[RCSE] Can't seem to unsubscribe

2005-07-11 Thread DocData757
I sent in the 'unsubscribe' email and got a single reply saying a 
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change in my email address that I made about a year ago is the issue.  
However, I am continuing to get the digests sent to my current email so 
I don't understand why the confirmation email would not have done the 
same.

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Re: [RCSE] Can't seem to unsubscribe

2005-07-11 Thread Robert Spilleboudt
I got the same but my email did not change.

The list software is bad.




On Monday 11 July 2005 13:33, DocData757 wrote:
 I sent in the 'unsubscribe' email and got a single reply saying a
 confirmation email was being sent to me email address of record.  I
 didn't get the second email and can not therefore confirm.  I suspect a
 change in my email address that I made about a year ago is the issue.
 However, I am continuing to get the digests sent to my current email so
 I don't understand why the confirmation email would not have done the
 same.

 Can anyone help?

 Thanks,
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RE: [RCSE] 2 meter r hurts.Dayton! - The winners?

2005-07-11 Thread Douglas, Brent
The winner was a Columbus native, a double LSF-V - Don Harris.  I think
he said he's won more 2-meter contests than any other kind, a testament
to his air reading.  
 
Planes were all over the place - a pair of Manti, a Super V, 2 Organics,
a Seeker (in the top 3 , Bruce Herider's been en fuego lately).  Fairly
sure a Gnome took wood (Ken Davidson).   2 Ducks did well, and Barry
Anderson's Monarch still flew well.  I backed my car over a Spirit
Elite, repeatedly.
 
Anyone know what Don's plane is called?   I think it's a hybrid, for
lack of a nicer word.
 
PS - first Gordy exposure, he gave me some pretty good pointers on
Saturday, probably earned me an extra 500 points. Something tells me
he's a salesman.
 
Thanks to all who came and flew, was a great 2 days.

Brent

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[RCSE] List unsubscribe/subscribe

2005-07-11 Thread Michael Lachowski
For some reason it looks like the list software is not detecting the 
senders email address correctly.

For now, you need to specify your email address.


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[RCSE] July newsletter posted

2005-07-11 Thread mikelsfv

The July issue of the Eagle's Nest, newsletter of the Sacramento Valley Soaring Society is posted on the club website svss.org. Click the "news" button.
This is the Spring Fling issue with coverage of our annual two day thermal contest.
Mike Clancy
Editor


[RCSE] Soaring Stuff - For Sale

2005-07-11 Thread Adrian Kinimaka
NEW STING 3.0M - very clean and in excellent condition, all carbon, 
HN354 foil, vee-tail, yellow/red scheme, JR digitals (368/168), new 
5-cell pack and Hoopes wire harness.  Ready to fly at $1200.00

MAKO fuse and Stabs - very good condition with 2 x JR 341 servo's 
and setup for a 1/2 wingrod.  $50.00

PSYCHO - Unbuilt fuselage, bagged 7035 wings and plan set.  Ordered 
these spares from NES and never needed them.  $225.00

JR XP8103 Transmitter - Ch 26 FM/PCM module w/digital trims.  Owners 
manual and box reeked of glo-fuel from the previous owner so I 
pitched them.  The transmitter itself is in very good condition.  
$175.00

F3B/F3F Sighting Devices - brand new Ziegelmeyer built pair designed 
to mount on a tripod.  I do not have the wire rod which is used to 
form the sighting loop however, it can be found any hardware store 
or hobby shop.  $25.00 

AIRTRONICS 8CH PCM RX - excellent condition, old style pre-Z 
connectors w/o crystal.  $40.00

I can provide pics or references if you need them.  Shipping on the 
small stuff will be by USPS.  I'll split the FEDex charges on the 
bigger items.  Forward any questions via e-mail or cell: 808-222-3272

Aloha,
Adrian



 


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[RCSE] Icons for sale

2005-07-11 Thread EXT-McCleave, Howard R
OK guys, what's going on.  While I normally just read the list and occasionally 
post a for sale item I just have to comment on this strange phenomenon.  My 
flying buddy Jim Porter has posted a couple of Icons, one RTF and the other NIB 
and nobody has snapped them up.  We're talking about an F3J version with top 
quality digital JR gear built by arguably the best craftsman I have ever seen.  
No glued in servos here, everything on mounts.  It's balanced and test flown 
only and is perfect.  Oh, and by the way, you could have it next week, no wait! 
 Did I mention a basically free Bag Lady bag in the deal.  Guess I'm sounding a 
little like Gordy here but come on, somebody buy these planes!  Rants over. 
Back to work.

Thanks,

Randy McCleave
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[RCSE] 2-NIB DS 168s for trade

2005-07-11 Thread mpodder

I have 2-NIB DS 168s I want to trade for 2-NIB DS 368s.

Maurice

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[RCSE] Nats paperwork

2005-07-11 Thread Jeff Steifel

Just Curious.
Anyone get there confirmation from the AMA for the NATS yet?

Got it from Ed Franz, but not from the AMA...


--
Jeff Steifel

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Re: [RCSE] Icons for sale

2005-07-11 Thread D Hauch
I was wondering the same thing, if there's a long wait on these
planes, why hasn't somebody bought this.

BTW; Jim is the best builder I've ever seen.

Dave Hauch
www.git-r-built.com
- Original Message - 
From: EXT-McCleave, Howard R [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: soaring@airage.com
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 4:24 AM
Subject: [RCSE] Icons for sale


OK guys, what's going on.  While I normally just read the list and
occasionally post a for sale item I just have to comment on this strange
phenomenon.  My flying buddy Jim Porter has posted a couple of Icons, one
RTF and the other NIB and nobody has snapped them up.  We're talking about
an F3J version with top quality digital JR gear built by arguably the best
craftsman I have ever seen.  No glued in servos here, everything on mounts.
It's balanced and test flown only and is perfect.  Oh, and by the way, you
could have it next week, no wait!  Did I mention a basically free Bag Lady
bag in the deal.  Guess I'm sounding a little like Gordy here but come on,
somebody buy these planes!  Rants over. Back to work.

Thanks,

Randy McCleave
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[RCSE] Re: LISF Aerotow

2005-07-11 Thread ray

Ben Diss send your e-mail address.   Ray


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[RCSE] Subscribing/unsubscribing

2005-07-11 Thread gav0ss
I just read Mike's email to the list about subscribing and 
unsubscribing.  I was successfull by addressing it to soaring-
[EMAIL PROTECTED], and by putting subscribe(space)(my email 
address).  The server recognized it and I was logged back on in a 
matter of minutes.  gv


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[RCSE] Diana 2 is hard to beat

2005-07-11 Thread Zb. Michalczyk


Subject: Re: [Scale-Soaring] Diana 2 BB took fist in longest task in FAI 
contest history



Yep, it's looks like a lone Diana put the spank on a whole squadron of 
Ventus' ! =^D That's the kind of winning I like to see


Blue skies,
Capn' Crunchie


It is happening
She is winning 5 tasks out 7 so far

Pilot ?
Janusz Centka
or
Glider?

Check for results and spectacular Pictures ( I mean it ).
Did you ever seen rainbow made by glider?

http://www.egc2005.fi/


Zbigniew Michalczyk
The Soaring Little Fleet of Poland
www.LittleSoaringFleet.com
http://mysite.verizon.net/vze2qbfc/


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[RCSE] US F3J Team Selection Registraton Deadline

2005-07-11 Thread Jim Monaco
There are 10 days left to complete your registration for this event.  AMA
registration forms must be postmarked by July 18.  This link will get you
the registration form in WORD format.  If you cannot use a WORD document
contact me and I will send you a PDF version of the AMA registration form.
Remember you need to register both with the AMA via their form AND online
with the RMSA organizer at the RMSA website
http://www.rmsadenver.com/f3j-ts.htm http://www.rmsadenver.com/f3j-ts.htm
.

Be sure to complete your team registration and/or affiliation on the RMSA
website as well.

As soon as registration closes I will begin the frequency coordination
process and the compilation of the flight matrixes.

Good Luck – See you in Denver.

Jim Monaco
Organizer – US F3J Team Selections
Denver, CO
http://www.rmsadenver.com



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[RCSE] RE: US F3J Team Selection Registraton Deadline

2005-07-11 Thread Jim Monaco
Oops copied the same link twice
This is the link for the AMA registration form:
http://www.rmsadenver.com/f3j-ama-entry.pdf

I posted it in PDF so everyone can read it...
Jim

Jim Monaco

-Original Message-
From: Jim Monaco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 7:20 AM
To: ListServer Soaring; [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
Subject: US F3J Team Selection Registraton Deadline

There are 10 days left to complete your registration for this event.  AMA
registration forms must be postmarked by July 18.  This link will get you
the registration form in WORD format.  If you cannot use a WORD document
contact me and I will send you a PDF version of the AMA registration form.
Remember you need to register both with the AMA via their form AND online
with the RMSA organizer at the RMSA website
http://www.rmsadenver.com/f3j-ts.htm http://www.rmsadenver.com/f3j-ts.htm
.

Be sure to complete your team registration and/or affiliation on the RMSA
website as well.

As soon as registration closes I will begin the frequency coordination
process and the compilation of the flight matrixes.

Good Luck - See you in Denver.

Jim Monaco
Organizer - US F3J Team Selections
Denver, CO
http://www.rmsadenver.com




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[RCSE] US F3J Team Selection Available Frequencies

2005-07-11 Thread Jim Monaco

As of today (6/8/05) nearly all pilots are on their own frequency.  The
following frequencies are clear and available for use:
14
23
24
25
27
30
33
37
45
48
58
60


If you have not yet signed up, it would be helpful if you were able to
choose from these frequencies.  If you are not – then you MUST choose a
frequency that is the same as one of your teammates.

Thanks for your cooperation.
Jim

Jim Monaco



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[RCSE] Vision Battery Pack?

2005-07-11 Thread lenci1938e
Hi,

Does anyone know any hobby shops that still have some tranmitter packs 
for the Vision 8SP radio?  Airtronics no longer stocks the TX packs.  
Does anyone have a good TX battery case avaiable?  One where both 
sliding tabs work properly.  I am not concerned with the condition of 
the batteries.

Thanks,

Shawn Lenci
Escalon, CA


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[RCSE] Landing Ellipse 4 problem solved

2005-07-11 Thread Richard L Bothell
I received several suggestions on how to better land my Ellipse 4.  I 
considered them all.  My CG is as far back as I care to fly.  I now use 75 
degrees down flap with about 40 degrees down aileron with appropriate elevator 
compensation mixed in to achieve a slightly down attitude.  At about 30 seconds 
to go SLOWLEY set full down deflection of flap/aileron.  Just fly it slightly 
nose down through the down leg and final turn and final leg to the landing 
target.  No sudden changes.  Use only slight changes in flap to hit the target. 
 Problems occurred  when I gave it sudden flap changes.  So, manage speed and 
height with practice, not by changing flap/aileron settings.  There's is that P 
word again.  No, not Perkins, PRACTICE.Thanks to all who gave me 
suggestions.  PS.  I don't need those Transmitter suggestions for my 8103.  
Problem solved.   

Rick Bothell, Prescott Valley, AZ
www.handsfreeretriever.com



[RCSE] Whatever happened to...

2005-07-11 Thread John Erickson
What is Dr. Selig up to these days?  Anyone know?

JE
--
Erickson Architects
John R. Erickson, AIA


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RE: [RCSE] Whatever happened to...

2005-07-11 Thread John Derstine
I saw him last at the JR Aerotow in Monticello, (not far from Champaign
Urbana where he teaches), maybe a new series of scale airfoils to
follow? Probably not, but he seems well and always interested in talking
sailplanes.
JD

Endless Mountain Models
http://www.scalesoaring.com
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

 -Original Message-
 From: John Erickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 1:50 PM
 To: Soaring List
 Subject: [RCSE] Whatever happened to...
 
 What is Dr. Selig up to these days?  Anyone know?
 
 JE
 --
 Erickson Architects
 John R. Erickson, AIA
 
 
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[RCSE] XP4 Polar Data and Calculation

2005-07-11 Thread Dave Register
Measurements and analysis of flight performance of an XP4 and have been 
uploaded as a summary Adobe document to the files section of the 
SALGlider group:


Flight Data folder, XP4 Polar Comparison.PDF file.

I'll try and flesh out some more details in a few days and post a more 
comprehensive report as my last column for RCSD next month.


In the measurements reported, the sink rate and flight speed for a 
nominally configured XP4 were determined using the Eagle Tree data 
recorder reviewed recently in RCSD. This data consitutes the overall 
'polar' performance of the aircraft (plot of sink rate vs airspeed) at 
nominal trim. In most cases, we look at airfoil data and assume the 
aircraft reflects that behavior. However, planform, wing loading, 
parasitic drag and other contributions significantly changes the overall 
result. Blaine Beron-Rowdon carried out similar measurements many years 
ago with a cadre of folks from SFVSF and PSS. I am not aware of other 
determinations on R/C sailplanes since that time. Having finally had a 
calm morning here in Oklahoma, I believe the data are of good quality 
and are representative of the performance of an XP4.


A satisfying aspect of the reported information is the agreement between 
the measured data and the calculations reported in RCSD over the last 
several years. No attempt was made to'fit' the theory to the measured 
results. The nominal XP4 configuration was plugged into the program, 
X-Foil results for the AG455CT were used  for the airfoil input, and the 
resulting theory was graphed along with the the data. No modifications 
to either result were made.


As weather permits, more data will be added for the RSCD report.

At the end of the flight session, a final evaluation was made using a 
'thermal' mode flap setting. Only a slight increase in sink rate was 
noted but a significant reduction in flight speed was obtained. Flap 
deployment in this case is ~ 3mm with slight elevator compensation.


- Dave R




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Re: [RCSE] Nats paperwork

2005-07-11 Thread Marc Gellart
That is all you are getting from what I know Jeff, Ed is all that really counts 
and it is redundency for AMA to send out something in addition, it cost $'s.  
Also, all the other nebulus info is on the website now and can be accessed 
there.

I was not told this directly, but it would make sense in the scheme of things.

Marc




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Re: [RCSE] Icons for sale

2005-07-11 Thread Marc Gellart
Randy,
   As we all know, the Icon is a superior ship with great workmanship courtesy 
of Don Peters, this no one would deny is a good deal.  But you might be seeing 
that the market is getting to the saturation point to a certain degree.  Hey, I 
understand the frustration of posting a good ship and not getting a bite, but 
just as any market will show where to price an item, this to me says price is 
too high and either hold on or lower the $'s required to play the game.

Marc
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RE: [RCSE] Icons for sale

2005-07-11 Thread George Voss
Mark, I'd agree with your point of view, but as stated earlier, there is
over a years wait.  As a matter of fact, I got on the list 2 years ago and
my name came up when I went to CA to help my dad last November.  I asked to
be 'set back' 10 spots so I would be home again, better to handle my
finances when I was at the top of the list again.  My 2 planes and a center
section should ship this week, 23 months after I asked to be put on the
list.

I believe the point made is there are people on the waiting list that could
use one or both of these planes and save months to years waiting for a
plane.  Yes they are high $ but I've personally never flown any other plane
that was better at its chosen task.  Sure, better flyers can beat me with
quote unquote inferior planes, but the Icon is just that, an ICON in the
soaring world.

If I had enough to buy one of Jim's new ones I would, but my $ is tied up in
the two I ordered.  Besides, they have awesome special color schemes I
designed.  That's the only reason I'm selling my used ones, as there is
nothing wrong with them at all.  I just get to fly one's with color schemes
that I like better than RMC's PowerCats adorned wings.  Randy, try the USC
Trojans emblem next time! ;-)

So, if someone is looking for a used Icon at sub $2K prices, let me know.
As always, we appreciate everyone's input in these discussions.  gv  

-Original Message-
From: Marc Gellart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 1:51 PM
To: EXT-McCleave, Howard R; soaring@airage.com
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Icons for sale

Randy,
   As we all know, the Icon is a superior ship with great workmanship
courtesy of Don Peters, this no one would deny is a good deal.  But you
might be seeing that the market is getting to the saturation point to a
certain degree.  Hey, I understand the frustration of posting a good ship
and not getting a bite, but just as any market will show where to price an
item, this to me says price is too high and either hold on or lower the $'s
required to play the game.

Marc
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[RCSE] Icons not selling?

2005-07-11 Thread d. o. darnell
Icons not selling?  Could it be the price?  But who am I to talk?  I have  
owned two Mercedes but have since come to my senses (kind of) and am Now a  
Honda driver.

Bottom line:  The Market rules!  (if the line doesn't break!) :)

D.O.
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Re: [RCSE] Icons for sale

2005-07-11 Thread Dana Flemming
This sounds sensible -- the number of people willing to invest that kind of money maybeclose to being reached. 
Great plane, no doubt, and a GREAT guy selling them. Buthow many people are there out there who can pony up those kinds of bucks?
DanaMarc Gellart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Randy,As we all know, the Icon is a superior ship with great workmanship courtesy of Don Peters, this no one would deny is a good deal. But you might be seeing that the market is getting to the saturation point to a certain degree. Hey, I understand the frustration of posting a good ship and not getting a bite, but just as any market will show where to price an item, this to me says price is too high and either hold on or lower the $'s required to play the game.MarcRCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format

Re: [RCSE] Icons not selling? - used is good - a price

2005-07-11 Thread Hilaunch



In a message dated 7/11/2005 12:39:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Icons not selling? Could it be the price? I have owned two Mercedes but have since come to my senses (kind of) and am Now a Honda driver.Bottom line: The Market rules! (if the line doesn't break!) :)
 Well I am on the reverse course. I have owned 6 Mercedes over the past 30 years and 3 of them are still everyday drivers. The Pensacola car (1988 300TE) has 350K on it and still works perfectly. Following the star gives you that extra good littlefeeling that is comparable to flying an ICON. I recently purchased my first ICON and would consider one or two more if I could sell a few more wing rods or get adopted by Dr. Dan.. Like the Mercedes, the ICON is the top of the tree. Do I win any more contests? Probably not, but it is not the ICON's fault. The Mercedes and the ICON cost a bit more, but the good feeling is priceless.

Don RichmondSan Diego, CA (Virginia Beach, VA today)[EMAIL PROTECTED]hilaunch.com


Re: [RCSE] 2 meter r hurts...at least in Dayton!

2005-07-11 Thread Jack Iafret
Been there, done that. The DARTS are devious and the air in Dayton
generally sucks except for the DARTS. How do they do that??

Ex Daytonian

On 7/10/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Had my trusty (more like rusty since it never gets out to fly) Organic
 charged and ready for some ass kickin today in Dayton. 
 Woke up at the local Holiday Inn to sun and calm winds.  Got to the field to
 find sun and wind building. 
   
 All the big dogs showed up to put the hurtin on me, Don Harris, Paul the
 Siegel, Marc Gellart, Jerry SuperV Shape, and a cast of other rough looking
 types who were obviously ringers brought in to insure that I wouldn't be
 hauling any more Dayton wood away. 
   
 I tried my own intimidation by showing up pulling a trailer (you know to
 carry all the wood), but in the end it didn't work. 
   
 It was sooo obvious what was afootFirst they rig the winches to lull me
 into complacency by making sure that I out launced  everyone in my rounds. 
 That part worked, I zoomed well beyond all, and headed out distracted, so
 never noticed that I flew through hundreds of thermals. 
   
 After 6 rounds of 10minutes each, I had amassed a total time of about 6
 minutes (the total air time out of all 6 rounds) while everyone else seemed
 to get their times. 
 
 First round they had rigged a tree line to extend upward so that I would get
 stuck behind, off field in some beans!  These guys are devious.  That put a
 bunch of poke holes in my Organic's Ultracoat and put a wrinkle in the new
 fuse's tailboom. 
   
 Then they had trimmed bushes up wind so that I had tremendous turbulence in
 the landing zone, which caused a flip over landing. 
   
 All in all a pretty fun day, and seriously one of the most challenging
 flying sites I have ever flown and easily some of the best thumb wiggling
 soaring I have been privileged to witness. 
   
 Wish you all could have been hosed like me :-) 
 Gordy
 Columbus, Cincinatti, Louisville, Harrisburg, Rochester, Jamestown
 NDthen Muncie! 


-- 
Jack Iafret
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[RCSE] Landing setup for the Tempest

2005-07-11 Thread Jack Iafret
Just read the info on the E4 for landing and will try it this week
(mine is working fairly well but not perfect). Does anyone have the
same type of data on the Tempest?

Flew a two day contest this weekend and the plane did great except for
landing (tough landing field under any circumstance). I use a Profi
4000 so any kind of mix curve is possible, mine sucks.

I did set up the throws the best I could to Marks numbers but the
mixes are not detailed for curves (if I remember correctly) so it is
the normal trim proceedures.

Background is the plane coming home at high speed from up-on-high and
is fine, slowy deploy flaps to whoa-it-up and then come to
downwind, as the speed drops so does the nose. Elev. commands become
very sensitive as the plane slows and it seems very difficult to find
a steady glide path. I feel the plane will do it well but my settings
must be off enough to make it difficult. Feels really pitch sensitive
with the  flaps at about 60-70 degrees and about 10 degrees up
aileron.  If I go to 90 degrees the plane almost stops flying and tip
stalls with minor corrections in roll even with enough down mix to
make the rudder non-functional.
-- 
Yea: I know practice is king but I am looking to shortcut the process a tad.


Jack Iafret
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Re: [RCSE] 2 meter r hurts...at least in Dayton!

2005-07-11 Thread ejfranz

Hey Gordy,

Ever hear the saying, Friends don't let friends fly 2-meter? Well..

Ed

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RE: [RCSE] Whatever happened to...

2005-07-11 Thread John Diniz
He was at the JR Aerotow again this year and he was also at the USRA race in 
Rantoul a few weeks back. He still teaches at the U of I here in Champaign.
John

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To: Soaring List
Subject: [RCSE] Whatever happened to...


What is Dr. Selig up to these days?  Anyone know?

JE
--
Erickson Architects
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[RCSE] Fw: FAI 13th European Gliding Championships 2005

2005-07-11 Thread Zb. Michalczyk

Hi All again
People asked me where are those rainbow pictures
here is a direct link to rainbow page
below
folders with pictures
and
main site again

Enjoy

http://www.egc2005.fi/pictures/kai/10072005_finish/page1.html

Tim, use that broadband.  Check these out.  Go into the folders identified 
as finish line shots.

http://www.egc2005.fi/pictures/kai.htm

Mike, forward the link above, it will get people to the images of Kai, the 
best ones there.


Main site is here.
http://www.egc2005.fi



Mike

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[RCSE] Rare Earth Magnets For Sale

2005-07-11 Thread George Voss
I got tired of paying over $2 for 2 rare earth magnets at Rat Shack.  I
found a place where I could buy them much cheaper and the ones I have are
better in 3 respects, first, they are chrome plated, and second, they are a
little larger but the same thickness.  And finally, they are only a quarter
each.  Size is 6mm dia. x 1.5mm thick, or roughly 1/4 dia x 1/16.  

I have them in sets of 40 for $10 which includes shipping.  I've sold over
1000 of them on the electric board of RCG and I thought the glider guys
might want to hear about them too.  They are great for holding on canopies,
keeping tool box drawers closed, keeping hatches attached etc.  They have
tons of uses.

Please send $10 via Paypal to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I will take a check but I
prefer Paypal.  gv

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Re: [RCSE] Rare Earth Magnets For Sale

2005-07-11 Thread Jimmy Prouty

Hi George,

Sending $20 for 80 sets. :)

I also received my Hawk mold today. :)  Still waiting on Bob for the fuses 
tho.  :(


Been flying at all?  Need to get a sailplane together so I can fly!

Happy flying,

Jimmy

At 04:45 PM 7/11/2005, George Voss wrote:

I got tired of paying over $2 for 2 rare






 earth magnets at Rat Shack.  I
found a place where I could buy them much cheaper and the ones I have are
better in 3 respects, first, they are chrome plated, and second, they are a
little larger but the same thickness.  And finally, they are only a quarter
each.  Size is 6mm dia. x 1.5mm thick, or roughly 1/4 dia x 1/16.

I have them in sets of 40 for $10 which includes shipping.  I've sold over
1000 of them on the electric board of RCG and I thought the glider guys
might want to hear about them too.  They are great for holding on canopies,
keeping tool box drawers closed, keeping hatches attached etc.  They have
tons of uses.

Please send $10 via Paypal to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I will take a check but I
prefer Paypal.  gv

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Re: [RCSE] Rare Earth Magnets For Sale

2005-07-11 Thread Jimmy Prouty

OOPS! :-p


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RE: [RCSE] Rare Earth Magnets For Sale

2005-07-11 Thread John
Try this link for all sizes at a good price.

http://amazingmagnets.com/products.asp?ID=1000-10

Even get then FREE:
http://amazingmagnets.com/products.asp?ID=3000-3400
John


-Original Message-
From: George Voss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 4:46 PM
To: soaring@airage.com
Subject: [RCSE] Rare Earth Magnets For Sale

I got tired of paying over $2 for 2 rare earth magnets at Rat Shack.  I
found a place where I could buy them much cheaper and the ones I have are
better in 3 respects, first, they are chrome plated, and second, they are a
little larger but the same thickness.  And finally, they are only a quarter
each.  Size is 6mm dia. x 1.5mm thick, or roughly 1/4 dia x 1/16.

I have them in sets of 40 for $10 which includes shipping.  I've sold over
1000 of them on the electric board of RCG and I thought the glider guys
might want to hear about them too.  They are great for holding on canopies,
keeping tool box drawers closed, keeping hatches attached etc.  They have
tons of uses.

Please send $10 via Paypal to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I will take a check but I
prefer Paypal.  gv

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RE: [RCSE] 2 meter r hurts.Dayton! - The winners?

2005-07-11 Thread Steve Meyer

Must have been the brown eyes?  :-)

At 07:37 AM 7/11/2005, Douglas, Brent wrote:

PS - first Gordy exposure, he gave me some pretty good pointers on
Saturday, probably earned me an extra 500 points. Something tells me
he's a salesman.



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Re: [RCSE] 2 meter r hurts...THE REST OF THE STORY

2005-07-11 Thread Mike Remus
Here is the real story. Gordy was kind to me for not telling,  but I was
his timer for the day.
I filled his head with useless information about wind shifting, dandelion
fluff, milky clouds, flags that are not moving, cool breezes, warm air,
birds eating bugs, and planes that are circling but not going up until
Gordy was landing.  You know,  talk talk talk all the time he was trying
to think.  Boy, a lot of fun! But it swings both ways. After the 5th
round burial that I dished out, I was up by 200 points.  Till the last
round.  I let Gordy talk me into a flight corse right smack in the middle
of a big sink hole.  I got hosed and Gordy got even.  I ended up in 4th. 
Oh well, a really fun time with Gordy and everyone else.
I love a good 2 M contest

Mike Remus
LOFT Glider Club
Fort Wayne IN
LSF Level 5 #112
Remember; Think small.  Big ideas upset others!

On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 17:08:13 -0400 Jack Iafret [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
 Been there, done that. The DARTS are devious and the air in Dayton
 generally sucks except for the DARTS. How do they do that??
 
 Ex Daytonian
 
 On 7/10/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Had my trusty (more like rusty since it never gets out to fly) 
 Organic
  charged and ready for some ass kickin today in Dayton. 
  Woke up at the local Holiday Inn to sun and calm winds.  Got to 
 the field to
  find sun and wind building. 

  All the big dogs showed up to put the hurtin on me, Don Harris, 
 Paul the
  Siegel, Marc Gellart, Jerry SuperV Shape, and a cast of other 
 rough looking
  types who were obviously ringers brought in to insure that I 
 wouldn't be
  hauling any more Dayton wood away. 

  I tried my own intimidation by showing up pulling a trailer (you 
 know to
  carry all the wood), but in the end it didn't work. 

  It was sooo obvious what was afootFirst they rig the winches 
 to lull me
  into complacency by making sure that I out launced  everyone in my 
 rounds. 
  That part worked, I zoomed well beyond all, and headed out 
 distracted, so
  never noticed that I flew through hundreds of thermals. 

  After 6 rounds of 10minutes each, I had amassed a total time of 
 about 6
  minutes (the total air time out of all 6 rounds) while everyone 
 else seemed
  to get their times. 
  
  First round they had rigged a tree line to extend upward so that I 
 would get
  stuck behind, off field in some beans!  These guys are devious.  
 That put a
  bunch of poke holes in my Organic's Ultracoat and put a wrinkle in 
 the new
  fuse's tailboom. 

  Then they had trimmed bushes up wind so that I had tremendous 
 turbulence in
  the landing zone, which caused a flip over landing. 

  All in all a pretty fun day, and seriously one of the most 
 challenging
  flying sites I have ever flown and easily some of the best thumb 
 wiggling
  soaring I have been privileged to witness. 

  Wish you all could have been hosed like me :-) 
  Gordy
  Columbus, Cincinatti, Louisville, Harrisburg, Rochester, 
 Jamestown
  NDthen Muncie! 
 
 
 -- 
 Jack Iafret
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Re: [RCSE] Icons not selling?

2005-07-11 Thread Steve Meyer

Sooo...  D.O. did sell the Mercedes to get an ICON?  :-)

At 02:25 PM 7/11/2005, d. o. darnell wrote:

Icons not selling?  Could it be the price?  But who am I to talk?  I have
owned two Mercedes but have since come to my senses (kind of) and am Now a
Honda driver.
Bottom line:  The Market rules!  (if the line doesn't break!) :)

D.O.


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[RCSE] Sheldon Smith aka turn around troll

2005-07-11 Thread Doug Barry

Sheldon,

Please ping me.

Doug Barry
Richmond VA


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Re: [RCSE] Icons for sale

2005-07-11 Thread Steve Meyer


I figured if Jim doesn't want them something must be wrong with them.  Jim 
has perfect planes.  I have even seen pictures of his shop, looks like a 
clean room at NASA.


There are so many choices now.  Specially with the strong Euro the other 
planes are getting more expensive.  They must be good at those prices.



Steve Meyer
SOAR
LSF IV


At 06:24 AM 7/8/2005, EXT-McCleave, Howard R wrote:
OK guys, what's going on.  While I normally just read the list and 
occasionally post a for sale item I just have to comment on this strange 
phenomenon.  My flying buddy Jim Porter has posted a couple of Icons, one 
RTF and the other NIB and nobody has snapped them up.  We're talking about 
an F3J version with top quality digital JR gear built by arguably the best 
craftsman I have ever seen.  No glued in servos here, everything on 
mounts.  It's balanced and test flown only and is perfect.  Oh, and by the 
way, you could have it next week, no wait!  Did I mention a basically free 
Bag Lady bag in the deal.  Guess I'm sounding a little like Gordy here but 
come on, somebody buy these planes!  Rants over. Back to work.


Thanks,

Randy McCleave
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Re: [RCSE] 2 meter r hurts...THE REST OF THE STORY

2005-07-11 Thread Steve Meyer
See, you didn't give Gordy a chance to talk.  That would have surely 
generated some thermal activity.


LOL

Steve Meyer
SOAR
LSF IV


At 05:39 PM 7/11/2005, Mike Remus wrote:

I filled his head with useless information about wind shifting, dandelion
fluff, milky clouds, flags that are not moving, cool breezes, warm air,
birds eating bugs, and planes that are circling but not going up until
Gordy was landing.  You know,  talk talk talk all the time he was trying
to think.


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Re: [RCSE] Rare Earth Magnets For Sale

2005-07-11 Thread Steve Meyer
Hint:  If you put them in the nose then you won't slide past the 100 point 
steak.  Just be careful thermalling low over a large steel building or 
steel tower.


BSG

Some good material tonight.

Steve Meyer
SOAR
LSF IV


At 04:45 PM 7/11/2005, George Voss wrote:

I got tired of paying over $2 for 2 rare earth magnets at Rat Shack.  I
found a place where I could buy them much cheaper and the ones I have are
better in 3 respects, first, they are chrome plated, and second, they are a
little larger but the same thickness.  And finally, they are only a quarter
each.  Size is 6mm dia. x 1.5mm thick, or roughly 1/4 dia x 1/16.

I have them in sets of 40 for $10 which includes shipping.  I've sold over
1000 of them on the electric board of RCG and I thought the glider guys
might want to hear about them too.  They are great for holding on canopies,
keeping tool box drawers closed, keeping hatches attached etc.  They have
tons of uses.

Please send $10 via Paypal to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I will take a check but I
prefer Paypal.  gv


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Re: [RCSE] NATS Weather (was Insanity 3.7)

2005-07-11 Thread Steve Meyer

No.  I remember the windless NATS where it was 100 plus.  That's no fun.
Of course the clouds, wind, cold, and rain last year was no fun either.

Somewhere in between would be nice.

The IGES (http://www.iges.org//aboutiges.htmlInstitute of Global 
Environment and Society) and COLA (Center for Ocean-Land-Atmosphere) long 
term forecasts look good. http://wxmaps.org/pix/indgfsb.png


Steven Meyer
SOAR
LSF IV


At 12:21 PM 5/3/2005, Chuck Anderson wrote:

At 06:35 PM 7/1/2005, you wrote:

snmip I'm going to have to make a
way to get some more weight in that thing before
Muncie. If I do that... there won't be any wind at
all...

D


Please hurry.  I hate flying in wind and a windless nats would be wonderful.

Chuck Anderson


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Re: [RCSE] 2 meter r hurts...THE REST OF THE STORY

2005-07-11 Thread RCsoarnut
In a message dated 7/11/05 7:42:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I filled his head with useless information 

 Didn't think that would be neccessary:-


Denny Maize
Polecat Aero
717-789-0146
www.polecataero.com


Re: [RCSE] NATS Weather (was Insanity 3.7)

2005-07-11 Thread James V. Bacus
I remember those Nats... one day I dehydrated myself at F3J, I've never 
felt so sick and hot in the field in my life.  Drinking water and dry 
heaving...  trying to fly and help, didn't want to leave my team, massive 
headache, no fun.  I didn't feel better until a few days later when 2m was 
over...



At 07:08 PM 7/11/2005, Steve Meyer wrote:

No.  I remember the windless NATS where it was 100 plus.  That's no fun.


Jim
Downers Grove, IL
Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR
AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV   R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net

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Re: [RCSE] 2 meter r hurts...THE REST OF THE STORY

2005-07-11 Thread James V. Bacus

At 07:12 PM 7/11/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a
message dated 7/11/05 7:42:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:

I filled his head with useless
information 
 Didn't think that would be neccessary:-

Bada bing!  8-)

Jim
Downers Grove, IL
Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR 
AMA 592537 LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring
blog at
www.jimbacus.net



Re: [RCSE] 2 meter r hurts...THE REST OF THE STORY

2005-07-11 Thread Jim Porter



Isn't that a bit like helping Kelly Bundy graduate from high school?

Jim PorterJohnston Iowa 
USA

"The airplane stays up because it doesn't have the 
time to fall." Orville 
Wright
I filled his head 
with useless information 
Didn't 
  think that would be neccessary:-Denny MaizePolecat 
  Aero717-789-0146www.polecataero.com 



Re: [RCSE] Icons for sale

2005-07-11 Thread Jim Porter
 I figured if Jim doesn't want them something must be wrong with them.

Really, just too many planes.  Something had to go.

 Jim has perfect planes.

These are pretty close to that, especially the untouched F3B one.

 I have even seen pictures of his shop, looks like a clean room at NASA.

That was the shop before the move to Germany.  The new one in Johnston is
not nearly as neat - YET.   8-)

Jim Porter
Johnston Iowa USA

The airplane stays up because it doesn't have the time to fall.
 Orville Wright



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Re: [RCSE] NATS Weather (was Insanity 3.7)

2005-07-11 Thread Jim Carlton

Steve Meyer wrote:


No.  I remember the windless NATS where it was 100 plus.  That's no fun.
Of course the clouds, wind, cold, and rain last year was no fun either.

Somewhere in between would be nice.

Uh, yeah, but ANY time spent at Muncie, away from work and life's 
challenges, with a bunch of my soaring pals, rain or shine is fun time 
for me!!  Hey, I may not fly often and not even sure I'll have anything 
worthy to fly but I'll be there...is it Fri the 22nd yet...are we there 
yet..huh?huh?



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[RCSE] Mark Triebes

2005-07-11 Thread Byron Blakeslee



Anyone have Mark's email address?

Thanks, Byron Blakeslee


RE: [RCSE] Icons for sale

2005-07-11 Thread glide
I wish I could buy one of those Icons but I don't have that kind of money to
put into the hobby at the moment.  Any way, I would be afraid to toss that
kind of plane out at Maluhia because I know that I would put a scratch on it
(at the very least) on the very first landing.

I'll stick to my cheap stuff and gas bags.

Aloha to all on RCSE,

Al Battad - WH6VE
AMA #506981

-Original Message-
From: Jim Porter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 2:42 PM
To: McCleave, Howard R; Steve Meyer
Cc: soaring@airage.com
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Icons for sale

 I figured if Jim doesn't want them something must be wrong with them.

Really, just too many planes.  Something had to go.

 Jim has perfect planes.

These are pretty close to that, especially the untouched F3B one.

 I have even seen pictures of his shop, looks like a clean room at NASA.

That was the shop before the move to Germany.  The new one in Johnston is
not nearly as neat - YET.   8-)

Jim Porter
Johnston Iowa USA

The airplane stays up because it doesn't have the time to fall.
 Orville Wright



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Re: [RCSE] Mark Triebes

2005-07-11 Thread JJ MJ



google found him 
 http://acmeflyingmachines.homestead.com/

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Byron 
  Blakeslee 
  To: Soaring@airage.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 7:48 PM
  Subject: [RCSE] Mark Triebes
  
  Anyone have Mark's email address?
  
  Thanks, Byron 
Blakeslee


[RCSE] F3J Icon SOLD, want to trade something for the F3B Icon?

2005-07-11 Thread Jim Porter
F3J Icon has been sold.

F3B,  65 ounces, bare
* New in bag
* yellow overall with purple lower surfaces and striped wing tips
* battery 5 x CP1700
* Hoopes harness
* standard ballast set
* Bag Lady bag, yellow exterior, purple interior

 $1700 plus actual cost of shipping, CONUS only

Satisfaction guaranteed.  You don't like what you get, pay the return
shipping and I'll refund the purchase price of the plane - assuming no
damage.

I'll consider reasonable offers or trades.  Perhaps a scale sailplane you've
NOT started.  Does anyone have a Mark Wilkerson Scepter in new or excellent
condition?

Contact me directly if you're interested.

regards,

Jim Porter
Johnston IA

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[RCSE] Alternative to the Icon

2005-07-11 Thread Harley Michaelis
I've nothing but the greatest respect for the Icon and the first time I saw 
one fly, it reminded me of the way the big Genie moves, grooves and handles.


I can well afford a quiver of Icons, and although I enjoy this activity more 
than anything I can still do, I find nothing about it that justifies that 
kind of outlay, although I'm not questioning that the airframe is worth the 
money.


Frankly, I'd rather give the money away to someone needy I'm interested in 
and just build another big Genie or now the Icon-sized Genie Pro for $300 or 
so. These are strong airframes that can provide an equally exciting level of 
performance.


Building either one has been made easier with a composite fuse having become 
available. This adds about $100 to the total cost, but $400 is a real 
bargain for airframe with that level of capability.


In the Genie pages at http://genie.rchomepage.com/ under the heading The 
Composite Fuselage Option, there is a pic of the Genie Pro with that 
fuselage.


Sure, doing a bagged wing involves a learning curve, but follow 
instructions, do one and you'll know how. Between Phil's video on bagging 
and File 3 in the Genie pages the way is shown.


In a couple of months, the building season will be on us again. It's a good 
time to look into what's involved in the Genie line and seriously consider 
doing one for a fall/winter project.







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Re: [RCSE] What about South Carolina, Charleston area?

2005-07-11 Thread Greg Smith
Brent,

I found a spot not that far from Charleston a couple of years ago and listed
some info about it at:

http://www.slopeflyer.com/artman/publish/article_71.shtml

The wind was not great the day I was there but it looked promising.


-- 
Greg Smith
Slope Soaring Resource
http://www.slopeflyer.com


 From: Douglas, Brent [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:21:13 -0400
 To: Soaring@airage.com
 Subject: [RCSE] What about South Carolina, Charleston area?
 
 We're going to Folly Island in a couple weeks, any sloping sites nearby
 - general Charleston area?
 
 Last trip to Outer Banks let me slope off the dunes facing the ocean
 each evening, but it was fairly tame.  Anything better in this area?
 
 Thanks!
 Brent
 
 
 
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