Re: Re-Open previously closed sites gone from SM 2.5
Philip Chee wrote: On Thu, 01 Dec 2011 21:01:52 +1100, Daniel wrote: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686 on x86_64; rv:8.0.1) Gecko/2021 Firefox/8.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.5 In previous version (2.4.1 maybe), I thought I had the option under the Browsers File dropdown, to open previously closed pages but I've tried to do this in 2.5 and I don't get the option. Looking through the release notes, I couldn't find any mention of this function being dropped. Am I imagining things?? I tried to check the release notes for previous SM but the listing of older versions has, apparently, been dropped from the seamonkey-project.org pages, at least the 8-10 that I checked. I think I've still got SM 2.4 on my Win7 partition, so I'll give that a go tomorrow evening (if I remember) and see what happens!! It's now under the Go menu. Bug 599731 - Move Recently Closed menus to Go menu https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=599731 Bug 670513 - Recently Closed Windows/tabs have been moved to the Go menu. Document this. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=670513 Phil Thanks for this, Philip. I'm in my Win7/SM 2.4.1 today and it's still there under File. I'm updating it today, just as I updated linux/SM yesterday, so I'll then check under the Go dropdown. Thanks also to the other Philip for his suggestion. -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.5 news server password not being saved?
David H. Durgee schreef: I am seeing some strange behavior with 2.5 and news groups. Despite having previously saved the user and password for a server that requires it I keep getting prompted for the password and sometimes the username as well. When I open the password manager I see the username and password recorded for the web site (news.individual.net), but most often I do not see entries for the news server. Sometimes shutting down SeaMonkey 2.5 will clear this up, sometimes not. How can this be fixed? Dave I have had the same problems with Seamonkey 2.5 and some newsservers. I keep getting prompted for the password and the username. A News (NNTP) error occured: Authentication failed - Incorrect username/password When I try again, multiple times Sometime it sticks and entries can be found in the password manager, sometimes it does not work. Never had this with older Seamonkey versions. I have seen it before in the old Mozilla Suite. Seamonkey 2.5 is based on Thunderbird 8 (as far as I know), Seems to ba a bug. There is a threat about the same problem in the Thunderbird newsgroup: Newsgroup username/password problems 16-11-2011 http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.thunderbird/browse_thread/thread/ba37101d15a5e9f0/6505926bc5f49203?show_docid=6505926bc5f49203 Regards, Zanqeutil ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.5 news server password not being saved?
Zanqeutil wrote: David H. Durgee schreef: I am seeing some strange behavior with 2.5 and news groups. Despite having previously saved the user and password for a server that requires it I keep getting prompted for the password and sometimes the username as well. When I open the password manager I see the username and password recorded for the web site (news.individual.net), but most often I do not see entries for the news server. Sometimes shutting down SeaMonkey 2.5 will clear this up, sometimes not. How can this be fixed? Dave I have had the same problems with Seamonkey 2.5 and some newsservers. I keep getting prompted for the password and the username. A News (NNTP) error occured: Authentication failed - Incorrect username/password When I try again, multiple times Sometime it sticks and entries can be found in the password manager, sometimes it does not work. Never had this with older Seamonkey versions. I have seen it before in the old Mozilla Suite. Seamonkey 2.5 is based on Thunderbird 8 (as far as I know), Seems to ba a bug. There is a threat about the same problem in the Thunderbird newsgroup: Newsgroup username/password problems 16-11-2011 http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.thunderbird/browse_thread/thread/ba37101d15a5e9f0/6505926bc5f49203?show_docid=6505926bc5f49203 Zanqeutil I am just idly wondering if this is a timing problem. I.e. SM replies too quickly to username/password from the server, and the server doesn't get the message. Perhaps the connection and authentication protocol/conversation between SM and the server should be paced at a human interaction speed with few milliseconds of delays between the back and forth messages. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: search bookmarks ?
What appears top-right in your Manage Bookmarks window, Rostyk ? Philip Taylor Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: SM 2.5 on a Win7 Ultimate system. I tried the instructions given in Help for finding a bookmark in my saved bookmarks however I don't have a 'search bookmarks' option on the 'tools' drop down menu under manage bookmarks ??? I arrived at my SM 2.5 configuration via pushed (auto) updates from SeaMonkey org starting at about 2.1. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.5 news server password not being saved?
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Zanqeutil wrote: David H. Durgee schreef: I am seeing some strange behavior with 2.5 and news groups. Despite having previously saved the user and password for a server that requires it I keep getting prompted for the password and sometimes the username as well. When I open the password manager I see the username and password recorded for the web site (news.individual.net), but most often I do not see entries for the news server. Sometimes shutting down SeaMonkey 2.5 will clear this up, sometimes not. How can this be fixed? Dave I have had the same problems with Seamonkey 2.5 and some newsservers. I keep getting prompted for the password and the username. A News (NNTP) error occured: Authentication failed - Incorrect username/password When I try again, multiple times Sometime it sticks and entries can be found in the password manager, sometimes it does not work. Never had this with older Seamonkey versions. I have seen it before in the old Mozilla Suite. Seamonkey 2.5 is based on Thunderbird 8 (as far as I know), Seems to ba a bug. There is a threat about the same problem in the Thunderbird newsgroup: Newsgroup username/password problems 16-11-2011 http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.thunderbird/browse_thread/thread/ba37101d15a5e9f0/6505926bc5f49203?show_docid=6505926bc5f49203 Zanqeutil I am just idly wondering if this is a timing problem. I.e. SM replies too quickly to username/password from the server, and the server doesn't get the message. Perhaps the connection and authentication protocol/conversation between SM and the server should be paced at a human interaction speed with few milliseconds of delays between the back and forth messages. Perhaps that is part of it, but I think there is more to it. Things are working now after closing out and restarting. I have the password manager open to the news.individual.net and it shows two entries for the news server, one with the username and one with the password in addition to a single entry for userid/password on the web site. When the problem is occurring the two news server entries disappear from the password manager. Perhaps they are being removed after an authentication failure from the server. Perhaps they are being removed for some reason and causing the authentication failure. Dave ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: search bookmarks ?
On 12/02/2011 09:27 AM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: SM 2.5 on a Win7 Ultimate system. I tried the instructions given in Help for finding a bookmark in my saved bookmarks however I don't have a 'search bookmarks' option on the 'tools' drop down menu under manage bookmarks ??? I arrived at my SM 2.5 configuration via pushed (auto) updates from SeaMonkey org starting at about 2.1. Bookmarks Manage Bookmarks, the Search Bookmarks bar is at the far right -- Daily | openSUSE 11.4(x86_64) | Gnome 2.32.1 | 1.8GHz CPU | 2GB RAM Get openSUSE: http://software.opensuse.org/121/en Firefox Support: http://support.mozilla.com Profile Manager: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Profile_Manager ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.5 news server password not being saved?
David H. Durgee schreef: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Zanqeutil wrote: David H. Durgee schreef: I am seeing some strange behavior with 2.5 and news groups. Despite having previously saved the user and password for a server that requires it I keep getting prompted for the password and sometimes the username as well. When I open the password manager I see the username and password recorded for the web site (news.individual.net), but most often I do not see entries for the news server. Sometimes shutting down SeaMonkey 2.5 will clear this up, sometimes not. How can this be fixed? Dave I have had the same problems with Seamonkey 2.5 and some newsservers. I keep getting prompted for the password and the username. A News (NNTP) error occured: Authentication failed - Incorrect username/password When I try again, multiple times Sometime it sticks and entries can be found in the password manager, sometimes it does not work. Never had this with older Seamonkey versions. I have seen it before in the old Mozilla Suite. Seamonkey 2.5 is based on Thunderbird 8 (as far as I know), Seems to ba a bug. There is a threat about the same problem in the Thunderbird newsgroup: Newsgroup username/password problems 16-11-2011 http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.thunderbird/browse_thread/thread/ba37101d15a5e9f0/6505926bc5f49203?show_docid=6505926bc5f49203 Zanqeutil I am just idly wondering if this is a timing problem. I.e. SM replies too quickly to username/password from the server, and the server doesn't get the message. Perhaps the connection and authentication protocol/conversation between SM and the server should be paced at a human interaction speed with few milliseconds of delays between the back and forth messages. Perhaps that is part of it, but I think there is more to it. Things are working now after closing out and restarting. I have the password manager open to the news.individual.net and it shows two entries for the news server, one with the username and one with the password in addition to a single entry for userid/password on the web site. When the problem is occurring the two news server entries disappear from the password manager. Perhaps they are being removed after an authentication failure from the server. Perhaps they are being removed for some reason and causing the authentication failure. Dave Yes I noticed the same missing entries in the password mager after an authentication failure. I had these problems after the upgrade from SM 2.41 to SM 2.5. It lasted a couple of days. Newsservers: (both require authentication) news.eternal-september.org news-ziggo.nl Other newsservers without authentication like news.mozilla.org and nntp.aioe.org work fine. And no problems with the e-mail server. I did not have any problems in the last few days. So we will see. Regards, Zanqeutil ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.5 news server password not being saved?
Zanqeutil: Other newsservers without authentication like news.mozilla.org and nntp.aioe.org work fine. And no problems with the e-mail server. I did not have any problems in the last few days. So we will see. It just happened again on my SM 2.8a1. As usually i cured it by replacing the signons.sqlite from a backup. First i encountered this issue with SM 2.7a1 at the time when i decided to use Nighlys again after a long time of refusal. I reported it to a German news group on 5.10.2011 and was told, that it happened for some weeks to some others. Not all. Not often and in no way reproducible so filing a bug would not help. After repairing now with the help of a backup i assume that i will not be bothered until tomorrow or later. Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: search bookmarks ?
WLS wrote: On 12/02/2011 09:27 AM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: SM 2.5 on a Win7 Ultimate system. I tried the instructions given in Help for finding a bookmark in my saved bookmarks however I don't have a 'search bookmarks' option on the 'tools' drop down menu under manage bookmarks ??? I arrived at my SM 2.5 configuration via pushed (auto) updates from SeaMonkey org starting at about 2.1. Bookmarks Manage Bookmarks, the Search Bookmarks bar is at the far right And Philip TAYLOR wrote: What appears top-right in your Manage Bookmarks window, Rostyk ? I have an unlabeled (except for the little magnifying glass icon/glyph) input box. But that is not what is described in the 'Help' manual when I search for 'searching bookmarks' which is: == To search the bookmarks list: 1. Open the Bookmarks menu and choose Manage Bookmarks. 2. In your Bookmarks window, open the Tools menu and choose Search Bookmarks. You see the Find Bookmarks dialog box. 3. In the drop-down lists, choose options to define your search, and then click Find. Bookmarks that match your search criteria are displayed. Choose from the following Search options: Choose contains, starts with, or ends with if you know only part of the word or phrase for which you're searching. Choose is if you know exactly what you're searching for. Choose is not or doesn't contain to exclude pages. Click the fill-in field and type all or part of name or URL (web address) for the bookmarks or history listings that you want to find or exclude. Select Save query in bookmarks to save this search for later use. 4. Double-click a bookmark in the list to go to that page. = 2. doesn't have a 'Search Bookmarks' menu choice, and of course there isn't a Find Bookmarks dialog box. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: search bookmarks ?
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: WLS wrote: On 12/02/2011 09:27 AM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: SM 2.5 on a Win7 Ultimate system. I tried the instructions given in Help for finding a bookmark in my saved bookmarks however I don't have a 'search bookmarks' option on the 'tools' drop down menu under manage bookmarks ??? I arrived at my SM 2.5 configuration via pushed (auto) updates from SeaMonkey org starting at about 2.1. Bookmarks Manage Bookmarks, the Search Bookmarks bar is at the far right And Philip TAYLOR wrote: What appears top-right in your Manage Bookmarks window, Rostyk ? I have an unlabeled (except for the little magnifying glass icon/glyph) input box. But that is not what is described in the 'Help' manual when I search for 'searching bookmarks' which is: == To search the bookmarks list: 1. Open the Bookmarks menu and choose Manage Bookmarks. 2. In your Bookmarks window, open the Tools menu and choose Search Bookmarks. You see the Find Bookmarks dialog box. 3. In the drop-down lists, choose options to define your search, and then click Find. Bookmarks that match your search criteria are displayed. Choose from the following Search options: Choose contains, starts with, or ends with if you know only part of the word or phrase for which you're searching. Choose is if you know exactly what you're searching for. Choose is not or doesn't contain to exclude pages. Click the fill-in field and type all or part of name or URL (web address) for the bookmarks or history listings that you want to find or exclude. Select Save query in bookmarks to save this search for later use. 4. Double-click a bookmark in the list to go to that page. = 2. doesn't have a 'Search Bookmarks' menu choice, and of course there isn't a Find Bookmarks dialog box. Yes, your experience is like mine. The documentation must be describing some previous version of SM. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: search bookmarks ?
On 12/2/11 6:27 AM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: SM 2.5 on a Win7 Ultimate system. I tried the instructions given in Help for finding a bookmark in my saved bookmarks however I don't have a 'search bookmarks' option on the 'tools' drop down menu under manage bookmarks ??? I arrived at my SM 2.5 configuration via pushed (auto) updates from SeaMonkey org starting at about 2.1. Bug reports: Adjust help for changes with places bookmarks landing -- https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=557504 Bookmarks Manager Menubar Contains Non-Applicable Items -- https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=707214 Bookmarks Manager Menubar Lacks Find Option -- https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=707216 -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: search bookmarks ?
David E. Ross wrote: On 12/2/11 6:27 AM, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: SM 2.5 on a Win7 Ultimate system. I tried the instructions given in Help for finding a bookmark in my saved bookmarks however I don't have a 'search bookmarks' option on the 'tools' drop down menu under manage bookmarks ??? I arrived at my SM 2.5 configuration via pushed (auto) updates from SeaMonkey org starting at about 2.1. Bug reports: Adjust help for changes with places bookmarks landing -- https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=557504 Bookmarks Manager Menubar Contains Non-Applicable Items -- https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=707214 Bookmarks Manager Menubar Lacks Find Option -- https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=707216 Thank you for filing bugs 707214 707216. I read all three entries. But as I'm not versed in Bugzilla, I didn't really make much sense out of 557504. I am now confused whether SM Help is more correct, and the code is just full of errors, or the code is more correct the ability to search for a bookmark has been (re)moved to the 'search?' box is the upper right hand corner? Where is the bookmarks facility and its features et.c. described? -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.5 news server password not being saved?
Hartmut Figge schreef: Zanqeutil: Other newsservers without authentication like news.mozilla.org and nntp.aioe.org work fine. And no problems with the e-mail server. I did not have any problems in the last few days. So we will see. It just happened again on my SM 2.8a1. As usually i cured it by replacing the signons.sqlite from a backup. First i encountered this issue with SM 2.7a1 at the time when i decided to use Nighlys again after a long time of refusal. I reported it to a German news group on 5.10.2011 and was told, that it happened for some weeks to some others. Not all. Not often and in no way reproducible so filing a bug would not help. After repairing now with the help of a backup i assume that i will not be bothered until tomorrow or later. Hartmut Hi Hartmut. It's always good to have a recent backup of the SM profile folder. Question about replacing the signons.sqlite from a backup. I don't use a master password, so in case if it happens again, there is probably no need to replace the key3.db file as well, only the signons.sqlite file. Another strange thing. After updating to SM 2.5 I could not login to ethernal-september. I tried to enter my username and password, no succes. Then I tried again (multiple times) now with succes, username and password were again stored in the password manager, but all the headers for the subscribed newsgroups showed up as unread. Strange.. Regards, Zanqeutil ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: search bookmarks ?
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: I am now confused whether SM Help is more correct, and the code is just full of errors, or the code is more correct the ability to search for a bookmark has been (re)moved to the 'search?' box is the upper right hand corner? Help is outdated in many ways. Bookmarks is just one area where many changes happened where the documentation is yet to be updated. Where is the bookmarks facility and its features et.c. described? I guess your best bet there would be SUMO (support.mozilla.org), i.e. the Firefox documentation site. To my knowledge, there is no up-to-date documentation for SM regarding Bookmarks. HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.5 news server password not being saved?
Zanqeutil: It's always good to have a recent backup of the SM profile folder. Especially when using Nightlys. *g* Question about replacing the signons.sqlite from a backup. I don't use a master password, I don't use a master password either. so in case if it happens again, there is probably no need to replace the key3.db file as well, only the signons.sqlite file. Replacing the signons.sqlite was always enough for me. Another strange thing. After updating to SM 2.5 I could not login to ethernal-september. I tried to enter my username and password, no succes. Then I tried again (multiple times) now with succes, username and password were again stored in the password manager, but all the headers for the subscribed newsgroups showed up as unread. Strange.. Strange, but not unusual when this bug bites. Often two or three of my NGs are unread in this case and a correlation seems obvious. Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: search bookmarks ?
On 12/2/11 1:08 PM, Jens Hatlak wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: I am now confused whether SM Help is more correct, and the code is just full of errors, or the code is more correct the ability to search for a bookmark has been (re)moved to the 'search?' box is the upper right hand corner? Help is outdated in many ways. Bookmarks is just one area where many changes happened where the documentation is yet to be updated. Where is the bookmarks facility and its features et.c. described? I guess your best bet there would be SUMO (support.mozilla.org), i.e. the Firefox documentation site. To my knowledge, there is no up-to-date documentation for SM regarding Bookmarks. I've had some experience in writing user documents. Since I much prefer SeaMonkey's help capability -- embedded in the application -- over relying on Web-based help, I would like to volunteer to work on this. How can I get involved? -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.5 - address dragging
On Thu, 01 Dec 2011 21:04:39 +0100, Jens Hatlak j...@junetz.de wrote: JohnW-Mpls wrote: I just now experienced what someone mentioned in here a few days ago - in SM2.5's address books section, the dragging of addresses from one book or location to another is not functioning. If you can still reproduce this, please check the following: 1. whether anything gets added in the Error Console (Tools/Web Development) when you do this 2. whether the problem happens in Safe Mode (Help/Restart with Add-ons Disabled), i.e. without add-ons that could be interfering. Greetings, Jens Oh my - now it is working. I do not have any idea why it works now and did not the other day. Sorry I cannot run your tests but I'm happy it works. -- JohnW-Mpls ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: search bookmarks ?
David E. Ross wrote: I've had some experience in writing user documents. Since I much prefer SeaMonkey's help capability -- embedded in the application -- over relying on Web-based help, I would like to volunteer to work on this. How can I get involved? Ideally you would set up a build environment, as explained here: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Simple_SeaMonkey_build (Linux should be easiest to set up on). This way you can check whether the modifications you make work out correctly. If this is not manageable for you, an intermediate solution would be to only get the SeaMonkey sources (basically hg clone http://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/; after installing mercurial on Linux or MozillaBuild on Windows) so that you can provide patches against the sources from which Help is built. The minimum effort, which would however require heavy assistance from SeaMonkey developers in order to make it into the final product, would be to only contribute texts (like put this here, replace that there). In any case you'll need a SeaMonkey trunk (nightly) build for testing plus a (free) Bugzilla account. Then select the bug(s) you want to work on. Query for starters: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=%3Aseamonkey%20%3Ahelp Anything else, like how to create and maintain patches, get reviews etc., or even how to build SM, can be discussed later. For these types of discussions, feel free to join the m.d.a.seamonkey newsgroup and ask questions as needed. HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Seamonkey: email issues
Dear Sir: I have just begun using Seamonkey mail feature for about two weeks. I have not been able to figure out how to change setting for: 1) the reply to include the datestamp from sender. At this time, when I click reply, the quoted text begins with: Name of sender wrote: quoting original text In other email clients, such as Thunderbird, or Outlook, Novel GroupWise, the default is: On Sun, Nov 27, at 6:00 PM, Name of the sender wrote: quoting original text 2) to be able to copy email addresses on the view page. So far, in order to copy address of multiple recipients from a different account, I have to click on Reply all, followed by clicking on Address, then copy the addresses appear on the right pane of Address message to:. Is there an easier way to copy and paste multiple addresses from an email? Please advise. Thank you. Jackie ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Tricking sites into thinking SeaMonkey is Firefox
Did we ever come up with a sure way of tricking sites into thinking we are using Firefox? I need to switch banks and it appears they only accept the browsers on their list. Stan ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Tricking sites into thinking SeaMonkey is Firefox
Stan wrote: Did we ever come up with a sure way of tricking sites into thinking we are using Firefox? I need to switch banks and it appears they only accept the browsers on their list. The largest way sites do this checking works out of the box with SeaMonkey 2.5 (and a few other versions), but we do have a pref for it. Fwiw you're current version does have this feature enabled, so if it doesn't work with your new bank, there is a stronger issue with the way it does this checking: (Your UA string, for the record: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; WOW64; rv:8.0.1) Gecko/2021 Firefox/8.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.5 ) -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: search bookmarks ?
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 23:52:25 +0100, Jens Hatlak wrote: David E. Ross wrote: I've had some experience in writing user documents. Since I much prefer SeaMonkey's help capability -- embedded in the application -- over relying on Web-based help, I would like to volunteer to work on this. How can I get involved? Ideally you would set up a build environment, as explained here: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Simple_SeaMonkey_build (Linux should be easiest to set up on). This way you can check whether the modifications you make work out correctly. If this is not manageable for you, an intermediate solution would be to only get the SeaMonkey sources (basically hg clone http://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/; after installing mercurial on Linux or MozillaBuild on Windows) so that you can provide patches against the sources from which Help is built. The minimum effort, which would however require heavy assistance from SeaMonkey developers in order to make it into the final product, would be to only contribute texts (like put this here, replace that there). In any case you'll need a SeaMonkey trunk (nightly) build for testing plus a (free) Bugzilla account. Then select the bug(s) you want to work on. Query for starters: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=%3Aseamonkey%20%3Ahelp Anything else, like how to create and maintain patches, get reviews etc., or even how to build SM, can be discussed later. For these types of discussions, feel free to join the m.d.a.seamonkey newsgroup and ask questions as needed. It also helps if you have written user documentation in (X)HTML, and/or have written a few (very basic) html web pages. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.5 news server password not being saved?
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 09:31:31 -0500, David H. Durgee wrote: Perhaps that is part of it, but I think there is more to it. Things are working now after closing out and restarting. I have the password manager open to the news.individual.net and it shows two entries for the news server, one with the username and one with the password in addition to a single entry for userid/password on the web site. When the problem is occurring the two news server entries disappear from the password manager. Perhaps they are being removed after an authentication failure from the server. Perhaps they are being removed for some reason and causing the authentication failure. There was a bug. The news server software would delete password entries in the password manager if it failed to log in to the NNTP server too many times. *Any* sufficient number of failures would cause this including poor connections, long delays, etc. This bug has been fixed in sufficiently new versions of Thunderbird/SeaMonkey. Now *Only* authentication failures are counted. Any other types of failures including connection problems do not count. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Tricking sites into thinking SeaMonkey is Firefox
On 12/2/11 4:26 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: Stan wrote: Did we ever come up with a sure way of tricking sites into thinking we are using Firefox? I need to switch banks and it appears they only accept the browsers on their list. The largest way sites do this checking works out of the box with SeaMonkey 2.5 (and a few other versions), but we do have a pref for it. Fwiw you're current version does have this feature enabled, so if it doesn't work with your new bank, there is a stronger issue with the way it does this checking: (Your UA string, for the record: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; WOW64; rv:8.0.1) Gecko/2021 Firefox/8.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.5 ) One bank where I had an account rejected the Advertise Firefox feature. It was sniffing for Firefox without any other text strings. Thus, the UA string Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:8.0.1) Gecko/2021 Firefox/8.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.5 was unacceptable since the UA string also included SeaMonkey. At the beginning of 2011, that bank was bought by another. The accounts and Web accesses to them were finally merged a month ago. The new bank now accepts the UA string Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:8.0.1) Gecko/2021 SeaMonkey/2.5 without any need to spoof Firefox. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: search bookmarks ?
On 12/2/11 6:39 PM, Philip Chee wrote: On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 23:52:25 +0100, Jens Hatlak wrote: David E. Ross wrote: I've had some experience in writing user documents. Since I much prefer SeaMonkey's help capability -- embedded in the application -- over relying on Web-based help, I would like to volunteer to work on this. How can I get involved? Ideally you would set up a build environment, as explained here: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Simple_SeaMonkey_build (Linux should be easiest to set up on). This way you can check whether the modifications you make work out correctly. If this is not manageable for you, an intermediate solution would be to only get the SeaMonkey sources (basically hg clone http://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/; after installing mercurial on Linux or MozillaBuild on Windows) so that you can provide patches against the sources from which Help is built. The minimum effort, which would however require heavy assistance from SeaMonkey developers in order to make it into the final product, would be to only contribute texts (like put this here, replace that there). In any case you'll need a SeaMonkey trunk (nightly) build for testing plus a (free) Bugzilla account. Then select the bug(s) you want to work on. Query for starters: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=%3Aseamonkey%20%3Ahelp Anything else, like how to create and maintain patches, get reviews etc., or even how to build SM, can be discussed later. For these types of discussions, feel free to join the m.d.a.seamonkey newsgroup and ask questions as needed. It also helps if you have written user documentation in (X)HTML, and/or have written a few (very basic) html web pages. Phil I've done many basic Web pages, but I've never done user documentation in HTML or XHTML. All this seems like a lot of work. Work is something I've tried to avoid since I retired 8 years ago. So I think I'll pass. If a developer is willing to take help text from me and go through the hoops, however, I'll still be interested in working on this. I'm even willing to format the help text in HTML. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/. Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.5 news server password not being saved?
Philip Chee: There was a bug. The news server software would delete password entries in the password manager if it failed to log in to the NNTP server too many times. *Any* sufficient number of failures would cause this including poor connections, long delays, etc. This bug has been fixed in sufficiently new versions of Thunderbird/SeaMonkey. It would be interesting to know the bug number. Now *Only* authentication failures are counted. Any other types of failures including connection problems do not count. How many failures are necessary before deleting password entries? And will the counter be reset to zero after a successful connection following some failures? Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: search bookmarks ?
On 03/12/2011 11:43, David E. Ross wrote: If a developer is willing to take help text from me and go through the hoops, however, I'll still be interested in working on this. I'm even willing to format the help text in HTML. File a bug under Product: SeaMonkey, Component: Help. Attach your help text as an attachment. The bookmarks help starts around here: http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/suite/locales/en-US/chrome/common/help/customize_help.xhtml#39 The raw file suitable for download is here: http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/suite/locales/en-US/chrome/common/help/customize_help.xhtml?raw=1 *All* our help files are somewhere in here: http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/suite/locales/en-US/chrome/common/help/ Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
