Re: [RCSE] RE: DO NOT SIGN UP FOR THE SOARING MASTERS....Early!
August 31 postmark is the drop-dead date. tk --- On Mon, 8/11/08, Jim McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jim McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [RCSE] RE: DO NOT SIGN UP FOR THE SOARING MASTERSEarly! To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, August 11, 2008, 10:35 AM Yes, the Turkish group is coming. They are also going to drag that German guy Philip what's his name who just won Holland Glide David Hobby from down under is expected to show as well. A real strong line-up. Where oh where is DP? I didn't see his name on the list? Ben Wilson, I am awaiting your entry too. Jim McCarthy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 9:49 AM To: Soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Jim McCarthy Subject: DO NOT SIGN UP FOR THE SOARING MASTERSEarly! Hi guys, I have it on bad authority that those guys who sign up at the last minute will get better fitting T shirts! The goal is 100 (you know like the movie 400...but less). There are about 80 spots left. The top Turks are coming, it would be great to get Jojo back but we'd need to get him an airline ticket I think. Might have some Aussies, Canadians, and even some guys from Illinios. Sorry the top Olympic Volley Beach Volley Ball team is already committed elsewhere so its for surethey won't be there. :-( So here's the dealif you haven't signed up yet, get your registration in! Jim McCarthy is dying to get the registration done and locked...so help him out. Be warned you will be flying against Louisville Soaring phenom, little Lee! (yes he is already signed up!) Contact Jim McCarthy directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] via email if not with your registration, at least to let him know you ARE indeed attending. That will help him and organizers make plans, they want this one to be everything a Masters event can be! Get away from the television and post him a note! See you there! Gordy Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut0005000 017 . RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Lovesong on EBay
Posting for a friend: Hi Tom. Remember last weekend I said I had a Lovesong I wanted to sell? I put it up on Ebay Starting @ 6PM tonight. Listing for Lovesong http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=013item=230036299657rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMESC%3AITrd=1 I would appreciate it if you could post this link for me on the Forum that soaring guys hang out at. I have no Idea where they are or what is a preferred forum for the sailplane crowd. Thanks, Tim Stone, McHenry, Il __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Lovesong on EBay
Got an updated link, sorry. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=013item=230036299657rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AITrd=1 somehow the one I sent you before is not correct. Tim Stone --- Tom Kallevang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Posting for a friend: Hi Tom. Remember last weekend I said I had a Lovesong I wanted to sell? I put it up on Ebay Starting @ 6PM tonight. Listing for Lovesong http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemih=013item=230036299657rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMESC%3AITrd=1 I would appreciate it if you could post this link for me on the Forum that soaring guys hang out at. I have no Idea where they are or what is a preferred forum for the sailplane crowd. Thanks, Tim Stone, McHenry, Il __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Top end speed in MPH ! Math quiz
Here are some specifics for your word problem: The McCann winches used at the AMA/LSF Nats and LSF WSM are 2 inch cores on a 6 inch flange. Winchline used is Memphis Net Twine TWB-30, 290 pound test braided nylon line. Two spools of this line fill the winch drum almost to the 6 inch flange limit, giving approximately 680 feet (207 meters) to the turnaround. At the WSM, we reduced the distance to the turnarounds to approximately 150 meters. Have fun with the math ... Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] R.I.P. Friend
I just knew Butch would be one of us when the second or third time I ran into him at a St Louis contest, Butch grabbed someone's hat from the ground and tore it up, then, when he thought no one was looking, he lifted his leg on a brand new Bag Lady TX tote. The owner of the tote never knew, thinking it was rain run-off from a tent, but Butchie was a great judge of character. Butch will be missed by all who knew him. tk --- Harry DeBoer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To everyone in the soaring community, we have lost a dear friend and truly a clown at heart. I just got of the phone with Johnny Berlin. Butch passed away this morning around 11:00am. Butch was probably one of the neatest Dog's I have ever been around and he was always glad to see everyone ( and their food ). If ever there was a dog that personified the words Mans Best Friend it would have to be Butch. Please think of Johnny as you pray for those who are in need as he has just lost his best friend! H- __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] The heck with World F3B Wins, DP gets last 2m award
Gordy gets it part right (again). The Hi Johnson trophy is an AMA award for the highest single score at the Soaring Nats. AMA used to run the events with all classes flown each day (you built a 2M, 100 and an unlimited plane every day) and flew a couple rounds of each class daily. This resulted in each class flying the same number of rounds, and the Hi Johnson awarded the single highest point score of the classes. With the advent of splitting the classes into day slots and the demise of the 100 Standard Class, we are now able to fly more rounds of 2M than Unlimited due to the difference in the number of pilots. LSF approached AMA last week about how to go about changing the criteria for the award to something more in keeping with the original intent of the Hi Johnson trophy. After a short conversation, a process was adopted and I will draft a letter asking to revise the criteria so the award is independent of the number of rounds flown in each class. This was what I meant at the workers banquet when I said Daryl won the last Hi Johnson 2M Award, not that anything was changing as relates to 2M at the Nats. Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Soaring Nats Workers' Raffle Donations
Each year, at the Soaring Nationals Awards Banquet held the after the closing of Unlimited, we hold a no fee raffle for the volunteer workers. It is our attempt to reward them for their hard work and dedication in making the Soaring Nationals a success throughout the week. People, just like you, donate the raffle prizes for this event. To show our appreciation, the LSF will put a link to your web site and advertise your company and its donation(s) on the LSF web site located at http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2006/Donor2006.html. As you might imagine, the LSF web site is a busy place as well, with over 7800 members, as well as non-members, checking the LSF web site for News, Events, and membership information. I know that asking to donate your time and hard earned dollars in the form the products that you represent is difficult, but know that your consideration is greatly appreciated by all. A number of people and companies who have donated great prizes for last years raffle will join us again this year. Wont you join them and help us as well by donating any R/C Soaring related item(s) that you can. Some have responded to my direct mailing by sending prizes to AMA and for that LSF thanks you. Once I am in Muncie, I will take delivery of those prizes from AMA and update the website. If you email me with your donations, I can update the site prior to receipt of the donations. It's not too late to contribute, the Raffle will be held at the Roberts Hotel on Thursday evening, July 27th. You can ship donations to: LSF / AMA Soaring Nationals Workers Raffle C/O Academy of Model Aeronautics 5161 East Memorial Drive Muncie, IN 47302 Attn: Randa Coates/Soaring Raffle Thanks for your consideration! Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Old Nats Winches for Sale
After many, many years of hard use, the red Wade winches used at the AMA/LSF Nats have been retired. In the fall of 2005, LSF and AMA negotiated a deal where LSF was to procure and built 12 new winches and turnarounds, based on the Tim McCann winch kits and off-the-ground turnarounds. We are using new 3110 Ford long shaft starter motors and winch wiring kits from Tom Bianchi at Injoy Lure Coursing. Over the past 8 weeks, I have been working with a group of fellow SOAR members to assemble the new winches. The biggest job was to switch out the Real Balls from the Wade winches to the new winches. I will have a web page up on the LSF site by the end of the week chronicling the winch builds. With that said, LSF is selling the Wade winches to help underwrite the costs of the new equipment. The winches have been reassembled and all but one are in an operable state (special deal to anyone interested in the fixer-upper). $300 per winch, delivered at the Soaring Nats. Includes foot pedal, battery cable and ground-mounted turnaround. We will not ship (too heavy, too expensive), but if you are interested in a winch and you know someone coming to Muncie, ask them if they would transport it back for you. And, of course, anyone wishing to make a donation to the winch fund would also be appreciated. There are already a number spoken for, I hope to see all the Wade winches go to the good homes they so rightly deserve. Please reply to me off-list or at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the bandwidth. Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Someone from L.O.F.T.
http://www.loftrc.org/steele/flier.html --- Jack Strother [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for the bandwidth, Would the CD for the up comming OVSS Contest, or Denny Zeck, or Bob Burson , Phil G. , Please ping me !; or send me the LOFT Net link Thanks -- Jack Strother Granger, IN LSF 2948 LSF Level V #117 LSF Official 1996 - 2004 CSS Gold RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] F3B
You can start here: http://www.silentflight.org/F3B/F3B2005.html Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] Soaring Nats Entries, and speeding things up a bit
It's like playing the telephone game in an Alzheimers Ward ;-) --- Danny C Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well it's that time of year once again. NATS is in the air and the Flowers are blooming and the blooming idiots and starting to flower..or something like that... snip __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] AMA Soaring Nats Reminders
Looks like I gave my Registrar a bum steer and we haven't been keeping AMA appraised of the current entries ... my bad. The official registrations are on the LSF website as LSF controls entries for frequency allocations. See the latest at: http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2006/Nats2006.html We'll get this sorted out quickly, please accept my apologies for any confusion and/or consternation it may have caused. But since we're talkikng about it, at the same link you can get to a Soaring Nats registration form and come join us for late July in Muncie. Registrations for the AMA/LSF Soaring Nats must be postmarked not later than June 1st to give the Matrix Magician time to work his magic. Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Mid-South website
The donkey is wearing an I Beat Gordy button tk --- Ben Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know what is funnier there - the donkey or Gordy flying RES! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Dennis Adamisin
Please ping me. tk __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] The First Synthesized TX Module
In fact, I still have a Dial-A-Crash, that has all 20khz spacing 72mhz channels, acquired around 1982-83. It has been recently tuned and is 1991 narrow band legal on all but channel 39. Coupled with a Kraft KP-7C MkIV tx, can make a nice tug radio. Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Olympics - off topic
Here you go, man! http://www.thecurlingnews.com/ BTW, nice job this weekend. tk --- Daryl Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok... I've been watching a lot of the Olympics lately... I think I'm gonna take up curling. Are there like curling alleys? Do they serve beer there? Is there a curling exchange somewhere where they talk about the various rocks? Maybe the rocks have different cambers, thicknesses and weights? sorry... maybe we'll make the Olympics someday... Go USA! ;-) D __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Nats Entries and where to send them!
A reminder to all potential Nats contestants: PLEASE SEND YOUR ENTRIES TO THE REGISTRAR ADDRESS ON PAGE 2 OF THE ENTRY FORM. SENDING YOUR ENTRY TO THE LSF PO BOX AT AMA IN MUNCIE WILL ONLY SLOW DOWN THE RECEIPT OF YOUR ENTRY AS IT MUST BE BUNDLED BY AMA, SENT TO THE LSF SECRETARY AND THEN FORWARDED TO THE REGISTRAR. Thanks for the bandwidth ... Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] assisted soaring,etc
This is Gordy's best post yet, on ANY subject! tk --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] LSF Website Updates
Updated content now posted at http://www.silentflight.org/index.html General news and links to updated pages: http://www.silentflight.org/LSF_Base/news.htm LSF Merchandise: Watch this space for shopping cart e-commerce functionality soon! http://www.silentflight.org/LSF_STUFF/LSF_Stuff.htm If your club or organization is having a soaring event, advertise here with a link to your site: http://www.silentflight.org/LSF_Base/events.htm 2006 Nats Information: http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2006/Nats2006.html And look at the first Donors' donations to the workers raffle: http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2006/Donor2006.html Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] 2006 AMA/LSF Nationals Registration
Registration for the 2006 AMA/LSF Soaring Nationals is now open. Entries must be postmarked between January 1, 2006 and Midnight June 1, 2006. Entry forms may be printed from the LSF website: http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2006/Nats2006.html The registrar for the 2006 Soaring Nats is Barry Andersen. You can reach Barry through the email link on the page above. Please note that email entries are not allowed, you must mail your entry to the address printed on the form. DO NOT MAIL REGISTRATIONS TO THE LSF POST OFFICE BOX AT AMA, THIS WILL ONLY DELAY YOUR ENTRY. I would like to take this opportunity to thank Ed Franz for the many years of work as Registrar. Ed has taken a deserved rest from those duties, but he has agreed to CD the HLG event. Ed, many, many thanks from the LSF Board, myself personally and on behalf of all the Nats contestants for these past years. Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago) __ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Welcome New LSF Secretary
I would like to take this opportunity to welcome our new LSF Secretary, Bill Rakozy. Bill is a Level III, and has been extremely helpful with the 2004 aand 2005 LSF Workers Banquet and collectibles marketing. He was also LSF Club Coordinator of the year in 2002. Please take a look at Bill's bio at: http://www.silentflight.org/officers/Rakozy.htm See the bio's for all the LSF Board members at: http://www.silentflight.org/Vote_Elections/result.html Welcome on board, Bill! We look forward to working closely with you during our next term. Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago) __ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] LSF US Soaring Masters sponsored by Horizon Hobby and JR Radio
Yo, Daryl, here you go ;-) http://www.silentflight.org/LSF_Base/application.htm tk --- Daryl Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a wonderful thing. Thanks John/JR/Horizon! I will gladly attend proudly wearing my blue shirt. ;-) For those who have never soared Muncie... this will not be your typical steer and stab. Soaring skills will be required. I especially like the requirement to be an LSF member... ok.. no I don't, but it's a great idea for those darn LSF guys. Where is that damn form? ;-) See ya in Muncie... again... ewe... D __ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] LSF US Soaring Masters sponsored by Horizon Hobby and JR Radio
Yo, Daryl, here you go ;-) http://www.silentflight.org/LSF_Base/application.htm tk --- Daryl Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a wonderful thing. Thanks John/JR/Horizon! I will gladly attend proudly wearing my blue shirt. ;-) For those who have never soared Muncie... this will not be your typical steer and stab. Soaring skills will be required. I especially like the requirement to be an LSF member... ok.. no I don't, but it's a great idea for those darn LSF guys. Where is that damn form? ;-) See ya in Muncie... again... ewe... D __ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] LSF News
The LSF Board wishes you and yours a prosperous, uplifting and Happy New Year. http://www.silentflight.org/index.html Check out the latest news about the Officer Elections, Nats Planning meeting and the 2006 NATS http://www.silentflight.org/LSF_Base/news.htm Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago) __ Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year. http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Re: Git-r-Built/Dave Hauch
Welcome to the wonderful world of Webmastering ... nice job, Dave! And speaking of nice jobs, Dave has finished a number of models for me and I can't say enough about the quality ... an AvA, couple of Icons, electric Escape ... all have been flawless. Dave's aces in my book! Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] LSF News
Updated content on the LSF website: Officer nominations open from now until Midnight November 30. http://www.silentflight.org/Vote_Elections/default.html Level Updates and other news: http://www.silentflight.org/LSF_Base/news.htm Coming soon, Nats Planning Meeting Report, Online Store to buy your LSF merchandise on the web. Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago) __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] OVSS #7 - SOAR Fred Fredrickson Memorial Thermal Challenge The Fred
SOAR will be hosting our 8th annual Fred Fredrickson Memorial Thermal Challenge and 2005's OVSS #7 at our sod farm field near Plainfield Illinois this coming weekend Sept 17 18. Long flight times, FAI landing bonus, seeded man-on-man ... and no skegs or landing arrestors! For details, http://www.silentflight.org/LSF_Base/SOARFred.html or from the link http://www.silentflight.org/LSF_Base/events.htm We look forward to seeing your here. tk P.S. One additional perk, Jim and Rhonda Bacus will be hosting a bbq at their home Saturday night, details will be available at the field. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Reply: [RCSE] Tulsoar
Our track record with the electric park flyers has been different. Even with Li-po batteries, the newbies see us flying sailplanes for 30 mintutes or more and they get real interested. Many of them are now moving toward larger, better performing e-sailplanes, and a few of us are having a ball with the small electric 3D machines and choppers. Cross-pollenation does work sometimes. There's room for most, if not all, and especially with one of our fields being public land and shared with the local equestrians, we can't limit our help to the newbies, we educate both flying skills and the sandbox skills required to share the property. Our only restrictions are sailplane and/or electrics, no wet power as it scares the horses. It also helps to have a presence with the local hobby shops that are selling the park flyers ... we offer assistance and guidance that helps ensure a positive experience to the newcomer, and THAT you can literally take to the bank. tk --- Ray Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reminds me of one of the clubs I fly with that opened it up to electric flyers. Several new guys joined and most all, if not all of them had just the little buzzy things to fly, no electric sailplanes. The overweight short wing span arf's are flown all over the field without regard to the few soaring pilots. I was told the local power club wouldn't let them in. It won't be long for this club before the dominant flyers will be the little buzzy things. Bye bye sailplanes. Ray Hayes http://www.skybench.com Home of Wood Crafters __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] NATS Scores
See all the scores from the 2005 AMA/LSF Soaring Nationals at: http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2005/Results/default.html Will have the sheets for Lee Renaud and Hi Johnson tomorrow. Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] NATS DAY 1: HLG Results
I echo what everyone has been posting, great weather, very tough competition. AMA is a great host, and our people (Glider Guiders) are having a ball. Results are posted here: http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2005/Results/HL.html Phot gallery to follow within the day (I need to accumulate and review all the shots from the day, first. Having a wonderful time, wish you all were here with us! Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago) Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] NATS HLG Change - And Some Thoughts ...
First of all, as regards Nats HLG, the reason there was a rule change so late in the game is that a number of competitors suggested TO AMA that the AMA Primary/Backup rule does not fit into the HLG venue of multiple official flights within a given window of time. A competitor needing to validate moving from the primary to the backup with the CD before changing planes would cause the competitor to lose much time during the active window. Also, the rule states that once the primary is retired, it cannot be reintroduced to the competition. The altered rule now allows movement to the backup with CD validation AFTER the round ends, and allows the repair and subsequent re-entry of the primary into the competition. LSF operates the Soaring Nats, but it is still run by AMA under AMA rules. Deviations from AMA rules must be approved by the AMA Nats CD, the LSF CD of record, the LSF Event Director and the AMA Technical Director. A LOT of email was exchanged over the past few days. There is supposed to be a rules change proposal coming this cycle to eliminate this rule for HLG. Now, for the larger issue: Is it time to retire the Primary/Backup rule entirely from AMA Soaring competition rules? What does the Primary/Backup rule really do for us? What does everybody think about that? Is there enough feeling among the competition soaring community to kill this outdated rule across the board? We who fly the OVSS circuit have routinely dropped this rule (per AMA procedures by declaring the change on the sanction form) and have noticed that very few pilots actually build and switch between multiple models in a given competition. The rules change cycle is coming to a close this Fall, who will lead the charge? Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] AMA/LSF Nats HLG Rules Update
A change has been made to the primary/backup rule for Hand Launch Glider, reviewed and approved by Nats management (LSF and AMA) and the AMA Technical Director: http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2005/HL/HLG_Tasks.pdf or link from the HLG page: http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2005/HL/default.html ALSO: More donors added to the Wrokers' Raffle List: http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2005/Donor2005.html Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Steve Pepper of Haskell Texas
Please ping me off-list. Thx! Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] LSF Website Updates
There's lots of new content on the site, check the NEWS page for many of the links: http://www.silentflight.org/LSF_Base/news.htm Meet your Nats CDs ... each event page now sports your Contest Director's picture. Start at the 2005 Nats page and click on the events in the table: http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2005/Nats2005.html There is a format change in the Upgrades page ... we have decided to display each month's achievers for a rolling 24 months. After all, it takes you time to advance, we want to recognize your achievement for more than a month. I have recovered as many individual months as I could from the Secretary and the old website and have created an index here: http://www.silentflight.org/Upgrades/Upgrade_History.html Updated contacts from around the LSF world and a link to a new feature, an email form you, the LSF member, may use to update your contact information with LSF ... and provide a limited amount of free form text feedback to your Board of Directors. Check it out at the Contacts Page: http://www.silentflight.org/LSF_Base/contacts.htm We're getting daily updates to the 2005 Nats Donor page, so check back here often, and be SURE to thank the manufacturers for their donations! Click here: http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2005/Donor2005.html Updated Team USA F3B info and merchandise you can buy to help support the team: http://www.silentflight.org/F3B/F3B2005.html Information about F3J Hand Tow and the 2006 US Team Selections: http://www.silentflight.org/F3J/F3J2005.html My report on the JR Aerotow and picture gallery: http://www.silentflight.org/Galleries/JR_Aerotow/JR_Aerotow_2005.html Spend some time, browse around, and let us know what you're thinking. See you at the NATS! Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] NATS BBQ
Maybe the donation should be %5.00 and all the wood you can carry? The last bonfire melted glass in seconds and vaporized beer cans before they hit the coals! Sure to be a hoot, as the Cap'n might say. Don't miss this ... Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago) Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Reply: [RCSE] Had a chance to test the Freq Checker with its Ext Antenna Tonite
I made my own antenna like Mike's from the Radio Shack parts he indicated. Simply used a 4-40 cap screw self-threaded into the mono jack. I have played with the unit for the past several weeks at the Ft Wayne OVSS contest, our two SOAR club fields, out and around my home (no flying fields nearby) and at a couple of power fields and found the following: 1. With antenna plugged in but not extended, the number of false positives was about the same as without an antenna. 2. Antenna plugged in and extended, apparently my house radiates on CH32 (no R/C tx's on at the time). 3. At the field, 50 yards from the flight line, antenna extended, checker showed only the channels in use on the line 4. On the flight line, antenna extended, ALL channel led's lit up (swamped). It was most cool to see 6 guys light up all 50 channels. We all got a good chuckle from that! I would suggest that the Channel Checker be used as a device for channel awareness by afixing it near where you would post your frequency pins, etc. In that manner, the number of false positives should remain low and the indications you get should be mostly correct. Keep it away from a concentration of RF energy ... unless you need a night light. If you need qualitative data, need to find spurious and/or off-field transmissions, need to check the radiation of a particular transmitter, get yourself the Channel Analyzer from Aero-Spectra or another lab-quality frequency analyzer. tk --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I found is that it (the Hobbico antenna) does virtually nothing for range. How long is the Hobbico antenna? Tower Hobbies doesn't say. My 28-inch homemade antenna makes a definite difference, and it really doesn't look very different from the one in the Tower Hobbies picture. Radio Shack Antenna: http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLGproduct%5Fid=270-1405 Radio Shack Connector: http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLGproduct%5Fid=274-328 My homemade antenna: http://www.vvsss.com/freq_checker/antenna.jpg The Hobbico antenna: http://www2.gpmd.com/image/h/hcap0341.jpg Mike __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Re: Mid-South question
Bubba, you need to come to our Fred contest. Long task times and F3J landing tapes without SKAGS, SKEGS or landing arrestors of any kind. We run a FLYING contest, not a dork-fest. Just for you, you MAY fly your planes with skegs ... but they must be mounted on the top of the fuse, and inverted landings score a ZERO landing :-0 tk --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim - You are right, my feeble brain had blocked out the F3whatever events. Must be some sort of reaction to too many rules. Any event that has more rules than I can remember I tend to throw up mental blocks. I hope that my teammates will be understanding up in Muncie. Jim - I might come to Chicago for beer, and definitely for hospitality, but you probably wouldn't get me up there for an event that doesn't allow skegs unless I had already had a few beers... Happy trails to Mid South this weekend - with my skags - Bubba Brother Bubba, you must have certainly forgot about F3J and F3B... and of course if you ever were to make the journey to Chicago for our Fred Fredrickson memorial contest (OVSS MoM), you would be landing SKAG-less on a F3J tape. (TK likes the term skag). And enjoying our major league hospitality of course... 8-) (I'd have to stock up on exotic beers weeks in advance if he really would make the trip up) Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] More LSF Website Updates
Check out some new content: Level Upgrades for May: http://www.silentflight.org/Upgrades/Upgrades.html Meet Joe Hochadel of the DARTS Club: http://www.silentflight.org/Coordinators/Club_Coordinators.html 2005 Nats Donors Page: http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2005/Donor2005.html Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] Soaring Nats Entries Close MIDNIGHT June 15th
Hurry and get your entries postmarked no later than Midnight, June 15th to ensure your spot for this year's AMA/LSF Soaring Nationals at the national flying site in Muncie Indiana. The latest Nats info can be found at: http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2005/Nats2005.html Print and mail the form from the LSF website: http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2005/05SOARING.pdf Check out who's already registered and what frequencies everyone is on at the following url's: http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2005/Register.html http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2005/Frequencies.html Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago) __ Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel and more fun for the weekend. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/weekend.html RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] 2005 USA F3B Team Pages Available on LSF Website
LSF is pleased to announce we are hosting web pages for the 2005 USA F3B Team on our site. Link to the pages via the main LSF page: http://www.silentflight.org/index.html or directly at: http://www.silentflight.org/F3B/F3B2005.html Current content includes: 1. Overview of the F3B event 2. Meet Team USA Members 3. Photo Gallery of the Team Selections held in Muncie last October courtesy of Jack Iafret. More content coming. Also, you can send an email to the team from the Meet Team USA page. Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Reply: [RCSE] Retro Moldy
You were nervous??? JB, the Cobra only got almost high ... I could still see those tiny Euro-V's against the clouds. :-O A total blast flying once I remembered to kick it in the tail entering air ... about 10% more stab and it would be kick-butt nice. tk --- James V. Bacus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I let TK fly it and it even made me a bit nervous how high he took it, at least I know my JR radio gear of the day is still rock solid. __ Discover Yahoo! Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] 2005 AMA/LSF Nats Entries
Gas prices are coming down, and time is running out. Send your entry registration and join us for a week of glider camp in Muncie at the National Flying Site. Bring a flying buddy and carpool. Your registration must be postmarked no later than June 15th. Do not mail to the LSF PO Box, use the address for Registrar Ed Franz on the website and form: http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2005/Nats2005.html Review the latest frequency allocations and registrations at the following links: http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2005/Frequencies.html http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2005/Register.html Download your registration form from: http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2005/05SOARING.pdf We hope to see you there. Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new Resources site http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
REply: [RCSE] Had a chance to try the Freq Checker this weekend
I purchased one of the Aerospectra Channel Analyzers when they first hit the market and have used mine for years ... it travels to all the contests I attend by driving. Unfortunately, this weekend at OVSS #1 where Gordy was showing off the so-so performance of the Hobbico LED box, my Channel Analyzer was in the parcel post on its way back to me after a tune-up. In speaking with Jim Hauser of AeroSpectra on the tuneup for my unit, he mentioned that demand for this high-end unit has dropped off and he is considering ceasing the manufacture of it. This would be a huge loss to the the R/C community, as you can actually eyeball if a Tx is clean or not without a scope and an advanced degree. Yes, the price tag takes it out of the buy one and throw it in your flight box category, but any club serious about safety and/or running major contests should consider picking up one of these while you still can. If you don't have a real scanner, the Hobbico unit might be OK and is certainly better than nothing, but it is not something I would use to decide if it's OK to fly a kilo-buck model based on what it sees. One man's opinion, your mileage may vary. tk --- John Derstine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If your goal is safe flying, a real investment in a quality scanner is a must for any club or serious end user. The Aerospectra is a commercial grade hand held unit that gives meaningful info. Not only what frequencies are on, but their db and bleed over into adjacent channels. You can zoom in and analyze a small section of the frequency band, or view the whole spectrum for interference. Of course the only accurate way to measure is with an antenna that can accurately scan the entire area. The price is beyond the budget of most individuals at $895.00, but for a club it makes a great investment. We used one at all our events in Elmira, and saved many aircraft with it, as well as track down offending transmitters with splatter. http://www.aerospectra.com/ JD Endless Mountain Models http://www.scalesoaring.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/stayintouch.html RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] LSF Website Updates
Updated content now available: Meet Loren Steel, our newest LSF Club Coordinator: http://www.silentflight.org/Coordinators/Club_Coordinators.html Updated LOFT OVSS link and a link to the ESL calendar: http://www.silentflight.org/LSF_Base/events.htm April upgrades: http://www.silentflight.org/Upgrades/Upgrades.html 2005 Nats Donor updates: http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2005/Donor2005.html Coming Soon: LSF will sponsor the USA F3B Team pages. Same offer to the F3J Team Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] OVSS and Line Breaks
I've followed this thread with some interest ... as JB said, we've discussed this topic trekking back and forth from many contests in the van. The advent of affordable molded models has done more to cause line problems than any other single facet of our chosen sport. Today's molded sailplanes are so strong that they can easily part 200# test winch line, almost at will. This is the primary reason we in the OVSS and AMA/LSF Nats have moved to the 290# test lines we use today. If there are no burns, abrasions, crappy knots, etc. it's unlikely that you will be able to break the line on purpose without damaging the model. With aircraft of this magnitude of strength, the need for developing good winch technique has fallen by the wayside. In my early days in the sport, everyone flew open framework gasbags and a full pedal launch on our SIX volt winches would result in a Monokoted bag full of sticks. You learned to temper your foot or you learned to rebuild - fast! Today's competition pilot doesn't need to develop any such technique, he can simply hook up, step on the pedal and GO! Poor winch technique is easy to spot, the smoke coming from the winch armature and excessive wing flex are sure indicators. Moderating the amount of energy in the line, motor and wings are all a part of launching technique that is all too lacking among many competition pilots who have skipped the early learning curves of winching built-up, more fragile models. Examination of the line break often yields the answer to why the line parted, the aforementioned abrasions, poor knots, frozen turnaround pulleys ... equipment failures should result in a relight. The pilot that breaks the line as they push over into the zoom has no call for a relight, he got 90+% of the way up. The pilot who full pedal launches through a thermal on tow shouldn't get a relight, either, unless the equipment failed (and if he had proper technique, the line likely would have stayed intact). Weak links ... tried in F3B a decade or more ago, the weak link was dropped quickly because the relative weakness of the link was actually seen to be a safety hazard as most links failed just out of the launcher's hand. Yes, the (rather large) relative difference between the line and the link had much to do with the problem, but what is the right differential? For a 100 RES or NOS vs a 3.9 meter Sharon? Do we need devices on the winches to set torque or tension limits? Same issue as the weak link ... what's the right amount of torque and is it the same for every model? A seasoned pilot acting as the Launch Master can readily evaluate each launch and come to a likely first approximation as to cause for line failure on the spot ... subsequent investigation at the point of failure serves to validate whether the call was correct or not. I would guess that the Launch Master is going to be right the majority of the time. Reserve one or two winches on the line for relights ... pilot calls the break, Launch Master either denies the relight request and the pilot continues the flight or confirms the relight and the pilot comes down IMMEDIATELY for relaunch. If the number of breaks exceeds the number of backup winches, call the group down and start over. I suggest if that many lines break in the same round there are either equipment issues or you're winching over desert scrub or through rose bushes. Rather than look for a technological silver bullet, I propose that we, as a part of bringing newer flyers into the competition circuit, teach winch technique alongside air reading skills and spot landing practice. It will improve the quality of the pilots, it will improve equipment life, and it will allow more flying, which is really the whole point, isn't it? IMHO, Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago) Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Reply: [RCSE] Nostalgia rules and list of Nostalgai Models
Lists of kits and plans are available on the LSF website: http://www.silentflight.org/NOS/NosRules.htm Follow the links at the bottom of the page for .pdf, .txt and .xls formats. Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] LSF By-Laws Vote Extended
The voting window for the LSF By-Laws vote has been extended to Midnight May 15, 2005. If you wish to vote electronically, you may do so from the link found at: http://www.silentflight.org/Vote_Bylaws/default.html or the direct link to the form: http://www.silentflight.org/Vote_Bylaws/Bylaws_Evote.html Please exercise your right to vote! The LSF Board recommends a vote to ADOPT the By-Laws changes. Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] LSF By-Laws Voting is OPEN
Voting for the proposed changes to the LSF By-Laws is now open and will remain so until Midnight April 30, 2005. Follow the link at: http://www.silentflight.org/index.html or paste this URL in your browser: http://www.silentflight.org/Vote_Bylaws/default.html You can review the changes and print a ballot to be mailed from this page. Mailed ballots must be postmarked no later than April 30, 2005. Voting from the website should be available within a few days after the Board returns from Toledo. If you are visiting the Toledo Exposition, stop by booth #367 and you can cast your vote in person. Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Come see Me at Toledo LSF Booth!
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems they want me to be the poster boy for LSF at Toledo...really as in they plan on stapling me to a poster! :-) snip Drat! Who let the cat out of the bag? Jim Deck, remember the duct tape! Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago) __ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] LSF Website Updates
Lots of updates, please browse around. Start your review at: http://www.silentflight.org/LSF_Base/news.htm = Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago) __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] LSF Website Updates
Please check out the latest at: http://www.silentflight.org/Upgrades/Upgrades.html http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2005/Nats2005.html http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2005/Donor2005.html = Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago) __ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Frequency Scanners
I recommend the Aerospectra unit, have had mine for 10 years and the service support and performance are outstanding. Not cheap, but it's truly an investment. If your club puts on a good sized contest, you should have one. Does 72, 75, 50 and Ham bands. One user's opinion. Tom Kallevang --- Adam Till (Cal) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, In the market for a scanner for 72mhz (and possibly 50mhz). Doesn't have to do anything more than tell me if there's something on my channel, and some measure of signal strength. Basically, the simpler, the better. Old subject I know, but I seem to remember that the old standard recommendation model scanner has been discontinued. Anyone have one that they want to get rid of? Cheers, Adam Adam Till Mechanical Engineer 403-270-9200 (ext 154) 403-270-0399 (Fax) UMA Engineering Ltd. 2540 Kensington Road NW Calgary AB, Canada T2N 3S3 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] Re: Toledo Show.
All the particulars can be found at: http://www.toledoshow.com/htmlindex.html = Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago) __ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] NATS Entry Forms/Schedule
Yes, this is earlier than we all expected, Lonee Estep is getting off to quick start. There are a couple of errors on the entry form on the AMA website. I have requested the changes, but I do have an edited .pdf version available at: http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2005/Nats2005.html Click on the Nats Registration Packet link or wait a day or so and get a corrected copy from AMA (I'll post the update on the LSF site as well). F3B is a typo, it is indeed an F3J year, and we are allowing 4 entries per frequency in F3J only to spur pilots to fly together as teams. The entry fee is $35 like the other two day events. There's an extra line between Sat/Sun and Mon, with a $25 tag ... ignore that, it's a cut and paste orphan from morphing the form from last year to 2005. The schedule has shifted to a Friday to Friday week. The Executive Council mandated a compression of the Nats schedule. They took some practice days away from some groups, split frequencies among different R/C events to run concurrently ... Soaring retains its 8 days, just offset a day earlier. As a result, the schedule was changed only by shifting HLG to Friday from Monday. This minimal change should allow us to evaluate how the shift may affect our attendance. Watch the page above for updates. = Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Postal Contests and LSF Points
A question came up over the weekend asking if a soaring pilot competed in an event as a postal contestant, could that pilot claim LSF Contest Points. Our good LSF Secretary, Jim Deck, quickly found the pertinent clause on the LSF Achievement Voucher (Gee, the framers thought of everything): On the back of your voucher, Under Section 11 - Competition; A - Size it states: All contestants must compete at the same location on the same date. Therefore, no postal contests are valid for LSF points. = Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago) __ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] LSF Website has moved
The website is up on the new ISP and the DNS entries have been changed. Should you try and use the email features on the website, mails may not work correctly until after the weekend after the DNS entries have propogated across the ether ... Thanks for your patience. = Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V #103 AMA L292 SOAR (Chicago) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] LSF Website if Moving
After too many technical and service glitches to enumerate, I am moving the LSF website to another ASP. Over the next few days, the entire web content will be moved. Please be patient, I hope to make this cut-over as seamless as possible. I will send another notice once the move is complete and operational. My apologies to those who have contacted me with the latest series of problems with access via Linksys router/firewall, know that this was the straw that broke the camel's back. Regards, = Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL AMA L292 SOAR LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] Contests, Landings, etc.
I do this at the SOAR OVSS Fred Contest each year: 1. Short (strong) lines: About 200 meters (650 ft) of 290 lb test braided nylon line as used at the Nats; 2. FAI Landing tapes, added as bonus after FLIGHT scores are normalized (1,100 points is perfect, landing is a 10% point bonus); 3. No landing skegs/arrestors allowed (I always have a hacksaw available for guys who know the rules and still show up with a molded in skeg); 4. Long task times (10+ minute targets); 5. Seeded Man-on-Man (OVSS format, keeps the big boys pounding on each other all day, they like it and so do the spectators); 6. Fly what you want, no primary/backup models designated; We have a great time, fly all day, BS and funfly until dark (or later), and most of us are still talking by the end of the weekend. What's not to like? = Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL AMA L292 SOAR LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
RE: [RCSE] TFR - 8/27/04
Go back a few months and read Dave Brown's President's Column in Model Aviation ... he speaks of working with the government on model issues like shipping on airliners, etc. Makes sense that AMA has been so successful in collaborating with gov't due to the demonstated ability to self-regulate. You want to be tested and regulated by the BATF like the high-power rocket jocks? Seems prudent to comply ... IMHO. tk __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] 2004 Nats Raffle Donors' Page Updates
We're coming down to the wire and I've been contacted by a number of individuals and companies who are asking to donate merchandise to the Workers' Raffle. The LSF is happy to receive your donations and we turn around and distribute them at the annual Nats Workers' Raffle after the Awards Banquet. Latest updates just put up on the donors' page last night. Hurry, there is still time to add your name ... contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you would like to donate. Thanks, = Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL AMA L292 SOAR LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V __ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] LSF Website Updates!
Just updated: 2004 Nats Registrations and frequency allocations. Logon to: http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2004/Register.html http://www.silentflight.org/NATS2004/Frequencies.html = Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL AMA L292 SOAR LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V __ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] Toledo 2004
I must echo the sentiments already expressed by others ... this year's Toledo Expo was a great time. To be immersed in everything R/C for three days, great! I only wish I had had more opportunity to walk around and ogle all the neat stuff. Can you believe it, I didn't buy one darned thing all weekend! True, for a glider bum there isn't a lot to be seen, but look at the big TOC type acro ships and you see the same molding techniques in use there as in our TD moldies ... and at quite a bit bigger size. Gorgeous paint schemes on every one of them. Electrics ... the glow engine manufacturers should be reading the writing on the wall ... if you have noise issues, the electric wave may be your salvation. Li-poly batteries that are taking more and more abuse the way Ni-Cad and NiMh do today, and the price is coming down all the time. Giant scale and gas motors are strong, too. It was great to see so many LSF members over the weekend ... we were able to update the database for many members coming back from years of inactivity or other pursuits. Seeing old friends, making new friends, that's what the hobby is all about, and Toledo is a great place to do it. Be sure to carve out some time next year for the 51st annual Toledo Show. = Tom Kallevang Wheeling, IL AMA L292 SOAR LSF President Webmaster LSF #303 Level V __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] LSF Website Update
After some initial struggles, we've been able to update the LSF website: o See the election results __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] LSF Website Updates
It's been a long week ... After some struggling, we've made some updates to the LSF website: o See the election results o New Level Upgrades for January o Updated LINKS page Coming soon: o New Officers' bio's o Q1 2004 Shortlines o Toledo! Check it out at http://silentflight.org = Tom (TK) Kallevang Wheeling, IL SOAR LSF President LSF #303 Level V __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] OFB Resurfaces
I received a call from out of the blue Sunday evening that I thought I might share with you: John Nielsen, one of the founding members of the Chicago SOAR club, emcee of the many SOAR NATS banquets and the man who decimated Schwinn Corp. each year to bring adminitrative assistants (we called them secretaries back then)to perform the scoring for the SOAR NATS called me. John is 79 years old, has lived all over the country, had been flying some quarter scale (J-3 Cubs on floats), took up and gave up full scale sailing on the Great Lakes and is now renovating some of his original sailplanes, two that he flew at the first international soaring event held in Doylestown PA before soaring was an official event in AMA OR FAI. Seems John was surfing the web and came across the LSF website (SilentFlight.org)and recognized my name as a potential nominee for office, followed the links and read my bio and decided to call. John is interested in rejoining AMA and SOAR once some pesky cataracts are taken care of and he returns to Illinois from his Florida winter compound in the Spring. He even wanted to find out what his original LSF number and level were (both long forgotten) and he's interested in some of the woody events Ray Hayes is promoting. We spent over an hour talking about all the changes in the sport since the early 70's, the mutual friends, some passed on, some still active, and the 30 years just melted away. What a great sport that fosters relationships that transcend generations like this. = Tom (TK) Kallevang Wheeling, IL SOAR, LSF #303 Level V __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] New level V?!
Way to go, Brian! Sure feels great, doesn't it? = Tom (TK) Kallevang Wheeling, IL SOAR, LSF #303 Level V __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
