[RCSE] Re:Winch Line
Bruce - I've bought a lot of winch line over a long time span from Memphis Net and Twine. There have been a couple times over the years that I've gotten a bad batch of line. It's rare, but it does happen. You can usually spot a bad piece of line if you look and feel close. The bad line I have gotten has had spots in it that had obviously been hot - you could feel and see the line had been melted a little bit here and there. If you can see this in a new spool of line call the company and let them know, they will probably take care of you. And be sure to check your equipment - a bad turnaround will do the same thing. I've also managed to string the turnaround upside down, that will eat line in a hurry. happy trails - Rob G From: "Bruce Hobbs" [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Myself and our club have purchased 270-290# nylon braided line from Memphis Twine previously. We have experienced line breaks quite often on a smooth field within 3-6 months of the new line installation. This is without Icons and Sharons doing banzai launches! When I purchased my Rahm winch new, the line Mr. Rahm sent with the winch did not break more than once or twice within the first two years and was used more often then than now. I have heard that line available in some of the Scandinavian countries is more durable and lasts longer..possibly refined and improved from exposure to the extensive fishing industry that many of these countries have? If any of you know of a line that is better. reasonable priced..and available..I'd love to hear about it. JoJo..that is your neck of the woods if you are reading this. TIA!! BCNU Bruce Hobbs RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] New JR 10X for sale
Never used JR 10x transmitter. I'm keeping the case. $600 + shipping RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Sailplane parts for sale
Artemis left and right wing tips w/Air 141 servos installed Excellent condition $150 each Artemis V-tail Excellent condition, $50 Artemis Fuse Excellent condition, $200 Icon left and right wing tips. They have had LE repairs and are in primer. New are $340 each, $200 each Icon center section. Some minor LE repair and skin repair in front of the right flap, all in primer. New is $785, I'll take $500 for the center section or I'll sell the tips and center section for $800. There is/was NO spar damage! I'll paint the wings for a reasonable fee. All items are plus shipping. gv RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Hitec Digi Servo burn out! Again...
It's pretty odd that you've had failures of now four servos (I think) in the exact same servo pockets. It feels like more than a coincidence. I wouldn't put ANY servo in that airplane until I figured it out. Likely that whatever you put in there next will fail to. I personally would use heavier gauge wire and rebuild the wiring harness myself. -Ben Albert E. Wedworth wrote: Hi Ben I get my twisted wire 22 AWG from George Joy @ Peak Electronics. I use multiplex connectors. I use Unassembled Gold plated connectors from Custom Electronics. Jo Joy George's wife @ Peak Electronics. I cut off the factory plugs from the servos and solder direct to the harness. I never use a on /off switch. But if I do use a switch. I buy a Switch Jack from Dieter @ Shredair. I never had one of those fail ! So as you can see I build m own wiring harness. I never had a problem with the wiring harness I build in any of my planes. I just can't seem to spend money on something I can make.. I don't think it's the wiring harness. I think it's the servos them self. This is the first plane I ever used Digi servo in because I never thought I needed them.. But I figured Hay, "what the heck" I got this 5 meter Ship I should use good stuff in it. I have always used Volz servos in the past but with the difference between the dollar /euro there out of my price range now... I hate to say it But...I think Gordy is RIGHT when he tells us they use cheep brushes in our servo motors! I have never had such problems with any Non Digi servo out there . Cheers Al Albert E. Wedworth ( AL ) ERA Capshaw Realestate REALTOR- ASSOCIATE Cell 530-228-9445 Fax 530-343-1715 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] FS: Compulsion
I'm selling my Compulsion, reluctantly but its the right thing to do. It has a 123" SD7037 wing and is an absolute gem in the air! Included are all the servos and the battery pack. Add your RX and go fly. It has 2 JR321 servos for rudder and elevator, 2 JR 341's for ailerons and 2 JR DS 368 digitals for the flaps. Also include is the Rx pack and a Hoopes harness. Wings are plug in with no messing with any connections! I'lll send the heavy wing rod too that is used to balast the plane. It has a light aluminum wing rod for normal use. Now, this plane has been flow a lot. The fuze had some traditional stress cracking just ahead of the leading edge of the wing which I wrapped with strapping tape. Flight characteristics were never compromised. Here are some links to the full aircraft... http://www.mustangone.com/MyRCHanger/DaveCompulsion1.jpg http://www.mustangone.com/MyRCHanger/DaveCompulsion2.jpg http://www.mustangone.com/MyRCHanger/Dave_Compulsion1.jpg Here is a link showing the tape wrapping of the area I was talking about... http://www.mustangone.com/images/CompulsionForSale1.jpg New, and it is not, all this went for about $970. I am selling this for $500 shipped anywhere in the continental US. Thanks, Dave RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Adding side mounts to servos.
I'm toying with the idea of adding side mounts of 1/4" angle brass to servos for flat mounting to rails on a base. The question is. . .what is a suitable adhesive? One stuck on with instant CA came off too easily. I have one curing with Goop and another with Gorilla glue. Anyone have any other adhesive in mind that might bond brass to a servo case? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Bag the wing and have breakfast.
Les was so excited about his find that he had to call me. The way he describes things sometimes leaves me guessing. I wondered how he cooked those eggs in the pan that had epoxy in it. Finally, he made it clear that he had the epoxy in a plastic plate, not actually in the pan. When he writes, you have to look at the words in terms of his native Hungarian tongue. BTW, the written word "went" would be pronounced "vent" same as in German. Les really knows what he is talking about and makes up for any deficiences with his enthusiasm for passing on things he's learned. Way to go, Les! - Original Message - From: "Steve Richman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Laszlo Horvath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 1:37 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Bag the wing and have breakfast. Les...I be you find they really "stick to your ribs" now! From: Laszlo Horvath Date: Wed Mar 02 19:37:56 CST 2005 To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Bag the wing and have breakfast. I always have problem to keep epoxy at the right temperature. So I vent to Wall-Mart and looked around what can I use for my hobby. It just happened I was standing in the pots and pens isle. As I looked I see an electric pan for $19 bucks (West Bend). Right away somebody wispered in my ears that is the perfec solution to keep my epoxy warm! I shelled out the $19 bucks and driving home 80 miles per hour to try it out. At the lowest setting it is exactly 80 deg. The next morning I toke two eggs with me, and run down to my shop. Set up the cores, turn an the skillet, put in the plastic plate, mixed the epoxy, bagged the wing, and cocked my eggs for breakfast! ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Les RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. ?Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. ?Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] FS: Stratos fuze, stab & sleeves
I'm selling the TD fuselage for the Stratos SL TD sailplane. It has an X-Tail and the stab as well as fuze/stab sleeves are included. The elevator servo is a JR DS 368 digital. The rudder servo is a HS85MG. Also included is a 2000 mah NiMH Rx battery pack, the switch and charging harness and 2 uinstalled ballast tubes. Below are links to photos. The condition is almost perfect. There is a little scuffing under the nose from normal landings. This has NEVER been crashed or even landed hard. I am keeping the wing for use on my Stratos SLe fuselage. Items for sale... http://www.mustangone.com/images/StratosForSale1.jpg http://www.mustangone.com/images/StratosForSale2.jpg http://www.mustangone.com/images/StratosForSale3.jpg http://www.mustangone.com/images/StratosForSale4.jpg The RX shown is not included. Contacted Dieter at Shred Air and he quoted $275 for the fuze, $100 for the stab and $25 for the sleeves by special order. That's $400 list without including the servos and battery pack! $325 shipped anywhere in the continental US. Thanks, Dave RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Off Topic iPOD Question
Hi Guys, My teenage son and 10 year old daughter both have the fever to buy iPods and I was wondering if anyone could give me some pointers on what to look for and what to avoid. They are looking to spend $100-200 range. I have been looking on ebay and have seen many in that price range but I am not sure what is good deal and what is a dumb deal. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please reply off line so I do not get beat up too bad by the list police especially Gordy. See Ya, Pat McCleave Wichita KS RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Keeping Epoxy Warm
At 1:28 PM -0800 3/3/05, Bill Swingle wrote: The walmart electric skillet sounds like a good idea. However, I've found the epoxy takes a while to heat. It's more convenient to me if I can keep the epoxy warm all the time. My solution is to use a small icechest or cooler. The size that holds only about a six pack. Then I just put a little 4watt light bulb into the cooler. Presto, it's always warm and costs nearly nothing. Bill Swingle Janesville, CA I jsut stick mine in the microwave oven for about 1-2 seconds when I needed to use it and it is like water. How often you use the epxoy anyway? You are not going to wake up 3 am and want to use it asap. :-P Brian -- Brian Chan, An Electric Airplane Junkie @ San Mateo.Ca.USA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #5242
Another way is go to RCGroups and read the posts from that forum. The posts may come up later than via email but at least you won't contend with all the coding and stuff. Al Battad -Original Message- From: Kathy & Hank Gullett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 2:13 PM To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #5242 How can I eliminate all the double messages and symbolic messages. Just want to read the real text? Hank - Original Message - From: "Soaring" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 6:32 AM Subject: Soaring V1 #5242 > SoaringWed, 2 Mar 2005 Volume 1 : Number > 5242 > > In this issue: > >a beautiful ornithopter >wing bags >Re: [RCSE] Connector DLG >Re: [RCSE] Transmitters for sale > > > -- > > Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 23:08:01 -0800 > From: "Scobie Puchtler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "RCSE" > Subject: a beautiful ornithopter > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Wow. Check out this rather elegant ornithopter and in particular the > quality > of the craftsmanship and design: > > http://www.ornithopter.de/bilder2.htm > > > > Lift, > Scobie in Seattle > > -- > > Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 01:08:10 -0600 > From: "gloria mills" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Subject: wing bags > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > --===AVGMAIL-4225665A2C6E=== > Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; > boundary="=_NextPart_000_0010_01C51EC4.4D0E8E30" > > --=_NextPart_000_0010_01C51EC4.4D0E8E30 > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="=_NextPart_001_0011_01C51EC4.4D0E8E30" > > --=_NextPart_001_0011_01C51EC4.4D0E8E30 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Blankany good sources for quality sailplane wing bags? > thanks > > > --=_NextPart_001_0011_01C51EC4.4D0E8E30 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=Windows-1252 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > Blank > charset=3Dwindows-1252"> href=3D"file://C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft = > Shared\Stationery\"> > BODY { > MARGIN-TOP: 25px; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 25px; COLOR: #00; = > FONT-FAMILY: Arial, Helvetica > } > P.msoNormal { > MARGIN-TOP: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px; COLOR: #cc; = > FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica, "Times New Roman" > } > LI.msoNormal { > MARGIN-TOP: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px; COLOR: #cc; = > FONT-FAMILY: Helvetica, "Times New Roman" > } > > > > background=3Dcid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > any good sources for quality sailplane wing bags? > thanks > > > --=_NextPart_001_0011_01C51EC4.4D0E8E30-- > --=_NextPart_000_0010_01C51EC4.4D0E8E30 > Content-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: image/gif; name="Blank Bkgrd.gif" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > > R0lGODlhLQAtAID/APf39ywALQAtAEACcAxup8vtvxKQsFon6d02898pGkgiYoCm6sq2 > 7iqWcmzOsmeXeA7uPJd5CYdD2g9oPF58ygqz+XhCG9JpJGmlYrPXGlfr/Yo/VW45e7amp2tou/lW > xo/zX513z+Vt+1n/tiX2pxP4NUhy2FM4xtjIUQAAOw== > > --=_NextPart_000_0010_01C51EC4.4D0E8E30-- > --===AVGMAIL-4225665A2C6E=== > Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg=cert; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Description: "AVG certification" > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.2 - Release Date: 2/28/2005 > > --===AVGMAIL-4225665A2C6E===-- > > -- > > Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 09:44:14 +0200 (FLE Standard Time) > From: Arne Ansper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Simon Van Leeuwen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Soaring List > Subject: Re: [RCSE] Connector DLG > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Tue, 1 Mar 2005, Simon Van Leeuwen wrote: > >> accomplished with wire-to-board connector systems and similar breakaway >> headers that are 2mm spacing (Milli Grid); >> >> http://www.molex.com/customer.html?supplierPN=50394,51110:87089 > > They do not list the number of minimal guaranteed mating cycles there. Is > this parameter important at all? For all the wire-to-board connectors that > had this parameter listed it was from 25 to 50. > > regards, > Arne > > -- > > Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 06:05:57 -0500 > From: "TJB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Don Peters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Subject: Re: [RCSE] Transmitters for sale > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > $350 is a steal > Jay Decker was looking for an EVO > I have one synth module left for sale if anyone is interested. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > T&G Hobbies > 32 Mount View Dr > Afton, VA 22920 > > 540 943-3356 > fax 943-4178 > 540 943-3356 > - Original Message - > From: "Don Peters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 7:13 PM > Subject: [RCSE] Transm
Re: [RCSE] Hitec Digi Servo burn out! Again...
What is the Ventus wingspan? Which manufacturer is this? Do the control surfaces have a large mass associated with them? How long are the O/P arms versus their mating link at the control surface? How long had the system been sitting idling when you first observed a noise? Most likely the first failure would have pulled the system V down to the point where it reset the rest of the servos. By reset I mean there is a threshold with digitals that if the V falls below, the onboard uprocessor will re-boot. This however does not explain why one servo has been driven to it's limits...and sitting there burning up. A possible programming error? Maybe THIS servo is what caused failures. If at ALL there is excessive servo buzzing, for whatever reason, actually ANY digital servo trying to achieve a position it will never get to...you need to turn off the system and find out why. Otherwise you inveriably will overheat, and let out the magic smoke. It will not be difficult for those who are servicing the servos to see evidence of this! New servos will have no brush wear, the armatures will have zero wear, yet the brush assemblies will show signs of heat-stress or outright failure. Abuse of this type can not be hidden. It should have been evident after the mass failure previously experienced on your Ventus with these servos, that this is not a servo problem. What size packs, 4 or 5 cell? As far a regulators go, if you are using no more than 5cells (NiCD or NiMH), you do not need one. However, if the servos are already working overtime just to hold the control surface weight (as implied) while idle, a higher operating V will contribute to an overheating situation sooner. Even in this case there little difference form the servo's POV whether they see an unregulated 5cell pack V, or a slightly lower regulated V (measure at the sero...). If you insist on using a regulator, it needs to be between the switch and the RX. Otherwise it will run your supply down, and you will not be able charge to charge. It sounds like the servos (digital in this case) are being overtaxed with just the load of the control surface. Are they buzzing noticeably while idle? Are you experiencing excessive jitter as a result of running them for an extended period of time? Excessive jitter, usually from things like appliances, flourescent lighting, and other household eletricals can produce noise which makes the servos work harder than if they were actually in their operating environment...outside at the field in the air. In fact the RX's AGC circuit can be swamped by the TX by just being in close proximity. This can also create excessive jitter. The blue box(!) is just different packaging, no conspiracy. I have received both. How does the packaging indicate these particular servos are different, let alone "bad"? As was pointed out last time, it is possible the servos are not appropriate for this particular configuration. This is not the servos fault. An analog (geez I hate this terminology) servo like previous Volz (or other similar product) will not experience the extra loads imposed on the motor/brush assembly (read as heat build-up) due to the ~300Hz update rate (what we erroneously have elected to call "digital"). Again, it sounds like the servos in this case are not up to the task being demanded of them...in your particular set-up anyways. maybe compare notes with the chap who is using these without issue on (apparently) the very same aircraft. Good luck, please let us know what you find... Quoting "Albert E. Wedworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi All > Al > Here we go again... > So I sent the 4 burned out servos to Hitec for replacement, > 3. HS 5125 MG & 1. HS 5245 MG > Two 1/2 weeks later. > I get them back Monday this week and.. Guess what They come back in a > Nice Plastic Blue Box with stickers even.. > What happened to the cardboard boxes?? > Were these old servos I got??? > Did Hitec upgrade the servos and the boxes? > Or just the boxes? > So > I installed all the Returned servos in the Ventus.. Checked the radio and adj > all throws down to 100% so not to over drive the servo to death .. > > Oh" by the way > I also bought one of those Battery Voltage reducers from Battery America a > VR 5.4 Voltage Regulator. > Well. > When using the VR 5.4 you can't charge the battery when this device is > installed.. Bummer.. don"t like that! > > Also when I went to set up the plane AGAIN I found the battery dead... Like > the VR 5.4 sucked the battery down.. > Pulled the VR 5.4 off charged the battery > and off I go.. AGAIN! > > > Plugged in one wing at a time and set up so not to move the servos to much or > over drive them.. > > Moved to the other wing and set it up > Wow! Everything is working great.. > I'm impressed.. > > So I'm get out my throw meter and set all of my surfaces to factory > recommended settings > All of a sudden I here a weird sound from
Re: [RCSE] Winch Line
There is something else you might want to check also. The ESL winches were suffering from a lot of line breaks a couple years ago. It turned out that the winch line drums had some nicks on the inside edges of the flanges. These nicks were cutting the line as the line got realed in. A little quick work with a file or sandpaper did wonders to cut down on line break problems. You might consider checking for this or similar conditions on your winches. The line could be getting cut at the turnaround for instance. Phil RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Bag the wing and have breakfast.
Les...I be you find they really "stick to your ribs" now! >From: Laszlo Horvath >Date: Wed Mar 02 19:37:56 CST 2005 >To: soaring@airage.com >Subject: [RCSE] Bag the wing and have breakfast. > >I always have problem to keep epoxy at the right temperature. So I >vent to Wall-Mart and looked around what can I use for my hobby. It >just happened I was standing in the pots and pens isle. As I looked >I see an electric pan for $19 bucks (West Bend). Right away somebody >wispered in my ears that is the perfec solution to keep my epoxy >warm! I shelled out the $19 bucks and driving home 80 miles per hour >to try it out. At the lowest setting it is exactly 80 deg. The next >morning I toke two eggs with me, and run down to my shop. Set up the >cores, turn an the skillet, put in the plastic plate, mixed the >epoxy, bagged the wing, and cocked my eggs for breakfast! > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Les > > > >RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. ?Send "subscribe" and >"unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?Please note that subscribe and >unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. >?Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in >text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Keeping Epoxy Warm
The walmart electric skillet sounds like a good idea. However, I've found the epoxy takes a while to heat. It's more convenient to me if I can keep the epoxy warm all the time. My solution is to use a small icechest or cooler. The size that holds only about a six pack. Then I just put a little 4watt light bulb into the cooler. Presto, it's always warm and costs nearly nothing. Bill Swingle Janesville, CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Winch Line
Myself and our club have purchased 270-290# nylon braided line from Memphis Twine previously. We have experienced line breaks quite often on a smooth field within 3-6 months of the new line installation. This is without Icons and Sharons doing banzai launches! When I purchased my Rahm winch new, the line Mr. Rahm sent with the winch did not break more than once or twice within the first two years and was used more often then than now. I have heard that line available in some of the Scandinavian countries is more durable and lasts longer….possibly refined and improved from exposure to the extensive fishing industry that many of these countries have? If any of you know of a line that is better… reasonable priced….and available….I’d love to hear about it. JoJo….that is your neck of the woods if you are reading this. TIA!! BCNU Bruce Hobbs
Re: [RCSE] Hitec Digi Servo burn out! Again...
Hi Ben I get my twisted wire 22 AWG from George Joy @ Peak Electronics. I use multiplex connectors. I use Unassembled Gold plated connectors from Custom Electronics. Jo Joy George's wife @ Peak Electronics. I cut off the factory plugs from the servos and solder direct to the harness. I never use a on /off switch. But if I do use a switch. I buy a Switch Jack from Dieter @ Shredair. I never had one of those fail ! So as you can see I build m own wiring harness. I never had a problem with the wiring harness I build in any of my planes. I just can't seem to spend money on something I can make.. I don't think it's the wiring harness. I think it's the servos them self. This is the first plane I ever used Digi servo in because I never thought I needed them.. But I figured Hay, "what the heck" I got this 5 meter Ship I should use good stuff in it. I have always used Volz servos in the past but with the difference between the dollar /euro there out of my price range now... I hate to say it But...I think Gordy is RIGHT when he tells us they use cheep brushes in our servo motors! I have never had such problems with any Non Digi servo out there . Cheers Al Albert E. Wedworth ( AL ) ERA Capshaw RealestateREALTOR- ASSOCIATECell 530-228-9445Fax 530-343-1715
[RCSE] Tx 4S
I have a Multiplex 4000 FS for $600. Case and all manuals. Ed Granger
[RCSE] Bag the wing and have breakfast.
I always have problem to keep epoxy at the right temperature. So I vent to Wall-Mart and looked around what can I use for my hobby. It just happened I was standing in the pots and pens isle. As I looked I see an electric pan for $19 bucks (West Bend). Right away somebody wispered in my ears that is the perfec solution to keep my epoxy warm! I shelled out the $19 bucks and driving home 80 miles per hour to try it out. At the lowest setting it is exactly 80 deg. The next morning I toke two eggs with me, and run down to my shop. Set up the cores, turn an the skillet, put in the plastic plate, mixed the epoxy, bagged the wing, and cocked my eggs for breakfast! Les RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Transmitters for sale
Don, I'm interested in the Evo 9. What channel is it on? Thanks, SL -- Since no PM available, can I get an email address? -- sll914 sll914's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?action=getinfo&userid=22260 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=341151 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #5242
Hi Hank, As long as you want to receive the digest form of RCSE, there is nothing you can do about it. The only solution is for writers to make sure their e-mail program only sends plain text. This has come up more times than I can count. Don't expect the problem to go away any time soon. Don -Original Message- Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 19:13:09 -0500 From: "Kathy & Hank Gullett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Subject: Re: Soaring V1 #5242 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> How can I eliminate all the double messages and symbolic messages. Just want to read the real text? Hank -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.0 - Release Date: 3/2/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: [RCSE] ?Hitec Digi Servo burn out! ? ?Again...
I've had nothing but great success with Hitech digitals. My gut feel: something in the wiring or elsewhere is creating your problems. Were it the servos, you'd be hearing the same complaints from lots of other fliers. Regards, Steve >From: "Albert E. Wedworth" >Date: Thu Mar 03 10:44:30 CST 2005 >To: Soaring@airage.com >Subject: [RCSE] Hitec Digi Servo burn out!Again... > Hi All Al Here we go again... So I sent the 4 burned out servos? to Hitec for replacement, 3. HS 5125 MG? & 1. HS 5245 MG Two? 1/2?weeks later. I get them back Monday this week and.. Guess what They come back ?in a Nice Plastic Blue Box with stickers even.. What happened to the cardboard boxes?? Were these old servos I got??? Did Hitec upgrade the servos and the boxes? Or just the boxes? So I installed all the Returned servos in the Ventus.. Checked the radio and adj all throws down to 100% so not to over drive the servo to death .. ? Oh"? by the way I also bought one of those Battery Voltage reducers? from Battery?America a VR 5.4?Voltage Regulator. Well. When using the?VR 5.4?you can't charge the battery when this device is installed.. Bummer.. don"t like that! ? Also when I went to set up the plane AGAIN ?I found the battery dead... Like the VR 5.4 sucked the battery down.. Pulled the VR 5.4 off charged the battery and off I go.. AGAIN! ? ? Plugged in one wing at a time and set up so not to move the servos to much or over drive them.. ? Moved to the other wing and set it up Wow!? Everything is working great.. I'm impressed.. ? So I'm get out my throw meter and set all of my surfaces to factory recommended settings All of a sudden I here a weird sound from left my tip servo Gur. as the servo is moving Holly Sh## Lost that one Then as I look over to the right wing panel I see the flap?locked all the way in the down position and that funny??I Let the factory smoke out smell?.? "Oh Sh## " ? Wow! I'm getting really worried about flying this plane with all the servos burning out. ? Any suggestions??? With out spending any more money! ? Sorry Gordy, I can't afford Volz servos any more, There way to expensive! ( I have Volz Wing Maxx?on the Aileron servos of the Ventus with no problems) Maybe the Hitec servo are angry that I have Volz servos in the Ventus at all.. Could this be??? Thanks Al ? ? >I'm building a HM Ventus 2ax 5 m model sailplane. >I've used Hitec digi servos thought. >HS-5245MG digi Mini?& HS 5125 MG Digi thin wing servos. >What I've noticed is they burn out very easily.. >What's up >I haven't gotten my plane in the air yet and?I've burned up 5 >of the servos already! ? >What burned out so far... >1. rudder servo; on a pull pull system HS-5245 MG Digi >( to tight ) my fault... Non Digi now. >1.Tip aileron HS-5245 MG Digi servo.? >2. Flap servos HS-5125 Thin Wing Digi servo. >1. Spoiler servo HS-5245 MG Digi servo. >None of my surface's are tight! >5?cell battery pack. ? >Should I be concerned??? >Is this normal??? >Could it be too much throw? ? ? Cheers AL ? ? ? ? Albert E. Wedworth ( AL ) ERA? Capshaw? RealestateREALTOR- ASSOCIATECell? 530-228-9445Fax 530-343-1715 Albert E. Wedworth ( AL ) ERA? Capshaw? RealestateREALTOR- ASSOCIATECell? 530-228-9445Fax 530-343-1715 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Hitec Digi Servo burn out! Again...
OK: So you buy a $1500.00 molded plane, spending money to fly it safely should not be a primary concern. You have a 5 meter 26 pound aircraft here. It will fly at high speeds. While in theory the Hitecs should work, I would not use what you have specked out in anything over a 4 meter class ship of considerably less value. This not a Hitec bash per se. Hitec digital servos are fine at six volts, (and the high end standard digitals are good quality). It is more the application. You don’t need a regulator. And some servos don’t like them. personally JR DS368 or DS3421’s, or applicable Airtronics servos would be a better investment in my opinion. Reference your investment in airframe. What is it worth to you? But I don’t think this is your issue. Sorry, In case I missed something along the way, I assume you are installing the servos with out hooking them up to the control surfaces first, checking that the travel matches the available surface deflection before hooking up and turning on the radio. Do the surfaces move freely?? Second, I question the battery and switches and possibly your wiring (if you hard wired your servos for example). Initially I don’t think the servos are the problem here, from the sound of your notes. New batteries, quality switches, rx? all correctly wired?? Sounds like a short, or mis wired something. Check the simple stuff first. JD Endless Mountain Models http://www.scalesoaring.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Albert E Wedworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 11:45 AM To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Hitec Digi Servo burn out! Again... Hi All Al Here we go again... So I sent the 4 burned out servos to Hitec for replacement, 3. HS 5125 MG & 1. HS 5245 MG Two 1/2 weeks later. I get them back Monday this week and.. Guess what They come back in a Nice Plastic Blue Box with stickers even.. What happened to the cardboard boxes??
[RCSE] For Sale--Airtronics Questor NIB
For sale on EBAY Airtronics Questor NIB excellent condition. The lid of the box has a few water stains, but the kit is in very good condition. 62 inch wingspan, makes a nice small thermal sailplane or fly it off the slope. Original Airtronics Kit, these are out of production. Item no.5959580396or search under sailplane. Thank You for your time. A.B. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Hitech digi burnout
Al, I have exactly the same model with exactly the same servos, batteries are two four cell 2000 mah NMh packs with a battery backer to manage the power. The model has been up and flying for close to a year with the only problem being the some what lame retract exploding on a "not as soft as it should have been landing". If you are trying to use the "kit supplied control surface linkage" that may be part of the problem, way too sloppy and binds up way too often. I know of several people with this model that gave up on the stock linkage and went to the old tried and true TD model solution with the control rod outside of the wings. Good Luck Richard O'Connell Colorado Springs, CO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Hitec Digi Servo burn out! Again...
Ive not heard so much about burnout on the 5125s as I have heard about the gears stripping, they strip if you just look at em wrong! Perhaps there are some high resistance joints/connections in your harness/connectors/etc. I lost several DS368s in a short time due to loose plugs/faulty connections. I bypassed plugs and hardwired servos into wings and have had no problems since. Walter -Original Message-From: Albert E. Wedworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Soaring@airage.comDate: Thursday, March 03, 2005 8:45 AMSubject: [RCSE] Hitec Digi Servo burn out! Again... Hi All Al Here we go again... So I sent the 4 burned out servos to Hitec for replacement, 3. HS 5125 MG & 1. HS 5245 MG Two 1/2 weeks later. I get them back Monday this week and.. Guess what They come back in a Nice Plastic Blue Box with stickers even.. What happened to the cardboard boxes?? Were these old servos I got??? Did Hitec upgrade the servos and the boxes? Or just the boxes? So I installed all the Returned servos in the Ventus.. Checked the radio and adj all throws down to 100% so not to over drive the servo to death .. Oh" by the way I also bought one of those Battery Voltage reducers from Battery America a VR 5.4 Voltage Regulator. Well. When using the VR 5.4 you can't charge the battery when this device is installed.. Bummer.. don"t like that! Also when I went to set up the plane AGAIN I found the battery dead... Like the VR 5.4 sucked the battery down.. Pulled the VR 5.4 off charged the battery and off I go.. AGAIN! Plugged in one wing at a time and set up so not to move the servos to much or over drive them.. Moved to the other wing and set it up Wow! Everything is working great.. I'm impressed.. So I'm get out my throw meter and set all of my surfaces to factory recommended settings All of a sudden I here a weird sound from left my tip servo Gur. as the servo is moving Holly Sh## Lost that one Then as I look over to the right wing panel I see the flap locked all the way in the down position and that funny I Let the factory smoke out smell . "Oh Sh## " Wow! I'm getting really worried about flying this plane with all the servos burning out. Any suggestions??? With out spending any more money! Sorry Gordy, I can't afford Volz servos any more, There way to expensive! ( I have Volz Wing Maxx on the Aileron servos of the Ventus with no problems) Maybe the Hitec servo are angry that I have Volz servos in the Ventus at all.. Could this be??? Thanks Al >I'm building a HM Ventus 2ax 5 m model sailplane. >I've used Hitec digi servos thought. >HS-5245MG digi Mini & HS 5125 MG Digi thin wing servos. >What I've noticed is they burn out very easily.. >What's up >I haven't gotten my plane in the air yet and I've burned up 5 >of the servos already! >What burned out so far... >1. rudder servo; on a pull pull system HS-5245 MG Digi >( to tight ) my fault... Non Digi now. >1.Tip aileron HS-5245 MG Digi servo. >2. Flap servos HS-5125 Thin Wing Digi servo. >1. Spoiler servo HS-5245 MG Digi servo. >None of my surface's are tight! >5 cell battery pack. >Should I be concerned??? >Is this normal??? >Could it be too much throw? Cheers AL Albert E. Wedworth ( AL ) ERA Capshaw RealestateREALTOR- ASSOCIATECell 530-228-9445Fax 530-343-1715 Albert E. Wedworth ( AL ) ERA Capshaw RealestateREALTOR- ASSOCIATECell 530-228-9445Fax 530-343-1715
[RCSE] RE: Molded Psyko and Parts for Sale
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RE: [RCSE] Hitec Digi Servo burn out! Again...
Al, just go buy some JR 368 digitals and save yourself the heartache! gv -Original Message- From: Ben Diss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 10:59 AM To: Albert E. Wedworth Cc: Soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] Hitec Digi Servo burn out! Again... Al- Tell us about your wiring harness, battery, switch and receiver. Albert E. Wedworth wrote: > Hi All > Al > Here we go again... > So I sent the 4 burned out servos to Hitec for replacement, > 3. HS 5125 MG & 1. HS 5245 MG > Two 1/2 weeks later. > I get them back Monday this week and.. Guess what They come back > in a Nice Plastic Blue Box with stickers even.. > What happened to the cardboard boxes?? > Were these old servos I got??? > Did Hitec upgrade the servos and the boxes? > Or just the boxes? > So > I installed all the Returned servos in the Ventus.. Checked the radio > and adj all throws down to 100% so not to over drive the servo to death .. > > Oh" by the way > I also bought one of those Battery Voltage reducers from > Battery America a VR 5.4 Voltage Regulator. > Well. > When using the VR 5.4 you can't charge the battery when this device is > installed.. Bummer.. don"t like that! > > Also when I went to set up the plane AGAIN I found the battery > dead... Like the VR 5.4 sucked the battery down.. > Pulled the VR 5.4 off charged the battery > and off I go.. AGAIN! > > > Plugged in one wing at a time and set up so not to move the servos to > much or over drive them.. > > Moved to the other wing and set it up > Wow! Everything is working great.. > I'm impressed.. > > So I'm get out my throw meter and set all of my surfaces to factory > recommended settings > All of a sudden I here a weird sound from left my tip servo > Gur. as the servo is moving Holly Sh## Lost that one > Then as I look over to the right wing panel I see the flap locked all > the way in the down position and that funny I Let the factory smoke > out smell . "Oh Sh## " > > Wow! I'm getting really worried about flying this plane with all the > servos burning out. > > Any suggestions??? > With out spending any more money! > > Sorry Gordy, I can't afford Volz servos any more, There way to expensive! > ( I have Volz Wing Maxx on the Aileron servos of the Ventus with no > problems) > Maybe the Hitec servo are angry that I have Volz servos in the Ventus > at all.. > Could this be??? > Thanks > Al > > > >I'm building a HM Ventus 2ax 5 m model sailplane. > >I've used Hitec digi servos thought. > >HS-5245MG digi Mini & HS 5125 MG Digi thin wing servos. > >What I've noticed is they burn out very easily.. > >What's up > >I haven't gotten my plane in the air yet and I've burned up 5 >of the > servos already! > > >What burned out so far... > >1. rudder servo; on a pull pull system HS-5245 MG Digi > >( to tight ) my fault... Non Digi now. > >1.Tip aileron HS-5245 MG Digi servo. > >2. Flap servos HS-5125 Thin Wing Digi servo. > >1. Spoiler servo HS-5245 MG Digi servo. > >None of my surface's are tight! > >5 cell battery pack. > > >Should I be concerned??? > >Is this normal??? > >Could it be too much throw? > > > Cheers > AL > > > > > Albert E. Wedworth ( AL ) > ERA Capshaw Realestate > REALTOR- ASSOCIATE > Cell 530-228-9445 > Fax 530-343-1715 > Albert E. Wedworth ( AL ) > ERA Capshaw Realestate > REALTOR- ASSOCIATE > Cell 530-228-9445 > Fax 530-343-1715 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Rare earth magnets as wing retention devices?
Bill Swingle wrote: Now that we've discussed this at length, has anyone noticed that the magnetic force is not actually suited to this application? Meaning, any displacement of the parts involved reduces the attractive force significantly. But, what is really called for is the opposite characteristic. But actually, isn't that just about the perfect wing retention device for this application? Suitably sized, a rare earth magnet setup would shrug off a minor hit (wing drag or whatever) but would allow you to pull the wing apart with minor effort once the initial bond was broken. Plus wing rigging becomes truly "plug and play" if you have automatic servo connections. The rare earth magnets I have exhibit quite impressive and sufficient magnet force at a distance of 1/2" - 1" to make re-seating after a minor separation completely automatic. I suspect a disturbance that displaces the wing further than that will have also had dire consequences for the entire airframe, and that wing separation will be the least of my worries. Or so it would seem, anyways :) Steve RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Re: Rare earth magnets as wing retention devices?
Couldn´t resist to reply: "> On the other hand, rare earth magnets would make dandy nose weights. If you are trying to stop the nose of the plane close to a big steel nail..." It indeed a Brilliant idea...But that would surely depends on what KIND of steel...many won´t get attract or wouldn´t attract magnets. (Hi-carbon?) - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 2:20 PM Subject: [RCSE] Re: Rare earth magnets as wing retention devices? Plus the fact that a rare earth magnet is fairly dense. I bet that a piece of tape is significantly lighter than the rare earth magnets that would replace as a wing retainer. All in all rare earth magnets are a brilliant misapplication of technology in this instance. On the other hand, rare earth magnets would make dandy nose weights. If you are trying to stop the nose of the plane close to a big steel nail happy trails - Rob Glover From: "Bill Swingle" Now that we've discussed this at length, has anyone noticed that the magnetic force is not actually suited to this application? Meaning, any displacement of the parts involved reduces the attractive force significantly. But, what is really called for is the opposite characteristic. Thus, to make up for the exponential drop in force when displaced; the force when attached must be over designed. Possibly leading to other limitations which must be accommodated. Just a thought. Bill Swingle RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] a beautiful ornithopter
For the linguistically challenged:- http://www.ornithopter.de/english/index_en.htm (Same site -- English version!) Martin Usher Scobie Puchtler wrote: Wow. Check out this rather elegant ornithopter and in particular the quality of the craftsmanship and design: http://www.ornithopter.de/bilder2.htm Lift, Scobie in Seattle RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Rare earth magnets as wing retention devices?
Plus the fact that a rare earth magnet is fairly dense. I bet that a piece of tape is significantly lighter than the rare earth magnets that would replace as a wing retainer. All in all rare earth magnets are a brilliant misapplication of technology in this instance. On the other hand, rare earth magnets would make dandy nose weights. If you are trying to stop the nose of the plane close to a big steel nail happy trails - Rob Glover From: "Bill Swingle" Now that we've discussed this at length, has anyone noticed that the magnetic force is not actually suited to this application? Meaning, any displacement of the parts involved reduces the attractive force significantly. But, what is really called for is the opposite characteristic. Thus, to make up for the exponential drop in force when displaced; the force when attached must be over designed. Possibly leading to other limitations which must be accommodated. Just a thought. Bill Swingle RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Hitec Digi Servo burn out! Again...
I seem to recall that some regulators are not recommended for use with Hitec digital servos. I've had a set of 4 5245s in an Ultimate bipe for well over two years now - two on ailerons, one each on rudder and elevator (pull-pull). Power comes from a 4-cell 1200 mAh NIMH pack. -0- problems. The only one I have in a sailplane drives the elevator of my 2M Starship. Power there is a 5-cell 1650 NIMH pack. No regulator. Its been there for quite some time with no problems. -==- Barrett -Original Message- From: Albert E. Wedworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 12:45 PM To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Hitec Digi Servo burn out! Again... Here we go again... ... Oh" by the way I also bought one of those Battery Voltage reducers from Battery America a VR 5.4 Voltage Regulator. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Hitec Digi Servo burn out! Again...
Al- Tell us about your wiring harness, battery, switch and receiver. Albert E. Wedworth wrote: Hi All Al Here we go again... So I sent the 4 burned out servos to Hitec for replacement, 3. HS 5125 MG & 1. HS 5245 MG Two 1/2 weeks later. I get them back Monday this week and.. Guess what They come back in a Nice Plastic Blue Box with stickers even.. What happened to the cardboard boxes?? Were these old servos I got??? Did Hitec upgrade the servos and the boxes? Or just the boxes? So I installed all the Returned servos in the Ventus.. Checked the radio and adj all throws down to 100% so not to over drive the servo to death .. Oh" by the way I also bought one of those Battery Voltage reducers from Battery America a VR 5.4 Voltage Regulator. Well. When using the VR 5.4 you can't charge the battery when this device is installed.. Bummer.. don"t like that! Also when I went to set up the plane AGAIN I found the battery dead... Like the VR 5.4 sucked the battery down.. Pulled the VR 5.4 off charged the battery and off I go.. AGAIN! Plugged in one wing at a time and set up so not to move the servos to much or over drive them.. Moved to the other wing and set it up Wow! Everything is working great.. I'm impressed.. So I'm get out my throw meter and set all of my surfaces to factory recommended settings All of a sudden I here a weird sound from left my tip servo Gur. as the servo is moving Holly Sh## Lost that one Then as I look over to the right wing panel I see the flap locked all the way in the down position and that funny I Let the factory smoke out smell . "Oh Sh## " Wow! I'm getting really worried about flying this plane with all the servos burning out. Any suggestions??? With out spending any more money! Sorry Gordy, I can't afford Volz servos any more, There way to expensive! ( I have Volz Wing Maxx on the Aileron servos of the Ventus with no problems) Maybe the Hitec servo are angry that I have Volz servos in the Ventus at all.. Could this be??? Thanks Al >I'm building a HM Ventus 2ax 5 m model sailplane. >I've used Hitec digi servos thought. >HS-5245MG digi Mini & HS 5125 MG Digi thin wing servos. >What I've noticed is they burn out very easily.. >What's up >I haven't gotten my plane in the air yet and I've burned up 5 >of the servos already! >What burned out so far... >1. rudder servo; on a pull pull system HS-5245 MG Digi >( to tight ) my fault... Non Digi now. >1.Tip aileron HS-5245 MG Digi servo. >2. Flap servos HS-5125 Thin Wing Digi servo. >1. Spoiler servo HS-5245 MG Digi servo. >None of my surface's are tight! >5 cell battery pack. >Should I be concerned??? >Is this normal??? >Could it be too much throw? Cheers AL Albert E. Wedworth ( AL ) ERA Capshaw Realestate REALTOR- ASSOCIATE Cell 530-228-9445 Fax 530-343-1715 Albert E. Wedworth ( AL ) ERA Capshaw Realestate REALTOR- ASSOCIATE Cell 530-228-9445 Fax 530-343-1715 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Hitec Digi Servo burn out! Again...
Hi All Al Here we go again... So I sent the 4 burned out servos to Hitec for replacement, 3. HS 5125 MG & 1. HS 5245 MG Two 1/2 weeks later. I get them back Monday this week and.. Guess what They come back in a Nice Plastic Blue Box with stickers even.. What happened to the cardboard boxes?? Were these old servos I got??? Did Hitec upgrade the servos and the boxes? Or just the boxes? So I installed all the Returned servos in the Ventus.. Checked the radio and adj all throws down to 100% so not to over drive the servo to death .. Oh" by the way I also bought one of those Battery Voltage reducers from Battery America a VR 5.4 Voltage Regulator. Well. When using the VR 5.4 you can't charge the battery when this device is installed.. Bummer.. don"t like that! Also when I went to set up the plane AGAIN I found the battery dead... Like the VR 5.4 sucked the battery down.. Pulled the VR 5.4 off charged the battery and off I go.. AGAIN! Plugged in one wing at a time and set up so not to move the servos to much or over drive them.. Moved to the other wing and set it up Wow! Everything is working great.. I'm impressed.. So I'm get out my throw meter and set all of my surfaces to factory recommended settings All of a sudden I here a weird sound from left my tip servo Gur. as the servo is moving Holly Sh## Lost that one Then as I look over to the right wing panel I see the flap locked all the way in the down position and that funny I Let the factory smoke out smell . "Oh Sh## " Wow! I'm getting really worried about flying this plane with all the servos burning out. Any suggestions??? With out spending any more money! Sorry Gordy, I can't afford Volz servos any more, There way to expensive! ( I have Volz Wing Maxx on the Aileron servos of the Ventus with no problems) Maybe the Hitec servo are angry that I have Volz servos in the Ventus at all.. Could this be??? Thanks Al >I'm building a HM Ventus 2ax 5 m model sailplane. >I've used Hitec digi servos thought. >HS-5245MG digi Mini & HS 5125 MG Digi thin wing servos. >What I've noticed is they burn out very easily.. >What's up >I haven't gotten my plane in the air yet and I've burned up 5 >of the servos already! >What burned out so far... >1. rudder servo; on a pull pull system HS-5245 MG Digi >( to tight ) my fault... Non Digi now. >1.Tip aileron HS-5245 MG Digi servo. >2. Flap servos HS-5125 Thin Wing Digi servo. >1. Spoiler servo HS-5245 MG Digi servo. >None of my surface's are tight! >5 cell battery pack. >Should I be concerned??? >Is this normal??? >Could it be too much throw? Cheers AL Albert E. Wedworth ( AL ) ERA Capshaw RealestateREALTOR- ASSOCIATECell 530-228-9445Fax 530-343-1715 Albert E. Wedworth ( AL ) ERA Capshaw RealestateREALTOR- ASSOCIATECell 530-228-9445Fax 530-343-1715
[RCSE] Re: Soaring V1 #5247
Hi Eddie, Fred Mallett seems to have dropped out of sight of sailplaners since about 2000 or 2001. I communicated with him by email and phone a number of times before that (I got into sailplanes in 1997), and thought we might get together to fly since he has (had?) relatives not far south of here (Duluth, Minnesota) in Solon Springs, Wisconsin. But the last time I spoke with him by phone (he was in Corpus Christi, Texas, at the time), he told me he was selling most or all his stuff and not kitting planes anymore. He sold it to Bryan Buass, Northridge, CA, who radically modified the Epsilon, then designed the Raptor DLG, which he is probably still making. I have one of his Epsilons which I modified into a DLG. It worked, but then I bought an Encore kit. That took care of any interest in other DLGs for a while. Regarding your wing problem, I didn't have the same problem with my Epsilons I got from Fred. You might have gotten a couple of wings that hadn't been glued up in the bag quite correctly. One of mine did short the contacts on a 13000 volt transformer on a pole at the side of the field I fly on 100 meters from my house. Huge ball of fire resulted, and small pieces of burning stuff was all that got to the ground. I made my Epsilon wings two-piece following the instructions Fred had published in RCSD. Worked great. I also put RDS in the second one, but used .032 wire, which turned out to be too twisty (use .045 or so, I'd say). The Epsilon would be a great sloper. I used to use mine for that when the winds were not strong at the slope. Incidentally, Eddie, I'm coming to Australia in July. My wife has a Montessori teacher conference in Sydney around the 18th. We don't have tickets yet, but were thinking of going to Northern NZ first and driving south about as far as possible in the South Island, then flying from there to Sydney some days before the conference, then after the conference getting around to see the sights as well. I'm thinking of bringing along my Genie LT/S, and one or two DLGs. Maybe I should bring a sloper as well, What do you think? Any suggestions and advice you might have would be much appreciated. I've been reading with great interest the posts by Gordy. I'd like to be able to visit one or two of the flying sites he did. Perhaps there won't be any contests in the middle of your winter, but the weather will be warmer than during the winter here in Duluth (low this morning -20 degrees C, and officially 65 cm. of snow on the ground at the weather station). Heck, winter in some places in central and south Australia isn't much colder than high summer here in Duluth. Looking forward to meeting you and other Down Under sailplaners if possible-- Al
Re: [RCSE] Rare earth magnets as wing retention devices?
Bill Swingle wrote: Now that we've discussed this at length, has anyone noticed that the magnetic force is not actually suited to this application? Meaning, any displacement of the parts involved reduces the attractive force significantly. But, what is really called for is the opposite characteristic. Thus, to make up for the exponential drop in force when displaced; the force when attached must be over designed. Possibly leading to other limitations which must be accommodated. Just a thought. Multiplex had some machined positive lock connectors for this once upon a time. Maybe others? Personally, I use vinyl electrical tape. Cheap. Plentiful. Comes in an assortment of colors. Donesn't lift covering or paint either. Guess I'm low-tech :) -- Andrew E. Mileski Ottawa, Canada RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Attention LSF members
As you know, each LSF officer may only serve two consecutive terms. At the end of this year, my 2nd term as LSF Secretary will come to an end. I am therefore asking any LSF members interested in placing their names in the LSF officers election upcoming this Fall for the position of secretary to contact me. I have prepared a lengthy document that details the work involved with this position and would be glad to email it to genuinely interested persons. I'll also be available for face-to-face discussion at the Toledo show (just check the LSF booth) and at the NATS next summer. This is a volunteer position that, while, at least in my opinion, is most rewarding, does require a significant amount of time and effort. It is an opportunity to give something back to the hobby which has given us so much. Please give it serious consideration and, if interested, contact me. Thanks for your consideration, Jim Deck Secretary, LSF
Re: [RCSE] Epsilon HLG ...
The Epsilon was a good flying plane. But it was fragile. I haven't heard if the aileron model was any more so but I don't think it was. The plane was just easy to break. Don't know about Fred. Haven't heard from him since about '98. But, that doesn't mean you can't have a bunch of fun with the plane anywhere! Just don't: Pull down at the end of your javelin launch, or collide with any solid objects like rocks or the ground. :-) Bill Swingle RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Molded Psyko and Parts for Sale
Molded Psyko: Lightly used and in excellent condition, Never crashed, no dings and no contest dork landings. Has 5/8 round carbon wing joiner. Servos: Volz MicroMaxx X on flaps and elevator, Volz WingMaxx on ailerons, and Hitec HS 85MG on rudder. 1750 NiMH Rcvr battery. Add recvr and fly. $ 800 plus shipping from Tucson. Pics available on request Molded Psyko Parts and Servos: Left wing.$75 Fuse with nosecone and built up rudder rudder$75 Molded stab$ 35 5/8 round carbon joiner$25 2 Volz WingMaxx servos$ 90 for both All parts lightly used and in excellent condition. Pics avilable on request. $275 for the parts and servos together plus shipping $1050 for plane, parts and servos plus shipping. Please reply off exchange. Thanks for the bandwidth. Dale Kitchens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 520 795-6922 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Rare earth magnets as wing retention devices?
Good point. It is overkill, and as soon as the magnets are separated a little bit, they lose most functionality. Also remember that these magnets are (relatively) easy to slide apart, so if the plane part in question is sheard off - it will just slide away. Their real force is felt when separating them in a perpendicular fashion. I have been toying with the idea of using them as canopy hold-downs, but will they affect the componants in proximity to the magnets (RX, servos, etc . . )? Again, I have used them on a 100" 3 piece, lightweight sailplane wing. But I did use a little tape too - to cover the gap and relieve my fear of there being nothing but magnetic force holding them together. On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 07:44:58 -0800, Bill Swingle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now that we've discussed this at length, has anyone noticed that the > magnetic force is not actually suited to this application? Meaning, any > displacement of the parts involved reduces the attractive force > significantly. But, what is really called for is the opposite > characteristic. > > Thus, to make up for the exponential drop in force when displaced; the force > when attached must be over designed. Possibly leading to other limitations > which must be accommodated. > > Just a thought. > > Bill Swingle > > > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and > "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and > unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. > Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in > text format > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Number of members at each LSF level
An interest in the number of members at each LSF level has been expressed. Here is the most recent count: Level Count I 3994 II 1522 III 1087 IV 685 V 118 Please note that this table is updated monthly and can be found on the “Upgrades” page of the LSF website (www.silentflight.org) Jim Deck Secretary, LSF
Re: [RCSE] Rare earth magnets as wing retention devices?
Now that we've discussed this at length, has anyone noticed that the magnetic force is not actually suited to this application? Meaning, any displacement of the parts involved reduces the attractive force significantly. But, what is really called for is the opposite characteristic. Thus, to make up for the exponential drop in force when displaced; the force when attached must be over designed. Possibly leading to other limitations which must be accommodated. Just a thought. Bill Swingle RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format