Re: [RCSE] Antenna for HLG
On another topic, has anyone ever had glitch problems from power lines? I have been flying at a small lake that is sort of in a canyon surrounded by power lines around the lake area and I have had severe glitching on a Hitec Electron, a DSP 4w10ampBec. a Hitec 555 and a GWS rx. All of these RX's were glitching when the plane was within 300'. There is also a cell phone relay that may come into play above a certain altitude. I have always had minor glitching with the GWS RX's beyond 300ft., but the Hitec's are usually solid. I will try one of the new PLL RX's next.. I don't find this too unusual. I have experienced this in the past on 50 mHz and now make it a practice to stay well away from ANY high voltage power lines, especially those on towers. The ones you find on standard power poles feeding local rural areas don't seem to radiate near as much interferring RF, but close up I've still experienced some problems. I suspect the same applies to 35 and 72 mHz also. I once managed to hang my Heithecker Challenger on the lines crossing the AMA field in Muncie during one of the early Nostalgia events. This was a direct result of interference from the power lines. I was out over the lines when it occurred to me that the plane was in a bad place and said to my caller that I'd better clear the area - but it was a bit too late as the plane rolled over and dived into the lines. Had it been anything other than a 'woodie' it would have been vaporized epoxy and floating carbon filaments - as some others have found out lately. 8-) Unfortunately for me, one of the rules at the NATS is that you cannot take your transmitter with you to retrieve a plane, even if you are the only one on the frequency. As we were riding a golf cart to the scene, the wind changed directions, the plane rotated around the leading edge and fell away from the lines. If I'd had the transmitter I may have been able to fly it away and prevent any further damage. As it was, it spiraled down to a hard landing with considerable additional damage. regards, Jim Porter Neckargemund-Dilsberg Germany INDECISION is the key to FLEXIBILITY RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Need a New Molded Comp Sailplane.. I know where they are!
Yes, but since April of 2002, when the conversion rate was 1 EURO = $.84, the conversion rate has been as high as 1 EURO = $1.29. That's a BIG change - nearly 54%! So, depending on when the last order was made it is entirely possible that the exchange rate might cause a price increase on the next order. A drop of 2% since the first of this year is pretty minor when compared to the increasesthat occurredlast year. Jim PorterNeckargemund-DilsbergGermany G'man, The Euro has gone DOWN approx 2%, relative to the US $ since Jan 1st, 2004. Sounds like just a price increase to me. Euro shown in $: http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=USDEUR=Xt=1y $ shown in Euros: http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=EURUSD=Xt=1y
Fw: [RCSE] What's this guy doing and why?
Really? I've been walking barefoot in that 'stuff' all my life? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Great razor plane substitute found!
Harley Michaelis wrote:Guys. . .I feared I would have to quit modeling if my Little Giant Razor Plane died. Not a problem! Stanley makes a tiny plane, measuring about 3-1/2" x 1-1/8" called a "Trimming Plane" that has a sturdy, adjustable blade that can be resharpened. I'm carving a plug out of basswood, but my Little Giant can't cut it (no pun intended). This new little plane will, and works well on balsa, too. Under $8. Another great wood working plane, theDavid Combi, issold by SIG Mfg. It does cost a bit more than the Stanley plane ($13.95) but the blades it uses are superb, lasting MUCH longer than expected. It works very well with balsa, yet can handle hard woods if the depth is set appropriately. Ten replacement blades are $3.95 and for many will be a lifetime supply. The first time I saw this plane demonstrated the seller was alternately planing an aluminum extrusion and end-grain balsa! Jim PorterNeckargemund-DilsbergGermany "The airplane stays up because it doesn't have the time to fall." Orville Wright
Fw: [RCSE] another classic qoute
Tim Gastinger said: The cheapest part about flying is the OWNER. And this is a guy who can give lessons on this! 8-) Jim Porter Neckargemund-Dilsberg Germany INDECISION is the key to FLEXIBILITY RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] AVA revisited
Hello Dave and other AVA owners, written by Dave Darling: You don't know me, but I believe you wrote the E-mail on the AVA. Yes, I've written a couple of emails on the AVA. I'm not sure how much credence you can place on my ramblings, but normally I don't say/write something without at least the experience or knowledge to back it up. I'll be the first guy to tell you I don't know when that's the case. Mike Garton did have a picture of my AVA in his soaring column in the last issue of Model Aviation. Mine is almost together, just waiting for the spoiler servo to arrive, but I didn't use your layout to install gear. I sort of copied that of Mike Reagan, who won the RES class at Visalia with his, standard size Hitec servos mounted in the rear of the servo tray, .080 carbon pushrods running outside the fuselage to the rudder and stab. Obviously his installation worked out OK!!! I placed the servos as far forward as possible to reduce the need for nose weight. Also, I installed .050 pushrods (lighter slower plane so I didn't think bigger ones were needed) inside the boom, using foam plugs inside the boom to lock the outer housing of the pushrod in place. Barry Kennedy said to balance the plane at 15 inches from the end of the nose and install the towhook about 1/2 inch in front of that: As I recall, you recommended a balance point 100 mm. behind the LE of the wing. That would place the towhook perhaps 15 mm in front of that. Is that about correct? After flying the AVA some more the balance point, now at 105 mm from the wing leading edge, is spot on for me. It is now essentially neutrally stable (unless you go vertical without the spoiler) and indicates the slightest variation in lift. But as for towhook position, I can't say as I've never used mine! So far all I've done is toss it off the mountain or up off the flat and thermaled out. However, I would think that 15 mm would be a good starting point. Mine is set for the first try, when I finally need it, at 116 mm from the nose cone offset (16 mm ahead of the CG), with 100% of the adjustment (9 mm) going back from that position. I may end up unhappy with this as it does not let me get the hook to or behind the CG. Perhaps someone with winch or high start experience with an AVA can chime in with their recommendation for towhook location.. On mine, the servo tray was very thin, perhaps 1/20 inch, much too thin to mount servos: I reinforced the tray by cyaing small plywood rectangles under them and drilling through them, seems to be adequate. I had the same problem. It seems that many of the new molded planes are coming with molded trays, most of which are not thick enough in the area where you want to use screws. I too have been adding plywood plates to the underside of the tray so the screws have adequate 'bite'. I've even gone so far lately as to install metal inserts (the type pressed into thin sheet metal, 2-56) to give me permanent and solid threads where I have fears the servos might move - and found at least one case where they did!! Two screws in Volz servos without grommets is looking for problems when trying F3F and DS'ing. I've eliminated the grommets as they are another elastic element that can contribute to flutter. The same is true with four screws and a molded tray, as the molded materials often creep under load and the screw tension is lost after a period of time! Sliding servos are really hell on centering! Lucky you, living in Germany, most of my favorite hobby shops and many friends are there! Had you lived in Germany sometime earlier? I live quite close to Heidelberg, not the best of areas for thermal soaring as there are very few places big enough for even a short highstart. Most of the soaring I've done has been of the alpine variety - launch off the mountain and go look for lift. I have adapted their use of the 'speed start' - USA slope-on-a-rope - to get some initial altitude to go look for lift. It keeps you from having to walk or drive to a lower landing field after you've been unsuccessful looking for lift. Nearly the most fun a grown man can have in 5 seconds with a sailplane. When I return to the States I'll really have to psych myself up to use a winch because as compared to the 'speed start' it now seems ever so dangerous! 8-) Any advice gratefully appreciated! Hope some of this has helped. regards, Jim Porter Neckargemund-Dilsberg Germany The airplane stays up because it doesn't have the time to fall. Orville Wright RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] New differential question
How do you deal with adverse yaw caused by a V-tails use as a rudder? Changing to an X- tail is not the answer that will satisfy the question. Two mixes: rudder to elevator and rudder to rudder. It generally takes less than 10% mix, adding a bit of down motion with the application of rudder to compensate for the difference in effectiveness of the upgoing versus the downgoing ruddervator. Jim Porter Neckargemund-Dilsberg Germany The airplane stays up because it doesn't have the time to fall. Orville Wright RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] one more question for the experts
Conventional tails pack easier than the common V tail for the traveling contest flier. 8-) P.S. Yea, I know about the V tail on the Cobra that breaks down, I own one. So does the V-tail on the new Starlight 3000, as does the Wizard Compact II, the Organic, the full D-box Graphite and the Elita! But as a general rule a cross tail is easier to assemble as there is no linkage to hook up. Jim Porter Neckargemund-Dilsberg Germany The airplane stays up because it doesn't have the time to fall. Orville Wright RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] one more question for the experts
So does the V-tail on the new Starlight 3000, as does the Wizard Compact II, the Organic, the full D-box Graphite and the Elita! Ya, but pulling them off the Organic and Graphite was such a pain that I always left them mounted. I still have the Organic, I never take off the V. The only V that really broke down nicely that I own is the Cobra. (But I don't fly it much anymore) Agreed, and taking the tails off the Wizard and Elita are even more of a pain because of the special fitting that both retains the surface and drives it. Jim Porter Neckargemund-Dilsberg Germany The airplane stays up because it doesn't have the time to fall. Orville Wright RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] bagging projects
I'm about to make the jump into vacuum bagging wings and such. I'm curious as to what other projects around the house can be done with this equipment. Anyone using their bagging gear for anything else?If you need to take towels in your suitcase, place them in a plastic bag, draw a vacuum, seal the bagand watch them fit in the smallest space you ever imagined - works when you don't have much shelf space also! It's a trick I learned from Paul Wright. Jim PorterNeckargemund-DilsbergGermany "The airplane stays up because it doesn't have the time to fall." Orville Wright
Re: Words was Re: [RCSE] We should start a new thread to bash
Because once a person goes up with the plane it ceases to be a model. How about after the person was outta the plane, does it revert to being a model? Generally not, because after the pilot exits the plane it normally turns into a pile of scrap shortly thereafter. Jim Porter Neckargemund-Dilsberg Germany The airplane stays up because it doesn't have the time to fall. Orville Wright RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Repairing a tail boom, need input
Stan, I broke my tail boom on a hard landing. The complete break was about 1/2 way back. Need suggestion on how to repair. I was thinking of putting in a 1/64th ply tube epoxying that in mating the two pieces of the boom, then using glass on the exterior. If the ply tube is a good idea, how long would it need to be? I've repaired or assisted in the repair of several molded fuselages that had broken booms. What has evolved as my best method follows. It also leaves you with a fuselage that when painted looks like new and is at least as strong as the original. 1. Using CA, glue everything back as close to the original position. Maintain the alignment of the fuselage while doing this. Don't worry about pretty or neat, just get everything back to as close to the original as possible. What you are trying to do is reestablish the alignment and handling strength of the fuselage. 2. Psychologically, this is hard to do the first time. Cut an oval hole, longer front to back than circumferentially, that opens up about 1/4 of the damaged area. There should be no damaged material outside the area of the hole either in front of or behind the hole. Directly opposite the first hole cut a second hole with similar properties. 3. Sand a bevel on the edge of the hole at least 1/4 wide and rough up the interior of the fuselage as far as you can reach with a small grinding wheel in a Dremel tool. 4. From .007 precured, unidirectional carbon laminate cut an oval that overlaps the second hole by about 1/2 on each side front to back and 1/8 on each side circumferentially - with the unidirectional fibers running front to back. Place this piece of carbon inside the fuselage, hold in place and tack with CA. Once this CA has set, flood the patch with CA, inside and out. 5. Using 2.5 or 3 ounce glass cloth (or whatever matches the original fuselage material) cut a patch to cover the outside of the hole. Spray the patch lightly with 3M 77 and press into the recess. Flood the patch with CA, let cure, sand off any bumps in the depressed area and block sand to remove excess material around the patch. Later you will add additional patches to bring the fuselage up to the original thickness. 6. Repeat the hole cutting and patching two more times on either side of the first patch. You now have 3/4 of the repair completed. 7. The last hole can be the trickiest, but can be completed in two different ways. One, if you have access to the inside of the tail boom from the front you can place the last carbon patch, place a balloon down the tail boom and blow it up to hold the patch while you glue it. Or, by gluing a balsa stick to the patch you can insert the patch, pull out on the stick and glue the carbon patch in place. 8. Fill in the remaining depressions in the fuselage by layering glass and gluing in place with CA. A bit of filler, some paint and the fuselage is back to the original appearance and stronger than when new. The stronger than new comment comes from experience with two crashes with my Ellipse 1T. The fuselage had been repaired after the first crash using this method. The second crash broke the fuselage behind the original repair. This method is definitely more time consuming than the plywood cylinder, but I believe it's far stronger and leaves the fuselage looking much better than most other repairs. Jim Porter Neckargemund-Dilsberg Germany The airplane stays up because it doesn't have the time to fall. Orville Wright RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] For those that enjoy building and flying wood built up sailplanes
Please don't make the same mistake the RES rules did. The rules did not adequately specify the class as to what it's original intent was and look where it is now. It's certainly not a simple, introductory level competitive event. Of course, almost by definition a competitive event develops a life of it's own and circumvents the originators intents unless the rules are very well written. Pray tell oh man of great wisdom, how would thee have divined the rules so as to not commit the same error as did the RES rules? What, in your esteemed opinion, should have been included in the current RES rules so as to, adequately specify the class as to what it's original intent was? Just curious... Bob Johnson Fond du lac, WI Do I detect a note of sarcasm here? Or perhaps a full song? I have never claimed any great wisdom, nor any divinity, but I do have an opinion, not that I have ever thought of it as esteemed - nor do you seem to. But that's all right, as a reasoned discussion 'might' generate a better set of rules this time. I would do the same thing I recommended when first asked at the Toledo show several years ago when the RES class was first discussed. It's quite simple - WOOD ONLY for the basic structure. I'd allow a glassed wood fuselage as a surface finish and composite reinforcements internal to any of the WOOD structure, but NOTHING else - no foam; no bagged, molded or composite flying surfaces or fuselages. I'd also toss out the usual landing tasks and make it a simple in or out, and a fairly large one at that - perhaps a fifty foot square? I'm not sure this is enough, but then again I haven't put any serious thought into the rules since originally asked about them several years ago. Perhaps others have, and can add some definition to the problem and the rules. What would YOU suggest? I think Ray's proposal has definite merit and would benefit from a constructive approach to the discussion. regards, Jim Porter Neckargemund-Dilsberg Germany The airplane stays up because it doesn't have the time to fall. Orville Wright RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Available: three NYX- F3B sailplanes, NIB
Just received the following note from Gerhard Pollack at Modellbau Pollack. We have the chance to dispatch at once 3 NYX F3B, all in different colors. These have been in VERY short supply for some time so here's a chance to get one of the better F3B planes currently available without the usual wait. Send a note to Gerhard for the details and/or check out his web site. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.modellbau-pollack.de/ Jim Porter Neckargemund-Dilsberg Germany The airplane stays up because it doesn't have the time to fall. Orville Wright RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Battery power for LSF 8 hour slope -- Why?
I have a chance to get this slope flight completed with the proper level two witnesses next month. I want to fly a six JR368 digital servo model for this. (I know, get a paragon.) Any ideas on battery type to make sure I have the eight hour go? Sounds like the worst possible plane to use for this task; a radio setup with high battery drain and an airplane that requires a high level of attention and coordination the whole flight. Unless you're absolutely deadset on completing this task in the most difficult manner possible, admittedly an interesting approach, use a different plane and equipment combination. Now I'm opening a can of worms: Just what IS the purpose of an 8 hour slope flight? Proof that you have big batteries, a large thermos, and a larger bladder? I thought torture was outlawed now? Nobody requires wannabe priests to pray the rosary in a casino -- why fly 8 hours non-stop on a slope? This is a bit like a doctoral thesis; part of the point of the task is to demonstrate understanding of the subject by setting up a sailplane and preparing the pilot to attempt and/or complete the task. It was NOT intended to be easy, nor was it intended to be accomplished by just tossing your plane off the hill without prior THOUGHT. Now there's a concept, THOUGHT: how to obtain the information to study the problem; what's required to finish the task; how to utilize the information to accomplish the task; and finally, completing the task. Here's a hint; try some PERSONAL research into the problem, rather than just defaulting to the internet and thereby perhaps avoid receiving a LOT of uninformed opinions. You might be surprised how refreshing this process can be. And, this process, properly done should give you a far better chance of completing the task. I know excellent TD pilots who got a slope plane only to complete the LSF requirements. Considering that many of these pilots don't much care for flying on the slope, the LSF should consider dropping the slope requirement. Or at least make it a real slope task, such as requiring 8 launches and 8 landings during a 1-hour flight with the same airplane without repairs or recharging; then, I might be interested. Not all that many doctoral candidates liked all their subject matter, nor the oral exams that went with establishing the understanding of the material. But they all did it if they wanted to finish the program. Part of this is the sense of accomplishment, as an individual, that goes with completing a difficult task. It's a bit of a Zen thing. Either do it or not, but quit complaining about the criteria. Jim PorterLSF 194 V Neckargemund-Dilsberg Germany Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Nimbus 4 6.6 meter EMM
Just before Christmas Randy McCleave and I went to HKM to look at their shop and to see the new Nimbus 4 Super Orchidee. I ended up bringing one home for several reasons. First, it's an example of excellent molding work - the fits and finishes are first class. Second, the plane breaks down into a size I can fit into my Audi A6 wagon without ANY difficulty, something I cannot do with most of the other large span, scale sailplanes. Third, it's a gorgeous sailplane that was crying out to me, Take me home. I did find two things I think could be better. First, the method used to make the retract doors leaves a bit bigger gap around the edges than I liked, but that's really pretty minor. Second, the canopy has a molded floor already installed that prevents you from easily installing a pilot. This, I think, is a shame as a scale plane with an empty cockpit just isn't quite right. It does mean, however, that you don't have to worry about building a scale cockpit - unless you're a real masochist. You won't be disappointed with this sailplane and knowing what I paid for mine and what it costs to get things from Germany to the US, John's price is very fair. Jim Porter Neckargemund-Dilsberg Germany The airplane stays up because it doesn't have the time to fall. Orville Wright I have just recieved word of availability of the second batch of Molded 6.6 meter Nimbus 4's from HKM. I will have them here in most likely about two weeks. Call or email to reserve one if interested. They go fast. I posted some new pictures today of this fabulous plane sloping beneath Mt. Fuji in Japan. Awsome sailplane in an incredible local. http://www.scalesoaring.net/EMM/emm%20news2.htm John Derstine Endless Mountain Models RD# 3 Box 336 Gillett PA 16925 570-596-2392 Endless Mountain Models [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.scalesoaring.net/EMM/rand.htm RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] SG38 primary trainer
I was in your position several years ago. I became interested in the Primary glider due to a couple of photos in Max Parrish's book, The Beauty of Gliding. I found out that Krick had ceased production of their SG-38 kit a year or two earlier so I started looking at my options. I don't know if this is the same glider but it caught my eye http://www.rc-sa.co.za/afc/herm2002/unique/page1.html I was at HKM in Germany last week and they had one of the Krick SG-38 kits for 200 Euros. If you're interested drop them an email. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jim Porter Neckargemund-Dilsberg Germany The airplane stays up because it doesn't have the time to fall. Orville Wright RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Radio 'Channel' help
I have had Futaba, HiTec, and Airtronics all in that order and every time I have picked up a new radio and used it on an existing plane I have had to change channel assignments on the Rx! Even the two Airtronics radios I have use different assignments! Having said that when you open most transmitters the wires going from the sticks to the board end in plugs. If the wires are long enough (probably not) why not swap plugs to get the outputs where you want! Just be careful that the trims are swapped as well, or are part of the stick package. Just thinking out loud and not recommending this to anyone VBG. This would be a real disaster with many computer radios as with the inputs to the microprocessor changed the built-in programs, mixers, etc would be in total disarray. However, with the Multiplex 4000 it wouldn't make any difference as you assign everything anyhow. Jim Porter Neckargemund-Dilsberg Germany The airplane stays up because it doesn't have the time to fall. Orville Wright RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] TPG Contest - the ideal plane
Now we have not only the plane of the day, but also the event of the day - JUST what we need! And one that requires ANOTHER plane. Remember long ago, that's what two meter was supposed to be. And then RES And now the QUICKSTART EVENT. Jim Porter Neckargemund-Dilsberg Germany The airplane stays up because it doesn't have the time to fall. Orville Wright I have a much better sailplane that is already in stock ready to ship today. It is called the Hoodwinkand it is an incredibly awesome sailplane. Launches to the moon (even on a high start), light wing loading, excellent penetration, easy to fly, and best of all unbreakable. I will bring to the the Southwest Classic. Oh, one thing.only the wise can see it. Only $995 and the shipping (next day air, or course) is free. Don't be a fool, order yours today! Doug They are already being made, I have seen one of the prototypes, and if you aren't already on the list you won't have a chance of taking delivery until the mid 2004 season. I've already heard that the price is being raised to $1,100. In a message dated 12/9/2002 6:59:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 05:37 PM 12/9/2002, Brian Smith wrote: Sorry to disagree...The new model is the H.(high) S.(start)Swooper with the Post Partum 123321 airfoilAnd will soon be available at all your friendly sailplane dealers for a modest $900.Remember?? Brian They are already being made, I have seen one of the prototypes, and if you aren't already on the list you won't have a chance of taking delivery until the mid 2004 season. I've already heard that the price is being raised to $1,100. Jim RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Sharon pro flap question
Any one have experence getting 80 to 90 degrees of travel one one of these things? I can get enought travel but the flap hinge is so stiff I'm stalling a 60 inch oz torque servo at about 45 degrees. I've run into this problem with one or two planes when I thought I REALLY needed 80 or 90 degrees of flap. Actually 60 or 70 is generally enough unless you want to stop before you can think about it. Ocasionally the hinge line has not been scored deep enough or wide enough to make the hinge flexible enough for large angles - or there is still too much epoxy left in the fabric to allow the hinge to flex easily. With the wing well supported upside down on a foam pad flex the flap towards you using both hands equally spaced on the flap. SLOWLY flex the flap until it goes slightly past the position you are looking for. You may want to approach this in stages. Once you've reached the desired point, flex the flap up and down many times. Finally, tape the flap to hold it there overnight. While you're doing this listen to the wing for bad sounds - STOP immediately if you start hearing strange noises. You might, with good hearing, be able to hear the epoxy flaking off the hinge material - that's ALL you should hear. Also, as you approach the point where the hinge becomes stiff, look at the area on either side of the hinge line for distortion or deviation from a flat appearance - STOP if things start to look wrong. Hope this helps. Jim Porter Neckargemund-Dilsberg Germany The airplane stays up because it doesn't have the time to fall. Orville Wright RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Servo trays and RDS site
No covers, slop, drag, snags, etc. Nothing but a clean airfoil (and they taste good too (oops, wrong commercial)). Pity to still see stuff hanging out and covers with bulges on them when it is all so unnecessary. When I see a RDS installation that's as stiff as conventional pushrods I'll think about changing over. Jim Porter Neckargemund-Dilsberg Germany The airplane stays up because it doesn't have the time to fall. Orville Wright RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Wire source
What's a good source for stranded 22 AWG wire? I know I can get it at Mouser but their minimum size (100') is a lot more than I need. Maxx Products near Chicago. http://www.maxxprod.com/ Jim Porter Neckargemund-Dilsberg Germany The airplane stays up because it doesn't have the time to fall. Orville Wright RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Self thermaling plane.
One of my customers and I decided to try an experiment, and we came up with a self thermaling airplane. That is really cool! It'll take the challenge out of soaring ! Just think,mMaybe I can even get rid of my TX ! :) It's called free flight. Jim Porter Neckargemund-Dilsberg Germany The airplane stays up because it doesn't have the time to fall. Orville Wright RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Email From AMA regarding Torrey Pines
I received an email from the AMA regarding the Torrey Pines issue. Was just wondering if everyone else received that email? Bill Kuhl I would guess it was sent to all AMA members with an email address on file. Jim Porter Neckargemund-Dilsberg Germany The airplane stays up because it doesn't have the time to fall. Orville Wright RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] 3 conductor servo wire 22 ga.
Can anyone point me to a source of the typical 3 conductor servo wiring in 22 ga? I have found a local source for the 26 ga variety, but not the 22 ga. Maxx Products in Chicago, by the package 10' or 100'. http://www.maxxprod.com/ http://www.maxxprod.com/mpi-5.htm Jim Porter Bettendorf, Iowa USA soon to be Dilsberg Germany The airplane stays up because it doesn't have the time to fall. Orville Wright RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Futaba 9CAP
Does anyone have use the CAM-pac memory module? Wouldn't be without one for each transmitter as it's the failsafe if the memory battery quits. It also allows the storage of another set of planes, sixteen by itself, if you're that well off plane wise - or several more setups for the same plane if you run out of conditions - very hard to do with sailplanes. JR recievers are not compatable with Futaba transmitters right?, different shift right? Not always. This is the case on 72 MHz, but, as far as I know, not on any of the other bands. This is strictly an American thing. Jim Porter Bettendorf, Iowa USA soon to be Dilsberg Germany The airplane stays up because it doesn't have the time to fall. Orville Wright RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Subject: RE: [RCSE] modification of rule 5, number of models
time... You choose to build - more power to you. I choose to fly - that does not make me less than you! Maybe, not to you, but to builders, it does. :-). That's certainly your loss and not ours. I can't believe your opinion is very widely supported by other builders. Rob Glover just made a comment that I fully support and pretty well sums up a lot of this discussion, If you don't enjoy it why bother? To that I would add this corollary. It's not what it looks like, nor what it cost, nor who built it, nor even how well it flies. It's the fact that it flies and the pilot is having fun. NOW, what else matters? OK, now it's time to stop the who's better than whom and get back to enjoying aviation in WHATEVER form you prefer. Jim Porter Bettendorf, Iowa USA Rome did not create a great empire by having meetings... They did it by killing everyone in their way. ps DON'T get between me and my workshop or the flying field! RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Lined up for MoM
Don't you wish you were hooking up in this line of winches right now, ready to launch into a MoM 10 minute task? 8-)) http://www.jimbacus.net/soaring/OVSS2001/DSC00474.JPG YES Why does there have to be a sadist in every group? 8-) Jim Porter Bettendorf, Iowa USA soon to be Dilsberg Germany The airplane stays up because it doesn't have the time to fall. Orville Wright RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Re: For sale, Infinity 660 transmitter and receivers - 50 mHz
Airtronics equipment for sale Infinity 660 transmitter in excellent condition with two battery packs and transmitter module on channel 02 (50 mHz) with two #92698 PCM six channel receivers on the same frequency. Complete package $300 postpaid CONUS Jim Porter Bettendorf, Iowa USA soon to be Dilsberg Germany The airplane stays up because it doesn't have the time to fall. Orville Wright RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Vne/Vmax in full scale?
I do not know what Vmax is, but Vne is Never Exceed Speed. Vmax is the speed the fuselage achieves after you've peeled off the flying surfaces. Jim Porter Bettendorf, Iowa USA soon to be Dilsberg Germany The airplane stays up because it doesn't have the time to fall. Orville Wright RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] For sale, Infinity 660 transmitter and receivers - 50 mHz
Airtronics equipment for sale Infinity 660 transmitter in excellent condition with two battery packs and transmitter module on channel 02 (50 mHz) with two #92698 PCM six channel receivers on the same frequency. Complete package $375 postpaid Jim Porter Bettendorf, Iowa USA The airplane stays up because it doesn't have the time to fall. Orville Wright RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] clear coat for molded wing?
I have a molded wing that had some light scratches in it , so I buffed them out with Gel-Gloss, but left the wing a little dull, which surprised me. I've tried some car wax to revitalize, but no luck. Can a clear coat be sprayed, or does this depend on what type of paint was used, which I would have to look into. Try Meguire's Mirror Glaze or one of their other automotive cleaner/waxes with VERY light abrasive. Meguire's has a full range of polishing and waxing compounds and has been one of the industry standards for some time. OR, I've used a plastic polish called E266 (believe this is a product number or perhaps a trade type number) that seems to work on most anything, but only for removing a light haze or dullness. I would have thought anything intended for use on a gel coat would be 'gentle' and have no dulling effect. Isn't this the stuff intended for use on the newer generation of sinks, showers and bathtubs that are molded plastic instead of fired enamels or ceramics. Another item worth trying is Soft Scrub, a kitchen cleaner Again, intended for cleaning and polishing plastic surfaces. Now don't laugh too hard. but this is what I use in my household chores/duties. Quick and leaves me more time for building and flying. Jim Porter Bettendorf, Iowa USA The airplane stays up because it doesn't have the time to fall. Orville Wright RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Re:hickies on EPP wings
I just saw an ad for the Graupner Tipsy, it is very cute, like the TwinJet and the Terry... and they all seem to have the same cosmetic problem: Whether styrene or EPP, they have all these mold marks ans hickies on the surfaces. Some are small and look like over-scale rivets or fuel hatches, except they cover the whole wing or other surface at even intervals... I guess they are from ejector pins. The worse ones are the size of silver dollars, and usually you find these un the underside of the wings, but once in a while they are on the fuselage, then I want to hurl cause they look ug-ly there So, can these be successfully sanded out of EPP or filled with something that is not too heavy or inflexible? Is there any success covering these with a low-temp film? The small marks are from the vents in the mold that allow the super heated steam used to expand the beads to escape. The larger marks are, as you guessed, from ejection pins, but some are from the valve(s) that allow(s) the beads to enter the mold. Polystyrene (EPS) They can be sanded off with light strokes of a sharp sandpaper, about 120 or 180 grit, preferably a silicon carbide or aluminum oxide grit (sharper and stays sharper longer). Depressions can be filled with any good model product, Model Magic comes to mind, but be prepared for a very different texture where you have filled - and of course a different color. The color can be fixed by using one of the water based urethane paints used on model race cars - expensive, but the dark colors cover VERY well and the metallics are gorgeous. All of this is more weight and probably more effort the most foamies are worth - this from a guy who sanded, filled and painted a Multiplex Twin Star. Ask Randy McCleave about it. Polypropylene (EPP) Sand as above, blow off or vacuum surface, spray a light coat of 3M 77, let dry and cover with Ultracoat. LOTS easier. Jim Porter Bettendorf, Iowa USA The airplane stays up because it doesn't have the time to fall. Orville Wright RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] 50 Mhz
Any Hams out there flying on 6 meters (50 Mhz)? Or even 53 Mhz? I fly 53 Mhz. It was worth getting a bunch of new equipment, in my opinion, but there is one thing to consider: there are only two makers of double-conversion receivers for 6 meters, FMA and JR, and the JR receiver costs 200 bucks. So you gotta believe in FMA equipment. Having said that, I have a number of FMA receivers and have never had any reason to doubt them. Futaba still supports 50 mHz - and they have a variety of receivers available. There are also JR receivers on 50 mHz that cost far less than $200. And I agree that the FMA receivers work well also - especially since they discontinued the Tetra. Jim Porter Bettendorf, Iowa USA The airplane stays up because it doesn't have the time to fall. Orville Wright RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] RE: Soaring V1 #2331
Referring to his placing in 1999. Sal DeFrancesco wrote: I have one! Took 3rd 2 meter at Visalia! Like it very much. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Vision problem, cell phones and rubber duckies
The caution about cell phones comes out of England. The problem has been documented in one or more of the English magazines. They may use different cell phone frequencies. I know their R/C radio frequencies are different than ours. These two items may account for nothing happening over here. Who knows what happens with 50 mHz though. I'd just as soon not risk an airplane either way. The rubber duckie problem, in my experience, was limited to 50 mHz and one antenna on a Vision tx. D O Darnell has used a different brand of rubber duck for several years on two different Vision transmitters (50 mHz) without problem. I have also used a different rubber duck on an Ace Micro Pro tx (50 mHz) without problems. None of this was intended to reflect on the usage of rubber ducks on 72 mHz. Although I suspect there are situations where there COULD be problems. Sorry if I've mislead anyone. Jim Porter Bettendorf, Iowa USA "Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please." Mark Twain From: "Eugene Heggen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have heard this caution before and wonder where it comes from. Myself and several flyer at our field (Northern Calif) have carried cell phones for over a year, while flying and have never experienced any problem. I use a Vision with a rubber ducky. One flyer has a Futaba and another a JR. Not one of us has had a problem. I have answered the phone while flying on several occasions. No problem. Maybe it's a European problem. Gene Also, as a general precaution, do not operate or even carry cell phones when you are flying. Even though the phone is 'off', it really isn't. The phone must regularly tell the 'tower' where it is in order for the system to find it. There have been several cases in England where this has caused crashes. I hope this helps. Jim Porter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] LSF
Hi, Can somebody explain what "level 1" etc mean? Rodger Rodger, There are five 'levels' of achievement in the LSF, one through five or I through V. Each represents a set of increasingly difficult tasks to accomplish. Initially the tasks are intended to improve the basic flying skills and to give your learning effort some structure to work within and goals to shoot for. Later or 'higher' levels require some concentrated effort along with a little planning and cooperation of some fellow flyers. It can be a lot of fun and a real challenge. Try the web site for more information. http://www.silentflight.org Jim Porter Bettendorf, Iowa USA "Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please." Mark Twain RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] LSF contest requirements
This rationale already is understood as evidenced by the slope alternatives (for those without good slope sites nearby BTW the alternatives to the slope requirements only apply to the early levels. Once you are trying for level V you must complete the slope requirement, there are no alternatives. Jim Porter Bettendorf, Iowa USA "Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please." Mark Twain RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE]
Just a note to pass on to the contest management. Unless you are counting on people not showing up to fly to keep the numbers down, your limit of 175 for registration is a farce. The score sheet shows that 35 people were no shows. This left a LOT of flyers who might have shown out in the cold. Jim Porter Bettendorf, Iowa USA "Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please." Mark Twain RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] RF Decks and FCC
Half the responses to the question of modifying transmitters are missing the point. Regardless of the care, quality, ad nauseam, modification of a transmitter in the 72mHz band is illegal unless type certified by the FCC or unless the individual modification is performed and tested by a properly licensed person. THAT'S THE LAW Your liability in using an illegally modified transmitter is complete and totally undefensible. You crash someone's airplane - or someone CLAIMS you crashed their airplane and you have NO DEFENSE. You will have to pay. The sad part about this is that ANY contest director who allows this to happen knowingly or otherwise is also liable. End of discussion. Nothing about this is debatable. Logic doesn't allow you to circumvent the law. THAT'S THE LAW, and unless you can get an administrative judge, Congress or the Supreme Court to overturn the current laws, rule and regulations, you're out of luck. CEASE AND DESIST The use of illegally modified transmitters. Continued discussion of the subject is asinine and pointless. Jim Porter Bettendorf, Iowa USA "Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please." Mark Twain Wouldn't it be simple enough just to do a proper test. Set up your modified radio with 3 receivers one on the proper channel and the other 2 on the channels just adjacent on either side. Have a go with the transmitter and see if you are splashing onto the outside 2 receivers. If you are not then I don't see what the problem would be. Because you haven't tested to see if anything is going on somewhere else. There is more to transmitter design than keeping adjacent channels clean. I think the real issue is doing mods like this without properly testing the outcome. The real issue is that this is illegal - and, 99.9% of the people doing the 'testing' don't know how or what to test for. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Re: [SFRC] Sorry... RcMicro OK again...
Fred, Don't worry about your English - it's certainly better than my Flemish! 8) Jim PorterBettendorf, Iowa - Original Message - From: Frédéric Dusépulchre To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 3:38 AM Subject: [SFRC] Sorry... RcMicro OK again... Sorry, I tried again 30' later... It's Ok... I was affraid reading all the mails about them... I just Visa-subscribed yesterday... First time I put my Visa number on the Net... :-/ I hope they are correct and honnest... According to Thayer,it seemsthey are... I apologise to all (and sorry for my bad English) Fred (Belgium)
Re: [RCSE] Foam Mystery....
Jeff, This 'stuff' is made in 'biscuits' that start out as big as 50" x 50" x 192" (some are maybe much bigger) and is then cut to the sheets you purchase. When you're down to measuring grams, it's surprising that the density is as uniform as it is. If you cut cores from the pieces you weighed you'd probably find that they reflected proportionately the weights of the original blanks. Jim Porter Bettendorf, Iowa - Original Message - From: Jeff Winder [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 9:13 AM Subject: [RCSE] Foam Mystery Just started my winter foam cutting frenzy for next season's HLG batch and noticed something really strange. The local building supply company was out of the usual Dow Blue extruded basement foam, so I purchased some of the Corning Pink stuff. The Pink was the same thickness as the Blue, 1.5" and the same R value 7.5, so I thought that this stuff would weigh about the same. To check this, I cut two 15.5" by 7.25" blocks (1 from the Corning Pink, and 1 from a leftover piece of Dow Blue), then went to the gram scale and weighed each. Turns out, the Dow Blue piece was 6.5 grams lighter. Logically then, a core cut from the Dow Blue should be lighter. This was not the case! After cutting a core using the same airfoil templates on each piece, the Corning Pink core weights 2.2 grams less, even though the block it came from weighs more!! Both cores are the same length, and thickness .. Anyone got an answer? Thanks Again, Jeff Winder [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Lake Wilson Spring Meet
I'm not the guy in charge, but the dates are 19, 20, 21 May 2000. Jim Porter Bettendorf, Iowa - Original Message - From: Ed Berris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 03, 2000 10:11 PM Subject: [RCSE] Lake Wilson Spring Meet I lost the name of the person that is coordinating the April or May meet. Some of the members of our club would like to participate. Will the person responsible for sending information please contact me. Thanks, Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] Re: Skegology
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 30, 1999 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] Re: Skegology I forgot to mention also, for those who never flew with spoilers, when landing down wind , the spoilers can actually SPEED THE PLANE UP, or the plane maintain its energy( not slow down), depending on the wind speed and size of the spoilers. Imagine the spoiler raising up and opening the bay so the wind can get cupped in open bay. Doesnt take a rookie to have this happen to them. You're joking, are you not? Cause an airplane IN FLIGHT to speed up because the spoilers are opened on a downwind landing. Maybe help maintain speed after touchdown - well a little. These are not sailboats we're talking about, but sailplanes. Jim Porter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Sanyo 1000 SCR cells
I have 105 Sanyo 1000SCR cells for sale. All are new and unused. $3.50 each plus actual postage All for $350.00 plus actual postage. Jim Porter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] Joining balsa sheets for wing skins
To carry the former thread with CA a little farther. Spray the waxed paper with CA before you place the sheets. This way any CA that makes it through the joint goes no further and one side of the sheet has no hard spots. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
