[RCSE] molded toys for sale

2002-06-18 Thread Eric Farmer

Hi guys,

Due to some recent family monetary need issues, I've gotta get rid of some
of my toys help pay off some debts.

1) NIB Image 2m.  White/Purple.  Has very slight hangar rash on rudder and
fuselage... nothing structural.  Pics can be seen at
http://www.ericfarmer.com/image.html
Asking $550 shipped COD.

2) Eraser 2000/F3B.  Glass skins, Yellow/Blue.  Near perfect airframe with
the exception of a well used center panel (ding in the LE and a few
wrinkles, but nothing structural) and some very small cracks around the wing
saddle.  Comes with 6 MPX servos (4 Mc/V2 in wing, 2 analog in fuse) and a 5
cell 600mah pack.  $600 shipped COD.

3) Cobra Calypso F3B.  Well used, White/Red.  All carbon skins... stiff
stiff stiff.  You know the airplane, I don't have to explain it.  Been flown
a lot, I'm the third owner.  Has a few field repairs done to it, but still
pretty from 15 feet away.  Comes with 6 JR341s installed, Hitec Supreme 8ch
Rx (Futaba flavor, no crystal), and 800mah pack.  Also have tools and
ballast that will come with it.  Asking $650 shipped COD.

4) Raptor Poly DLG.  Delam in left wing, root panel.  Easy fix.  The balsa
tail is a little beat, but would be easy to fix, and probably easier to just
replace.  Has two HS50s installed and a 270mah NiMh battery.  $150.  Would
like to sell locally in SoCal as I don't want to cut the wing to ship.  I'll
be at the SWSA Sc2 on the 30th.

If interested, please e-mail me off the list.  Thanks for the bandwidth.

Regards,
Eric Farmer
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Re: [RCSE] Spring Fling Map?

2002-06-18 Thread Dudley Dufort

David, sorry the club web site is down.  We're in the process of changing hosts and we 
got cut off by the former.  Our field is
pretty easy to find.  It's located in the People's Republic of  Davis, CA.  We're 3.8 
miles south of interstate 80 on Mace Blvd.
Tremont Road intersects Mace Blvd. at the entrance to the field.  Just look for our 
sign.  Easiest way to get there is to take
Interstate 80 through Davis and look for the Mace Blvd. exit then head south.  Dudley

David Nasatir wrote:

 I would be grateful for driving directions from the SF East Bay to the
 SVSS Spring Fling ... or a map.

 Thanks.

 (the other) Dave in Berkeley, CA

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RE: [RCSE] Thanks for everyones help

2002-06-18 Thread Gary S. Baldwin

0.03936996 of an inch.

Gary Baldwin
Tallahassee, Florida

 What's 1 mm anyway.

Happy thermals,   Rick BothellOn vacation for one week with no planes
and no work shop.


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RE: [RCSE] IESC RESULTS

2002-06-18 Thread Tom Copp

First  I will add my thanks to the club for a good weekend and for the guts
to fly man on man. Great job guys!!!  BTW. Thanks for the ass whipping
Manny!

Man on man flying is defiantly the way to go. Everyone I talked to liked the
idea and had a few suggestions (listed below) The IESC flying site has some
very tough air, if you zigged when you should have zagged you found yourself
at 1/2 launch height in short time.. The contest used retrievers and 4
winches for 5 man groups, sometimes the last guy in the group launched 1 1/2
to 2 minutes behind the first guy and the professional sandbaggers took full
advantage of it.  When the air is that fickle 1 minute is enough time to
figure out who NOT to follow. Short line were not a problem but you did need
a good launch set up.

The contest was defiantly biased towards soaring with a max of 5 landing
points possible.

The contest was also a triathlon scoring thrown in for fun. The first round
was a 3 minute bell curve straight up.

What I heard for suggestions:
* Landing points could be higher but more importantly define a tighter
landing area. If you don't define a landing area then guys are landing all
over the place from all directions. At this contest inside the 1/4 mile
track would be a good landing area. Outside the landing area would receive
no points. It would be safer and more controlled.
* Drop the triathlon, go with all 10 minute man on man flights.
* More winches, the retrievers worked and pilots were launched as soon as
possible with the manpower available. Without retrievers you can get the
group up faster but you also need more help shagging lines. If you have the
space between winches then retrievers are a good idea. At our field we can't
spread out wide enough to keep the bow from the retriever line out of the
next pilots way so you need to wait for the retriever to tighten the line
before the next pilot can launch. Worse in a cross wind.

At HSS we will put some of these suggestion into play so if your July 7th
Sunday is open come on out.

Tom Copp
COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES
www.f3x.com
949-645-7032

 -Original Message-
From:   Daryl Perkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Tuesday, June 18, 2002 7:07 AM
To: John Erickson; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Soaring List
Subject:Re: [RCSE] IESC RESULTS

Was there much of guys chasing the leader around
the field, or did
everyone try to find their own air?  If it's at all
like the IHLGF, I'm
always surprised how little poaching actually takes
place.  You have
less
time to decide in hand launch, and 25' can make a big
difference, but I
would think that with good launches there would be the
opportunity to
just
try and cover the leader.

The launch lines were quite short, and the winches
easily stalled - not much launch height. The air was
brutal - light disorganized lift with BIG sink. I was
not instantly comfortable on any of my flights.
(Except the 3) There was a bit of herd mentality, but
if you wanted to make your times, you needed to break
away from the pack. I think only the top 3 made all
their times - and Cohn turned an 8 minute on a 10
minute task into a 1,000. (So actually only 2 of the
top 3 made their times)

I was trying to figure out if this would have been the
case had the contest NOT been held man on man. I think
many more people would have made their times had it
been held in a normal contest format. There would
have been planes in the air to read and cover. Or to
read and go the other way.

The contest definitely emphasized soaring skills - it
was more fun than the typical steer and stabs we
normally fly in.

Thanks again to ISS for trying something new - it was
a hoot!

D

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Re: [RCSE] IESC RESULTS

2002-06-18 Thread David Zucker

Man on man flying is defiantly the way to go.

This may be true more than you suspect :-)

David
- Original Message -
From: Tom Copp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Soaring List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 8:12 AM
Subject: RE: [RCSE] IESC RESULTS


 First  I will add my thanks to the club for a good weekend and for the
guts
 to fly man on man. Great job guys!!!  BTW. Thanks for the ass whipping
 Manny!

 Man on man flying is defiantly the way to go. Everyone I talked to liked
the
 idea and had a few suggestions (listed below) The IESC flying site has
some
 very tough air, if you zigged when you should have zagged you found
yourself
 at 1/2 launch height in short time.. The contest used retrievers and 4
 winches for 5 man groups, sometimes the last guy in the group launched 1
1/2
 to 2 minutes behind the first guy and the professional sandbaggers took
full
 advantage of it.  When the air is that fickle 1 minute is enough time to
 figure out who NOT to follow. Short line were not a problem but you did
need
 a good launch set up.

 The contest was defiantly biased towards soaring with a max of 5 landing
 points possible.

 The contest was also a triathlon scoring thrown in for fun. The first
round
 was a 3 minute bell curve straight up.

 What I heard for suggestions:
 * Landing points could be higher but more importantly define a tighter
 landing area. If you don't define a landing area then guys are landing all
 over the place from all directions. At this contest inside the 1/4 mile
 track would be a good landing area. Outside the landing area would receive
 no points. It would be safer and more controlled.
 * Drop the triathlon, go with all 10 minute man on man flights.
 * More winches, the retrievers worked and pilots were launched as soon as
 possible with the manpower available. Without retrievers you can get the
 group up faster but you also need more help shagging lines. If you have
the
 space between winches then retrievers are a good idea. At our field we
can't
 spread out wide enough to keep the bow from the retriever line out of the
 next pilots way so you need to wait for the retriever to tighten the line
 before the next pilot can launch. Worse in a cross wind.

 At HSS we will put some of these suggestion into play so if your July 7th
 Sunday is open come on out.

 Tom Copp
 COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES
 www.f3x.com
 949-645-7032

  -Original Message-
 From: Daryl Perkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 7:07 AM
 To: John Erickson; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Soaring List
 Subject: Re: [RCSE] IESC RESULTS

 Was there much of guys chasing the leader around
 the field, or did
 everyone try to find their own air?  If it's at all
 like the IHLGF, I'm
 always surprised how little poaching actually takes
 place.  You have
 less
 time to decide in hand launch, and 25' can make a big
 difference, but I
 would think that with good launches there would be the
 opportunity to
 just
 try and cover the leader.

 The launch lines were quite short, and the winches
 easily stalled - not much launch height. The air was
 brutal - light disorganized lift with BIG sink. I was
 not instantly comfortable on any of my flights.
 (Except the 3) There was a bit of herd mentality, but
 if you wanted to make your times, you needed to break
 away from the pack. I think only the top 3 made all
 their times - and Cohn turned an 8 minute on a 10
 minute task into a 1,000. (So actually only 2 of the
 top 3 made their times)

 I was trying to figure out if this would have been the
 case had the contest NOT been held man on man. I think
 many more people would have made their times had it
 been held in a normal contest format. There would
 have been planes in the air to read and cover. Or to
 read and go the other way.

 The contest definitely emphasized soaring skills - it
 was more fun than the typical steer and stabs we
 normally fly in.

 Thanks again to ISS for trying something new - it was
 a hoot!

 D

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Re: [RCSE] HS 85 MG - straight from the horses mouth

2002-06-18 Thread CrashK

Could someone confirm the dimensions for the HS-5125?
This is what is listed on Hitec's website.
1.2x 0.4x 1.3   30 x 10 x 34 mm
I need to know the dimensions without the mounting tabs.  Also, how do they
compare to the DS-368s in terms of gear train slop or lack of?

Thanks!

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Re: [RCSE] IESC RESULTS

2002-06-18 Thread Dan

Looks like things are gettin' kinda hot in Bakersfield :-)

Dan
--- David Zucker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Man on man flying is defiantly the way to go.
 
 This may be true more than you suspect :-)
 
 David
 - Original Message -
 From: Tom Copp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'Soaring List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 8:12 AM
 Subject: RE: [RCSE] IESC RESULTS
 
 
  First  I will add my thanks to the club for a good weekend and for
 the
 guts
  to fly man on man. Great job guys!!!  BTW. Thanks for the ass
 whipping
  Manny!
 
  Man on man flying is defiantly the way to go. Everyone I talked to
 liked
 the
  idea and had a few suggestions (listed below) The IESC flying site
 has
 some
  very tough air, if you zigged when you should have zagged you found
 yourself
  at 1/2 launch height in short time.. The contest used retrievers
 and 4
  winches for 5 man groups, sometimes the last guy in the group
 launched 1
 1/2
  to 2 minutes behind the first guy and the professional sandbaggers
 took
 full
  advantage of it.  When the air is that fickle 1 minute is enough
 time to
  figure out who NOT to follow. Short line were not a problem but you
 did
 need
  a good launch set up.
 
  The contest was defiantly biased towards soaring with a max of 5
 landing
  points possible.
 
  The contest was also a triathlon scoring thrown in for fun. The
 first
 round
  was a 3 minute bell curve straight up.
 
  What I heard for suggestions:
  * Landing points could be higher but more importantly define a
 tighter
  landing area. If you don't define a landing area then guys are
 landing all
  over the place from all directions. At this contest inside the 1/4
 mile
  track would be a good landing area. Outside the landing area would
 receive
  no points. It would be safer and more controlled.
  * Drop the triathlon, go with all 10 minute man on man flights.
  * More winches, the retrievers worked and pilots were launched as
 soon as
  possible with the manpower available. Without retrievers you can
 get the
  group up faster but you also need more help shagging lines. If you
 have
 the
  space between winches then retrievers are a good idea. At our field
 we
 can't
  spread out wide enough to keep the bow from the retriever line out
 of the
  next pilots way so you need to wait for the retriever to tighten
 the line
  before the next pilot can launch. Worse in a cross wind.
 
  At HSS we will put some of these suggestion into play so if your
 July 7th
  Sunday is open come on out.
 
  Tom Copp
  COMPOSITE SPECIALTIES
  www.f3x.com
  949-645-7032
 
   -Original Message-
  From: Daryl Perkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 7:07 AM
  To: John Erickson; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Soaring List
  Subject: Re: [RCSE] IESC RESULTS
 
  Was there much of guys chasing the leader around
  the field, or did
  everyone try to find their own air?  If it's at all
  like the IHLGF, I'm
  always surprised how little poaching actually takes
  place.  You have
  less
  time to decide in hand launch, and 25' can make a big
  difference, but I
  would think that with good launches there would be the
  opportunity to
  just
  try and cover the leader.
 
  The launch lines were quite short, and the winches
  easily stalled - not much launch height. The air was
  brutal - light disorganized lift with BIG sink. I was
  not instantly comfortable on any of my flights.
  (Except the 3) There was a bit of herd mentality, but
  if you wanted to make your times, you needed to break
  away from the pack. I think only the top 3 made all
  their times - and Cohn turned an 8 minute on a 10
  minute task into a 1,000. (So actually only 2 of the
  top 3 made their times)
 
  I was trying to figure out if this would have been the
  case had the contest NOT been held man on man. I think
  many more people would have made their times had it
  been held in a normal contest format. There would
  have been planes in the air to read and cover. Or to
  read and go the other way.
 
  The contest definitely emphasized soaring skills - it
  was more fun than the typical steer and stabs we
  normally fly in.
 
  Thanks again to ISS for trying something new - it was
  a hoot!
 
  D
 
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Re: [RCSE] HS 85 MG - straight from the horses mouth

2002-06-18 Thread Ben Diss

About equal in slop to the 368.  They're both very tight.  I measured 33.7x30x10.3mm 
without the tabs and 39.9x42x10.3mm with tabs.  Add 6.7mm for the height of the arm 
(to the tip of the screw).

-Ben

CrashK wrote:
 
 Could someone confirm the dimensions for the HS-5125?
 This is what is listed on Hitec's website.
 1.2x 0.4x 1.3   30 x 10 x 34 mm
 I need to know the dimensions without the mounting tabs.  Also, how do they
 compare to the DS-368s in terms of gear train slop or lack of?
 
 Thanks!
 
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[RCSE] SVSS Spring Fling

2002-06-18 Thread Cheryl Jim



Anyone that has entered the SVSS Spring Fling and has not received 
confirmation please contact Cheryl or Jim at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or 530 
662-7268.


[RCSE] For Sale

2002-06-18 Thread tomfski

Stylus. Transmitter only.  No cards.  CH 29. Sent in this past winter 
for a check up just to make sure everything OK.Have flown it about 5 
times since. About 2 years old. Excellent shape.  $275.00 + ship.
Contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]  or  770-889-3507
Tom

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[RCSE] Davenport MOM July 6

2002-06-18 Thread jmrjj

We have enough pilots to hold the race, the turn out is around a dozen
pilots, so there will be plenty of flying for all.  The best spectator
glider event, Man On Man Unlimited pylon racing.  The race will be held at
Davenport California at the Big Creek lumber company site.
http://sloperacing.com/isr2002.htm#directions  Pilots meeting will be at
9:00 am, the race will start when the conditions allow.  The last heat will
start before 5:00 P.M., followed by the fly offs if there are any ties.  We
will fly as many rounds as possible, with no through outs.


I will e-mail the pilots and helpers individually over the next few days.
If you have questions e-mail me Jim Jacobson

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[RCSE] Module swap?

2002-06-18 Thread ronrweaver

I've got a ch58 module for a Stylus Tx, and I'm wondering if anyone has a ch52 module 
they'd like to trade for it?  The 58 module is 2 years old, but has never been used 
and is in pristine condition.  Any takers?

Ron Weaver
Buffalo Grove, IL USA

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to console him for what he is. - Francis Bacon
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[RCSE] HS-5125 specs

2002-06-18 Thread Steve Meyer

There is a very good specification sheet with drawing on their site.

Here is the PDF document.  http://www.hitecrcd.com/Servos/hs5125.pdf


At 01:01 PM 6/18/2002 -1000, CrashK wrote:
Could someone confirm the dimensions for the HS-5125?
This is what is listed on Hitec's website.
1.2x 0.4x 1.3   30 x 10 x 34 mm
I need to know the dimensions without the mounting tabs.  Also, how do they
compare to the DS-368s in terms of gear train slop or lack of?

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Re: [RCSE] HS-5125 specs

2002-06-18 Thread Brett Jaffee

I've been trying to decide between the 5125 and the JR DS368 for a flap servo.  The JR 
shows a torque rating slightly higher then the the Hitec's 6v torque rating.  Does 
anyone know whether JR's torque specs are measured at 4.8 or 6v?

Steve Meyer wrote:
 
 There is a very good specification sheet with drawing on their site.
 
 Here is the PDF document.  http://www.hitecrcd.com/Servos/hs5125.pdf
 
 At 01:01 PM 6/18/2002 -1000, CrashK wrote:
 Could someone confirm the dimensions for the HS-5125?
 This is what is listed on Hitec's website.
 1.2x 0.4x 1.3   30 x 10 x 34 mm
 I need to know the dimensions without the mounting tabs.  Also, how do they
 compare to the DS-368s in terms of gear train slop or lack of?
 
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[RCSE] need Tragi tail

2002-06-18 Thread D Hauch/ D Unruh

Anyone have a v-tail lying around they would sell?
Thanks,
dh

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Re: [RCSE] IESC,cover the leader

2002-06-18 Thread Supervkid
In a message dated 6/17/02 7:59:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Was there much of guys "chasing the leader" around the field, or did
everyone try to find their own air? If it's at all like the IHLGF, I'm
always surprised how little "poaching" actually takes place. You have less
time to decide in hand launch, and 25' can make a big difference, but I
would think that with good launches there would be the opportunity to just
try and cover the leader.


My name is Vince and I was the CD for the contest.
People were launching in groups of 5 and total time was about 35 to 40 secs. to get the group up.
Planes went left and right searching unless they all flew into a thermal off tow.
So in my opinion they was no chasing the leader.