Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.3 Security Update
Robert Kaiser wrote: Ray_Net wrote: What should i do now ? Re-enable french language pack 2.0.2 or: - uninstall french language pack 2.0.2 - install french language pack 2.0.3 from the page http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#langpacks You don't need to uninstall, just install the new one. the second step bring me a little line saying: Seamonkey prevented this site(www.seamonkey-project.org) from asking you to install software on your computer. Could i click on the Install sotware button ? Yes. Thanks for the rapid answer .. but why did you say: You don't need to uninstall, just install the new one. I consider that i will never use the old language pack (2.0.2) due to the use of the language pas (2.0.3). In addition, the SM 2.0.3 upgrade said: the french language pack 2.0.2 is not compatible and should be disabled. Therefore, because it's of no use, il must/could be uninstalled. Am i wrong ? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM1 and SM2 config/profile locations with Windows Vista
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: First of all, Vista and Windows 7 are the same. ... What??? They may share some common features for a particular purpose, but they are most certainly NOT the same! Of course not. But they are the same with regard to the names of the application data folders, which is what we are talking about here. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM1 and SM2 config/profile locations with Windows Vista
Ray_Net wrote: Ok, thanks for fine tuning my infos : i have seen on my pc with XP: Application Data\ and Local Settings\Application Data\ containing datas from SM1 and SM2 and i did not log in a domain... But the question was: Where are located SM2 datas on a Windows Vista machine. Is it somebody that can answer this ? As I thought I had explained several times, they are located in the same place as on XP, except for the change of name of the application data folders. The whole premise of your original question was that you knew the situation in XP. Make the translation in my previous posts, and you know it in Vista and Windows 7 also. -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Server problems?
I may or may not be in the right place to ask this question because I don't think it's a browser problem, but hopefully someone may be able give me an answer or steer me to a place where I can get an answer. About a month ago I started having problems with SeaMonkey 1.1.18 hanging when going from website to website. When I click a link sometimes it will go to the new site right away, sometimes the page will start to load then just set there. If I click on the stop button then click the link again it will usually load right away or if I right click the page then click reload that works too. I am having the same problem on three different computers trying three different browsers so I think maybe Charter is having problems because a friend across town is having the same problem. I have called Charter and they deny having any problems. My problem is I don't know enough about servers in general to give them any argument, but I'm almost sure the problem is on their end. I was thinking maybe something like overloaded servers. I don't think it could be a problem with Seamonkey, but I could be wrong. Thanks for any help ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM1 and SM2 config/profile locations with Windows Vista
Leonidas Jones wrote: No there is a similar structure there, but it contains only the cache, xul.mfl, and xpc.mfl. The nits and bolts of the profile are in the Roaming subdirectory. So, when you move your profile to a non-standard location (as I do), are you just moving the Roaming part of the profile (and actually preventing it from roaming), leaving the Local part in the original location? Or does SeaMonkey know to put all of the profile (both Roaming and Local parts) in the new location (when it sees that the profile is not in the standard Roaming location)? -- David Wilkinson ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
newest version
Has the newest version of SeaMonkey dealt with the problem of some websites not being compatible with 1.1.18, the version I am running now? Bing Maps is a good example, I get a message asking me if I'm sure I want to use my browser on their site, and when I go ahead the page doesn't come up the same as it does with Firefox. If I stick with SeaMonkey I know I'll have to update sooner or later, but I don't want to do it until it's of some benefit to me. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Vista and Windows 7 are the same
Hmm... First of all, Vista and Windows 7 are the same. ... What??? They may share some common features for a particular purpose, but they are most certainly NOT the same! end of snippet Well, yes and no. Strictly speaking, Windows 7 is a partial re-write -- a rather small one -- of the near disaster that Vista became. There are somewhat major changes in Win 7 as far as how XP level calls and applications are run, hence the need to have XP Mode, etc. However, there's a yes in there, as other than the above and a few terribly minuscule other codes, Win 7 and Vista are remarkably the same. Another way to put it, did people really think that MS could bring out a totally new and improved OS such as Win 7 a mere relatively few months after bringing out the all new Vista... ?? Not hardly. Some say that Win 7 is Vista with a new face on it...well, that rings more true than not, but there are also some material changes in there, mostly to solve the problems and dead-ends that plagued Vista users and those coming over from XP. Joe - Original Message --- Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 17:30:54 -0500 Message-ID: wfodnfco-cw_8-hwnz2dnuvz_jvi4...@mozilla.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Subject: Re: SM1 and SM2 config/profile locations with Windows Vista Message: 4 David Wilkinson wrote: Ray_Net wrote: I expected SM1 and SM2 config/profile locations with Windows Vista not the two places of a mozilla directory in Windows7. In other words,and in short, after remove SM1 and install SM2 in a Vista machine Where is the directory(ies)(profile stuff) of the old SM1 that i can delete ? superb if i have the directories(profile stuff) of SM1 and SM2 explained. Ray: First of all, Vista and Windows 7 are the same. ... What??? They may share some common features for a particular purpose, but they are most certainly NOT the same! --===1327943419==-- ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Can Thunderbird share Seamonkey's mail files?
Greetings; Currently each Thunderbird installed my G3 iBook's Tiger and Panther partitions share the same mail folder (installed the Panther partition) which greatly saves disk space and is never out of mail sync and it works just great. My question is I'd like to install SeaMonkey on the Tiger partition (since SM doesn't seem exist for Panther), but will the way SM re-formats mail files render them unreadable to Thunderbird in Panther? Thanks for any tips. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
safe-mode
What is -safe-mode and why do I find it is sometimes the only way to start up SeaMonkey? (apologies if this has come up before) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: safe-mode
On 18.02.2010 07:34, Rick Merrill wrote: --- Original Message --- What is -safe-mode and why do I find it is sometimes the only way to start up SeaMonkey? (apologies if this has come up before) safe-mode function is basically the same as any other safe-mode like in Windows for example. Safe-mode defaults to the main theme, extensions/plugins do not load, etc. If you need to boot SM via safe-mode then you have either a theme or errant extension, more than likely an extension. Disable all extensions, then start SM as usual. Then re-enable one extension at a time until the culprit is found. -- Jay Garcia - Netscape/Flock Champion www.ufaq.org Netscape - Flock - Firefox - Thunderbird - Seamonkey Support ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: newest version
DonWB wrote: Has the newest version of SeaMonkey dealt with the problem of some websites not being compatible with 1.1.18, the version I am running now? Bing Maps is a good example, I get a message asking me if I'm sure I want to use my browser on their site, and when I go ahead the page doesn't come up the same as it does with Firefox. I don't know Bing appears in Firefox; but I have been getting the same message in Seamonkey 1.1.18, ignoring it, and Bing Maps has always worked fine. But today it is not, so Bing may have changed something ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: safe-mode
Jay Garcia wrote: On 18.02.2010 07:34, Rick Merrill wrote: --- Original Message --- What is -safe-mode and why do I find it is sometimes the only way to start up SeaMonkey? (apologies if this has come up before) safe-mode function is basically the same as any other safe-mode like in Windows for example. Safe-mode defaults to the main theme, extensions/plugins do not load, etc. If you need to boot SM via safe-mode then you have either a theme or errant extension, more than likely an extension. Disable all extensions, then start SM as usual. Then re-enable one extension at a time until the culprit is found. Thanks Jay, but since upgrading from SM1 to SM2 I have never (consciously) installed an extension or anything else. Would things like 'quicktime' have been carried forward? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: safe-mode
On 18.02.2010 08:01, Rick Merrill wrote: --- Original Message --- Jay Garcia wrote: On 18.02.2010 07:34, Rick Merrill wrote: --- Original Message --- What is -safe-mode and why do I find it is sometimes the only way to start up SeaMonkey? (apologies if this has come up before) safe-mode function is basically the same as any other safe-mode like in Windows for example. Safe-mode defaults to the main theme, extensions/plugins do not load, etc. If you need to boot SM via safe-mode then you have either a theme or errant extension, more than likely an extension. Disable all extensions, then start SM as usual. Then re-enable one extension at a time until the culprit is found. Thanks Jay, but since upgrading from SM1 to SM2 I have never (consciously) installed an extension or anything else. Would things like 'quicktime' have been carried forward? No idea but if it takes booting to safe-mode in order to start SM then you may have to take a look at themes, extensions AND plugins. Try creating a new profile to see if that boots every time without incident. -- Jay Garcia - Netscape/Flock Champion www.ufaq.org Netscape - Flock - Firefox - Thunderbird - Seamonkey Support ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.3 Security Update
Ray_Net wrote: Thanks for the rapid answer .. but why did you say: You don't need to uninstall, just install the new one. I consider that i will never use the old language pack (2.0.2) due to the use of the language pas (2.0.3). In addition, the SM 2.0.3 upgrade said: the french language pack 2.0.2 is not compatible and should be disabled. Therefore, because it's of no use, il must/could be uninstalled. Am i wrong ? The 2.0.3 version will just overwrite the older one, just like every time when you upgrade an add-on (and it does it in a safe way, AFAIK). Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can Thunderbird share Seamonkey's mail files?
James Greenidge wrote: Greetings; Currently each Thunderbird installed my G3 iBook's Tiger and Panther partitions share the same mail folder (installed the Panther partition) which greatly saves disk space and is never out of mail sync and it works just great. My question is I'd like to install SeaMonkey on the Tiger partition (since SM doesn't seem exist for Panther), but will the way SM re-formats mail files render them unreadable to Thunderbird in Panther? Thanks for any tips. SeaMonkey 1.1.18 does run quite well on Panther. Tiger can run 2.0.x, the current version. I am assuming that you resing TB 2.0.0.23, since the newer version does not run on Panther either. I also assume that you want to keep TB installed, and have both applications look at the same mail data. The following describes how to do that. Install SeaMonkey, then set up your accounts. Its handy to do so in the exact order that they appear in TB, though that is not necessary. Then go to editMail Newsgroup Account Settings. For each account, look in Server Settings for the Local Directory field. Browse to the location of your mail files for that account in TB. When done, OK out of the Account Settings Dialog, then close SeaMonkey. Reopen SM, and, if all has gone well, you should see all your mail data. The above can also be done with rss and news accounts, though it is trickier. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
What happened to the website?
I finished downloading 2.03, then went to seamonkey-project.org - and I see the test page of Apache server!! - Ordinary decent people in this country are sick and tired of being told that ordinary decent people in this country are fed up with being sick and tired. I am certainly not, and I'm sick and tired of being told that I am. -- Monty Python - ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.3 Security Update
Robert Kaiser wrote: As part of Mozilla's ongoing stability and security update process, SeaMonkey 2.0.3 is now available for Windows, Mac, and Linux as a free download from www.seamonkey-project.org. We strongly recommend that all SeaMonkey and old suite users upgrade to this latest release. If you already have SeaMonkey 2.0, you will receive an automated update notification within 24 to 48 hours. This update can also be applied manually by selecting Check for Updates... from the Help menu. For a list of changes and more information, please review the SeaMonkey 2.0.3 Release Notes. Note: All SeaMonkey 1.x and old Mozilla or Netscape suite users are encouraged to upgrade to SeaMonkey 2.0.x by downloading it from www.seamonkey-project.org. Full news article: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/news#2010-02-17 Downloads for all available platforms and languages: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ Release notes: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.0.3 System Requirements: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/2.0/system-requirements Robert Kaiser SeaMonkey project coordinator I just started up seamonkey and got a warning (I didn't notice whether it was from Vista or my virus protector) that someone, who they couldn't identify, was trying to install a program. They gave the name of the program as, I think, installer.exe, and suggested I not allow it to install unless I knew the source. So I crossed my fingers, sacrificed a chicken, and let it install. It was the seamonkey update. My suggestion would be to change the generic name of the program to something like Seamonkeyinstaller.exe, so I would know it was safe to install. The media is full of stories of people attacking our pcs, and anything that would lessen our worries would be most welcome. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: newest version
Bill Spikowski wrote: JeffM wrote: The funny part here is that you actually expect Micros~1 to know what they are doing. I'm curious to know what is is about Bung[sic] that makes it valuable to you (besides M$-slanted results). I use Bing for only one purpose -- their incredible aerial oblique maps -- nothing else like it anywhere on the internet! Have you ever tried all options on Google Maps? The Satelite and Terrain (if that is the word in English)! I take Google any time over that *terrible* map from Bing. BTW, Bing Map came up on my SM 2.0, at least they give you an option to enter with what ever browser you have, when they don't know what you have. There is worse examples of sites that do browser sniffing. -- /Arne ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: newest version
Arne wrote: Bing Map[...] There is worse examples of sites that do browser sniffing. There is *no* need to sniff for *standards-compliant* browsers; JUST CREATE STANDARDS-COMPLIANT PAGES. (Of couse, this would break M$'s foul business model.) The ONLY need to sniff is for NON-compliant browsers. (Guess who builds those.) http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Acid3 The only need to serve up special pages is because junky browsers won't render compliant pages right. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What happened to the website?
Rex wrote: I finished downloading 2.03, then went to seamonkey-project.org - and I see the test page of Apache server!! Temporary problem, it's already solved: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=546997 Robert Kaiser ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: newest version
JeffM wrote: Arne wrote: Bing Map[...] There is worse examples of sites that do browser sniffing. There is *no* need to sniff for *standards-compliant* browsers; JUST CREATE STANDARDS-COMPLIANT PAGES. Agree, was my post in any way defending any browser sniffing? All I said, was that there is those sites who sniff but at least they give the user an option to enter any way, other simply throw you out! -- /Arne ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
WMV files--can get to sound but not video--why?
I frequently receive messages that include .wmv file types. A sub window will open when I click on the .wmv file. It indicates that it will be opened with Windows Media Player\wmplayer. I click OK and I am taken to a very small window where only the audio is played. What do I have to do to cause Windows Media Player to play both the video and the audio? SeaMonkey 1.1.18 Windows XP SP3 Thanks for any help sent my way. Frog ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: newest version
Arne wrote: Bing Map[...] There is worse examples of sites that do browser sniffing. JeffM wrote: There is *no* need to sniff for *standards-compliant* browsers; JUST CREATE STANDARDS-COMPLIANT PAGES. Arne wrote: Agree, was my post in any way defending any browser sniffing? You're too easy on developers who don't know WFT they're doing. The *DEFAULT* should be **serve up a compliant page**. Stupid M$ even treats the W3C Validator like it has 3 heads: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.bing.com/maps/ (Look at the Address: bar on that page.) All I said, was that there is those sites who sniff but at least they give the user an option to enter any way, other simply throw you out! So, instead of being rock-head stupid, they're just bonehead stupid. WEBMASTERS, JUST SERVE UP *COMPLIANT* PAGES BY DEFAULT. If you want to sniff, then sniff for the **broken** browsers (y'know, the ones Micros~1 builds) and only treat **those** as special (as in retarted). BTW, you bunch of dim bulbs who can't seem to get it right http://geckoisgecko.org/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: newest version
Arne wrote: Bill Spikowski wrote: JeffM wrote: The funny part here is that you actually expect Micros~1 to know what they are doing. I'm curious to know what is is about Bung[sic] that makes it valuable to you (besides M$-slanted results). I use Bing for only one purpose -- their incredible aerial oblique maps -- nothing else like it anywhere on the internet! Have you ever tried all options on Google Maps? The Satelite and Terrain (if that is the word in English)! I take Google any time over that *terrible* map from Bing. Sure -- I use Google Maps 20 times for every time I use Bing Maps. But when you need 3D aerial oblique maps, well Google just doesn't have them ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: newest version
Arne wrote: JeffM wrote: Arne wrote: Bing Map[...] There is worse examples of sites that do browser sniffing. There is *no* need to sniff for *standards-compliant* browsers; JUST CREATE STANDARDS-COMPLIANT PAGES. Agree, was my post in any way defending any browser sniffing? All I said, was that there is those sites who sniff but at least they give the user an option to enter any way, other simply throw you out! Is it just me, or isn't it incredibly stupid to design three or four or five different versions of your site for three or four or five different browsers because that takes two or three times as much labor? Why would a web design firm allow their people to charge them two or three times as much when they can simply require one compliant design? -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: newest version
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Arne wrote: JeffM wrote: Arne wrote: Bing Map[...] There is worse examples of sites that do browser sniffing. There is *no* need to sniff for *standards-compliant* browsers; JUST CREATE STANDARDS-COMPLIANT PAGES. Agree, was my post in any way defending any browser sniffing? All I said, was that there is those sites who sniff but at least they give the user an option to enter any way, other simply throw you out! Is it just me, or isn't it incredibly stupid to design three or four or five different versions of your site for three or four or five different browsers because that takes two or three times as much labor? Why would a web design firm allow their people to charge them two or three times as much when they can simply require one compliant design? While it is indeed incredibly stupid that design has to be doubled, or tripled, web pages are designed for end users. Designers have to accommodate end users and cannot control what browser a person uses. And the web design firm simply passes on the cost to the page owner. So, this sad fact has an impact on the site owner, not the web design firm. Notwithstanding a best viewed with . . . notice, you really have no choice but to accommodate all browsers IF you want everybody to be able to view your site. In a perfect world, everybody would use FF/SM and multiple design would not be necessary. However, that's not reality. BJ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.0.3 Security Update
Robert Kaiser wrote: The 2.0.3 version will just overwrite the older one, just like every time when you upgrade an add-on (and it does it in a safe way, AFAIK). Thanks ! It works like a charm. BTW may i suggest sometihing on the SeaMonkey web site http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ I would be nice to see per exemple Main Downloads SeaMonkey 2.0.3 * Windows, English ((10,604,307 bytes)) instead of: Main Downloads SeaMonkey 2.0.3 * Windows, English (10 MB) This will permit to check if the download was successfully. (same thing for other downloads) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Email Replies Backwards
When I reply to an email, the text cursor is way down at the bottom of the email. I believe all my contacts that use Microsoft email and have grown accustomed to replies being at the beginning of the email will be confounded by replies at the end of the email. When I jump up to begin the reply it takes on the font of the So and So wrote line, which is Times New Roman and terrible for online viewing. It is a small annoyance, but I would like to start my response at the top of the page instead of starting to write at the bottom and then cutting and pasting it to the top. Any way to make Seamonkey change this behavior? Seamonkey also seems backwards in that by default it lists emails in the box from oldest to newest. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Email Replies Backwards
Kurt wrote: When I reply to an email, the text cursor is way down at the bottom of the email. I believe all my contacts that use Microsoft email and have grown accustomed to replies being at the beginning of the email will be confounded by replies at the end of the email. When I jump up to begin the reply it takes on the font of the So and So wrote line, which is Times New Roman and terrible for online viewing. It is a small annoyance, but I would like to start my response at the top of the page instead of starting to write at the bottom and then cutting and pasting it to the top. Any way to make Seamonkey change this behavior? Select the Account, select - View Setting for this Account, and then select Composition Addressing and change your preff to start my reply before quote. Seamonkey also seems backwards in that by default it lists emails in the box from oldest to newest. You can choose to sort the Message display any way you wish, in ascending or descending order by clicking on the Date column header. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Email Replies Backwards
Kurt wrote: When I reply to an email, the text cursor is way down at the bottom of the email. I believe all my contacts that use Microsoft email and have grown accustomed to replies being at the beginning of the email will be confounded by replies at the end of the email. When I jump up to begin the reply it takes on the font of the So and So wrote line, which is Times New Roman and terrible for online viewing. It is a small annoyance, but I would like to start my response at the top of the page instead of starting to write at the bottom and then cutting and pasting it to the top. Any way to make Seamonkey change this behavior? Seamonkey also seems backwards in that by default it lists emails in the box from oldest to newest. Go to each individual email box in Edit Mail newsgroup setting choose Composition Addressing them click on button start reply at bottom. and choose start reply at top. Note: here in this group you will booed - hissed at, chastised, cursed, and flogged to do , what is known as top posting. It frowned upon here. But if your _contacts_ are use to Top Posting then by all means set as you desire. People know my opinion on Top posting and I want go into it further. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03
Last evening I finally uninstalled 1.1.18, and installed 2.03. My Profiles Bookmarks Email and newsgroup accounts Addresses Saved emails didn't make the trip. 2.0.3's wizard said it had imported everything, but no evidence of that. Asking 2.03 to import the missing items after installation was fruitless since I don't use Eudora, Outlook, etc. The browser itself was functional. 1.1.18 is now back in use. The OS is XP SP3. Yes, I have a nonstandard SM installation. Program files are installed to: E:\Mozilla\SMonkey to keep my boot partition smaller, which makes boot partition image backups easier. 2.0.3 was installed to the same location. 1.1.18's config files have always been in the standard place: C:\Documents and Settings\[myname]\Application Data Has anyone dealt with this before, or can point me to a page where someone has? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM1 and SM2 config/profile locations with Windows Vista
David Wilkinson wrote: Leonidas Jones wrote: No there is a similar structure there, but it contains only the cache, xul.mfl, and xpc.mfl. The nits and bolts of the profile are in the Roaming subdirectory. So, when you move your profile to a non-standard location (as I do), are you just moving the Roaming part of the profile (and actually preventing it from roaming), leaving the Local part in the original location? Or does SeaMonkey know to put all of the profile (both Roaming and Local parts) in the new location (when it sees that the profile is not in the standard Roaming location)? I don't know, I've never tried putting the profile anywhere but the default on Vista. Rather then move profiles, I've moved parts of them, such as the Mail and News folders, to allow multiple applications to access them. I don't knwo what would happen with an entire profile moved out of the default location. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: newest version
BJ wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Arne wrote: JeffM wrote: Arne wrote: Bing Map[...] There is worse examples of sites that do browser sniffing. There is *no* need to sniff for *standards-compliant* browsers; JUST CREATE STANDARDS-COMPLIANT PAGES. Agree, was my post in any way defending any browser sniffing? All I said, was that there is those sites who sniff but at least they give the user an option to enter any way, other simply throw you out! Is it just me, or isn't it incredibly stupid to design three or four or five different versions of your site for three or four or five different browsers because that takes two or three times as much labor? Why would a web design firm allow their people to charge them two or three times as much when they can simply require one compliant design? While it is indeed incredibly stupid that design has to be doubled, or tripled, web pages are designed for end users. Designers have to accommodate end users and cannot control what browser a person uses. And the web design firm simply passes on the cost to the page owner. So, this sad fact has an impact on the site owner, not the web design firm. Notwithstanding a best viewed with . . . notice, you really have no choice but to accommodate all browsers IF you want everybody to be able to view your site. In a perfect world, everybody would use FF/SM and multiple design would not be necessary. However, that's not reality. The original vision of HTML was that the page would be coded to a standard and the various browsers would render it as their programmers and users thought best. But what we have now is a world in which certain browser publishers have enough weight in the marketplace that webmasters intentionally write nonstandard code for them, and that forces other browsers to devise ways of coping with these noncompliant pages. I would be perfectly satisfied with a world in which multiple browsers competed for market share but websites were coded to W3C standards. That would be a level playing field and the best browser(s) would win. And anyway, how is writing a single version of compliant code not accommodating all browsers? Are some browsers unable to display compliant pages? -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Email Replies Backwards
Phillip Jones wrote: Kurt wrote: When I reply to an email, the text cursor is way down at the bottom of the email. I believe all my contacts that use Microsoft email and have grown accustomed to replies being at the beginning of the email will be confounded by replies at the end of the email. When I jump up to begin the reply it takes on the font of the So and So wrote line, which is Times New Roman and terrible for online viewing. It is a small annoyance, but I would like to start my response at the top of the page instead of starting to write at the bottom and then cutting and pasting it to the top. Any way to make Seamonkey change this behavior? Seamonkey also seems backwards in that by default it lists emails in the box from oldest to newest. Go to each individual email box in Edit Mail newsgroup setting choose Composition Addressing them click on button start reply at bottom. and choose start reply at top. Note: here in this group you will booed - hissed at, chastised, cursed, and flogged to do , what is known as top posting. It frowned upon here. But if your _contacts_ are use to Top Posting then by all means set as you desire. People know my opinion on Top posting and I want go into it further. I had a client write me in January after I had interspersed my respective replies after each paragraph of his message: I always wanted to ask you to write your response above my message and not mix with my original text. It takes me a long time to read your response and often I just give up. It bleeping blew me away. I thought I was doing him a favor by putting each answer with the corresponding question. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: newest version
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: I would be perfectly satisfied with a world in which multiple browsers competed for market share but websites were coded to W3C standards. That would be a level playing field and the best browser(s) would win. So would I, but that's not reality. And anyway, how is writing a single version of compliant code not accommodating all browsers? Are some browsers unable to display compliant pages? We all know that IE, produced by the 500 pound gorilla on the block, does not display compliant pages . . . compliantly in many cases. IE will display the page, but if the code is not written in IE standards (which in many cases differs substantially from W3C), it may display that compliant code way out of whack. I don't like that, but that is the reality. Until the market share shifts SUBSTANTIALLY toward FF/SM, developers will be faced with the reality that, even though they write W3C compliant code, it may not be displayed properly via IE. And even then (i.e. if the market share shifts substantially to FF/SM), I'm not so sure MS will surrender to W3C compliance. I'm sure that 500 pound gorilla has something ready to thwart that circumstance when the time comes (if it ever does). BJ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03
cmcadams wrote: Last evening I finally uninstalled 1.1.18, and installed 2.03. My Profiles Bookmarks Email and newsgroup accounts Addresses Saved emails didn't make the trip. 2.0.3's wizard said it had imported everything, but no evidence of that. Asking 2.03 to import the missing items after installation was fruitless since I don't use Eudora, Outlook, etc. The browser itself was functional. 1.1.18 is now back in use. The OS is XP SP3. Yes, I have a nonstandard SM installation. Program files are installed to: E:\Mozilla\SMonkey to keep my boot partition smaller, which makes boot partition image backups easier. 2.0.3 was installed to the same location. 1.1.18's config files have always been in the standard place: C:\Documents and Settings\[myname]\Application Data Has anyone dealt with this before, or can point me to a page where someone has? I had issues like that clear back when they came-out with SeaMonkey 2- the best way is not to upgrade until they get all the bugs worked-out, I think there's a settings under preferences, advanced for Seamonkey not to search for a upgrade. Stay tuned to this channel for news of when a good version comes out. Jack ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Quote: top or bottom of the page
Yes, Click Edit then Mail and Newsgroup settings, then composition and addressing, and it be the second or third thing down. Jack ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Email Replies Backwards
Kurt wrote: When I reply to an email, the text cursor is way down at the bottom of the email. I believe all my contacts that use Microsoft email and have grown accustomed to replies being at the beginning of the email will be confounded by replies at the end of the email. When I jump up to begin the reply it takes on the font of the So and So wrote line, which is Times New Roman and terrible for online viewing. It is a small annoyance, but I would like to start my response at the top of the page instead of starting to write at the bottom and then cutting and pasting it to the top. Any way to make Seamonkey change this behavior? Seamonkey also seems backwards in that by default it lists emails in the box from oldest to newest. I also forgot to add there is a sort-order button- just click on where it says date and Sea Monkey will sort either up or down. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Bad upgrade from 1.1.18 to 2.03
u...@domain.invalid wrote: cmcadams wrote: Last evening I finally uninstalled 1.1.18, and installed 2.03. My Profiles Bookmarks Email and newsgroup accounts Addresses Saved emails didn't make the trip. 2.0.3's wizard said it had imported everything, but no evidence of that. Asking 2.03 to import the missing items after installation was fruitless since I don't use Eudora, Outlook, etc. The browser itself was functional. 1.1.18 is now back in use. The OS is XP SP3. Yes, I have a nonstandard SM installation. Program files are installed to: E:\Mozilla\SMonkey to keep my boot partition smaller, which makes boot partition image backups easier. 2.0.3 was installed to the same location. 1.1.18's config files have always been in the standard place: C:\Documents and Settings\[myname]\Application Data Has anyone dealt with this before, or can point me to a page where someone has? I had issues like that clear back when they came-out with SeaMonkey 2- the best way is not to upgrade until they get all the bugs worked-out, I think there's a settings under preferences, advanced for Seamonkey not to search for a upgrade. Stay tuned to this channel for news of when a good version comes out. Jack Was afraid of that. Thanks. Craig ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
