Thread hijacking

[Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)]

What does any of the following have to do with
"SSL Exploit: Mozilla family no better than the rest of the pack",
the original topic of the thread in which you posted ?

If you want to start yet another pointless flame war on
so-called "list etiquette", please do so in a new thread,
don't hijack the original one.

Thank you.

NoOp wrote:


On 09/29/2011 05:27 PM, d...@kd4e.com wrote:



In addition to HTML 5 supposedly displacing some of the needs for Java,
wasn't there a project of some sort that provided for an open-source
substitute for Java ... or was that just a silly dream?



I think that you've been reminded of this before, but if not I'll repeat:

http://www.mozilla.org/about/forums/etiquette.html

Top-posting vs bottom-posting.

 Some people like to put reply after the quoted text, some like it
the other way around, and still some prefer interspersed style. Debates
about which posting style is better have led to many flame wars in the
forums. To keep forum discussion friendly, please do interspersion with
trimming (see above for trimming rules). For a simple reply, this is
equivalent bottom-posting. So, remove extraneous material, and place
your comments in logical order, after the text you are commenting upon.
The only exceptions are the accessibility forums, which are top-posting.

...

Please refrain from 'Top-posting'. Thanks.
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Re: search button inactiv in 2.4 version

[M]

denewton wrote:

Hello,
With the last release 2.4 I downloaded, the "search button", to get
diretly google, for exemple, is absolutly inactiv (on two machines XP). I
reinstall 2.3.3 and it is running again.
What is brocken ?
sincerly
Bertrand


Just to confirm your problem. Google search button was also inactive on 
both my desktop and laptop. Also reverted back for same reason.

Thanks for posting I thought it may have been an OS problem

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Re: SM 2.4 Composer No Symbols

[Rostyslaw Lewyckyj]

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

Hrm can you or someone file a bug, and mark "Tracking SeaMonkey 2.5:?"
it is unfortunately too late to fix for SeaMonkey 2.4 :(


Mark was faster than me, and there I cannot set the flag:


Greetings,

Jens

Well since there are now several precedents for third level x.y.z bug 
fix releases.  2.4.1 being the latest. Then perhaps correct the

chrome://editor/content/EdInsertChars.js file and release an SM 2.4.2,
or issue a hot-fix patch and remember to do a permanent fix for 2.5,
or some 2.4.y > 2.4.1 .
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Re: IN SHORT: SeaMonkey 2.4.1 released

[Rostyslaw Lewyckyj]

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

Hey, I just wanted to mention, semi-official-like that SeaMonkey 2.4.1
is now out.

This fixes *only* the issue with addons disappearing that was also the
cause of Firefox 7.0.1.

I'll get a more official looking announcement up tomorrow, (today was my
birthday, so prior plans occupied most of my day, and a bit of actual
release work to make sure I could get this out).


And we are quietly back to third level (x.y.z) bug fix releases of SM. :-)
Keep them coming! Stretch out the intervals between (x.y) and (x.y+1),
so that (x.y) might get better stabilized.
After all an (x.y) product release is just the start of the (unofficial) 
gamma test phase :-)

[Except, I know ... SM scheduling is tightly tied to the mozilla
FF/TB product policies ]
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Re: Made a Big Mistake !

[DoctorBill]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/25/11 9:33 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 9/25/11 5:35 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

I have both SeaMonkey 1.1 and 2.0 on my desktop.

I have been purposefully using SM 1.1 because I like the way my Tabs
worked with Pirro's Tabbed Browser.

Solike an idiot, when a message came up to update the Adobe Flash
Player - I did it.  Fool.

Now SM 1.1 blows out (Windows closes it) on certain Forums that I go to.
http://britishmilitariaforums.yuku.com/
for one.

Is there a way to reverse this or go back to before I updated Adobe 
Flash Player ?


...or better yet, can I fix it ?

I hope so.

DoctorBill

Don't you like the tabs that are inherent in SM 2?


Reading what I said, I don't appreciate the 2.0 tabs.

I have the menu set to trow up new tabs with each new link clicked.

It doesn't do it !

I have to right click every new link and choose open in a new tab.
If it did so as the menu says it should, I would be fine with SM 2.0.

If you know how to make 2.0 behave, please clue me in.

I deleted the New Adobe Flashplayer and the plugin and installed a 
non-IE version and all appears well now.


DoctorBill


I see that you are using a PC with some form of Windows.  The following
requires that you have a 3-button mouse or a 2-button mouse with a
scroll wheel.

On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Edit > Preferences].  On the left
side of the Preferences window under Category, select [Browser > Tabbed
Browsing].  On the Tabbed Browsing pane, select the checkbox (to put a
checkmark in it) for "Middle-click, Ctrl+click [etc]" near the bottom
under "Open tabs instead of windows for".  Select the OK button.

If you have a two-button mouse with a scroll wheel, you are not yet
done.  At the left of the Windows task bar, select [Start > Settings >
Control Panel].  On the Control Panel window, select (double-click)
Mouse.  On the Mouse Properties window, select the Buttons tab.  On the
Buttons pane, select Button 3 and then the Modify button.  On the Modify
Button Function window, select the down-pointing triangle to get a
selection list; and select Middle Button.  Select the OK button on the
Modify Button Function window and then the OK button on the Mouse
Properties window.

Now, when you place your cursor over a link and click the middle button
or scroll wheel, the link will open a Web page in a new tab.  Note that,
with SeaMonkey 2, tabs can be dragged into a new order (e.g., moving the
2nd tab to after the 4th tab).



No.  The above does not work !

I had the tabbed browser already set to what you told me.

I have a two button mouse with a scroll wheel set to double click when 
pressing the wheel down.


SM 2.0 acts like IE - that is, no tabs come up when a link is pressed.

I HAVE to right click and choose open a new tab for it to work !

WHY would this SM, version 2 . 0 .14 do that ?

It's like it is ignoring the choices !

DoctorBill
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IN SHORT: SeaMonkey 2.4.1 released

[Justin Wood (Callek)]

Hey, I just wanted to mention, semi-official-like that SeaMonkey 2.4.1 
is now out.


This fixes *only* the issue with addons disappearing that was also the 
cause of Firefox 7.0.1.


I'll get a more official looking announcement up tomorrow, (today was my 
birthday, so prior plans occupied most of my day, and a bit of actual 
release work to make sure I could get this out).


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Re: Trash Folder

[Danny Kile]

NoOp wrote:

On 09/29/2011 03:49 PM, Danny Kile wrote:

Philipp van Hüllen wrote:

Danny Kile schrieb:

Creating an e-mail composer saves the message every 5 minutes to prevent
lost. However, after sending it there will be a message created in the
trash folder for every 5 minutes that passed. So if you took 20 minutes
to create an e-mail there will be 4 message with the same name in the
trash folder. So is this a bug or what?

Thank you for any help in this matter!


I always considered this a feature, since it gives you a history of the
typing of a mail. (Somewhat like every-5-minutes-saved-revision-history.)
E.g. you could restore text you deleted at some point during typing.

Since the old files are automatically marked for deletion, they usually
should not pose any problems.

One exception might be, if you attach large files, do this at the
beginning of writing and then get plenty of copies of those.
Especially with IMAP folders and (rather) slow uplink speeds this might
make you attach large files only just before sending.
(Including the 1:10 chance to forget the attachments.)

Just my 5 cents...

Philipp


Is there a way to disable this so called feature?

Danny


Does Edit|Mail&  Newsgroups|Composition|un-ticking 'Automatically save
the message every' not work for you?

Thank you for the reply, I guess I will keep the option for now, and 
then I can always disable it later. I just figured that one copy would 
be enough.


Thanks, Danny
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Re: SSL Exploit: Mozilla family no better than the rest of the pack

[NoOp]

On 09/29/2011 05:27 PM, d...@kd4e.com wrote:
> In addition to HTML 5 supposedly displacing some of the needs for Java,
> wasn't there a project of some sort that provided for an open-source
> substitute for Java ... or was that just a silly dream?
> 

I think that you've been reminded of this before, but if not I'll repeat:

http://www.mozilla.org/about/forums/etiquette.html

Top-posting vs bottom-posting.

Some people like to put reply after the quoted text, some like it
the other way around, and still some prefer interspersed style. Debates
about which posting style is better have led to many flame wars in the
forums. To keep forum discussion friendly, please do interspersion with
trimming (see above for trimming rules). For a simple reply, this is
equivalent bottom-posting. So, remove extraneous material, and place
your comments in logical order, after the text you are commenting upon.
The only exceptions are the accessibility forums, which are top-posting.

...

Please refrain from 'Top-posting'. Thanks.
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Re: SSL Exploit: Mozilla family no better than the rest of the pack

[NoOp]

On 09/29/2011 05:12 PM, Robert Kaiser wrote:
> NoOp schrieb:
>> Thanks for the clarification. Java goes off until either Mozilla and/or
>> Oracle fix _their_ issues.
> 
> To be clear, those issues are completely on Oracle's side, the Mozilla 
> code doesn't have an issue wrt Java, and the other major plugins are 
> safe as well as we found out. The Java plugin itself is the thing that 
> has the security issue, and a published one at that.
> 
> Robert Kaiser
> 
> 

I'm not sure I fully understand (or probably ever will)...

{(CVE-2011-3389) Rizzo/Duong chosen plaintext attack on SSL/TLS 1.0
(facilitated by websockets -76)]
doesn't seem to indicate java, but instead nss as being the issue. So,
"to be clear": is it a java or nss issue?



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Re: History Problem still Broken in Seamonkey 2.4 :-(

[David E. Ross]

On 9/29/11 12:10 PM, JAS wrote:
> FourthDr wrote:
>> Please fix the problem with Seamonkey's history window. Basically, if
>> you hit ctrl+H and try to delete anything in the history window
>> nothing appears to happen. But if you then close the history window,
>> then re-open it the items you tried to delete are now gone. So, yes
>> the items get deleted but the window does not reflect the fact until
>> you close and re-open the history window. Needless to say this is not
>> helpful when trying to manage a large list of history items. Please
>> fix this in the next release, 2.4.1?
> History deletion works fine for me in SM 2.3.3--might be a theme also.
> 

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0) Gecko/20110923 SeaMonkey/2.4

This is still a problem, and it exists when running in Safe Mode.  See
bug #686326 at .
Note that this is a Toolkit bug, not a SeaMonkey bug.

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SeaMonkey 2.4 and Mac OS 10.6.8

[Paul Bergsagel]

My experience with the SeaMonkey 2.4 is not good.

Has anyone else found that SeaMonkey 2.4 is not all that stable. It 
crashes at least once an hour.


Here is what the release notes had to report about the 2.4 release:

   Most notably, this release features for the first time:

  Drastically improved memory use

  Fixed several stability issues.


I am finding that SeaMonkey 2.4 (at least on Mac OS) uses more NOT less 
memory.


It is stated that SeaMonkey 2.4 fixed several stability issues. My 
experience of v 2.3 was very stable. Before v 2.4 I cannot remember when 
SeaMonkey unexpectedly quit. Now with v 2.4 SeaMonkey crashes 
(unexpectedly quits) about once an hour.



This is not a complaint. I am generally pleased with SeaMonkey, but if 
something is not done about the crashes I may have to revert to 
SeaMonkey 2.3.

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Re: SSL Exploit: Mozilla family no better than the rest of the pack

[d...@kd4e.com]

In addition to HTML 5 supposedly displacing some of the needs for Java,
wasn't there a project of some sort that provided for an open-source
substitute for Java ... or was that just a silly dream?


Thanks for the clarification. Java goes off until either Mozilla and/or
Oracle fix _their_ issues.


To be clear, those issues are completely on Oracle's side, the Mozilla
code doesn't have an issue wrt Java, and the other major plugins are
safe as well as we found out. The Java plugin itself is the thing that
has the security issue, and a published one at that.

Robert Kaiser


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Re: can't get flashplayer to work!! HELP!

[Paul B. Gallagher]

MCBastos wrote:


Interviewed by CNN on 29/09/2011 11:27, dirk told the world:

thank you, but I forgot to mention that the flash player does actually
work in Google Chrome and in Internet Explorer but NOT in Seamonkey
nor in Firefox.


Well, that's because they are DIFFERENT Flash players.

Chrome has a copy of Flash built in, so it doesn't care if you have it
installed or not.

IE (and IE-derived browsers, such as Maxthon) needs a special version
(ActiveX) installation.

All other browsers, like Seamonkey, Firefox, Opera, Safari -- including
Iron, which is a modified version of Chrome -- share a common
installation of Flash, separate from the one IE uses.


Note also that there are two flash applets:

Adobe Flash Player 10 Plugin (current version 10.3.183.10)
Adobe Shockwave Player 11.6 (current version 11.6.1.629)

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Re: SSL Exploit: Mozilla family no better than the rest of the pack

[Robert Kaiser]

NoOp schrieb:

Thanks for the clarification. Java goes off until either Mozilla and/or
Oracle fix _their_ issues.


To be clear, those issues are completely on Oracle's side, the Mozilla 
code doesn't have an issue wrt Java, and the other major plugins are 
safe as well as we found out. The Java plugin itself is the thing that 
has the security issue, and a published one at that.


Robert Kaiser


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Re: Potential Issues with SeaMonkey 2.4.1 (and Firefox 7.0.1)

[MCBastos]

Interviewed by CNN on 29/09/2011 16:23, NoOp told the world:

> I've had no issues with that in SeaMonkey 2.4.1 (linux) so far. BTW:
> that preference (browser.urlbar.trimURLs) doesn't exist in mine.
> 
> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929
> Firefox/7.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.4.1

AFAIK this has not been implemented in Seamonkey yet (if it ever will,
that is... SM users don't seem to care much for it), only in Firefox.

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Re: can't get flashplayer to work!! HELP!

[MCBastos]

Interviewed by CNN on 29/09/2011 11:27, dirk told the world:
> thank you, but I forgot to mention that the flash player does actually 
> work in Google Chrome and in Internet Explorer but NOT in Seamonkey 
> nor in Firefox.

Well, that's because they are DIFFERENT Flash players.

Chrome has a copy of Flash built in, so it doesn't care if you have it
installed or not.

IE (and IE-derived browsers, such as Maxthon) needs a special version
(ActiveX) installation.

All other browsers, like Seamonkey, Firefox, Opera, Safari -- including
Iron, which is a modified version of Chrome -- share a common
installation of Flash, separate from the one IE uses.


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Re: SSL Exploit: Mozilla family no better than the rest of the pack

[NoOp]

On 09/29/2011 03:50 PM, Robert Kaiser wrote:
> NoOp schrieb:
>> Blocking all versions of Java on all versions of Firefox + SeaMonkey?
> 
> Yes.
> 
>> Seriously?
> 
> Yes, as it's a security hazard and we don't know of any plans of Oracle 
> to fix it.
> 
>> Are you referring to this:
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=689661
>> [Block Java Plugin due to security vulnerabilities (BEAST TLS and bug in
>> same-origin-policy)]
> 
> Yes.
> 
>> Doing that kills sites that use java. Example:
>> http://myspeed.visualware.com/index.php
> 
> Yes.
> 
>> Users can easily turn on/off java using prefbar.
> 
> Doesn't apply to the majority of users that don't even know what prefbar 
> is. Users will be able to turn it on again if they must, but it's a 
> security risk.
...

Thanks for the clarification. Java goes off until either Mozilla and/or
Oracle fix _their_ issues. Might be a good idea to post a separate
thread/subject on this list informing users on how to easily disable
Java via other means outside of prefbar.

Tools|Add-ons Manager|Plugins|Java(TM)  Plug-in|Disable doesn't
seem to work on 2.4.1 (linux). Nor via about:config:
security.enable_java;false
I can *only* disable (checking via http://java.com) via prefbar.
I'll test in a 'test' profile to see if the results are different.

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Re: Trash Folder

[NoOp]

On 09/29/2011 03:49 PM, Danny Kile wrote:
> Philipp van Hüllen wrote:
>> Danny Kile schrieb:
>>> Creating an e-mail composer saves the message every 5 minutes to prevent
>>> lost. However, after sending it there will be a message created in the
>>> trash folder for every 5 minutes that passed. So if you took 20 minutes
>>> to create an e-mail there will be 4 message with the same name in the
>>> trash folder. So is this a bug or what?
>>>
>>> Thank you for any help in this matter!
>>
>> I always considered this a feature, since it gives you a history of the
>> typing of a mail. (Somewhat like every-5-minutes-saved-revision-history.)
>> E.g. you could restore text you deleted at some point during typing.
>>
>> Since the old files are automatically marked for deletion, they usually
>> should not pose any problems.
>>
>> One exception might be, if you attach large files, do this at the
>> beginning of writing and then get plenty of copies of those.
>> Especially with IMAP folders and (rather) slow uplink speeds this might
>> make you attach large files only just before sending.
>> (Including the 1:10 chance to forget the attachments.)
>>
>> Just my 5 cents...
>>
>> Philipp
> 
> Is there a way to disable this so called feature?
> 
> Danny

Does Edit|Mail & Newsgroups|Composition|un-ticking 'Automatically save
the message every' not work for you?

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Re: SSL Exploit: Mozilla family no better than the rest of the pack

[Robert Kaiser]

NoOp schrieb:

Blocking all versions of Java on all versions of Firefox + SeaMonkey?


Yes.


Seriously?


Yes, as it's a security hazard and we don't know of any plans of Oracle 
to fix it.



Are you referring to this:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=689661
[Block Java Plugin due to security vulnerabilities (BEAST TLS and bug in
same-origin-policy)]


Yes.


Doing that kills sites that use java. Example:
http://myspeed.visualware.com/index.php


Yes.


Users can easily turn on/off java using prefbar.


Doesn't apply to the majority of users that don't even know what prefbar 
is. Users will be able to turn it on again if they must, but it's a 
security risk.



Robert Kaiser

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Re: Trash Folder

[Danny Kile]

Philipp van Hüllen wrote:

Danny Kile schrieb:

Creating an e-mail composer saves the message every 5 minutes to prevent
lost. However, after sending it there will be a message created in the
trash folder for every 5 minutes that passed. So if you took 20 minutes
to create an e-mail there will be 4 message with the same name in the
trash folder. So is this a bug or what?

Thank you for any help in this matter!


I always considered this a feature, since it gives you a history of the
typing of a mail. (Somewhat like every-5-minutes-saved-revision-history.)
E.g. you could restore text you deleted at some point during typing.

Since the old files are automatically marked for deletion, they usually
should not pose any problems.

One exception might be, if you attach large files, do this at the
beginning of writing and then get plenty of copies of those.
Especially with IMAP folders and (rather) slow uplink speeds this might
make you attach large files only just before sending.
(Including the 1:10 chance to forget the attachments.)

Just my 5 cents...

Philipp


Is there a way to disable this so called feature?

Danny
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Re: Inbox messages gone after compacting folders

[NoOp]

On 09/29/2011 12:02 AM, Dawnie J Baldo wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I lost all of the emails in the inbox on one of my accounts after 
> compacting the folders on that account. Is there a way to retrieve them?
...
Have you tried:
View|Messages|All
on that folder to see if they show?

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Re: SSL Exploit: Mozilla family no better than the rest of the pack

[NoOp]

On 09/29/2011 07:44 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote:
> Paul B. Gallagher schrieb:
>> HACKERS BREAK SSL ENCRYPTION USED BY MILLIONS OF SITES
> 
> That doesn't sounds correct. Firefox itself is not affected at all when 
> WebSockets are turned off. And WebSockets are not used by millions of 
> sites. It looks like the Java plugins is affected though and we are 
> discussing blocking all versions of Java on all versions of Firefox.
> 
> The same should be true 1:1 for SeaMonkey.
> 
> Robert Kaiser
> 

Blocking all versions of Java on all versions of Firefox + SeaMonkey?
Seriously?

Are you referring to this:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=689661
[Block Java Plugin due to security vulnerabilities (BEAST TLS and bug in
same-origin-policy)]

Doing that kills sites that use java. Example:
http://myspeed.visualware.com/index.php

Users can easily turn on/off java using prefbar.

Related (from that bug report):




Seems like dejavu:

[Mozilla blocks Firefox Java plugin]
"Discussions on Bugzilla show this is unrelated to a flaw in Java Web
Start affecting multiple browsers and patched by Oracle via an
out-of-sequence (emergency) update last week."

[Mozilla Block Java Deployment Toolkit]
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Re: Software update : missing option

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


You overlooked the key element, Paul : I want to be notified when
the /next/ release is available, not the current one.


In that case, keep on monitoring the NG. ;-)


When I tell Windows Update that I don't want to install the latest
Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool, and that I don't want to
ask again, it has the sense to know that I am talking about the
current MMSRT, and when the next one comes along, it will ask me all
over again. Surely you don't want Microsoft to be able to tell the
world that, in one respect at least, their software is better than
Mozilla's, /and/ be telling the truth ?


Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

With thousands of different points of comparison, it's inevitable that 
they would be better here and there. The Twins have a better catcher in 
Joe Mauer, but the Yankees are in the playoffs. I'll take the Yankees.


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Re: Software update : missing option

[Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


You overlooked the key element, Paul : I want to be
notified when the /next/ release is available, not
the current one.


In that case, keep on monitoring the NG. ;-)


When I tell Windows Update that I don't want to install
the latest Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool, and
that I don't want to ask again, it has the sense to know
that I am talking about the current MMSRT, and when the next
one comes along, it will ask me all over again.  Surely
you don't want Microsoft to be able to tell the world
that, in one respect at least, their software is better
than Mozilla's, /and/ be telling the truth ?

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Re: Software update : missing option

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:


I am being pestered by Seamonkey Central to update to V2.4; from
discussions on this list, I know that I do not want to, and prefer to
wait for the bug fixes in V2.5 Yet there is no option on the
"Software Update" pop-up to "Don't remind me again" : the only two
options offered are "Ask Later" and "Update Seamonkey". Could we
please have have "Don't remind me again" (until a new version is
released) added to this set ?


Easy peasy.

Edit | Preferences | Advanced | Software Installation

Uncheck the box where it says SM should check for updates to itself
(lower half of the panel). If it stops checking, then logically it
will have to stop nagging.


You overlooked the key element, Paul : I want to be
notified when the /next/ release is available, not
the current one.


In that case, keep on monitoring the NG. ;-)

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Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues

[Sailfish]

My bloviated meandering follows what JAS graced us with on 9/29/2011 
12:07 PM:

Sailfish wrote:


Also, the alternate throbber should not be a Netscape one but, rather,
the Mozilla throbber that originally came with that theme.


Yes you are correct, bad eyesight. I am using this on a netbook.


Okay, don't hesitate to let me know if you have additional questions.

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Re: Potential Issues with SeaMonkey 2.4.1 (and Firefox 7.0.1)

[NoOp]

On 09/29/2011 05:12 AM, MCBastos wrote:
> Interviewed by CNN on 29/09/2011 08:27, Philip Chee told the world:
>> On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 11:24:45 +0100, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Philip Chee wrote:
>>>
>>>> * A few complaints about the missing http (not a lot... but some
>>>> comments that it broke intranet pages and general whining)
>>>
>>> Could you expand on this one, please, Philip ?
>> 
>> Firebadger 7.0.1 now hides the leading "http(s)://" and the trailing "/"
>> in the URLbar.
>> 
>> Phil
>> 
> 
> Just to complement: this behavior can be disabled in the Firefox
> about:config, by setting browser.urlbar.trimURLs to "disabled."
> 

I've had no issues with that in SeaMonkey 2.4.1 (linux) so far. BTW:
that preference (browser.urlbar.trimURLs) doesn't exist in mine.

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929
Firefox/7.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.4.1

Tested using:
https://launchpad.net/

Note: The only Firefox 7.0.1 I've found is a 'contributed' build so I
couldn't check there. But did check in
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0a1) Gecko/20110929 Firefox/10.0a1
and the "http(s)://" shows up. However the trailing "/" doesn't show up
with
browser.urlbar.trimURLs;true
To test I used the same link as I did with SM 2.4.1:
https://launchpad.net/
in FF 10.0a1 it shows up as:
https://launchpad.net
unless set to false & then is shows up as
https://launchpad.net/

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Re: History Problem still Broken in Seamonkey 2.4 :-(

[JAS]

FourthDr wrote:
> Please fix the problem with Seamonkey's history window. Basically, if
> you hit ctrl+H and try to delete anything in the history window
> nothing appears to happen. But if you then close the history window,
> then re-open it the items you tried to delete are now gone. So, yes
> the items get deleted but the window does not reflect the fact until
> you close and re-open the history window. Needless to say this is not
> helpful when trying to manage a large list of history items. Please
> fix this in the next release, 2.4.1?
History deletion works fine for me in SM 2.3.3--might be a theme also.

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Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues

[JAS]

Sailfish wrote:
>
>
> Also, the alternate throbber should not be a Netscape one but, rather,
> the Mozilla throbber that originally came with that theme.
>
Yes you are correct, bad eyesight. I am using this on a netbook.

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Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues

[Sailfish]

My bloviated meandering follows what JAS graced us with on 9/29/2011 
11:12 AM:

Sailfish wrote:

Just to be sure you're not misunderstanding. These buttons should not
act any differently in All American than they do in the default theme.
If you believe that they are, please provide me a detail scenario of
where it differs so I can investigate it further.


It was entirely my error, I had it confused with "next". But one other
question- I have the flag throbber in mail but just the regular netscape
one in the browser. Is there any way to have the flag in both?

The flag throbber takes up a large amount of vertical space so it is 
only displayed when you have the Customize "Use Small Icons" box 
unchecked. The downside is that in that mode, button text is not display 
(although, the hover-over button label does display the button name.)


Also, the alternate throbber should not be a Netscape one but, rather, 
the Mozilla throbber that originally came with that theme.


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Re: History Problem still Broken in Seamonkey 2.4 :-(

[Justin Wood (Callek)]

On 9/29/2011 2:21 PM, FourthDr wrote:

Please fix the problem with Seamonkey's history window. Basically, if
you hit ctrl+H and try to delete anything in the history window
nothing appears to happen. But if you then close the history window,
then re-open it the items you tried to delete are now gone. So, yes
the items get deleted but the window does not reflect the fact until
you close and re-open the history window. Needless to say this is not
helpful when trying to manage a large list of history items. Please
fix this in the next release, 2.4.1?


I do not encounter this behavior when testing, can you try with addons 
disabled?


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History Problem still Broken in Seamonkey 2.4 :-(

[FourthDr]

Please fix the problem with Seamonkey's history window. Basically, if
you hit ctrl+H and try to delete anything in the history window
nothing appears to happen. But if you then close the history window,
then re-open it the items you tried to delete are now gone. So, yes
the items get deleted but the window does not reflect the fact until
you close and re-open the history window. Needless to say this is not
helpful when trying to manage a large list of history items. Please
fix this in the next release, 2.4.1?
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Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues

[JAS]

Sailfish wrote:
> Just to be sure you're not misunderstanding. These buttons should not
> act any differently in All American than they do in the default theme.
> If you believe that they are, please provide me a detail scenario of
> where it differs so I can investigate it further.
>
It was entirely my error, I had it confused with "next". But one other
question- I have the flag throbber in mail but just the regular netscape
one in the browser. Is there any way to have the flag in both?

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Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues

[Sailfish]

My bloviated meandering follows what JAS graced us with on 9/29/2011 
6:09 AM:

Referring to the images above, this is what I'm seeing. In the first
one, both buttons are disabled since I haven't navigated to another
message. The second one, the "Back one message" button becomes active
(Forward one message still inactive) since I navigated to a new
message. The third one shows the "Forward one message" active (Back
one message becomes inactive) right after clicking the previous "Back
one message" button.

Is this not what you're seeing?


You are correct, I was used to using the buttons to move through the
list, just up or down and was not paying attention to the real use of
the buttons in All American. Sorry for any inconvenience.

Just to be sure you're not misunderstanding. These buttons should not 
act any differently in All American than they do in the default theme. 
If you believe that they are, please provide me a detail scenario of 
where it differs so I can investigate it further.


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Re: search button inactiv in 2.4 version

[NoOp]

On 09/29/2011 05:05 AM, WLS wrote:
> denewton wrote:
>> Hello,
>> With the last release 2.4 I downloaded, the "search button", to get
>> diretly google, for exemple, is absolutly inactiv (on two machines XP).
>> I reinstall 2.3.3 and it is running again.
>> What is brocken ?
>> sincerly
>> Bertrand
> 
> Added the Search Button to my toolbar to test, and it worked for me on 
> openSUSE 11.3 Linux.
> 
> 

Did the same & works for me on:

2.4 linux (32 & 64bit)
2.4 Windows (WinXP & Win7)

I can't replicate Bertrand's problem.

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Re: Lost extensions/add-ons in 2.4

[Justin Wood (Callek)]

Oedipe wrote:

Here we go again, i've lost two extensions not compatible with the 2.4
recent upgrade :-(

I begin to be quite fed-up with all these automatic upgrades...



Known issue based on Core Gecko, not a SeaMonkey specific issue. 
Discussed at: 
https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/add-ons-hidden-after-updating-firefox-7


As per that page there is a recovery tool that also works in SeaMonkey at:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/fx7-recovery/

We are preparing to deploy the real fix to both Firefox and SeaMonkey as 
I type this.


This issue is also currently listed in our known issues of release notes.

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Re: SM 2.4 Composer No Symbols

[Justin Wood (Callek)]

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

Hrm can you or someone file a bug, and mark "Tracking SeaMonkey 2.5:?"
it is unfortunately too late to fix for SeaMonkey 2.4 :(


Mark was faster than me, and there I cannot set the flag:




Looks like Mark landed it everywhere as well, of course, they spun their 
Gecko 7.0.1 builds after ours, and I won't be respinning just for this.


Thunderbird has this fix by default, I'll work on getting an addon 
written/uploaded for us for this fix though, and will of course take it 
in a SeaMonkey 2.4.2 *if* we ever need to spin that.


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Re: Thanks Justin

[Jens Hatlak]

Robert Kaiser wrote:

NoOp schrieb:

I'd just like to take time to thank you for the work that you are
doing with the SeaMonkey builds.


Seconded. Justin is doing splendid work here


So true.


we at Mozilla are using "splendid" now as we were told we're using
"awesome" too much


Hehe, finally. :-) Thanks for the insight!

Greetings,

Jens

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Re: Thanks Justin

[Robert Kaiser]

NoOp schrieb:

I'd just like to take time to thank you for the work that you are doing
with the SeaMonkey builds.


Seconded. Justin is doing splendid work here (we at Mozilla are using 
"splendid" now as we were told we're using "awesome" too much).


I repeatedly realize that Justin is one of the major reasons why I could 
transition to my new job that well, as he manages the build and release 
stuff extremely well. Thanks for that!


Robert Kaiser

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.4 Release -- New Features and Fixes

[Robert Kaiser]

MCBastos schrieb:

Interviewed by CNN on 28/09/2011 20:01, David E. Ross told the world:


I just was curious.  The installed seamonkey.exe has product version 2.4
but file version 7.0.0.4283.  The UA string indicates 2.4.  The buildID
is 20110923012712, which is obviously the date and time of the build.


I guess that file version refers to the Gecko engine.


More to the Mozilla platform, but the versions of Gecko and the platform 
are the same anyhow. ;-)


Robert Kaiser


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Re: SSL Exploit: Mozilla family no better than the rest of the pack

[Robert Kaiser]

Paul B. Gallagher schrieb:

HACKERS BREAK SSL ENCRYPTION USED BY MILLIONS OF SITES


That doesn't sounds correct. Firefox itself is not affected at all when 
WebSockets are turned off. And WebSockets are not used by millions of 
sites. It looks like the Java plugins is affected though and we are 
discussing blocking all versions of Java on all versions of Firefox.


The same should be true 1:1 for SeaMonkey.

Robert Kaiser

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Re: can't get flashplayer to work!! HELP!

[dirk]

working now!

Installed directly (due to "some known issues with the current Flash 
Player download center") from:


http://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player.exe

seems to be a different version, especially for Firefox, found it at 
http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/191/tn_19166.html#main_Uninstall


under


[cut]

Advanced Troubleshooting

Adobe has identified some known issues with the current Flash Player 
download center, and the engineering team is currently working to 
address them.


Here are the temporary workarounds for the following issues.

1. Authenticating Proxy Servers

Issue: The Flash Player installer sometimes has trouble working behind 
some proxy server environments.


Workaround: Download the Adobe Flash Player installer directly by 
clicking one of the following links.


Flash Player for ActiveX (Internet Explorer)
http://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_ax.exe

Flash Player Plug-in (All other Windows browsers)
http://fpdownload.adobe.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player.exe

[cut]


Hope this helps others too.

Thanks,

DJ




MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 29/09/2011 06:49, dirk told the world:


downloaded and installed it, then run SM, asks for plugin, install
plugin, install fails, asks for manual install (player is visible in
program manager, so uninstalled it, downloaded it again, reinstall),
rerun SM, same loop.



Try following the Adobe troubleshooting procedure:

http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/191/tn_19166.html




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Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues

[S. Beaulieu]

Robert Kaiser a écrit :


What are you talking about? ChatZilla is surely still bundled.



I thought I'd read here that it now had to be installed separately. My bad!

S.

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Re: can't get flashplayer to work!! HELP!

[dirk]

thank you, but I forgot to mention that the flash player does actually 
work in Google Chrome and in Internet Explorer but NOT in Seamonkey 
nor in Firefox.


DJ






MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 29/09/2011 06:49, dirk told the world:


downloaded and installed it, then run SM, asks for plugin, install
plugin, install fails, asks for manual install (player is visible in
program manager, so uninstalled it, downloaded it again, reinstall),
rerun SM, same loop.



Try following the Adobe troubleshooting procedure:

http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/191/tn_19166.html




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Re: Software update : missing option

[Larry]

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, regularly) wrote:



Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:


I am being pestered by Seamonkey Central to update to V2.4; from
discussions on this list, I know that I do not want to, and prefer to
wait for the bug fixes in V2.5 Yet there is no option on the
"Software Update" pop-up to "Don't remind me again" : the only two
options offered are "Ask Later" and "Update Seamonkey". Could we
please have have "Don't remind me again" (until a new version is
released) added to this set ?


Easy peasy.

Edit | Preferences | Advanced | Software Installation

Uncheck the box where it says SM should check for updates to itself
(lower half of the panel). If it stops checking, then logically it
will have to stop nagging.


You overlooked the key element, Paul : I want to be
notified when the /next/ release is available, not
the current one.

Philip Taylor
I'm confused (and easily so!). Availability of new releases is regularly 
posted on this newsgroup, where you are a frequent visitor. What am I 
missing?


Larry
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Re: Software update : missing option

[Ray_Net]

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:



Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:


I am being pestered by Seamonkey Central to update to V2.4; from
discussions on this list, I know that I do not want to, and prefer to
wait for the bug fixes in V2.5 Yet there is no option on the
"Software Update" pop-up to "Don't remind me again" : the only two
options offered are "Ask Later" and "Update Seamonkey". Could we
please have have "Don't remind me again" (until a new version is
released) added to this set ?


Easy peasy.

Edit | Preferences | Advanced | Software Installation

Uncheck the box where it says SM should check for updates to itself
(lower half of the panel). If it stops checking, then logically it
will have to stop nagging.


You overlooked the key element, Paul : I want to be
notified when the /next/ release is available, not
the current one.


You are optimist and dream often :-)
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Re: Bookmarks

[Frog]

Frog wrote:

I have found what appears to be my lost bookmarks in the following file:

C:\Documents and Settings\frog\Application
Data\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ef6mjiq5.default\bookmarks.html

I believe that this is a good start at making my bookmarks work again.
At the present time, however, I don't know how to make them appear when
I click Bookmarks on my Web page. Do I now have to import the files from
bookmarks.html into the web browser? If not, how do I get them to
reappear when I click bookmarks at the top of my Web page window?

Please help me or give me a suggestion on where to find the answer to
this lingering problem.

Thanks,
Frog



Please forgive me for not knowing how to post a response to all of those 
who responded to my message.  Thanks to one and all for the information 
provided--it was all useful and helpful.


The reason for my wanting to establish a way of saving my profile 
information was based on a recent system re-do I had to perform.  My 
virus scan software latterly took control of my system...thus it had to 
go.  In the process of restoring data from an external hard drive 
complete backup of my system, I was confronted with loosing the data 
stored in my profile from the date of the backup to the current date.  I 
decided, once my system was back up and running properly again, that I 
needed to find a way of making a backup of my SeaMonkey (2.3.3) profile 
that could be made quickly during my routine system cleanup and later 
(when needed) be quickly restored to my system.  I had in mind that my 
E: drive (my data storage drive)was the place for this backup.  Although 
I have not completely achieved this goal, I have downloaded the 
"MozBackup" software that was recommended in this thread.  I believe, 
based on the limited information I have read about this software 
package, that it will fulfill my backup requirements.


Thanks to all who responded--the help was greatly appreciated.

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Re: SM 2.4 Composer No Symbols

[Ray_Net]

Brooke Clarke wrote:

Hi:

In composer under:
Insert \ Characters and Symbols
after the window opens there are no symbols in any of the possible
categories.
How to get this to work?



How is that possible ?

The SM gurus said that JKL in Windings(a symbol font) did not render as 
emoticons in SM. So, i am not surprised 

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Re: Software update : missing option

[Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:


I am being pestered by Seamonkey Central to update to V2.4; from
discussions on this list, I know that I do not want to, and prefer to
wait for the bug fixes in V2.5 Yet there is no option on the
"Software Update" pop-up to "Don't remind me again" : the only two
options offered are "Ask Later" and "Update Seamonkey". Could we
please have have "Don't remind me again" (until a new version is
released) added to this set ?


Easy peasy.

Edit | Preferences | Advanced | Software Installation

Uncheck the box where it says SM should check for updates to itself (lower half 
of the panel). If it stops checking, then logically it will have to stop 
nagging.


You overlooked the key element, Paul : I want to be
notified when the /next/ release is available, not
the current one.

Philip Taylor
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Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues

[JAS]

>
> Referring to the images above, this is what I'm seeing. In the first
> one, both buttons are disabled since I haven't navigated to another
> message. The second one, the "Back one message" button becomes active
> (Forward one message still inactive) since I navigated to a new
> message. The third one shows the "Forward one message" active (Back
> one message becomes inactive) right after clicking the previous "Back
> one message" button.
>
> Is this not what you're seeing?
>
You are correct, I was used to using the buttons to move through the
list, just up or down and was not paying attention to the real use of
the buttons in All American. Sorry for any inconvenience.

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Re: Potential Issues with SeaMonkey 2.4.1 (and Firefox 7.0.1)

[MCBastos]

Interviewed by CNN on 29/09/2011 08:27, Philip Chee told the world:
> On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 11:24:45 +0100, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:
>>
>>
>> Philip Chee wrote:
>>
>>> * A few complaints about the missing http (not a lot... but some
>>> comments that it broke intranet pages and general whining)
>>
>> Could you expand on this one, please, Philip ?
> 
> Firebadger 7.0.1 now hides the leading "http(s)://" and the trailing "/"
> in the URLbar.
> 
> Phil
> 

Just to complement: this behavior can be disabled in the Firefox
about:config, by setting browser.urlbar.trimURLs to "disabled."

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.4 Release -- New Features and Fixes

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I have seen the listing of problems (and I'm happy to report that so far
I seem to have escaped those unscathed -- perhaps because I don't use
the Yahoo toolbar...).

But one new feature I really, really, like is that Seamonkey now
remembers the correct folder to save files in a per-site basis. Since I
read (and save daily) more than a dozen webcomics, you can imagine how
happy I feel... funny, I don't remember this being even mentioned in the
enhancements for Firefox or Seamonkey, but there it is.

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Re: search button inactiv in 2.4 version

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denewton wrote:

Hello,
With the last release 2.4 I downloaded, the "search button", to get
diretly google, for exemple, is absolutly inactiv (on two machines XP).
I reinstall 2.3.3 and it is running again.
What is brocken ?
sincerly
Bertrand


Added the Search Button to my toolbar to test, and it worked for me on 
openSUSE 11.3 Linux.



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Re: can't get flashplayer to work!! HELP!

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Interviewed by CNN on 29/09/2011 06:49, dirk told the world:
> 
> downloaded and installed it, then run SM, asks for plugin, install 
> plugin, install fails, asks for manual install (player is visible in 
> program manager, so uninstalled it, downloaded it again, reinstall), 
> rerun SM, same loop.
> 

Try following the Adobe troubleshooting procedure:

http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/191/tn_19166.html


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Re: Potential Issues with SeaMonkey 2.4.1 (and Firefox 7.0.1)

[Philip Chee]

On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 11:24:45 +0100, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:
> 
> 
> Philip Chee wrote:
> 
>> * A few complaints about the missing http (not a lot... but some
>> comments that it broke intranet pages and general whining)
> 
> Could you expand on this one, please, Philip ?

Firebadger 7.0.1 now hides the leading "http(s)://" and the trailing "/"
in the URLbar.

Phil

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Re: Software update : missing option

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:


I am being pestered by Seamonkey Central to update to V2.4; from
discussions on this list, I know that I do not want to, and prefer to
wait for the bug fixes in V2.5 Yet there is no option on the
"Software Update" pop-up to "Don't remind me again" : the only two
options offered are "Ask Later" and "Update Seamonkey". Could we
please have have "Don't remind me again" (until a new version is
released) added to this set ?


Easy peasy.

Edit | Preferences | Advanced | Software Installation

Uncheck the box where it says SM should check for updates to itself 
(lower half of the panel). If it stops checking, then logically it will 
have to stop nagging.


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Re: Potential Issues with SeaMonkey 2.4.1 (and Firefox 7.0.1)

[Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)]

Philip Chee wrote:


* A few complaints about the missing http (not a lot... but some
comments that it broke intranet pages and general whining)


Could you expand on this one, please, Philip ?
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Potential Issues with SeaMonkey 2.4.1 (and Firefox 7.0.1)

[Philip Chee]

Firefox users upgrading to 7.0.x have reported the following problems.
Some of which may or may not affect SeaMonkey 2.4.x:

* Broken extensions:
o Yahoo Toolbar is a big one, apparently bookmarks stored there are
wiped out entirely. Lots of complaints of dataloss here. (May also be
bug 680802)
o One or two people saying noscript went missing (that's bug 680802).
o Lots of complaints about Norton toolbar -- Users have to update
via Norton first before updating Firefox.
o Kaspersky doesn't work at all.
o Java console also making a reappearance.
o 1Password - From kev "1Password switched to a full JS
implementation a while back. Users have been reluctant (from what I
understand) to upgrade because there's some functionality loss."
o Some banking extension (maybe trusteer)
o Roboform (also lots of complaints)

* Spike in people saying they lost bookmarks/favorites -- may be Yahoo
toolbar. I know people about two weeks ago were saying that we "forced
Yahoo on them" so I'm not sure what's going on and Yahoo may have eaten
the bookmarks. Or it can be the usual upgrade = profile loss.

* Firefox not responding randomly. (May be bug 686025 but triggered by
the update or some users are saying that they are updating directly from
5 because of this problem but it's back.)

* Lost sessions (but we see this with almost every update) -- may be
worse this time but hard to say.

* A few complaints about the missing http (not a lot... but some
comments that it broke intranet pages and general whining)

* Maybe something about Yahoo mail layouts being screwed up (can't
reproduce here.)
-

I think someone in the Mozillazine support forum reported a problem with
Yahoo mail layouts but nobody else in that thread could reproduce the
problem.

Phil

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.4 Release -- New Features and Fixes

[M van Ketel]

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

On 9/28/2011 6:24 AM, M van Ketel wrote:

Jens Hatlak wrote:

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:

Maybe the Seamonkey installer is signed using a certificate
originating from Staat der Nederlanden :-)


Close. Actually it's not signed at all, which is the issue here.

HTH

Jens



Okay, and it will not be as well?


Not anytime too soon, we have a few technical and procedural hurdles to
clear first. and no ETA on doing so.



Okay, thanks for the update.


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Software update : missing option

[Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)]

I am being pestered by Seamonkey Central to update to V2.4;
from discussions on this list, I know that I do not want to,
and prefer to wait for the bug fixes in V2.5  Yet there is
no option on the "Software Update" pop-up to "Don't remind me
again" : the only two options offered are "Ask Later"
and "Update Seamonkey".  Could we please have have "Don't
remind me again" (until a new version is released) added
to this set ?

Philip Taylor
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can't get flashplayer to work!! HELP!

[dirk]

downloaded and installed it, then run SM, asks for plugin, install 
plugin, install fails, asks for manual install (player is visible in 
program manager, so uninstalled it, downloaded it again, reinstall), 
rerun SM, same loop.


PLEASE, ANYONE???

DJ

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Re: SM 2.4 Composer No Symbols

[Jens Hatlak]

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

Hrm can you or someone file a bug, and mark "Tracking SeaMonkey 2.5:?"
it is unfortunately too late to fix for SeaMonkey 2.4 :(


Mark was faster than me, and there I cannot set the flag:


Greetings,

Jens

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Re: bookmarks sync

[Jens Hatlak]

Jay O'Brien wrote:

Where is documentation on sync I can review?


We don't have SM-specific documentation yet (I blame lack of time). For 
the time being, please check the Firefox documentation on the subject:





does it also sync message files and the like?


If by message files you mean MailNews info (including address book), 
then no. It currently supports only these (all optional):


* Bookmarks
* History
* Passwords
* Settings
* Tabs (provided as a per-client list to choose from)

If you're concerned about security: Sync encrypts all data on your 
client before it sends it to Mozilla's server. No-one but you has access 
to the data. That even goes so far that if you lose the login 
credentials, all data stored remotely is lost (i.e. Mozilla has no way 
to restore it for you). There's also the option to run your own Sync 
server, but that's more complicated to set up.


HTH

Jens

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Re: Disclose attribute on mouseover ?

[Jens Hatlak]

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:

What I am looking for is an attribute to  (and possibly, but far
less likely, to other tags) the value of which will be disclosed
to the consumer by a tool-tip-like pop-up when the user mouses
over the image (or whatever). "title" appears to have the desired
effect (in Seamonkey, at least)


This is exactly the right attribute, supported by many (all relevant?) 
tags and clients (browsers).



but this behaviour doesn't seem
to be mandated by the normative versions of the specification
(HTML 4.01), although it is described in the non-normative part


I won't dig into the spec right now, but I'm sure my above statement is 
correct regarding real-world use.



do others know how widely this behaviour is supported, and is
it therefore reasonably safe to rely on it ?


It is widely supported and safe to use.

I what "title" gives you doesn't suit you, I recommend some JS-based 
approach like Overlib which allows you to specify exactly how the 
tooltip should look like (using HTML and CSS) without having to bother 
about the actual implementation (cross-browser support).


HTH

Jens

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Disclose attribute on mouseover ?

[Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)]

This is really rather more of an HTML question than a Seamonkey
one, but since I use only Seamonkey for development it is clearly
important that the solution is supported by Seamonkey.  What I
am looking for is an attribute to  (and possibly, but far
less likely, to other tags) the value of which will be disclosed
to the consumer by a tool-tip-like pop-up when the user mouses
over the image (or whatever).  "title" appears to have the desired
effect (in Seamonkey, at least) but this behaviour doesn't seem
to be mandated by the normative versions of the specification
(HTML 4.01), although it is described in the non-normative part
 -- do others know how widely this behaviour is supported, and is
it therefore reasonably safe to rely on it ?

Philip Taylor
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Inbox messages gone after compacting folders

[Dawnie J Baldo]

Hi

I lost all of the emails in the inbox on one of my accounts after 
compacting the folders on that account. Is there a way to retrieve them?


Thanks!
DJ
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