention that a good many people have been using Linux in a way that departs from it's charming and photogenic creator's original intention to make a kick-ass terminal emulator. We are horrified to find that a group based in Cambridge, Massachusetts has even built an operating system around it, with the nauseatingly soppy, touchy-feely intention of performing some sort of social good. As obedient, hardworking, certified professionals I'm sure you recognise how ludicrously inapprporiate it is to use software in this manner. In an effort to minimise the harm that could come from this we are asking all groups who promote Linux to make the following small concessions: In all communications, stress that Linux is an academic curiosity, not part of a replacement for proprietary operating systems. When using Linux to run other software, be careful about naming conventions: ie. you're not playing Quake, or Quake-on-Linux, you are playing Linux. Distance yourself from 'political' software that often comes bundled with Linux distributions. Be careful not to use ls, cat, bash, etc. We are sure that these minimal efforts will go a great way towards dealing with those who would cheapen and distort Linus' inspiring and powerful philosophy of... erm... On Tue, Jun 26, 2001 at 09:36:28PM +1000, Nicholas FitzRoy-Dale wrote: Dear SLUG list, You have recently recieved an email forwarded from Mr. Richard Stallman, founder of the GNU project and worthy of great respect for the amount of time he spent making Linux possible when he wasn't rewriting proprietary printer drivers. The email in question brought to light an issue that appears to be an increasingly common theme among communications from Mr. Stallman: it requested that SLUG members refer to GNU/Linux instead of just Linux. There was apparently some opposition to this suggestion, based on the totally ridiculous and obviously narrow-minded idea that to request that distributions change their names for the benefit of his organisation, which was certainly not the only one that made Linux possible, is actually incredibly rude. Sadly, totally ridiculous and narrow-minded people appear to be the norm, which means that to many people, Mr. Stallman's Web page on the topic appears outlandish and silly, the rantings of a crazed zealot, rather than the polite, understanding communications that we, as a community, have come to expect from the Free Software Foundation. With this in mind, and at jdub's urging, I have decided on a compromise. Brace yourselves: the name I am proposing just might BLOW YOU AWAY. Linux-G. That name again? Linux-G. Not only do we appease the ravenous maw of the GNU project (in the same way that they appease the omniscient creators of Unix by defining themselves as not being it), we also appeal to fans of rap music. In da house! (As you may have gathered, I rarely listen to rap music.) In keeping with another great Free Software tradition - themes - I would like to propose a number of other nomenclative changes: * Coders shall now be known as Homies; * the Sydney Linux Users' Group shall be renamed The hood; * Any communication between members of the Linux community and the Free Software Foundation shall be referred to as Rappin' wit' da yak man. Please take time to seriously consider this request. It's very important that we reinforce what everybody already knows about the GNU project in an inconvenient, public way. -- Nicholas FitzRoy-Dale http://www.lardcave.net PS: Please direct all replies to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am not on the SLUG list. I was going to have a look at Evolution, because I hear that's getting better all the time... - Cate -- Industrial Workers of the World - http://www.iww.org -- Join the One Big Union! --- -- Software should not have owners - http://www.gnu.org Use Debian GNU/Linux - http://www.debian.org -- - Parramatta Computer Access Network (PCAN) -- - http://www.cat.org.au/pcan - -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Religious Flamewar Required - authentication
Hello, As PCAN (http://www.cat.org.au/pcan) is finally leaving the vapourware stage, I'm starting to have to think about the practicalities of setting up a digital access centre, and about doing things the Right Way(TM). I'm reading up about NIS and LDAP, but does anybody have any practical experiences / irrational prejudices they'd like to share about the various distributed authentication options? Some constraints are: - support for multiple platforms (GNU/Linux, Windows, MacOS) - beer-free speech-free Thanks, Matthew. -- Industrial Workers of the World - http://www.iww.org -- Join the One Big Union! --- -- Software should not have owners - http://www.gnu.org Use Debian GNU/Linux - http://www.debian.org -- - Parramatta Computer Access Network (PCAN) -- - http://www.cat.org.au/pcan - -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Next PCAN Meeting
Hello, PCAN is holding it's next meeting tomorrow. Exciting project, sharing skills, putting GNU/Linux to use, reusing old hardware, yada, yada, yada. This is the last (admittedly slightly OT) posting about PCAN I'll make to this list, just to catch anybody who might have missed the last one, so no need to flame me about spamming. Anybody interested in keeping track of this project, send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED], or keep an eye on the website. -- Meeting of Parramatta Computer Access Network (PCAN) 2:00pm Saturday 23 June Parramatta City Library (Near Parramatta Railway Station) (Meeting will probably be held in space behind study room 1. Up stairs, turn left. Otherwise, ask at enquiries desk.) At our last meeting we resolved to find potential hosts for our first access centre. This meeting we shall be choosing between the candidates, and setting priorities for getting up and running. Please come along if you can donate time or know-how, or even if you're just curious. PCAN (pronounced pecan) is a collaborative effort between community organisations, volunteers, and local government in the Parramatta area. It exists to provide access to computer technology; supply services, support, and skill sharing; promote and facilitate computer hardware re-use; and encourage the growth of employment opportunities within the community. See http://www.cat.org.au/pcan for more details. --- Matthew. -- Industrial Workers of the World - http://www.iww.org -- Join the One Big Union! --- -- Software should not have owners - http://www.gnu.org Use Debian GNU/Linux - http://www.debian.org -- - Parramatta Computer Access Network (PCAN) -- - http://www.cat.org.au/pcan - -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] IT Action in Western Sydney
Have no fear. Nobody's going to be chanting, burning effigies, or selling you radical newspapers. For the record, my motivation for involvement comes from my more or less libertarian socialist philosophy (I hasten to add that I don't have a single body piercing and steer well clear of student radicals - no offence to any on the list), but the group itself is quite definitely mainstream. It needs some government funding to get started, so it's got to be! The project's being sold to various levels of government on the basis of creating employment opportunities. I understand Parramatta Council, like probably every council in Sydney, has hopes of coaxing IT companies to set up shop in the area. Of course it's pointless to do that if all it means is that people are going to commute from North Ryde to work in their new location. To do the people of Parramatta any good, they've got to have access to the technology and be familiar with it, so they can get their hands on all those emminently desirable, comfortable, highly paid jobs in the booming IT sector [stifles a bitter, mirthless laugh]. So that's kind of an economic rationalist justification for the project. All part maximising the benefits of luring big money from the North Shore and CBD. A saner reason (in my view) for involvement is basically that there's a need for co-ordinated IT services to the people of the area (big business isn't interested in people who don't have much money for some reason), there's plenty of second hand equipment floating about, at least some people who have the expertise to do something with it, and many more who want to learn. So basically the community has the means to fulfil it's own needs. Initially that will be on a shoestring budget with mostly volunteer labour, but it's intended that down the track we'll be able to spin off enterprises of various kinds that will enable people to make a living out of it. Also you get to do cool stuff with free software and tons of hardware to play with. All things considered, it's pretty pragmatic, and I think no matter what your political or philosophical point of view there's a reason to get involved. Matthew. On Tue, May 29, 2001 at 10:52:10AM +1000, Jon Austin wrote: I will be there- I work fairly close to the Library. What is the purpose of the group? I don't want to attend if it is going to be a socialist m1/s11 rally type thing. =) Regards, Jon Austin - Original Message - From: Matthew Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ben Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 12:28 AM Subject: Re: [SLUG] IT Action in Western Sydney On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 03:01:57PM +1000, ben Young wrote: So where abouts is the meeting and when? 2pm, 9th July, Parramatta City Library I wouldn't worry about inexperience. For every person we have that knows something, we need at least one who wants to learn what the other knows. My god. I've just read that back, and I sound like a hippie! Matthew. -- Industrial Workers of the World - http://www.iww.org -- Join the One Big Union! --- -- Software should not have owners - http://www.gnu.org Use Debian GNU/Linux - http://www.debian.org -- - Parramatta Computer Access Network (PCAN) -- - http://www.cat.org.au/pcan - -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- -- Industrial Workers of the World - http://www.iww.org -- Join the One Big Union! --- -- Software should not have owners - http://www.gnu.org Use Debian GNU/Linux - http://www.debian.org -- - Parramatta Computer Access Network (PCAN) -- - http://www.cat.org.au/pcan - -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] IT Action in Western Sydney
On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 03:01:57PM +1000, ben Young wrote: So where abouts is the meeting and when? 2pm, 9th July, Parramatta City Library I wouldn't worry about inexperience. For every person we have that knows something, we need at least one who wants to learn what the other knows. My god. I've just read that back, and I sound like a hippie! Matthew. -- Industrial Workers of the World - http://www.iww.org -- Join the One Big Union! --- -- Software should not have owners - http://www.gnu.org Use Debian GNU/Linux - http://www.debian.org -- - Parramatta Computer Access Network (PCAN) -- - http://www.cat.org.au/pcan - -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] IT Action in Western Sydney
Hello, I hope nobody considers this spam. This is a really exciting project just getting off the ground in western Sydney: - Forwarded message from ICE [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Dear All, please come along to this important meeting of P-CAN (Parramatta Computer Access Network). 2pm June 9th (at Room 1, Parramatta City Library nr Parra Train Station) P-CAN exists to provide access to computer technology; supply services, support, and skill sharing; promote and facilitate computer hardware re-use; and encourage the growth of employment opportunities within the community. What can you do with P-CAN: ? participate in a computer reuse program (cheap computers!) ? learn and share computer skills (hardware, software GNU/Linux) ? make a real difference to the digital divide in western sydney. P-CAN (Parramatta Computer Access and Action Network) is a collaborative effort between community organisations, volunteers, and local government in the Parramatta area. WE NEED YOU! Contact Dave or Matthew to RSVP or find out more about P-CANs activities: CALL 9683 2173 Or email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cat.org.au/pcan - End forwarded message - Obviously this is a major opportunity for getting free software out in the community. The range of the project is incredibly broad, so there will have to be some concessions made to proprietary software, but I think we can keep that down to a minimum. Certainly on the recycled hardware side of things, I've had Sawfish/Gnome/Mozilla0.8 running quite comfortably on a low-end pentium - on the same machine that was painful to use under NT4 (never mind Win2k or Me), so GNU/Linux is going to be a necessity rather than a luxury in a lot of cases. Personally I'm overwhelmed by the possibilities that even my feeble mind can envisage: Diskless net-stations, sick and twisted experiments at clustering 486's, etc But (he says, wiping the drool from the side of his mouth and donning a halo), what it's really all about is the health of the local community. When it comes to getting a fence mended, some minor plumbing done, or whatever, you'll find that most people know somebody who knows somebody. On the other hand, when somebody wants to find out what this Internet thing is all about, cure their recurring BSOD woes, etc., the other somebody is frequently missing. PCAN is an effort to link together all the somebodies, mentor apprentice somebodies, and down the track generate ways for these somebodies to make a living doing useful things with their skills. I like to think of it as expanding the idea of free software into free work. If you think you might be able to contribute in even the most minimal way, please come along to the meeting on the 9th. Matthew. -- Industrial Workers of the World - http://www.iww.org -- Join the One Big Union! --- -- Software should not have owners - http://www.gnu.org Use Debian GNU/Linux - http://www.debian.org -- - Parramatta Computer Access Network (PCAN) -- - http://www.cat.org.au/pcan - -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Mac OS, basiliskii
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 10:17:19AM +1000, Nick Croft wrote: Has any of the sluggers who retain an interest in the mac os managed to get basiliskii working, to emulate 68k macs up to 8.1 (iirc)? I got BasiliskII running using the 7.5.3 OS downloaded from apple's website. I have a perverse fascination with emulators, and this had me giggling with delight for hours. Got Netscape, and even Wolfenstein3D running quite acceptably on a PII. One thing I never managed to get working was the "sheepnet" network drivers, rendering it pretty much useless. Anybody works out how to do this, I'd be grateful for a mini-HOWTO. It requires something called ethertap, which I noticed as an "experimental" option in some 2.2 kernels, but can't find it in 2.4. You need getROM, which is not distributed with basiliskii. And to use getROM you have to own a 68k mac. I found a pre-emptive backup copy (the backup you have before aquire a master copy) circulating on the net. They're not hard to find. If I ever get around to getting the network drivers to work, I might pick up a broken Mac from the Sally Army for $5 to make it legal. Intellectual property is absurd. I'd like to get this to work fully so I can tutor some people who have to use Macs at work, without having another box taking up space in my already cluttered lair. To that end, has anybody played with Darwin on i386? Matthew. - Industrial Workers of the World - (x350 253 / 00-1502) -- Join the One Big Union! -- http://www.iww.org --- - Software should not have owners -- http://www.gnu.org --- - Use Debian GNU/Linux -- - http://www.debian.org - - -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Zope
Hello, I'm looking at various platforms for developing web apps, primarily a slashdot/K5 style community site, with associated services. I've a perverse desire to hand-roll all this in perl, but given time constraints, and a niggling concern for people who may have to maintain it after me (you can tell I'm not a _real_ programmer), something off-the shelf may be the best option. I've been looking at Zope. It has an admin interface that looks simple enough for even an MCSE to manage, supports a whole bundle of databases (not just MySQL, like Slash and Scoop) and although it's written in python the latest version supports scripting in perl. I was wondering if anybody had any experience, or knowledge of any problems I should be aware of before committing myself. Thanks, Matthew. - Industrial Workers of the World - (x350 253 / 00-1502) -- Join the One Big Union! -- http://www.iww.org --- - Software should not have owners -- http://www.gnu.org --- - Use Debian GNU/Linux -- - http://www.debian.org - - -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] GNU Co-operative in Sydney?
[From long-time lurker, infrequent poster:] A posting on kuro5hin has triggered various fevered imaginings in my unstable mind: http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=displaystorysid=2001/2/21/19441/2905 It's a followup story on Spindl3top, the GNU co-operative in Cambridge, Mass. A comment I posted (http://www.kuro5hin.org/?op=commentssid=2001/2/21/19441/2905cid=6#6), really just a shameless plug for my union (Join the IWW! It's great!), got me wondering... Could we not have a GNU co-operative in Sydney? It so happens that I'm involved in a couple of things that could act as a springboard to get this going. The way I see it is slightly different to the setup at Spindl3top. Basically if the business is structured as a worker-run co-op, we avoid a lot of the overheads involved in a for-profit business (as well as generating a nice, warm, fuzzy feeling among subversives like me). Unlike Spindl3top, who can count on enough people affording shiny new hardware for their free software systems, we can source the hardware from the tons of pentiums corporations are now flinging out, and subsequently find a lot more people who can afford our systems and associated services. The big uncertainty is are enough people interested in getting involved? So if you're unemployed, a student needing real-world experience, burnt out, or otherwise fed up, and (crucially) don't need wheelbarrows full of cash eash week to survive, please read the K5 posting for more details and get back to me if you're interested. Here's hoping I've caught some people during a particularly bad day at the office. Matthew. - Industrial Workers of the World - (x350 253 / 00-1502) -- Join the One Big Union! -- http://www.iww.org --- - Software should not have owners -- http://www.gnu.org --- - Use Debian GNU/Linux -- - http://www.debian.org - - -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Scanjet 5p
Hello, Has anybody had any happy experiences with the HP Scanjet 5p? I'm ashamed to admit I've been lazy, and had mine set up to run from a legacy OS on a dual-boot machine. Unfortunately, the drive I was running this OS from died in a distressingly noisy manner (probably because 99.9% of the time I was booting to GNU/Linux on another physical drive, and the drive wasn't accustomed to reading much further than the MBR), and I'm now paying the price for initially deciding to take the convenient way out. The scanner runs off the Symbios 53c416 SCSI card. If the scanner is turned off, isapnp recognises this card and I can load the sym53c416 module, and everything is suffused with the warm glow of peace, love, and understanding. However, if the scanner is turned on, it appears to generate some bad vibes, and everything starts getting really heavy with messages like "IO range check attempted while device activated" (isapnp), and "unrecoverable SCSI bus or device hang" (insmod sym53c416), and the whole scene becomes a real bummer, man. Now I understand that this could be a PNP Bios issue. I have an oldish Award Bios with PNP support that doesn't seem to be able to be turned off completely. You can however manually assign each IRQ to either "PNP/PCI" or "Legacy ISA". Assigning all IRQs to "Legacy ISA" makes no difference as far as I can see, except crippling my PCI Ethernet card. Any suggestions gratefully received. Matthew. - Free software: http://www.gnu.org Free work: http://www.iww.org -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
