Re: [RCSE] Question regarding 2.4GHz..Answer :-)
SkyKing here. So far we do not have a solution for Spectrum 2.4GHz systems. They all employ a fail safe which cannot be turned off. This defeats our locator. The Futaba 2.4GHz 6 channel 2.4 GHz allows us to use the gear channel on/off toggle switch to turn our locator on or off without the need for turning the TX off. I have never tested the Hobbico lost model device but it might work with your 2.4 GHz TX. It triggers on when the device does not detect any stick movement for a period of time. But, I'm not certain if it will work since I have never tested one. We will have a unit at some point but at the moment it is a back burner project. Ed SkyKing RC Products, LLC - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 4:04 AM Subject: [RCSE] Question regarding 2.4GHz..Answer :-) Greg and Gordy, I am likewise a fan of these little beeper/finder/battery monitors. This one from Sky King RC Products is my favorite. http://www.skykingrcproducts.com/accessories/lostmodel/lost_rc_model_alarm.html This is the only one I hav been able to get to work with both FM and PCM. But I have not been able to get it to work with 2.4 GHz. Spektrum receivers. Gordy, you say you can make it work. Have you actually tried? If you have been successful, perhaps you can give us a step by step. The procedure I used for PCM did not work for 2.4 GHz Spektrum. Ed Anderson Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:57:12 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], soaring@airage.com Subject: Question regarding 2.4GHz..Answer :-) Message-ID: ---1206417432 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is the same as with PCM, all you have to do is program a failsafe function to the channel you have your plane finder plugged into to fire the response. So if you are in Aux 4 for instance, program full travel the other direction, that way when the TX is turned off simulating a lost signal your device will trigger. Gordy In a message dated 3/24/2008 9:44:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In the past on my 72MHz radios I have used a device in my planes which beeps when it loses the signal from the transmitter. This has been handy to find a plane in the woods and to signal me when the receiver is bad(saved one plane when the receiver was bad) This device plugs into a spare channel. The problem is that I have switched to the JR9303 2.4GHz radio but with its failsafe this device always gets a signal so it doesn't beep when I turn the transmitter off. Anybody experienced this? Is there something new that will work with the 2.4GHZ radios? Greg No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.0/1341 - Release Date: 3/24/2008 3:03 PM -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1901 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Ava Center Wing Panel
I'm looking for a good center wing panel for an Ava. Ed -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1891 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] JR Aerotow dates
Have the dates for the JR Aerotow been announced. If yes, what are they? Ed -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1562 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Becker antenna adapter for Royal Evo
Please remind me how to contact the person that sells the Becker Antenna adapter. Thanks, Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] BAD VENDOR REPORT
Well, I guess it's my turn also. I too have had nothing but good service, good products and reasonable prices from this company. I've also had very good service and pricing from www.cheapbatterypacks.com I'm not sure that your slam on this vendor was reasonable. Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Les Garber
Does anyone know how to contact Les. I tried his number in Duluth but it was disconnected. Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Help to sign up
I'm trying to subscribe using a new e-mail address but I can't seem to find the secret code that lets me do that. I am sending my request to: soaring-request@airage.com I'm not placing a subject in the subject line but I have tried the following in the body of the message: 1. subscribe 2. subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Neither of these were accepted so I can't figure out what I need to do differently. Any help will be appreciated. Ed
[RCSE] thanks for the help
Thanks to everyone that got me going in the right direction. The problem was I had HTML turned on (whatever that is) I never did understand the difference between plain text, rich text and HTML but don't get me started with what I don't know or understand. Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] MM Glidertech??????
Does anyone know if Merrill is still in business. His phone is not answered and his answering machine is turned off. Ed
[RCSE] VMC Retriever for sale
I'm selling my VMC Retriever. It's in perfect working condition and includes an optionalhand held push button to activate the retriever function. You may also use the foot release if you don't want to use the button. This would be perfect if you were flying alone. I may even have an instructional video. The VMC was the most sought after retriever but production stopped because of the high cost to produce this device. $450 plus $20 for insured shipping. Ed
[RCSE] Sport Winch for sale
I'm selling a little used, custom built sport winch. This unit has plenty of punch and can easily launch any of my 3 meter sailplanes. It has a very effective brake system and is extremely rugged. It is bearing supported on both ends. The side plate has a beautiful engraving of a sailplane. This is not only a great winch it's also great looking. It comes with a Little Big Winch turn-around and chute. $550 plus $25 for packing and shipping to the lower 48 states. Photos upon request. Ed
[RCSE] Multiplex Royal Evo 9 for sale
Selling a new 9 channel Royal Evo with Synth module, charger, owners manual, Becker antenna and Smiley Rubber antenna and of course the stock antenna. This unit was charged and that's all. Never used. Mint condition. $400 delivered to your door in the lower 48's - Hawaii or Alaska add $10 for insured delivery. If paying by PayPal please add their 3% service fee which would amount to $12.00. Ed
[RCSE] Multiplex Royal Evo 9 price reduction
I should have checked the current price for this TX before posting. I see the prices have come down, way down from when I purchased this TX. Therefore I have reduced the price to $320 (ouch that hurts) shipped to the lower 48's. Add 3% for PayPal. Ed
Re: [RCSE] Durable Paint?
I think you will find that the industrial company that made the old KB line is the same company that produces Klass Cote. All the components in the paint are the same. It smells like KB, it goes on like KB and it is as good as KB because that's what it was/is. As for airbrushing etc. If you are preparing a fuselage you do not need a spray outfit. You can mix KlassKote primer with mircroballoons to make a thin paste like substance that can be BRUSHED on to a bare fiberglass fuselage. When it cures it will look like hell but one you sand it you will be left with a fuselage that has the pin holes filled. You can then BRUSH on another application of primer without the microballoons and sand that back to a smooth ready to paint surface. This is by far my favorite paint when I can paint outdoors. It's smell does not go well with indoor painting,however. Needless to say, wear a proper paint mask. This stuff is dangerous to breathe as most paints are including Krylon. Ed - Original Message - From: George Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Jeff Steifel' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'RCSE' soaring@airage.com Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:17 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] Durable Paint? Imron is supposed to be painted in a sealed room with more than normal exhaust fans, and a fresh air respirator. It's REALLY bad stuff as Jeff points out. Funny isn't it, all the really good stuff will kill you. Now we get watered down stuff, like Krylon and have to consider it a 'good' paint. Go with Rustoleum or Klass Kote. Me, I stocked up on KB as soon as I heard it was going off the market. I've got just enough to last me until I'm done with this hobby in my 80's or 90's. ;-) gv -Original Message- From: Jeff Steifel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 1:12 PM To: George Voss Cc: 'RCSE' Subject: Re: [RCSE] Durable Paint? Worse than a carcinogen is that Imron is additive and will destroy your liver. It never purges from your system. I have heard about guys that died after spraying IMRON too many times without a respirator.. Always spray with at least a basic volatile orgranic filter respirator or a pump. I happen to have both.. The pump style of respirator is also excellent for 2 part systems... I agree about Krylon being too soft... white nearly turns black by the end of a couple of flying sessions and can't be cleaned off. George Voss wrote: Frankly, I hate Krylon. It scratches easily and isn't very durable in my opinion. For the best paint, use Imron. The problem with it of course is that it's a carcinogen. It's VERY bad stuff. Next on the list would be the old KB if you can find some. Klass Kote is the best paint currently available. It's expensive and you'll need at least an airbrush, but a small spray gun is better. As for surface prep, I sand or scrape the joint line and wet sand the entire nose cone with 600 or 1000 grit sandpaper wet. Use 3M fine line masking tape. It's a type of plastic and it stretches around corners fairly well. If you are shooting over white and you are using a dark canopy color, you can shoot a dust coat, wait 15 minutes, shoot a flow coat and remove the tape while the paint is still wet. If not, use white primer over the canopy area and then shoot the color. Let the painted nose cone sit in a heated area for 3-4 days untouched. Sand the edges of the canopy so they blend in with the nose cone. I put 3M pinstripe tape around the paint line and then clear coat the entire nose cone. I've got some photos of a finished nose cone if you want to see one. If you want a rattle can finish, use Rustoleum. Be aware that you will need to allow the paint to dry in a heated area for at least 3 days before handling or you will get fingerprints. Other than that, use the same method as above except heat the spray can with hot tap water prior to spraying. It will keep the paint from shooting blobs out of the nozzle. Also, if maximum finish points are desired, use a new can of paint. Sometimes old, used cans will shoot blobs out, even when heated. gv -Original Message- From: Ben Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 7:33 AM To: RCSE Subject: Re: [RCSE] Durable Paint? Take a look at Phil Barnes' post on Mantis Fuselage Finishing here: http://forums.flyesl.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=44 Photos and such as well... Sheldon-YNT uDesign wrote: I'm just finishing my new Soprano (finally) and would like some advice on what brand paint I can use to spray on as a canopy on the nosecone...Something that is reasonably durable, that won't mark-up too easily or readily scuff off. Anyone have any tips on either the paint to be used and surface prep? T'would be appreciated... TIA, Sheldon~YNT RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and
Re: [RCSE] DAW TG-3
Why not go to the source. Me. No, I am not producing the TG3 but I am working on a 100 poly trainer that Mike Remus designed. With all the other designs I currently am working on this one won't be out there until the end of the year. Ed - Original Message - From: Bill Swingle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSE soaring@airage.com Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] DAW TG-3 Speaking of DAW: Is Ed stocking the TG-3? Bill Swingle Janesville, CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.3/298 - Release Date: 3/30/2006 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] kits for sale
Ace Quasoar - can be built as 123" poly with flaps, straight wing full house. Beautiful fuselage, clear canopy,white foam wing cores, wood and assorted hardware. NIB. $150+shipping+3% if paying by paypal. This is an absolutely gorgeous model even by today's standards. Aveox Embat - electric sport airplane $50 + the other costs listed above. Gulp - DS model has optional carbon kit for elevons $75 ++ Aerofoam Corsair - EPP model with pre-built spar to assure easy construction of gull wing - Coroplast tail group - builds to nice flying slope plane. $45++ Matney Models - AJ2 T Tail quarter Midget racer for Electric or glow. This is a short kit consisting of a beautiful fiberglass fuselage, white foam wing cores and plans. See it at http://www.matneymodels.com/qm.html $100++ DCU Dragonfly - Beautiful kit - wing is built and joined, torque rods installed for center mounted servo, ailerons built and fitted ready for hinging - tail is built and covered with orange ultracote but you can strip and recover in any color - beautiful fuselage and fiberglass canopy. A very nice kit and great flyer $100++ 2 meter sized stab - European made, obeechi covered foam cores with brass tubes installed for full flying stab - very high quality work originally used for Tekoa kit but can be used on any 2 meter sized plane requiring a full flying stab. $25++ I have received inquiries on some of these kits but no confirmation or payment, therefore, you want it, you pay for it, you get it. I do not consider inquiries as having any prior standing unless you clearly indicated you wantany of these items. The snooze/lose rules apply. Ed
Re: [RCSE] Comments wanted
George, I think you answered your own question. Yes, many of the How To videos are a bit dry but it is the information that is being conveyed that most everyone is looking for. Therefore, don't make the video a stand up routine. Just present the information is a clear and succinct fashion. The close up camera work, lighting and steady camera work are far more important to me. Ed - Original Message - From: George Voss [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'RCSE (RCSE)' soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 12:13 PM Subject: [RCSE] Comments wanted I'm sure most of us have seen how to videos on RC soaring and a plethora of other subjects. The most common response I hear is that the person showing us how to do stuff is boring. I usually overlook that fact when I'm watching because I'm most interested in the material being shown, not the personality showing it. My question is this: How can RC How To video personalities make the video more interesting? My wife an I have come up with a couple of ideas; having trivia questions, showing one-page comics like the dummy books have, telling humorous jokes or short stories and several other things. My concern with each of them is that when a person is watching the video for the 10th time, the jokes and such get 'old. Please send me your opinions direct at [EMAIL PROTECTED], or feel free to post them to RCSE. gv No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.5/284 - Release Date: 3/17/2006 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Prism fuselage molds
The prism fuselage molds have been sold pending receipt of funds. If funds do not arrive by the end of next week I will contact the next person on the list of interested buyer, however, I do believe the sale will be completed. Ed
[RCSE] Prism fuselage mold 4 sale
I'm selling one of Fuseworks original Prism fuselage mold. The Prism was an open class glider with a 7037 shoulder mounted wing and a "T" tail. This is a beautiful fuselage with a slip on nose cone. Included in the sale is a first rate fuselage mold and two nose cone molds. These are production quality molds with a lot of life left. I have produced four fuselages with them and they are beautiful. Naturally, if you did not want a "T" tail you could easily produce a conventional tail by clipping off the very top of the fin and adding a balsa top. The cost of this mold is $250 plus shipping. Photo available. Ed
[RCSE] Kit for sale
NIB Bob Sealy Pulsar. 123" span, slip on nose cone, I believe it is a 3021 section, triple taper wing, white bead foam, spar with joiner tube installed by Sealy. This is a very nice kit and a nice flying model. $200 delivered anywhere in the lower 48 states. Ed
[RCSE] Sailplane kits for sail
All kits are NIB. Shipping is additional. All shipping should fall between $10 and $20 depending upon the particular kit. All will be shipped by Fedex Ground insured. Payment by money order or PayPal. For PayPal add 3% to cover the charges. I ship once a week on Fridays. Alcyone-fiberglass fuselage-open class $195 Larry Jolly Pantera $150 SkyBench Osprey - fiberglass fuselage 2 meter $140 Culpepper Callisto - T Tail -fiberglass fuselage - 99.5" span -foam core wings $150 RNR Nova fuselage only - never used but has some easy to fix blemishes $85 Leading Edge Gliders P40 Warhawk 60" EPP PSS - preshaped fuselage - $100 Leading Edge Gliders ME109 60" EPP PSS - preshaped fuselage - $100 Leading Edge Gliders One Design 60" EPP - $65 Quasoar - Fiberglass fuselage - Foam core wings 123" span $150 Paragon $95 Embat electric $50 More as I dig through my warehouse to see what I have
Re: [RCSE] Model Aviation
Jim, I don't think you are correct in your assertion that the reason for limited space being devoted to soaring is the lack of columnist. You are kidding aren't you, or haven't you seen Darwin's by line. If you haven't you aren't even up to speed on this topic. Sometimes opinion before knowledge gets foot in mouth. I have spoken to Bob Hunt. He tells a completely different version than yours. Somehow I think he probably knows the reason. He told me that it was the fact that soaring represents a much smaller segment of the hobby than some of the other activities that are reported on. Additionally, soaring is segmented further by the different disciplines. Thermal duration, slope, electric and on and on. About the only thing I think you had right was that Bob Hunt does not single out soaring for special treatment either pro or con. Yes, I do agree that it SEEMS like control line maybe gets more attention than it deserves based upon participation but since I don't have any concrete numbers at hand I'll trust that Bob wants to do right by all segments. Check out Darwin's column. I think you'll see that he's doing a great job. He had a hard act to follow with Mike Garton as his predecessor. Ed - Original Message - From: Jim McCarthy To: soaring@airage.com ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 8:54 AM Subject: [RCSE] Model Aviation Why is it that just because there is no soaring column we as the "community" feel someone is snubbing us? Get real. The actual reason is that we currently don't have a columnist for soaring. Why don't you step up and put it together? Dave Garwood does the slope soaring column which usually appears every other month but currently there is not a columnist writing about our interests. I can also assure you that Bob Hunt is pro soaring. Although most of his life has been spent with controline I have spoken to him on several occasions and I can assure you he is pro modeling whatever the discipline. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/272 - Release Date: 3/1/2006
[RCSE] Vacuum Pump for sale
I tried posting some photos of this set up but I'm guessing that you can't do that and the original post with the photos is stuck in the filter somewhere in cyberspace. So, if you don't mind I'll list the specifics and if you want photos I can e-mail them to you. Im selling a great vacuum pump set-up for bagging. It includes a used but in excellent condition Gast model DOL 101 - AA pump, manifold, adjustable vacuum pressure valve, new vacuum pressure gauge, exhaust muffler, intake filter and hose barb. This pump pulls 25 hg (at sea level) , which is more than sufficient for any bagging project.It is quiet, capable of handling several bags at one time, runs cool and is designed to operate 24/7.This is the same type of pump that many production shops use. It will likely outlast any one of us so think of it as an heirloom. OK thats hyperbole.Youll need some 3/16 or ¼ vinyl tubing for your vacuum lines. This material is available at home stores and hardware stores for about $.10 per foot. You also need the usual assortment of things like vacuum bags, bag seals, bag hose fittings etc. All these items are available from the Composite Store or Aerospace Composite Material.$180 + $15 shipping anywhere in the lower 48 states. Hawaii and Alaska are slightly more. I accept PayPal or a money order. PayPal to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or mail to: Skyking RC Products, LLC Box 24745 Minneapolis, MN 55424
Re: [RCSE] easy spoiler rig for bagged wing.
David, a great idea. I'm going to use this on a project that I have been delaying. Nicely done. The only thing I would change is I would sleeve the threaded portion of the screw so that the threads don't cut into the wood slot. Thanks for sharing that. Ed - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSE Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 12:50 PM Subject: [RCSE] easy spoiler rig for bagged wing. just thought i would pass this on. came up with a easy way to to rig these in a bagged wing. sorry for the big pic, my picture manager is expired and I'm not bright enough to know how to install a new one. (I must be mostly Amish!) :-) http://www.git-r-built.com/newsmgr/templates/grbNews.asp?articleid=29zoneid=1 Dave Hauchwww.git-r-built.com No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.0/249 - Release Date: 2/2/2006
Re: [RCSE] Receivers, modules, vacuum pumps and other items for sale
Title: Receivers, modules, vacuum pumps and other items for sale George, what function does the reservoir serve if you don't use a check valve or switch. All you need is the pump, a filter and a manifold to attach the hoses and a vacuum relief valve to adjust the vacuum pressure. Without the adjustability for vacuum pressure you can easily crush white bead foam.. Ed - Original Message - From: George Voss To: RCSE Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 10:50 AM Subject: [RCSE] Receivers, modules, vacuum pumps and other items for sale Vacuum Pump, home assembled Gast Vacuum Pump with a PVC Pipe reservoir. The pump is designed to run continuously so I dont even use the adjustable vacuum switch check valve and an automotive vacuum gauge. Its ready to vacuum bag wings at $175.00 (2) Airtronics 92777 receivers $50.00 each (2) Hitec Super Slim receivers $50.00 each (4) Airtronics 92756 receivers $35.00 each (Old Airtronics connectors) (4) Stylus RX modules (1) ch 36, (1) ch 43, (2) ch 44, $48 each (1) Lorus stop watch $85.00 (1) Almost a Virgin Luckenbach "Pretty Mantis" fuse with a sliding tow hook installed (hence the almost virgin) $100.00 Sold to Regis (1) 1/4 scale multiplex Grob 103 kit new in box $600.00 No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.23/243 - Release Date: 1/27/2006
[RCSE] Bud Elder
Can anyone tell me how to contact Bud Elder by phone or e-mail. Ed
Re: [RCSE] Some Thoughts on AMA
Tim, take off your flame suit. I think you covered the topic very well and I am in agreement with your thoughts. I've spoken to the editor of the AMA magazine. It was clear to me that he felt that the soaring community was a tiny part of our hobby. He still seems to think that control line flying is the end all of the hobby. Sad to see Mike Garton leave and that soaring has been significantly reduced in the magazine. The lack of coverage of the NATS is further evidence that the AMA is out of touch with what is happening within our hobby. Ed - Original Message - From: Tim Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSE Soaring soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 2:18 PM Subject: [RCSE] Some Thoughts on AMA All the comments I have read on this exchange over the last two days bring to mind some ideas that have been boiling in my mind for a couple of years regarding the Academy of Model Aeronautics and how it is organized. First, a little background regarding me. I have been a model airplane hobbyist for forty-eight years. My father and his brother were modelers before me. Like many others in the RC soaring branch of the hobby, I have built and flown FF, CL, RC gas, and electric models over the years, but have been pretty much exclusive to RC soaring for the last fifteen years. I fly with the Soaring League of North Texas (SLNT) in the Dallas/ Ft Worth area and am an AMA contest director. I think you could say I am an active contest flyer. Holding thirty-one club contests a year, SLNT may be the most active competition club in the country. There are thirteen unlimited sailplane contests including two separate contest days of the Texas National Tournament (TNT) each year. We will complete a total of fifteen handlaunch/DLG contests this year. There were also three RES events including one at TNT. I have flown in all but about three of these events over the past five or six years and have been CD of all the handlaunch events for the last six years. Attendance at these competitions has ranged from about eight to forty-five entrants with the average being between fifteen and twenty per event. Except for this year, SLNT has obtained AMA sanctions for about fourteen of these contests each year for at least as many years as I have been involved. My issue with the organization of AMA is that AMA is governed by an executive council made up of elected regional vice presidents. These officers are elected by AMA members within a geographic area regardless of their interest in the various disciplines of the hobby. For the most part geographical areas are irrelevent to the issues affecting AMA. It is clear to me that this system is doing a poor job of representing and dealing with the needs of a large portion of the hobby, including soaring. Model aviation has evolved into a diverse set of disciplines with many AMA members specializing in just one or a small subset of these disciplines. There do not seem to be many pylon racers who fly sailplanes, helicopters, indoor free flight, and control line carrier as well. How effectively are they represented by their regional vice president? I believe that this system should be replaced by a realignment of the governing board along the lines of special interest groups representing the modeling disciplines. Each special interest group should function as a separate division of the organization with its own funding and staff. The executive council should be made up of the heads of these groups with some form of proportional representation based on the number of members in each group. Members having interests in multiple special interest groups should be given the opportunity to join multiple groups paying dues reflecting these multiple interests. The current organization of AMA is a legacy of the state of the sport in the 1930's and 1940's when the academy was formed. Just making a model fly was a major achievement in those days. With rare exceptions, free flight was the only choice. Competition was primarily segmented along the lines of the age of the flyer and how the free flight models were powered. Junior, Senior, and Open flyers flew glider, rubber, or gas free flight models in AMA events. The interests of modelers in Virginia were different from those in California and representation was needed primarily to address those regional interests. Today, age group competition is almost non-existent. Flyers travel the whole country to fly in AMA events within their special interests. There are at least eight different segments of RC soaring each having their own needs regarding safety, insurance, flying sites, air space, competition regulation, radio frequency control, and launch equipment issues. These segments include electric, flat land thermal, slope, dynamic, hand launch, aero-tow, F3J, and F3B. AMA's regional vice presidents, for the most part, have no awareness let alone
Re: [RCSE] Model Aviation Editor's reply
I am not at all surprised by the response your recevied from Hunt. I too have spoken with him and received a similar reaction. From his point of view, we hardly exist. Further, he seems to think that his personal interests trump those of his membership. I do realize that someone has to make decisions that will not always please everyone but Hunt displays a rather arragont attitude that does not wear well with me. I guess I thought we were their customers not their serfs. Maybe if we attached a control line to our gliders, slope models and DS planes Hunt would have a more receptive attitude. Ed Original Message - From: Jim Deck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSE soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 3:17 PM Subject: [RCSE] Model Aviation Editor's reply Fellow forum members, I normally don't post private responses in this forum but, by posting this portion of Bob Hunt's (MA Editor) reply to my comments on the 2005 NATS MA issue, I can lower my blood pressure a few points. The portion follows: I appreciate your comments, but please understand that this was not a Nats Issue. There was a Nats overview report by Mark (Sorry you didn't like it), and that's all we intend to do in the future. We published 271 pages of Nats reports on a daily basis on the web, and that's how we have decided to cover the Nats from here on. I'm a competitor, too, and at first I didn't like the idea either. Now I find it to be the only reasonable way to produce proper coverage and in a timely manner. The competitor is now in the minority in AMA. In fact, less than 5 percent of our membership compete in any manner at all. We simply cannot justify devoting all of 1/12 of our yearly editorial pages to just one meet - even if it is the Nats. The daily reporting concept gives up to the minute news and it will continue to be how we report on the Nats. Hopefully next year's Nats overview in Model Aviation will be written from a more acceptable perspective. We are trying to adjust our magazine coverage to reflect the actual membership and their interests. Tough job... One wonders if we'll see more soaring content in future issues? Probably not until we can figure out how to hang our sailplanes by the nose ala' the aircraft on this month's cover. Let's see now - if competition is a minority then competitive soaring must be ... Thanks for letting me vent - I feel much better now, Jim Deck RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] vacuum pump system for sale
I've been selling vacuum pump set ups to modelers for almost 12 years. This one might be the nicest yet. The system includes a diaphragm pump that is really quiet. The pump has a built in fan for cooling but in addition there is a computer type whisper fan in the enclosure. (Photo available - email request) Everything is contained in a metal cabinet with a carry handle on top, a large 2.5" vacuum gauge that reads from 0 - 30 IN Hg, a vacuum relief valve that makes adjusting vacuum levels from 1" Hg all the up to 20" Hg which is more than sufficient for any bagging process. There is a hose barb on the front panel and an on/off push button switch. These systems sell for over $450 new. This is a unit with very low usage and is very clean. $165 plus $15 for Fedex Ground insured shipping anywhere in the lower 48 states. Ed
[RCSE] vacuum system sold
Wow! The vacuum pump system has been sold pending receipt of funds. Ed
[RCSE] Ernie Prichard
Here's the last e-mail address I have for Ernie. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I tried sending an e-mail to him but my mail was bounced. Does anyone have Ernie's telephone number or a current e-mail address. Ed
Re: [RCSE] Ernie Prichard
Thanks to Fred and all others that replied. Ed - Original Message - From: Fred A. Sheplavy To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 10:47 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] Ernie Prichard From Multiplex USA web site Ernie Pritchard1005 N. Aviator ParkwayPayson, AZ 85541[EMAIL PROTECTED](928) 474-2528 Fred -Original Message-From: Ed Berris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 11:07 PMTo: soaring@airage.comSubject: [RCSE] Ernie Prichard Here's the last e-mail address I have for Ernie. [EMAIL PROTECTED] I tried sending an e-mail to him but my mail was bounced. Does anyone have Ernie's telephone number or a current e-mail address. Ed No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.9/116 - Release Date: 9/30/2005
[RCSE] Jack Caldwell
Does anyone out in soaring land know if Jack Caldwell, the designer of the Freedom and other designs, is still around. Ifhe is, I'd like to talk to him about some of his older designs. I'd like to get a phone number if anyone has it. Ed
[RCSE] Rick Powers of RPVI
Does anyone know how to contact Rick Powers? He used to operate RPVI and sold kits and EPP foam. He left the business awhile ago but I thought he still might be around. A phone number, e-mail or address would do the trick. I gave away one of his 72" version Predator kits to a friend but did not have the building directions. I'm trying to come up with a set if I can. Ed
[RCSE] Wanted Freedom XL kit NIB
I found the wood kit but would really like the Freedom XL. that's the Freedom with a Fiberglass fuselage and foam wings. Do you have one in a closet or under your bench that you would like to sell? I'm a buyer if you have one. Ed
[RCSE] Freedom Kit Wanted
If you have an old Freedom slope kit (the full kit not the ARF version) I'd like to buy it. Ed
Re: [RCSE] How to mount a v tail
The Shrike, Elf and Shredder are all set to 0/0 just like Brian's ship. Ed - Original Message - From: Brian Courtice [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 6:11 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] How to mount a v tail Try making a block that will sit on top of the v-tail at the root. (Angle the bottom of the block to match the v-tail angle.) Now you can set a small bubble level on the block to measure the v-tail incidence. Raise the tail until the bubble is perfectly centered, and then use a meter to set the wing incidence. I’ve never flown a Snipe, but I doubt you’ll need that much positive incidence. I’d start around 1 degree I think. (Enough to be sure it isn’t negative.) My own fast wingerons are set up at 0-0, or very close to it. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.3/106 - Release Date: 9/19/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.3/106 - Release Date: 9/19/2005 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.1/104 - Release Date: 9/16/2005 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Warning to all LSF Level II and above
Good Lord! If Gordy achieves his level 5 we'll never hear the end of it. If you think he's hard to live with now just wait until he acomplishes all the tasks of this demanding challenge. I think I'll be able to hear him bragging all the way to Minneapolis. I've got to leave now to get sound proofing supplies for my house. Maybe if I work hard I'll be able to seal out all the noise that I know will follow. Oh ya, one more thing. GOOD LUCK, GORDY. Ed - Original Message - From: Jim Deck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSE soaring@airage.com Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 4:14 PM Subject: [RCSE] Warning to all LSF Level II and above Attention all LSF Level II through V: I have just processed Mr. Gordy Stahl's Level IV voucher and his Level V voucher is in the mail. As a result, you may find yourself approached by this gentleman and perhaps invited to join him for some soaring. Be warned that he only wants you to stand by for two hours while he completes the thermal task. Be really suspicious if he invites you slope soaring as he will expect you to stand by for 8 hours while he completes the slope task!! Good luck to you, Gordy. Jim DeckLSF Secretary RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] EPP Trainers
I thought I'd chime in here to bring some clarity and new information that some will find useful. I have the rights to produce DAW kits in the United States. My web site is: www.skykingrcproducts.com You will find many of the DAW kits are currently available including the Schweitzer 1-26 2 meter as well as a 60 aileron version and a 60 polyhedral version. Soon I will be reintroducing the 48 warbird series and the mini-warbirds as well. But the good news is that we are developing a 100 polyhedral EPP trainer that we think will eclipse the Highlander in flight performance. This is a proven design concept originally developed to train new pilots by Mike Remus and Darwin Garrison. Both have extensive design and flying experience. Mike has achieved his LSF level 5 and Darwin is not only an experienced pilot but also an engineer and kit maker. I am awaiting CAD drawings so we are not just starting but along the way to getting this design into production. I'll keep you posted by way of the soaring exchange as we get closer to production and shipping. In the mean time, if you are looking for a fantastic slope trainer check out the 1-26's on our web page. These ships have taught hundreds of pilot aspirants to fly. Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Loren Blinde
I need to reach Loren Blinde of Lincoln Nebraska but do not have his phone number or e-mail. I'd sure appreciate receiving either. TIA, Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Dodson Pivot Plus 4 sale
I'm selling a NIB Dodson Pivot Plus kit. This is a twist wing design that was popular a few years back. $200 shipped anywhere in the lower 48 states. Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Berg Receivers
Berg receivers have been taken over by Castle Creations. The original production was done in Eastern Europe. There were some quality problems that will be addressed by Castle. Castle is also redesigning and downsizing some of the receivers. They are quite behind schedule at the moment but once they catch up I am confident that the quality will be on par with other Castle products. Ed - Original Message - From: TJB To: Lee Cox ; soaring mail page Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Berg Receivers Berg sort of went out of production and is supposedly selling the business. Rc direct can provide the info. I have a couple of the micro stamp 4 left in stock. Tom TG32 Mount View DrAfton, VA 22920 540 943-3356fax 943-4178 - Original Message - From: Lee Cox To: soaring mail page Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 9:45 PM Subject: [RCSE] Berg Receivers What happened to 6 ch.Berg receivers. When I check to web the only site that shows them for sale is in JapanLeeCox-Nevada, U.S.A.[EMAIL PROTECTED] __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [RCSE] Had a chance to try the Freq Checker this weekend
Gordy, if I'm not mistaken the Multiplex Evo with scanner module will do this and more. Ed - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 3:52 PM Subject: [RCSE] Had a chance to try the Freq Checker this weekend Since the external antenna is back ordered, I only had the unit itself. The advertised range is 'up to 300 feet' but in fact that is an accurate statement...it is 'possible' for it to work at that but everything has to be just right. Its real range is about 50' on the field with cars, tents, trees in the its line of sight. It works GREAT and everyone should own one, but be clear, it is not for checking the general flying site for competing signals...at least not without the external antenna. There was a guy about half way to the turn arounds on flying an electric and it did not read it, and I was at my truck on the parking area and about 100' away there were TX's on and I was not reading it. Inspite of all that, pretty much everyone there is ordering one, very tiny and easy to use before you turn on anything else and a nice device to verify your TX synth module dial is reading a 6 not an 8 :-) Gordy
Re: [RCSE] Had a chance to try the Freq Checker this weekend
Gordy, I'm sure the Hobbico unit is everything you say it is but I guess you just aren't familiar with the Royal Evo scanner option. First, it doesn't cost a few hundred. It's about $100. Second, it not only scans all the frequencies but it also won't allow you to transmit if one of the 50 frequencies is occupied. I guess the Hobbico unit would be good for anyone that doesn't have an Evo with the Scanner unit which would probably be most of the market. Ed - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2005 8:24 PM Subject: [RCSE] Had a chance to try the Freq Checker this weekend Gordy, if I'm not mistaken the Multiplex Evo with scanner module will do this and more. Thanks for theEvoinfo, but I was posting information about the Hobbico Frequency Checker. Evo owners will be happy to know that they don't need one, if they have paid a few hundred for the Evo option :-) The Frequency Checker is a cool and tiny 'tool' that everyone should have including Evo owners with the option installed Fits in any flight kit and with the flick of a switch gives the looker an at a glance view of all 50 freqs busy or open...'nearby'. If anyone else has tried one with an external antenna hooked up, post us your findings. Pretty sure you could find an antenna to fit at Radio Shack. Might need a little mod to plug in but its just a single point connection. Likely a piece of coat hanger would do it :-) Gordy
[RCSE] Looking for George's Models
I realize that this company has long ago left the scene but I am trying to contact the owner. Does anyone know who he is and how to reach him? Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Looking for McLean's Models
Ok, here's another one. Does anyone remember who was the man behind McLean's Models and have contact information? Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] McCleans Models
Thanks to all of those that provided me the information I was looking for. Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Fred Weaver's Phone number
Can someone send me Fred's phone number or address so that I may contact him. Thanks, Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Looking for Mark Allen
I've lost contact with Mark Allen. I have something that belongs to him that I'd like to return rather than toss. Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] trouble with balsa dust
I realize this is not a medical forum, however, I suspect that others of you have had some experience with reactions to balsa dust. I seem to have developed quite a sensitivity to balsa dust. With just a small exposure it triggers asthma like symptoms including a nagging cough, wheezing, a tightness in my chest and sometime dizziness or severe cold like symptoms. I wonder if others have had a similar experience and what they are doing so that they can continue working with balsa without becoming ill. I know that a good quality dust mask will be a must. I have seldom worn on in the past but I can see that I will need to now. Miserable in Minnesota, Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Balsa Dust
Thanks to all of you that contacted me regarding this issue. It seems that I'm far from a Lone Ranger. I'll be seeing my doctor this week I hope. If a good dust mask and sanding outdoors doesn't help I may be in a real bind when it comes to working with balsa again. ED RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Klass Kote VS the others
Harley, I have a feeling you have not priced other industrial paints recently and that might be why the sticker shock. I built a street rod several years ago and used one of PPG's automotive urethane paints. Last year I went to an automotive paint store to buy some paint to cover a pedal car I am building for my grandson. The materials I used were no longer available due to pollution or hazardous materials laws but what was available was so expensive I almost fainted when the clerk told me I had over $300 worth of materials. I've found Klass Kote to be the same as the old KB product. In fact, I think it is possible that the same company that produces this material for Klass Kote also produced it for KB. As for price..I think it is well worth the cost. Krylon just doesn't even come close to this stuff for durability and depth of sheen. Yes, I do use a gun and yes it does take more effort than shaking a can but I really like this stuff. Their primer is hands down the very best primer I have ever used. Here's a trick I learned a long time ago when I could still get KB white primer. I would mix microballons and epoxy primer to a very thick cream consistency. I would apply it with a brush. This would fill all the pin holes, scratches and other imperfections in a glass fuselage. After it cured I sanded most of it off leaving a nearly ready to paint surface. No doubt many guys would just spray on their color coat at that point but I like to shoot one more thin coat of primer before the color coat. I have used the waterbased finish mixed with talc to fill the weave in fiberglass and found it to work quite well but my favorite is still the Klass Kote products. If I'm painting up a sloper that I know is going to look rough after a few flights I'll use Rustoleum or Krylon but if I want the finish to last I'll make the effort to use Klass Kote. For what it's worth, Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Barry Kennedy and Kennedy Composites
There isn't just one good plane available at the moment. Yes, I know the Ava is a great plane but if you are having such a tough time why not be open to other good, high performance planes like the Ava. Have you considered the Soprano from Isthmus Models? It's a beauty and it's winning contests. It's a newer model so maybe you have never seen one before. Here's the URL:http://www.isthmusmodels.com/pages/soprano.html Mark Miller offers this model. I can tell you from first hand experience that he is a pleasure to do business with. Dave Edmunson sells a model similar to the Ava. It's called the Ukrainian Buzzard. I don't have Dave's web URL but his e-mail address is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dave is an old free flight champ who helped develop the Buzzard. Both of these guys will respond quickly to your needs. Frankly, I've done business with Barry Kennedy before and always found him to be helpful and reliable but since it sounds like Traun is about to see the top of his head blow clean off his shoulders I thought this might be of interest. One thing though that Traun and other yelpers ought to know. This is a hobby. It is not life or death. The people that supply these models to you are modelers themselves. They have jobs, families and other time constraints. You are not dealing with large companies with a staff to help. The bitchers and complainers are the reason that many of these people throw in the towel and say; "to hell with this business. I can't stand dealing with the jerks. I'm closing up shop." It only takes a few impatient, immature, short tempered, whiners to screw things up. Give Barry a break why don't you and if you can't do that cancel your order and get something else but please save your anger for when it's really important. Life is too short. Of course that's just my opinion. - Original Message - From: GRW To: 'Soaring Digest' Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 3:28 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] Barry Kennedy and Kennedy Composites I had the same problem as Tuan Le'and I wrote Barry a couple of times just recently. Finally I said if it hasn't ship just cancel the order. I had the plane 2 days later. Here's the real problem, Barry has the market cornered on the AVA. From what I can tell it's the superior or one of the superior planes for RES. Unfortunately you can't get it from anyone else, trust me I tried since I have a very good friend that is one of Vladimir's distributors. This to me is tough when you want a specific plane and only one resource. If that resource is busy or out of stock you are hosed and have to wait. Anyway, I got my AVA and it's a beautiful plane but I was a bit irritated to say the least at the time frame it took me to get it. Oh and yes it was in stock when I ordered it. Anywaythings happen good luck Tuan Le' I'm sure you will like the plane. --Glenn W.Tri-Cities, Wa Do you Yahoo!?Make Yahoo! your home page
Re: [RCSE] Vacuum bags
Al, there is no such thing as a never fail bag but a continuously running vacuum pump can make up for all but the largest leaks. Ed - Original Message - From: Al Scidmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 12:26 PM Subject: [RCSE] Vacuum bags Yesterday I decided to bag the latest version of my DLG. When I got the bag set up I found that it leaked...again. Seems like every time that I start to do some bagging I have to spend an inordinate amount of time to get a non-leaking bag. You know, the kind where you can leave the pump off after pulling the vacuum. Many of you guys (and dolls?) have been to this dance before, I am sure. So, I thought to ask for advice... what you do in this regard? How do you create a never-fail bag? What tricks work for you? I hope that this doesn't start a thread as contentious as the one on the new JR frequency synthesized transmitter modules did. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Dave's I-26 2m
Martin, perhaps you didn't know that my company is producing all of the DAW kits including the 1-26 2 meter. Check out my web site for full details. www.skykingrcproducts.com. Ed - Original Message - From: Falarski, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 12:20 PM Subject: [RCSE] Dave's I-26 2m I am looking to buy a Dave's I-26 2m in reasonably good condition, NIB would be great. If you have one that you would like to sell please contact me. Thanks, Mart Falarski RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Re: [soaring] harbor freight vaacum pump, any use?
I was interested in your reason for using a reservoir, relay, vacuum switch etc. You stated the reason was so that the pump does not have to run all the time. Be aware that most vacuum pumps are actually designed for 24/7 operation cycles. The constant starting and stopping associated with the type of system you are talking about actually subjects your pump to much more wear rather than less. In addition, a system that uses more parts is also subject to more reasons for failure. A bad switch or contact can cause your valuable lay-up to be ruined if failure should occur during the initial stages of curing. A pump that runs continuously is far less prone to failure. That's been my experience. You will also find that the people that use this type of equipment the most will use a vacuum pump without all the other plumbing. See Phil Barnes' vacuum bagging video and you'll see how he has his shop set up. No switch or reservoir. It's less expensive, less parts required and less likely to fail. My two cents worth. Ed - Original Message - From: Andrew E Mileski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 1:51 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Re: [soaring] harbor freight vaacum pump, any use? Tord Eriksson wrote: On Sunday 06 February 2005 15.54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just my gut feeling: Yes, yes, yes! But add a vacuum switch, of course! ... and an airtank to act as a vauum resevoir so the pump doesn't have to run continuously. FWIW, I recently updated my page on adding an electronic vacuum switch by making it simpler via using a solid-state relay (I got three new-in-box 25 Amp ones for $20 USD from an Ebay auction). My mechanical switch page needs an update too (gonna simplify it for the electronics shy), but it works; I used it before I bought a pair of digital electronic switches from Ebay. http://isoar.ca/~andrewm/rc/vacswitch/ -- Andrew E. Mileski Ottawa, Canada RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Lawyers VS the Kit bidness
Well, guys, since I started this thread I'd like to suggest we retire it now. I never anticipated so much reaction. Naturally, I did expect to hear from Gordy but then Gordy can always be expected to let me have it and anyone else whose name he sees just after having one of his PMS spells. Gordy, take eleven Midol tablets and call me in the morning. How about letting this thread die a natural death? Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Sagitta XC and Fiberglass fuselage 4 sale
I'm selling a NIB Airtronics issued Sagitta XC kit and a Bob Sealy Sagitta XC fuselage. The kit cost is $275 plus actual shipping and the fuselage is $100 if purchased with the kit or $125 if purchased alone. Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Lawyers are killing the kit business
I found this article on www.instapundit.com. It tells what lawyers are doing that can hurt small model makers. Don Stackhouse already found out first hand what the impact of these shakedown lawsuits) are all about but I thought you all might want to read this. Here it is: Lawyers Lay Waste to Military Models Industry by James Dunnigan February 3, 2005 Discussion Board on this DLS topic For over half a century, kits have been sold that enable military history buffs to assemble scale models of military ships, aircraft and vehicles. But that era is coming to an end, as the manufacturers of the original equipment, especially aircraft, are demanding high royalties (up to $40 per kit) from the kit makers. Since most of these kits sell in small quantities (10-20,000) and are priced at $15-30 (for plastic kits, wooden ones are about twice as much), tacking on the royalty just prices the kit out of the market. Popular land vehicles, which would sell a lot of kits, are missing as well. The new U.S. Army Stryker armored vehicles are not available because of royalty requirements. Even World War II aircraft kits are being hit with royalty demands. These royalty demands grew out of the idea that corporations should maximize intellectual property income. Models of a companys products are considered the intellectual property of the owner of a vehicle design. Some intellectual property lawyers have pointed out that many of these demands are on weak legal ground, but the kit manufacturers are often small companies that cannot afford years of litigation to settle this contention. In the past, the model kits were considered free advertising, and good public relations, by the defense firms. The kit manufacturers comprise a small industry, and the aircraft manufacturers will probably not even notice if they put many of the model vendors out of business. Some model companies will survive by only selling models of older (like World War I), or otherwise no royalty items (Nazi German aircraft) and ships. But the aircraft were always the bulk of sales, and their loss will cripple many of the kit makers. Some of the vehicle manufacturers have noted the problem, and have lowered their demands to a more reasonable level (a few percent of the wholesale price of the kits). I guess model kit makers will have to rename their models to avoid these bottom feeding lawyers. Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Fw: [RCSE] Lawyers are killing the kit business
- Original Message - From: Ed Berris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tom H. Nagel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Lawyers are killing the kit business Tom, my post was not intended as a screed against all lawyers. My son, my father and many of my relatives and friends are attorneys, however, with first hand experience with these law suites, I know that there are too many lawyers attempting to secure royalty payments for questionable patent and trademark claims. They are shake down artists not driven by bean counters but rather are small time, marginally successful attorney's looking for a way to eek out a living. I'm sure you are not in this group. Ed - Original Message - From: Tom H. Nagel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ed Berris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: RCSE soaring@airage.com Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Lawyers are killing the kit business Actually, Ed, and fellow flyers, it is not the evil lawyers doing this. It is the evil bean counters and the corporate dilberts who seek to maximize profit at any expense. A certain linguistically challenged President is also currently attacking lawyers accusing them (us) of junk lawsuits and causing a malpractice insurance crisis. Wrong again. Same real bad guys, the bean counters and the corporate bandits. Tom H. Nagel Columbus, OH - Original Message - From: Ed Berris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com; Jack Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 3:47 PM Subject: [RCSE] Lawyers are killing the kit business I found this article on www.instapundit.com. It tells what lawyers are doing that can hurt small model makers. Don Stackhouse already found out first hand what the impact of these shakedown lawsuits) are all about but I thought you all might want to read this. Here it is: Lawyers Lay Waste to Military Models Industry by James Dunnigan February 3, 2005 Discussion Board on this DLS topic For over half a century, kits have been sold that enable military histor y buffs to assemble scale models of military ships, aircraft and vehicles. But that era is coming to an end, as the manufacturers of the original equipment, especially aircraft, are demanding high royalties (up to $40 per kit) from the kit makers. Since most of these kits sell in small quantities (10-20,000) and are priced at $15-30 (for plastic kits, wooden ones are about twice as much), tacking on the royalty just prices the kit out of the market. Popular land vehicles, which would sell a lot of kits, are missing as well. The new U.S. Army Stryker armored vehicles are not available because of royalty requirements. Even World War II aircraft kits are being hit with royalty demands. These royalty demands grew out of the idea that corporations should maximize intellectual property income. Models of a companys products are considered the intellectual property of the owner of a vehicle design. Some intellectual property lawyers have pointed out that many of these demands are on weak legal ground, but the kit manufacturers are often small companies that cannot afford years of litigation to settle this contention. In the past, the model kits were considered free advertising, and good public relations, by the defense firms. The kit manufacturers comprise a small industry, and the aircraft manufacturers will probably not even notice if they put many of the model vendors out of business. Some model companies will survive by only selling models of older (like World War I), or otherwise no royalty items (Nazi German aircraft) and ships. But the aircraft were always the bulk of sales, and their loss will cripple many of the kit makers. Some of the vehicle manufacturers have noted the problem, and have lowered their demands to a more reasonable level (a few percent of the wholesale price of the kits). I guess model kit makers will have to rename their models to avoid these bottom feeding lawyers. Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please
[RCSE] Hitec Eclipse 4 Sale
I'm selling a Hitec Eclipse TX, Charger, Manual, upgraded TX battery (1300 Mah) and Smiley Rubber Duck antenna (I'll also include the telescope antenna so you'll have our choice of which one to use. $125 plus actual insured Priority Mail to your location in the USA. Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] NIB Multiplex Cockpit TX and RX
Selling a NIB Multiplex 7 channel Cockpit TX and 7 channel IPD RX. Also includes switch harness and charger. All manuals (several languages) included. $275 includes insured Priority Mail to USA address only. Full details for this system may be seen at: http://www.hobbyhorse.com/multiplex_radios.shtml RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Need Hi-Load 60 Source
Terry, find a roofing materials distributor. They stock a product called Plazamate or roofmate. Plazamate 60 is Highload 60 but it has a rabbited edge so that the 2' x 8' panels interlock. It's the same as Highload 60 but made for the roofing industry. Ed - Original Message - From: Terry Mickle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSE soaring@airage.com Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 4:57 PM Subject: [RCSE] Need Hi-Load 60 Source I am in Oregon and can't find Hi-Load 60 locally - I can't even find anyone that will order it for me. Recently someone with the email address of [EMAIL PROTECTED], posted a message on RCSE relating a source of Hi-Load 60. The source was [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sent an email enquiry to this source but it bounced. Does anyone have any suggestions on where I might get Hi-Load 60 at a reasonable price? Thanks, Terry Mickle Southern Oregon Soaring Society RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Most fun plane
Louis, that's an easy question for me to answer. I'd have to say I've had the most fun with my Weasel Pro. It was a very well designed kit with very complete and well written directions so that anyone can build this bird and have it flying in short order. I've flown mine is very low wind conditions and also 30mph winds with no ballast. I've had it specked out in thermals while on the slope. It packs small and can be in your back seat or trunk ready to fly or you can travel with it by removing the tail. It's rugged and can tank the punishment that a no pilot will give it. I don't know of a better kit for the money and I'm in the kit business myself. My only criticism is that it's not one of my products. I like this kit so much that I built three of them. Two for me and one for my son. Check out the web site at: www.flyweasel.com Ed - Original Message - From: Louis Cimon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 4:51 PM Subject: [RCSE] Most fun plane I would like to know what plane you had the most fun with. I admit my Boomerang was the plane I had most fun with. I can throw it in any slope condition I meet without worrying. Sometimes I ballast it when the wind is really blowing. My Boomerang lost its rigidity long time ago because it met earth, trees, etc. so many times... But it still flies fine. I will rebuild it or build a new one for next summer. I cannot consider living without one. -- Louis Cimon. 141 rue Mistral Beauport, QC Canada G1E 5V4 tél : (418) 664-1023 http://www3.sympatico.ca/louiscimon RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] CNC cutter has been sold
The CNC cutter has been sold pending receipt of funds which I have no doubt will arrive so color it gone. Thanks to those that inquired. Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] CNC foam cutter for sale
This is a new never fully assembled model FC2913 CNC foam cutter from FoamLinx. Foamlinx sells this version for $995 plus shipping. I'm selling it for $800 plus actual Fedex shipping anywhere in the lower 48 states. That's nearly $200 off the current cost.See their website (http://www.foamlinx.com/products.htm)for all details about what is included with this model. Here's a partial description from their web page. Foam Cutter - FC2913K - Kit - $995 Maximum travel - 29 x 13 x (variable length) X axis length - 38 : Y axis height - 22 Number of Axis - 4 independent axis - can cut tapered cuts Cutting speed - 16/min 60W hot wire power supply Assemble time is 2-4 hours. Assembly manual for the kit - PDF format 3MB RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] DAW KA6 kits return along with others
For those of you that do not already know, SkyKing RC Products has taken over the production of many of the DAW EPP kits. During the next few months, we will be re-releasing the following kits: DAW KA6 3 Meter - first deliveries at the end of November DAW 1-26 2 Meter - first deliveries at the end of January DAW 1-26 60 - first deliveries at the end of January DAW KA6 2 Meter - This is a new kit - delivery date to be announced early next year DAW Dragonette - delivery date to be announced early next year DAW's well regarded all EPP KA-6 3 meter kits will return to the market beginning at the end of November. This is a great aerotow trainer and a fantastic and fun slope model. You can see photos of the finished kit at www.skykingrcproducts.com I will be accepting order in a few weeks. My web site is not currently set up to accept orders for this kit but it will be updated soon. The cost of the kit will be $229 including shipping to the lower 48 states. The first shipments will be at the end of November. If you would are likely to place an order for delivery at that time please send an e-mail so that I have an idea of how many kits to produce. Thanks, Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Release Wax?
http://skykingrcproducts.com/accessories/moldrelease/moldrelease.html Check out my web site under accessories. You'll find a compound listed that we think is the best. Ed - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 15, 2004 12:29 PM Subject: [RCSE] Release Wax? I know this went around a while ago but I've lost the files. I'm looking forsuggestions for a release wax for vac bagging and/or molding. Out here in the boonies it takes a while to get the real stuff and my last tub went dry before I could use it up. I recall suggestions for Mother's or Meguiar's paste wax with carnauba. Both versions at the local O'Reilly's have a cleaning compound. Is that OK? I should know by tomorrow when I pop open this bag but I'm still curious about any comments. Tried the liquid Meguiar's with carnauba (no cleaning compound) and it didn't work too well. That's about what we have locally. Dr. Zog didn't make it this far inland. We don't have PVA in the local weed 'n feed. TIA, - Dave R
[RCSE] WANTED TO BUY
I'm looking for a new in box DAW Dragonette. If you have one in your stash I can make it worth your while. Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] simple question
Bill, Laser Arts sells one that could work for you. It's called a Jester. You can see it at: http://www.laserartco.com/sailplane.htm Also the LilBird from SkyBench. I believe it can be built with spoilers but you can ask Ray. http://www.skybench.com/index.html Also Isthmus models has the Mistral 2 meter. If it flies anywhere near as good as the 3 meter version this one is a real champ. See it at Mark's site: http://www.skybench.com/index.html If those three don't make it for you I'd be surprised. Ed - Original Message - From: William E. Johns [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 2:47 PM Subject: [RCSE] simple question Are there any reasonably competitive 2 m RES planes that don't take months to build? Just sorta curious. Bill RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Dragonette kits found
Thanks to all that replied but I have successfully located all the kits I think I'll be needing. Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Obeechi Question
It's been awhile since I've used Obeechi for wing skins. I'm about to bag some Shrike and Elf wings. I know there is a right side and a wrong side to the veneer. I just don't remember which is which. If you look closely at Obeechi you can see that on one side the grain appears to be raised while on the other side it seems to be indented. Which is the outside face? Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Obeechi answer
Ok, thanks to Barry Kennedy I got the answer. For the three people that might be interested here it is: Obeechi has an inside and outside to the veneer. The inside (glue surface) has slightly raised grain while the outside grain is very slightly indented. You can see the differences in just the right light. More as it happens, Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Obeechi correction
Ed, Ben and the three others out there that still work with obeechi. My last post seems to be in contradiction with what others think. So, I called my all knowing friend in California, Harris Nelson. He's probably used more Obeechi than most anyone else in the hobby other than maybe Ed Whyte. Harris confirmed what Ed Skorepa told me. The raised grain side goes face out. The indented side is the glue side. Why you ask? Because it is easy to sand down the raised grain but impossible to sand down the indented side. If you are using water based finish, and I am, it would take much more finish to produce a glass smooth surface because you would have build up successive coats just to fill the indented grain. So much for my memory. In fairness to Barry Kennedy he did tell me to lightly sand both sides and then select the side that looked the best. So there you have it. Everything I remembered was wrong but thanks to friends and the soaring exchange I got the emmece from the obeechi maven. Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Obeechi answer
John, so sorry to trouble you with such a silly thread. I'm sure you had far more important things to pontificate on than silly old me. Sorry to drag you off your throne. Ed - Original Message - From: John Derstine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 7:56 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] Obeechi answer Most Obeche is not rotary cut but plane sliced. Rotary cut veneers are low grade, porous, and not good for veneering wings. Much of what you are seeing is due to the fact that the veneer is cut on freshly steamed logs to increase their elasticity and soften the wood. The better veneers exhibit very little of this bumpy phenomenon. This thread is the most silly I have seen in a while, the only reason this might make any difference (using one side or other) is if you are clear coating and not covering wings with covering, and then what possible weight difference would it make to fill with a lightweight filler such as talc or water based sanding sealer. The wood is porous from both sides regardless of bumps. It will need sanding, (profiling) sealing and filling irregardless of bumps. Pick the side you like and go for it. JD Which end of the egg do you crack open? Endless Mountain Models http://www.scalesoaring.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 8:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] Obeechi answer Those little bumps are caused by cutter knife. They are ripped from the other side. The veneer is cut from log while rotating. It's much easier to sand off those bumps (which may adds up to maybe 1% of surface) than try to sand smooth the other side with dings. Thus bumps side outside. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Leroy Saterly
I'd like to contact Leroy Saterly. I'm looking for his phone number or address. Anyone out there have it? Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Looking for Wisconsin Bob Johnson
I'm looking for Bob Johnson from Wisconsin. Bob if you see this or if someone on the exchange knows Bob please send his e-mail address. Thanks, Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Mike Lance
I'm trying to contact Mike Lance but can't come up with a phone number. Mike, if you are out there please ping me back OR if anyone knows how to contact Mike please send his phone number or e-mail address. Thanks in advance, Ed Berris RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Savage and son of Savage info
I'm looking for photos of either of these planes along with the name of the person that kitted them and if you have contact information for them. Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] the arugment for or against the Royal Evo
This debate (read, argument) for JR or Futaba or Multiplex reminds me of the arguments I used to hear when I was a member of the Minnesota Street Rod Association. The only difference was the brands. Ford, Chevy or Dodge (Chrysler Plymouth Desoto) It struck me as rather silly at the time and come to think of it this debate does too. Maybe I'll change my mind after my Royal Evo arrives but I doubt it. Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Winter Projects-what are you building
My current projects include a Genie, a Harris Nelson Shrike, a Mark Grand Shredder (the real one, not the knock off) and a Mark Grand Mini SR. So far the Genie is coming along nicely. The others are waiting for me to get moving. Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] So what is the replacement for 3m77 ?
Sorry, I posted the wrong stock number for the old formula 3M Super 77. The correct number is 21210. this product is readily available for 3M distributors such as W.W. Grainger or Fastenall. No need to check old messages. Just contact one of these distributors or any retailer that can special order 3M products. Ed - Original Message - From: Andrew E. Mileski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] So what is the replacement for 3m77 ? Thomas Koszuta wrote: With the formulation change of 77 so that it will now eat foam, what is the miracle substance we should all be using? Any experiences? This horse has been beaten to death several times. Check the archives. A lot of good info in there, including availabilty of alternatives. General search on 3M77: http://www.mail-archive.com/cgi-bin/htsearch?method=andformat=shortconfig=soaring_airage_comrestrict=exclude=words=3m77 General search on camie: http://www.mail-archive.com/cgi-bin/htsearch?method=andformat=shortconfig=soaring_airage_comrestrict=exclude=words=camie Specific RECENT threads you should read: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg79542.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg79558.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg77941.html http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg77951.html and so on ... -- Andrew E. Mileski Ottawa, Canada http://isoar.ca/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] So what is the replacement for 3m77 ?
Tom, I just checked with 3M using those numbers. They had no idea what I was talking about but they did give me this number and it seems to register with their distributors. 21210. Hope this helps. Ed - Original Message - From: Tom Moore To: RCSE Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 3:24 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] So what is the replacement for 3m77 ? here are the numbers from 3M sales: 3M Super 77 has had a few formulation changes. These changes were in order to meet government VOC standards. We currently sell two versions of 3M Super 77 - the original "classic" version stock number is 62-4437-4930-4 and the current formulation for 3M Super 77 Low VOC is 62-4977-4930-9 For the names of distributors in your local area who may be stocking the product, you can call our sales office in Los Angeles at 1-800-241-4819. -Original Message-----From: Ed Berris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 1:19 PMTo: Thomas Koszuta; RCSESubject: Re: [RCSE] So what is the replacement for 3m77 ? 3M still makes the old formula. You can ask a 3M distributor to order it for you. Ed -
Re: [RCSE] Lost model alarm challenge
Chris, no problem designing what you are asking about. In fact, I will be introducing a Lost Model alarm that has other features than just emitting a tone when the TX is turned off. Currently these alarms sell for between $15 and $30 depending upon the feature set. Please tell me what you feel would be a realistic retail price for a unit as you described. Thanks, Ed - Original Message - From: Chris Veitch To: RCSE Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 4:51 PM Subject: [RCSE] Lost model alarm challenge Guys A number of vendors make these that plug into the RX and make a noise when the TX is off/out of range, I have one. Very useful if you land in very long grass on the slope in a reasonable manner. Fortunately (touch wood) I have not had any problem landings at a distance for some time. In the days when I was learningor had some technical issue the landing outnormally involved some amount of higher landing speed. This frequently leads to a movement of kit in the place which can disconnect components from the power source. Therefore are there any vendors out there that can build one that would carry a lithium watch style battery as a power source and preferably be thin so that it would emit a noise if the TX was off or if it had no power from the RX. I think thiswould require electronic arming by switching the RX on and an off button on the unit. Sounds like it could be a YNT project ?? Any takers ?? Regards ChrisChris Veitch UK
Re: [RCSE] antenna length
Go to this web site. Enter the frequency you operate on and look at the quarter wave length box to see the number of inches your antenna should be. You will be safe with a length of 38.5 Ed http://www.crompton.com/wa3dsp/hamradio/antcalc.html - Original Message - From: Louis Cimon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RCSE [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 9:42 PM Subject: [RCSE] antenna length My receiver antenna has been cut and the end lost. How long should it be. The receiver is an Airtronic 92777/72 band FM Thank you -- Louis Cimon. 141 rue Mistral Beauport, QC Canada G1E 5V4 tél : (418) 664-1023 http://www3.sympatico.ca/louiscimon RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] circuit board material for control horns
Help a guy that doesn't know what he is looking for. I'm looking for the green board material commonly used for circuit boards but I want it without holes or copper foil. I don't know what it is called or where to find it. I seem to recall the letter G was in the name of the product. Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Smiley antenna
Bill, the owner of Smiley Antenna died three weeks ago of a massive heart attack. His wife and the other employees are operating the company. His death was quite unexpected. Much of the information for running the company were stored in his head. Therefore, everyone at Smiley is working hard to keep things on track but there will be some delays. Ed - Original Message - From: Steve Gibson To: rc Soaring Exchange Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 4:24 PM Subject: [RCSE] Smiley antenna I sent an email to Smiley antenna and it was returned. I called their support line and the sales line and din't get a live person or a voice mail. Are they closed for the holidays or are they closed for good?
[RCSE] Ken Stuhr
I'm looking for contact information for Ken Stuhr. Does anyone know how to reach him by phone or e-mail? Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Hard sided travel/storage case for 3m - not Sportube
FYI - e-Bay has a large list of keyboard cases for sale along with some sturdy and large capacity aluminum rifle cases. Ed - Original Message - From: James V. Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 8:41 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Hard sided travel/storage case for 3m - not Sportube At 04:25 PM 12/9/2003, eye_rc_soar wrote: Would appreciate any insights or leads, thanks The last several times I have had the opportunity to fly with Mark Taylor I noticed the hard case he was carrying his Zenith in... he told me it was an electronic keyboard case he got for a great deal at a music shop. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV ICQ: 6997780 AIM: InventorJim R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Fred Guilifoil phone number
Fred, I know I butchered the spelling of your last name, but I couldn't remember or visualize it either. Sorry. Please send me your phone number. Ed
[RCSE] Alan Baker
If you know Alan Baker of Revolution Hobbies please contact me. Ed
Re: [RCSE] AVA Issue at Nats
The issue of a TX that is not properly tuned strikes close to home. On a recent slope trip I experienced a great deal of radio interference. A few weeks after the trip I learned that one of the fellows on the trip with us was changing crystals in his TX and I believe that was the reason for the trouble..an out of tune TX. Wouldn't it make sense at an event like the NATS that the impound area scan all TX's before allowing them on the field. It seems that this extra effort would have saved you and many others the expense, frustration and disappointment. Ed - Original Message - From: James V. Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] AVA Issue at Nats That's just a tough situation all around which really affected me last week, and I am having a tough time writing publicly about it, so I won't write much... No respectful pilot on a contest field ever tries to shoot anyone down, it is always some sort of accident. Unfortunately at a contest like the Nats, your crashed flight gets scored, so not only do you lose the model, (probably your primary in that situation), unless you are flying an event that allows a throw out round, you acquire a score that will basically takes you out of the top 10 too. You may loose that model for other events later in the week, and if the model is hard to get, you may loose it for several contests in the future. It's just not a nice situation to be in. I lost two of my favorite models last week with radio situations that were out of my control, my green ICON lite that I was very successful with, and my brand new AVA that was really growing on me as model that I liked. The thing I learned this year at Nats was how generous other pilots can be when you are in that situation (which I had never been in), and I had so many guys step up and either offer lending models to me or parts. It was unbelievable! I am still so touched by all of this. Jim McCarthy lent me his F3J ICON to fly in UNL right after my ICON lite piled in in F3J, and when my AVA was destroyed in RES it was Capn' Jack who was first over and lent me his Aquila Grande XL so I could finish the RES contest. You can quit or you can fly... my friends helped me so that I could fly, and that is really cool. At 01:45 PM 7/28/2003, Bill Swingle wrote: a radio that was supposed to be on channel 42, but was alternately pounding channel 41 and channel 43 TX owner is sending his box in for tuning and check up. This is an awful situation. Just out of curiosity; what was done (if anything) regarding restitution? Bill Swingle Janesville, CA [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV ICQ 6997780R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] wanted CR Aircraft Contender Kit
If you have one of these in your pile of unbuilt models and are interested in selling it please let me know. Ed
Re: [RCSE] Article from Common Dreams NewsCenter
You know James, you were right about one thing. This is off topic and doesn't belong here. Why not take it to a list that welcomes this sort of stuff. Ed - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 8:57 PM Subject: [RCSE] Article from Common Dreams NewsCenter Sorry for the OFF TOPIC post, but my mom forwarded this to me and I read it. This puts things in pespective. We should all read it. We should all think about what our fearless leader is about to do in our name. -- James James Osborn wanted to share this article featured on Common Dreams with you. Here's the link: http://commondreams.org/views03/0212-07.htm ApplyRefer v2.3 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Earthlink scam
If you are active on eBay you might receive the same sort of communication. The e-mail even had the eBay logo and eBay name in the address. You are directed to a link where they ask you all sorts of credit card, pass word and other information. This sort of commutation is known as SPOOFING. This rather innocent sounding name is misleading because once you provide the requested information your open to all kinds of fraud. BEWARE! This is not just an Earthlink problem. Ed - Original Message - From: John Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 5:12 PM Subject: [RCSE] Earthlink scam For any of you on Earthlink, there is a scam going around where you receive this email: Dear customer, Our records indicate that your billing information cannot be validated. The reason is one of the following: (1) Wrong billing information provided. (2) Declined credit card. Please ensure that we have the correct information by clicking here http://www.earthlink-billings.com/ . Earthlink will not bill your credit card. This is for verification purpose only. We remind you that a wrong billing information can cause account restriction. We appreciate your support. Update billing information http://www.earthlink-billings.com/ Copyright © 2003 Earthlink. All rights reserved I actually thought they may have lost information. When I went to the web page they were asking for credit card numbers, and it wasn't a secured connection. I called Earthlink on the phone and they confirmed that this is a scam. JE -- Erickson Architects John R. Erickson, AIA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Vendor complaint
I know this forum is sometimes filled with rantings about vendors that do not support their customers. That's what this post is about. So, if you don't like this sort of thing I'd hit delete before you go any further. But, for those of you that want to know before you spend your money about vendors that do not support their customers read on. First I will print the reply that I received from Balsa Products regarding a purchase oftwo smallelectric motors and then I'll fill in the blanks: "Ed, No, we are not interested in figuring outyour problem. I cannot provide you that kind of service and stay in business. It is just not cost effective. Dave" Now here's the background. I purchased two small gear drive motors for a small electric model. When they arrived I found that they did not fit the gear box that they were purchased for. The motor drive gear was too large. I asked Balsa Products to exchange the motors I purchased from them for the right one. I offered to send them back along with the gear box and the burned out motor at my expense and have the replacements sent to me at my expense. You decide if this looks like the kind of customer service you would expect to receive. I've made up my mind. Ed
[RCSE] Bob Sliff e-mail or phone
I'm trying to contact Bob Sliff but I'm not sure if the e-mail address I have, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is correct. Does anyone have his e-mail or phone? Ed
[RCSE] Got Bob Sliff
Thanks to everyone that sent Bob's address. Ed
[RCSE] Pat McCleave (sp)
Pat, please contact me by e-mail or phone. I don't have your e-mail address but I'd like to talk to you about the Lake Wilson event and another matter. Ed 952 920 2464
[RCSE] Mark Grand
Still trying to find Mark Grand. Anyone know how to get in touch with him? Ed
