Re: Is the Yahoo smtp Mail problem Fixed

2012-03-11 Thread David E. Ross
On 3/11/12 9:54 PM, question wrote:
> Is The Yahoo sending of Email Fixed in Thunderbird/Seamonkey With out 
> Hacking Those Clients ?
>   Can't Tell because I hacked mine .

It does not have to be fixed in TBird or SeaMonkey.  It has to be fixed
in Yahoo.

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Is the Yahoo smtp Mail problem Fixed

2012-03-11 Thread question
Is The Yahoo sending of Email Fixed in Thunderbird/Seamonkey With out 
Hacking Those Clients ?

 Can't Tell because I hacked mine .
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Re: NOTE concerning all kinds of browser e-mail "accounts"

2012-03-11 Thread question

robertb...@localnet.com wrote:

Quoting Paul :


robertb...@localnet.com wrote:

___
Just let all of the virii, trojans, rootkits, and malwareEXEs trod
right into the barn and poop the hay out of everything.
Have fun.
It is not easy discovering a rootkit invasion, much less ripping it
out without destroying valuable data and valuable programs.
Been there, done that.
Changed my modus operandi and never looked back; no problems since then.

Perhaps i can recommend something far worse...OE!


Web mail is good when traveling. Thats about it.
I've been online in some form or fashion since 1977.
My computer got a virus once back in 1991 from a floppy.
Have never gotten another one.
I don't have any active scanners, blockers, etc.
I have often wondered how you all get all these nasty things?
___


But i no longer get them; the worst i see are Nigerian scam knock-offs
in my spambox "competing" with Chinese manufacturers wanting business.
And i do NOT read them.
I look in my spambox for false negatives,which i see on rare occasion -
some of those i rescue.




 I don't even get Those .
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Re: NOTE concerning all kinds of browser e-mail "accounts"

2012-03-11 Thread question

Paul wrote:

robertb...@localnet.com wrote:

___
Just let all of the virii, trojans, rootkits, and malwareEXEs trod
right into the barn and poop the hay out of everything.
Have fun.
It is not easy discovering a rootkit invasion, much less ripping it
out without destroying valuable data and valuable programs.
Been there, done that.
Changed my modus operandi and never looked back; no problems since then.

Perhaps i can recommend something far worse...OE!


Web mail is good when traveling. Thats about it.
I've been online in some form or fashion since 1977.
My computer got a virus once back in 1991 from a floppy.
Have never gotten another one.
I don't have any active scanners, blockers, etc.
I have often wondered how you all get all these nasty things?

AMEN !!!
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Re: NOTE concerning all kinds of browser e-mail "accounts"

2012-03-11 Thread GerardJan

robertb...@localnet.com wrote:

Quoting Paul :


robertb...@localnet.com wrote:

___
Just let all of the virii, trojans, rootkits, and malwareEXEs trod
right into the barn and poop the hay out of everything.
Have fun.
It is not easy discovering a rootkit invasion, much less ripping it
out without destroying valuable data and valuable programs.
Been there, done that.
Changed my modus operandi and never looked back; no problems since then.

Perhaps i can recommend something far worse...OE!


Web mail is good when traveling. Thats about it.
I've been online in some form or fashion since 1977.
My computer got a virus once back in 1991 from a floppy.
Have never gotten another one.
I don't have any active scanners, blockers, etc.
I have often wondered how you all get all these nasty things?
___


But i no longer get them; the worst i see are Nigerian scam knock-offs
in my spambox "competing" with Chinese manufacturers wanting business.
And i do NOT read them.
I look in my spambox for false negatives,which i see on rare occasion -
some of those i rescue.




oh John Bender Samuels
oh David Bendor Samuels
oh Karl Franklin
oh David Wilkinson

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Re: NOTE concerning all kinds of browser e-mail "accounts"

2012-03-11 Thread robertbaer

Quoting Paul :


robertb...@localnet.com wrote:

___
 Just let all of the virii, trojans, rootkits, and malwareEXEs trod 
right into the barn and poop the hay out of everything.

 Have fun.
 It is not easy discovering a rootkit invasion, much less ripping it 
out without destroying valuable data and valuable programs.

 Been there, done that.
 Changed my modus operandi and never looked back; no problems since then.

 Perhaps i can recommend something far worse...OE!


Web mail is good when traveling.  Thats about it.
I've been online in some form or fashion since 1977.
My computer got a virus once back in 1991 from a floppy.
Have never gotten another one.
I don't have any active scanners, blockers, etc.
I have often wondered how you all get all these nasty things?
___


 But i no longer get them; the worst i see are Nigerian scam 
knock-offs in my spambox "competing" with Chinese manufacturers wanting 
business.

 And i do NOT read them.
 I look in my spambox for false negatives,which i see on rare occasion 
- some of those i rescue.




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Re: NOTE concerning all kinds of browser e-mail "accounts"

2012-03-11 Thread Paul

robertb...@localnet.com wrote:

___
 Just let all of the virii, trojans, rootkits, and malwareEXEs trod 
right into the barn and poop the hay out of everything.

 Have fun.
 It is not easy discovering a rootkit invasion, much less ripping it out 
without destroying valuable data and valuable programs.

 Been there, done that.
 Changed my modus operandi and never looked back; no problems since then.

 Perhaps i can recommend something far worse...OE!


Web mail is good when traveling.  Thats about it.
I've been online in some form or fashion since 1977.
My computer got a virus once back in 1991 from a floppy.
Have never gotten another one.
I don't have any active scanners, blockers, etc.
I have often wondered how you all get all these nasty things?
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Re: NOTE concerning all kinds of browser e-mail "accounts"

2012-03-11 Thread question

robertb...@localnet.com wrote:

Quoting question :


Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

robertbaer wrote:


I have been noticing a lot of traffic concerning e-mail regarding
sending, receiving, etc.
There is a simple solution that avoids browser-related e-mail
"clients" and solves all of the issues.
The solution is radical: do NOT use them in any way, shape, size,
form or color!
Instead use WEBMAIL; it seems that most (maybe all?) ISPs offer
web-mail to / for their customers.


What about those of us who appreciate all the extra features of an email
client? What about those who hate webmail?

How would you suggest I handle my seventeen email addresses from five
different servers?


Consider: all e-mail travels via their server, they deal with virus
and other malware issues before you even know there is an e-mail with
issues.


That's false. Email you receive in SeaMonkey or other clients has
already
been through that server. Why didn't it strip the virus?


If you can configure their webmail for all ASCII or mostly ASCII (ie:
NO HTML, NO JAVA, in short no Swiss cheese) then you have virtual
protection on par with any "firewall".


So is that. You're also confusing Java with JavaScript. The two are
unrelated, sharing only the first four letters of their names.


And I like my Email On my Computer and Not on Some Website .
___

Just let all of the virii, trojans, rootkits, and malwareEXEs trod right
into the barn and poop the hay out of everything.
Have fun.
It is not easy discovering a rootkit invasion, much less ripping it out
without destroying valuable data and valuable programs.
Been there, done that.
Changed my modus operandi and never looked back; no problems since then.

Perhaps i can recommend something far worse...OE!



My Mcafee Takes care of any virus... The last Virus it Detected Was 
somewhere around 1997.


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Re: NOTE concerning all kinds of browser e-mail "accounts"

2012-03-11 Thread robertbaer

Quoting question :


Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

robertbaer wrote:


  I have been noticing a lot of traffic concerning e-mail regarding
sending, receiving, etc.
   There is a simple solution that avoids browser-related e-mail
"clients" and solves all of the issues.
   The solution is radical: do NOT use them in any way, shape, size,
form or color!
   Instead use WEBMAIL; it seems that most (maybe all?) ISPs offer
web-mail to / for their customers.


What about those of us who appreciate all the extra features of an email
client? What about those who hate webmail?

How would you suggest I handle my seventeen email addresses from five
different servers?


   Consider: all e-mail travels via their server, they deal with virus
and other malware issues before you even know there is an e-mail with
issues.


That's false. Email you receive in SeaMonkey or other clients has already
been through that server. Why didn't it strip the virus?


   If you can configure their webmail for all ASCII or mostly ASCII (ie:
NO HTML, NO JAVA, in short no Swiss cheese) then you have virtual
protection on par with any "firewall".


So is that.  You're also confusing Java with JavaScript. The two are
unrelated, sharing only the first four letters of their names.


And I like my Email On my Computer and Not on Some Website .
___
 Just let all of the virii, trojans, rootkits, and malwareEXEs trod 
right into the barn and poop the hay out of everything.

 Have fun.
 It is not easy discovering a rootkit invasion, much less ripping it 
out without destroying valuable data and valuable programs.

 Been there, done that.
 Changed my modus operandi and never looked back; no problems since then.

 Perhaps i can recommend something far worse...OE!



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Re: NOTE concerning all kinds of browser e-mail "accounts"

2012-03-11 Thread question

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

robertbaer wrote:


  I have been noticing a lot of traffic concerning e-mail regarding
sending, receiving, etc.
   There is a simple solution that avoids browser-related e-mail
"clients" and solves all of the issues.
   The solution is radical: do NOT use them in any way, shape, size,
form or color!
   Instead use WEBMAIL; it seems that most (maybe all?) ISPs offer
web-mail to / for their customers.


What about those of us who appreciate all the extra features of an email
client? What about those who hate webmail?

How would you suggest I handle my seventeen email addresses from five
different servers?


   Consider: all e-mail travels via their server, they deal with virus
and other malware issues before you even know there is an e-mail with
issues.


That's false. Email you receive in SeaMonkey or other clients has already
been through that server. Why didn't it strip the virus?


   If you can configure their webmail for all ASCII or mostly ASCII (ie:
NO HTML, NO JAVA, in short no Swiss cheese) then you have virtual
protection on par with any "firewall".


So is that.  You're also confusing Java with JavaScript. The two are
unrelated, sharing only the first four letters of their names.


And I like my Email On my Computer and Not on Some Website .
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Re: NOTE concerning all kinds of browser e-mail "accounts"

2012-03-11 Thread robertbaer

Quoting "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" :


robertbaer wrote:


 I have been noticing a lot of traffic concerning e-mail regarding
sending, receiving, etc.
  There is a simple solution that avoids browser-related e-mail
"clients" and solves all of the issues.
  The solution is radical: do NOT use them in any way, shape, size,
form or color!
  Instead use WEBMAIL; it seems that most (maybe all?) ISPs offer
web-mail to / for their customers.


What about those of us who appreciate all the extra features of an email
client? What about those who hate webmail?

How would you suggest I handle my seventeen email addresses from five
different servers?


  Consider: all e-mail travels via their server, they deal with virus
and other malware issues before you even know there is an e-mail with
issues.


That's false. Email you receive in SeaMonkey or other clients has already
been through that server. Why didn't it strip the virus?
* Methinks those servers are acting more like relays and just blindly 
pass the baton on - dirt and fungus still attached.





  If you can configure their webmail for all ASCII or mostly ASCII (ie:
NO HTML, NO JAVA, in short no Swiss cheese) then you have virtual
protection on par with any "firewall".


So is that.  You're also confusing Java with JavaScript. The two are
unrelated, sharing only the first four letters of their names.
* Picky; you darn well know what i mean - NO running of internal 
scripts,  which BTW includes VB scripts..




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Re: Bookmarks pull-down

2012-03-11 Thread robertbaer

Quoting Lucas Levrel :


Le 10 mars 2012, robertb...@localnet.com a écrit :

Quoting Lucas Levrel :

userChrome.css,

I find no such file, or even one with a crudely similar name (using SM7.2).


It's not there by default. On older versions you had 
userChrome-example.css and userContent-example.css in a chrome/ 
folder in your profile.


Maybe could you try posting to mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey?

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 Oh, this is peachy (NOT)!  The file userChrome-example.css names / 
suggests changes in userChrome.css, and the file 
userContent-example.css names / suggests changes in userContent.css and 
neither one of them exists anywhere on the hard drive.
 And the hard drive has three copies of SeaMonkey (1.1.16 for Win98SE 
and Win2k, and 2.7 for Win2K).

 Go figgure..


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Re: NOTE concerning all kinds of browser e-mail "accounts"

2012-03-11 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
robertbaer wrote:

>  I have been noticing a lot of traffic concerning e-mail regarding
> sending, receiving, etc.
>   There is a simple solution that avoids browser-related e-mail
> "clients" and solves all of the issues.
>   The solution is radical: do NOT use them in any way, shape, size,
> form or color!
>   Instead use WEBMAIL; it seems that most (maybe all?) ISPs offer
> web-mail to / for their customers.

What about those of us who appreciate all the extra features of an email 
client? What about those who hate webmail?

How would you suggest I handle my seventeen email addresses from five 
different servers?

>   Consider: all e-mail travels via their server, they deal with virus
> and other malware issues before you even know there is an e-mail with
> issues.

That's false. Email you receive in SeaMonkey or other clients has already 
been through that server. Why didn't it strip the virus?

>   If you can configure their webmail for all ASCII or mostly ASCII (ie:
> NO HTML, NO JAVA, in short no Swiss cheese) then you have virtual
> protection on par with any "firewall".

So is that.  You're also confusing Java with JavaScript. The two are 
unrelated, sharing only the first four letters of their names.

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Re: Bookmarks pull-down

2012-03-11 Thread robertbaer

Quoting Lucas Levrel :


Le 10 mars 2012, robertb...@localnet.com a écrit :

Quoting Lucas Levrel :

userChrome.css,

I find no such file, or even one with a crudely similar name (using SM7.2).


It's not there by default. On older versions you had 
userChrome-example.css and userContent-example.css in a chrome/ 
folder in your profile.


Maybe could you try posting to mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey?

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 STUPID me; i saw the word "example" and immediately got what seems 
the false impression that those files were actual examples and thus not 
used.

 Will look at them; thanks.


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NOTE concerning all kinds of browser e-mail "accounts"

2012-03-11 Thread robertbaer
 I have been noticing a lot of traffic concerning e-mail regarding 
sending, receiving, etc.
 There is a simple solution that avoids browser-related e-mail 
"clients" and solves all of the issues.
 The solution is radical: do NOT use them in any way, shape, size, 
form or color!
 Instead use WEBMAIL; it seems that most (maybe all?) ISPs offer 
web-mail to / for their customers.
 Consider: all e-mail travels via their server, they deal with virus 
and other malware issues before you even know there is an e-mail with 
issues.
 If you can configure their webmail for all ASCII or mostly ASCII (ie: 
NO HTML, NO JAVA, in short no Swiss cheese) then you have virtual 
protection on par with any "firewall".


 Always as before:
 Do check subject and from; if you do not recognize it then mark as 
spam and go to next incoming e-mail.

 Check headers if need as a part of your filtering.
 As before, NEVER click on a link that is in an e-mail no matter how 
legitimate it looks; FIRST verify the e-mail is legitimate by checking 
the headers.
 Mark as SPAM e-mails similar to "you have won", "congratulations", 
"business proposition", "confidential", etc and ad-nausea.



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Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing

2012-03-11 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Desiree wrote:

> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
>> Desiree wrote:
>>> Thanks. I always have email set to show all headers as a routine
>>> security measure.
>>
>> Here's a suggestion:  set your View Headers > Normal so your display,
>> and your printing, won't show all those lines, but when you want to
>> "check the security" of the email while viewing it, press Control-U to
>> view source, then when satisfied, press Control-W to close the source
>> window.
> 
> Thank you but I am a mouse person. I would never remember those keyboard
> commands. I use the keyboard for typing and try to never need it for
> anything else.

Don't you use Control-C and -V and -A and -X for text manipulation? It 
can't be difficult to remember two more.

Of course, you can always use your mouse on the menu:  View > Message 
Source - and then close the window with the mouse.

> Besides, it is a security measure and security trumps SM's problem when
> printing.  I'll just try to remember to turn off full headers if
> printing. I rarely print an email.  ...

What exactly is it that you need to see in the headers of your email? Are 
you receiving lots of email from strangers?  Do you work at a security 
company?

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Re: Subject: Re: Problem with email

2012-03-11 Thread Michael Gordon

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Philip Chee wrote:


On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 15:14:20 -0400, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Now why on Earth would ATT/Yahoo give a $#!+ about that? Are they
inspecting your message content before approving or rejecting
it???


Short answer: yes. Slightly longer answer: Their anti-spam filters
went bonkers.


Well, as someone else has pointed out, "it's time to leave." This level
of incompetence is not acceptable. I'm glad I got out years ago.



The other option is Microsoft.  Remember Microsoft was trying to buy 
into Yahoo! because Microsoft cannot write a search engine to equal Google?


Looks like they both share the same bed!

Microsoft never really went for WWW standards in anything, so why should 
they make their servers automatically shift command line arguments to 
all lower case?


Unix and Linux are case sensitive, but the Apache server accepts upper 
and lower case characters.  Try sensing a search request to Google in 
all upper case letters.


I left Yahoo many years ago when they began selling our user account 
e-mail addresses to Spammers, this is just one more strike against 
Yahoo, they've got 5 so far.


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Cell: 903.244.3644

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and inviting the world to walk through.

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Even when no one is watching...

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Re: E-mail with att

2012-03-11 Thread question

question wrote:


I did not use About: config


  I Clicked  Compose

  Then Clicked in the Body Are
Clicked on FORMAT ( Format is not Accessable till you click on the Body )
Choose page color and Background

  Then Advance  Edit

Click on BG Color

Now Change #FFto #ff
Click Ok

Now Send a Test message to yourself


It goes through




Now if You Go Back to the Above color Settings you will see that it has
Reverted Back to  #FF

But If you send a NEW e-mail It Goes Through /


I even rebooted My Computer Then sent a New Email in Html And it Goes
Through even tho it has revered back to  The #FF


 Using The Newest Version of Seamonkey .



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E-mail with att

2012-03-11 Thread question


I did not use About: config


 I Clicked  Compose

 Then Clicked in the Body Are
Clicked on FORMAT ( Format is not Accessable till you click on the Body )
Choose page color and Background

 Then Advance  Edit

Click on BG Color

Now Change #FFto #ff
Click Ok

Now Send a Test message to yourself


It goes through




Now if You Go Back to the Above color Settings you will see that it has 
Reverted Back to  #FF


But If you send a NEW e-mail It Goes Through /


I even rebooted My Computer Then sent a New Email in Html And it Goes 
Through even tho it has revered back to  The #FF



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Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing

2012-03-11 Thread Desiree

"Beauregard T. Shagnasty"  wrote in message 
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> Desiree wrote:
>
>> As for copying to Word, I won't have Word on Win 7.
>
> Good idea.  :-)
>
> If you want an office suite, perhaps you would be happy with OpenOffice
> or LibreOffice. Both are full suites like Microsoft Office, but free.
> They are also (just about) fully compatible with Word/Excel ...
>
> http://www.openoffice.org/
> http://www.libreoffice.org/

I hate OpenOffice. It is extremely buggy on XP. Maybe it works better on Win 
7. I haven't tried libreoffice. I will look at it. But all I really want is 
Word no later than 2003 version. The reason I won't have Word on Win 7 is 
because I won't use any version with the ribbon. I'll just have to use 
WordPad (or whatever it is that comes on Windows as I don't think Microsoft 
ruined it with the ribbon). I'll miss Word 2002 a lot. I beta tested Office 
2007 and hated it. Microsoft ruined Office with that horrible ribbon junk. 
I'll be immediately fixing Win7 with all the crap Microsoft put on it. I 
will use Classic Shell to get back Classic Windows look and no stupid Aero 
junk for kiddies that need eye candy.
>
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Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing

2012-03-11 Thread Desiree

"Ray_Net"  wrote in message 
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> Desiree wrote, On 11/03/2012 08:53:
>> "question"  wrote in message
>> news:l-qdnuc4vu47kshsnz2dnuvz_rqdn...@mozilla.org...
>>> Desiree wrote:
 How do I stop the printing of all the ridiculous headers that take up
 ALMOST
 ONE PAGE and are printed in BOLD TEXT thus wasting ink?

 Why does SM Mail print all that junk? Besides all the irrelevant 
 headers,
 it
 also printed ALMOST THE ENTIRE MESSAGE OF THREE PAGES in BOLD wasting
 even
 more ink!

 I just needed a record of my reservation. I didn't need all the other
 junk
 printed nor did I need any of it in bold text.  OE would never waste 
 ink
 like this or print almost an entire page of irrelevant headers.

 I removed this email address from OE long ago (and meant to completely
 kill
 it), but I never did and sometimes I get relevant mail in it. SM still
 has
 it so that is why I didn't print from OE. This is probably the first
 email I
 have ever printed from SM as I rarely need to print emails.


>>> Copy The Email and Then paste it into WORD .
>> That's a good idea. But my point is that I don't need to do that if I use
>> OE. One of the reasons I started using SM again is because it has an 
>> email
>> client and I will be getting a new computer soon with Win 7. The only way 
>> to
>> continue using OE then will be via XP inside Win 7 Professional. So, I 
>> have
>> been looking for a new email client. I would use Windows Mail reluctantly
>> because it doesn't have Identities which is the best thing about OE but
>> Windows Mail is not in Win 7 and I will NOT use any cloud junk. I've used
>> Mozilla mail before it was SM but always had OE as my default mail 
>> client.
>> As for copying to Word, I won't have Word on Win 7.
>>
>>
> I just have the words; Subject, From, Date, To  in bold.
> ALL the rest are simple pure characters wasting no INK as you said with 
> SM.
>
> Perhaps the guy who wrote the mail, put all his text in BOLD !!! SM is
> not responsible to print what he see on the screen.
> If so, please modify SM to have ALL your emails in *PLAIN-TEXT* mode !

All email in any email client has always been set to be read and composed in 
Plain Text. The email was sent in Plain Text. SeaMonkey bolds the headers 
and most of the body of the email was bolded.
> 


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Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing

2012-03-11 Thread Desiree

"Beauregard T. Shagnasty"  wrote in message 
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> Desiree wrote:
>
>> Thanks. I always have email set to show all headers as a routine
>> security measure.
>
> Here's a suggestion:  set your View Headers > Normal so your display, and
> your printing, won't show all those lines, but when you want to "check
> the security" of the email while viewing it, press Control-U to view
> source, then when satisfied, press Control-W to close the source window.

Thank you but I am a mouse person. I would never remember those keyboard 
commands. I use the keyboard for typing and try to never need it for 
anything else.

Besides, it is a security measure and security trumps SM's problem when 
printing.  I'll just try to remember to turn off full headers if printing. I 
rarely print an email. It is only because I have no way of knowing how long 
I have before this computer dies. I am just trying to wait until Dell has 
Ivy Bridge processors.

>
>> I just didn't realize it would print all of that (23
>> lines of headers). I'll have to try to remember to switch to "normal"
>> for headers before printing and then switch back to "all".
>
> It prints what is showing...
>
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>   -This space for rent, but the price is high 


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Re: ATT email problem

2012-03-11 Thread question

Lisa Wiser wrote:


Gee ... Since I spent most of the weekend having to email off this server mailer 
instead of my SeaMonkey and spent 2 wasted phone calls, as have everyone else who 
called in, why bother? I'd hazard to guess since this problem started late on 
Friday no one at ATT/Yahoo has spent much time on it over the weekend. I'm also 
betting, even though all who called have given contact information, including email 
addresses, AT&T/Yahoo won't be notifying US of the fix.



--- On Sun, 3/11/12, Jay O'Brien  wrote:

From: Jay O'Brien
Subject: Re: ATT email problem
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Date: Sunday, March 11, 2012, 4:23 PM

I changed msgcompose.background_color" line from #FF to #ff and all is 
ok, as suggested. Has anyone passed this information along to ATT/Yahoo/India or 
anyone at ATT or Yahoo who understands what is going on?

Jay
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My e-amil will Be fixed Wednesday Morning .  Thats when Comcast Takes 
Effect .


 Att Has all of its Cookies in Wireless Phone... I think They Want to 
Phase out Internet And TV and landline Phone ...

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Re: Email text (history)

2012-03-11 Thread GerardJan

davidb.weintr...@gmail.com wrote:

On Mar 26, 6:46 pm, Tony Mechelynck
wrote:

keith_w wrote:

davidb.weintr...@gmail.com wrote:

Email from various sites now has the text as an attachment with the
name attachment and no extension. Seamonkey doesn't open the
attachment inline as requested. This worked in Mozilla 1.7.x
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No evidence this message ever had an attachment. Not even a "...removed"
statement.



Of course, you may not have sent one.



keith whaley


I think he didn't, but that the meant:

"Many people send empty emails with the content as an attachment. When
that attachment is a text file with no extension, SeaMonkey fails to
display it inline."

It would indeed have been better with an example.

Best regards,
Tony.
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Experience is what you get when you were expecting something else.


his email my client received as an attachment without an extension.
This is how I received it as a forwarded message. I am removing
personal information

 Original Message 
Subject:[Fwd: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender]
Date:   Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:09:26 -0700
From:
To: David Weintraub




 Original Message 
Subject:Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
Date:   Tue, 25 Mar 2008 15:21:10 -0400
From:   Mail Delivery System
To:


This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es)
failed:

   julie_warsh...@harvard.edu
 SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT
TO::
 host netop3.harvard.edu [128.103.208.29]: 550
:
 Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table

-- This is a copy of the message, including all the headers.
--

Return-path:
Received: from [168.103.56.134] (helo=[192.168.0.2])
by elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67)
(envelope-from
id 1JeEhp-00076t-Nm; Tue, 25 Mar 2008 15:21:09 -0400
Message-ID:<47e950a1.7060...@earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:21:05 -0700
From:
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:
1.8.1.12) Gecko/20080201 SeaMonkey/1.1.8
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Julie Warshowe
CC:
Subject: Exhibit for Esther Heins
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
  boundary="050101040808070304050504"

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--050101040808070304050504
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Dear Julie,

I have polled the family and we could all be at a an opening
reception
on the following Saturdays in 2009:
   March 21 (first day of Spring)
   March 28
   April 4

I hope one of these dates can serve as the opening date of the
exhibit.
Please let me know.

Thanks for all your help.

Marilyn

--

--050101040808070304050504
Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit






Dear Julie,

I have polled the family and we could all be at a an opening reception
on the following Saturdays in 2009:
  March 21 (first day of Spring)
  March 28
  April 4

I hope one of these dates can serve as the opening date of the
exhibit.
Please let me know.

Thanks for all your help.

Marilyn

--




--050101040808070304050504--


--
David Weintraub

7528 E. Pinewood Place
Tucson, AZ 85750
520 290 5033
520-991-1482 cell




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Re: Bookmarks pull-down

2012-03-11 Thread Jens Hatlak

Lucas Levrel wrote:

Le 10 mars 2012, robertb...@localnet.com a écrit :

Quoting Lucas Levrel :

userChrome.css,

I find no such file, or even one with a crudely similar name (using
SM7.2).


It's not there by default. On older versions you had
userChrome-example.css and userContent-example.css in a chrome/ folder
in your profile.

Maybe could you try posting to mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey?


No need. Incidentally I fixed it yesterday (for 2.9 and later; too late 
for 2.8 and earlier).


HTH

Jens

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Re: ATT email problem

2012-03-11 Thread Rick Merrill

cmcadams wrote:

Jay O'Brien wrote:

The ATT problem has also affected me. However, I found that I can still send 
plain
text emails, but html emails are rejected.

Interesting.

Jay O'Brien


Likewise, EXCEPT that I was able to send a text-only HTML email to myself. 
Including
images of any sort triggers the error.


"Images!" ah, ATT is probably worried about bad guys using steganography so they put 
up a filter?



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Re: Bookmarks pull-down

2012-03-11 Thread Lucas Levrel

Le 10 mars 2012, robertb...@localnet.com a écrit :

Quoting Lucas Levrel :

userChrome.css,

I find no such file, or even one with a crudely similar name (using SM7.2).


It's not there by default. On older versions you had 
userChrome-example.css and userContent-example.css in a chrome/ folder in 
your profile.


Maybe could you try posting to mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey?

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Re: Bookmarks pull-down

2012-03-11 Thread Lucas Levrel

Le 10 mars 2012, Desiree a écrit :


Ok. I reinstated the default theme. That button/icon does look like a long
tiny bookmark now. On some tabs it is light green in color and on others it
is light gray. I didn't know what the difference in color meant but I


(I learned that in the release notes a few versions ago.)


learned that when gray that tab has not been bookmarked and, if you click on
the gray button/icon, then it turns light green to indicate that the tab
(page on that tab) is now bookmarked.  You are right, it goes into unsorted
if you bookmark this way (which I have never done until now). But if you
immediately click on the now green icon you will get Edit Bookmark window
right under the icon.


You've taught me something!


The reason the bookmark window was way over at the right edge of the screen
was because I used to have the search bar hidden. That made the address bar
very long and that thin bookmark icon is at the end of the address bar.


On my SM 2.6.1 under Win XP, the "cramped" window is *right* aligned to 
the bookmark icon, so it doesn't get offscreen (I have no search bar 
either, only the Print and throbber icons). Strange.



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Re: ATT email problem

2012-03-11 Thread Lisa Wiser

I suppose I shouldn't have been so flip.

To me this isn't a "fix" it's a "work around." The problem is on AT&T/Yahoo's 
end. And there are probably a number of people who have not come to the Mozilla 
group because they wouldn't be comfortable making a change like this.

Also, if AT&T/Yahoo have to spend time fixing this, next time just maybe when 
they put in some "fix," they'll test with the Mozillas as well as IE, Chrome 
and whatever.


Lisa 

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Lisa Wiser 
Sender: support-seamonkey-bounces+lawiser=att@lists.mozilla.org
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 13:55:41 
To: 
Subject: Re: ATT email problem


Gee ... Since I spent most of the weekend having to email off this server 
mailer instead of my SeaMonkey and spent 2 wasted phone calls, as have everyone 
else who called in, why bother? I'd hazard to guess since this problem started 
late on Friday no one at ATT/Yahoo has spent much time on it over the weekend. 
I'm also betting, even though all who called have given contact information, 
including email addresses, AT&T/Yahoo won't be notifying US of the fix.



--- On Sun, 3/11/12, Jay O'Brien  wrote:

From: Jay O'Brien 
Subject: Re: ATT email problem
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Date: Sunday, March 11, 2012, 4:23 PM

I changed msgcompose.background_color" line from #FF to #ff and all is 
ok, as suggested. Has anyone passed this information along to ATT/Yahoo/India 
or anyone at ATT or Yahoo who understands what is going on?

Jay 
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Re: ATT email problem

2012-03-11 Thread Lisa Wiser

Gee ... Since I spent most of the weekend having to email off this server 
mailer instead of my SeaMonkey and spent 2 wasted phone calls, as have everyone 
else who called in, why bother? I'd hazard to guess since this problem started 
late on Friday no one at ATT/Yahoo has spent much time on it over the weekend. 
I'm also betting, even though all who called have given contact information, 
including email addresses, AT&T/Yahoo won't be notifying US of the fix.



--- On Sun, 3/11/12, Jay O'Brien  wrote:

From: Jay O'Brien 
Subject: Re: ATT email problem
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Date: Sunday, March 11, 2012, 4:23 PM

I changed msgcompose.background_color" line from #FF to #ff and all is 
ok, as suggested. Has anyone passed this information along to ATT/Yahoo/India 
or anyone at ATT or Yahoo who understands what is going on?

Jay 
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Re: ATT email problem

2012-03-11 Thread Jay O'Brien
I changed msgcompose.background_color" line from #FF to #ff and all is 
ok, as suggested. Has anyone passed this information along to ATT/Yahoo/India 
or anyone at ATT or Yahoo who understands what is going on?

Jay 
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Re: Subject: Re: Problem with email

2012-03-11 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Philip Chee wrote:


On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 15:14:20 -0400, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Now why on Earth would ATT/Yahoo give a $#!+ about that? Are they
inspecting your message content before approving or rejecting
it???


Short answer: yes. Slightly longer answer: Their anti-spam filters
went bonkers.


Well, as someone else has pointed out, "it's time to leave." This level 
of incompetence is not acceptable. I'm glad I got out years ago.


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Re: Subject: Re: Problem with email

2012-03-11 Thread Ken

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ken wrote:

Pat Connors wrote:

First it came up and told me there was a problem, possibly abuse, and
to then contact the att.yahoo.whatever administrator.


I had the same problem yesterday. I get my mail ATT > Yahoo > SeaMonkey
I went into the mail set up and set all outgoing mail to text and the
problem disappeared.



I just ran across some comments from users of Thunderbird and their fix
worked on SeaMonkey as well.

"Thunderbird has the "msgcompose.background_color" set to uppercase
#FF however if you want to change the background color in your
message manually, Thunderbird offers you the colors in lowercase hex
code.

It would seem that Thunderbird changed the color code to uppercase for
the default template (i.e. "msgcompose.background_color") but left the
manual color code options in lowercase."

I entered "about:config" in the URL bar for SeaMonkey and edited the
line "msgcompose.background_color" line to #ff and everything worked.


Now why on Earth would ATT/Yahoo give a $#!+ about that? Are they
inspecting your message content before approving or rejecting it???

	I don't pretend to understand why it worked, it just did.  If someone 
told me to kill a chicken in my backyard in order to solve the problem, 
and it worked, I would still be grateful for the suggestion.  You guys 
know a lot more about this topic than I will ever know.

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Re: Subject: Re: Problem with email

2012-03-11 Thread Philip Chee
On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 15:14:20 -0400, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

> Now why on Earth would ATT/Yahoo give a $#!+ about that? Are they 
> inspecting your message content before approving or rejecting it???
Short answer: yes.
Slightly longer answer: Their anti-spam filters went bonkers.

Phil

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Re: Subject: Re: Problem with email

2012-03-11 Thread cmcadams

cmcadams wrote:

Ken wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Ken wrote:

Lisa Wiser wrote:

Ken wrote:

I just ran across some comments from users of Thunderbird and their
fix worked on SeaMonkey as well.

"Thunderbird has the "msgcompose.background_color" set to uppercase
#FF however if you want to change the background color in your
message manually, Thunderbird offers you the colors in lowercase hex
code.

It would seem that Thunderbird changed the color code to uppercase for
the default template (i.e. "msgcompose.background_color") but left the
manual color code options in lowercase."

I entered "about:config" in the URL bar for SeaMonkey and edited the
line "msgcompose.background_color" line to #ff and everything
worked.
___


How do I go about editing that line? I've found it, just don't know how
to change it.

Thanks.

Do a search for #FF. Highlight the line and right-click on it. One
of the choices
is Modify. Highlight the uppercase F's and delete them. Replace with
six lowercase f"s.


Just tried it in SM 2.7.2, didn't help.


That is the same version I am using. Are sure you modified the correct line??


Fixed that, see above. Thank you kindly for that solution. . .


Above, below...(dammit).
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Re: Subject: Re: Problem with email

2012-03-11 Thread cmcadams

Ken wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Ken wrote:

Lisa Wiser wrote:

Ken wrote:

I just ran across some comments from users of Thunderbird and their
fix worked on SeaMonkey as well.

"Thunderbird has the "msgcompose.background_color" set to uppercase
#FF however if you want to change the background color in your
message manually, Thunderbird offers you the colors in lowercase hex
code.

It would seem that Thunderbird changed the color code to uppercase for
the default template (i.e. "msgcompose.background_color") but left the
manual color code options in lowercase."

I entered "about:config" in the URL bar for SeaMonkey and edited the
line "msgcompose.background_color" line to #ff and everything
worked.
___


How do I go about editing that line? I've found it, just don't know how
to change it.

Thanks.

Do a search for #FF. Highlight the line and right-click on it. One
of the choices
is Modify. Highlight the uppercase F's and delete them. Replace with
six lowercase f"s.


Just tried it in SM 2.7.2, didn't help.


That is the same version I am using. Are sure you modified the correct line??


Fixed that, see above. Thank you kindly for that solution. . .
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Re: Subject: Re: Problem with email

2012-03-11 Thread cmcadams

cmcadams wrote:

Ken wrote:

Lisa Wiser wrote:

Ken wrote:

I just ran across some comments from users of Thunderbird and their
fix worked on SeaMonkey as well.

"Thunderbird has the "msgcompose.background_color" set to uppercase
#FF however if you want to change the background color in your
message manually, Thunderbird offers you the colors in lowercase hex
code.

It would seem that Thunderbird changed the color code to uppercase for
the default template (i.e. "msgcompose.background_color") but left the
manual color code options in lowercase."

I entered "about:config" in the URL bar for SeaMonkey and edited the
line "msgcompose.background_color" line to #ff and everything worked.
___


How do I go about editing that line? I've found it, just don't know how
to change it.

Thanks.

Do a search for #FF. Highlight the line and right-click on it. One of the 
choices
is Modify. Highlight the uppercase F's and delete them. Replace with six 
lowercase
f"s.


Just tried it in SM 2.7.2, didn't help.


WAIT!! Cancel the above. It does work. First trial was with an HTML email that I had 
in my Drafts folder (with the old #FF). New HTML emails with the #ff 
parameter did go through.

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Re: Subject: Re: Problem with email

2012-03-11 Thread Ken

cmcadams wrote:

Ken wrote:

Lisa Wiser wrote:

Ken wrote:

I just ran across some comments from users of Thunderbird and their
fix worked on SeaMonkey as well.

"Thunderbird has the "msgcompose.background_color" set to uppercase
#FF however if you want to change the background color in your
message manually, Thunderbird offers you the colors in lowercase hex
code.

It would seem that Thunderbird changed the color code to uppercase for
the default template (i.e. "msgcompose.background_color") but left the
manual color code options in lowercase."

I entered "about:config" in the URL bar for SeaMonkey and edited the
line "msgcompose.background_color" line to #ff and everything
worked.
___


How do I go about editing that line? I've found it, just don't know how
to change it.

Thanks.

Do a search for #FF. Highlight the line and right-click on it. One
of the choices
is Modify. Highlight the uppercase F's and delete them. Replace with
six lowercase f"s.


Just tried it in SM 2.7.2, didn't help.


	That is the same version I am using.  Are sure you modified the correct 
line??

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Re: Subject: Re: Problem with email

2012-03-11 Thread cmcadams

Ken wrote:

Lisa Wiser wrote:

Ken wrote:

I just ran across some comments from users of Thunderbird and their
fix worked on SeaMonkey as well.

"Thunderbird has the "msgcompose.background_color" set to uppercase
#FF however if you want to change the background color in your
message manually, Thunderbird offers you the colors in lowercase hex
code.

It would seem that Thunderbird changed the color code to uppercase for
the default template (i.e. "msgcompose.background_color") but left the
manual color code options in lowercase."

I entered "about:config" in the URL bar for SeaMonkey and edited the
line "msgcompose.background_color" line to #ff and everything worked.
___


How do I go about editing that line? I've found it, just don't know how
to change it.

Thanks.

Do a search for #FF. Highlight the line and right-click on it. One of the 
choices
is Modify. Highlight the uppercase F's and delete them. Replace with six lowercase 
f"s.


Just tried it in SM 2.7.2, didn't help.
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Re: Subject: Re: Problem with email

2012-03-11 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Ken wrote:

Pat Connors wrote:

First it came up and told me there was a problem, possibly abuse, and
to then contact the att.yahoo.whatever administrator.


I had the same problem yesterday. I get my mail ATT > Yahoo > SeaMonkey
I went into the mail set up and set all outgoing mail to text and the
problem disappeared.



I just ran across some comments from users of Thunderbird and their fix
worked on SeaMonkey as well.

"Thunderbird has the "msgcompose.background_color" set to uppercase
#FF however if you want to change the background color in your
message manually, Thunderbird offers you the colors in lowercase hex code.

It would seem that Thunderbird changed the color code to uppercase for
the default template (i.e. "msgcompose.background_color") but left the
manual color code options in lowercase."

I entered "about:config" in the URL bar for SeaMonkey and edited the
line "msgcompose.background_color" line to #ff and everything worked.


Now why on Earth would ATT/Yahoo give a $#!+ about that? Are they 
inspecting your message content before approving or rejecting it???


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Re: ATT email problem

2012-03-11 Thread cmcadams

It's now 2:10p CDT, here, and no change. I confirm

* text email still works
* text email with graphic attachments work
* HTML email WITHOUT graphics work
* HTML email WITH graphics are still bombing

This is in SM 2.7.2.

I've learned to never expect anything effective from AT&T phone support. I invested 
in an external dial-up modem on eBay for those times when DSL dies, so that I 
wouldn't have to talk to India ever again, but that's no help today.



And they think it's ONLY Thunderbird.


Perhaps when (if) they fix it for Thunderbird, it'll work for us.



Lisa Wiser wrote:

Well, it's now 10am EDT and I just got off the phone with AT&T support.

They still are clueless. And the young tech I talked with wasn't aware we COULD 
send
text version. And they think it's ONLY Thunderbird. I don't know if Thunderbird 
had
any changes on Friday but I do not believe SeaMonkey did and that's what I use. 
So it
would seem obvious AT&T/Yahoo has put in some "upgrade" they didn't properly 
test.

Lisa

cmcadams wrote:

Jay O'Brien wrote:

The ATT problem has also affected me. However, I found that I can still send 
plain
text emails, but html emails are rejected.

Interesting.

Jay O'Brien


Likewise, EXCEPT that I was able to send a text-only HTML email to myself.
Including images of any sort triggers the error.
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Re: Subject: Re: Problem with email

2012-03-11 Thread Ken

Lisa Wiser wrote:

Ken wrote:

I just ran across some comments from users of Thunderbird and their
fix worked on SeaMonkey as well.

"Thunderbird has the "msgcompose.background_color" set to uppercase
#FF however if you want to change the background color in your
message manually, Thunderbird offers you the colors in lowercase hex
code.

It would seem that Thunderbird changed the color code to uppercase for
the default template (i.e. "msgcompose.background_color") but left the
manual color code options in lowercase."

I entered "about:config" in the URL bar for SeaMonkey and edited the
line "msgcompose.background_color" line to #ff and everything worked.
___


How do I go about editing that line? I've found it, just don't know how
to change it.

Thanks.
Do a search for #FF.  Highlight the line and right-click on it.  One 
of the choices is Modify.  Highlight the uppercase F's and delete them. 
 Replace with six lowercase f"s.

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Re: Subject: Re: Problem with email

2012-03-11 Thread Lisa Wiser

Ken wrote:
I just ran across some comments from users of Thunderbird and their 
fix worked on SeaMonkey as well.


"Thunderbird has the "msgcompose.background_color" set to uppercase 
#FF however if you want to change the background color in your 
message manually, Thunderbird offers you the colors in lowercase hex 
code.


It would seem that Thunderbird changed the color code to uppercase for 
the default template (i.e. "msgcompose.background_color") but left the 
manual color code options in lowercase."


I entered "about:config" in the URL bar for SeaMonkey and edited the 
line "msgcompose.background_color" line to #ff and everything worked.

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How do I go about editing that line? I've found it, just don't know how 
to change it.


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Re: Subject: Re: Problem with email

2012-03-11 Thread Ken

Pat Connors wrote:

First it came up and told me there was a problem, possibly abuse, and
to then contact the att.yahoo.whatever administrator.


I had the same problem yesterday. I get my mail ATT > Yahoo > SeaMonkey
I went into the mail set up and set all outgoing mail to text and the
problem disappeared.



I just ran across some comments from users of Thunderbird and their fix 
worked on SeaMonkey as well.


"Thunderbird has the "msgcompose.background_color" set to uppercase 
#FF however if you want to change the background color in your 
message manually, Thunderbird offers you the colors in lowercase hex code.


It would seem that Thunderbird changed the color code to uppercase for 
the default template (i.e. "msgcompose.background_color") but left the 
manual color code options in lowercase."


I entered "about:config" in the URL bar for SeaMonkey and edited the 
line "msgcompose.background_color" line to #ff and everything worked.

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Subject: Re: Problem with email

2012-03-11 Thread Pat Connors

First it came up and told me there was a problem, possibly abuse, and to then 
contact the att.yahoo.whatever administrator.


I had the same problem yesterday.  I get my mail 
ATT > Yahoo > SeaMonkey
I went into the mail set up and set all outgoing 
mail to text and the problem disappeared.


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Re: ATT email problem

2012-03-11 Thread Lisa Wiser

Well, it's now 10am EDT and I just got off the phone with AT&T support.

They still are clueless. And the young tech I talked with wasn't aware 
we COULD send text version. And they think it's ONLY Thunderbird. I 
don't know if Thunderbird had any changes on Friday but I do not believe 
SeaMonkey did and that's what I use. So it would seem obvious AT&T/Yahoo 
has put in some "upgrade" they didn't properly test.


Lisa

cmcadams wrote:

Jay O'Brien wrote:
The ATT problem has also affected me. However, I found that I can 
still send plain text emails, but html emails are rejected.


Interesting.

Jay O'Brien


Likewise, EXCEPT that I was able to send a text-only HTML email to 
myself. Including images of any sort triggers the error.

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Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing

2012-03-11 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Desiree wrote:

> As for copying to Word, I won't have Word on Win 7.

Good idea.  :-)

If you want an office suite, perhaps you would be happy with OpenOffice 
or LibreOffice. Both are full suites like Microsoft Office, but free. 
They are also (just about) fully compatible with Word/Excel ...

http://www.openoffice.org/
http://www.libreoffice.org/

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Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing

2012-03-11 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Desiree wrote:

> Thanks. I always have email set to show all headers as a routine
> security measure.

Here's a suggestion:  set your View Headers > Normal so your display, and 
your printing, won't show all those lines, but when you want to "check 
the security" of the email while viewing it, press Control-U to view 
source, then when satisfied, press Control-W to close the source window.

> I just didn't realize it would print all of that (23
> lines of headers). I'll have to try to remember to switch to "normal"
> for headers before printing and then switch back to "all".

It prints what is showing...

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Re: Migration switch won't invoke

2012-03-11 Thread Daniel

Dan C wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Dan C wrote:

Philip TAYLOR wrote:



Philipp van Hüllen wrote:


Hi Dan,

AFAIR, SM2.7.2 does not support ”upgrade" from SM1.1.14 any more.
Please try going via SM2.0.x in between.










I really do appreciate the responses. But I do not know what to do with
this information; I know how to fill a gas tank but don't know how to
change its octane.

Is there a work-around? How do I move this profile to 2.7.2?

Dan


As Philipp (note two p's) suggested above, install SM 2.0.x (along
side SM 1.1.14) and let it do the profile conversion, then install SM
2.7.2 over the top of SM 2.0.x.



I am sorry that I was so dense, and that I did not read carefully.

Got it.

Thanks,

Dan


Hey!! Happens to all of us sometimes!

Hope you're up and running, now!

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Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing

2012-03-11 Thread Ray_Net

Desiree wrote, On 11/03/2012 08:53:

"question"  wrote in message
news:l-qdnuc4vu47kshsnz2dnuvz_rqdn...@mozilla.org...

Desiree wrote:

How do I stop the printing of all the ridiculous headers that take up
ALMOST
ONE PAGE and are printed in BOLD TEXT thus wasting ink?

Why does SM Mail print all that junk? Besides all the irrelevant headers,
it
also printed ALMOST THE ENTIRE MESSAGE OF THREE PAGES in BOLD wasting
even
more ink!

I just needed a record of my reservation. I didn't need all the other
junk
printed nor did I need any of it in bold text.  OE would never waste ink
like this or print almost an entire page of irrelevant headers.

I removed this email address from OE long ago (and meant to completely
kill
it), but I never did and sometimes I get relevant mail in it. SM still
has
it so that is why I didn't print from OE. This is probably the first
email I
have ever printed from SM as I rarely need to print emails.



Copy The Email and Then paste it into WORD .

That's a good idea. But my point is that I don't need to do that if I use
OE. One of the reasons I started using SM again is because it has an email
client and I will be getting a new computer soon with Win 7. The only way to
continue using OE then will be via XP inside Win 7 Professional. So, I have
been looking for a new email client. I would use Windows Mail reluctantly
because it doesn't have Identities which is the best thing about OE but
Windows Mail is not in Win 7 and I will NOT use any cloud junk. I've used
Mozilla mail before it was SM but always had OE as my default mail client.
As for copying to Word, I won't have Word on Win 7.



I just have the words; Subject, From, Date, To  in bold.
ALL the rest are simple pure characters wasting no INK as you said with SM.

Perhaps the guy who wrote the mail, put all his text in BOLD !!! SM is 
not responsible to print what he see on the screen.

If so, please modify SM to have ALL your emails in *PLAIN-TEXT* mode !
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Re: SeaMonkey email headers when printing

2012-03-11 Thread Desiree

"Chris Ilias"  wrote in message 
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> On 12-03-10 4:56 AM, _Desiree_ spoke thusly:
>> How do I stop the printing of all the ridiculous headers that take up 
>> ALMOST
>> ONE PAGE and are printed in BOLD TEXT thus wasting ink?
>
> How many headers get printed is dependant on your setting in 
> View-->Headers. If you're using an extension like Mnenhy, the custom 
> headers function is based on all headers view. You need to set it to 
> Normal.
> For more info, see .
>
> -- 
> Chris Ilias 
> Newsgroup moderator

Thanks. I always have email set to show all headers as a routine security 
measure. I just didn't realize it would print all of that (23 lines of 
headers). I'll have to try to remember to switch to "normal" for headers 
before printing and then switch back to "all". 


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