Re: [SLUG] PowerPoint Analogue.
Sorry for the slow reply.. Well I like kile because it offers many of the features of emacs without all the keyboard kludge, and gets you started on the project fast with pre-formated forms etc (not saying you cant do the same with emacs its just emacs isn't for "me") and kile is very visual the way it works with LaTEX code. On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 11:46, Alan L Tyree wrote: > On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 11:05, Richard Neal wrote: > > I use Kile for LaTEX > > > > http://kile.sourceforge.net/ > > > > cool thing about LaTEX (and docbook) is you have a text source code file > > unlike Power Point. So the document is pretty much future proofed form > > the ever varying standards for Power Point. > > Richard, > How does Kile compare with Lyx? > > I use LaTeX a lot, but with emacs + Auctex + Reftex. And agree about > having future proofing against arbitrary changes in proprietary formats! > I have had good luck with Prosper for slide presentations. > > Cheers, > Alan > > > -- > -- > Alan L Tyree > http://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan > Tel: +61 2 4782 2670 > Mobile: +61 405 084 990 > Fax: +61 2 4782 7092 -- GPLG GPLGPLGP GPLGPLGPLGP GPLGP GPL MICROSOFT GPLGP GPLGPLGPLGP GPLGPLGPL GPLGPL Richard Neal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] PowerPoint Analogue.
> "Matthew" == Matthew Wlazlo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Matthew> ** On Fri Mar 19, 2004 at 06:14:25PM +1100, Bill Bennett Matthew> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> I'd like to like to teach myself to make a presentation. >> >> People who know no better have suggested PowerPoint. I always use latex and seminar style, together with either acroread or pspresent. In the past I've also written raw HTML and used netscape. Peter C -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] PowerPoint Analogue.
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004, Ken Foskey wrote: > On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 23:04, Mike MacCana wrote: > > > For bonus cool points, use Openoffice 1.1 and distribute your presentation > > in Flash. > > 1.1.1 rc3 has just been released. A few more bug fixes. Just been > updated in Debian unstable. > > If you must use a non-free platform then I would recommend PDF rather > than flash. More people use it (ie acroread is installed) and the flash > export was a little buggy in the first release. 'Free' as in libre has many different definitions when it comes to file formats. Both PDF and Flash (sans the movie codecs) are publically documented. Most modern web browsers ship with flash included (including those that come with OSs these days). But thanks for your mail, Mike -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] PowerPoint Analogue.
On Mon, 2004-03-22 at 23:04, Mike MacCana wrote: > For bonus cool points, use Openoffice 1.1 and distribute your presentation > in Flash. 1.1.1 rc3 has just been released. A few more bug fixes. Just been updated in Debian unstable. If you must use a non-free platform then I would recommend PDF rather than flash. More people use it (ie acroread is installed) and the flash export was a little buggy in the first release. -- Thanks KenF OpenOffice.org developer -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] PowerPoint Analogue.
> On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 18:14, Bill Bennett wrote:
> > I'd like to like to teach myself to make a presentation.
> >
> > People who know no better have suggested PowerPoint.
> >
> > The list of analogues ^{*} has:---
> > 1) StarOffice Presentation
> > 2) Open Office Impress
> > Has anyone any experience with any of these?
> > That you can talk about?
They both work fine with the following exceptions
1) The included templated are really ugly
2) no, I mean *really/ ugly
Try grabbing some free powerpoint template files and using them in
OpenOffice (Google will fidn them for you). You'll end up with a much
better looking presentation as a result.
For bonus cool points, use Openoffice 1.1 and distribute your presentation
in Flash.
Mike
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Re: [SLUG] PowerPoint Analogue.
On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 18:14, Bill Bennett wrote:
> I'd like to like to teach myself to make a presentation.
>
> People who know no better have suggested PowerPoint.
>
> The list of analogues ^{*} has:---
> 1) StarOffice Presentation
> 2) Open Office Impress
> 3) Kpresenter
> 4) MagicPoint
> 5) Kuickshow & gimp :)
>
> (I do not know the significance of (5).
>
> Has anyone any experience with any of these?
> That you can talk about?
Have used StarOffice and OpenOffice products. They work the same and are
easy to use (almost intuitive). I used to create my presentations in
StarOffice and convert them to Powerpoint to use on windoze boxes.
Just jump in and try to create a simple presentation in Impress, then
use the Help to add the bells and whistles. It took me about 10 minutes
to teach a group of 25 11 and 12 year olds to make reasonable
presentations. You will have no problems.
Stay well and happy
Heracles
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Re: [SLUG] PowerPoint Analogue.
On Sun, 2004-03-21 at 11:05, Richard Neal wrote: > I use Kile for LaTEX > > http://kile.sourceforge.net/ > > cool thing about LaTEX (and docbook) is you have a text source code file > unlike Power Point. So the document is pretty much future proofed form > the ever varying standards for Power Point. Richard, How does Kile compare with Lyx? I use LaTeX a lot, but with emacs + Auctex + Reftex. And agree about having future proofing against arbitrary changes in proprietary formats! I have had good luck with Prosper for slide presentations. Cheers, Alan -- -- Alan L Tyree http://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan Tel: +61 2 4782 2670 Mobile: +61 405 084 990 Fax: +61 2 4782 7092 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] PowerPoint Analogue.
I use Kile for LaTEX
http://kile.sourceforge.net/
cool thing about LaTEX (and docbook) is you have a text source code file
unlike Power Point. So the document is pretty much future proofed form
the ever varying standards for Power Point.
On Sat, 2004-03-20 at 10:56, Benno wrote:
> On Fri Mar 19, 2004 at 18:14:25 +1100, Bill Bennett wrote:
> >I'd like to like to teach myself to make a presentation.
> >
> >People who know no better have suggested PowerPoint.
> >
> >The list of analogues ^{*} has:---
> >1) StarOffice Presentation
> >2) Open Office Impress
> >3) Kpresenter
> >4) MagicPoint
> >5) Kuickshow & gimp :)
> >
> >(I do not know the significance of (5).
> >
> >Has anyone any experience with any of these?
> >That you can talk about?
>
> 6) The many latex presentation things:
>1/ Prosper
>2/ Chaksem
>
> 7) Tools for viewing postscript/pdf presentations:
>1/ Pspresent
>2/ glpresent
>3/ xpdf
>4/ acroread
>
> Using latex is good beause you get good looking fonts, can reuse stuff
> you have put in papers, get great maths typesetting.
>
>
> Benno
>
>
> (Too lazy to get urls for now)
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Re: [SLUG] PowerPoint Analogue.
On Fri Mar 19, 2004 at 18:14:25 +1100, Bill Bennett wrote:
>I'd like to like to teach myself to make a presentation.
>
>People who know no better have suggested PowerPoint.
>
>The list of analogues ^{*} has:---
>1) StarOffice Presentation
>2) Open Office Impress
>3) Kpresenter
>4) MagicPoint
>5) Kuickshow & gimp :)
>
>(I do not know the significance of (5).
>
>Has anyone any experience with any of these?
>That you can talk about?
6) The many latex presentation things:
1/ Prosper
2/ Chaksem
7) Tools for viewing postscript/pdf presentations:
1/ Pspresent
2/ glpresent
3/ xpdf
4/ acroread
Using latex is good beause you get good looking fonts, can reuse stuff
you have put in papers, get great maths typesetting.
Benno
(Too lazy to get urls for now)
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Re: [SLUG] PowerPoint Analogue.
> wasn't there a recent study on how power point and all programs like it > often miss represent the data that is been shown, or shows data in a poor > often miss interpreted way. And the misrepresentation of the data is so > severe in many cases (think he quotes a NASA engineering presentation that > totally missed a major flaw) that the true facts are totally lost so as to > fit within the format of power points layout. If you write a bad essay, your audience may misinterpret your message. If you give a bad presentation, your audience may misinterpret your message. Most people are not trained to write essays and give presentations, so you have to expect some misfires. Similarly, I am not trained to drive a fire truck. Reply-To set to chat. - Jeff -- GVADEC 2004: Kristiansand, Norwayhttp://2004.guadec.org/ What do you get when you cross a web server and a hen? Apoache. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] PowerPoint Analogue.
Hai
wasn't there a recent study on how power point and all programs like it
often miss represent the data that is been shown, or shows data in a
poor often miss interpreted way. And the misrepresentation of the data
is so severe in many cases (think he quotes a NASA engineering
presentation that totally missed a major flaw) that the true facts are
totally lost so as to fit within the format of power points layout.
Think it was on www.slashdot.org late last year.
On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 18:14, Bill Bennett wrote:
> I'd like to like to teach myself to make a presentation.
>
> People who know no better have suggested PowerPoint.
>
> The list of analogues ^{*} has:---
> 1) StarOffice Presentation
> 2) Open Office Impress
> 3) Kpresenter
> 4) MagicPoint
> 5) Kuickshow & gimp :)
>
> (I do not know the significance of (5).
>
> Has anyone any experience with any of these?
> That you can talk about?
>
> Regards,
>
> Bill Bennett.
>
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Re: [SLUG] PowerPoint Analogue.
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004, Bill Bennett wrote:
> The list of analogues ^{*} has:---
> 1) StarOffice Presentation
> 2) Open Office Impress
> 3) Kpresenter
> 4) MagicPoint
> 5) Kuickshow & gimp :)
Have a look at http://www.shallowsky.com/linux/LinuxPresentations.html
for some more suggestions.
-Mary
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Re: [SLUG] PowerPoint Analogue.
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 06:14:25PM +1100, Bill Bennett wrote:
> I'd like to like to teach myself to make a presentation.
>
> The list of analogues ^{*} has:---
> 1) StarOffice Presentation
> 2) Open Office Impress
> 3) Kpresenter
> 4) MagicPoint
> 5) Kuickshow & gimp :)
>
> (I do not know the significance of (5).
>
> Has anyone any experience with any of these?
6) LaTeX and Prosper. Works like a charm. Basic slide sets can be produced
as fast as you can type. More complex effects are a bit of simple
programming away. As far as I'm concerned, waving your mouse around to do
simple things like "I want another bullet point" is an incredible waste of
energy, when you can type \item and go on your way.
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Re: [SLUG] PowerPoint Analogue.
** On Fri Mar 19, 2004 at 06:14:25PM +1100, Bill Bennett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I'd like to like to teach myself to make a presentation.
>
> People who know no better have suggested PowerPoint.
>
> The list of analogues ^{*} has:---
> 1) StarOffice Presentation
> 2) Open Office Impress
> 3) Kpresenter
> 4) MagicPoint
> 5) Kuickshow & gimp :)
There's also:
6) mozpoint (http://mozpoint.mozdev.org/)
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[SLUG] PowerPoint Analogue.
I'd like to like to teach myself to make a presentation.
People who know no better have suggested PowerPoint.
The list of analogues ^{*} has:---
1) StarOffice Presentation
2) Open Office Impress
3) Kpresenter
4) MagicPoint
5) Kuickshow & gimp :)
(I do not know the significance of (5).
Has anyone any experience with any of these?
That you can talk about?
Regards,
Bill Bennett.
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