RE: [RCSE] RE:Fall Fest Requencies? Larry Taylor - CVRC
Hey Guys, You are vicious! It's like a feeding frenzie of sharks in a bloodbath! To let you know, the question was simple and quite fair. I do not envy the job Larry is doing, no one ever realizes the efforts and the thankless job. I did it for a LSF tournament and back then there were no computers to use like nowadays. However, I would like to know if my registration had been received. A few years back I sent it in and it never got to Larry until 2 months AFTER the contest. So when it sounded like we would know sometime mid-late August, that is nice. I followed the comments here about two weeks ago, when someone asked then, and I waited. So now at 2 weeksbeforeit would be nice to know if I should cancel my reservations or just risk it to come. And yes, one year I showed up and was asked to change by the CD the night before. Luckily, I was able to do so. So I do not think I was asking too much, I was just calmly asking. With people entering 2 or 3 classes when one was advertised is OK, I don't blame the contest officials for adding people as it helps the overall coffers, but does this hold up the notice? Are the second and third classes an issue with scheduling?Just wondering. Chris Adams Original Message Subject: Re: [RCSE] RE:Fall Fest Requencies? Larry Taylor - CVRCFrom: George Gillburg [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Thu, September 15, 2005 7:02 pmTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED], soaring@airage.comAt 05:32 PM 9/15/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:BTW, Has anyone know of the frequencies we are on??It's 2 weeks away, and I don't want to be changing them in the hotel before the meet.thanks,ChrisAs I understand it, Larry is having to do all the data entry himself to get the entry info ready for flight group assignment. The flight groups are assigned by two volunteers from the SSJSS who do it so all the pilots are separated from their timers. As soon as we get the info, we'll get it sorted out and back to Larry. If they had cut off the entries on August 1 like they used to do, this would all be done by now.RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] T/D flying for $$$$$
Maybe, but we took home all the rest of the hardware, and did so several times Original Message Subject: RE: [RCSE] T/D flying for $From: Chuck Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Thu, September 15, 2005 6:54 pmTo: soaring@airage.comAt 08:06 PM 9/15/2005, you wrote:Don't give up on the West!Long ago, in 1974, the East coast complained that no-one from the West Coast came to the Soar Nats in Chicago.So in 1974, we had a contingent from the San Fernando Valley Silent Flyers(in LA) and the area, make the pilgramage.We got into alot of trouble when the Trophy display table items were moved to our banquet table in mass.So, I don't give up on anybody.Chris AdamsYes but I beat most of the west coast fliers that year with a first in standard class precision duration and 8th overall.Chuck Anderson RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] CVRC is still taking Entries for the Fall Soaring Festival
We are still taking entries. We have several channels that are full. Channels 14,16,19,21,26,30,31,38,50,52 are max'd out. 15,20,46,57 have 1 slot left. Entry forms are at the Club Web site and PayPal is available. To use PayPal for your Second or Third Entry. Use the Club PayPal account [EMAIL PROTECTED] and make a note what its for at $35 for the additional Classes. Entries keep coming in every day. Any Question, you can E-mail me or use the forum here. I do get back to you not always on the forum. If you call me do it after 7pm my number is on the Entry Form at the Club Web Site listed below. Larry Taylor KF6JBG CD for the Visalia Fall Soaring Festival 2005 Oct 1st 2nd Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club: www.cvrcsoaring.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Duel Solenoids Save Planes
I just saw a $1000 bird bite the dust a couple weeks ago. The solenoid stuck and ripped the plane out of the pilots hand and cart wheeled toward the turn around. Two solenoids are not the full answer though. You will need a device to detect a bad solenoid before it will bite you. I have two sound led boxes in stock ready to send you one. At $35 + insurance $1.60 it is a small price compared to the plane it saves. The sound is real sensitive and will warn you of intermittent solenoids as well. The bright LEDs tell you which solenoid. I take paypal, checks, and MO RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Foameron memory lane
The skinny years ago was that the Anabat was an awful design not worth trying to improve The Whirlwind and Visionary were similar foamie type planes from that time period that actually worked well. The Foameron was a terrific plane! I had three of them one stock and fast one with a 7037 foil that was a disappointment, and one that I modified to be lighter but retained the RG14 foil I called it my floateron. While being light it'd really scoot with ballast There's a picture of me flying it on my web site at: http://www.billswingle.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=5pos=24 Joe was great guy I've also got a pic of him with an experimental forward swept wingeron he made called the sweepy on my site. He had long hair back when it was taken don't know about now: http://www.billswingle.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=6posd=3 Joe's not too widely known but he's famous to me and many others. I loved the Foameron and his HLG called the Bob. Genius designs that were made with the simplest of materials. Cheap materials, easily constructed yet his kits performed well. Genius! Plus, he's a talented writer wroting for Hotboat. Like so many, he got tired of the low pay and stopped making kits. I'm a fan. Bill Swingle Janesville,CA From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Soaring@airage.com Date: Thursday, September 15, 2005 5:06 PM Subject: [RCSE] Foameron I have a Foameron sitting here for many years and decided to build it. I remember there were some updates or modifications done. Does anyone know where Joe Galletti is? or where the mods were written up. I think it was in in old soaring digest. Secondingly i have an Anabat and it is a terrible disapointment / flyer!! I assume this is a trimming function. I think I have to have very limited throws on the aerilons. Maybe it need alot of wind speed. Does it work with wind less than 10 mph? Dr Bill Snow Cleveland Ohio btw, for those traveling with a slope plane, the site in downtown cleveland is back operational. The dept of engineers took all their equipment away. They cleaned all the trees and brush from the slope. It needs a north wind, but there is about a 50-100 foot smooth decline to the water line. Lot of parasail guys use the slope. It is Edgewater Park. Beautiful site. Today the wind was perfect coming from the north at 22 mph. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Foameron
i have this sheet If anybody wants it. -Original Message- From: Winch [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Soaring@airage.com Soaring@airage.com Date: Thursday, September 15, 2005 7:16 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] Foameron Bill, There was a typed sheet that came with mine titled General Updates. Is that what you were after? Phil in Vancouver ps Tried scanning, but old photocopy paper isn't very legible -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: September 15, 2005 5:06 PM To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Foameron I have a Foameron sitting here for many years and decided to build it. I remember there were some updates or modifications done. Does anyone know where Joe Galletti is? or where the mods were written up. I think it was in in old soaring digest. Secondingly i have an Anabat and it is a terrible disapointment / flyer!! I assume this is a trimming function. I think I have to have very limited throws on the aerilons. Maybe it need alot of wind speed. Does it work with wind less than 10 mph? Dr Bill Snow Cleveland Ohio btw, for those traveling with a slope plane, the site in downtown cleveland is back operational. The dept of engineers took all their equipment away. They cleaned all the trees and brush from the slope. It needs a north wind, but there is about a 50-100 foot smooth decline to the water line. Lot of parasail guys use the slope. It is Edgewater Park. Beautiful site. Today the wind was perfect coming from the north at 22 mph. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Foameron memory lane
On Fri, 16 Sep 2005, Bill Swingle wrote: The skinny years ago was that the Anabat was an awful design not worth trying to improve The Whirlwind and Visionary were similar foamie type planes from that time period that actually worked well. Hey now, Personaly I liked the Anabat. Sure it wasn't fast and didn't penatrate well either, but it was very aerobatic at slow speeds. I had a blast playing with them, high roll rate quick loops and surprisingly hard to break too. They just flew very differently from most slopers. The fact that Jef was a friend has nothing to do with my opinion;-) RobII ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Erica FrankRob CarterII [EMAIL PROTECTED] Everybody understands Mickey mouse. Few understand Herman Hesse. Hardly anyone understands Albert Einstein. And nobody understands Emperor Norten -Malaclypse the younger- RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] travel boxes
Chris,
Thanks for passing this tip on, I still have a flying Windfree.
You CA guys didn't win all the trophies in Chicago, I still remember the
1979 LSF Speed Runs in Chicago you and I fought so hard to win. Take care
...
Ray Hayes
http://www.skybench.com
Home of Wood Crafters
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Subject: RE: [RCSE] travel boxes
As a suggestion, go to Home Depot, or local Hardware store, and get one of
those Cardboard Cement post pouring tubes.
Fairly inexpensive, and all you have to do is make sure the diameter fits
the wing chord or tailfin, and you can cut some plywood ends and screw them
in as inserts.Kinda a one use item, but might work. Mark Smith , and
thatis along time ago, used stovepipe exhausts to do the same thing for his
old windfrees.
BTW, I use the tubes in my 4-runner to side my wings and fuses in when I
am on the road. Cheap, and you can pile stuff on top while still not
crushing the plane parts.
Chris
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Subject: [RCSE] travel boxes
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To: Soaring@airage.com
I am going to fly to cape cod for business but somehow i want to take a
sloper with me.
What works on airplanes? Some mag article wrote that a local boxes would
do it cheap.
Wrongs, not for a 2 meter sailplane. They just dont do it after 15 calls
made.One firm in chicago would do it for about $50 becasue they have a
cadcam system to cut the cardboard.
Im not looking for alum cases yet. The skiboard carriers are expensive.
Any ideas helpful
Dr Bill Snow
Cleveland Ohio
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[RCSE] 2005 F3J Team Selection Pictures
Amy Pool sent me a bunch of pictures for the event. I have placed them on the website for your enjoyment. http://www.rmsadenver.com/ts-2005/ts-2005.htm Thanks Amy Jim Jim Monaco President - Rocky Mountain Soaring Association Denver, CO http://www.rmsadenver.com
[RCSE] Super V 100 wings for sale
Title: Super V 100 wings for sale I have a set of old, but new 7037 Super V 100 wings. These were built by the master himself, Mark Levoe. The wings are light for their size due to the type of lay-up he used, but they are certainly strong enough for a spirited ZOOM launch. The tops are white and the bottoms are sort of a dyed red. They look sort of transparent red. Personally Id paint the bottoms but thats certainly up to the new owner. There are a few minor handling marks, but the wings are plenty strong! $300 shipped. George
[RCSE] Foameron
I actually still have my Foameron, but never heard of an update sheet. I'd be interested in seeing what's on it. Is it on-line somewhere? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Super V 100 wings for sale
Title: Super V 100 wings for sale Ive got a Condor fuse that Ill throw in with the wings for an additional $75. All you would need to do is make a set of stabs and you have yourself a good entry level full house sailplane or a great primary or backup ship. From: George Voss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 12:54 PM To: RCSE Subject: [RCSE] Super V 100 wings for sale I have a set of old, but new 7037 Super V 100 wings. These were built by the master himself, Mark Levoe. The wings are light for their size due to the type of lay-up he used, but they are certainly strong enough for a spirited ZOOM launch. The tops are white and the bottoms are sort of a dyed red. They look sort of transparent red. Personally Id paint the bottoms but thats certainly up to the new owner. There are a few minor handling marks, but the wings are plenty strong! $300 shipped. George
Re: [RCSE] Super V 100 wings for sale
Would that make it a Super Con? :) Reminds me of the Compfusicon. George Voss wrote: I’ve got a Condor fuse that I’ll throw in with the wings for an additional $75. All you would need to do is make a set of stabs and you have yourself a good entry level full house sailplane or a great primary or backup ship. -- Ben Wilson Web Developer/Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] cell: 502.836.8551 home: 502.290.0624 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Bob HLG
Soaring@airage.com wrote: From: Bill Swingle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] Foameron memory lane Joe's not too widely known but he's famous to me and many others. I loved the Foameron and his HLG called the Bob. Genius designs that were made with the simplest of materials. Cheap materials, easily constructed yet his kits performed well. Genius! AMEN! Bob was a great little ship for it's time. Really worked, rugged enough, easy to build, easy to fix. Great entry for javelin flying. There's an old review in RCSD, somewhere around 1998 I think. Got some pictures in my 'Bob' file. Clear tape over extruded foam for the wing - who'da thunk it! Where did the 'Torque and Recoil Club' moniker come from? - Dave R RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Re: Bob HLG
I did the review for one of the magazines. It might have been RCSD. Bob was a very cool little plane. It was perfect for light slope work and entry level HLG. Thinking about it, if it would have had a hardwood LE on the wing, it would have been even better. The foam LE took a beating from things as little as small weeds. Hand catching made the plane fly well, longer. I had one of their shirts, which explained the torque and recoil club motto. Basically anything that has to do with a ball is un-cool. Things that cause forces on the body, i.e. shooting, race cars, motorcycles, etc were cool. I wish I still had the shirt! George -Original Message- From: David Register [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 16, 2005 1:46 PM To: Soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] Re: Bob HLG Soaring@airage.com wrote: From: Bill Swingle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], soaring@airage.com Subject: Re: [RCSE] Foameron memory lane Joe's not too widely known but he's famous to me and many others. I loved the Foameron and his HLG called the Bob. Genius designs that were made with the simplest of materials. Cheap materials, easily constructed yet his kits performed well. Genius! AMEN! Bob was a great little ship for it's time. Really worked, rugged enough, easy to build, easy to fix. Great entry for javelin flying. There's an old review in RCSD, somewhere around 1998 I think. Got some pictures in my 'Bob' file. Clear tape over extruded foam for the wing - who'da thunk it! Where did the 'Torque and Recoil Club' moniker come from? - Dave R RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] FS - Muller Escape Vtail - mint
Only used a few times on a grass field - not a mark on it. Yellow with red bottoms. Voltz Micro-maxx's on Ailerons and Flaps, JR's in fuse and tips. Includes Custom Quilted bags $1200, buyer pays shipping. Matt
Re: [RCSE] Foameron
Don't worry about it Bill. Phil sent me an on-line snapshot! Thanks though! At 01:33 PM 9/16/2005, you wrote: no, not online but I'll send it to you. Bill Swingle -Original Message- From: Les Grammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com soaring@airage.com Date: Friday, September 16, 2005 11:07 AM Subject: [RCSE] Foameron I actually still have my Foameron, but never heard of an update sheet. I'd be interested in seeing what's on it. Is it on-line somewhere? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Retriever Line Connection to Winch Line
The retriever that out club has been using has a setup that uses a flattened ring to connect the retriever line to the winch line, acting as a slider. I've personally been using a hard connection of dual swivels on the retriever line to a ring on the winch line with about 3 feet to the chute and have had good results, but another user thought that his plane was near stall just after release and thinks it may be related to the hard connection instead of the slider. Thoughts, experience? Tom KoszutaWestern New York Sailplane and Electric FlyersBuffalo, NY
Re: [RCSE] Torque and Recoil
Where did the 'Torque and Recoil Club' moniker come from? The only statement I remember from that time was because anything that produces torque or recoil is cool . Bill Swingle RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: 2005 F3J Team Selection Pictures
Lots of good moments there Amy. thanks for sharing Airtronics in the shorts?: http://www.rmsadenver.com/ts-2005/img_5751.html This guy will not throw for me in a couple of weeks... http://www.rmsadenver.com/ts-2005/img_5750.html Hilsen (Regards) Jojo www.grini.no Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2005 11:09:36 -0600 From: Jim Monaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'ListServer Soaring' SOARING@AIRAGE.COM Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED] com' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 2005 F3J Team Selection Pictures Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --=_NextPart_000_0013_01C5BAAF.2B094C80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Amy Pool sent me a bunch of pictures for the event. I have placed them on the website for your enjoyment. http://www.rmsadenver.com/ts-2005/ts-2005.htm Thanks Amy. Jim RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Turnin a Foameron into a Floateron
In case any of the three guys who have said they still have a Foameron are interested here's my written description of how I turned a foameron into a Floateron. I wrote this around late '96, I was pretty green so forgive my ignorance. Hey les you want to sell your Foameron kit? I just found some spare arrow shafts from my old Foameron. --Floateron- I built my Floateron because my stock Foameron is heavy. With the lead in the nose and the vinyl covering and the standard servos the stocker weighs quite a bit. The weight is 30oz. This puts the wing loading at 11. Higher than I would like. It takes good wind to fly. I feel that lightness is very important. Perhaps too much but every one needs a hangup. I thus decided to make one light. Here's what I did: 1. Called Joe and asked for a longer nose fuselage. He had to cut it in two pieces because of the limits of his cutter but was able to make a fuse with a roughly 4 longer nose. It was as long as he could make it with his cutter I believe. Damn nice guy that Joe. 1a. The longer nose will wrinkle badly without extra support. Ask for some longer fuse doublers. Then add some extra wood infront of the doublers so that wood extends to within about 2 of the nose. 2. Get some rudder material from Joe and cut a larger rudder. I have yet to do this so it's not real important but my feeling is that a rudder roughly 10-20% larger would be useful. 3. Use micro servo for elevator. 3a. Move the elevator servo as far forward possible. I didn't but should have. The elev push rod seems heavy consider replacing it. I didn't. 4. MAYBE consider using micro for wing. It's a durability issue but a micro saves about a half ounce (I think) and reduces wingloading about 0.18oz. 5. DON'T use the vinyl. It's heavy. Supremely cool stuff and great for visibility at distance or when your really carving tight, ugly aerobatics (am I the only guy who does this?). Also helpful in the durability department. Also, it's fully UV resistant while the tape isn't. But it's heavy so don't use it. 6. Move the anchor point of the ball joint on the wings rearward by 1/4. Be sure to maintain the same distance from the wing spar. The reason is to add some differential. I am NOT done experimenting with this so start with 1/4 and go from there. A little goes a long way. 7. CG on the LE of the wing spar maybe a 1/16 in front of it. Put the battery (270mAH assumed) as far forward as possible. Put the receiver a quarter inch behind it, then the switch. More than a quarter inch would provide much better crash protection. So it's your choice. Remember adding tail weight is easy and requires little actual weight so shoot for a little nose heavy. I tried for perfect and ended up needing two quarters on the nose (damn). (seems like all my planes have a coin taped somewhere) 8. Reduce the throws. Especially the wings. Use about 60% for the wings and oh 70% or so for the elev. USE DUAL RATE RADIO and switch back and forth Frequently. The reduced rate is to make it easier to fly smoothly. Not really necessary but because of reduced weight the roll rate is poor until you get some airspeed. 9. Tape the wings with the tape edges touching not overlapping. Tape weight seems to add up. I have two sets of wings that should be the same but one set is actually 1oz heavier. The only thing I can guess is the tape.?. 10. Glue the root caps on to the wings. The tape allows rotational movement which can worsen with use. 11. I don't remember the incidence I use in the wings (4.3 degrees, perhaps) but it looks like a lot (huge!) to the eye so keep this in mind when setting up. The goal is to slow it down. With this plane, min sink occurs just above stall. 12. I increased the incidence of the horizontal stab about 1-2 degrees. This is a personal preference issue and makes no difference in flight but I think is esthetically(how is this spelled?) important with larger fuse and bigger nose. 13. The plane is short coupled when stock. I get the feeling Joe flys like his hair is on fire. ;-) I don't know if my mods make it even more so but it seems so. I like it! 14. The RG14 wing does great. The 7037 isn't bad when it's in its element. For all out floating the 7037 is better but RARELY is it worth it. For ANYTHING other than all out floating the RG14 is my choice. Rolls are rough with the 7037 and inverted flight is even harder. IF you want all out floating get a different plane. 15. By lessening the wing incidence the plane will fly in surprisingly strong winds and has Very wide flyability window. Bottomline: The floateron weighs(these numbers ARE accurate) 22.1oz with the RG14 and 23.1oz with the 7037. A micro wing servo would shave about a half oz easily. Micro receiver may be helpful I don't have one. It floats with most any sloper. Then when the wind picks up it will do good aerobatics and be a bunch of fun. If the wind is good, I add the 4oz rod and it rocks. Bill Swingle RCSE-List
[RCSE] keeping kits for no reason
Any one have an old kit they're keeping around for no useful reason? Les, if you'd care to sell your old Foameron kit I'd like to buy it. Sure makes me feel stupid for sending the last kit I had to some guy in South Africa Bill Swingle Janesville, CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Another foamie wingeron
In case anybody might be interested, here's some links to some video and info about an EPP wingeron I designed called the Epperon. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=416440 (Links to some video) http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157940highlight=epperon + (Design thread.) http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=161286highlight=epperon + (Build thread) There are several other Epperon related threads on the R/C groups website that can be found by doing a search. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 9/16/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] NorCalF3F Racing 4th Sunday PUSHED OUT
Hi Guys, This time of the year coast conditions have known to be sketchy. I now plan to use a 2 day weekend window to host races during this time period. I'll be shooting for the 4th Sunday like always but if Saturday looks better, I'll go that way. From Sept. 22 thru Sunday, the 25th there will be a surf board and wind surfing contest. This contest happens every 5 yrs so it will be a huge event . Bud, the owner of Big Creek Lumber has decided to open the airport gate so spectators will have additional parking. Bud also has express concern with us flying over the spectators heads as they access the beach. So with the chances of no parking and an all day of the spectators trampling through our LZ and disrupting our flying zone, I have decided to push out the race to the next weekend, October 1st, or 2nd. On Wednesday the 28th of Sept. I'll let you know the day where the venue will be. See Ya, Rich RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Cheers OVSS SOAR Chicago travellers
Cheers to all who are either here already, are on the way, or about to leave soon. The weather is going to be perfect this weekend, the sod farm is mowed, we have many strong winches to line up, and we are ready to have fun and fly some seeded MoM, without skegs. I have a new Weber Genesis Gold grill ready to fire up for a BBQ at my house Sat. Night on the deck. Many alpha male BBQ chefs will be in attendance (from far away as Texas), I plan to stand back and just watch them cook stuff and brag. ;-) Should be a good time, please join Rae and I at our house after the contest. I will pass out some directions at the field. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Duel Solenoids Save Planes
Cal Posthuma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I take paypal, checks, and MO ... and I take the warm fuzzy feeling of having invented it. I'm looking forward to hearing a report someday of how a solenoid safety buzzer, whether home-built or bought from Cal, saved a glider from being strained through a turn-around. I know it's bound to happen sooner or later. Mike -- _ \__|__/ (O) RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] [RCSC] Stratos SL V-tail for sale
FOR SALE Stratos SL -- Absolutely beautiful condition, Volz MicroMax X servos throughout. V-tail, white with red bottoms, custom wing, fuse, and tail bags. Airtronics 92778 Dual Conversion Narrow-band receiver. 1000 mA battery pack. This plane won 7th at the 2004 F3J junior World Championships in Canada. It was built by Lenny Keer. Will take full-on two-man tow. This plane has beeen flown less than two dozen times. $1150 plus shipping. Reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more information, call 303-440-4211. Joseph Newcomb _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Anybody use torque system for spoiler return?
If so what success/failure did you experience. How did you do it? Stan RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Ice Plant Stain Removal from Molded Sloper Wings....HOW?
Todd Larsen wrote to me and asked : I made the mist ake of NOT cleaning my bird after flying into some of our lovely Ice Plant I am wondering if there is a solution to removing "ice plant" stains from our beautiful sailplane finishes? I have no idea what the fix is to this one, anyone out there know FOR SURE what he should use for removing the sap stains from this plant from his molded wings? Please reply directly to Todd. He don't need no guesses, but if you have a solid idea, post it back to Todd at [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Gordy Home at last
[RCSE] SWSA I need help get ahold of one of your members
I'm trying to get ahold of Doug McIntosh I have no phone # I found his E-mail address on your club Web Page but I have had no reply. I need his Entry Info, Channel Number,Class,AMA number!!! He just Paid his entry fee and that was it. Larry Taylor KF6JBG CD for the Visalia Fall Soaring Festival 2005 Oct 1st 2nd Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club: www.cvrcsoaring.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] CVRC FSF Pilots to Channel is listed
I have just posted my list of entries at the Club Web Site. Click on Fall Fest, than Click on Misc. Contest Info. This list will have changes Dailey. If I have not talked to you, than the list\ is correct for you. Please if I have spelled some ones name wrong please let me know. Larry Taylor KF6JBG CD for the Visalia Fall Soaring Festival 2005 Oct 1st 2nd Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Club: www.cvrcsoaring.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
