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Frank King wrote: > Dear Tony, > > I can see you are tempted.. > > I'll duly propose you as Secretary; all we need > is a seconder and the job's yours! There will > probably be a bit of a quibble about the cost > of the staff of office but I am sure that > BSS members will see the merits of the idea. > Hi Frank, My only concern is that I would then have to plan my retirement for a FOURTH time! ;-) 1. H.E. Lecturer 20 yrs. 2. M.D. 'Lindisfarne Aviation Ltd.' 5 yrs. 3. Proprietor 'Lindisfarne Sundials' 15yrs and now this proposal. A job too far methinks! It's a shame though: now where did I leave my slippers? Zz! T. --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
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Dear Tony, I can see you are tempted... > Perhaps the 'staff of office' for the BSSCSS > Secretary should be a bespoke gun by Messrs. > Holland & Holland... I'll duly propose you as Secretary; all we need is a seconder and the job's yours! There will probably be a bit of a quibble about the cost of the staff of office but I am sure that BSS members will see the merits of the idea. At a minimum of £45k these things do seem a trifle pricey but then some of the sundials I have been involved with have worked out a good deal more than that :-) I had a look at: < http://www.hollandandholland.com/ > and some of the engraving is indeed truly exquisite. I am glad that there are still people who can do this and even gladder that there are people who will pay for it. Maybe some H&H customers would like a nice sundial, perhaps on the south wall of the east wing? Frank --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
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Hi Tony, This gets ever more curious! "..alleged to have performed acupuncture on a park bench" I didn't know that park benches even felt pain! I shall henceforth be much more gentle when I plonk myself down after a long walk. No doubt there will soon be a pressure group campaigning for 'bench rights', and retirement homes for geriatric examples.. Regards Peter Tandy -Original Message- From: sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de] On Behalf Of Tony Moss Sent: 09 December 2009 10:34 Cc: Sundial List Subject: Re: Troublesome things these sundials! Thaddeus Weakley wrote: ** Having *raised this hare* I felt compelled to find out more about the sundial of which a Google search has increased the information slightly as follows: > "Stephen Sterling, who has practices in Sunderland and Seaham, is > alleged to have performed acupuncture on a park bench and warned a > customer to "stop being a wuss" when he complained about pain caused > by the needles in his neck. > > He is also said to have fired an air pistol at a *clay* sundial and > urged the patient to do the same." Was it just soft clay or fired earthenware one wonders? It's all a bit surreal! It must be noted that park bench therapy including demolition and ballistics is not the norm in the UK. Tony Moss *** > When you do your shooting, please be sure to remember to drop a couple > thousand extra dollars of tax money to your local municipality for > their replacement. Your prompt payment for the destruction of public > property may avoid you any charges and the ire of your tax-paying > neighbours > > --- On *Tue, 12/8/09, Carl & Barbara Sabanski //* > wrote: > > > From: Carl & Barbara Sabanski > Subject: RE: Troublesome things these sundials! > To: "'Sundial'" > Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 7:21 PM > > I don't know why you all keep harpin about these shot up signs. > Every fall at huntin season my buddy and I use em to site our > rifles. So..what's the problem with this? There nice an > symetrical so you see how acurate the gun is. We like them hydro > pole insilators even better. We shoot at those for beers. So > don't complane about it unless you have tried it. > > -Original Message- > *From:* sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de > [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de]*on Behalf Of *Thaddeus > Weakley > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 08, 2009 4:40 PM > *To:* Sundial; Frank Evans > *Subject:* Re: Troublesome things these sundials! > > Sounds like a lot of small-town middle America to me (when > they don't just steal the sign to sell for scrap instead). > Even if you can't read them, I suppose they're the next step > for marksmanship when moving from the broad side of a barn to > live targets > > --- On *Tue, 12/8/09, Frank Evans > //* wrote: > > > From: Frank Evans > Subject: Re: Troublesome things these sundials! > To: "Sundial" > Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 1:16 PM > > In this country ordinary road signs are often adorned with > graffiti. In > South Africa, not graffiti but bullet holes. > Frank 55N 1W > > --- > https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial > > > > -Inline Attachment Follows- > > --- > https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial > > > > > --- > https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial > > --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
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Frank King wrote: > Dear Tony, > > You may have stumbled on a new sport... > > >> He is also said to have fired an air pistol >> at a *clay* sundial and urged the patient to >> do the same." >> > > I am familiar with Clay Pigeon Shooting and I > can well imagine that when the novelty of doing > that wears off and you want something a little > more adventurous you can turn your hand to Clay > Sundial Shooting. > > I can see you will end up being the secretary > of the BSS Clay Sundial Shooting Sub-Group :-) > > I wonder whether there is a "season" for this? > > I suspect that clay sundials breed in the summer > so now may be a good time of year for shooting > young ones? > > This could be the start of something big? > Hi Frank, What a wonderful idea! Perhaps the 'staff of office' for the BSSCSS Secretary should be a bespoke gun by Messrs. Holland & Holland (gunmakers to the Royal Family)provided by the Society of course. The barrels & action alone begin at £45,000 after which wood for the stock is selected from a magnificent 'library' and then there is the finest hand engraving imaginable. Following a memorable gun-fitting session at H&H recently I have my personal 'gun-fit prescription' ready and waiting. ;-) Tony M. P.S. The H&H 'prescription', achieved with a fully adjustable 'try-gun', will simply allow me to modify my own modest Berretas to fit exactly. See < http://www.hollandandholland.com/ > --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
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Dear Tony, You may have stumbled on a new sport... > He is also said to have fired an air pistol > at a *clay* sundial and urged the patient to > do the same." I am familiar with Clay Pigeon Shooting and I can well imagine that when the novelty of doing that wears off and you want something a little more adventurous you can turn your hand to Clay Sundial Shooting. I can see you will end up being the secretary of the BSS Clay Sundial Shooting Sub-Group :-) I wonder whether there is a "season" for this? I suspect that clay sundials breed in the summer so now may be a good time of year for shooting young ones? This could be the start of something big? All the best Frank --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
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Thaddeus Weakley wrote: ** Having *raised this hare* I felt compelled to find out more about the sundial of which a Google search has increased the information slightly as follows: > "Stephen Sterling, who has practices in Sunderland and Seaham, is > alleged to have performed acupuncture on a park bench and warned a > customer to "stop being a wuss" when he complained about pain caused > by the needles in his neck. > > He is also said to have fired an air pistol at a *clay* sundial and > urged the patient to do the same." Was it just soft clay or fired earthenware one wonders? It's all a bit surreal! It must be noted that park bench therapy including demolition and ballistics is not the norm in the UK. Tony Moss *** > When you do your shooting, please be sure to remember to drop a couple > thousand extra dollars of tax money to your local municipality for > their replacement. Your prompt payment for the destruction of public > property may avoid you any charges and the ire of your tax-paying > neighbours > > --- On *Tue, 12/8/09, Carl & Barbara Sabanski //* > wrote: > > > From: Carl & Barbara Sabanski > Subject: RE: Troublesome things these sundials! > To: "'Sundial'" > Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 7:21 PM > > I don't know why you all keep harpin about these shot up signs. > Every fall at huntin season my buddy and I use em to site our > rifles. So..what's the problem with this? There nice an > symetrical so you see how acurate the gun is. We like them hydro > pole insilators even better. We shoot at those for beers. So > don't complane about it unless you have tried it. > > -Original Message- > *From:* sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de > [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de]*on Behalf Of *Thaddeus > Weakley > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 08, 2009 4:40 PM > *To:* Sundial; Frank Evans > *Subject:* Re: Troublesome things these sundials! > > Sounds like a lot of small-town middle America to me (when > they don't just steal the sign to sell for scrap instead). > Even if you can't read them, I suppose they're the next step > for marksmanship when moving from the broad side of a barn to > live targets > > --- On *Tue, 12/8/09, Frank Evans > //* wrote: > > > From: Frank Evans > Subject: Re: Troublesome things these sundials! > To: "Sundial" > Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 1:16 PM > > In this country ordinary road signs are often adorned with > graffiti. In > South Africa, not graffiti but bullet holes. > Frank 55N 1W > > --- > https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial > > > > -Inline Attachment Follows- > > --- > https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial > > > > > --- > https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial > > --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
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When you do your shooting, please be sure to remember to drop a couple thousand extra dollars of tax money to your local municipality for their replacement. Your prompt payment for the destruction of public property may avoid you any charges and the ire of your tax-paying neighbours --- On Tue, 12/8/09, Carl & Barbara Sabanski wrote: From: Carl & Barbara Sabanski Subject: RE: Troublesome things these sundials! To: "'Sundial'" Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 7:21 PM I don't know why you all keep harpin about these shot up signs. Every fall at huntin season my buddy and I use em to site our rifles. So..what's the problem with this? There nice an symetrical so you see how acurate the gun is. We like them hydro pole insilators even better. We shoot at those for beers. So don't complane about it unless you have tried it. -Original Message- From: sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de]on Behalf Of Thaddeus Weakley Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 4:40 PM To: Sundial; Frank Evans Subject: Re: Troublesome things these sundials! Sounds like a lot of small-town middle America to me (when they don't just steal the sign to sell for scrap instead). Even if you can't read them, I suppose they're the next step for marksmanship when moving from the broad side of a barn to live targets --- On Tue, 12/8/09, Frank Evans wrote: From: Frank Evans Subject: Re: Troublesome things these sundials! To: "Sundial" Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 1:16 PM In this country ordinary road signs are often adorned with graffiti. In South Africa, not graffiti but bullet holes. Frank 55N 1W --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial -Inline Attachment Follows- --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
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I don't know why you all keep harpin about these shot up signs. Every fall at huntin season my buddy and I use em to site our rifles. So..what's the problem with this? There nice an symetrical so you see how acurate the gun is. We like them hydro pole insilators even better. We shoot at those for beers. So don't complane about it unless you have tried it. -Original Message- From: sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de]on Behalf Of Thaddeus Weakley Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 4:40 PM To: Sundial; Frank Evans Subject: Re: Troublesome things these sundials! Sounds like a lot of small-town middle America to me (when they don't just steal the sign to sell for scrap instead). Even if you can't read them, I suppose they're the next step for marksmanship when moving from the broad side of a barn to live targets --- On Tue, 12/8/09, Frank Evans wrote: From: Frank Evans Subject: Re: Troublesome things these sundials! To: "Sundial" Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 1:16 PM In this country ordinary road signs are often adorned with graffiti. In South Africa, not graffiti but bullet holes. Frank 55N 1W --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
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Sounds like a lot of small-town middle America to me (when they don't just steal the sign to sell for scrap instead). Even if you can't read them, I suppose they're the next step for marksmanship when moving from the broad side of a barn to live targets --- On Tue, 12/8/09, Frank Evans wrote: From: Frank Evans Subject: Re: Troublesome things these sundials! To: "Sundial" Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 1:16 PM In this country ordinary road signs are often adorned with graffiti. In South Africa, not graffiti but bullet holes. Frank 55N 1W --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
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In this country ordinary road signs are often adorned with graffiti. In South Africa, not graffiti but bullet holes. Frank 55N 1W --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
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Hi, 2009/12/7 Peter Tandy > Tony, > > Most Curious! > > Why would a (presumably sane) physiotherapist suggest firing at a *sundial > *? Was it a test to see if the 'gunman' could even find one! (How many are > there in the Sunderland area?). Surely there are easier targets to find > than that? Do we know if he succeeded and what damage was done? > I assume the physiotherapist just tried to protect us sundial owners. Better to shoot a sundial than a human beeing. Regards Aimo Niemi > I assume the suggestion of demolishing a wall wasn't by perforating it > using the same pistol until it collapsed,. > > > > I note he accepts he ‘stepped over the mark’ Wouldn’t it be more true to > say he shot himself in the foot > > > > Regards > > Peter Tandy > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de] > On Behalf Of Tony Moss > Sent: 05 December 2009 15:00 > To: Sundial Mailing List > Subject: Troublesome things these sundials! > > > > This caught my attention amongst regular news items. > > > > Tony Moss. > > > > ** > > > > BBC CEEFAX North East & Cumbria News Saturday 5th December. > > > > A physiotherapist has been given a 12 month caution for encouraging a > > patient to fire an air pistol at a sundial. > > > > The Health Professional Council panel also heard that Stephen Sterling, > > of Sunderland, told the serious head injury patient to demolish a wall. > > > > Panel members said allowing a person who had suffered neurological > > damage in a road accident to fire a pistol amounted to misconduct > > > > Mr. Sterling admitted he now realized he had "stepped over the mark". > > --- > > https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial > > > > --- > https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial > > > --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
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Maybe it was canon sundial, and they thought it was the enemy's secret weapon! From: sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de] On Behalf Of Peter Tandy Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 3:52 AM To: Tony Moss; Sundial Mailing List Subject: RE: Troublesome things these sundials! Tony, Most Curious! Why would a (presumably sane) physiotherapist suggest firing at a sundial? Was it a test to see if the 'gunman' could even find one! (How many are there in the Sunderland area?). Surely there are easier targets to find than that? Do we know if he succeeded and what damage was done? I assume the suggestion of demolishing a wall wasn't by perforating it using the same pistol until it collapsed,. I note he accepts he 'stepped over the mark' Wouldn't it be more true to say he shot himself in the foot Regards Peter Tandy -Original Message- From: sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de] On Behalf Of Tony Moss Sent: 05 December 2009 15:00 To: Sundial Mailing List Subject: Troublesome things these sundials! This caught my attention amongst regular news items. Tony Moss. ** BBC CEEFAX North East & Cumbria News Saturday 5th December. A physiotherapist has been given a 12 month caution for encouraging a patient to fire an air pistol at a sundial. The Health Professional Council panel also heard that Stephen Sterling, of Sunderland, told the serious head injury patient to demolish a wall. Panel members said allowing a person who had suffered neurological damage in a road accident to fire a pistol amounted to misconduct Mr. Sterling admitted he now realized he had "stepped over the mark". --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
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>The poor image attached might just > be small enough to get transmitted but it certainly shows the extensive > damage. Wow, looks like most STOP signs in the southern US, peppered with bullet holes... Some kinds of stupidity are universal, I guess. Dave --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
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Peter Tandy probably echoes the astonishment of all of us that any sane person would suggest shooting at a sundial but there is at least one other example that I know of. The otherwise excellent dial at Minster Abbey (on the Isle Sheppey in Kent, UK) is one. The poor image attached might just be small enough to get transmitted but it certainly shows the extensive damage. It must somehow be appealing in some way. I can only think that it must be the sound of the hit that attracts these yobs. Hmmm, maybe it is the fact that the said physiotherapist has himself engaged in this practice that makes him suggest it to others Patrick >Why would a (presumably sane) physiotherapist suggest firing at a sundial? Was >it a test to see if the 'gunman' could even find one! (How many are there in >the Sunderland area?). Surely there are easier targets to find than that? Do >we know if he succeeded and what damage was done?< Don't let your email address define you - Define yourself at http://www.tunome.com today! <>--- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
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Tony, Most Curious! Why would a (presumably sane) physiotherapist suggest firing at a sundial? Was it a test to see if the 'gunman' could even find one! (How many are there in the Sunderland area?). Surely there are easier targets to find than that? Do we know if he succeeded and what damage was done? I assume the suggestion of demolishing a wall wasn't by perforating it using the same pistol until it collapsed,. I note he accepts he 'stepped over the mark' Wouldn't it be more true to say he shot himself in the foot Regards Peter Tandy -Original Message- From: sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de] On Behalf Of Tony Moss Sent: 05 December 2009 15:00 To: Sundial Mailing List Subject: Troublesome things these sundials! This caught my attention amongst regular news items. Tony Moss. ** BBC CEEFAX North East & Cumbria News Saturday 5th December. A physiotherapist has been given a 12 month caution for encouraging a patient to fire an air pistol at a sundial. The Health Professional Council panel also heard that Stephen Sterling, of Sunderland, told the serious head injury patient to demolish a wall. Panel members said allowing a person who had suffered neurological damage in a road accident to fire a pistol amounted to misconduct Mr. Sterling admitted he now realized he had "stepped over the mark". --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
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Thad beat me to it! :-) A great book for getting a young person into dialling. Regards, Robert - Original Message - From: "Thaddeus Weakley" To: "Sundial Mailing List" ; "Len Berggren" Subject: Re: Troublesome things these sundials! Albert Waugh's Sundials: Their Theory and Construction is the book I started with when about that age and I think it is very good, especially if the lad is already science-oriented. I believe it was first published in 1973, Dover Publications, Inc. I don't know how recenly it has been published, but it is readily available online. http://www.amazon.com/Sundials-Theory-Construction-Albert-Waugh/dp/0486229475#noop Good Luck! Thad Weakley Montreal, Quebec --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
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Albert Waugh's Sundials: Their Theory and Construction is the book I started with when about that age and I think it is very good, especially if the lad is already science-oriented. I believe it was first published in 1973, Dover Publications, Inc. I don't know how recenly it has been published, but it is readily available online. http://www.amazon.com/Sundials-Theory-Construction-Albert-Waugh/dp/0486229475#noop Good Luck! Thad Weakley Montreal, Quebec --- On Sun, 12/6/09, Len Berggren wrote: From: Len Berggren Subject: Re: Troublesome things these sundials! To: "Sundial Mailing List" Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 11:52 AM Dear Fellow-Dialists, Can anyone suggest a book on constructing dials that would be appropriate for a boy around 11 years old (say 11 - early teens)? It should be commercially available, so info on the publisher would also be appreciated. Thanks, in advance, Len -- J. L. Berggren Professor Emeritus Department of Mathematics Simon Fraser University University Dr. Burnaby, B.C. V5A 1S6 phone: 604-936-2268 fax: 604-936-2168 -Inline Attachment Follows- --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
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May I suggest MICRO SHADOWS on my website, it is free. If theory is wanted, SIMPLE SHADOWS, on my web site, also free. And if paper cut outs are wanted, CUTTING SHADOWS, also free on my web site. Simon www.illustratingshadows.com --- On Sun, 12/6/09, Len Berggren wrote: > From: Len Berggren > Subject: Re: Troublesome things these sundials! > To: "Sundial Mailing List" > Date: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 9:52 AM > Dear Fellow-Dialists,Can anyone suggest > a book on constructing dials that would be appropriate for a > boy around 11 years old (say 11 - early teens)? It should be > commercially available, so info on the publisher would also > be appreciated. > Thanks, in advance,Len > -- > J. L. Berggren > Professor Emeritus > Department of Mathematics > Simon Fraser University > University Dr. > Burnaby, B.C. V5A 1S6 > phone: 604-936-2268 > fax: 604-936-2168 > > > > > -Inline Attachment Follows- > > --- > https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial > > --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
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Dear Len, Two books come to mind: 1. 'Make a Sundial' by Jane Walker, published by the British Sundial Society, ISBN 0 951 8404 5 2, costing about £6 and available from the BSS Sales desk elsp...@ehill80.fsnet.co.uk. Many suggestions for models, with understanding starting from scratch. 2. 'Sundials and Timedials' by Jenkins and Bear, Tarquin Publications, and available through Amazon Books. Cut-out models of many types of sundial. Hope this helps. David Brown Somerton, Somerset, UK Len Berggren > Dear Fellow-Dialists, > Can anyone suggest a book on constructing dials that would be appropriate > for a boy around 11 years old (say 11 - early teens)? It should be > commercially available, so info on the publisher would also be > appreciated. > Thanks, in advance, > Len > -- > J. L. Berggren > Professor Emeritus > Department of Mathematics > Simon Fraser University > University Dr. > Burnaby, B.C. V5A 1S6 > phone: 604-936-2268 > fax: 604-936-2168 > --- > https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial > > --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
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Dear Fellow-Dialists, Can anyone suggest a book on constructing dials that would be appropriate for a boy around 11 years old (say 11 - early teens)? It should be commercially available, so info on the publisher would also be appreciated. Thanks, in advance, Len -- J. L. Berggren Professor Emeritus Department of Mathematics Simon Fraser University University Dr. Burnaby, B.C. V5A 1S6 phone: 604-936-2268 fax: 604-936-2168 --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
