[RCSE] SWC Scores
Finally got the scores up on the website. Thanks to all and see you next year! http://casl.net PS - on the Open scores it has Cody ahead of Mike for 3rd place, that is just an alphabetical mistake. Mike took 3rd and Cody 4th after the flyoff, which was pretty cool if you missed it. Hi-starts, 5 minute tasks, landing tape... Mike landed a 5:03 with a 96 landing and Cody a 5:00 with a 92 landing if I remember correctly. -- Paul Emerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.emersunn.com
[RCSE] SWC
I want to thank CASL for putting on a good show again! I know you guys were short handed, and thought you handled that very well.. No winch problems... Great attitudes.. Always a great contest to attend.. I keep my fingers crossed that this contest will go on for many years to come. Always a pleasure to run into friends, sit down to some good BBQ, and catch up on what happening.. Thanks Chico! Great job! Cheers Charlie
[RCSE] SWC Registration Closed! Wait and Wail!
Yes I won. About 8 raffle prizes, for the $20 I bought in tickets.? Shirts, a plane, some Greening servo mounts, some Serengetti sunglasses, some free Vinyl wing letterings, and some other stuff like a JR Spectrum Radio set. I did pretty much everything I could to make room at the top of RES and Open class by teasing the guys with precision landing approaches, hovering over the hot spot, then at the last minute directing the models just outside the lines.? Drove them nuts knowing I could have taken it? :-) I went to the SWC with a personal goal of getting a Woodie...I mean sure I went to bed with one and woke up with one, and had it ready all day too.? I really never had a woodie in my entire soaring career, going from power straight to unlimited planes. So after all the work those two guys went to get me a woodie, and again never having had one before... I went with a special purpose to this SWC!? I wanted to leave with woodie wood!!! At the end of the first day I had about a 50 point lead, I never missed a time and averaged +/- 3 seconds across the board in all the classes I flew this weekend, but it was that woodie that kept me from being able to focus on the other class landings. So yes I took wood with my woodie (Marauder...awesome ship by the way) YIPES that German took second place in Open!? Jason George used is landing judge connections to kill everyone in that class.? Mike Smith and Cody had a hi start fly off for 3/4 spots in unlimited.? Mike edged him by a point or two on the landing. DP and Larry were in the bunch, and... the rest of the story will be posted :-) Louisville or bust in the morning The weather today was the nicest I have ever experienced in all my soaring travels.? Not hot, almost no wind.? Definitely a really fun event. Gordy Tired in Arizona More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com
[RCSE] SWC Standings...
FYI: Here is a sneak peak at the final standings (as far as I remember): OPEN 1 Jason George 2 Andreas Kuntz(sp?) 3 Mike Smith 4 Cody Remington 5 Skip Miller 6 Lex Mierop 7 Larry Jolly 8 Daryl Perkins 9 ? 10 Skip Miller RES 1 Joe Nave 2 Jason George 3 Skip Miller 2M 1 Some dude in a yellow shirt 2 Darwin Barry 3 Philip Brister Woody 1 Gordy Stahl 2 George Joy 3 ? Junior 1 Cody Remington TEAM 1 CVRC Complete pilot standings and lots of photos soon on http://www.rcsoaring.com Joe www.rcsoaring.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] SWC Was Slippery Today...Including The Landing Zone!
Weather said,, Sunny by 10am, it got sunny about 1:30 for an hour, other wize it was dark over cast with almost no wind and chilly as in sweatshirt, hoodie chillycold finger chilly. That made the ground really greasy under the grass landing boxes...and since the wind was completely directed by thermals, often the landings were downwind..and hot. Most of us slid out of great landing points. A whacky German (great guy!) is killing us in the LZ (Andreas Kuntz) who is visiting with a V tail Orca, consistently drops its nose in the LZ for pointsbut its Larry Jolly flying a 2.4 Perfect and has the best caller timer on the field who's leading us all in Unlimited. Funny how in the old days, it was Unlimited that got all the attention and the other classes got a polite mention ,but with AVAs and Topazi's, RES is just as hard fought. Joe Nave is in the zone leading us all there...I'm begging along in 7th place with about 40 ish points between us. LJ's in their too, Jason George (top Visalia Landing Judge) is in the top 5 in RES and Unlimited! Speaking of Landing Judges, Mark Russell is flying a Supra and also doing fantastic! Top 15 pretty much by grabbing 5 landing points here and 5 there, while the rest of us a slip-sliding away. Sorry I don't have the score sheets, the BBQ was SO good this year that we all sat around eating and it got dark, before I had a chance to look at the scores. I came to fly WOODY this yearI never owned one, or leaned to fly one but I came with a custom made MM GliderTech Marauder this year and I have to tell you...WOW! What a sailplane...Launches like a moldie, covers air like an F3B ship, reacts to rudder as if it has ailerons and lands like its on railsthe only shortcoming is the goofy rubber tooth old school skeg strip...it just loads up with mud and then slides thru the zoneI'd have pretty close to perfect rounds had it stopped where I put it 4 or so times! The general attitude is excellent, the winches are working great, plenty of power and lines are doing fine too. 600' to the turn around gives every one a good start. Chico and Skip are keeping admin and launch areas moving and organized. One pop off allowed but almost not needed. The air has been fantastic, but having said that I had a close call on one flight and others made the wrong decision only to find some serious down. Jack Strothers has been doing pretty good, a little rusty on his landings, but has been a fantastic timer/caller for some of my best roundsI have had a lot of good guys timing for me today. With the drizzle yesterday, and the cool over cast today, its still been one of the most fun contests I have ever attended. Mike Smith is up there ahead of me and Daryl so don't count him out of the game! Still three rounds tomorrow...and for sure its I think that the top 10 Unlimited are separated by about 30 points, and the RES top ten by about 45ish. I've been pretty consistent in Woody and that Marauder has been really suited to this kind of air...hopefully it will hang in their for me tomorrow. Everyone wants to know how much it weigh and I really don't know but as I carried it across a mud puddle today, they had to get a tow truck to get me out cuz I sunk in so deep. It has a removable tail group, with two 3/16 x 3 steel bolts holding them on, and it has 4 Sub C cells in the nose plus some lead to get it even close to less than 50% CG! Of course that's part of the landing sliding problem I have been having (couldn't be my crappy energy management!). I started the day with a 35 (max landing) with my WHCSL, and that's a 3 diameter paint spot, and ended it with anotherthat turned into a shed part zero :-( I had torn my wing tape on the previous flight and didn't bother replacing it. When I pegged the spot, it had some spin energy and I hit hard, that cause the tip to fly off ! Oh what could have been had I posted those 35 points! Too many really good flights and pilots to mention but everyone is having a ball. More maybe tomorrow! Gordy **Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp0030002598)
Re: [RCSE] SWC Was Slippery Today...Including The Landing Zone!
thx Gordy for keep us updated. I just built one of those Orca's and was pretty impressed with the kit. Dave Hauch www.rc-builds.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring@airage.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 10:21 PM Subject: [RCSE] SWC Was Slippery Today...Including The Landing Zone! Weather said,, Sunny by 10am, it got sunny about 1:30 for an hour, other wize it was dark over cast with almost no wind and chilly as in sweatshirt, hoodie chillycold finger chilly. That made the ground really greasy under the grass landing boxes...and since the wind was completely directed by thermals, often the landings were downwind..and hot. Most of us slid out of great landing points. A whacky German (great guy!) is killing us in the LZ (Andreas Kuntz) who is visiting with a V tail Orca, consistently drops its nose in the LZ for pointsbut its Larry Jolly flying a 2.4 Perfect and has the best caller timer on the field who's leading us all in Unlimited. Funny how in the old days, it was Unlimited that got all the attention and the other classes got a polite mention ,but with AVAs and Topazi's, RES is just as hard fought. Joe Nave is in the zone leading us all there...I'm begging along in 7th place with about 40 ish points between us. LJ's in their too, Jason George (top Visalia Landing Judge) is in the top 5 in RES and Unlimited! Speaking of Landing Judges, Mark Russell is flying a Supra and also doing fantastic! Top 15 pretty much by grabbing 5 landing points here and 5 there, while the rest of us a slip-sliding away. Sorry I don't have the score sheets, the BBQ was SO good this year that we all sat around eating and it got dark, before I had a chance to look at the scores. I came to fly WOODY this yearI never owned one, or leaned to fly one but I came with a custom made MM GliderTech Marauder this year and I have to tell you...WOW! What a sailplane...Launches like a moldie, covers air like an F3B ship, reacts to rudder as if it has ailerons and lands like its on railsthe only shortcoming is the goofy rubber tooth old school skeg strip...it just loads up with mud and then slides thru the zoneI'd have pretty close to perfect rounds had it stopped where I put it 4 or so times! The general attitude is excellent, the winches are working great, plenty of power and lines are doing fine too. 600' to the turn around gives every one a good start. Chico and Skip are keeping admin and launch areas moving and organized. One pop off allowed but almost not needed. The air has been fantastic, but having said that I had a close call on one flight and others made the wrong decision only to find some serious down. Jack Strothers has been doing pretty good, a little rusty on his landings, but has been a fantastic timer/caller for some of my best roundsI have had a lot of good guys timing for me today. With the drizzle yesterday, and the cool over cast today, its still been one of the most fun contests I have ever attended. Mike Smith is up there ahead of me and Daryl so don't count him out of the game! Still three rounds tomorrow...and for sure its I think that the top 10 Unlimited are separated by about 30 points, and the RES top ten by about 45ish. I've been pretty consistent in Woody and that Marauder has been really suited to this kind of air...hopefully it will hang in their for me tomorrow. Everyone wants to know how much it weigh and I really don't know but as I carried it across a mud puddle today, they had to get a tow truck to get me out cuz I sunk in so deep. It has a removable tail group, with two 3/16 x 3 steel bolts holding them on, and it has 4 Sub C cells in the nose plus some lead to get it even close to less than 50% CG! Of course that's part of the landing sliding problem I have been having (couldn't be my crappy energy management!). I started the day with a 35 (max landing) with my WHCSL, and that's a 3 diameter paint spot, and ended it with anotherthat turned into a shed part zero :-( I had torn my wing tape on the previous flight and didn't bother replacing it. When I pegged the spot, it had some spin energy and I hit hard, that cause the tip to fly off ! Oh what could have been had I posted those 35 points! Too many really good flights and pilots to mention but everyone is having a ball. More maybe tomorrow! Gordy -- Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL Living.
[RCSE] SWC... Is Testing a Better Solution!
Gordy, For several weekends now, this is exactly what has been done. Testing... Visalia configurated lines (heavier line on bottom, to turnaround, lighter/stretchier line to launch hook). Rick Bothel has also come up with a really nice configuration for keeping lines up off the ground. The winch no longer sits in the grass, but up on a stand., The turn-arounds are on raised tri-pods... The effect is that a lot less string drags on the ground. We've been testing this setup in the world's toughest environment, the AZ destert. That's right, NO GRASS, only rocks a dirt and roots to snag on. I've have my Icon (yeah, the OLD version), Darwin's had his Sharon's, and various others have had their full-pedal-launch moldies out there... landing on a pad of carpet we threw down to save our planes... All THIS, so you the SWC Attendeee will have a better experience for your hard earned modeling dollar. Still testing this weekend, by the way screw christmas and family, we've got a TD Contest to prepare for. Skip (the lesser) Richards **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304)
[RCSE] SWC 2007
I forgot to mention that a printable, mail-in form will also be available at www.casl.net as soon as the BBQ and T-Shirt prices are in. Sorry again for the delay. On 10/26/06, Paul Emerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clarence,I can answer some of these questions.I just got off the phone with Chico and we are still trying to get the best price for BBQ and T-shirts for the SWC 07 contest. I am sorry for all the confusion but I was told to open the online registration for all at a certain date with or without the BBQ prices. Those who have registered already can re-register online and pay for just BBQ/T-Shirts if needed. I recommend just waiting until we have the prices before you register, which should be by Monday. The interest in the last few days tells me that the SWC 07 is gong to be a biggie!Again very sorry for all the confusion I am just doing my best as a volunteer webmaster.PS the Woody/RES details are being worked on but I hear Woody will be an option this year. Paulwww.casl.net On 10/26/06, clarence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Darwin Can you shed any light on the SWC event, BBQ, T-Shirts, also will theRES Woody classification will be be the same as the CVRC Fall Fest.ClarenceRCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News.Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED].Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] SWC Photos
Ok, I got all the SWC pictures posted - about 50 in total. Thanks to all that submitted them... See www.rcsoaring.com Joe == Joe Nave NetMeister, Inc. InterNetwork Design Integration 4224 Waialae Avenue #155 Honolulu, HI 96816-5330 Phone: 808.394.NETS (6387) == What do you want to network today? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] SWC - a view from near the bottom
Thanks to CASL for a very enjoyable weekend of TD competition. The weather during the weekend was nearly perfect but occasionally a bit too challenging for some of us. Of course an off field landing did not help. A previous writer reported seeing a Red Supra bounce off the wires but that report was erroneous because the true color is Dark Orange. The nose skag engaged the wire and the Supra bounced back and landed nose first on the road. Thanks to Larry Jolly's super strong skag, no damage was done. Sorry about not producing smoke and flame, but the power had been turned off by an ICON. The Supra worked very wellbut was hampered by a lack of piloting skills. I think I should be up to the middle of the pack by the Mid South. Launches were very solid with no hint of popping off even in the occasional down wind conditions. I have always launchedby holding the model behind the wing, but I think holding it in front of the wingwill give a better start. Some retraining is in order. The model is big enough to see at considerable distance (about .4 of a mile for me) and is quite stable in thermal turns atthis distance.A small amount of camber (perhaps 2 degrees) seemed to improve the climb performance in a thermal. A small amount of reflex (1 or 2 degrees also improved speed for the trip home without destroying L/D. Good depth perception by the pilot and/or timer or an excess of altitude is required to avoid obstacles. Landings were easily controlled and successful when preceded with a good approach. Landing conditions were ideal which helped me garner points on about 50% of the attempts. I tried to emulate the Larry Jolly approach of using 1/2 flaps at about 300 ft out and then full flaps and nose down over the spot. Worked good when done correctly. Bottom line - Supra is a keeper. Easy to launch, fly and land. Tough! No cracks or damage after a free fall from the power lines and several "dork" landings. Easy to transport and assemble. Airtronics 761 digital servos are great. Strong and silent. The Scharck man and I will be there next year. It is always great to see old friends and acquaintances and make new ones. Nice to put faces to the names of people who have purchased things from me over the Internet. Check my website for a couple of more words about the Supra. ICON is not for sale. Don RichmondSan Diego, CA[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.hilaunch.com
[RCSE] SWC Thanks
I started out running an F3J practice for the US team on Thursday. George Joy was kind enough to lend the US F3J team the club winches to run the kinda, sorta F3J contest with both winches and hand tow. It went quite well, and while the winch launches were not as fast at the hand tows they were not that bad. As you would expect, Skip, Joe and Daryl (do we need last names) were at the top of the heap. We got 3 rounds of 10 minutes in between 9:30 and 1:00pm before a bizarre windstorm arrived. I had just called for a 15 minute lunch break and Joe saw it coming and hollered and everyone ran for their planes. It looked like a wall of dirt coming at us. We protected the planes for a while and then some rain drops threatened us, and it looked like another wall of dirt was approaching so I called it off. If we had been in the air when that storm arrived it would have been very ugly! It was a great practice for the team and a good warmup for the contest. Many thanks to the CASL club for the great contest they put on this weekend! George and his crew worked through a few teething pains and got things running smoothly by the second day. Its a ton of work to put on a contest of this size and a very small crew of dedicated members made it happen! The weather was great, the landings were challenging but not ridiculous and we landed mostly crosswind, not downwind. There was a lot of up air and some gnarly down. As other have said, the format was a mixture of international duration (that a lot of folks call precision duration) and a 3 flight add-em-up with 23 minutes out of 30. The add-em-up is a great format for a called flight order event, since it gives you a little slack if you are called up in the big sink cycle, and there were a few of those. The down side is that a lot of folks will make their times so the landing are even more important. Daryl was a machine in the LZ and Joe made a great comeback in the landing zone on the second day to jump into second place. Junior Joseph Newcomb from the RMSA club captured 3rd place with a consistent landing performance. On a personal note I was having a great event, landing well with a couple of 25s and was in 6th place before the last round. A bad decision to covet another thermal across the field, and the disgusting sink in between forced me to miss my time and significantly drop my position L Im getting really good at having learning experiences We did some fund raising for the US F3J team, selling tee shirts and raffle tickets at this event and we did very well! Thanks to all the pilots and others that gave generously to support the team, your contributions are much appreciated. Our major sponsors, Airtronics, JR and Kennedy Composites deserve much credit for supporting this team and soaring in general. Be sure to thank them with your patronage! We still have a long way to go to meet the budget for taking the team to the World Championships in Martin Slovakia, so please support the team by purchasing a shirt, or some raffle tickets for the Airtronics radio and the Supra, or just make a donation at http://www.usf3jteam.com. Be sure to plan to make this event in 2007 its always a challenge and lots of fun! Jim Jim Monaco US F3J Team Manager 2006
[RCSE] SWC Top 3
Top three in open class were,,,
1st - DP
2nd - JW
3rd - Joseph Newcomb
Great event CASL club! Thank you for a great weekend.
John Diniz
-Original Message-
From: Darwin N. Barrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sat 2/11/2006 10:47 PM
To: soaring@airage.com
Cc:
Subject: [RCSE] SWC
Well, much of it has been said already. The weather was great, light
winds, warm and lots of thermals. As noted the excitement of the day was an
ICON going into the wires and knocking power out to 20,000 people. The second
interesting note of the day was JOE WURTS making the shame with landing
way out from the LZ. Also, DP had a 5 minute flight
on a 10 minute add'em up. They are mortal.
The results are not important because of the add'em up. Tomorrow should
be much more of the same conditions.
Regarding the Supra's, they fly well and launch great. At this point no
specific model has an advantage over another.
The sun was intense. So intense that Ed Whyte is now Ed Red!!! For
those of you stuck in the middle of cold country, give this event a thought.
Today was classic Phx metro weather. The only downside to the venue is the 116
days without rain. The grass was not green and things were a little dustier
than normal.
Darwin N. Barrie
Chandler AZ
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[RCSE] SWC
It's over. The full scoring will be posted soon. The top three were 1) Daryl Perkins, 2) Joe Wurts 3) Joe Newcomb. The weather was incredible and very warm, the warmest I can remember. Thermals were everywhere but it you didn't get one you were screwed. The off field landings were abundant, (and this is a big field). Also, no one hit the wires today!! Daryl was flying his Insanity and Joe Wurts a Supra. Again proving that it is much more pilot than plane. As the Supra gains flight time and the "common man" pilots get more experience they will move up the food chain in the contests. Unfortunately with two of the best soaring pilots in the world taking the top two spots, clearly it isn't all plane. Join us next year. Darwin N. Barrie Chandler AZ
[RCSE] SWC - Scores/Photos/Thanks
Flying from HNL to PHX - AMEX Miles Staying with a friend - Great! Flying in awesome conditions with my friends my AVA for 3 days - Priceless! ;) Scores will be on www.rcsoaring.com in a little while tonight. Also, I received a lot of pictures which I will posting later tonight/this week/as time allows... Thanks to CASL for all their hard work to run this contest...We all greatly appreciate it. Joe RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[Fwd: Re: [RCSE] SWC]
Original Message Subject: Re: [RCSE] SWC From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:Sat, February 11, 2006 1:11 am To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The Supra is a car from Toyota I've seen them flyin down the freeway What is a Supra Is that a new kind of Soap??? Dr. Dan WIlliams Co Springs,Co ~~~ Heck, I'd be up for any news from yesterday or today... anybody fly a Supra in the F3J team practice? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] SWC
Simple. Marta Zavala won the whole contest with his Supra. Any news about how it went today ? Regards, Dave Corven. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] SWC
Yes, with the Supra, the pilot need not even be present to win -even if he is called a boy named Marta. Walter - Original Message - From: Jon Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 11:15 AM Subject: RE: [RCSE] SWC Simple. Marta Zavala won the whole contest with his Supra. Any news about how it went today ? Regards, Dave Corven. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] SWC
Looking forward to hearing first day results. Are they flying addem up this year? If so 1st day results for manyare pretty much meaningless. Walter
Re: [RCSE] SWC
I left before the scores were posted today. The first round was 4 minutes and then there were 4 rounds of add-em up with a total of 33 minutes. However things were running behind so they shortened it to 3 rounds of 23 minutes (my numbers may be a little off). Weather was nice with a little breeze pushing the thermals away from the field pretty quick and causing a few to land off-field. The real excitement was a plane hitting the power lines south of the field on friday. And then an Icon getting fried on the same power lines today. The icon hung there for a while burning until it finally burned right through the power line, bringing it down. (both times cutting power to the whole farm community and getting the local utility company scrambling some trucks out - neither were happy with us) I don't know if you have ever seen a plane fry on the wires but it makes an awesome flash/noise/mushroom cloud of black smoke! BAP Today after the Icon cut the power, I was out by the end of the field looking for a dropped pocketknife when I heard a plane hit the power lines again right behind me! Luckily the power was off, or this Cherry-red Supra woulda been BBQ ship #3. It was unscathed. So far as the Supras go - they fly well, but without the anticipated miraculousness. I found the pocketknife BTW. On 2/11/06, Marta Zavala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking forward to hearing first day results. Are they flying addem up this year? If so 1st day results for many are pretty much meaningless. Walter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] SWC
Thanks for the report Paul. Glad you found your knife! Yep Ive seen seen an F3B plane fry. So as far as you could tell the Supras didnt impress the SWC crop circle makin aliens - man Im bummed ! Here Im trying my best to put together a Supra Killer and youre tellin me there aint gonna be nuthin to kill- just my luck! Guess I better get back on that Icon list. Thanks again, Walter - Original Message - From: Paul Emerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Marta Zavala [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: soaring@airage.com Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] SWC I left before the scores were posted today. The first round was 4 minutes and then there were 4 rounds of add-em up with a total of 33 minutes. However things were running behind so they shortened it to 3 rounds of 23 minutes (my numbers may be a little off). Weather was nice with a little breeze pushing the thermals away from the field pretty quick and causing a few to land off-field. The real excitement was a plane hitting the power lines south of the field on friday. And then an Icon getting fried on the same power lines today. The icon hung there for a while burning until it finally burned right through the power line, bringing it down. (both times cutting power to the whole farm community and getting the local utility company scrambling some trucks out - neither were happy with us) I don't know if you have ever seen a plane fry on the wires but it makes an awesome flash/noise/mushroom cloud of black smoke! BAP Today after the Icon cut the power, I was out by the end of the field looking for a dropped pocketknife when I heard a plane hit the power lines again right behind me! Luckily the power was off, or this Cherry-red Supra woulda been BBQ ship #3. It was unscathed. So far as the Supras go - they fly well, but without the anticipated miraculousness. I found the pocketknife BTW. On 2/11/06, Marta Zavala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking forward to hearing first day results. Are they flying addem up this year? If so 1st day results for many are pretty much meaningless. Walter RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] SWC
Well, much of it has been said already. The weather was great, light winds, warm and lots of thermals. As noted the excitement of the day was an ICON going into the wires and knocking power out to 20,000 people. The second interesting note of the day was JOE WURTS making the shamewith landing way out from the LZ. Also, DP had a 5 minute flight on a 10 minute add'em up. They are mortal. The results are not important because of the add'em up. Tomorrow should be much more of the same conditions. Regarding the Supra's, they fly well and launch great. At this point no specific model has an advantage over another. The sun was intense. So intense that Ed Whyte is now Ed Red!!! For those of you stuck in the middle of cold country, give this event a thought. Today was classic Phx metro weather. The only downside to the venue is the 116 days without rain. The grass was not green and things were a little dustier than normal. Darwin N. Barrie Chandler AZ
[RCSE] SWC
Any news about how it went today ? Regards, Dave Corven. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] SWC...a minor event not worth reporting????
We'll see..I'm pretty sure that our AMA Soaring columnist (and local) will give us an update. No I didn't imply that, in this case, or in the case of this event each year, actions have spoken louder than words...un printed :-( I know that the F3j got blown out after a few rounds. But today and the weekend should be ...well Visalia like. Warm and calm with all the usual crap SWC weather blowing into Atlanta tonite and tomorrow. Glad they got a break. Maybe someone will figure that SWC deserves some news updates :-) Likely something fun happened during today's practice day. Gordy Freezing in Atlanta...if its Sunday I must be in Puerto Vallarta
Re: [RCSE] SWC
Heck, I'd be up for any news from yesterday or today... anybody fly a Supra in the F3J team practice? At 09:33 PM 2/10/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any news about how it went today ? Regards, Dave Corven. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of the Chicago SOAR club, and Team JR AMA 592537LSF 7560 Level IV R/C Soaring blog at www.jimbacus.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] SWC, a minor event doesn't list sailplanes flown....So which is it?
NO PILOT flies a task with out a teammate...his sailplane. While we personally love every pilot flying...all of our interest (especially this time of year! :-) is what they flew. Come one SWC guys, step up and show the WORLD that the SWC is a USA major. Share the fun for us who have to toil other places. Wish we all were there to see for ourselves.! Gordy
Re: [RCSE] SWC
There is some stuff on SWC by a couple of guys, Mike Lee and another, on RCGroups - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 7:33 PM Subject: [RCSE] SWC Any news about how it went today ? Regards, Dave Corven. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] SWC
Sorry Gordy, wasn't out there yesterday. My 82 year old mom needed to go to a Doctors appointment so I didn't get to go. Daryl is staying at my house and reported there was some really weird weather during the F3J practice and sorta contest. Three roundswere flown but I don't have the results. The weather for the weekend will be excellent. Contrary to popular belief, there have only been a couple of bad weather days in the past few years. Ya just remember that bad days!!! I'll give a report tomorrow night. You should come out here for the contest sometime Gordy. I think you'd like it and, since Karlton and Sal don't come out anymore we could use someone to beat up. Darwin N. Barrie Chandler AZ
[RCSE] SWC report from RC Groups..yipes
Not exactly the kind of news I wanted to tune into sittinginmy motel waiting for snow in Atlanta But this is about it so far...:-( Hope Mike decides that there are fun things to report about, he's a great stick and better columnisthard ground I've seen before...but Supra's in JW's paws, DP Insanity and Giants walking the skies...and towmen pulled out of the shoes...now that's good read'n. Gordythe U.S. F3J Teams appearred for a team practice and contest open to anyone who wished to fly. About 24 pilots were signed up and the weather for the day started with cool overcast and variable winds of only 3 MPH. Lift was very spotty and light. We got three round of flying in with lift getting good about an hour into the event. And then came lunch...and a wind storm...and just enough sprinkling rain to make the dust stick your car, your plane, your radio, you...and everything else. Contest ended.Pilots coming to Phoenix...beware! What looks like grass on the field is actually dried stubs of what once was grass. The ground is hard and there will be carnage to those who choose to dork with any force. Be prepared for lots of dust. And I mean a lot! Even the dead grass has dust that then leaps to your shoes and you look like you have been marching across the Gobi Desert in five minutes. If you have asthma...be prepared. And bring lots of water!Mike Lee
Re: [RCSE] SWC
What is a Supra Is that a new kind of Soap??? Dr. Dan WIlliamsCo Springs,Co ~~~ Heck, I'd be up for any news from yesterday or today... anybody fly a Supra in the F3J team practice?At 09:33 PM 2/10/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Any news about how it went today ?Regards, Dave Corven.Jim
[RCSE] SWC on Google Earth
I was just checking out the flying site at Schnepf Farms for the Southwest Classic. Looks like the Schnepf people have done some creative mowing. Check out their crops from about 4,000 ft... JE -- Erickson Architects John R. Erickson, AIA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] SWC on Google Earth
On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 05:34:33PM -0800, John Erickson wrote: | I was just checking out the flying site at Schnepf Farms for the Southwest | Classic. Looks like the Schnepf people have done some creative mowing. | Check out their crops from about 4,000 ft... Cute. To save somebody the trouble of finding it, just hit this URL -- http://maps.google.com/maps?f=qhl=enq=+22601+East+Cloud+Road++Queen+Creek,+Arizona+85242ll=33.225679,-111.595801spn=0.005735,0.01222t=k Looks like a nice place to fly ... -- Doug McLaren, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blessed are they that run around in circles, for they shall be known as wheels. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] SWC on Google Earth
That was from 2004 in October during their Holloween themed festival. The 2005 corn maze was Jay Leno. The google earth stuff is not real current. Darwin N. Barrie Chandler AZ - Original Message - From: Doug McLaren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Soaring List Soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [RCSE] SWC on Google Earth On Mon, Feb 06, 2006 at 05:34:33PM -0800, John Erickson wrote: | I was just checking out the flying site at Schnepf Farms for the Southwest | Classic. Looks like the Schnepf people have done some creative mowing. | Check out their crops from about 4,000 ft... Cute. To save somebody the trouble of finding it, just hit this URL -- http://maps.google.com/maps?f=qhl=enq=+22601+East+Cloud+Road++Queen+Creek,+Arizona+85242ll=33.225679,-111.595801spn=0.005735,0.01222t=k Looks like a nice place to fly ... -- Doug McLaren, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blessed are they that run around in circles, for they shall be known as wheels. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] SWC on Google Earth
What? Crop circles at the SWC - must be the ailiens spying on the Supra. They feel like theyre falling behind! Walter - Orginal Message - From: John Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Soaring List Soaring@airage.com Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 5:34 PM Subject: [RCSE] SWC on Google Earth I was just checking out the flying site at Schnepf Farms for the Southwest Classic. Looks like the Schnepf people have done some creative mowing. Check out their crops from about 4,000 ft... JE -- Erickson Architects John R. Erickson, AIA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] SWC sign ups
Hello All, The CASL Club has opened sign ups for all 3 classes at the SWC. Those of you who have been asking can now get in all classes, get those cards and letters in. We will be closing registration Feb 3rd. Smooth Landings George RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] SWC sign ups
Will there be a listing soon on the CASL site showing entries, frequencies, etc?? George Joy wrote: Hello All, The CASL Club has opened sign ups for all 3 classes at the SWC. Those of you who have been asking can now get in all classes, get those cards and letters in. We will be closing registration Feb 3rd. Smooth Landings George RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] SWC Pilots List
Never mind - I see the listing now!!! Last I looked it was not there (a few days ago). RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] SWC sign ups
George, Sorry I had to cancel my entry (ch 56), but you can keep the entry fee and add it too the pot. Ray Hayes http://www.skybench.com Home of Wood Crafters - Original Message - From: George Joy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 11:03 AM Subject: [RCSE] SWC sign ups Hello All, The CASL Club has opened sign ups for all 3 classes at the SWC. Those of you who have been asking can now get in all classes, get those cards and letters in. We will be closing registration Feb 3rd. Smooth Landings George RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] SWC sign ups
To all my Friends ( the few I think I have that is ) I just want to say I will not be able to go this year to the SWC. As it stands right now everything is pointing to the fact that our12 year oldson's brain cancer is back and will be going through treatment duringthis time and then some,so I can not justify leaving the family at this time unless I can find a way to clone myself quickly... So I will see some of you at the NATS"V" and a few other contest's later in the year if all goes well. Dr. Danny WilliamsColorado Springs, Co
[RCSE] SWC
What are the dates for the Southwest Classic this year? The CASL web site doesn't have the information for dates or registration. I can't sign up if I don't know when? Ron Kukral SOAR Chicago RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] SWC
My understanding is that it will be Feb 11-12. There has not been an announcement opening registration yet. George Joy will be the CD. This is a good change in the dates, in previous years we ran concurrent with a big golf tournament and that made rooms and flights more difficult to get. And we also avoid the Superbowl conflict on the 5th. Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 8:57 AM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] SWC What are the dates for the Southwest Classic this year? The CASL web site doesn't have the information for dates or registration. I can't sign up if I don't know when? Ron Kukral SOAR Chicago RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] SWC
Feb 11 12. The CASL folks are working on the website right now and should have it updated very soon. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are the dates for the Southwest Classic this year? The CASL web site doesn't have the information for dates or registration. I can't sign up if I don't know when? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] SWC
The web site is being finished up right now for registration. The contest is the SECOND weekend of February this year. The dates were changed due to many conflicts including, the Super Bowl, Phx Open, etc Some may say, what does that have to do with the contest? Simple, we had trouble getting enough help to work last year. This year will be better without the conflict. George and I are both CD's for the event. Darwin N. Barrie Chandler AZ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 9:56 AM Subject: [RCSE] SWC What are the dates for the Southwest Classic this year? The CASL web site doesn't have the information for dates or registration. I can't sign up if I don't know when? Ron Kukral SOAR Chicago RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] SWC
Ask and ye shall recieve. Thanks to all who responded. I also found that as of this morning, the CASL web site is updated. Ron Kukral SOAR Chicago -- Forwarded Message: - From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Subject: SWC Date:Thu, 17 Nov 2005 15:56:58 + What are the dates for the Southwest Classic this year? The CASL web site doesn't have the information for dates or registration. I can't sign up if I don't know when? Ron Kukral SOAR Chicago RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] SWC
Registration is now available at http://www.casl.net/swc.html Paul www.casl.net On 11/17/05, Darwin N. Barrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The web site is being finished up right now for registration. The contest is the SECOND weekend of February this year. The dates were changed due to many conflicts including, the Super Bowl, Phx Open, etc Some may say, what does that have to do with the contest? Simple, we had trouble getting enough help to work last year. This year will be better without the conflict. George and I are both CD's for the event. Darwin N. Barrie Chandler AZ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 9:56 AM Subject: [RCSE] SWC What are the dates for the Southwest Classic this year? The CASL web site doesn't have the information for dates or registration. I can't sign up if I don't know when? Ron Kukral SOAR Chicago RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] SWC
My understanding is that it will be Feb 11-12. There has not been an announcement opening registration yet. George Joy will be the CD. This is a good change in the dates, in previous years we ran concurrent with a big golf tournament and that made rooms and flights more difficult to get. And we also avoid the Superbowl conflict on the 5th. Jim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 8:57 AM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] SWC What are the dates for the Southwest Classic this year? The CASL web site doesn't have the information for dates or registration. I can't sign up if I don't know when? Ron Kukral SOAR Chicago RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] SWC Entry Open
CASL has updated the website complete with PayPal registration if you want it. http://www.public.asu.edu/~vansanfo/casl/swc.html RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] SWC 2006 Proposed Date Change
Fellow pilots, CASL is considering moving the SWC date to the second weekend in February, due to the fact that our event conflicts with the Northwest R/C show in Puyallup, the Superbowl and the Phoenix Open. The NW RC show costs us some vendors, the Superbowl costs us volenteers, and the Phoenix Open is just a traffic and hotel room nightmare. We are very aware that some of you make plans for our event well in advance, so we are tring to get a feel for the impact of the proposed change. Please respond by this Friday so if we decide to make the change we can announce it ASAP. Sorry if you are receiving two or more copies of this e-mail, but I am trying to make sure all past contestants get this message. PS the dates for 2006, if we decide to change, would be Feb 11-12. Thank you for your time, Paul Emerson CASL board member and webmaster www.casl.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] SWC 2006 Proposed Date Change
I definitely support the change of dates for the SW. Darwin - Original Message - From: Paul Emerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CASL-L CASL discussion list [EMAIL PROTECTED]; RCSE soaring@airage.com Cc: Aaron [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Justin Ammon [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Alan Metzger [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Erich Van Sanford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 3:11 PM Subject: [RCSE] SWC 2006 Proposed Date Change Fellow pilots, CASL is considering moving the SWC date to the second weekend in February, due to the fact that our event conflicts with the Northwest R/C show in Puyallup, the Superbowl and the Phoenix Open. The NW RC show costs us some vendors, the Superbowl costs us volenteers, and the Phoenix Open is just a traffic and hotel room nightmare. We are very aware that some of you make plans for our event well in advance, so we are tring to get a feel for the impact of the proposed change. Please respond by this Friday so if we decide to make the change we can announce it ASAP. Sorry if you are receiving two or more copies of this e-mail, but I am trying to make sure all past contestants get this message. PS the dates for 2006, if we decide to change, would be Feb 11-12. Thank you for your time, Paul Emerson CASL board member and webmaster www.casl.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] SWC Flyoff between Goldsmith and Markiewicz
Hi All, I have the wrong trophy from SWC (after the scoring changes). Anyhow, the 9th place trophy I have in my posession belongs to either Arthur or Peter (they tied). So, I'm conducting the flyoff to determine who I should send the trophy. I have selected a whole minute flight task time between 2 and 10 minutes, but I won't tell you what it is. Please, respond with your actual flight time for the flyoff (or what you think you'd fly) and I'll tell you who the winner was. Cheers, Mark -- markf3x markf3x's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?action=getinfouserid=56052 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=333419 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] SWC Flyoff between Goldsmith and Markiewicz
Mark, Hold on to that for now. We are sorting things out. Darwin - Original Message - From: markf3x [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 1:25 PM Subject: [RCSE] SWC Flyoff between Goldsmith and Markiewicz Hi All, I have the wrong trophy from SWC (after the scoring changes). Anyhow, the 9th place trophy I have in my posession belongs to either Arthur or Peter (they tied). So, I'm conducting the flyoff to determine who I should send the trophy. I have selected a whole minute flight task time between 2 and 10 minutes, but I won't tell you what it is. Please, respond with your actual flight time for the flyoff (or what you think you'd fly) and I'll tell you who the winner was. Cheers, Mark -- markf3x markf3x's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?action=getinfouserid=56052 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=333419 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] SWC Flyoff between Goldsmith and Markiewicz
Actually that is a 3-way tie for 9th that includes Skip Miller Jim Jim Monaco -Original Message- From: markf3x [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 1:26 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] SWC Flyoff between Goldsmith and Markiewicz Hi All, I have the wrong trophy from SWC (after the scoring changes). Anyhow, the 9th place trophy I have in my posession belongs to either Arthur or Peter (they tied). So, I'm conducting the flyoff to determine who I should send the trophy. I have selected a whole minute flight task time between 2 and 10 minutes, but I won't tell you what it is. Please, respond with your actual flight time for the flyoff (or what you think you'd fly) and I'll tell you who the winner was. Cheers, Mark -- markf3x markf3x's Profile: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/member.php?action=getinfouserid=56052 View this thread: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=333419 RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] SWC Scores By Rouud
Joe Nave has done a real nice set of graphs showing the distribution of times by flight group with one graph for each round. Its very interesting. Here is the link: http://www.rcsoaring.com/scores/05casldetails/05casldetails.htm Thanks for the work Joe, Hank Schorz ** Henry P. Schorz Executive Vice President - Chief Scientist ACT Litigation Services 27200 tourney Road Suite 450 Valencia, Ca 91355 PH: (661) 284-6401 x232 FX: (661) 284-7654 ** Confidentiality Notice: The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments may be legally privileged and confidential. If you are not an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and permanently delete the e-mail and any attachments immediately. You should not retain, copy or use this e-mail or any attachment for any purpose, nor disclose all or any part of the contents to any other person. Thank you in advance for your cooperation.
[RCSE] SWC Scores By Round, interesting to see which groups got...
...hosed ! :-) It sort of shows the thermal cycles for each day. What will be awesome is to see what a Man on Man contest would look like in comparison. Thanks Joe! Great stuff! Gordy now if we can get a listing of the sailplanes flown :-)
Re: [RCSE] SWC Scores By Rouud
So are these thefinal, final scores,,, and what is with scoring errors on big contests lately? I wasn't there just want to knowwho were therealwinners. joe - Original Message - From: Hank Schorz To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 9:00 AM Subject: [RCSE] SWC Scores By Rouud Joe Nave has done a real nice set of graphs showing the distribution of times by flight group with one graph for each round. Its very interesting. Here is the link: http://www.rcsoaring.com/scores/05casldetails/05casldetails.htm Thanks for the work Joe, Hank Schorz ** Henry P. Schorz Executive Vice President - Chief Scientist ACT Litigation Services 27200 tourney Road Suite 450 Valencia, Ca 91355 PH: (661) 284-6401 x232 FX: (661) 284-7654 ** Confidentiality Notice: The information contained in this e-mail and any attachments may be legally privileged and confidential. If you are not an intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and permanently delete the e-mail and any attachments immediately. You should not retain, copy or use this e-mail or any attachment for any purpose, nor disclose all or any part of the contents to any other person. Thank you in advance for your cooperation.
[RCSE] SWC Thanks and Congratulations
This is simply a great contest... Even when the TSA tries to take the tail off of your airplane on the way, then the automatic door on the minivan tries to finish the job! I had a great time out there again flying against all (most) of the big names from the Western US... we missed you this year Joe! We're all a bit jetlagged and tired but it's a hell of a way to kick off the contest season after three or four months of overcast, snow, ice, and cold. The rust comes off quick when you realize that every landing you miss drops you 30 places in the standings! Great flying Daryl and Mike. The conditions were much more challenging than last year and these guys just pegged it as usual. This was the first time I can remember slipping a pound of ballast in an airframe at 7:30 in the morning. ... and the usual (but well deserved) thanks to the CASL crew. They ran a great contest at a great soaring site once again! Tom Siler (Only Pretty Mantis West of the Missippi last weekend) Columbus, OH RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] SWC
I only to a peak at the scores, didn't care that much.Had to go catch an airplane before it was over. I live in Ohio and came for the weather. Sat alone was worth the trip. Maybe that was because of the twenty you found.. You guys do a great job. This was my fourth trip, hope to make it five nexth year Jerry Shape RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
RE: [RCSE] SWC Scores and Pictures
Congratulations to Daryl Perkins who finish 1st and 162nd. ?? :) gv -Original Message- From: Joe Nave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 10:08 PM To: soaring@airage.com Subject: [RCSE] SWC Scores and Pictures Congratulations to the winners! Scores are online at www.rcsoaring.com If anyone would like to share pictures they took, please contact me, as I would like to post them on the site for all to enjoy. Thanks, Joe == Joe Nave NetMeister, Inc. InterNetwork Design Integration 1146 N. Central Avenue #112 Glendale, CA 91202 - 818.247.5340 Fax 818.247.5073 == What do you want to network today? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] SWC Scores and Pictures
Congratulations to the winners! Scores are online at www.rcsoaring.com If anyone would like to share pictures they took, please contact me, as I would like to post them on the site for all to enjoy. Thanks, Joe == Joe Nave NetMeister, Inc. InterNetwork Design Integration 1146 N. Central Avenue #112 Glendale, CA 91202 - 818.247.5340 Fax 818.247.5073 == What do you want to network today? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
[RCSE] SWC
Are there any preliminary results available yet ? Regards, Dave Corven. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. Email sent from web based email such as Hotmail and AOL are generally NOT in text format
Re: [RCSE] SWC
I don't know how many entries they have but I know mine has been sent in a few weeks ago and I have not seen it on the list. But Bill you won't have to worry about me taking the win away from you. The main reason that we leave Utah is to go and defrost in pheonix. But if I get the sticks unfrozen on my radio you might have to place that irish curse on me so you can win that silly launch, fly and land contestSee You there Clarence Ashcraft Transmitter Impound 98,00,02,04 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home of Soar Utah 2004 http://www.silentflyer.org/ - Original Message - From: Bill Malvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 11:41 PM Subject: [RCSE] SWC So far it looks like entries for the SWC in Phoenix (well OK, western Globe) are not all that robust yet. Which is good in my book. I want to thank all of you. PLEASE, if you are thinking about coming, DON'T. As it stands right now, if there are enough no-shows (say 18 to 25), I stand a pretty good chance of getting a top 10 finish!! Gas prices are pretty high, the weather in Phoenix can be touch and go in February (will it be 72 or 74 today??), and really, it's just another silly contest. I strongly urge ALL of you to stay home with your families. Enjoy some quality time. Bond with the kids. Mow the lawn. For me, the less the merrier to be sure!! For you spiteful ba$tards out there who will surely want to deprive me of my higher than deserved finish, you can go here to enter: http://www.public.asu.edu/~vansanfo/casl/swc.html Of course, I will place an old Irish curse upon you and your house for doing so. And will certainly NOT share any of my beer with you. But at least you cannot say I did not warn you!!! I mean it's just another one of those boring, Launch, Fly, Land things. How many of THOSE can you do before you fall into a coma?? Hoping not to see any of you soon. ~~~ Bill Malvey RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] SWC
On 11/21/04 7:40 Clarence Ashcraft wrote: I don't know how many entries they have but I know mine has been sent in a few weeks ago I guess you can be Grandfathered in and escape my Hex. But for the rest of you, there really is no excuse. ~~~ Bill Malvey RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] SWC
So far it looks like entries for the SWC in Phoenix (well OK, western Globe) are not all that robust yet. Which is good in my book. I want to thank all of you. PLEASE, if you are thinking about coming, DON'T. As it stands right now, if there are enough no-shows (say 18 to 25), I stand a pretty good chance of getting a top 10 finish!! Gas prices are pretty high, the weather in Phoenix can be touch and go in February (will it be 72 or 74 today??), and really, it's just another silly contest. I strongly urge ALL of you to stay home with your families. Enjoy some quality time. Bond with the kids. Mow the lawn. For me, the less the merrier to be sure!! For you spiteful ba$tards out there who will surely want to deprive me of my higher than deserved finish, you can go here to enter: http://www.public.asu.edu/~vansanfo/casl/swc.html Of course, I will place an old Irish curse upon you and your house for doing so. And will certainly NOT share any of my beer with you. But at least you cannot say I did not warn you!!! I mean it's just another one of those boring, Launch, Fly, Land things. How many of THOSE can you do before you fall into a coma?? Hoping not to see any of you soon. ~~~ Bill Malvey RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] SWC
It's not on the website yet, but there will also be HLG golf, HLG, Slo-stick combat, and I think a night-time flying wing pylon race. Good food and good people - better avoid the whole mess so Bill can place ;) Paul www.casl.net On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 22:41:45 -0800, Bill Malvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So far it looks like entries for the SWC in Phoenix (well OK, western Globe) are not all that robust yet. Which is good in my book. I want to thank all of you. PLEASE, if you are thinking about coming, DON'T. As it stands right now, if there are enough no-shows (say 18 to 25), I stand a pretty good chance of getting a top 10 finish!! Gas prices are pretty high, the weather in Phoenix can be touch and go in February (will it be 72 or 74 today??), and really, it's just another silly contest. I strongly urge ALL of you to stay home with your families. Enjoy some quality time. Bond with the kids. Mow the lawn. For me, the less the merrier to be sure!! For you spiteful ba$tards out there who will surely want to deprive me of my higher than deserved finish, you can go here to enter: http://www.public.asu.edu/~vansanfo/casl/swc.html Of course, I will place an old Irish curse upon you and your house for doing so. And will certainly NOT share any of my beer with you. But at least you cannot say I did not warn you!!! I mean it's just another one of those boring, Launch, Fly, Land things. How many of THOSE can you do before you fall into a coma?? Hoping not to see any of you soon. ~~~ Bill Malvey RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] SWC
Any preliminary scores from the Southwest Classic?
[RCSE] SWC 2004 - Hand-launch Golf
For those of you attending this year's SWC 2004, CASL will be hosting a Hand-launch Golf Tournament on the afternoon of Friday, February 6th. This year we will be playing at the newly remodeled (they added a tree) Fiesta Lakes Golf Club, with adjacent clubhouse (Denny's). Tee-Off will be at 3pm. and green fees will be $12 at the gate. In order to manage the course times and frequency list you WILL need to pre-register for this event. Once registered I will send a follow-up email, in about a week, with directions and full details. Registration is easy! Just send your name, contact information, and frequency choice to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Frequency choice is on a first-come first-served basis! This event will be STRICTLY limited to the first 2500 people so register early! See you there - Jeff Sansoterra CASL www.casl.net RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] SWC SS Combat - How Many Pilots?
Mike Lee is hosting a Slo-Stik combat event on Sat. at the South West Classic. We have heard that the San Diego guys are going to have a squadron there for it, but we were hoping to get an idea of just how many will be competing. This event should be fun in monsterous proportions for both spectators and contestants alike. So, who's in? Wiggle your sticks David Judson Riverside, CA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] SWC Vendor-Sponsorship Info
I know there are some vendors out there lurking that would like to have the opportunity to display wares at the upcoming contest in Phoenix. Check the following link for all vendor/sponsorship information: http://www.public.asu.edu/~vansanfo/casl/swc_data/sponsorship04.doc Thanks, Garland Hanson CASL
[RCSE] SWC
Hi all, Jo I have finally gotten settled here in Gilbert, AZ. I am now a member of the CASL club and have put in my 2 cents to help get this contest flowing smoothly this year. The committee has done a great job of correcting some downfalls from last year. I think you are going to like this years contest. So if you haven't signed up yet, you still have a small window of opportunity to get in. To that end, Jo informed me that she would provide a home made Lasagna dinner to anyone who shows up at the house on Friday evening between 5 and 7pm. I asked her if she realized that could be 200 people! She gave me a funny look and said No way! I guess we will see. I'll have flyers out at the field on Friday afternoon with directions. The address is: 934 East Houston Ave. Gilbert,AZ 852344. COME ONE, COME ALL!! Help us celebrate our new home. BTW, Please bring your own drinks. Hope to see most of you there George Jo RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] SWC?
Is there any info on the SWC for next year? Usually the registration starts about now. Jim RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] SWC Landing Circle
PS, one of the reasons for this landing was to minimize time and people in the landing zone. You know right away what the score is and you don't need to measure. We wouldn't have been able to turn the LZ around for upwind landings because the planes would then have to make their final over the spectator area, so we were stuck with downwind landings once the wind came around. Mark Mech www.aerofoam.com The LZ as well as aerial pics of the pilots meeting and group photo can be seen at: http://www.aerofoam.com/swc2003.html RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] SWC Results
Congratulations to all the participants for the job well done! Also a very Special Thanks to Mike Lee and Manny Gomez for their excellent performance in difficult conditions. They were flying the Hobby Club Breeze-Plus and Breeze with second to none performance on their very expert fingers. Thanks for the widthband space, Alberto www.hobbyclub.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] SWC Landing Circle
About what size were the individual circles?? Thanks..Brian RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
Re: [RCSE] SWC Results - Landing Tasks
John, If the flaps being deployed caused a spinnaker effect wouldn't the wind be traveling fast enough to be flowing backwards across the wing thus making your glider drop from the sky like a rock. Flaps fully deployed should allow your glider to fly at it's slowest possible airspeed regardless of wind direction which is also the slowest possible ground speed for downwind landings. Zucker - Original Message - From: John Erickson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gordon Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Stack, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Soaring List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 8:55 AM Subject: Re: [RCSE] SWC Results - Landing Tasks From the department of statistical analysis... There were 700 landings attempted at the SWC. 483 had a zero 135 had a 25 62 had a 50 20 had a 75 0 had (or tried) a 100 A petri dish has a side to it; it's obvious that we could have used that. Personally I enjoyed watching people throw flaps downwind and have the same effect of a boat throwing out the spinnaker. The plane would begin to speed up. Mike Reagan pointed out something to me that I didn't figure out till the 5th round. Put your plane down on the time. Due to the triathalon scoring the penalty on either side of the target time is extreme. If you are off by 5 seconds, that is 35 points. I was off by a few seconds compensating for the downwind. Attempting a landing at that point isn't really worth it! If you had just put your plane down anywhere on the field, on the buzzer, and you made your time, you would have been in 10th place. JE -- Erickson Architects John R. Erickson, AIA From: Gordon Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 18:53:23 -0800 To: Stack, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] SWC Results - Landing Tasks Dave, The landing task looked like an 8-foot petri dish with 3 different kinds of fungus growing in it. In the upper right corner there was a 3 foot diameter patch of what looked to be athlete's foot that was worth 50 points. In the lower right corner was a 2-foot growth of what may have been trench mouth, worth 75 points. In the lower left corner was an itty-bitty circle, well under a foot in diameter, that was most certainly ergot. It was worth 100 points. Anywhere in the big circle but out of the smaller circles was worth 25 points. As far as I know, nobody got the 100. Upwind (which happened about 5% of the contest) the 50 and 75 were doable, although judging the slide in that cement with occasional soft spots that the AZ folks call turf was iffy. Downwind or crosswind, which was all of the rest of the time, you just slammed 'er in there and hoped the skeg would keep you out of the safety fence. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] SWC
Thanks to CASL for hosting the 2 day event. The logistics behind a big contest are extensive; their is a lot of work behind the scenes, all of it voluntary. Without the effort we wouldn't even be able to tell stories like these: With all the skeg/no skeg conversation on the board I wish the no skeg proponents could have flown this event. You had some of the top pilots in the world happy to be in a 2 meter circle for their landing, and they all had skegs. For a skegless plane to score a landing in a 10 mph downwind was a complete crapshoot. For those that say the pilot just isn't skilled enough at energy management, they are right! It's just that there isn't a pilot that skilled! The launches and landing were in the opposite direction, so no matter what you were either looking at a downwind launch and land into the wind, or an into the wind launch and a downwind landing. Most of the time it was between the two; crosswind on both launch and land. The contest was called off Sunday after the 6 minute round was flown. Winds were gusting to 30 mph. The round was started, called off and re-started, delayed for a 15 minute break, then after a vote, completed. It was pretty confusing. We ended up with 4 complete rounds on Saturday, and the one round on Sunday. When the wind calmed down it was beautiful weather in the 80's. Sunday never got there, but that is what you get with a 2 day contest. The database got scrambled up so I'm still not sure who won what. I think the top ten are correct, but 2 of the guys were also in Grey Cup, so who knows? Anyway, Gordon Jennings with his Icon didn't seem too fazed by the wind and flew a great contest. He's your winner! Fred Sage came in second flying his Compulsion. Joe W. had the lead going into Sunday, but he flew at a lousy time in the morning and didn't make his 6 minutes. With the Triathalon scoring you get buried if you are not right on with your time. The landing was a 2 meter circle for 25, with a 1 meter circle on the right side for a 50, a 1/2 meter circle behind it for a 75, and a little spot about the size of a bread plate off to the left side, by the back, for a 100. I didn't see one person attempt the 100. Most were putting down their planes about 3 feet in front of the circle and seeing what happened next. When the wind came around so you were landing into the wind, you saw the scores go up (predictably). During one stretch on Saturday when the landing were downwind I saw 5 consecutive planes flip on landing! I don't think I've ever seen that. 5 in a row flipping over. This was a new field for CASL and I think next year they will make some layout changes so the participants can be closer to the action and the walk won't be so far between launch and land. It was great to see flying buddies like Paul Siegel from Cinncinati (and his baby picture, ask to see it some time), Randy McCleave from Kansas City, Guy Russo from Idaho and all the others who made the trip. Between all the bratwurst and beer I think I put on 5 pounds, even after trying to get rid of it on the hand launch course and the walk from our area to the winch lines! Our tent was out in far right field, unfortunately. For those Bubble Dancer fans Barry Kennedy has a new plane called AVA that is being produced. The wing is made in the Ukraine with a carbon D-Tube and spar caps (like the Graphite, or my Photon). 124, full flying stab...39 ounces RTF! It is the ultimate floater. That being said, Barry packed up when the wind came up. It would have been 1 mile downwind if he launched. Like last year, when the wind came up planes were flying backward off the winch. That is always entertaining to watch. Anyway, thanks to CASL for all their effort. I had a good time. JE -- Erickson Architects John R. Erickson, AIA RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] SWC HLG-Golf Update
Sorry for the delay but all the final details on the upcoming HLG golf event, including a map, can be found at the following link. I'll be stopping by the clubhouse later today and will try to snap a couple of photos to post later. This will bea challenging course for our style of play. Over the holidays, I inadvertently combined two frequency lists. I believe I have sorted it out but PLEASE review the frequency listing to ensure that: 1. you are listed 2. you are listed with the proper frequency Let me know if you want to play or if your information is incorrect. We have one frequency conflict to sort out and one flyer with his freq TBA. Golf Website http://www.swlink.net/~ghanson/golf.htm Golf Freq. Listing http://www.swlink.net/~ghanson/pilots.htm Thanks, Garland Hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] CASL
Re: [RCSE] SWC HLG-Golf
I'm intrigued... How does one play golf with an HLG? Enquiring minds want to know. Cheers, Izak RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME turned off.
[RCSE] SWC HLG Contest
Guys, At the SWC they had a fun type HLG contest on Saturday evening (thanks Garland). It started out as an all up last down event with the first 3 to land not advancing to the next round. I am new to DLG launching so I thought this won't take long for me to be out. I surprised myself and stayed in much longer than I expected. I thought I had really started getting the hang of launching (read as getting cocky) after staying around as long as I had, when on what was my last and probably highest launch, I look up and here is John Erickson's plane cruising over above mine by a good 30'. Well needless to say it put be back into reality and showed me how far I still have to go on learning to launch. Well, after they had eliminated all but the last three pilots, they changed the task to the one with the longest inverted flight wins. The first to launch was Art M. who promptly set a mark of 42.6+ seconds. Joe W. launched next but did not get a normal Joe launch do to a loose throwing peg which netted him something in the mid 20's. Craig Greening was the last to launch and he ended up with a flight of around 42.2 seconds. I guess this goes to show where this discus launch stuff has gotten to. It was not that long ago a 40+ second flight right side up was a good dead air time. These guys are launching high enough to do it inverted now. It was some great fun to play and watch in this contest. See Ya, Pat McCleave Wichita, KS RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] SWC
Fred, This in no way trying to take anything away from Skip's great flying and landing but if it ever blew even 10 knots all weekend in Phoenix, we must fly in Hurricane force winds here in Kansas. I was there and I do not ever remember any wind over 5. Down wind and cross wind landings were definately the order of business but there is no reason to exagerate on the velocity. Oh BTW, if anyone was wondering, my landings pretty much sucked most of the weekend, thus the reason there was 60 pilots with better scores than mine. Congrats to Skip and all of the other Top 10 Flyers. Great job in challenging conditions. I would also like to congratulate David McCarthy (age 16) who placed 12th overall. Guys, you better watch your butts, this guy is coming hard. See Ya, Pat McCleave Wichita, KS However, to truly appreciate this level of proficiency, please remember that the majority of Skip's landings were occurring during gusty and turbulent conditions with down wind or cross wind vectors of 10-20 knots. That's astounding. The next time you're out practicing landings on a windy day, put a 14 circle out as your target and see how consistently you can park the nose on the spot when it's downwind/crosswind at 15 knots. Of course, you'd probably be a fool to practice in these conditions as damage to the glider is the usual consequence. _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] SWC
I was simply making an estimate of the wind speed. Since I seldom fly in windy conditions, my judgment may have been off. I don't recall anyone having a wind gauge set up so wind speed verification would be difficult. I based my assumption on the fact that most gliders coming off tow were simply hovering into the wind and it took them the entire time they were airborn (from two to eight minutes) to beat upwind the 100 yards necessary to close on the landing zone. If any thermal turns were attempted, the trip became even longer. In fact, RES or other light wing loading gliders were sometimes seen disappearing downwind unless they were pushing into the wind. Since the flying speed of most gliders at min sink is in the range from 10-20 knots, I thought that was a reasonable estimation of the wind speed. There was certainly no intent to exaggerate. Obviously there's a huge difference between the difficulty of landing in a head wind or tail wind even if it's less than 10 knots. IAC, whether it was 5 or 15 knots, the landing conditions were definitely difficult and the fact that Skip was able to cope as he did is certainly testimony to his proficiency. Fred RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] SWC Thoughts
Thanks to the whole CASL club for a great event! Saturday conditions were brutal everyone else has already described them and they were not exaggerating. Add-em-up is a little more forgiving in the time area, but things were tough enuff to easily lose the 6 minutes buffer on the first day. I managed a personal best performance and its great that it comes in a big contest like this. Its a great help to have awesome club members to help with timing and spotting. Saturday was mainly up to the flyer fly smooth, fly far and make sure you get back. I was flying my regular weight Eraser my backup plane after I lost my light Eraser Extreme on Friday. It seemed to be the tool for the job, for me at least. I got pretty close on all my times and mostly decent landings. 74 oz without ballast seemed to be just right for penetration and hang-time with the MH-32 on it. Obviously light weight was not a critical disadvantage Skip Miller was flying his Extreme and nailing his times and landings at about 63 oz. Charlie Miller was flying his Emerald and did awesome flying and landing to take 3rd. In fact, there were at least 3 Emeralds in the top 10 so that seemed to be working as well. Club member Doc Williams got 11th with his ICON. Hmmm various weights, various airfoils, various planforms all did well maybe its not the plane??? Thanks again to Dave W and the rest of the crew that kept things running smoothly both days. Thanks to my clubmates, who kept me as focused as I have ever been and special thanks to Skip, Lenny, Mike and Don who made sure I didnt do anything stupid. Its not so much I flew great as it was that I didnt make any major mistakes like I normally do. I still havent wiped the grin off my face! Next year is a must do I just have to remember not to tell my wife she should come down and hang out by the pool while I fly! Jim Monaco Rocky Mountain Soaring Association Denver, CO RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] SWC, a good test of who knows their gliders the best!!
First of all, congrats to Skip Miller for teaching us all how to land in not so-ideal conditions. Great job!! Good flying to all the top place pilots, lots of great flying took place this past weekend and people got to test how well their pilot skills came to play. You know what, congratulations to everyone for making it through this crazy contest and brought home their gliders in one piece. Conditions were a little rough on Saturday and it required those, Do some of your pilot stuff in order to land that bird on target. I'm glad for the most part not to see posts about one glider really being better than the other and that is why it made winners this past weekend. This contest in my opinion proved that point, you must get out and learn your plane and improve your landing skills. You can't always have perfect conditions when you are on final and waiting to slam that down elevator as you reach your target. All the top placing pilots had the right stuff this past weekend and as a result finished where they did. I know I'll be hitting the practice field and focus on my landings as well, you can never practice them enough!!! As always it was nice to finally meet and match the faces with the e-mails we exchange over this forum. This hobby of ours brings the best people together and in the process we have fun at being kids all over again. I hope more of you out in glider land get the chance to make it to some of these two-day contest, you really do make more friends each time you attend them. Special thanks to the CASL crew for hosting another exciting contest and I look forward to next year's contest. Edgar Vera The Soaring Junkie __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] SWC
Sorry Pat I had a wind meter at the SWC. (that is how I decide on how much weight to put into my Air Hog / Icon) Fred was pretty close as Saturday averaged about 10 knots all day long with gusts up to as high as 22 knots. Sorry the wind meter does not lie and this was on the ground away from the trees. The wind gradient was rather high so I suspect that the winds aloft were much higher. So this says allot for all who landed well all day Especially Skip. Nine points off from being in the Top Ten and eight of them were landing points. Dr. Dan Williams DC Broomfield, Co PPSS/SWSA/ President of RMSA. Bad roads bring good people and good roads bring bad people. From: Pat McCleave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE] SWC Fred, This in no way trying to take anything away from Skip's great flying and landing but if it ever blew even 10 knots all weekend in Phoenix, we must fly in Hurricane force winds here in Kansas. I was there and I do not ever remember any wind over 5. Down wind and cross wind landings were definately the order of business but there is no reason to exagerate on the velocity. Oh BTW, if anyone was wondering, my landings pretty much sucked most of the weekend, thus the reason there was 60 pilots with better scores than mine. Congrats to Skip and all of the other Top 10 Flyers. Great job in challenging conditions. I would also like to congratulate David McCarthy (age 16) who placed 12th overall. Guys, you better watch your butts, this guy is coming hard. See Ya, Pat McCleave Wichita, KS However, to truly appreciate this level of proficiency, please remember that the majority of Skip's landings were occurring during gusty and turbulent conditions with down wind or cross wind vectors of 10-20 knots. That's astounding. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] SWC
I'd also like to congratulate Skip Miller for his exceptional landing performance at the SWC. I don't know his individual round landing scores, but doing the math backward, you can determine his average landing. There were 3,460 possible points in the contest and Skip accumulated 3364 points. Assuming his addemup time was perfect at 46 minutes (probably the case), Skip only lost a total of 96 landing points through seven rounds. That means he only lost an average of 13.7 points per landing. Although that might not seem remarkable, please remember that these points were decrimenting at one point per inch instead of the normal AMA one point per three inches. If these landings had been flown on a standard AMA tape, they would have scored an average 95.5. For those that attend a lot of contests, that figure isn't particularly remarkable and has been duplicated numerous times. However, to truly appreciate this level of proficiency, please remember that the majority of Skip's landings were occurring during gusty and turbulent conditions with down wind or cross wind vectors of 10-20 knots. That's astounding. The next time you're out practicing landings on a windy day, put a 14 circle out as your target and see how consistently you can park the nose on the spot when it's downwind/crosswind at 15 knots. Of course, you'd probably be a fool to practice in these conditions as damage to the glider is the usual consequence. IAC, congratulations Skip! You sure humbled us at this contest. Fred RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] SWC
--- FRED SAGE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd also like to congratulate Skip Miller for his exceptional landing performance at the SWC The next time you're out practicing landings on a windy day, put a 14 circle out as your target and see... Which again brings to mind my favorite RCSE quote, The purpose of the landing score is to determine the winner of the contest. A word of wisdom from none other than -- Fred Sage. __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] SWC Night Pylon Race
Pilots Same as before. Stock Speed 400 motors , 6 or 7.2 volts, Battery 7 or 8 cells, 500 or 600 ma. Foam only for safety. For more info. contact Merrill or Ron at the addresses's below. Signups at the MM Glidertech booth. Cylumes will also be available there . Thank You, Merrill , Margaret, and Ron, P.s. Ask Margaret for best price on the Wedgie if you mention this pathetic post.!!! - Forwarded message -- From: Merrill Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ronald L Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 25 Jan 02 17:02:34 -0800 Subject: Night Pylon Race Subject: Night Pylon Race Sent:1/25/02 5:01 PM To: Ronald L Adams, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ron can you post for about the night Pylon race. And add pilots should bring some kind of head safety gear( bike helmet). Merrill RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] SWC Chili Potluck
Hey all you SWC campers-- Since the evenings at Phoenix are so quiet and boring (yeah, right!), how about all of the folks camping at the SouthWest Classic this year get together and put on a Chili Potluck on Friday evening. This would be a perfect way to showcase your culinary skills, add the essence of the southwest and get to meet everyone that we keep hearing from and about. Whaddaya think? If there is enough interest I will see if I can get Dave to add a note about it on the RCAZ web site. Dan RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] SWC 2nd place with 2M Sisu
Not too bad Jerry! 2nd place over all w /a two meter plane. And you said earlier "the not so good" have lucky days- I think not! -Original Message- From: Jerry Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, February 05, 2001 7:49 PM Subject: [RCSE] SWC 2nd place with 2M Sisu Broke my Open class Preying Mantis the day before the contest, so backup was my 2M Sisu. It still flys great. Sal still sells them. Jerry RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Shop online without a credit card http://www.rocketcash.com RocketCash, a NetZero subsidiary RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] SWC 2nd place with 2M Sisu
Broke my Open class Preying Mantis the day before the contest, so backup was my 2M Sisu. It still flys great. Sal still sells them. Jerry RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] SWC 2001
Anybody looking for a ride to the South West Classic at Phoenix? I have room for one passenger to keep me company while rolling down the interstate. I'll have lots of room to carry your stuff either in the bed of my truck or in my fifth wheel trailer. This offer is for a ride only since the trailer is being shared by someone arriving later. I'll be departing early Friday morning and returning late Sunday evening. Oh yeah, I'll be departing from Rancho Cucamonga, CA. Sharing fuel costs would be a plus. Dan "It's hard to be a turkey when you soar with the eagles." RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] SWC 2001
Anyone get a packet or letter back for SWC 2001? I registered when it was first announced, and I see my name on the web page with my Freq... But I didn't get anything in the mail yet. Luckily I have my hotel reservations already made because I know some guys that have gone before. But I don't have any other materials or info yet if there was supposed to be some. Jim Downers Grove, IL Member of Chicago SOAR club ICQ 6997780R/C Soaring Page at http://www.mcs.net/~bacuslab/soaring.html RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RCSE] SWC 2001
If you provided CASL with an e-mail address on your entry form, then your confirmation was sent to that address. The rest were mailed by snail mail. I will be posting the flight order later tonight on the web. Dave Wenzlick Mesa AZ "James V. Bacus" wrote: Anyone get a packet or letter back for SWC 2001? I registered when it was first announced, and I see my name on the web page with my Freq... But I didn't get anything in the mail yet. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] SWC Pictures by Skip
Skip may be a self-described beginner, but his pictures are really the way to show a contest. Volume. Volume is the answer! Plus low res JPEG for fast loading. Congratulations. Richard Shilling RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RCSE] SWC 2000 Pictures by Skip
Well I had to do it! I finally broke down and learned html 101 so I could put up my pictures of the SWC 2000 event on my web page. I've used up all 5 Mb that @home gives me, and I've got at least as many MORE pictures to add. For now, check out the following link and tell me what you think - be gentle, it's my first attempt... http://members.home.net/skip.richards/ NOW that you've seen it, send me some names... If you recognize anyone in the pictures that need names, send me a quick eMail (using the link at the top of the page) with the picture label and the name(s). Also, if I've missed labeled anyone (like possibly Daryl Perkins) please let me know... Skip "still-a-rookie-at-HTML" Richards Phoenix, AZ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
